you should've re-applied the timings patch while you were at it lol
#general
limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
it was a massacre
limber knotBOT
"worked"
green edge
what happened with craftimize?
serene bolt
the first time I ever met mason was actually on a very, very irrelevant discord. I guess he did sysadmin work for moonmoon_ow
limber knotBOT
wait, he had RCEs in his stuff? Oo
limber knotBOT
wow
twin lagoon
green edge
everybody here knows about him
that's a statement in itself
the RCE thing is definetly not something i'd even consider doing with a client
but knowing some owners out there it doesn't surprise me
green edge
most servers i've dealt with had decent management. The exceptions usually lie in competitive servers
and i'm guessing that's a big percentage of craftimize's customer base
limber knotBOT
oh they DO have a choice
green edge
there's always other choices
twin lagoon
their choice is?
limber knotBOT
they just don't want to invest the money into getting better servers
twin lagoon
no
green edge
they can develop their own fork in-house
limber knotBOT
or infrastructure
twin lagoon
stef not everyone can do that
finding a capable developer who can develop your own optimized fork is literally impossible
limber knotBOT
e.g. there is zero reason to run a 100 player skyblock server
you don't need that, just spread them over multiple instances
and you wont need some shady third party server
limber knotBOT
- you get non-limited gameplay Oo
twin lagoon
development time
serene bolt
wtf that conversation about that backdoor with craftimize, jesus christ
green edge
The infrastructure to make an auto-deployable game takes a lot of time and money to implement
limber knotBOT
not really
heavy jetty
Is there a way I can stop people from always finding the seed of my server
twin lagoon
and it makes sense to atleast hold 100 players on 1 instance
green edge
and it's not reasonable for under 300 players
green edge
^ 1 week of development is still more costly than 200$ spent on somebody optimizing your server for 200 on
obviously if you want to handle 500+ players that's the way to go
twin lagoon
it's more than $200 but either way
vagrant niche
ye, just give spotted $200
twin lagoon
faster than spending weeks of re-designing your entire infra
limber knotBOT
take whatever per-player-world skyblock plugin of your choice, put some player spreading in there + cross server tp
bam
it's basically what my server is working towards (without the player base) lol
serene bolt
skipping entity ticks seems like such a lazy way to fix performance, I've seen a few paid forks that do that
twin lagoon
it is
green edge
It works
twin lagoon
iirc he did have async navigation of some sort
limber knotBOT
we are currently laying the ground work for instancing all the shit =D
twin lagoon
and he used to have good patches
limber knotBOT
async world block calls 😓
twin lagoon
phoenix it's easier to say all of that when you don't have a big playerbase or you're still in a development phase
green edge
Also if you skip entity ticks smart it isn't really afecting the average player
twin lagoon
if your server exists for years you can't just easily switch it over to some multi-instance shit within a week
especially if you don't have a developer available
limber knotBOT
my server has existed for 9 years lol
and it's easy to say if its a hobby project ,)
*;)
twin lagoon
yes but if you have a constant 200 players on your server
things are going to be hard
green edge
Craftimize is really well advertised
twin lagoon
it's not tbh
green edge
That's the reason he's the only one
limber knotBOT
I would say the reason was fake advertisement, lol
granite salmon
wasn't that the backdoor thing?
limber knotBOT
because everyone knows better and actually contributes to the community instead of selling shady shit
twin lagoon
if paper worked so well craftimize wouldn't exist
green edge
I've provided performance optimization services to a few clients, but i never bothered of making a specific website for optimization
limber knotBOT
I bet some of his patches would've been accepted if he just PRed them
or, you know, if a user of his server PRed them
green edge
The ones skipping entity ticks?
green edge
Doesn't he provide the sourcecode along?
limber knotBOT
wat
twin lagoon
no stef
green edge
typical
limber knotBOT
it's public, just take a look at the list
slim nymph
wasnt accepting != didnt have anyone active to accept them 😛
serene bolt
yeah, there was a massive inactivity when tuinity was blowing up
slim nymph
yeah im just saying use better wording lol, that wording you used sounds like we intentionally CHOSE to not merge PR's
not offend, just sends different message lol
unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
I also don't necessarily remember when that was, proper PRs where accepted all the time
slim nymph
billy has a lot of merged PR's
hard kernel
limber knotBOT
imagine prioritising performance stuff over API if the server runs like shit smh
hard kernel
hi aikar
potent fossil
looks at my PR for the website dropdown coughcoughaikarcough
slim nymph
its just ultimately a time issue, I try to deal with easier PR's when i can, i just have to juggle so much
green edge
Sangeeda is partially right. Most of the plugin purchasing community doesn't end up with decent playerbases
limber knotBOT
but its all public so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+is%3Amerged
slim nymph
i thought we had something waiting on that
potent fossil
huh
slim nymph
was waiting for soemone elses response i thought
potent fossil
for the website?
