define stable 
#general
warm anchor
novel horizon
of FAWE
limber knotBOT
at least WorldEdit is now GPL
mental meadow
FAWE doesnt have a premium version
heady spear
FAWE doesn't have a premium version wtf
novel horizon
Well, stable as "you could use it for production servers"
mental meadow
and no
worn ember
just use WE tbh
novel horizon
It does not 😮 Oh my
mighty storm
mfw all the plugins ive bought are closed source 😔
heady spear
y'all keep talking out of your asses lmao
warm anchor
WE is enough what are you editing that need speed 
sharp sentinel
All I know is WE gets a lot of reports about bugs in forks, I won't comment on their stability tho - Only negative thing I'll say about them is that AWE breaks the GPL :^)
worn ember
shut up city, its only a matter of time
novel horizon
My bad 🤦♂️
ashen cliff
//regen
worn ember
we know what happend to P²
sharp sentinel
WE is also significantly faster than AWE lol
heady spear
Also "it has bugs", "what are the bugs?" "I don't care n won't tell u lmao hahah losers"
perfect attitude
thx
limber knotBOT
Me4502: does AWE contain any recent WE code? they claim that they only use modified LGPL WE code
heady spear
plotsquared is open sourced and thriving
worn ember
city ur plugins bad but im not telling whats bad about it
sharp sentinel
There is no LGPL WE code
novel horizon
Yeah, how do you edit dozens of millions of blocks though with WE and not crashing server etc
heady spear
AWE also randomly injects shit which isn't compatible with the WE API
sharp sentinel
I can do 100 mill blocks in WE within 20 seconds easy
mental meadow
you dont crash it
warm anchor
run it on non potato 
limber knotBOT
then why do they have that in their license?!?
sharp sentinel
WE will never crash a server anyway
warm anchor
^^^
heady spear
so that shit that relies on the WE API breaks
mental meadow
Timing out != crash
mighty storm
crash no, freeze/stall maybe
just set watchdog to a few hours and go take a nap and itll be good ezpz
worn ember
WE wont, the watchdog will
novel horizon
Yeah, sorry, it might crash sometimes, but that's in extreme conditions, true
limber knotBOT
uhm, WE clearly was LGPL: https://github.com/EngineHub/WorldEdit/commit/f2ce020da059718e34342c149172944dfd02b775#diff-61e0bdf7e1b43c5c93d9488b22e04170
sharp sentinel
It'll only crash if there's an MC bug
sharp sentinel
Like the MC stuck chunk bugs. But that'll crash just by vanilla gameplay too
novel horizon
Yeah
sharp sentinel
Nah, WE wasn't LGPL, that's not what that commit means
limber knotBOT
that commit changes the license from LGPL to GPL?
sharp sentinel
It was somewhat complex
The project itself was licensed under GPL, but if you contribute you agree to license your contribution under both LGPL and GPL
We scrapped the old LGPL part as it was no longer necessary
limber knotBOT
I see
viral hornet
What's really important is that http://www.sk89q.com doesn't even resolve 😦
worn ember
spigot drama generator: Phoenix616 states WorldEdit is LGPL, Me4502 rages
sharp sentinel
WorldEdit was LGPL for 1 month in 2011
quasi valley
not https
sharp sentinel
sk's machine died years back
limber knotBOT
I mean they might just use 2011 code then ;D
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
(AWE)
worn ember
is SK still alive?
sharp sentinel
Yeah
worn ember
like do you still have contact with him?
heady spear
also sb_prime has a fun tendency to blame AWE issues on everyone but himself
sharp sentinel
I do, every so often yeah
worn ember
i miss that dude, he made the best plugins
mighty storm
sksksk
sharp sentinel
If you look at the old file here, you'll see that it was only contributions that were licensed as LGPL
Further down it talks about the project being GPL itself
limber knotBOT
yes, I get that now
sharp sentinel
Yeah was just trying to find an actual citation so that it wasn't just me saying stuff
heady spear
wow almost if one of the WE maintainers knows more about the WE code base
amazing stuff
worn ember
https://i.imgur.com/yaCTuC3.gif minecraft AI is very advanced
quasi valley
he's just dancing ded
ashen cliff
Mad lad using outdated Vault.
vestal jasper
nah he's bowing before ded's greatness
ashen cliff
Also nice to know that just saying FAWE can start a war.
heady spear
If people spent the time they spend complaining about FAWE, reporting bugs and/or contributing
then like
there wouldn't be a lot to complain about
assholes.
golden gust
You mean
next frost
True
golden gust
any time left to complain?
worn ember
if you spent the time here complaining about people complaining about fawe and actually fixed it smh
vestal jasper
complaining is more fun.
next frost
The only problem is the code base lol
heady spear
I don't work on FAWE you asshat
worn ember
i dont either
golden gust
Who does?
