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ancient bolt
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@vernal moth just found something really fucking annoying

twin lagoon
ancient bolt
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spigot auto-maps any static final Logger field to the name LOGGER without actually having a mapping for it

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it's just done automatically by specialsource

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Removing the command line option to make it stop doing that causes craftbukkit patches to fail

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so what I need to do instead is inspect the jar and add those entries to the mappings that way lol

finite wave
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Lol why

worn ember
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Jane truck

finite wave
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Fuck you ded

worn ember
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Nono. Fuck you Jane

quasi valley
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ded be ded

grand pewter
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hey dark

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decided to wake up?

worn ember
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I wish you were Kenny :(

quasi valley
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pop you're still awake :thonk

worn ember
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Yes I decided to wake up

grand pewter
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its only like 2 am lol

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well

worn ember
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Hah noob it's 11am here

grand pewter
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you're in the future

quasi valley
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european gang 😎

worn ember
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Always have been

vernal moth
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@ancient bolt can't you just automatically add a mapping for each class?

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Ah no, you need the obf field name

ancient bolt
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well I don't know what the original field name is

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yeah

worn ember
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Yikes

ancient bolt
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so I'll just use asm to find any field of that type that's static final and add a LOGGER deobf mapping for it

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should be pretty simple it's just ugh

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why does he do this

vernal moth
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Can't you just fix whatever mappings we use to use LOGGER

ancient bolt
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what do you mean?

vernal moth
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Well, hopefully mcp or whatever is consistent with logger naming

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So could just replace LOG with LOGGER

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Or whatever

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And it should be fine

ancient bolt
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yeah, the issue is if we want to apply patches on a stable mapping then we need to use intermediate mappings

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so it's more like field_asdfa

vernal moth
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Ah and then we can't detect logger

ancient bolt
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yeah, patching off of MCP or Yarn mappings has it's own set of issues that we want to avoid

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and it's not too hard to read a jar with asm so that seems like the least bad solution imo

vernal moth
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Yeah, I agree

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man, its been over a month, almost two I guess, since I stopped using my spigot account and logged out of all devices

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and I still open spigot out of a habbit almost every day

ancient bolt
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I can't remember the last time I opened spigot

minor badge
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remove spigotmc from ur history

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that way it wont complete and you can hinder yourself

twin lagoon
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i only check spigot if i have to go on it for some plugin

vernal moth
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well, I quit before chrome actually loads

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cleaning the history will not get that habit under control either ^^

quasi valley
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that'll only get away if Hangar is done

vernal moth
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just opened hangar 😄

quasi valley
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progress has been insane ngl

vernal moth
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clearly thats because all of the work I did in the last days 😂

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and not because jake has been working day and night

quasi valley
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😂

vernal moth
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these SQL queries are is dum

quasi valley
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at least they can mostly just be copy pasted

vernal moth
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haha

finite wave
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Gotta love the multiline strings

vernal moth
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thats the least of my problems, lol

quasi valley
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oh but jake implemented the jsonb thing

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maybe I can actually finish the notes (if I can also untangle that query)

ancient bolt
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okay that was bigger than anticipated

quasi valley
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lol

cosmic raft
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thought you were a spammer at first

ancient bolt
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All logger fields in minecraft

vernal moth
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thats not that bad

ancient bolt
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yeah, fewer than I expected

vernal moth
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and only need to be done on a mojang update, so it doesnt even need to be 100% automated

ancient bolt
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well, this is all gettin automated lol

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gradle caches everything so it'll only happen once / once per cache clean anyways

rugged python
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tagprefix: '&6&lGamemaster &r&a'
What is the "code" &r&a called? So i can google it and find out what everything means 😛
Or does any1 have a list they can link to 🙂

vernal moth
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legacy bullshit chat colors

viral hornet
rugged python
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thx 🙂

waxen panther
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@viral hornet 😳

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet 🥺

waxen panther
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@twin lagoon cuwuboy

twin lagoon
viral hornet
twin lagoon
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camm how's the 2288g

viral hornet
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still not in the DC :((((

minor badge
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camm how big pp

viral hornet
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wtf

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I have so many taylor swift emoji's I didn't know I had

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ancient bolt
viral hornet
ancient bolt
viral hornet
twin lagoon
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camm 🥺

ancient bolt
viral hornet
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This chat is so perfect rn

viral hornet
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banned

ancient bolt
raven raft
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hello

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can PaperMC hold 20 or 30 plugins with 1 Gb ram server

grave oxide
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Depends on the plugin ¯_(ツ)_/¯

earnest breach
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kotlin is love btw

grave oxide
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but is love kotlin ?

earnest breach
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i mean kotlin is a subclass of love 🤔

worn ember
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what is love

earnest breach
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baby dont hurt me

grave oxide
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what is love
kotlin it seems like

finite wave
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Baby don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me no more

worn ember
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frick i need this program to restore sql backups but i forgot the name of it

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i have it installed but i cant find it kek

finite wave
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Sql backuprr

worn ember
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nah its M$ program

grave oxide
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M$?

finite wave
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.g microsoft sql backup program

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40740 -- Download Microsoft® SQL Server® Backup to Microsoft...: "Sep 26, 2019 ... Microsoft SQL Server Backup to Microsoft Azure Tool enables backup to Azure Blob Storage and encrypts and compresses SQL Server ..."

grave oxide
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workbench?

finite wave
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Azure tool?

worn ember
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ah i found it

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SQL Server Management Studio

finite wave
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Yesyes

worn ember
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it doesnt show up intil you type like half of it

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really annoying

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i hate how my room is like 10°C hotter than any other room in the house

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what the fuck

finite wave
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I left my room

grave oxide
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If your room was the other room, you would have loved it

spice finch
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turn off your computer and 3 monitors, hope it'll be colder there Kappa

finite wave
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Cause i got no ac in my room

worn ember
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i need them though