upper flicker
👀
potent fossil
point established
serene bolt
was basically just cat and leaf during that time period
worn ember
i blame Z
limber knotBOT
the reason why it blew up was because spotted made tons of experimental changes which, half of the time ended up bad 👀
and the other half was amazing
and ended up in paper eventually
stiff yarrow
I hope you guys aren’t complaining about an awesome open source project being slow to accept PRs because the developers have lives and make sure everything put into the code base is quality stuff 
limber knotBOT
a fork that "just merged all of paper's open PRs" would've not blown up just because of that, lol
serene bolt
yeah this community only says spigot is bad what do you mean 
potent fossil
We're
upper flicker
I mean there was that submission that was like months of shit that there was then a giant temper tantrum over
potent fossil
👀
limber knotBOT
well I get that, but my base argument is: why waste resources on some shady and illegal fork instead of helping the project that is struggling?
worn ember
ZZ 
twin lagoon
$$$
upper flicker
my server performing better than yours means more players for me means more money for me
twin lagoon
people will pay lots of $
stiff yarrow
well I get that, but my base argument is: why waste resources on some shady and illegal fork instead of helping the project that is struggling?
@phoenix616#0000 I don’t know what I missed and I don’t know if I want to know what I missed
green edge
it's all about money for many servers
upper flicker
the community at large doesnt give a rats ass about open source or giving back
limber knotBOT
nossr50: craftimize shit
knotty rose
Wth happened since when is aikar java flag guy lmao
green edge
look at the monetising scheme for serrayne's servers
upper flicker
if you go into it with that thought in your head, you will be very disappointed
that being said, the smaller but very vocal part that does care will make it all worth it if you have the time
twin lagoon
if servers could live off of open-source shit only
would be beautiful
not possible & not gonna happen
green edge
there's also the lessons people got from plugins like FactionsUUID
upper flicker
the backdoor was a no brainer too
limber knotBOT
Michael: that's just wrong. you can built a lot of cool stuff on open source server and plugin code alone
limber knotBOT
you don't need a developer to change some config entries
twin lagoon
nor is opensource server software enough for a few
worn ember
only things i dont open source are paid comissions
twin lagoon
configuration only does so much
green edge
you can get far with configuration only
limber knotBOT
I give discounts to people if they allow me to open source it ;D
green edge
generally less custom features means less maintenance costs
twin lagoon
i don't mind opensourcing things that i commission
knotty rose
Coding plugins is not that hard, if a person wanna do it and has interest, they can go learn java and learn the spigot api, amd practise and do their own plugins
without a dev
twin lagoon
i just can't change that mentality for my clients
limber knotBOT
85 is still 75 more than the server is desigend for 
limber knotBOT
no, ded
grand pewter
hey dark hows it going
worn ember
Allo pop
grand pewter
oh yeah btw we found a weird bug in your plugin
limber knotBOT
it's not like open source licenses have some entry about maintaining shit 👀
grand pewter
so when the cache is empty it doesnt teleport the player when its filled again
twin lagoon
good luck enforcing licenses
green edge
^
twin lagoon
time to lawyer up
limber knotBOT
barty: a server that has no vanilla gameplay is not a custom fork, it's just a void server reimplmentation
twin lagoon
i've said it before, most people do not give a shit about licensing in the community
waxen panther
🤨
limber knotBOT
of course you can have tons of players without gameplay
I prefer playing Minecraft
worn ember
yeah just retype the ocmmand lul
limber knotBOT
Michael: you can't force me to provide support ¯_(ツ)_/¯
worn ember
its sort of intended
limber knotBOT
"<DarkEyeDragon> but then you gotta maintain it too phoenix"
twin lagoon
people who fork paper & sell it for $ will provide their own support
you don't just pay for the jar lol
upper flicker
really depends who you buy from
green edge
Seeing how they act in posts, i'd rather not trust that their support has that much value
twin lagoon
eh it does depend on the developer
upper flicker
when your audience is factions owners you can basically be as much of an ass in the forums posts as you want
green edge
Look at something like stellar
upper flicker
just makes it more authentic
twin lagoon
accurate
green edge
False advertisement, ignoring licenses
limber knotBOT
the main issue I have with paid server forks is that they almost always don't provide the source
twin lagoon
they don't no
limber knotBOT
which is violating my own rights, lmao
green edge
Mc-market staff also doesn't care
made a ticket a while back asking about it
no answer 😛
limber knotBOT
don't make a ticket, make a DMCA takedown request 
limber knotBOT
the sell pages
twin lagoon
it's just a waste of time
green edge
There's no copyright on the sell pages
limber knotBOT
if they sell your code without rights ¯_(ツ)_/¯
twin lagoon
unless paper can hold a good amount of players like 1.12
green edge
Also it's pointless, you get rid of one another one pops right up
twin lagoon
there will always be paid forks
limber knotBOT
well that's the beauty of the dmca, they have to proof that it's not applicable
upper flicker
no they dont
thin jay
What’s this debate* about?