vestal jasper
ok
heady spear
I just see their suffering
vestal jasper
that's a good question, cat :^)
quasi valley
city you've pulled out the sass again
heady spear
aurora and SirYwell 😛
and dordsor n matt when they are not busy having lives
and then notmyfault does things
worn ember
its not his fault tho
sharp sentinel
Every time I look at the FAWE codebase I just see how much extra bloat there is from Jesse that doesn't need to be there as it's literally duplicating WE classes 😛
vestal jasper
what happened to iron
next frost
I‘m trying to keep to WE code and not touching the FAWE internals
vestal jasper
@lean gale how dare you have a life
worn ember
WE is too big brain for me
sharp sentinel
Please don't randomly ping people
heady spear
I stick to PlotSquared as our code base is significantly less insane
worn ember
worn ember
lmfao
heady spear
I'm excited to get p2 v6 out there so I can look at hyperverse for 2 seconds and then neglect it
sharp sentinel
I'm sure hyperverse is keen to get neglected
worn ember
Multiverse is the only true king
heady spear
hyperverse is a fun project, I just don't have enough energy/time/money to sink into it
viral hornet
city 😠
heady spear
every second I spend working on hyperverse is lost cash 😄
heady spear
have u reported it
viral hornet
yes right now
heady spear
I've muted the issue tracker
viral hornet
mental meadow
"I have an issue"
"Did you report it"
"Yeah i just told you about it"
heady spear
I need to finish my database fix PR lol
heady spear
https://github.com/Sauilitired/Hyperverse/pull/48 but I haven't had time and/or energy to work on this .-.
might get better now that my uni shit is sorted out
sharp sentinel
Y'all getting money thrown at you smh
mental meadow
please also throw some at me
viral hornet
matt you're too expensive 
mental meadow
I'll even do a happy dance
worn ember
reminds me i should actually start working on that quest plugin again
heady spear
We use youtrack ;D
viral hornet
I want to go to bed and do happy dances in my sleep
sharp sentinel
You know what would make FAWE more stable? 😛 If y'all contributed some stuff to WE so that you had less of a code diff :^)
heady spear
I wanna finish my command library tho
heady spear
I need to add some figures to my paper about k-ary trees for command parsing
so it looks sexier
twin lagoon
@mental meadow uwu
heady spear
and then write some actual code
vestal jasper
@minor badge uwu
twin lagoon
@minor badge uwu
minor badge
@vestal jasper uwu
mental meadow
uwu michael
twin lagoon
@vestal jasper uwu
minor badge
@twin lagoon uwu
twin lagoon
@viral hornet uwu
mental meadow
uwu proxi
viral hornet
I reported it for you city 😘
quasi valley
HOLY HELL
vestal jasper
@twin lagoon @mental meadow uwu
minor badge
@mental meadow uwu
viral hornet
@twin lagoon uwu
minor badge
@quasi valley uwu
quasi valley
mental meadow
uwu vicarious
twin lagoon
uwu @quasi valley
sharp sentinel
Pls stop uwu spam
minor badge
😔
mental meadow
.kneny
twin lagoon
😔
heady spear
ban everyone
limber knotBOT
heady spear
damn
mental meadow
idk have youtried with dyno?
heady spear
kashhhhhh
mental meadow
I can ban you 😛
viral hornet
brocc 
sharp sentinel
oof 😛
quasi valley
kash did the chad move of putting the pink role above everything else
sharp sentinel
But as I was saying pre-UwU... There's a lot of random stuff in FAWE that is unrelated to the async stuff 😛
golden gust
goes to get the ban shotgun
mental meadow
yeah
twin lagoon
well
mental meadow
I'd love to clean up someday
viral hornet
4 hours ago
mental meadow
but for that I would need to actually understand half of the stuff
viral hornet
twin lagoon
look i am busy man
twin lagoon
pls wait
viral hornet
you're cute too
next frost
Matthew I‘m currently mostly reimplementing stuff, some could be ported but other stuff is just very dumb implemented
twin lagoon
i know
viral hornet
🥺
vestal jasper
@viral hornet reported cmd alias issue to dev btw, said they'll look at it tonight
worn ember
this is unacceptable
sharp sentinel
Yeah fair - I'm planning on doing an overhaul of masks/patterns/tools/brushes at some point btw - make them most strictly parsed etc
mental meadow
You help us fix FAWE and in return we PR the cool brushes we have to WE 👀
viral hornet
Make them more like Voxel, Matt
sharp sentinel
When I looked at the FAWE brush system I didn't like it tho
heady spear
maaaaattttt matt matt add a way to check what blocks r included in a pattern plz
viral hornet
My Builder specifically said "If WorldEdit brushes were more like Voxel it would be a dream"
sharp sentinel
Porting the brushes are easy, it's the base brush system that I want to improve
what blocks are included in a pattern?
next frost
I‘m always interested in changes that make things easier
mental meadow
I would like to get //regen working again but it's a mess
mighty storm
//regen makes the terrain natural again right?
sharp sentinel
city i don't understand 
mental meadow
twin lagoon
chew uwu
vestal jasper
oh god that blue
twin lagoon
where's rory
heady spear
We needed a way to limit what blocks u can use in patterns and we came up with hell
mighty storm
idk sleeping probably, im in class rn ill find her later
vestal jasper
we need a way to limit what colours aurora is allowed to use for a background wtf
heady spear
heady spear
lel
sharp sentinel
It's kind of impossible to do that at the parser level though
heady spear
I know D:
next frost
That would also help with the WE disallowed blocks list
heady spear
but you're smart
sharp sentinel
Patterns inherently don't work like that
cedar spade
@mighty storm go to sleep
vestal jasper
@mighty storm go to sleep
mighty storm
i will after class
sharp sentinel
But that'd massively limit what patterns can do 😦
mighty storm
i cant sleep during class
cedar spade
yes you can
mighty storm
no
cedar spade
yes
heady spear
idc >:((((
sharp sentinel
If you want to limit what blocks a user can place, add an extent to the editsession
That should be done at set time rather than parse time
sharp sentinel
Depends where in the extent stack it happens
You could use the commit function IIRC to full on break the edit
worn ember
if i install jars locally on my jenkins build server, jenkins will use it right?
