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worn ember
finite wave
Dafuq simp
potent fossil
wa
sly creek
i searching hosting for my minecraft server(VPS IF POSSIBLE), low prices, i9, and hosting in NA
finite wave
ovh?
zealous wedge
I'd recommend a computer
finite wave
what
sly creek
o.o
worn ember
worn ember
steel pulsar
slim nymph
This is what I was meaning earlier about the damn ants in grounded lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_FhLo_BdX8
void void
Hello, I use fabric on my client, i am moving my server over from fabric w/ lithium and phosphor, to a papermc fork (Yatopia). Is there someway to get carpet functionality like /log tps?
minihud integrates w/ that in my hud, but I can't seem to find anything for paper
spice finch
Not proper place to ask
void void
where would I ask?
void void
yep
spice finch
Uh, just purged my apparmor and snap got fully uninstalled 
cunning raft
shit fork
limber knotBOT
like the fork of all forks
spice finch
yatopia is
limber knotBOT
cunning raft
no
spice finch
not everything
limber knotBOT
that "some point" hasn't passed
cunning raft
leaf is keeping some with tuinity
void void
A comment from a guy at DedicatedMC about Yatopia
sorry my power went off
120 people generating new chunks at 20tps
limber knotBOT
thats just normal tuinity
void void
how is a bot responding
is it sentient?
"normal tuinity"
it even has patches from lithium
which is neat
serene bolt
Tuinity itself has large gains over Paper in certain areas, I would not be surprised if most of the "wow" factor in Yatopia is a direct result of that
void void
Well and other forks, and their own stuff
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pathfinding is about it for their gains
void void
Well and 2x faster redstone
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and with apparently that recent paper pr eigen wont really be theirs anymore
a good portion of redstone improvement is from me
grave oxide
40 ticks/s redstone? 👀
void void
Well at least they made a system to combine them
limber knotBOT
it's built on the hard work of other people...
spice finch
chew, but.. IDK what's the problem with that - it's opensource and don't require you to pay for it
void void
XD
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someone did some comparison with eigen + pistons and a recent change I made, and I managed to pull ahead without eigen
limber knotBOT
thinking it's a bit to begin with
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it turns out a lot of block setting is bogged down by notify...
limber knotBOT
Not just manually copy pasting patches, that's pretty much what submodules are
void void
Yeah and it totally worked 1st try with 7 submodules
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nothing works first try
void void
so back to what i needed help with is there someway to get minihud to get the TPS and mspt from the server?
it works w/ carpet
void void
Lol
twin lagoon
josh's comment on it seems pretty pepega
I saw a solid 120 people at 20tps, ZERO pre-generation, and config files slightly changed.
I've just tested the same server on papermc - with ZERO pre-gen and little config change, and we crashed at 70.
sounds like a fresh map to me
i can pull 200 players at 20tps with tuinity with a fresh map
anyone can
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fresh map makes it allllll easy
although back when I started working on this shitty fucking performance I couldn't get 90 players doing fuck all at 20tps
void void
Well people had creative
pulsar wigeon
what, you mean it's all the lag machines people build later on that cause lag? 
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limber knotBOT
wow even wiz is running
potent fossil
i just had war flashbacks to the players on a server i manage getting angry because they could no longer build and use 128 block high mob farms
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I'm going to write some async pathfinding myself once I'm done with lighting
that's the only gain they're making
potent fossil
i also caught shit for turning off 0tick
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I kinda have my own doubts about the hopper improvements
I see they included some EMC changes, which ik aikar wouldn't hold off that from paper unless he thought that there was a behavioural change that was fine for EMC but not for paper
finite wave
Or he forgot/was too lazy to transfer
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I kinda doubt it
he went ham on hoppers a while back
ill see how md5 responds to that issue
I don't wanna get into the mess of physics events on my own
we'll see
serene bolt
yeah, block physics is awful and I can't imagine anyone spending a ton of time on figuring out an issue with it because of some mushroom blocks and redstone tbh
but at least the issue is gorgeous and glare provided a ton of info
unreal quarry
just check if there's any event handlers before creating the event object ¯_(ツ)_/¯
that way only servers that have a listener would "suffer" those few nano seconds
spice finch
Is there correct place to ask linux question? 😳
static badge
more or less I don't want to be the person to come in and start firing these events more often and maybe cause some behavioural regressions in other plugins
sly creek
i searching hosting for my minecraft server(VPS IF POSSIBLE), low prices, if possible i9, and hosting in NA
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true canyon
Look mom I'm on tv!