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and working on a laptop is just eh

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but i might just do taht tbh

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this is unbearable

viral hornet
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@raven raft probably not...if you want players as well lol

waxen panther
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players = problems

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0 players, 0 problems

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ez

viral hornet
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broccolai = peepoheart

waxen panther
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camm = 😳

viral hornet
raven raft
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yes i need only 10 player

finite wave
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Lol

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Some guy just posted that spigot discord is toxic and needs to be fixed

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Lelele

vernal moth
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Plugins really don't affect your ram that much normally

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Some guy just posted that spigot discord is toxic and needs to be fixed
@finite wave I mean, that's prolly true

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Last time I was there only the stupid ppl who are banned here talked there

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Oh it's hex

finite wave
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No clue who hex is

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But if spigot wants to support the legacy community they’ll have to put up with the toxic ones.

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My experience is that the pvp 1.8’s are especially super toxic

void void
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ye

vernal moth
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I just talked to hex in another discord ^^

steel pulsar
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more like sex

finite wave
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Guidelines

steel pulsar
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sorry I meant s*x

twin lagoon
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did you just say secks

finite wave
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Yes six

violet grotto
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Nice emoji selection

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I like the place already

vernal moth
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Welcome to the bright side ^^

finite wave
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Heya

twin lagoon
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hex_26 in order to be welcome in the paper discord

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repeat after me:

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@vernal moth hangar wen

vernal moth
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Yeye, teach ppl to break the rules, smh

twin lagoon
finite wave
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Paper is mostly only toxic if you don’t use supported versions or try to use us instead of google

violet grotto
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Hai

viral hornet
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hi jan pls help my server wont start

vernal moth
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Hangar wen temperature < 30

steel pulsar
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30F

finite wave
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It’s so hor here too

vernal moth
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I just have paper help on mute ^^

finite wave
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Don’t you have everything on mute digg

viral hornet
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That's not very helpful mini 😦

void void
finite wave
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Nice

vernal moth
violet grotto
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That’s a new level of cursed

vernal moth
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This is fine

void void
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that doesn't make javascript any worse however

finite wave
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Thiugh that looks like js so not a fan

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet hi bb

vernal moth
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So I have a few hours to kill, but I can't concentrate on shit

twin lagoon
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it's time to head out for some icecream mini

vernal moth
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But I also want to buy a sound bar and test it

twin lagoon
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& pool time

vernal moth
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Do I go shopping?

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon hi boo

twin lagoon
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ok get ice cream & a soundbar

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and maybe a beer or two along the way

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its saturday so fuck working

vernal moth
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Pool and beer and BBQ is later today

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And can't get icecream cause am fat

finite wave
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Get diet ice cream /s

vernal moth
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I had icecream yesterday and will have it tomorrow 😂

finite wave
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I know some people just suck on ice cubes

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Could go with that

twin lagoon
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the amount of icecream i eat on a daily basis now is unhealthy but i cannot stop it

finite wave
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But cold beer is better imo

twin lagoon
violet grotto
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couldn’t get into beer

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Isn’t it really bitter?

finite wave
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Beer?

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I don’t find it bitter

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I find coffee bitter as hell tho

violet grotto
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Same

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I put a lot of milk in

finite wave
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I bought caffeine pills, got like 300 for 10 usd. Each is around 2 cops of coffee

violet grotto
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oh u pop one if u wanna stay awake?

finite wave
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Yeah, instead of coffee

violet grotto
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dang, never thought of it that way lol

steel pulsar
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sounds an awful lot like an addiction

finite wave
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I don’t pop a ton lol

violet grotto
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many drugs are taken on a daily basis, some are just way more harmful while some are utility

finite wave
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I’d rather take a pill than drink that bitter shit tho

violet grotto
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chew it thinksmart

finite wave
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Chew the coffee?

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Isn’t that bitter too tho

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Like a lot more

steel pulsar
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just eat the fackin beans

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right from the cocoa plants

finite wave
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Easy coffee

steel pulsar
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those are huge

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do you break them

finite wave
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No?

steel pulsar
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how big is one compared to a finger

finite wave
steel pulsar
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still huge

finite wave
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Just drink it with some water and it goes down easily

muted storm
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it's extremely intrusive when i'm trying to use it on a test server ._.

steel pulsar
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lol

finite wave
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Nice

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The flag is to use paper

twin lagoon
muted storm
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man i wish i could kick you from here

olive garden
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Ask on the engine hub discord or whatever it's called, maybe they know the answer

muted storm
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that's not my answer

twin lagoon
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choco lovepoes

muted storm
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yeah probably

twin lagoon
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iirc it should only show up once

muted storm
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shows every startup

steel pulsar
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just do what it tells you

wide chasm
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I think it uses an enviornment variable to keep track of it or something, could try setting that by hand before starting the server.

muted storm
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i am not here to use paper. i am here to rid my test server of a message that does not pertain to me

finite wave
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Isn’t it paperlib stuff

olive garden
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that was clear since your first message, don't feed trolls

muted storm
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that one is hard-coded into worldedit as far as i'm aware

wide chasm
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It checks for paperlib.shown-benefits at System.getProperty, so disabling that will make the server spit out less messages.