heady spear
@next frost that could work tho
mighty storm
das u
cunning badge
Anyone can recommend a good protocol lib source ? Im trying to create custom player mobs with a custom pathfinding AI
worn ember
you're pretty much on your own for that i think
next frost
Would be an idea yeah. Could be added to WE in general tho :p
twin lagoon
custom mobs 
lean gale
@vestal jasper ikr weird how little time u have for FAWE when u work minimum 40 hrs a week plus married
I've been dabbling in it a little lately though. I'm just super unhappy with it rn
vestal jasper
get a divorce, quit job, and work on fawe full time 
cunning badge
Yea I dont wanna rely on citizens bad performance so I gotta create my own player mobs using packets
heady spear
@next frost well our use case is kinda specific lol, but that'd be a nice v6 improvement uwu
lean gale
I'd like to see it go back to a wrapper and being codependent on WE instead of a fork
worn ember
heady spear
we should add a timeout to the command as well so that u can't spam it :3
sharp sentinel
Y'all being a wrapper would be significantly easier in terms of API breakages. Ideally though rather than wrapping classes they're written extensibly so you can just use actual API etc rather than classloader hacks for optimal stability
heady spear
A bit too late for that now though 👀
lean gale
It's honestly just demotivating constantly playing catchup with upstream lol
next frost
It’s never too late
lean gale
Back to work later nerds
next frost
The problem is that we‘re also changing code for command parsing for example
sharp sentinel
What command parsing code do you need to change?
Depending on what it is, it may be support-able. But ideally as little would be injected as possible for compatibility
heady spear
jesse had a list of things that he thought piston was missing
sharp sentinel
Piston is Pre-1.0, so stuff can be added
heady spear
so he probably added random stuff to FAWE rather than PRing to piston
zealous knot
sharp sentinel
Yeah based on FAWE code I'd imagine he just rewrote everything that already existed twice
viral hornet
that's awesome mister
vestal jasper
@zealous knot where how
mighty storm
as if discord genuinely supports that
heady spear
are u all having the gay rn
heady spear
disappointing, what would jesus think?
limber knotBOT
zealous knot
Well they raised more money for the cause than i will ever make at my job 
mighty storm
discord: "we support pride"
also discord: *conveniently forgets to add the trans flag when updating emojis*
not adding up
zealous knot
Discord use twmoji which is a 3rd party library by twitter
limber knotBOT
wait, they have to manually add emoji support instead of relying on the user's font?
mighty storm
yes, and twemoji had the trans flag for well over a year
heady spear
proclaiming allyship is easy but then actually doing shit requires real effort
mighty storm
And it's not like "new" emojis either, it's legit just 🏳️⚧️, emoji been around 5 years, unicode symbol 15
sharp sentinel
This is my list when I search trans
mighty storm
twemoji.parse already handles it
sharp sentinel
Good ol' ZWJ
vestal jasper
heady spear
th is zwj
sharp sentinel
mental meadow
i want that trans shark pls
mighty storm
Hmm, strange, #blacklivesmatter is no longer in the bottom left of settings
limber knotBOT
my system font doesn't render it properly :S
mental meadow
fix wasnt that sold out within 30 minutes?
heady spear
black lives only matter when it's trending on twitter
worn ember
i dont like those colors
sharp sentinel
Nah according to this page the trans flag emoji is its own unicode codepoint
worn ember
we already have 🚁 tho
sharp sentinel
Although another page says it is a ZWJ
heady spear
ded stop being bigot
sharp sentinel
Yeah dark no attack helicopter jokes please
zealous knot
No it took a few days for it to be sold out
worn ember
mighty storm
mfw people still dont realize helicopter jokes are transphobic 😔
worn ember
but city saying black lifes dont matter isnt a violation ktnx
worn ember
sharp sentinel
City was making a reference to the way people treat something
You were making a transphobic joke
limber knotBOT
don't worry, humans matter to your bot overloards
sly fog
Looks like kacperleague9 is going around spam one-star reviewing a few plugins
worn ember
ok this is actually stupid lmao
limber knotBOT
"downvoting" wat
next frost
FAWE has the special patterns/masks that take arguments like the #simplex[scale][pattern] thingy and that breaks really fast with WE
zealous knot
@mental meadow I didn’t check my email too often so I didn’t know the donation campaign started until a few days after the fact, and i was still able to get it
mighty storm
@sly fog just report and move on i guess
mental meadow
lol
sharp sentinel
SirYwell - That should work fine within commands? We do the same for block parsing already (blockstates etc)
sly fog
Can't exactly report other people's review on plugins (like PlaceholderAPI)
zealous knot
I think they raised like 65 thousand dollars in the end
mighty storm
report the user though, link all the spam reviews
theyll likely nuke the whole account
zealous knot
Lombok
next frost
yeah but FAWE allows nesting, you can do #simplex[10][#simplex[5][stone,dirt],#simplex[5][diorite,andesite]] or whatever but WE splits on every ,
mental meadow
yeah but they were sold out pretty fast afaik, I wanted to get one and they were gone
next frost
That changes wasn't that much tho
sharp sentinel
That sounds like an issue with the random pattern parser, rather than the command system
cedar spade
lombok more like vom-bok 🤮
mental meadow
yeah they were sold out within 2 hours
sharp sentinel
I really hate the random pattern parser and want to properly make the pattern parser nested and non-order-dependent
viral hornet
wow md
cedar spade
discord are you dum
mental meadow
Twitter
next frost
yeah that's not about piston or something like that
cedar spade
in other news, apparently colon * = kissing face
sharp sentinel
Realistically the random pattern parser should have a grammar of (int%[pattern])(,int%[pattern])*
twin lagoon
camm coreprotect 🥺
viral hornet
🥺
void void
😳
limber knotBOT
void void
i like vector graphics
next frost
Would be nice to have a grammar for that yeah
sharp sentinel
I want all the parsers to have a stricter grammar
void void
i used coreprotect once
next frost
Jesse also modified the RandomPattern a lot and I'm not sure what I should think about it
sharp sentinel
That's like the main part of the mask/pattern overhaul I want to do
void void
i messed everything up
next frost
WE allows 1%stone%awako currently iirc :p so yeah would be cool
sharp sentinel
A stricter grammar makes it safer for us to publicise that the WE API supports registering your own masks/patterns 😛
worn ember
masks save lives
viral hornet
How did you mess up coreprotect?