twin lagoon
paid forks
limber knotBOT
copyright violatins
upper flicker
the most they have to do is file a counter notice with a vaguely legit looking address to send to the original sender
naive abyss
How do i can use the aikar java flags in my start.bat?
upper flicker
then the distributor has fulfilled their legal obligations and it goes back up until it goes to a court
limber knotBOT
wouldn't writing a fake address be a violating of the DMCA though?
upper flicker
yes
green edge
They don't care
thin jay
Here’s my take. People will always sell paid forks legally or illegally, the best way to reduce those forks is to make yours the best known, it depends if it’s worth the time to get them shut down as once one closes another opens
limber knotBOT
they care once a court case is open
upper flicker
how many people open court cases
limber knotBOT
;)
upper flicker
and how many would be willing given the absolute clusterfuck that is bukkit's license
green edge
You would need to open court cases for maany people
upper flicker
ignoring that you'd dox yourself and then people would just do worse
upper flicker
as much as I wish everyone would respect the intent of the license
limber knotBOT
well abusing personal information is illegal too
upper flicker
bukkit is a clusterfuck
limber knotBOT
so even more courtcases 👀
green edge
I'm guessing with paper patches it's a bit easier to handle in court
upper flicker
prove that x person did y to you from a computer 15 countries away
if you want people respecting licenses and behaving like adults, bukkit and minecraft are not for you
naive abyss
Hypixel uses Paper?
cunning raft
well abusing personal information is illegal too
Looks at US
green edge
It's a lot of costs and time involved phoenix
thin jay
cough cough FBI agent peering into computer screen
naive abyss
'-'
limber knotBOT
JRoy: just don't be in the US
limber moon
hypixel still runing on 1.8 plugin development
hard kernel
anyone in NA wanna play league? im a gold sup main
naive abyss
Yes Hypixel is 1.8 i know, but i want use the same thing that he
limber moon
but I could only find outdates and or shit tutorials for 1.8
cunning raft
Hypixel forked off spigot
naive abyss
MinecraftCentral uses TacoSpigot
limber moon
taco
twin lagoon
minecraftcentral is fucking pepega though
thin jay
With your live
slim nymph
thin jay
I wish I was that dog and not working at midnight
slim nymph
He's just too cute
limber knotBOT
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
limber moon
how do you do this bot shit
naive abyss
What is best for performance TacoSpigot 1.8.8 or Paper 1.8.8?
limber moon
tell me
worn ember
doggo
limber moon
is it a secret channel
twin lagoon
so paper is always the answer
green edge
doesn't matter that much
naive abyss
A Paper 1.8.8 can Hold 300 Players online in a skyblock server?
twin lagoon
probably
green edge
yes
kindred storm
no
thin jay
How long is a piece of string
kindred storm
humans are stronger than machines
twin lagoon
4
naive abyss
With a i9 and 64gb ram?
kindred storm
in the mind!
green edge
yes
limber moon
what's the theoretical highest player count on a single server(playable)
slim nymph
at this point, please dont use 1.8 paper, use a more maintained fork
kindred storm
Programming depends on reason. Humans are the ultimate program!
twin lagoon
kindred storm
yep
green edge
what's the theoretical highest player count on a single server(playable)
@limber moon as big as slots allows you
upper flicker
the max value of whatever the protocol uses for server list ping
twin lagoon
yeah nacho looked pretty impressive
upper flicker
so an int presumably
naive abyss
at this point, please dont use 1.8 paper, use a more maintained fork
@slim nymph i need performance
slim nymph
yes, use a fork of paper is what im saying
nacho has a lot of backports
so its going to be faster
and its actively maintained
green edge
It would be interesting if somebody made a packet lobby server
naive abyss
NachoSpigot?
twin lagoon
iirc already exists stef
slim nymph
yes it was just linked
upper flicker
it does yes
twin lagoon
there's also limbo servers in Go
kindred storm
@mortal mountain
naive abyss
Send me the link
green edge
Limbo servers are relatively easy
twin lagoon
literally just did
naive abyss
for download
kindred storm
you just got the link
green edge
since you only need to send a keepalive and essential packets
austere ivy
should I be writing/compiling my plugins on and using features from Java 11?