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if md69 can't figure it out I will and submit it to him
and that's about all I'm going to do
don't wanna break plugins
worst case he declines it
and glare can take my patch
problem solved
that will break things
I don't want to find out
I don't want to find out
it's very arrogant to assume nothing will be affected by things like that
I once made decisions like that
and paid for them
unreal quarry
i'll add a toggle for it, just because i want to see things blow up lol
static badge
with how I'm going to handle this about everyone gets off happy
you get your fix
and I don't break things
waxen panther
Simple smd
potent fossil
no
waxen panther
K
finite wave
Dupe yes very gud
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make a hackfix
vernal bone
Hello! Does anyone knows how can I make automated backups every day? I wouldn't like to download all of the server files thru sftp ever day.
vernal bone
zfs?
void void
the Z file system
well, openzfs
it's included w/ freebsd, and on linux you have to install it seperately
on arch linux there is a aur package and a repo w/ binaries
limber knotBOT
void void
if you're on windows, good luck
spice finch
ad 
vernal bone
And how can I make zfs take a backup of one of my paper servers every day at a given minute?
twin lagoon
debian is best
twin lagoon
cEnToS
void void
i use arch on my server
arch linux arm actually
it's a raspberry pi
@vernal bone what os are you running on your minecraft box?
vernal bone
Ubuntu
vernal bone
Glad to hear.
void void
yea!
ubuntu is pretty good for servers
ngl
i don't like ubuntu for desktop use though
(arch and gentoo 😎)
vernal bone
I don't use the gui
twin lagoon
arch is epic
serene bolt
I get anxiety from system updates
limber knotBOT
pure is afk but speaking in general
worn ember
who hurt you
limber knotBOT
aaaawaaaa
serene bolt
god forbid you ever restart the machine... will it ever return? who knows
void void
I've never had issues....
serene bolt
not on linux I haven't, but good old windows of course :P
void void
windows is poo poo
twin lagoon
windows is fine tbh
switched from arch to windows
haven't rebooted into arch for weeks now
spice finch
real crime michael
void void
windows is literal SPYWARE
serene bolt
I think the only time I ever had an issue on linux was because I manually had to nuke out some previous kernels from my disk space being maxed out, and the machine had trouble until I used update-initramfs -u which fixed it
potent fossil
michael, wtf is wrong with u :(
umbral tiger
michael is 
void void
imagine not using an opensource operating sytem
lol
haha gnu+linux go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
limber knotBOT
windows is open source if you violate some laws 
twin lagoon
hi tehlo
void void
big 🧠
twin lagoon
jettison you're the stereotype arch reddit user
spice finch
violating law is against law
void void
i use gentoo though lol
twin lagoon
same thing
void void
and some arch
twin lagoon
just with more patience
twin lagoon
that's literally what it is
void void
i've been using linux since I was 8, and am never looking back XD, the only time i use non-opensource operating systems, is in a kvm
that is the way
peak dirge
Have to use Windows for school RIP
peak dirge
But I mostly run Linux for my work/gaming needs
naive quest
Any alternatives for Hetzner's AX41?
umbral tiger
For EU? No
umbral tiger
Not possible to get that power for the same price anywhere else
youre not wrong
also hi barty
how you been
naive quest
Thanks for help
vernal bone
When I first got into Linux
I didn't know keybinds or anythinf
And tried copying the welcome screen's massage.
With crl+c
And I was suprised that I closed the ssh window.
void void
XD
void void
anyone want to help stresstest my server?
limber knotBOT
not quite how it works lmao
potent fossil
holy fuck o.o
vernal moth
can somebody pls just DMCA that?
potent fossil
which prems are in there
worn ember
hu?