void void
who are the authors of coreprotect i want to tell them something
sharp sentinel
Intelli
heady spear
you may only talk to them if you have positive feedback
else you will be silenced
beware
cedar spade
^
void void
aight who wants to help with debugging
warm anchor
mighty storm
banned from r/admincraft
void void
are you one
worn ember
sounds familiar city lmao
warm anchor
Admincraft is a shitshow
void void
always been a shitshow
warm anchor
I like here better
heady spear
wdym dark
sharp sentinel
inserts always has been meme
mighty storm
👨🚀 
👨🚀
worn ember
you need to figure that one out yourself 
void void
anyway if you have free time & want to debug shit then i need help with this - https://github.com/lucko/LuckPerms/pull/2602
heady spear
have no idea
next frost
with the stricter grammar you could trick me into contributing to WE
worn ember
oh well, too bad then xD
sharp sentinel
Stricter grammar is probably what I'll do after asset system
heady spear
hannes shouldn't u be studying
sharp sentinel
Ughh actually I was gonna do fluids
mighty storm
what are you my english teacher
heady spear
smh
mighty storm
//set fire
next frost
I'm at the university right now and I'll watch lectures on youtube now
sharp sentinel
//replace city english_teacher
warm anchor
So you pay to watch a YouTube video? /s
heady spear
I fell asleep in the middle of my lecture on comparative planetology
mighty storm
question, how long would this take:
//pos1 -30000000,0,-30000000
//pos2 30000000,255,30000000
//set air
void void
ha just found out that lead of the core protect author is in this server
i just wanted to say
sharp sentinel
OutOfMemoryError
void void
nice plugin
heady spear
why would you lie to intelli
warm anchor
Won’t that throw you an error about selection too big ?
heady spear
that's not nice
next frost
lol we don't really pay for uni here
void void
xD
mental meadow
with FAWE it works pretty well :'p
cunning badge
Too bad the wrapperlib for protocol is not continued anymore
mighty storm
what if i give it 1 TB of ram
sharp sentinel
It'll only throw an error if you don't have limit override perms
heady spear
my astrophysics course is basically examined based on our review of youtube videos we get to select ourselves
heady spear
so I need to pick 11h worth of youtube videos and then review their scientific accuracy
mental meadow
let me test how long it takes chew 👀
mighty storm
sucks what exactly? and how do you know?
heady spear
I blocked brocc before he blocked me
waxen panther
Anything
heady spear
so
waxen panther
No you sent me a friend request yesterday so my block has more value
void void
🍩
heady spear
but also brocc i need suggestions for commands
waxen panther
Rejoin the other server
mighty storm
h
sharp sentinel
Lmao, to edit the entire world like that, it'd require 19 Exabytes of RAM
sharp sentinel
Due to how much memory MC chunks/blocks/etc take up
sharp sentinel
The world serialised to disk is significantly more compact than in memory
mighty storm
well it wont crash 👀
cedar spade
broccolai more like bloccolai
mighty storm
alright, how do i buy 19 exabytes of ram
warm anchor
Why buy them. Just download
mighty storm
oh right duh
cedar spade
chew out here asking big brain questions today
worn ember
no errors
also completely shits itself at runtime
cedar spade
it builds™️
worn ember
its a start at least xD
warm anchor
It works until it doesn’t
mighty storm
wheres the 
s
worn ember
i dont need signed commits smh
worn ember
i dont build on gh
mighty storm
ik, but jenkins can set build statuses
cedar spade
cash cheque > all other types of che(ck|que)
mighty storm
what is a che que
worn ember
that branch isnt validated
cedar spade
england
mighty storm
ah the bri ish
worn ember
hmm can i force push pr's on github? or do i need to get the almighty CLI?