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Or rather, setting that

sharp sentinel
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WorldEdit isn't what sends that message

muted storm
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suppose it's better than a wall of text, though that's a really sleezy solution. and yeah, those environment variables are definition not persistent. it shows every startup lol

sharp sentinel
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It's PaperLib

finite wave
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It’s the enginehub person

olive garden
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told ya

sharp sentinel
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So the code for disabling that etc is in PaperLib, not WorldEdit

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But yeah, just set -Dpaperlib.shown-benefits=true in your startup script if you really wanna hide it

muted storm
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Good enough for now I suppose

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Though that is a very, very obnoxious message lol

finite wave
olive garden
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I think you are welcome to not use it should you dislike that feature that much, idk

twin lagoon
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it's good that it's obnoxious

muted storm
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The only reason I have it installed is because it's a dependency for my plugins

twin lagoon
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people shouldn't be using spigot

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kek

muted storm
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Not because I want to use it

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So no, I don't have that choice, trigary

olive garden
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🤔

finite wave
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Hangar when

sharp sentinel
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WorldEdit uses PaperLib because Paper actually provides features that make WorldEdit run better, and PaperLib allows us to use them while retaining Spigot compatibility

muted storm
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I understand your reasoning for its use but I can still dislike the spewing of information I'd rather not see?

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I'm trying to test my plugins, not switch to Paper

vernal moth
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Paper makes worldedit got brrrrrrr

sharp sentinel
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If you want the message changed take it up with PaperLib, but AFAIK the stance is that the current message is fine

wide chasm
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I dislike the message personally as well tbh

muted storm
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of course they think it's fine

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it drives people here lol

olive garden
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you have been told how to disable it, I don't see the issue

muted storm
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It's "disabled"

wide chasm
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Could fork WorldEdit and remove, like, one line I suppose

olive garden
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maybe include how to disable it in paperlib?

finite wave
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Nein

muted storm
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considering it

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at least by flag

vernal moth
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Most users don't even see it so any though spend on that message is kinda wasted

sharp sentinel
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WorldEdit just shades PaperLib

vernal moth
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The majority of servers upgraded to paper already

sharp sentinel
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There's a high chance other plugins you use include it as well

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Only reason WorldEdit is the one that always shows it, is because WorldEdit loads very very early, and only the first plugin shows the message

vernal moth
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69, nice

finite wave
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59.69 only tho

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Not 69.69

muted storm
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The only plugins I have on my test server are WorldEdit, WorldGuard and my plugins

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Doubtful ;P

sharp sentinel
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WorldGuard does it too :^)

vernal moth
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If it would be 69.69 we could drop spigot support 😂

sharp sentinel
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Although WorldGuard actually has a functional difference with Paper, Paper allows it to protect more than it can with Spigot

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Or, be more correct in the protections (I don't recall specifically what)

muted storm
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i'm not looking to be coerced lol. it's a test server. i have it installed literally as a soft dependency

finite wave
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/s

sharp sentinel
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I'm just saying WorldGuard uses it for many more reasons than WorldEdit does, so there's no way it's going from WG

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WorldEdit just uses it for performance improvements

muted storm
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anyways thanks. i'd definitely prefer the 4 lines than the 20 lol

finite wave
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Paperclip is much easier than buildtools imo

wide chasm
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Could make a config option to hide it in WE/WG, although not certain if people are gonna like it.

sharp sentinel
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I don't see a need to

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If someone wants to hide it, they can use the flag

vernal moth
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It's not the consumers task of PaperLib to control that really

zealous wedge
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lol choco

vernal moth
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There is the central flag, that should be enough

sharp sentinel
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If it becomes such a controversy, PaperLib should just provide a config option

wide chasm
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I mean, the flag doesn't hide everything, so...

finite wave
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The flag is a config option

wide chasm
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Yes, in PaperLib would be better imo

finite wave
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Meh

zealous wedge
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if someone doesn't like it they should use paper :p

finite wave
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It’s fine

sharp sentinel
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Yeah honestly I see 0 reason to not use Paper anyway

vernal moth
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Its not a controversy, it's always just one stubborn spigot dev per month who refuses to accept that spigot is not the pinnacle of minecraft anymore

zealous wedge
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or sponge, or fabric, or literally any better modding platform

vernal moth
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No actual server admins complain

sharp sentinel
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Yeah, I was more meaning if you're stuck with Bukkit-api dependencies 😛

vernal moth
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Cause like, server admins who are actually concerned about their server already upgraded anyways

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Or have so many exceptions in their logs that they don't give a shit

kindred storm
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It's not even PaperLib's decision. The message is printed by WorldEdit calling a PaperLib method, which makes complete sense considering how improved WorldEdit is on Paper.

olive garden
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lol

vernal moth
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Man, some server logs I looked at before, holy shit

zealous wedge
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yaa

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@zealous wedge uwu

quasi valley
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or people sending screens of their plugin list with like 20% red/disabled entries

zealous wedge
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uwu

vernal moth
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Yeah, that too

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Like, I get wanting to have a clean log, I disabled spigots dum world config logging for example to reduce log spam

finite wave
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I think choco legt already

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Yeah the verbose shit should be turned off

vernal moth
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But this is an important message

finite wave
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Like why do i need that shit

sharp sentinel
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WorldEdit could print the bee movie script to the console every tick, and people would only notice when they look at their Timings report

wide chasm
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For prod. servers, I get clean logs, but for test servers, please give me all the logs 🙂

muted storm
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it's not. it's petty and obnoxious

finite wave
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Smh choco, spigot guy

kindred storm
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It's an accurate log message.

vernal moth
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If you want to have more than 10 players it's vital to at least consider using modern software 🤷

kindred storm
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printed by WorldEdit regarding its improved efficiency.

muted storm
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it's no different than all my plugins saying "HEY BTW, USE MY SERVER HOST"

sharp sentinel
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It's very different

static pilot
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what are some great modern plugin frameworks

sharp sentinel
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Advertising a server host means nothing

finite wave
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Paperlib

vernal moth
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For starters, it'd not commercial, lol

sharp sentinel
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Saying "This plugin is actually improved by using Paper" is stating a fact that can help out the server owner

vernal moth
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We are an actual open source community

wide chasm
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Frameworks for what specifically, Rigby? Just overall? Also, #paper-dev

zealous wedge
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choco nobody's making you stay with spigot

finite wave
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He is a spigoteer

vernal moth
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Hur dur forks are bad

zealous wedge
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it's not a prison he can always leave if he wants

