yes, the new one will be the same price
#general
dense kindle
void void
RIP.
digital peak
gtx?
dense kindle
i have to see the difference between the 3080 and 90 because last time the 2080ti and the titan were like 10% appart
waxen panther
Probably going to get a 3080 personally
chrome quest
How many plugins is too many plugins?
mossy vessel
1
chrome quest
1?
tired heath
3.50
mossy vessel
Yes, 1
chrome quest
I have 19.
tired heath
ooo nooooo
mossy vessel
Then you have 18 too much
chrome quest
Oh no.
tired heath
Did you backup your /tmp folder on the server?
18 plugins man, do a backup before Apocalypse
waxen panther
depends
chrome quest
My server backs up every 2 hours.
tired heath
The answer is just: "No answer possible"; since it depends on the operations your plugin consumes per tick and how many operations your server can handle per tick
chrome quest
As in a backup is made every 2 hours of my server folder.
tired heath
Backing up tmp was a joke
chrome quest
I don’t even use that folder.
chrome quest
Linux.
tired heath
Look at my answer above
chrome quest
You said I do unless it’s not windows, and existing doesn’t mean using.
tired heath
The answer is just: "No answer possible"; since it depends on the operations your plugin consumes per tick and how many operations your server can handle per tick
chrome quest
Oh that.
tired heath
.g tmp folder
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
chrome quest
Cute.
strange crystal
Giu trading plugin that works in 1.16.2
mighty storm
probbaly
limber knotBOT
depends
lost thicket
https://i.imgur.com/09hQxrX.gifv
@twin lagoon thank you michael, i appreciate this. It really helps
void void
what happens if you hot swap region .mca files in the world folder while the server is running?
potent fossil
uh
probably will be overwritten on next world save unless you turn off saving
but...overall not a good idea
just stop your server plz
latent valve
it should work just fine ig 
aslong those chunk region file isnt gettign access 
limber knotBOT
yeah, if only one chunk is held in memory then it will overwrite on next save
potent fossil
if you break your world because of that, dont come crying to paper because it'd be entirely your fault
much better to just do it while the server is off.
limber knotBOT
or the world unloaded ;)
tired heath
Well that's what I would guess, if the files content is not in memory/use it will do nothing, just use the new file when needed. If in use, will overwrite it if saving is active and will not take new file content since already loaded
May lead to unwanted corruption
if read/write happens while you change the file
not a good idea at all
potent fossil
tired heath
Sorry missed it
left swift
Simp I appreciate u
potent fossil
mana ur cute
left swift
potent fossil
lol singapore airlines randomly emailed me and are like "hey btw we changed how we do food in flight"
like, ok thx
mighty storm
any
potent fossil
wat
void void
is btrfs faster than ext4?
dry matrix
please help with this timings https://timings.aikar.co/?id=a505d252d88044fc8ef260b5296d8650
mighty storm
Whatcha need?
lament patio
Remove "TheNewEconomy", that'll fix it
mighty storm
Some plugin called TheNewEconomy is slowing down your server when someone speed mines
dry matrix
its only this plugin ?
lament patio
Yes, that's the only problem
tired heath
rOfLiMcRyInG here you got a study comparing them, enjoy reading it on your own https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304743738_Benchmarking_Performance_of_EXT4_XFS_and_BTRFS_as_Guest_File_Systems_Under_Linux_Environment
dry matrix
ok but, what plugin economy do you recomend ?
mighty storm
For what?
fallen oracle
O.o
viral hornet
saw your plugin
Oh yes all of my 0 plugins on Spogit 😂
fallen oracle
That's a lot of ploogins
viral hornet
many ploogins
potent fossil
probably a self bot, joined here, grabbed member list, mass dmed, left
potent fossil
oh well maybe not then
fallen oracle
It's cause some servers don't really take action against them.
void void
Trying to find a decent PSU that's 550W or 500W that won't fry my system
https://www.ddtech.mx/producto/fuente-de-poder-evga-550-gd-550w-certificacion-80-gold-100-gd-0550-v1
Does this look good tro yall
drowsy urchin
Should I go with CMI or EssentialsX or?
void void
EssentialsX
mighty storm
Definitely EssentialsX
next wind
i dont know if this is cheaper but here
zealous wedge
uwu
next wind
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=uwu this is accurate
mighty storm
hi zml
zealous wedge
hi chew
zealous wedge
sure
mighty storm
owo
zealous wedge
also why are the anti-uwu ppl here
mighty storm
idk haven't banned them yet
next wind
.g irc meaning
limber knotBOT
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zealous wedge
lol
void void
hey
what's better about using an organization for a collaborative project
rather than a user account
zealous wedge
multiple people can have management access
mighty storm
more permissions
limber knotBOT
teams
mighty storm
collaborators have almost full access, where with orgs and teams you can assign people speciifc roles
void void
isnt that the same with gitlab?