<@&748618676189528155> ^
sharp sentinel
?ban @sly jacinth Advertising discord guilds
mighty storm
?ban 409455269341560832 fun ban (ads)
leaden oxideBOT
Noahb3410#4950 was banned | Advertising discord guilds
Noahb3410#4950 was banned | fun ban (ads)
mighty storm
ah ha
void void
advertising
sharp sentinel
double banned
void void
mod
olive garden
I was hoping you were trying to ban DED for asking stupid questions
mighty storm
thats double detention
worn ember
😦
worn ember
sadge
cedar spade
ded stop reporting urself smh
worn ember
lmao
heady spear
I ate an entire pint of ice cream and now my stomach hurts
worn ember
arent you lactose intolerant?
heady spear
nah milk just makes me feel not good
mighty storm
osu! for ios is such a different experience
void void
thats what it says on profile
sharp sentinel
It's public info but also weirdly odd to just randomly bring up?
heady spear
dox dox ban!!
sharp sentinel
Especially in a conversation that kash isn't a part of
mighty storm
what a power move
void void
if its public info then i thought it was ok to talk about but ok do as you wish
mighty storm
just because it's public info doesnt mean you just randomly bring it up in a convo
void void
i just started a conversation
viral hornet
just deny everything and move on
sharp sentinel
Camm, post to https://www.reddit.com/r/dontyouknowwhoiam/ 😛
worn ember
thats a fun subreddit
mighty storm
smh @quasi valley edited his message
void void
ewwwwww kenny did uwu
quasi valley
NO U
mighty storm
whats wrong with "U"
worn ember
the U part
quasi valley
@viral hornet HELLO COUMER
viral hornet
HOW ARE YOU KENNALD
quasi valley
I'M GOOD, YOU?
mighty storm
kneny u- oops
viral hornet
TIRED
quasi valley
GO SLEP
mighty storm
what time is it for u
viral hornet
12:50AM
drowsy urchin
Who is the main creator of paper?
mighty storm
it's nine:50 for me
quasi valley
not 9:fifty?
mighty storm
thats pm
limber knotBOT
it's 51 what are you guys smoking?
quasi valley
do people actually use that for pm am distinction lol
drowsy urchin
Oh ok
drowsy urchin
Like whos idea was it to actually fork spigot
next wind
whos the best though 🤔
mighty storm
oh, md_5 was https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/622229778428e822be7c97d9c5f08ddb6281d97f of course!
waxen panther
🦀 🦀 ecocity 🦀 🦀
limber knotBOT
back when paper was still named spigot 😆
void void
so md5 owns the repo?
waxen panther
wide chasm
md_5 doesn't own the repo
mighty storm
ah yes because contributing = owner
void void
it says initial commit
mighty storm
ye because its spigot
wide chasm
An initial commit also doesn't have to be made by the repo owner.
mighty storm
org repos dont have "owners"
void void
somebody must have created the PaperMC github repo
mighty storm
yes, likely a core team member
limber knotBOT
see, technically the github org has an owner
mighty storm
yes, the core team are owners
olive marlin
Wasn't it Z? Not 100% sure.
mighty storm
me neither, regardless, theyre all technically Org owners with Admin access
so, answer is vague unless someone who knows wants to clear it up lol
hmm
i checked my sub box and it was thre
oh we're picking another mob
next wind
oh nice
next wind
so some big updates to mc dungeons and a new mob for 1.17
topaz mortar
🍯 moo
olive marlin
@void void looks like Z made it, just as I remember : #general message
You need to scroll the convo a bit
mighty storm
clien tmodification spotted?
olive marlin
What?
olive marlin
I just did a normal search :p
mighty storm
forgot
ashen cliff
No questions, shoot on sight.
limber knotBOT
🔫
olive marlin
I remember Z saying it themselves a few weeks back, but couldn't find it.
heady spear
Give me switch game recommendations plz
quasi valley
there's like 3 switch games worth their 60€ price tag
mighty storm
bowser?
quasi valley
only its stupid weapon system
next wind
yeah i gave up on it
worn ember
anyone know where "Random_Teleport" comes from? its not the .iml file nor my POM
quasi valley
press alt+F6 when on the module, it'll rename it/the dir
mighty storm
not in plugin.yml either?
topaz mortar
You renamed it somehow.
quasi valley
or shift f6, forgot what of the two
worn ember
hmm odd
olive marlin
Maybe hidden IJ files?
worn ember
that fixed it tho, tnx kneny
my other modules just changed name when i changed the IML file
quasi valley
more accurate title would be "Bowser's furry", I was super confused when I saw bowser in a catcostume the first time lmao https://i.imgur.com/1seKNM4.png
mighty storm
bowser is a furry
worn ember
i bet chew is a furry too
heady spear
I’m waiting for gods & monsters .-.
quasi valley
worn ember
well lets see if that fixes the build on jenkins too, cuz it has no reason to fail anymore lol
quasi valley
chew literally chewy
next wind
quasi valley
hmm that's a good point
worn ember
you uwu all the time what
quasi valley
yeah I'm really proud of chew
worn ember
theres no fixing you
quasi valley
the entire direct is basically "give us more money for existing things, thanks"
green turret
There is a candy thing here called chokofant. It's these little chocolatey licorice tubes with a chocolate fudge kind of filling. They are incredibly good and highly underrated. Today I bought a handful of them, and they cost me a bit over 200 calories, but it was so worth it, holy crap.
worn ember
you pay in calories?
spare grotto
xd
worn ember
where do i sign up
green turret
Yes, I'm on a diet, so that's my currency.
worn ember
i see
green turret
I pay in calories in the sense that I have fewer calories to spend on dinner now.
green turret
Don't do it, all you will think about is chokofant
I did manage to drop around 9 kg over two months though! Almost at my target weight!