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imo the message is no different from any other warning for a misconfigured server

vernal moth
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Yeah

muted storm
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there is a reason i don't come here often to talk and y'all are showing me exactly why not lol

warm anchor
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You don’t know if he’s held on gun point by MD5 /s

muted storm
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i have the flag i need, thank you

finite wave
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Np, gl and hf

vernal moth
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I mean, I know why everybody stopped using spigots discord ^^

sharp sentinel
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To be fair, if I went into a community and started on a rant about why I don't use their stuff, I'd expect a similar response 😛

wide chasm
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I'm now envisioning md5 with a gun, please help

olive garden
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you came here for drama, your first message showed that

quasi valley
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but who doesn't like a bit of drama, eh?

zealous wedge
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ya me4502 can you tell me why voxelsniper is better!!1!!1

olive garden
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I love it 🍿

latent valve
vernal moth
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It's gonna be so fun when we hard fork

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To see all the stubborn spigot ppl running around

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Not knowing what to do

zealous wedge
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oh boy there's gonna be whining

quasi valley
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only from the dum dums tho ;)

vernal moth
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Hur dur, my bukkit plugin doesn't work on spigot anymore

wide chasm
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If you drop Spigot support, then it'll be good. If you want to maintain both Spigot and Paper support, then, well good luck.

vernal moth
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Its gonna be interesting how plugin devs react

quasi valley
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well that'd be on you for wanting to support old software 😛

finite wave
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They’ll stay on 1.16

vernal moth
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I am not sure if every dev is aware that they majority of their users run paper

kindred storm
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Yes, that's an issue.

zealous wedge
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i mean the hope is every dev will post one last version that's reasonably stable

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then start breaking compatibility

kindred storm
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A lot of them have no idea about the Spigot/Paper conundrum. They just use the Bukkit API

wide chasm
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Imo, you need to wait for at the very least 90% adaption.

vernal moth
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That's impossible Stef

sharp sentinel
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Nah, 60/70 IMO

wide chasm
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Then, start breaking stuff slowly.

zealous wedge
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eh 70/80

kindred storm
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Really, Hangar is a prerequisite.

vernal moth
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We gotta go half the way, then breaking plugins gets us the other half

sharp sentinel
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It's not just a Paper/Spigot split

quasi valley
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and then all you need is for plugins like EssX and WE to break the barrier and drop Spigot 😄

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other people will follow then

wide chasm
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60 is too low, it then becomes way too easy for plugin devs to just say, "doesn't work on Paper" and people switch to Spigot.

sharp sentinel
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Mini - what percentage is Spigot at?

vernal moth
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And via ;)

kindred storm
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If big plugins dropped Spigot support that would be all that's needed. Same for Java 8 support.

quasi valley
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and Via of course ;p

vernal moth
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Well, since paper it at 60, spigot would be at 35?

sharp sentinel
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Yeah okay, so "Other" is ~5%?

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If Paper got to 70 that's 25% Spigot, which IMO would be enough

vernal moth
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Yeah, maybe a bit less

quasi valley
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if you just look at the numbers, man, Spigot is used by comparably few

zealous wedge
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java 8 support would be extremely difficult

vernal moth
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It's way too early to drop java 8

kindred storm
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No, it's time.

wide chasm
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Server owners don't know how to update Java, getting them to update is very difficult.

quasi valley
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too many hosts etc. still only ship 8 :/

kindred storm
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The hosts would have to update.

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It has to start somewhere.

vernal moth
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It might work for individual plugins, but not platforms

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Mojang can force such a change, we can't

quasi valley
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updating to the latest MC version and away from Spigot is VERY different to updating the Java version

vernal moth
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Paper relies on being a drop in replacement

kindred storm
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That stops being the case with a hard fork as well.

finite wave
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Make paper fetch java 11 runtimes

quasi valley
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no it doesn't

vernal moth
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Not directly

wide chasm
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It doesn't work for my plugin either: usage has dropped from about 60 servers to 20 servers after forcing Java 11 and of those 20 servers, 10 of them are still using a version that allows Java 8.

kindred storm
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;-;

vernal moth
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There will not be a strict point where all spigot plugins break

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Stuff will slowly diverge

quasi valley
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all major plugins can get people to use latest Paper, but we won't get every host in existence to ship J 11 or have people know how to update themselves

vernal moth
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Compiling against java 11 would be a strict breakage

kindred storm
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alright I see

wide chasm
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People come in trying it on Java 8 and handing me a bug report, tell them it requires Java 11, 90% look for another plugin, 10% try to update to Java 11, but you need to hold their hand in trying to update, cause they have no idea how to do it themselves.

vernal moth
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For java versions you need to count on mojang

quasi valley
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^

sharp sentinel
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Just gotta convince Mojang to ship a patched newer version of Java

vernal moth
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Is this actually patchable with a minimal diff tho?

quasi valley
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I mean oof, they ship 8_51 or something lmao

vernal moth
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Has somebody looked at exactly what Oracle did?