mighty storm
no clue, dont use it
void void
how should you structure a project board?
mighty storm
however you feel is efficient
potent fossil
yea there is no one true method, if it increases your workflow then its right 4 u
however, KISS
mighty storm
kiss who
waxen panther
pop
mighty storm
there's a mod for that
torpid flare
shouldnt need a mod
next wind
but how do you break through the bedrock without using glitches?
mighty storm
spam enderpearls
next wind
does chorus fruit work?
drowsy urchin
I'm going to enable anti xray in the paper config do I need to change anything with the settings or it should be fine default?
mighty storm
rory left, cry
vestal jasper
why is discord telling me to vote
vestal jasper
that's the plan
mighty storm
well, ru gonna vote :vote:
limber knotBOT
yall better vote
mighty storm
vowote
limber knotBOT
i'll vote as long as oregon doesn't forget my address
worn pasture
how did discord tell you to vote @vestal jasper
vestal jasper
banner at the top
the little thin strip that appears on startup sometimes
something something vote something something vote.org
limber knotBOT
vestal jasper
serene bolt
github has been telling me to vote with a banner at the top all day and even when I close it, it comes back later >:(
vestal jasper
@worn pasture ^
serene bolt
worn pasture
lol that's kind of annoying
it's great that they're pushing it though
check your damn notifications vic
mighty storm
pure why did u leave 😢
cobalt surge
Because Rory left
serene bolt
leave what?
mighty storm
the voice channel
serene bolt
I left hours ago.....
zealous wedge
chew why did you leave 😢
cobalt surge
You are never alone when you have a kitty
serene bolt
had to go do other things, like lay in bed and cry have a nice nap
cobalt surge
I would love to just lay in bed and cry
mighty storm
i would love to lay in bed one final time
oop too sad, quick, post pictures of rory
ok so are there actual genuine plugins that help with lag or are they all just lag worsening plugins
serene bolt
stuff like limiters help because they limit the amount of entities, so technically "yes"
mighty storm
someone says their spigot server is lagging due to "chunks and entities" and they want plugins to fix, but like, do plugins even fix anymore?
zealous wedge
i would love to lay in bed one final time
@mighty storm i will fite u if u die
serene bolt
there are, but they usually do so by nerfing stuff or changing gameplay mechanics, so it's a "fix" but it's not a real fix
mighty storm
going back to the voting, I'm not technically registered to vote but I still can 👀
mfw legal name is way too difficult to change
lol @grand pewter i see youve updated the chunky resource icon
zealous wedge
rip
mighty storm
.optimize
mighty storm
thanks
grand pewter
mighty storm
wonderful
serene bolt
the icon even looks good in discord :P
mighty storm
uwu
ok but hear me out
a world but there's only 1 chunk every 1000 blocks
i spent 2/7th of the last week listening to music
restive thicket
Did every U.S. company decide to organize a voting campaign?
Discord, Reddit, now GitHub?
I'm not complaining, and I'm actually impressed.
sonic nimbus
Anyone know what's the latest build# for 1.16.1
true canyon
sonic nimbus
Thank you
worn pasture
i'll bring men instead
merry talon
warm anchor
It’s good since discord has a lot of young adults
Raising awareness is not a bad thing
vestal jasper
@viral hornet noodle
worn pasture
i'll bring my noodle
short yarrow
when looking at PRs do you guys use split view or unified? just found out github had split view
minor badge
i prefer split
short yarrow
yeah same. my company has an internal version of github and they have a split view. never knew github had it
worn pasture
i like unified but sometimes will use split depending on the diff
sand sky
Anyone finding strangeness when caving? Like an increased number of zombies underground, holding onto items that are from other mobs, that haven't been interacted with at all until you have found them? And zombies, holding onto bones that when hit, drop two bones?
mighty storm
anyone know?
void void
does anyone here think
that nvidia's new gpus are like, overpriced
like $500 for a 70 model
is a little expensive
cunning raft
not at all
true canyon
@mighty storm probably go for fix and commit on this.
cunning raft
very cheap for what you're getting
void void
i mean you only think this is cheap because nvidias more recent generations have been way overpriced @cunning raft
cunning raft
nvidia deserves their money here
mighty storm
i just cancelled, turned out some file was CRLF so i fixed that
void void
GPUs are way more expensive than they used to be
cunning raft
their R&D is insane
true canyon
That was MSRP for the 2070 too
cunning raft
because they're a lot better than they used to be
void void
nvidia deserves their money here
@cunning raft I disagree
mighty storm
@true canyon is this true?