(like 19 freedom weight units)
next wind
wow nice
green turret
Kenny I made banana bread with dark chocolate chips a couple of weeks ago, it was very sinful but I managed to place it in front of my brother and brother-in-law, and they made quick work of it.
green turret
Well so one of my colleagues asked me if I had "changed shape" over the course of our lockdown... So I had to do something about it... Because I don't like him very much and I take things personally.
worn ember
bad
green turret
Target is 80, started around 90 (stupid snacking during lockdown). I'm at 81.9 this morning.
worn ember
kg?
green turret
Yep.
worn ember
thats not too bad
quasi valley
okay, nice 😄
worn ember
weighing a lot isnt a bad thing
green turret
I'm also 1.87 so it's sort of low for my height, but it's mostly bones and blubber, not a lot of muscle :P
worn ember
just gotta make sure its not all fat lol
green turret
Hahah yeah
olive marlin
How much do you excercise? And what's your daily kcal budget, if you don't mind sharing?
I also started around 90, down to 81.4 this morning after about 4 months.
green turret
Ohh very nice!
olive marlin
Though I'm a bit shorter, so I'm still in the overweight category rn.
green turret
I skip breakfast and aim for 1500 kcal per day, but I usually go a bit over.
void void
rip developer of lsw (lostskywars)
olive marlin
Yeah, I tried to make food myself, but had trouble calculating calories etc, so just decided to buy diet boxes, 1500kcal a day.
green turret
I go bouldering twice a week, but outside of that I don't get much exercise in. Some 1-hour walks in the woods while listening to audiobooks, but weather is turning sour so not so much recently :(
worn ember
do 20 pushups every time a build fails
limber knotBOT
just play beat saber 
olive marlin
I was doing 10-20 minutes HIIT excercises 3-4 times a week.
Yeah, I wish I had PC/VR to play beat Saber.
worn ember
do beatsaber outside with a stick
green turret
Yeah me too, hahah, I set up a calorie calculator sheet now, so it's a bit easier, but cooking definitely takes longer. I try to make big batches so I can freeze some. But I also have a bunch of ready meals from the frozen aisle :P
olive marlin
I want to buy it at some point, but not being able to play games makes it easier when I have work, school and personal projects to do lol
worn ember
i'm like 62kg and i only eat and drink fast food
olive marlin
I used to be that guy DED.
But last year I was for over a month in USA in delegation.
worn ember
tbh i do cycle to school almost every day which is 20 go and 20 back
so that helps a lot
20mins
i also used to run 10km weekly but that got boring
green turret
I found a donut place a bit from here. I think riding my bike there and back burns a bit fewer than the amount of calories in the donut itself, so it kinda evens out!
worn ember
just drive around the block a few extra times
green turret
Yeah I can't run well because of a bad knee, and I also think it's boring. I like bouldering. Highly recommend if you have access to a climbing gym.
worn ember
runners high is amazing tho
green turret
There's a surprising number of programmers there. I think it has something to do with the problem solving aspect of it and the fact that it's a solo sport.
worn ember
i've literally ran like 2hours non stop on the belt once cuz half of that time i was high as a kite
green turret
Damn :O
olive marlin
I don't really like bouldering, prefer climbing but to get to a decent climbing gym I'd need to travel for like 80 minutes or so, one way.
green turret
Oof
worn ember
hormones are weird lol
olive marlin
In the city it's mostly bouldering gyms and 5 meter high "climbing" gyms.
worn ember
i dont do well with heights so i prefer to stay on the ground
green turret
Brought my sisters one time and they are sickly afraid of heights, but they got used to it quickly. That's a plus with bouldering because it's usually not very high up, so most people will be comfortable with it once they pop the bubble. I only went lead climbing once, but I really liked that too. It's just a bit out of the way for me. Bouldering gym is 12 minutes walk from my apartment.
... for now. My upstairs neighbor is making me want to move.
Today the police woke me up. Knocked on my door and asked about him. I wish he would just go back to jail where he most likely came from :(
Instead of stomping on my damn ceiling.
And making the police wake me up...
worn ember
damn
limber knotBOT
is anyone here using SoYouStart and got it to auto-renew via paypal? I managed to do that with a Kimsufi server before but can't find how to do it with sys xD
mental meadow
yea phoenix, works fine for me
limber knotBOT
how did you get it to do that? all sys sends me are reminder emails to renew because it will run out in a month/2 weeks etc
with no option to tell it to just auto renew xD (even though I added paypal as a payment method in the web interface)
pretty sure with Kimsufi I had the option to tell it to auto renew via some link in an email
hm, I guess I'll just wait and see if it automatically pays it next month
they wont shut down servers for 7 days anyways xD
vestal jasper
@quasi valley pls send help
twin lagoon
@mental meadow 
vestal jasper
I went from facing bronze players, to facing silvers, golds, and now i'm facing mid plats.