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Yeah Kenny, they ship that because later builds break ancient iGPUs

sharp sentinel
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Yeah it’s patchable with a minor diff

finite wave
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Smh

zealous wedge
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java 8u51 is old enough that it runs in backwards compat mode on windows 10

sharp sentinel
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They gotta remove a meta tag for native Win10 support

zealous wedge
#

so i think the trick is to patch the metadata of newer java versions to also run in backwards compat mode

sharp sentinel
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Then it runs compat

vernal moth
#

Idk, if somebody can provide a patch, we could like escalate it, saying it's a security issue (which it is) and talk to bone

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Oh that seems incredible simple

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Yeah that's no excuse to stay on builds with known security issues

zealous wedge
#

problem is that patch probably breaks codesigning, so mojang would have to distribute a full JRE signed and with the patch

vernal moth
#

Don't they sign the launcher anyways?

zealous wedge
#

probably

vernal moth
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They are msft after all

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Speaking about security

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Wut

finite wave
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Gj

quasi valley
#

yeah apparently Twitter on Android had something wrong with it lol

vernal moth
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But like, I haven't used Android 9 in ages

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.g android 10 release date

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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One year

finite wave
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I use ios

vernal moth
#

Basically on old Android versions with old twitter versions malicious apps could read DMs

sharp sentinel
#

Getting Mojang to bump Java for 1.17 would be amazing tbh

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Also if they move beyond J8 there’s less of a hurdle for updates in the future

limber knotBOT
#

they'll probably only bump for LTS releases, but even J11 would be nice

quasi valley
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still a billion times better than staying on 8 lmao

minor badge
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their issue with newer java versions is just intel igpus isnt it?

vernal moth
#

Ye

finite wave
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Just burn intel

lament patio
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With their TDP they'll do it themselves

minor badge
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@twin lagoon uwu

mental meadow
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@minor badge @twin lagoon uwu

void void
#

are we allowed to ping devs?

twin lagoon
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uwu

vernal moth
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read the rules pls @void void

void void
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kk

zealous wedge
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@minor badge uwu

wraith oracle
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Is there a reason Paper requires specifically java 8 to decompile

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Besides the jar command not being a thing in newer versions, I guess

quasi valley
#

?

twin lagoon
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java 11 works fine

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java 14 works fine too

quasi valley
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you can compile and use it from all 8-14 (and prolly higher)

golden gust
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for decompiling, that would be on one of the tools, jar has been around for time afaik

void void
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jar is available with jdk 14 as well

minor badge
cosmic raft
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🎉

worn ember
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jarjar binks

zealous wedge
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you like that pick don't you kashike :p

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oh wait netherite now

quasi valley
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fortune 2

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pf

potent fossil
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@minor badge pink

minor badge
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@potent fossil ping

limber knotBOT
#

wha

quasi valley
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ponk?

zealous wedge
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gm chew :3

limber knotBOT
#

Hello

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hi from the better chat platform

potent fossil
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gonna get loremaster of kalimdor 2today

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2today, ok

limber knotBOT
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2 todays is a lot

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we should really only have one, or better yet zero todays

void void
#

okay this is amazingly stupid. updated docker base image for my clojure project

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and now some crypto library fails with very cryptic message

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using same built image on my own machine, everything works fine

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🙃

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i'll just leave my dev environment to handle production workload then

zealous wedge
#

using some cpu instructions that the destination machine doesn't have?

void void
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destination machine has newer cpu even

zealous wedge
#

intel vs amd?

void void
#

both intel

zealous wedge
#

that is mysterious

void void
#

yes

#

this is truly some next level wtf

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_>

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oic

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found the issue

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that clojure library api didn't handle nil value properly

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i made a typo in envvar name lol

zealous wedge
#

rip

finite wave
#

Lol

polar idol
#

can anyone help me with something very very quick in regards to programming in python? if so, please dm me!

limber knotBOT
#

.ask

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

polar idol
#

Was wondering if anyone could adjust this to make it work for srv records under same IP while also making it work for srv records under different ips

limber knotBOT
#

did you open an issue there?

polar idol
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meant that sorry

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wrong link

#

well it will be a very simple thing I think look at code also hasnt been worked on in years so doubt that option is available

limber knotBOT
#

if its that simple then just do it yourself?

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python isn't hard to learn anyways

polar idol
#

alright Ill go learn it if I must just thought someone might have a quick resolution rather than me having to learn probably more than I would need to to resolve it

limber knotBOT
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I mean if there is no issue nobody can resolve anything ;)

polar idol
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I mean the issue is right now it only allows for A records and my cloudflare dns is set to srv records (in the future there will be different a records pointed to different srv records, but for now it is just srvs) all I need is to have an option to query multiple srv records instead of just an a record because I have redisbungee

potent fossil
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'A'

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->

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'SRV'

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ez

polar idol
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yes I noticed that

potent fossil
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well, the other srv stuff gotta be in there too

polar idol
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one question

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ohhhh got it

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see thats all I needed

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so basically

potent fossil
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look up the format for SRV in python, and change the hosts

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should work.

zealous wedge
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should change your name to sed @potent fossil

potent fossil
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ikr

polar idol
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thx

finite wave
#

Apparently hypixel is primarily a skyblock server now

potent fossil
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their skyblock game is more than regular skyblock though tbh

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its much more MMO like

finite wave
#

Lol look at this ```
TL;DR
Hypixel really needs to stop using Java for their projects because it's old and inefficient.
They throw money at the wrong things and REFUSE to use existing plugins like a modern anticheat or fastasyncworledit
On their Skyblock server they could just use schematic files to save and load the islands and save so much space and probably do things even faster.