limber knotBOT
my plugins arent there :/
potent fossil
i see mcmmo
potent fossil
he's claiming fair use lol
stiff yarrow
mcMMO is GPL 3 its fine to be there
potent fossil
kay
vernal moth
yeah, thats the issue
limber knotBOT
so theoretically they can all just be there
vernal moth
well, would need to check every licence
ancient bolt
@vernal moth what the fuck
vernal moth
stackmob has no licence btw, so thats a violation
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what's going on
kindred storm
more kangarko
ancient bolt
some dude named kangarko
potent fossil
i mean all plugins are meant to be gpl (noting well the fact, included in me's (and company) article, that it's never been tested in court)...so i mean, idk how that would go. lol. but i would quite like to see what would happen if one of the authors DMCA'd it
latent valve
Damn no one have said r word yet 
vernal moth
bitbucket would just take it down
they dont need to check
they just need to take down
cause DMCA stupid
limber knotBOT
cant say the r word
potent fossil
we are being civil here dokdok
limber knotBOT
gotta say "fucking stupid" now
vernal moth
isnt residence a paid plugin?
ancient bolt
sources must be included with any distribution of GPL code
considering none of those plugins have sources attached
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so what's going on with kangarko
ancient bolt
easy DMCA
cedar spade
this is just a repeat of his previous MineAcademy libraries repo
vernal moth
nossr pls for the lolz
stiff yarrow
yeah if there's no source or link to source that's a violation technically
limber knotBOT
there isnt
cedar spade
nothing new except he isn't distributing free CMI any more
vernal moth
@static badge its mainly just the funny disclaimer I found https://bitbucket.org/kangarko/libraries/src/master/COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER.txt
limber knotBOT
just jar and pom
ancient bolt
because it's for """teaching"""
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well it looks like the repo is public
stiff yarrow
tbh it doesn't really bother me at all and I don't know much about this guy other than he was involved in some drama that I wasn't around for
twin lagoon
kangarko kicked out every developer under mineacademy
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so that's horseshit
limber knotBOT
is this just a 404 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gUBs6W4g/image.png
vernal moth
its used commercially
limber knotBOT
or 403
potent fossil
my UPS driver has been at the same house for like 15 mins, sus.
vernal moth
not only for his commerical "teaching", but also in his paid plugins
stiff yarrow
@potent fossil maybe he ded
kindred storm
kangarko kicked out every developer under mineacademy
Why?
potent fossil
well that's not what I was thinking but maybe
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maybe he's being held at gunpoint
potent fossil
that would be quite a shitty time
i wanna get this https://i.imgur.com/uL0bqqI.png
stiff yarrow
I heard UPS drivers make bank from a friend irl
potent fossil
im pretty sure they do
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really?
ancient bolt
depends on what "make bank" means
ancient bolt
what I know is that the police shot a UPS driver and UPS issued a statement thanking the police
fallen oracle
I had a friend freshmen year in college pay for him to travel to home every weekend 150 miles. He'd work the full weekend like 30 hours and then come back.
stiff yarrow
I heard it was pretty high
cedar spade
UPS drivers get employed to build vaults and big bank buildings
potent fossil
imagine being a ups driver making 110k/yr
fallen oracle
He was getting paid like $50 an hour
vernal moth
yeah, no normal driver makes 110k
ancient bolt
but whats the median
potent fossil
check
ancient bolt
median is more statistically significant
vernal moth
no because they wanted to change stuff to be better barty
fallen oracle
I did find it interesting saying that it would start being him again on the forums.
azure flower
I did notice the winter plugin, which they made and I unfortunately bought once was suddenly not discontinued anymore
potent fossil
lowkey dont know how to calculate the median for that so ima just not kek
azure flower
Just interesting i guess
cedar spade
yeah, it sounds like the people he was employing were trying to improve stuff and he didn't like it, but that's only from the small bits I've heard
vernal moth
fallen oracle
Well he straight up fired the dude who rewrote ChatControl for him.
stiff yarrow
workload is unbearable 
worn ember
lol F Leonhard
potent fossil
smh, he's pinning all that shit on leonhard?
fallen oracle
The dude reached out for me asking if I knew any lawyers so that he could try to get his $200 in affiliate credit from the website.
potent fossil
stiff yarrow
lawyer would def cost more than that
worn ember
hiring a lawyer for 200dollar
ancient bolt
doesn't he like not even teach the basics even remotely correctly?