vestal jasper
maybe
vestal jasper
ima be real with you I can't tell the difference between bronzes and golds
heady spear
my client keeps timing out when connecting to my local server wtf help
vestal jasper
plats I can tell a difference, but golds just feel like enhanced bronzes
quasi valley
lmao
vestal jasper
Also I've improved a fuckton the past week
quasi valley
maybe I'll actually try and get all placement matches next season
does it instantly start again, or do they have delays again
vestal jasper
Last week I struggled against silvers and now I'm consistently winning vs plats
is that you
mental meadow
@twin lagoon ❤️
quasi valley
I'll never be as handsome as him
quasi valley
zealous wedge
@mental meadow @minor badge @twin lagoon uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
vestal jasper
@quasi valley uwu papi
quasi valley
zealous wedge
not there yet
mental meadow
@zealous wedge uwu hope you have a good day ❤️
zealous wedge
aaa ty auwura
unkempt drift
its iCHILL
quasi valley
nouCHILL
ashen cliff
Cool looking VRM cooler, might even "cool" the NVMe/Chipset below the card.
next wind
whys that big x4 taking away space they could have put another ICHILL on
unkempt drift
is anyone buying this day 1?
ashen cliff
Day 670, after the first ones show up on eBay for a fair price.
ashen cliff
2000$ since they will be instantly bought up and upsold.
unkempt drift
right
next wind
how much is the 3080?
unkempt drift
starts at $700
vestal jasper
can't wait for the titan variant of it
next wind
wow thats a huge difference
vestal jasper
$3500 for a GPU LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
next wind
theres no titan
ashen cliff
5k GPU let's go.
next wind
i think
vestal jasper
considering 3090 is 1500, yeah makes sense
unkempt drift
im not seeing any prices from other vendors, asus, gigabyte, etc. maybe they haven't announced yet
unkempt drift
ah
ashen cliff
Imagine buying a Titan V 32Gb and now the RTX 3090 comes out flexing on you.
magic adder
The vendors didn't put a hand on it yet to do some overclocked versions.
Nvidia published some Founders Editions prices on their site. (I've the prices in €)
unkempt drift
yeah, thats the prices I was quoting there
the 1500,700 and I think 500 for 3070
thats in usd
magic adder
Yep got a little more due to taxes included in our price in € but it's like this.
But others vendors often remake a little the cards to custom with their brand or overclock them, the price will be a little higher.
unkempt drift
yep
magic adder
Especially if there are a huge demand for the cards
ashen cliff
0-50€ for the reference PCB with blower cooler,
100-150€ for the reference PCB with a better dual can cooler.
150€+ for custom PCB cards with better coolers.
magic adder
Coolers or led colors 😅
slim nymph
my friend said something about intel doesnt even have PCIE4 to support the 30xx yet lol? only amd does? i dont keep up with hardware stuff
warm anchor
I read the same
It’s probably best to wait and see how it goes on launch day before making a purchase lol
unkempt drift
anyone know a good way to run two instances of firefox? with separate cookies/local storage, etc? basically I want to be signed into two accounts for the same app at once
and I can't seem to figure out a good way to do that
tulip inlet
privacy container extension
lets you choose a profile when you right click the new tab button
unkempt drift
tulip inlet
yep
unkempt drift
perfect, thanks
worn ember
what are you doing 
unkempt drift
working on hangar
and rn im testing out project/org invite
so I need to have multiple accounts up and running at the same time
left swift
quasi valley
oh the invite stuff always looked scary to me
unkempt drift
yeah, its one of those more scary things
quasi valley
but also one of the last major things, so that's that :p
void void
yeah sure il do the dishes too
unkempt drift
who made the paper logo?
mental meadow
hey
quasi valley
aurora, your, uhm, masterpiece is just, uhh, too good for Hangar to use, you know?
mental meadow
first of all #hangar-dev
and thats my logo >:C
unkempt drift
yes, what kenny said. its too good 🙂
mental meadow
It's not even paint, like it's actually proper svg and stuff
void void
is that a paper taco
worn ember
i'd honestly have no idea what to make for a logo that represents "hangar"
quasi valley
the sad thing about the paper logo is this btw: https://fontawesome.com/icons/paper-plane?style=solid
unkempt drift
a paper airplane rolling out of a hangar
mental meadow
that's why I went for the airplane in a hangar joke
worn ember
yeah good luck making that look decent
mental meadow
honestly I don't think my idea is that bad if someone with actual skills designed it
void void
just maybe symetrical lines and shapes
grave oxide
but isnt hanger part of paper instead of paper part of hanger? 🤔
quasi valley
worn ember
you could do some stuff with the word maybe thats the only way i can see anything decent coming out of it lol cuz a plane in a hangar just doesnt seem like a good logo design imo lol
mental meadow
hangar is the hangar from where the paper airplane launches to drop bombs on spigot
worn ember
calm down there miss
quasi valley
that's the austrian talking
unkempt drift
that'd be a funny easter egg. have some bombs in the hangar that say For: Spigot
warm anchor
Why would you bomb someone that’s already inferior than you
worn ember
2 mins later special forces knocking on mini's door
just be like russia and poison them
tired heath
Is not Austrian talking, is Aurora talking.
void void
bukkit
mental meadow
what?