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"old and inefficient"

zealous wedge
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lol

potent fossil
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gotta train mining/woodcutting/crafting etc to make better armor to fight better things to get better blocks to build your island, which yea, skyblock, but they executed it nicely

ashen cliff
vagrant niche
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Give me Skyblock cash @potent fossil

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Am broke

potent fossil
#

wat

void void
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stop bein broke den

#

smh my head

mental meadow
#

Ah yes, hypixel should stop using Java and use FAWE (which is written in java)KEKW

finite wave
#

That post was seriously dumb

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he also went on about how their slime world format was too large or too small or smth

left swift
#

Its minecraft everyone has an ego

mental meadow
#

This is getting common

left swift
#

Looks like u need to clean ur screen too

zealous wedge
#

how about people who post on the bukkit forums?

left swift
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I'm selling osrs gold on the bukkit site

potent fossil
#

the timtower guy there is pretty much the only staff member and he's so anti fork it's funny

zealous wedge
#

timtower's just home

left swift
#

For hypixel skyblox cash

zealous wedge
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anti fork? so he's still playing 1.7.10?

left swift
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😳

potent fossil
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idk man, but anytime somebody mentions spigot/paper it's just like the good old days with Necrodoom immediately locking and hiding threads

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except its timtower now

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kekw

mental meadow
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   Original owner: Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Default-Security.Resources, version 10.0.18362.1, arch amd64, culture [l:5]'en-US', nonSxS, pkt {l:8 b:31bf3856ad364e35}
   New owner: Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Default-Security.Resources, version 10.0.18362.1, arch amd64, culture [l:5]'en-US', nonSxS, pkt {l:8 b:31bf3856ad364e35}

wtf windows

finite wave
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@zealous wedge i'm veri gud koder gud sir.

zealous wedge
#

so talent

limber knotBOT
#

anyone know why im hungry and want to eat but cant

finite wave
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My parents always told me i wasn't hungry enough then

mental meadow
#

I despise that saying Jan

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I hate it so much

limber knotBOT
#

im also like really cold?? might be the fan above me idk

cedar spade
#

is Timtower a volunteer or is he paid?

limber knotBOT
#

hi arawra

finite wave
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I think he is volunteer?

mental meadow
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hey chew

left swift
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He's paid in a 5 color rann

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Rank

finite wave
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He has been on there for like fucking ever MD

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and he said himself he probably won't leave cause he enjoys it.

left swift
#

Are the forums really that active lol

limber knotBOT
#

imagine actually getting paid for something you enjoy

finite wave
#

tim is bukkit.orgs only moderator isn't e?

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he?*

potent fossil
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i think so

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idk i dont use that site, but he seems to be

zealous wedge
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like 5 people total use the site for some reason

finite wave
#

A lot of new guys join and ask weird questions and tim takes his time to answer most of em

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He also helps in plugin requests sometimes

#

He seems like a really nice guy, i'd become annoyed at their inability to understand and just ignore most of em

vernal moth
#

Perfect way to end the day, a nice BBQ, some beer, and some raki to top it off

finite wave
#

raki is that white looking thing right?

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Or was that somethign else

vernal moth
#

If you mix it with water/ice it looks milkey, ye

mental meadow
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download it barty

left swift
#

Rude

tawdry holly
#

hey, does anyone know why I can't remove the .html extension with nginx?

void void
#
Like is there a command (I have it for 4GB) for 8GB or 6GB?

Please just tell me lol.
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lmao

zealous wedge
#

imagine reading a tutorial

potent fossil
#

whats the problem with that @tawdry holly

void void
#

is nginx better than apache?

potent fossil
#

what is happening that you dont expect, or what is not happening that you do expect

#

@void void subjective

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but yes

void void
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lol

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ok

tawdry holly
potent fossil
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do you also include the try_files under the if?

#

you're redirecting...what then

tawdry holly
#

Nginx 404 error

potent fossil
#

oml

tawdry holly
potent fossil
#

show me your config

#

ok do you not see the problem here

#

you remove the .html, then never tell it to look for the html file

tawdry holly
#

smort

potent fossil
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try_files $uri $uri.html $uri/ =404;

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$uri.html

#

you remove it, now you have to look for it.

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explicitly

tawdry holly
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    if ($request_uri ~ ^/(.*)\.html) {
        return 302 /$1;
    }
    try_files $uri $uri.html $uri/ =404;
  }
}
potent fossil
#

correct

tawdry holly
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❤️ thanks, saviour again

potent fossil
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that means look for a file asd (literally, asd, no ext). If not found, look for asd.html. If not found look for a folder called asd. If not found, throw 404 page.

tawdry holly
#

ah makes sense

waxen panther
#

simple is hot

potent fossil
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itll be treated as the dir

tawdry holly
#

Nope

potent fossil
#

remove the $uri/ rule then

#

well actually

tawdry holly
#

That doesn't really fix it though

potent fossil
#

idk go look up how to remove trailing slashes

limber knotBOT
#

How do you recover from an unbelievably shitty morning

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Survive?

grave oxide
#

dont think about it?

wide chasm
#

You sleep until the next morning

waxen panther
tawdry holly
#

bruh..

waxen panther
#

nextjs handles that for me wideputin

tawdry holly
#

tysm barty

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bruh ..

void void
#

F

tawdry holly
#

the rest works, home doesn't XD

#

index.html

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I'm very very basic.

waxen panther
#

Did you edit bartys one to accommodate or did you just copy paste lol

tawdry holly
limber knotBOT
#

chew: blankets, tea, cry?

tawdry holly
#

ignore the ugly } - nano has no syntax helper at all

#

I see

#

I have no clue what I did now lol

#

/index works, just w/o it doesn't

void void
#

im using apache

tawdry holly
#

so this bit?

#

I mean it does. https://geri.pw goes to /home but now it can't access home.html

#

ah wait lol

#

yepp works, ty!

finite wave
#

sir bardygamer to the rescue

tawdry holly
#

lovely

waxen panther
#

plz

tawdry holly
#

..??

serene bolt
#

there's a reason barty has the headache causer role

tawdry holly
#

XD

waxen panther
#

Yes I agree directories are FAR too organised

quasi valley
#

ur nose is messy barty

void void
#

this video is art: https://youtu.be/jdUXfsMTv7o

I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made use...

▶ Play video
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10/10

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I've watched it like 10 times now

#

so good

regal path
#

my minecraft forge is broken smh

#

every time i start it up

#

it gives me an epileptic seizure

void void
#

just redo it in multimc

#

and copy over ur files

#

and stuff

#

ez

tawdry holly
#

Can't I make a 404 page somehow?