Considering he's telling people to use a libraries repo i guess that answers that
fallen oracle
I think he uses eclipse with lombok or something
ancient bolt
only reason I could think of for that is if he is inserting malware or some shit into those libraries
worn ember
stiff yarrow
lombok 👀
slim nymph
that license file is lol. let me go distribute photoshop because im teaching you howto use photoshop
ancient bolt
Lombok is pretty great
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lombok gives cancer
fallen oracle
Okay, that's fine if you use lombok, but that shouldn't be the first thing they teach people.
worn ember
i was in the vc and couldnt really understand anything he said lol
potent fossil
ok wtf, can I not change the keyboard shortcuts for copy/pasting text in gnome 3
fallen oracle
Because what if they get a job and they can't use it. They won't know what to do.
ancient bolt
that's the worst reason to not teach lombok lol
azure flower
that license file is lol. let me go distribute photoshop because im teaching you howto use photoshop
All the photoshop source code you need surely https://computerhistory.org/blog/adobe-photoshop-source-code/?key=adobe-photoshop-source-code
ancient bolt
no one's going to die because they got a job that doesn't use lombok
you shouldn't teach it because it's another unnecessary dependency that gets in the way
and extremely confusing to new programmers who are seeing that they can call constructors and methods which don't exist and breaks every normal rule
kindred storm
lombok, kangarko, Skript, CMI, Songoda
worn ember
could say the same about bukkit then
stiff yarrow
I worked on an in house app for a company that had lombok and I just unlombok'd it, the company had no devs they just outsourced work when shit went wrong with the app
stiff yarrow
that's part of reflection
stiff yarrow
just go look at the implementation
kindred storm
i have seen it
stiff yarrow
you're comparing a framework to lazy shortcutting
ancient bolt
generating methods for you because you placed an annotation on a class is a totally different beast
yeah nossr explained it better
as usual, better at words
worn ember
laughs in ACF
stiff yarrow
if you guys can't understand the difference then go back to studying 
worn ember
idk i honestly dont see the issue
finite wave
If you wanna be lazy use kotlin
worn ember
if you wanna use lazy be kotlin
finite wave
I mean kotlin also has lazy variables so sure
finite wave
Oh dark knows stuff about kotlin now?
worn ember
i've used kotlin before
ancient bolt
kotlin's lazy variables are not even in the same category
that's like apples and elephants
worn ember
no ones comparing them?
ancient bolt
Jan was
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apples are quite small compared to elephants
stiff yarrow
worn ember
leaves are yuck
finite wave
No, i was talking about kotlin automatically generating getters and setters
stiff yarrow
🙄
ancient bolt
no
stiff yarrow
I'm not even gonna comment
finite wave
Also constructors are much easier, we also got data classes which are like lombok
ancient bolt
- that's not a lazy variable
- kotlin is a different language which supports properties - what it compiles to is irrelevant
worn ember
worn ember
its ok jan, they just got wooshed
finite wave
I cry every day
vernal moth
Demon, how's paperweight going?
ancient bolt
considering kotlin has the concept of lazy initialization built into the language when you say the term "lazy variable", don't be surprised when you're misunderstood
finite wave
That was as a response to dark
ancient bolt
@vernal moth good, lorenz PR is nearly ready to be merged, phase just found a bug though that I looked at
finite wave
My original statement simply said “If you wanna be lazy use kotlin” or smth
ancient bolt
but the merging it's producing for me is 100% perfect, so it's probably something minor
once that's merged I'll go back to focusing on paperweight and start working on patch remapping
finite wave
You said lombok was for lazy people
potent fossil
huh
stiff yarrow
@potent fossil just ignore these disco dinguses
ancient bolt
people who have only ever learned how to code in Java seem to think not writing tons of boilerplate === lazy
ancient bolt
thanks I'm proud of it
stiff yarrow
==== quantum equality
finite wave
Excuse me can there only be one lazy?
ancient bolt
meanwhile C, C++, Rust, Go, JavaScript, TypeScript, PHP, Ruby, Python....fucking Haskell...none of them really need nearly as much boilerplate as Java for doing the same tasks
vernal moth
Sounds good demon
kindred storm
records still coming along
potent fossil
java is very verbose, and a lot of the time i like the verbosity but sometimes I use other langs
and i appreciate them for not being so verbose
:p
ancient bolt
Java's not as verbose as FORTRAN or COBOL though
potent fossil
thankfully im young enough to have been spared
finite wave
Those are the boomer languages right?