twin lagoon
sure
green edge
the issue comes when you start implementing functionality
upper flicker
if theyre for you, ezpz yes
austere ivy
they're not.
twin lagoon
i mean you could just stripdown paper stef
upper flicker
if theyre for others, as long as you dont mind telling people to update
twin lagoon
easier
upper flicker
dont strip down paper for a limbo server
kindred storm
yes
upper flicker
gross
kindred storm
use java 11
green edge
I've experimented with a limbo in production
naive abyss
LOL this don't exists
austere ivy
when is java 11 expected to become the new norm?
green edge
we managed to keep 600 players with 2% cpu usage on the limbo
twin lagoon
upper flicker
no one knows brian
green edge
also took up ~50 mb ram iirc
upper flicker
its the default in modern versions of ubuntu and ubuntu is the most widely used server distro
so... yeah, take that with what you will
austere ivy
it's frustrating that java 11 is having such a hard time for adoption because meanwhile I'm hoping to be able to use pattern matching in jdk 16 as soon as possible ;p
limber knotBOT
tehbrian: when minecraft 1.8 dies
upper flicker
could be 5 years, could be 15
naive abyss
I have a network and i go open a skyblock server
kindred storm
if people want their plugin they can update to java 11
upper flicker
^ this is what will force them
naive abyss
go play 300 players or more
kindred storm
it's so much nicer developing on java 11
limber knotBOT
does jenkins properly support java 11 builds yet? had issues with that the last time I tried that :S
slim nymph
lol wtf nacho didnt backport the oversized chunk patch
upper flicker
yes phoenix
twin lagoon
uh
upper flicker
well at least with gradle, havent tried a maven one iirc
kindred storm
didn't a bunch of servers switch to java 11 when tuinity required it?
limber knotBOT
yeah, if mc ships a new jvm it could change a lot
kindred storm
nacho author is here too
twin lagoon
o
twin lagoon
@mortal mountain hi sprock bb you should add me because twitter dms fucking SUCK
limber knotBOT
I should add my paper fork to bstats just to see the 100% java 14 lol
austere ivy
I'd really like that phoenix lol
seems like everyone has their own paper fork nowadays
void void
can some one help me install mod for minecraft
austere ivy
instead of "here's a link to my github profile" people will just link to their paper fork
void void
can some one help me install mod for minecraft
can some one help me install mod for minecraft
green edge
Something interesting i want to experiment with is auto-scaling with hetznercloud
twin lagoon
stop spamming
green edge
And have an OVH game server on the frontend so DDoS is not an issue
void void
can u help me
austere ivy
never knew what nacho was, just looked at it. poor heath having to deal with exclusively 1.8 players
green edge
also iirc hetzner supports kubernetes
twin lagoon
not exactly
twin lagoon
yes
i'm talking about kubernetes autoscaling
like, automatically buying servers
you can install kubernetes on anything anywhere
hell it takes me 30 seconds to get a single-master cluster up with https://k3s.io
green edge
there are some open source projects for that
slim nymph
oh man grounded is already on a better path than ARK, fixing bugs!
green edge
twin lagoon
these are official autoscalers
yes but that's not an autoscaler
that's just some weird Go provisioner what could've really just been done with Ansible
limber knotBOT
gotta love seeing this https://i.moep.tv/fLUtAdF5.png
austere ivy
wait how does nachospigot work, there's no patches
twin lagoon
they have proper autoscaling
they'll scale your cluster automatically upon pod needs
that is proper autoscaling
austere ivy
if there's no patches then they're hosting all the source code, which isn't illegal?
minor badge
@twin lagoon uwu,,,
twin lagoon
uwu
green edge
never touched kubernetes, so i'm not really able to give an opinion here
limber knotBOT
tehbrian: yes, they are violating multiple copyrights
twin lagoon
very fast moving
green edge
the thing that makes hetzner attractive is the pricing, and i believe that for long-term, it's worth making your own infrastructure for it.
void void
can some one help me install mod for minecraft
twin lagoon
what mod
void void
any
twin lagoon
.halp
limber knotBOT
austere ivy
phoenix616, are they not in trouble because no one knows about it, or no one cares?
kindred storm
well
twin lagoon
with the information you've provided:
kindred storm
I spoke with the developer
twin lagoon
.g minecraft mod installation guide 2020
limber knotBOT
the later one I assume
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_IjR3BmOc -- How To Install Minecraft Mods NEW 2020 All Versions -...: "Jan 17, 2020 ... This Minecraft tutorial will teach you How To Download & Install Mods ... I downloaded java and forge, it still wouldn't let me..."