void void
this is a similar performance boost to what we get every other generation
nocturne agate
Lmao intel
cunning raft
no its not
nocturne agate
Imagine spending money on intel
cunning raft
this is the biggest jump they've had
nvidia is the sole player doing a shit ton of work in this space
void void
from 2000 to 3000 sure
cunning raft
AMD GRAPHICS
void void
but the 1000 series to the 3000 series isnt as big of a boost
cunning raft
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mighty storm
woah woah
minor badge
radeon has done a good job too, amdgpu is a great driver and the perf is good on windows too
void void
whats up with all the question marks?
nocturne agate
Yay but they aren’t as close no navidan interms or power
void void
compared to 3 generation jumps from the past
the 1000 series to the 3000 series isnt as big of a boost
cunning raft
minor badge
i dont really care about their lack of raytracing n shit, their gpus work on linux and provide a great gaming experience on windows
void void
@cunning raft the yea, the 2000 series was pretty week of a jump
yeah nvidia is shit on linux
no we arent
we already know that
ancient bolt
we
nocturne agate
Why is navida shit on Linux
cunning raft
the 3000 series is a huge jump
minor badge
i think he quoted the wrong msg
void void
I mean I say "we" because I'm the person who sparked the discussion
cunning raft
who the fuck cares about 2000, that's done for
woven glacier
Anyone know a good virtual crate plugin that works with paper 1.16?
void void
who the fuck cares about 2000, that's done for
not a big enough of a jump to make it a huge deal
ancient bolt
the whole ray tracing thing is dumb
amd's next gpu is going to have ray tracing too
and it's likely they will be really good too
also they already are pretty good
also it doesn't matter
cunning raft
the rt cores can be used in other ways like rtx voice and their background removal shit too
so they're not totally useless
nocturne agate
what about gpu processing power?
void void
the rt cores can be used in other ways like rtx voice and their background removal shit too
@cunning raft you know that doesnt even require rtx
people got it running without any difference on gtx hardware
nocturne agate
Don’t ai use graphic cards to run process
cunning raft
sure
void void
but on rtx cards they can be offloaded to rt cores
ok, but whats the point when it makes no performance difference?
its not like it uses any significant gpu or cpu usage or anything
cunning raft
cuda is what games and general gpu processes run on
nvidia offloads raytracing and other deep learning tasks to rt cores
that way your cuda performance is not impacted by deep learning/ray tracing
when you hack the rtx voice firmware to run on cuda, it causes a performance hit on cuda cores
unkempt drift
Anyone know anything about caching maven dependencies in a docker container?
void void
ray tracing DOES make a difference performance wise, but rtx voice running on gtx stuff has 0 effect on performance
like i said
cunning raft
holy shit dude
cunning raft
im gonna get brain damage
first you don't think nvidia deserves money for their r&d and now this
its too late for this shit
nocturne agate
Bruh this man purley here to hate on navida
void void
any performance difference you might have would be within margin of error
void void
nvidia does deserve money for RnD @cunning raft
I didn't say that
all I said
was
they dont deserve that much
i think they should keep their prices the same as they were in the 900 series
heady spear
Fuck yeah I got accepted to an evening course in astrophysics
heady spear
Cease
I’m celebrating, don’t ruin this for me
I need a certain amount of course credits this semester and I wasn’t gonna get them because a course administrator pulled a bitch move
But now that’s solved
unkempt drift
Lol, same thing almost happened to me. Somehow I was dropped from Physics 3. Didn’t realize until the last add/drop day. Had all the pre-reqs, was just dropped for some reason.
stiff yarrow
Congratulations city 🎉
heady spear
I miss a prereq as I missed the exam for computer networking but I mailed 4 months in advance to ask whether or I could still take the course in software engineering
Everyone said it wouldn’t be a problem. Then when we were supposed to register, I couldn’t. I emailed the course admin and she basically said that I could only register if my grade was reported within a week, and she knows damn well that this usually takes over a month
Thanks nossr, I finally qualify for financing again lmao, haven’t had a stable source of money since may
foggy tapir
vestal jasper
fallen oracle
That makes a lot more sense.
woven otter
@heady spear wtf liar why are you taking astrophysics
limber knotBOT
yall wanna see a poem i found from 2018 i think i made
zealous wedge
yes
limber knotBOT
yes but on irc
(also go to sleep c-h-e-w
)
wait
oh there it is
well, the important thing is you have a cat now
indeed
also chick-fil-a :concern:
fallen oracle
Oh that sounds so good right now.