vernal moth
Cobol <3
stiff yarrow
#define gang
worn ember
i think those predate the boomers
vernal moth
Cobol I had the best grades in uni, followed by c++ and java was my worst 😂
twin lagoon
mini hangar wen
vernal moth
Am in bed
worn ember
java is my best, and ig that says a lot
finite wave
Lol
ancient bolt
cobol is the "business oriented language" because they thought they were designing a language so simple that business people could just write the software themselves instead of wasting software developers' time
vernal moth
Build this beast for my parents
I don't need a workout, building that is a workout
finite wave
Thats not a bed mini
ancient bolt
Spoiler alert: It's not remotely simple and that goal will never be achieved
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cant wait for aikar to not review my prs by the time i wake up 😳
potent fossil
finite wave
Don’t you have 3-4 async advancement prs open now?
stiff yarrow
worn ember
aikar is busy playing games, leave the man be
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😔
potent fossil
I had this coworker, he was like 72 years old. He would always tell me how he's a programmer, too, but he only knows COBOL. He would tell me how he used to program IBM mainframes for his job, but now he just "sits around all day and plays with Microsoft Access"
I miss that dude
finite wave
Microsoft what
potent fossil
It's a database thingy that's part of MS Office
ancient bolt
I used to work with a dude who was like 60 years old and he didn't know how to do something in git so I told him to open the terminal and I'd show him and he said "I don't use terminals"
finite wave
Should have given him gitkraken then
ancient bolt
gitkraken is git for people who don't understand git
finite wave
Yes
finite wave
What u getting
potent fossil
i just realized that sounds very alcoholic
finite wave
Only if you drink it a bottle at a time in one evening
worn ember
"I don't use terminals"
My kinda guy
potent fossil
but this wine place called nakedwines sent this $100 off thingy in bulk office supplies, so i used it and they give you a box of 10 wines "randomly selected" based on your preference for red/white or both. so
idk what im getting, but i chose "both"
finite wave
Nakedwines
potent fossil
yea lmao
finite wave
Did you buy wine from a brothel
vernal moth
The Cobol ppl we have at work are weird
jolly crown
interesting business name 🤔
finite wave
Let’s see if you like the wine they send you theb
potent fossil
idk, i probably wont sign up to the program. its like a monthly fee, but you get huge discounts on wine
but i dont drink wine that much
10 bottles will last me a long time
lol
finite wave
I’m not 21
potent fossil
kek
finite wave
I’ll just buy it in denmark
My bank gives me vouchers to this https://www.tidtilvin.dk
potent fossil
kek
finite wave
It’s a subscription
worn ember
https://youtu.be/gg6fwbPCCio man i love Randall
finite wave
Isn’t that the theme song of something else
worn ember
dont remember
finite wave
Youtube suddenly recommended me this guy https://youtu.be/YNrFOClrzTA
worn ember
had that too
finite wave
potent fossil
wat u want
finite wave
1.17 in 10 days thx
potent fossil
1.17 in 278 days thx
limber knotBOT
1.17 days eventually thx
finite wave
Heya Granny
limber knotBOT
😡
finite wave
Why you angry
worn ember
arent grannies always mad?
potent fossil
this is disgusting but mesmerizing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoJ-DzLTvxE
worn ember
why does he look like big smoke
zealous knot
Oh hey you found my channel
finite wave
You wish fix
twin lagoon
badlangschugs & eatdatpussy445 are the peak of youtube
zealous knot
I don't, actually
potent fossil
he literally posted a video titled "big smoke eats ..."
finite wave
You've got worse boobs than that dude
twin lagoon
https://owo.whats-th.is/3mf1fh4.png?_raw=true notifications like this are what i live for
finite wave
Nice
zealous knot
lmfao
potent fossil
jesus lmao
he orders 4 big mac MEALS
dude goes "what size"
large
drink?
strawberry shake for EACH OF THEM
anything else?
uh...mcchicken
and a smoothie. lmao
zealous knot
oh hey i saw this thumbnail in my recommended
worn ember
literally dying for the fame
olive patio
doesnt the guy hold the world record for longest burp
potent fossil
https://i.imgur.com/uNjvGRW.png
professional eater indeed
thorny rivet
maybe a dangerous question but is someone here an ex-sponge dev or playing with the idea of deving with sponge instead of bukkit?