#

I don't think it matters b/c this is just my little testing thing

#

ah cool, thank you!

wet fog
#

Can someone paste an invite to this server in here? I’m having trouble finding it on mobile

void void
#

Can someone paste an invite to this server in here? I’m having trouble finding it on mobile
?

#

oh

wet fog
#

Tysm

finite wave
#

Lol

left swift
#

Prune all members

waxen panther
#

Prune all white names

void void
#

prune all non-white names

#

ez

quasi valley
#

just prune all people with a '!' or any other pushing one as their first character

left swift
#

Prune upsidedown

quasi valley
#

that's like at least 1000

#

no u smolStop

left swift
grand pewter
#

just prune everyone with numbers in their username

serene bolt
#

👀

left swift
#

Prune people without tables

finite wave
#

Yes pop

#

Do it

quasi valley
#

one ban for every number

golden gust
#

only if we get to remove proxi

finite wave
#

Just a for loop for 4000 and ban a random number of the remaining plebs

#

Rude

wide chasm
#

pets cat

quasi valley
#

bans cat

left swift
#

Thanos snap

wide chasm
#

pets kenny

waxen panther
#

Ban everyone not named after vegetables

quasi valley
#

good thing your name isn't since it's just broccolai

left swift
#

Ban weebs

finite wave
#

@latent valve

waxen panther
#

yeah fr kenny

void void
#

that's the exact reason why weebs should be purged

latent valve
left swift
#

Everything u post is loli related

void void
#

i stand by my statement

#

:^)

latent valve
#

Nahhh if it was loli related i would have been nuke lol

serene bolt
left swift
latent valve
#

800+yt != Loli

#

Bruh

left swift
#

Oh no

void void
#

still looks like a child

left swift
#

You've gone farther than I thought

#

Ethot is a lost cause now boys

latent valve
#

See ;3

serene bolt
#

she's clearly 3,541,977 years old

#

LOL

left swift
vagrant niche
#

Y'all sick fuks

left swift
potent fossil
serene bolt
#

nice!

#

that's a huge amount of quests too lol

potent fossil
#

where's that shrek looking suspicious emoji

serene bolt
#

it only gets worse too, when you get to the new zones you're gonna be drowning in quests

potent fossil
serene bolt
#

but at least they're more fun compared to a lot of the legacy quests where you just fetch stuff

potent fossil
#

ngl most of the quests are "kill 5 X, 4 Y, 15 Z and plz bring back fast or my friend will die."

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but there is some fun lore in between lmao

#

world of warcraft

waxen panther
#

@potent fossil I want that image domain

#

🥺

merry talon
#

you can use it

potent fossil
#

you can indeed its part of sxcu

waxen panther
#

my mobile data is borked I can’t open any sites

#

But thank you

#

I will pl

potent fossil
#

lawl

twin lagoon
#

GRUB boot menu over SSH omegalul

restive thicket
#

<.<

potent fossil
#

just deferred my jury service pepedab

finite wave
#

nub

#

Should just get it over with

left swift
#

Jury duty is a scam

vagrant niche
#

I heard you just have to say "Jury Nullification"

#

thx cgpgay

serene bolt
#

lol my mom gets out of jury duty in a really bad way

left swift
#

Society is a dick to us

#

Fuck society

finite wave
#

how? Show up and pretend she hates the ethnicity of the accused?

serene bolt
#

jan, literally exactly that

#

surprised you got it nailed

finite wave
#

nice

#

I've seen a lot of us law shows

vagrant niche
#

god damn n's ruining our society

finite wave
#

And there is always a karen doing that

left swift
#

Lmfao wow lax

finite wave
#

LAX

olive patio
#

From what it looks Mojang will not be supporting RGB teams 😭

finite wave
#

Stop talking about my nudes like that

olive patio
#

in 1.16.2 at least

spice finch
#

Any idea how to clean 1984 stacks of cobblestone on vanilla server using console?

#

I thought barrel will keep it's content but I was wrong...

left swift
#

Lol

#

Maybe /kill @e[type=Cobblestone]

finite wave
#

Lol what nomama

#

Just kill all items cdfn

void void
#

do /kill @e

#

ez

finite wave
#

no jett

void void
#

lmao

left swift
#

😳

spice finch
#

i didnt know kill works like that thx lol

#

but like

#

i have to do it from console

finite wave
#

execute at in

#

or smth

spice finch
#

cuz my client insta crashes

finite wave
#

sec

left swift
#

How did you get 1984 stacks of cobblestone in a barrel

void void
#

yes

finite wave
#

let me get you a command cdfn

spice finch
#

mods

#

rip, killed my whole cows farm

#

kill @e

void void
spice finch
#

but it worked fortunately

void void
#

no lag now 🤷

finite wave
#

Do something like execute in overworld positioned 0 0 0 run kill @e[type=item,distance=..15]

spice finch
#

tried /kill @e[type=cobblestone] but didn't work so did /kill @e

#

but already spawned some cows

finite wave
#

where 0 0 0 is x y z

void void
#

i mean, it worked 🤷

#

you could always restore from a backup 🤷

#

i take one every 15 minutes

finite wave
#

Doesn't that also kills armor stands, itemframes, pictures and everything else?

void void
#

zfs 😎

#

Doesn't that also kills armor stand, itemframes, pictures and everything else?
prob

#

i think it does

spice finch
void void
#

why is it that it's not recommended to use shenandoah GC over g1?

limber knotBOT
#

uh oh discord dying?

void void
#

i saw some benchmarks, and shenandoah is faster

#

🤷

#

discord go bye bye

finite wave
#

Mine is fine

limber knotBOT
#

well i admit, irc is better in this case lol

serene bolt
#

yeah I see like 2 servers on my list right now as offline, so they might be having a bit of trouble

void void
#

is async-chunks better?