mighty storm
rate my code
limber knotBOT
oof :(
mighty storm
ok rate this desktop
limber knotBOT
i am anti-desktops with icons on them
heady spear
@woven otter bcuz astrophysics is fun 👀
mighty storm
mmmm
heady spear
I want a sexy vegan hamburger with a side of greasy fucking fries
right now
bring it to me
no
mighty storm
no thats just fast internet
limber knotBOT
did you oder on
vestal jasper
@mighty storm please tell me that's a touchscreen
mighty storm
where
vestal jasper
mighty storm
no why
vestal jasper
there's more fingerprints on it than the NSA has in its databases
mighty storm
well it's in a high school comp class what do you expect
vestal jasper
makes sense
woven otter
@woven otter bcuz astrophysics is fun 👀
@heady spear teach me math
heady spear
lmao the exam in this course is basically finding 22 youtube videos and reviewing their scientific accuracy
cosmic raft
hi
woven otter
Wow rude
cosmic raft
meow
potent fossil
I just submitted my critical analysis of an essay for english class and its longer than the essay we had to read.
my professor is going to drop kick me
zealous wedge
nice
stiff yarrow
rate my code
@mighty storm clean the screen pls
mighty storm
that was from 2 years ago, it's likely been cleaned (hopefully) many times
sonic nimbus
Anyone know why one player is constantly getting kicked for this
.... [07:18:45 WARN]: Raillefal was kicked due to keepalive timeout!
.... [07:18:45 INFO]: Raillefal left the game
Everyone else is connecting fine
zealous wedge
bad internet?
coarse hornetBOT
mighty storm
maybe not, maybe i was thinking the packet thing
vernal moth
The new property is a packet limiter
mighty storm
yee, rate-limit
vernal moth
Paper has a system property to play with keep alive timeouts, but if it's just one player he just has a crappy connection
sonic nimbus
This is what they're getting
Im assuming its internet but they can connect then get kicked shortly after
cosmic raft
modded client as well; I blame that first :p
proven shore
hello
twin lagoon
@cosmic raft uwu
cosmic raft
uwu
proven shore
how do u make a server resource pack
twin lagoon
proven shore
like when u join
quasi valley
🐌
proven shore
it auto apply the resourcespack
twin lagoon
.g server resource pack server.properties minecraft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Server.properties -- server.properties – Official Minecraft Wiki: "server.properties is the file that stores all the settings for a multiplayer ... The resource pack may not have a larger file size than 100 MiB..."
twin lagoon
read ^
zealous wedge
uwu
twin lagoon
uwu
zealous wedge
:3
twin lagoon
kneny when are you adding me on discord
quasi valley
no u
zealous wedge
add kneny so you can DM him uwus
quasi valley
I will block the hell out of you 
twin lagoon
marble lark
Is something wrong with doggo
quasi valley
why does lighting/shading look so horrible in bedrock
marble lark
ikr
quasi valley
every time I open it I just want to cry
marble lark
It looks like someone tried to make minecraft without actually seeing what it looked like
cosmic raft
@quasi valley
marble lark
the hell is that gif LOL
twin lagoon
void void
latent valve
Weedtown
cosmic raft
what's different @vernal moth
twin lagoon
more vibrant aswell
vernal moth
But has been for quite some time now
potent fossil
wow holy fuck my calc 1 teacher gave me a C last sem when I earned a low D
what a boss
still hate him tho
potent fossil
yea well fuck that guy i bombed the final on purpose
potent fossil
well ok not on purpose
worn ember
You only fuck yourself with that cx
potent fossil
yea but also he got fired from the school bc everyone complained
but thanks for the C stacio
also wtf the college didn't apply my engl 101 exemption 
worn ember
"oops"
worn ember
Smh when you gotta go to the store to have anything to eat
potent fossil
just dont eat
potent fossil
1 day of not eating wont make u die
worn ember
Downloading breaking bad took like the entire night cx
And it's still going smh I need better internet
potent fossil
is mediabox working
worn ember
Ye
potent fossil
good job
worn ember
It's quite nice
potent fossil
you're welcome
worn ember
I starred it cx
worn ember
Lol
void void
Twitter
void void
Hacker News
jade garnet
So... Anyone know what the hell this person is trying to do?
Ignore the overloaded bit... Host is dying...
vernal moth
chat spam?
with random suffix to trick dum filters?
idk
the suffix is a hex string
worn ember
he's doing hash calculations clearly
2+2 = hash
"There are no mistakes here, just happy little accidents," Bob Ross roared across the room. His voice is thundering, chaotic, and filled with rage, echoing off of the shattering walls of the cathedral.
jade garnet
Well.. He got banned so...
worn ember
well thats the average minecraft player for you
ashen cliff
He just forgot to disable his utility client.
worn ember
40iq
void void
Less
void void
what kind of a client even does this
worn ember
micro pp client
worn ember
ohnonono
void void
dedpp
worn ember
mikro do yu wanna develop for my surber? i'll give you donator rank
cunning badge
It would make a lot more sense to add it for all burnable monsters, no?
heady spear
Im a developur
worn ember
no
worn ember
is that the cologne your dad uses?