It feels like I could write plugins like with bukkit but having the extra benefit of being able to deploy forge mods with it
potent fossil
yeah he raced someone to eat 30 white castle sliders
he did it in 5 minutes lol
yeah matt is a fucking boss
twin lagoon
@zealous knot they have always been a thing
they're very commonly found
these scams have existed for ages
potent fossil
GOD DAMN that first big mac was gone like that
worn ember
@thorny rivet i tried sponge for a bit but didnt commit to yet, it seems promissing but i'm waiting for their rewrite to dive into it
zealous knot
yeah but 99% of the time they have 8 viewers, sometimes the scammers buy viewers so suddenly there's a stream with 28 k viewers
i didn't look for that stream
it was recommended to me
thorny rivet
maybe wrong formulation @worn ember I meant writing plugins with it
twin lagoon
matt stonie is insane aswell yeah
worn ember
yes i know
potent fossil
i am really jealous of matt for being able to eat like that and stay fit. im sure he has his regimen tho
twin lagoon
@zealous knot it's worse than that lol
they're legit buying yt ads
so it shows up as regular yt ads for people
thorny rivet
ah okay, so you're commited, I thought you wanted to commit to the project
So they rewrite their API or the backend stuff?
potent fossil
bruh my ups driver was right near my house then he went around me and is now driving away from me on the freeway
worn ember
ktnbye
finite wave
Hah, he probably drank the wine
potent fossil
i ordered 9 books and im getting 5 distinct deliveries
potent fossil
its bc like, 4 pairs of books are in 4 different states, and then the last book is in yet another state
so each location is individually shipping 1 or 2 books lmao
worn ember
lies
worn ember
jan sends some questionable stuff in my dm's
queen moat
https://i.imgur.com/AsU4tor.png Do you guys think these specs are too shitty for a minecraft server?
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what the fuck
finite wave
eh
queen moat
With 200-300 players
finite wave
Our dms looks fine ded
queen moat
Bro I have no fuckin clue about dedicated servers
granite salmon
10GHz should do it
jolly crown
lmao
worn ember
dont xD
granite salmon
can anything hold 200-300 for a 1.16 survival?
worn ember
sure, if you freeze them
slim nymph
no lol, not even the damn forks
queen moat
Is 1.16 just that immensely shitty?
twin lagoon
no
granite salmon
well i think that will happen without you doing anything, ded 😂
finite wave
Chew is teaching bukkit in voicechat
limber knotBOT
hi aker
finite wave
if you want to learn
limber knotBOT
indeed
slim nymph
yes and survival in general is
twin lagoon
no version of mc will run properly on that server
slim nymph
not if you let players do survival shit barty
finite wave
Just remove all entities and hoppers and some more stuff.
slim nymph
dude i have servers melting at 10 players even
queen moat
My Paper anarchy server is taxed at 40
twin lagoon
just depends on what your fork does lol
shell vine
just remove entities and redstone
shell vine
and growth
limber knotBOT
it helps me hold my taco up
shell vine
and players
slim nymph
id love to see yall pull off a server that allows farms, crazy redstone and hit 200 players
queen moat
Are there any other forks for better 1.16 efficiency?
slim nymph
with 5-10k entities+
granite salmon
yes, but they won't achieve what you want i don't think, ether
twin lagoon
even 100 players is impressive tbh
slim nymph
you tell people they cant build farms?
shell vine
u will cap at 1 player if they use crazy redstone
finite wave
Proxi just ported eigencraft
queen moat
My hardcore server has 40 people, with ~100 players in queue to join the hardcore when a spot opens
twin lagoon
multi-threaded entities 
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@twin lagoon hi xx
slim nymph
still entities is the hugest issue with survival, and barely any fork does much to help there either
twin lagoon
oh right proxi's working on async pathfinding aswell
queen moat
I'm brand new to server hosting, all I know is we're being ripped off by our actual server host
potent fossil
what is 'ripped off'
slim nymph
i guess leafs movemnt stuff might there
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its probably not gonna turn out too well :')
twin lagoon
our fork has async entity tracking / pathfinding aswell, no idea how it works but it's there
queen moat
because it's a tiktok™️ server
olive patio
damn
granite salmon
pog
potent fossil
@mystic solar why are you adding me
slim nymph
the fuck did you do cut their brain out?