twin lagoon
enjoy
kindred storm
they are not using the patch system at the moment but might move to it sometime later
limber knotBOT
anyone who ever written code in bukkit/spigot/paper or even mojang could just fuck them
austere ivy
I'd assume no one cares enough to dmca a repo with 11 stars but still
not that they're unimportant
kindred storm
yeah I told them the same thing
limber knotBOT
you could also just tweet at microsoft that they are hosting their own copyrighted coded on their platform 👀
austere ivy
but Mojang's not going to spend legal money to say "frick u" to a small little github repo
minor badge
i doubt microsoft cares even then
twin lagoon
besides they already spend legal money for their brand protection companies
austere ivy
best of luck to Heath then
upper flicker
brand protection gets more attention paid to it then random github repos
green edge
iirc there are 5 year old repos with nms
upper flicker
we're all only here because there's a long history of mojang not giving a single fuck about copyright infringement
austere ivy
they didn't even change the readmes to say it's not maintained by spigot anymore ._.
upper flicker
now if you took their code and became a legitimate threat to them or their interests
then they might care
austere ivy
but we're just helping Mojang by adding stuff to their ecosystem, so they wouldn't really care then?
upper flicker
yes, that is the argument
and we're not selling anything on a scale that it outweighs that benefit or directly challenges them
we being everyone
knotty rose
.g differences between virtual dedicated servers and virtual provateservers
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.futurehosting.com/blog/dedicated-servers-vs-virtual-servers-whats-the-difference/ -- Dedicated Servers vs Virtual Servers: What's The Difference?: "Nov 6, 2017 ... Virtual servers run on dedicated servers, the resources of which are divided between several virtual servers. You can think of..."
austere ivy
they're straight up not using patches, on one hand it's a bit easier to read but on the other hand it's really weird seeing a mixture of taco comments, paper comments, and various other forks' comments in one file on plain text
serene bolt
what a great thumbnail
kindred storm
have you worked with patches before? they are not fun. I do not justify the content they put up. But patches have never been convenient.
waxen panther
Patches really aren't that bad with modern ides lol
kindred storm
If you have worked with them a lot like some people here, then perhaps they will be easier.
upper flicker
they do become easier
kindred storm
But for a lot of people they're very annoying. It's just so much easier to directly edit source code.
upper flicker
you can fudge the patch system to more easily redo things
once you know what theyre doing anyway
its just meta git
what could be so hard about that?
void void
if u know how to install minecraft mods and are willing to me out join general call
upper flicker
not like people already complain about git's learning curve 👀
limber knotBOT
I just run the byof scripts and they work ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
yes making the tooling do all the work so its just magic and people dont have to think about it is basically required on a public repo
stiff yarrow
patches are not a big issue, it just adds extra steps to contributing
void void
if u know how to install minecraft mods and are willing to me out join general call
kindred storm
i've gotten progressively better at using git, but patches have always been a pain
knotty rose
using the #general channel as your search engine
Im too lazy to open a new window, open google, and search it lol
limber knotBOT
just put the mods into the mods folder?
austere ivy
Im too lazy to open a new window, open google, and search it lol
but you have no problem opening up a window of discord, opening paper's discord, going to #general, and searching?
knotty rose
Even if i had to do the later cuz the one in the search wasnt what i searched
stiff yarrow
patches are just git in another form
austere ivy
or do you just constantly have paper's discord open
knotty rose
but you have no problem opening up a window of discord, opening paper's discord, going to #general, and searching?
i have discord and paper discord open alredy?
austere ivy
can't argue with that I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
one has the browser open already too though?
ctrl+L <type> shift+enter really isn't hard
knotty rose
Even if i was in another server, its still fasrer
austere ivy
I'm pretty excited for when OpenJDK moves to github
serene bolt
Hypixel really needs to stop using Java for their projects because it's old and inefficient.
guess I'm done reading now
worn ember
green edge
teaching hypixel how to run their server
mortal mountain
Wowww that’s crazy people know about nacho
Lol yeah, I should change to a patch system but meh
limber knotBOT
if catserver can then so can you 👀
vagrant niche
pr or shutup
waxen panther
sue me or shutup
worn ember
shut up or shut up
twin lagoon
peak dirge
the fact you use lombok is driving me insane
lavish nova
Im not even using lombok
because the plugin is broken
also is "naked package" the correct term for a class with no package declaration
i kinda just made up a word
grand pewter
well if it has no package declaration then it is just the default package
lavish nova
AHH default package
not naked package
I knew it was called something more sensible
grand pewter
yeah something like that i think, at least as far as i know
so you have the default package scope then
lavish nova
I swear I am a professional Java developer
finite wave
gg
grand pewter
im not lol
shell vine
I'm at sonic 
warm hornet
tired heath
Is called a screenshot
ancient bolt
jesus christ "facebook gaming" (the thing mixer turned into) is horrendous
or maybe facebook just is idk
it's so ugly
light harbor
tired heath
-1
dark sequoia
Paying someone for an earth map.