worn ember
i was joking
limber knotBOT
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
void void
i can give you some D
worn ember
mikro D
void void
and what do you have to offer
worn ember
i'll send pics
mossy vessel
What kind of spam/scam bot are you 👀
sharp sentinel
?ban @void void crypto advertisements
leaden oxideBOT
One&OnlyBoss#1944 was banned | crypto advertisements
warm anchor
It’s more like crypto scam lol
void void
hm
limber knotBOT
just ban any messages with libra-sale.io, that's a scam site
real site is https://libra.org
sharp sentinel
What if it's some crazy superliminal marketing campaign where they send out scam bots with a fake site, so people feel compelled to mention the real site? 👀 
warm anchor
limber knotBOT
it's facebook
they don't need that, lol
they will just integrate it into facebook, messenger, whatsapp and instagram and have millions of users on day 1
worn ember
disinfectant doesnt taste very nice
sharp sentinel
That's why you get some from a local brewery that switched to hand sanitiser the second they were forced to close
worn ember
hmmm
warm anchor
Time to formulate a drinkable disinfectant
sharp sentinel
Disinfectant is generally mostly alcohol anyway, it's definitely do-able
Whether it's legally sellable as a drink is another question though
olive marlin
Here hospitals started getting disinfectant made from confiscated moonshine.
sharp sentinel
I've been to multiple bars recently where their disinfectant is drinkable and actually tastes decent lol (although gotta say encouraging licking your hands after disinfecting them doesn't sound too hygienic in a pandemic)
warm anchor
worn ember
minor badge
lick my hands, Me~
sharp sentinel
That's not very social-distancing friendly 😛
sharp sentinel
Pretty simple
typographical carets are often used to denote "this"
Caret and Carrot sound similar
Therefore it's a carrot
minor badge
bruh
minor badge
me's iq stopped increasing as he accumulated all the knowledge in the universe and his iq is now 4502 .
latent valve
quasi valley
meanwhile, proximsy's went to -4502
vestal jasper
proxi wtf
minor badge
wtf
waxen panther
wtf
sly fog
(After doing some research, turns out that "another site" they mentioned is PolyMart. Plugin which was reviewed is NameMyItem by vk2gpz, on Spigot)
worn ember
wat
sly fog
limber knotBOT
wait, this isn't from the drama generator 
worn ember
vk2gpz is a big dum
void void
what's up with polymart
limber knotBOT
did you press the report button yet? 😆
worn ember
dude basically called me a retard when his api didnt work as it should
very nice dude
crisp warren
hi
worn ember
running minecraft be like
worn ember
i'd hope so
sharp sentinel
implying MC will max out your CPU cores
worn ember
the server does 👀
crisp warren
Do you think it is possible to make some sort of plugin that detects fabric/forge clientd?
crisp warren
Like this?
sharp sentinel
Oh, maybe that's what I was thinking of, modlists
worn ember
essentially
peak dirge
@void void Basically, take the MC-Market resources sction, and apply no standards whatsoever. You get Polymart.
worn ember
mcmarket has standards?
sharp sentinel
So MC-Market?
peak dirge
MCM has a few standards, but yeah, not a high bar to clear.
sly fog
Hangar > Spigot > MC-Market > PolyMart, basically?
crisp warren
I was thinking of making a plugin that do not allow the player to login with some client unless they have a permission
peak dirge
yep
void void
good luck notupus
peak dirge
I hope to god Hangar never adds support for paid plugins
crisp warren
Has anybody tried?
limber knotBOT
iCaitlyn: last I heard hangar doesn't have paid support so it's not useful in that list, lmao
peak dirge
Paid plugins were the worst thing this community has seen.
worn ember
Notupus thats not fail proof tho
you can just modify the name yourself so it appears to be normal if you wanted to
peak dirge
The kangarko "LEARN HOW TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT BY DOING YOUR OWN MEMECRAFT CODING" fiasco.
sharp sentinel
I mean the emoji itself, not why it exists 😛
limber knotBOT
Tux: imo it has it's benefits and issues like any system will have ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sharp sentinel
Like what discord guidl is it on
peak dirge
A private Discord you're not cool enough to be in.
sharp sentinel
Ah okay 😛
peak dirge
Though if I ask, maybe they'll let you in
limber knotBOT
like would've people donated thousands of dollars to open source plugins if they hadn't have a paywall? probably not
crisp warren
you can just modify the name yourself so it appears to be normal if you wanted to
@worn ember True but security by obscurity is good enough for such a problem.
worn ember
hardly
sharp sentinel
Nah all good, unless it's Eigencraft as I've been trying to find that for a while now lol
worn ember
but yeah its possible
peak dirge
It's not Eigencraft but I'm in there. I can invite you.