#

than vanilla

#

Im looking through my configs rn

limber knotBOT
#

Jettison, not sure but doesn't this option affect only API async chunk calls?

void void
#

🤷

spice finch
#

well discord seems to work

limber knotBOT
#

Rip discord

left swift
#

It bak

spice finch
#

works fine

limber knotBOT
#

Doesn't load for me

left swift
#

Someone made the Chinese overlords mad

spice finch
#

ye chew, but once you get in it works fine now

left swift
#

Just started loading again for me

limber knotBOT
#

rip discord

spice finch
#

IRC is better in this case lol

limber knotBOT
#

let's all stay on irc

#

Guess it fine but irc superior

#

EU servers worked without issues 👀

#

if only discord properly sharded them, lol

#

ya my mobile discord is entirely 🦀 so I'll be here for now

#

first EU servers were dead, now US servers I guess?

#

Not sure how it works under hood but weird

#

I suppose, well done discord

#

messages from you arrive to me fine on discord

finite wave
#

Mobile is ok for me

#

For now

limber knotBOT
#

Well, it broke again for EU

serene bolt
#

another week another outage, what's new

limber knotBOT
#

Irc server still fine and dandy

#

can confirm

finite wave
#

They just hating

limber knotBOT
#

Hating? That irc actually works? Smh

#

Wait if discord is down how is the bot workin-

finite wave
#

Cause it’s not down hoe

serene bolt
#

because discord isn't actually down

spice finch
#

Now it works

serene bolt
#

there's just some weird issues going on, not full outage

limber knotBOT
#

Oh oh ooh oh

winged rain
#

Hi i have a little dynmap question. Is it possible to pregenerate the world BUT don't let it show on the dynmap? I count dynmap as a spoiler if players didn't explored the area on their own

limber knotBOT
#

.g big time rush theme

void void
#

thank you

serene bolt
#

I'm far too old to know what that is, but I'm guessing boy band

limber knotBOT
#

THE ICONIC NICKELODEON SHOW

void void
#

disney channel i think

#

oh

#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

My childhood

serene bolt
#

iconic nickelodeon show

limber knotBOT
#

It's not just "some boy band" smh

serene bolt
#

yeah that's far past my time if that is what you consider iconic for nick

limber knotBOT
#

Hannah Montana was also my childhood

#

Binged watched all 4 seasons on my iPod touch

#

S​oo​n: you can probably pre-generate the map without dynmap installed then add dynmap again

serene bolt
#

childhood
iPod touch

I'm a boomer confirmed

#

drake and josh was my favorite show on nick probably

#

nope, same period

left swift
#

Spongebob best nick show ever

spice finch
#

^

serene bolt
#

amanda show was weird as shit

#

so was all that!

#

basically kids SNL

limber knotBOT
#

Servers are disappearing from my list

spice finch
left swift
#

That was like early days adult swim

#

Nick at night

golden gust
#

meh

serene bolt
#

my life as a teenage robot

finite wave
#

l

serene bolt
#

chalkzonee

left swift
#

Ya icarly or drake and Josh

steel pulsar
#

reality show cancer is probably why 2000s kids are so weird

#

i grew up woith real cartoons like thunder cats

left swift
#

Reality show?

steel pulsar
#

isn't that what icarly is

left swift
#

No

golden gust
#

I mean, the biggest thing I saw watching family grow up in the 2000s is that parents have seemingly overadopted the whole "don't hit children"

finite wave
#

Hah should have told my parents that

golden gust
#

And, not really that directly, but, I know my bro got away with a looooooot more shit than any of us older ones would have gotten away with

#

25

left swift
#

Was family matters nick?

#

Or fresh prince

serene bolt
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thats nick @ nite

golden gust
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I mean, I didn't want most of that crap yall are talking about

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family too poor for nick lol

left swift
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Nick was bundled in our basic cable when I grew up

serene bolt
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i had a friend who never had cable during our entire childhood, he only watched PBS

left swift
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PBS on the weekends had some bangers

serene bolt
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PBS had some really good shows yeah

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clifford, dragon tales, arthur

left swift
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Yuh

serene bolt
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yeah for sure but for being free and accessible to basically anyone with a TV they're pretty good

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no cable needed

steel pulsar
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if you didnt grow up with disturbing dog hsit like ren and stimpy and courage the cowardly dog

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you dindth ave a real child hood

left swift
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Courage the cowardly dog is 2000s

serene bolt
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loved courage, hated ren and stimpy

steel pulsar
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it was like 97 i think

left swift
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That's also cartoon network I think

steel pulsar
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it came later but it defeinitely had the same aura

golden gust
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ed, edd and eddy

left swift
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Og teen titans

steel pulsar
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brrrrrrrrrrrrrryeah

golden gust
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oh god

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that agent one

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the treehouse

left swift
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Knd

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Hell ya

golden gust
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Yea

left swift
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I've heard some dark things about the ending of the show idk if it was confirmed though for knd

steel pulsar
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that came out after i grew up

serene bolt
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oh yeah kids next door damnnn

golden gust
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Honestly, a lot of those shows died after my childhood

steel pulsar
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cartoon network had their best shows from the segment they had, whatever it was called

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what a cartoon?

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you'll recognize the theme song

finite wave
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He doesn’t

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He kindof quit

left swift
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I even stopped looking at it and I'm an asshat

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Lol

finite wave
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It’s full of people eho shouldn’t be in there

left swift
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Gotta start somewhere

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Sometimes you start in the wrong place

steel pulsar
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but then they go on shared hosting and they get other problems

finite wave
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Come in the front not in the back

left swift
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Cuz when they go shared host they go to creeperhost

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Lul

finite wave
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Nub