Not satisfied with it.
A 1:500 scale, with orinary ore generation
The one that I downloaded had custom ore generation, players would rush to the hot spots
fallen oracle
👋
It's tomorrow. Just finished 9 hours of loading the moving truck.
I depart in 12 hours.
I still have 2 hours more to pack tomorrow.
But yeah, we're getting there!
Biggest initial loading part is done.
Driving the truck is insanely fun tho
All the other cars look so small
The seat is hydraulic too. When you hit bumps, it moves you to keep you stable.
potent fossil
@vagrant niche im making adobo
void void
doesn't even go above 100 views 
regal path
i need help with cloudflare at papermc
limber knotBOT
finally home
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hallow swallow
Anyone knows site where ppl can submit forms
just flat file, they type things and click submit
mortal mountain
@slim nymph I do Nacho, I’m still having to add the oversized chunk patch XD just haven’t gotten around to it
Any notiable patches I should backport?
And do you think I have offered up enough credit to the respectable developers of each patch?
I’ll be adding velocity support to 1.8 too XD
merry talon
google forms?
shell vine
what would you say is the best minecraft host panel
void void
what panel softwares are available even?
a lot of people run to suggest pterodactyl, it's mediocre at best...
multicraft sucks and AMP... well i don't know how it is now but about a year ago it used to suck a lot
potent fossil
whats wrong with ptero
or rather, what do you want in a panel that ptero doesnt have? i mean, it has a cancel, server stats, file manager
everything else? ssh plz
s/cancel/console smh
potent fossil
why did everyone disappear
potent fossil
hahahaha so fonny i do input file from zero file output file 2 ur hard drive device hahahahaha
void void
hahahaha
potent fossil
that wont work btw, you targeted a device not a partition
potent fossil
does it actually just overwrite the partition table
void void
yes
potent fossil
that is some top kekkery
potent fossil
kek
void void
commit dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
best insult
commit sudo rm -fr /
that is some top kekkery
nah that's exactly how it should work - if you wanted to edit partition table using hex editor then... you can
chad right here
who needs fdisk?
who needs mkfs
potent fossil
i didnt say it was bad, just didnt think it would do it like a madlad
void void
just do it in a hex editor 😎
or rather, what do you want in a panel that ptero doesnt have? i mean, it has a cancel, server stats, file manager
actually giving ip addresses to the servers instead of doing this stupid port binding
potent fossil
wat
void void
in more managed way
it does give servers ip addresses right now, but they change as you rebuild containers
or alternatively, provide a proper way to set container name
so you could simply refer servers via their container names in configurations
one good example is when you use proxy
potent fossil
ah yea i just submitted a suggestion to let us set labels and choose network for the server
void void
kitpvp = "mcserver-kitpvp:25565"
hub = "mcserver-hub:25565"
build = "mcserver-build:25565"
being able to do this is amazing
potent fossil
but i've never had an issue with the ip changing on me
however yea, hostname ref would be nice
afaik it does work, but you need container id
potent fossil
congration
void void
ye
i also can attach arbitrary networks to containers so i can have network-wide services and per-server services
e.g mysql/postgres per server
and also fine tune backup policy for them
sure, i don't have a working web interface right now, i'm just using graphql web query thingy (provided by apollo-graphql) to do stuff 
but eh, can do pretty well without it
potent fossil
there we go @void void dd if=/dev/zero of=$(mount | grep ' / ' | cut -d' ' -f 1)
even better.
void void
pog
i was thinking about how i would do something like that
lmao
ez troll
cat /proc/mounts
potent fossil
fuck tiktok
void void
tiktok bad
dd if=/dev/zero of="$(grep '.*\s\+/\s\+.*' /proc/mounts | awk '{print $1}')" status=progress
TIKTOK BANNED
POG
there y'all go
wait
no in 45 days
:(
gotta wait gamers
for the tiktok ban
don't worry someone will make a clone
wait, where will they go????
uh oh
potent fossil
mine shorter mikro
void void
void void
THE TECH NEWS MUST NOT WAIT
potent fossil
techLiNkEd
potent fossil
i have a macbook but havent used it in months because the chassis is breaking
void void
"facebook gaming"
LMAO
who uses facebook, and plays games?