sharp sentinel
Ooh, thanks
topaz mortar
Uh
limber knotBOT
main issue with current resource sites/market places is that none enforce open source licenses
golden gust
limber knotBOT
dat spam
limber knotBOT
polymart only offers paypal anyways so it's pretty useless, if they at least had more payment provider support or even crypto lmao
golden gust
The problem is that there are quite practically 0 payment providers which let you do that type of stuff without being a middleman
limber knotBOT
crypto 👀
golden gust
Paypal is pretty much one of the very few payment providers who'll let you accept payments, etc, without having to go through merchant registration
and crpyto is it's own form of cancerous fun
peak dirge
well folks, we've reached the end of the line: I never thought cat was a very successful Minecraft paid plugin author who sold his wares on Songoda. The jig's up!
runs
limber knotBOT
crypto is perfect imo, zero chargeback possibility
peak dirge
you guys have the excuse you need to switch to Velocity
limber knotBOT
runs
peak dirge
runs even faster
sly fog
Where's the marathon at?
golden gust
Theoretically, crypto is amazing; But, I can't see your average day to day server owner being assed to run around, purchase some crpyto, etc, etc
peak dirge
Crypto 
limber knotBOT
also pretty sure polymart acts as a middleman for payments anyways
golden gust
oof
limber knotBOT
they have some revenue sharing scheme for affiliate links
doubt that would be possible without being a middle man
golden gust
Paypal do have some API thing for that which they might be able to take advantage of there
golden gust
Yea
sly fog
Does anyone have a link to the supposed drama between Songoda and mcMMO?
limber knotBOT
let me cycle the drama generator for a bit 👀
golden gust
I mean, it was just songoda drama
peak dirge
I don't like cryptocurrency very much, I still view it as some libertarian wankfest that consumes too much energy
golden gust
I mean, that's mining, which is part of it but kinda dumb and not really it
peak dirge
Mining consumes a lot of energy. The libertarian wankfest is just all over the place, it's not just mining I have a beef with.
limber knotBOT
but imo proof of work is a pretty good concept, it increases the amount of energy that the earth as a whole needs and forces us to think more about clean energy production or ways to deal with the concequences
also most energy that crypto currencies are mined with come from chineses nuclear or hydro power plants anyways so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
it's already mostly "clean" energy 👀
or course it would be ideal to use excessive heat of the miners for heating too which I don't think they do in China yet but some western mining operations do that
iirc. there was even a company putting miners into electrical heaters xD
cobalt surge
@golden gust you are crypto cancerous fun..
runs away
limber knotBOT
put proof of stake is obviously the better concept (besides the whole "the rich get richer" scheme)
sly fog
rip Chrysti
golden gust
hows billy?
cobalt surge
He's good. Hurting but good. I'm about to head up there to be with him
vestal jasper
ask him upstream update wen for me
cobalt surge
He does smell a bit.. but hes getting whore baths..
I'm good. Still holding it all together the best I can.
golden gust
getting whore baths
cobalt surge
@vestal jasper he's gonna say not anytime soon
worn ember
👀
cobalt surge
Ohhhhhh cat I took a pic yesterday.. I rode my bike up there wanna see my parking spot buddy
worn ember
"whore baths" lol wat
cobalt surge
vestal jasper
what the fuck is a whore bath
cobalt surge
Dark have you never heard of that
worn ember
no?
cobalt surge
It's pretty much a bucket of soap and a washcloth and you clean your hot spots and face
golden gust
basically a sponge down, iirc
cobalt surge
Yes
worn ember
i'd google it but i dont think i'd get what i wanted
or maybe i would
depends how you look at it
cobalt surge
Sponge bath
worn ember
fair enough
worn ember
golden gust
lolwat
vestal jasper
ah yes bot vs bot
cobalt surge
Alright I'm out for now. I need to finish getting ready.
golden gust
o/
worn ember
👋
cobalt surge
Purpur when he's home and not hurting
golden gust
I don't care about purpur, I just gotta send my love to him
Which, as a brit is pretty hard
mental meadow
golden gust
stfu or i'll give you a massive grin and flash you my tooth
worn ember
cobalt surge
Lol
worn ember
well i tried
vestal jasper
MiniMessage everything
worn ember
am trying
oh yeah right you cant set components on signs
well not through the spigot api at least
minor badge
yet 
worn ember
does that work internally?