void void
does md_5 even work on the ./reload cmd anymore
true canyon
What does that question even mean? What would there be to do about that command other than let it sit there since it was written?
quasi valley
I'm sure he spent the last 5 years perfecting the reload command call towards some server method
void void
you know because reload command has to let old references go
vestal jasper
There's no way to fix the reload command
void void
work might need to be done to make sure it works
vestal jasper
It's issues are mostly Java / JVM issues
Most the other issues come down to plugin support
slim nymph
the reload command isnt broken, its plugins that are broken/badly designed
reload works perfect for proper plugins, i have no issues with it in dev 🙂
mental meadow
to be fair most devs don't care about /reload
slim nymph
the biggest thing devs screw up with reload support is not handling the fact that world state / player state may already exist at plugin enable, and to 'reinitialize' anything they may of done in player join event for example
I just refire my player join event stuff during reload
and fire entity add to world for all existing entities
slim nymph
and chunk load event for all chunks
mental meadow
void onReload(ReloadEvent event) {
getLogger().info("I see you reloaded, lemme help you with that.");
Bukkit.shutdown();
}
still my greatest creation
slim nymph
i dont reload in prod because it just doesnt serve a purpose, not compat with my deployment style, but in dev, we reload to get new jars
mental meadow
no proxi you are your greatest creation
drowsy urchin
There’s a reload event? I just see if any players are online then I run a function to get player data again. Oh never mind
minor badge
we all make ourselves
minor badge
it is my fault that im a paper member, just as it is my fault that i like lasagne
quasi valley
ah yes, coming back to philosophy and (non-)determination
tired heath
Na actually that is not true
worn ember
bruh lasagna is the best
mental meadow
it's proxis fault that shes cute, it's knenys fault that he doesnt like uwus and needs .kneny
worn ember
i eat it every thursday
minor badge
i believe you mean determinism, kneny
true canyon
reload works perfect for proper plugins
IIRC plugins using ebeans couldn't be reloaded properly (though one could argue using ebeans makes you not a proper plugin 😄 )
waxen panther
@quasi valley wheres that emote from
stiff yarrow
my GF has been using discord lately and her nickname is yessr50 and I think that's wholesome af 😊
waxen panther
tell them to remove the background so i can steal it
stiff yarrow
IIRC plugins using ebeans couldn't be reloaded properly (though one could argue using ebeans makes you not a proper plugin 😄 )
@true canyon what the heck is ebeans?
quasi valley
from "The Rice Opinion"
true canyon
ebean is an ORM, nossr 😄
tired heath
it is my fault that im a paper member, just as it is my fault that i like lasagne
In fact, a lot depends on your disposition, upbringing, circumstances and possibilities. The whole environment that shapes you. The completley same persion what would grow up in a diffrent environment would also be a diffrent person. And only on top of that is what you call "makring yourself" based on the actual possibilities left over. Sorry not sorry
^^
waxen panther
is that TRO's guild or just a coincidence?
quasi valley
yeah that's TRO 
my stance is just that saying "I, and ONLY I, made myself" is pretty ignorant, but that obviously doesn't mean it's only your environment making you
ah yes @waxen panther, the bot-spam channel of course 😂
tired heath
I don't know what TRO is but I also did'nt say that only the enviroment shapes you
quasi valley
you little chicken
quasi valley
I just threw my opinion in there, no counter or whatever towards yours
tired heath
Did'nt felt like a counter or something
Same, just opinion
I just want to reduce my emoji use to look less Boomer
quasi valley
you should start writing less zoomer first
tired heath
Well, is hard
zealous wedge
ugh why did I call the handler annotation EventHandler, that's too many words :(
one-word annotations are better
fervent kite
is it possible for members on my server to discover the seed without me telling them?
fervent kite
how would they go about doing it?
wide chasm
I know there's a fabric mod available, you just install that and it'll tell you the seed when it has found it.
fervent kite
i came across one of the players bases where they had exposed a large area of bedrock
can you use bedrock to discover a seed?
wide chasm
I think that fabric mod needs more, so not that I know of
stiff yarrow
my stance is just that saying "I, and ONLY I, made myself" is pretty ignorant, but that obviously doesn't mean it's only your environment making you
@quasi valley childhood development has a YUGE impact on who you are, trust me I got like a decade of therapy working to erase those traumas
wide chasm
I think nether ceiling bedrock also was the same for all seeds, but that may have changed and may not be the same in the overworld.
worn ember
seeds are easy to be determined
fervent kite
how darkeye
stiff yarrow
ugh why did I call the handler annotation EventHandler, that's too many words :(
@zealous wedge its Java embrace the verbosity
wide chasm
I think that's location.
worn ember
yeah nvm then
wide chasm
But with enough bruteforcing, you can really figure out the seed with just a small amount of information.
worn ember
i bet you use kotlin
zealous wedge
I do lol
worn ember
smh
quasi valley
stiff yarrow
But with enough bruteforcing, you can really figure out the seed with just a small amount of information.
@wide chasm like that recent "we found the minecraft splash seed!" post on reddit
zealous wedge
:nokneny:
worn ember
you can spot the kotlin users miles away
stiff yarrow
which things in world gen aren't seed dependent, trees? or are they seed based too
worn ember
foliage arent i think
wide chasm
Pretty much everything I think
fervent kite
what should i do if one of my players got the seed without me telling them?