lol
people do
people do
*boomers do
potent fossil
there are ppl streaming on there atm
void void
idk depends on the people / country / location after all
potent fossil
i mean facebook gaming is just mixer except with facebook and white theme
potent fossil
facebook's new design is so bad
potent fossil
i had new and switched back to old lol
void void
Pixel 5 october 5th (maybe my parents will finally let me buy a phone, lol)
and i'm just using http://userstyles.org/styles/136318
void void
it made a 💩
potent fossil
bruih
potent fossil
go on irc i guess
https://www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/facebook-web-dark-mode.png
there
whatever
potent fossil
their unfurler is probably down lol
but yea anyway new facebook sux
facebook sux in general but new facebook is a bad move
potent fossil
hell no
potent fossil
because im busy watched techlinked
void void
lol
i finished watching it
lol
the TECHNEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sniffs that's some good technews
limber knotBOT
eh, irc time it is
void void
so, does anyone want to help stresstest server?
limber knotBOT
no
void void
:(
potent fossil
no
limber knotBOT
f
man i'm so cool
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potent fossil
@void void idk if this works anymore but try it https://github.com/plushmonkey/avalanche
void void
oh thx
potent fossil
maybe very slight adjustments to log in, after that it'd probably work for your purposes
potent fossil
does it have 1.16?
limber knotBOT
mine? yea
potent fossil
share 2 jerry
limber knotBOT
no
limber knotBOT
do i wanna
potent fossil
yes
void void
link = big pp
limber knotBOT
i'm quite ok with my mikropp
void void
lmao
potent fossil
void void
you are having some smol pp energy mikroskeem
limber knotBOT
no u
void void
-100 inch pp energy
void void
lol
NOT SHELDON FROM THE BIG BRAIN THEORY
surreal entertainment is art
tip: always have captions on
uh oh
potent fossil
shhhh
void void
shhhh u
bruh
Sonic Ether posted something new on their patreon
pog
(I don't have patreon, but there are other means i use)
call me blind but i don't see who asked
potent fossil
that dude is making way too much money
$1.13 per minute, every minute, every hour. $49,112 per month. That's higher than some people's annual salary
potent fossil
He's making half a mil a year
void void
rich boi
potent fossil
589k
void void
lmao
potent fossil
kekw
void void
^
void void
i don't, there's another site that gets the patreon stuff
"legally"
ofc
it's meant for something else.....
🤷
prime pawn
Hey guys
void void
hi
prime pawn
What's happening 😄
prime pawn
Oh
prime pawn
With my gtf 2080 super I get like 800+ fps xD
prime pawn
With optifine max settings (except render distance which is 20)
void void
w/ raytracing on mc?
plus I only use optifine for shaders
sodium is so much better
but it doesnt have shaders
prime pawn
mm, I'm getting a 2080 ti though
Just gonna use my 2080 super for 4 monitors and my 2080 ti for my gaming monitor
prime pawn
Well at least they're on sale at where I usually get my hardware
I could get a ti for 1.5k aud
void void
some graphical glitches
he's trying to render at a lower resolution, and upscale it
for more performance
The big brain theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yvBNWEsoM
bazinga
void void
oh ok
potent fossil
still cape
anyone now an uncomplicated, SECURE way to play/convert MP4 Audio files (.m4a) on windows 10?
i get no sound from my recordings, apparently windows media player doesn't support them, and i'm worried about downloading codec packs b/c of virus risk (already downloaded one today that virus scan blocked)
cedar spade
for conversion, handbrake?
serene bolt
vlc for playback, handbreak for conversion, sounds like a solid combo to me
cedar spade
Handbrake is advertised as a video transcoder but works great for audio too
void void
anyone now an uncomplicated, SECURE way to play/convert MP4 Audio files (.m4a) on windows 10?
ffmpeg
for encoding
also (have to say this) windows bad.
still cape
thanks it's just voice memos i recorded that now i need to refer back to and hear what was said. not trying to do anything fancy with them just listen and hopefully convert them so they can play on more devices.
and thanks i remember vlc, must have installed it lots of times but for some reason i didn't have it on my pc
minor badge
vlc supports every format ever :p
void void
nope
still cape
grr figures
still cape
?
void void
vlc supports everything but also happens to be buggy as hell at the same time
still cape
yeah i want to convert it to another format so i'm trying to get handbrake but no luck yet
void void
no website required
ancient bolt
Ah so Jettison Jerry is one of those "btw I use arch" guys
still cape
okay what do i install on my pc to get it to work, can you walk me through it or is something i will have to spend more hours learning/setting up?