worn ember
is anyone working on that? Otherwise this might be my time to shine
golden gust
We're looking at adopting adventure into paper
worn ember
jsut as i finished incorporating it into my plugin 
worn ember
hu? pretty sure it always was public
golden gust
not like it's not been discussed in public channels
worn ember
oh you mean that implementing it
limber knotBOT
that's gonna be a clusterfuck with every plugin already using adventure 👀
quasi valley
all sane ones relocate it, and paper prioritizes one's own shaded
golden gust
Worse case is we blacklist that package from loading from plugins
limber knotBOT
knenytv: I am more thinking about conflicts due to the same imports
quasi valley
just slap their cheeks
worn ember
uwu me next
limber knotBOT
but I guess it mostly comes down to devs not updating/being dum so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor badge
just blacklist adventure like org.bukkit and net.minecraft are
ashen cliff
We need more ambiguous project names.
quasi valley
we'll just give cookies to everyone only depending on latest paper api
except for everyone saying "uwu"
limber knotBOT
blacklisting it would mean that plugins can't benefit from the text api
and would still need to add it on their own
or do I misunderstand what you mean by "blacklisting"?
mental meadow
everyone saying uwu will receive a headpat and cuddles instead
minor badge
if theyre using the old kyori text lib, it wouldnt be blacklisted due to differing packages anyways
limber knotBOT
I am talking about the current one
minor badge
well we'd need the text api ourselves
golden gust
you'd just prevent plugins being able to load those classes from their jars
minor badge
so itd be there...
golden gust
akin to what it already does for bukkit classes
novel horizon
Hey, do you guys disable /pl and similar commands? There may be a good reason to do so, but I also like that I (as a player) can see what's going on, like are there warps, homes, jobs, residences.. etc
ashen cliff
Negate the bukkit permission for the player.
limber knotBOT
well I was mostly thinking about the situation where one uses methods of paper which use the adventure components, then still shades in and relocates adventure and expects it to work
but I guess that falls under the "dev is dum" case
novel horizon
I'm not asking how, just if ^^
limber knotBOT
no
quasi valley
that'd be a very "dev is dum" case yeah lmao
novel horizon
I don't like it, sort of
waxen panther
wtf adventure in paper wtf
limber knotBOT
there is zero reason to hide plugins and commands that the user has access to
novel horizon
Exactly, thanks
mental meadow
@novel horizon I don't because honestly I don't care, but some kiddies think that it makes us a bad server lol
limber knotBOT
if your server is so generic that simply knowing the plugins lets someone copy it then improve your server
worn ember
if you do incorporate it, wouldn't that push it further from spigot? As the api regarding text components would change
ashen cliff
Well. Sometimes it's nice for people not to know your plugins (good old SQL injection).
golden gust
Personally, I generally have /pl disabled because I don't care to re-enable it, but otherwise, everything else is left as is bar namespaced commands being disabled because pretty
limber knotBOT
I think that's the goal, ded
golden gust
proper plugins/perms deals with the rest
worn ember
oh boy
mental meadow
If you have a plugin that allows SQL injection you have bigger problems than just /pl
worn ember
the revolution has started
novel horizon
I feel like it might contain some problems (people knowing exact plugins means they can use some exploits or things due bad versions or anything)
However, I hate that people all the time spam me with "you should disable /pl" etc
lol, yeah, for sure
limber knotBOT
I just filter plugins out of /pl which users will never interact with and are only for admin stuff
novel horizon
Good point
worn ember
i just dont have a public server
limber knotBOT
that way they don't get spammed with (for them) useless info when they use that command
worn ember
novel horizon
Yeah, big brain
limber knotBOT
can't really go back once you were public, lol
worn ember
well technically my test server is public
as its forwarded
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gotta show my clients my amazing 1.8 pvp mechanics
kappa
novel horizon
Well, I hope there's no vulnaribility in plugins for SQL injection, however, even if, shouldn't be a problem
Unless people want to mess with database and put there info that you bought stone from someone 🤔 otherwise meh
Oh my god I hate those
I like that they changed the pvp
And people were crying so much about that
worn ember
potion minigun
ashen cliff
I just drank 16 bottles of coke strength, 1 v 1 me bro.
worn ember
all i gotta do is throw some milk down your throat
tawdry sapphire
Are there any cool or mods plugin to have on a server?
ashen cliff
All of them.
worn ember
clearchat9000
ashen cliff
PerWorldPlugins.
ashen cliff
PermissionsEX or GroupManager.
worn ember
stop xD
ashen cliff
Never.
worn ember
go explore the spigot page
tawdry sapphire
I did, and there all wack.
tawdry sapphire
oi
ashen cliff
SkinsRestorerX is also a wacky one. A must for all servers.
tawdry sapphire
ooo
ashen cliff
Might as well add Skript to the list.
tawdry sapphire
restores mc skin?
novel horizon
LuckPerms are good
novel horizon
Doesn't Skript had some problems or exploit 🤔
golden gust
It's an interpreter
worn ember
Skript itself is a problem
tawdry sapphire
your a problem. JK
novel horizon
Whatever just use /function and datapacks etc, easy
golden gust
The issue is that it's just slower, anything such as storing/reading variables is much more expensive due to how generic they gotta make that stuff
novel horizon
👀 Let me look at that
worn ember
\https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/random-teleport-full-nether-support.76021/
can i escape that
guess not
worn ember
ban this guy
novel horizon
It has rgb support though
ashen cliff
Anything that has ABANDONED on the end is also a must.