ancient bolt
Don't download from cnet
void void
iirc vlc devs were the ones who were against adding compiler arguments which help against some nasty buffer overflows
still cape
i've already been at this for a few hours
void void
smh pacman, nix-env -iA nixpkgs-unstable.handbrake 😎
cedar spade
You can install it through Ninite (designed to help mass install programs on a new PC, but also works here)
still cape
what is arch, does it work with windows 10, do you have a download/install link, and/or a tutorial with basic steps to get it to work on my pc
ah file archives
i managed to get that much off that wiki
vestal jasper
btw
cedar spade
empathy: you don't need arch to install handbrake
If you feel like replacing Windows some day, maybe
still cape
that's what i figured... i try to assume people are being genuinely helpful not showing off or leading me in circles but some recommendations/options i get suggested seem like that's what's happening. anyway any other suggestions along the lines of handbrake or something that will convert those files relatively easily is appreciated.
yeah i am not replacing windows any time soon that's just no where my life is and probably won't be for long
cedar spade
You can download Handbrake from their GitHub releases page linked above, you probably want either the Win_GUI.exe or Win_GUI.zip
still cape
tho why both iphone and windows provide the voice recorder app with no convenient way to listen to/convert the recordings is just... well, i guess things not making much sense is more and more the normal
void void
who can give me a hand with debian?
cedar spade
You can listen to the recordings in-app, I'm guessing that's all they care about
minor badge
windows 10's Groovy Music or whatever might also support it
void void
who can give me a hand with debian?
sure, what do you need?
I haven't used a debian based distro in a while, but I'm sure i can help
thanks! I transfered my towny files to my dedicated server and some users have towns with special characters
still cape
it's already installed (handbrake) but it's not wanting to cooperate https://gyazo.com/cd2b4d27b59ccde8ffb150934d5b22f4 i am able to listen to it in vlm, it's 50 minutes so long enough
void void
but when the transfer is done the files with that characters get changed to hex codes or question marks
huh
can you give me some examples of those names?
and what they are converted to?
京都市
minor badge
what exactly do you use to transfer them?
void void
^
京都市
I just made a file w/ that name. works for me
maybe ur fonts
or something
that's what I'm thinking
minor badge
doubt, its more likely the transfer software or intermediary system that doesnt like it
void void
the files are renamed with something like this #U3055#U304f#U3089
then it's prob the software you are using to copy it
how are you copying it?
minor badge
try using rsync, that shouldnt have any issues with them
void void
I just extract my server backup directly into the dedicated server
but I see the files with winscp
do you have physical access to that machine? or is it in the cloud?
in the cloud
oh ok
minor badge
try using rsync, that shouldnt have any issues with them
marï // Proximyst#0069
void void
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
can you ssh into this server?
yes
oh ok
you should prob be able to do:
rsync -rv epicserver user@ip:/location
something like that
ok I'll try, thanks
are you running linux on the pc you are going to copy the files from?
still cape
sigh [00:26:12] scan: unrecognized file type
void void
the files are already copied
void void
I used to use a shared hosting so I asked for a backup and I download it to my dedicated using wget
minor badge
it should also be able to convert it
still cape
o.0?
minor badge
open it, press CTRL-R, then press convert
cant really give you much more cause of the weather here atm, but i'll ping you once i'm in the clear :p
still cape
oh goodness be safe, where are you? and i think i got it
its supposedly converting right now tho i won't count on it till i see it
minor badge
you can always count on vlc to follow through
waxen panther
🤨
ancient bolt
Proxi lives in an adorable little hut just off the surface of the sun
weather is often an issue unfortunately
minor badge
i am the solar storm
ancient bolt
but the good news is you never need to pay for a heating bill
still cape
dude... we're practically neighbors i live in phoenix
been setting all kinds of heat records
twin lagoon
@minor badge xx
finite wave
Proxi you guys are having a hot time too?
serene bolt
👀
cedar spade
Proxi and Jan having a hot time together 👀
finite wave
Gider ikke engang gå udenfor fordi der ikke er ac udenfor
latent valve
Yuck
minor badge
@twin lagoon xx
@finite wave Jau, er ikke så meget varmt akkurat nå, da. Akkurat vært lyn og torden :p
cedar spade
Yes there is, it's called water
finite wave
Got diabetes?
finite wave
The way that needle just lays there opened seems very unsanitary
static pilot
which one
static pilot
ah yes, insulin goes into the syringe and that goes into the little thing on the left of the syringe
which contains a needle that goes into my stomach
afterwards usually all of it besides the vial goes into the trash
grave oxide
While youre at it. Lets also make a command /deop (player) which deops yourself and not that player 
void void
*Cons: endless whine by server owners
finite wave
Prepackage luckperms and disable op perms
twin lagoon
@minor badge 😔