mental meadow
Essentials, but not EssentialsX
worn ember
mine does to "somewhat" new versions will have full rgb support
limber knotBOT
I wonder if mine does RGB lol
novel horizon
What you saying, aurora? Referring to something/someone?
limber knotBOT
eh, it doesn't even have minedown. what was a thinking? Oo
worn ember
minimessage or riot
mental meadow
They are all joking, and I was as well, Essentials is abandoned and EssentialsX is the contuinuation^^
tawdry sapphire
ah
novel horizon
Yeah, of course
worn ember
i mean it still looks pretty ok imo in config files
novel horizon
Nice
worn ember
<rainbow></rainbow>
limber knotBOT
well "ok" and "perfect" are two different things :P
novel horizon
But still you could just /spreadplayers and then /tellraw them things :3
tawdry sapphire
Any other plugin?
ashen cliff
FAWE.
limber knotBOT
👀
tawdry sapphire
good one
mental meadow
FAWE ❤️
novel horizon
I use AWE right now, was doing something
worn ember
wheres my FAWE meme
limber knotBOT
I mean if you like to break your world, go for it
worn ember
better is subjective
mental meadow
ah yes the old joke about the bugs from 5 years ago
novel horizon
I had to do some editing and used AWE
tawdry sapphire
Break world
mental meadow
glad you're keeping it alive phoenix
limber knotBOT
I mean it still happens but sure
ashen cliff
Better is like choosing between two types of cancer.
mental meadow
its not but yea
tawdry sapphire
why not both?
limber knotBOT
happened to my a couple months ago so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
but meh sand physics 😢
sharp sentinel
I can definitely state that AWE is the worst to use out of anything
Due to them breaking the WE license and often just breaking everything that interfaces with WE in general
novel horizon
That's sad :/
worn ember
doesnt city develop that?
sharp sentinel
I don't even remember who the AWE dev is
vestal jasper
city is fawe
worn ember
lets bully him more till he leaves again
heady spear
sb_prime or w/e
novel horizon
FAWE does say though for like the last.. idk a year, don't use these builds on production server, so I don't 🤷
quasi valley
tell us more, city
mental meadow
happened to my a couple months ago so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
where's the bug report then?
tawdry sapphire
LOL
limber knotBOT
don't care enough about FAWE to report shit, lol
mighty storm
literally just yawned
novel horizon
You guys use FAWE on production server, no problem? 👀
sharp sentinel
Like I'll always recommend WorldEdit itself over any forks etc, but I strongly dislike AWE from the foundation of they break the GPL
limber knotBOT
if they fixed their code base then maybe
quasi valley
just report fawe errors to WE 
warm anchor
LOL
worn ember
oh shit is this #spigotDrama
limber knotBOT
but as long as they run some joke of a fork I wont support that project
sharp sentinel
How to get banned from the issue tracker in one easy step
mighty storm
@sharp sentinel how does asyncworldedit break gpl?
tawdry sapphire
so worldedit or FAWE?
novel horizon
Do they, that's lame, Me4502
tawdry sapphire
would yall highly suggested?
ashen cliff
By existing?
sharp sentinel
AWE is a fork of WorldEdit and they don't release the source code
quasi valley
it's closed source
mighty storm
yeah they do
warm anchor
FAWE if you like to live dangerously 
mighty storm
lemme grab it
mental meadow
why would you test a dev version not meant for production and then not report bugs
warm anchor
better if you dont backup
mental meadow
what kind of attitude is that wtf
mighty storm
sharp sentinel
They release very old versions of the source code every time someone tells them they're breaking the GPL
novel horizon
aurora +1
limber knotBOT
aurora: I never said I tested it, I needed it to work and it didn't ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tawdry sapphire
premium, ha what a joke
novel horizon
Alright not gonna use that probably, it works fine though and I needed to edit some big areas
mental meadow
thats worse?
mighty storm
ah, maybe i dont know the lore then
quasi valley
the up to date premium source isn't public
novel horizon
It's a lame practice though
sharp sentinel
AFAIK the source doesn't have anything post-1.12
vestal jasper
ah yes time to bug them every single release
tawdry sapphire
figured
sharp sentinel
Which is like years old source code
worn ember
can i ddos their build server like a real man
sharp sentinel
So yeah, they're breaking the GPL
limber knotBOT
and that's why you don't use LGPL btw, because this doesn't even break the license lmao
worn ember
no license best license tbh
novel horizon
And is premium version even stable?