queen moat
Why do 1.8 servers run so much better?
twin lagoon
they're older
queen moat
and that's a good thing?
finite wave
They are not high on coke
twin lagoon
less features
slim nymph
doesnt have mojangs rewrites
queen moat
Is mojang ever going to completely redo the server code
worn ember
less features = less stuff to fuck up ig
twin lagoon
no
slim nymph
everytime mojang tries to improve stuff, they make it 10x worse
finite wave
Atleast they are trying
twin lagoon
slim nymph
well when stop trying is the best thing you can do to be better, your failing
queen moat
and erh- I don't know the logistics of this, but I'm curious why no one has attempted to write a minecraft server in another language
slim nymph
were at the point.... notch did better
granite salmon
they have
slim nymph
and thats sad
queen moat
Did it not go well?
twin lagoon
there's plenty of attempts ether
there's no interest in them
why would anyone port their shit over to a different language
requires new developers, lots of $
granite salmon
a lot of things are stuck in 1.12 too
worn ember
rehire notch
slim nymph
fuckthat
queen moat
I mean, if it's in a lower level / different language that might come with a lot of performance improvements
kindred storm
no
worn ember
not this again
finite wave
Notch probably won't even consider coming back lol
slim nymph
the language isnt the issue
twin lagoon
there's plenty of optimizations to be made on java
kindred storm
this is the "Minecraft bad cuz Java bad" thing again
slim nymph
and 99.999% of this community is gone in C++
queen moat
No I'm not saying Java's the cause
shell vine
can you even mod that easily
worn ember
are you part of that 0.001% aikar?
finite wave
Will probably end up with lua or smth
kindred storm
the argument doesn't hold up. You can write efficient Java and inefficient programs in other language. And vice-versa
queen moat
But a language without a VM would be inherently more efficient for the task, no?
kindred storm
Not really
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yes, you can get good performance from a lower level language
no, its not a magic fix
slim nymph
no
finite wave
Java can run quite fast
twin lagoon
eh, wouldn't say just as fast
worn ember
its only better if you microoptimize it
twin lagoon
but it's fast enough
granite salmon
blame mojang if anyone :))
olive patio
doesnt c++ not even have a garbage collector
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the optimisations to be done in java can make it run the server at 20tps and hundreds of players just fine, it just requires the same smart minds in java instead of smart minds in XYZ
twin lagoon
@minor badge 🥺
slim nymph
correct, you manage memory
queen moat
They have smart pointers
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@twin lagoon 🥺
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java can and does allocate memory faster than C or C++ will ever be able to
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.g feather-rs
slim nymph
no we need java with competent developers
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/feather-rs/feather -- feather-rs/feather: A Minecraft server implementation in...: "git clone https://github.com/feather-rs/feather cd feather cargo build --release. Compiling from source requires Java JDK 8 and rustfmt . The server..."
twin lagoon
active competent developers
finite wave
cute
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nothing will beat threadlocal regions where memory allocation is literally incrementing a pointer
kindred storm
language was never the issue
twin lagoon
otherwise you'll have patches to remove each version because no one maintains them
queen moat
Are there any forks of minecraft that utilize more of the server's power? ie other cores
twin lagoon
forks? no
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and C and C++ can't do that because they can't pass around a pointer to the current thread on every function call
twin lagoon
there's 1 active multi-threaded minecraft server software, not using the bukkit api
not sure what it's called
finite wave
Hmmm
kindred storm
100% Thread-Safe
slim nymph
which is missing parts of the game lol
shell vine
well if its not bukkit, it might be not a lie 😛
finite wave
1 thread per entity pls.
queen moat
oh yes beautiful
granite salmon
just say 99.99% thread safe instead, problem solved.
queen moat
more resources taken to just dropping and picking up items then them just existing
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sounds like 90% of server owners thinking more threads = more performance, jan
ancient bolt
not always wrong tbh
kindred storm
just run everything async
stiff yarrow
The main difference is that our implementation of the Notchian server does not contain any features by default! However, we have a complete API which allows you to make anything possible with current spigot plugins.``` someone translate what this meansi mean properly throwing more threads at things might improve performance
ancient bolt
my guess is mini-game servers remove most vanilla mechanics in favor of their own
slim nymph
there is no survival
twin lagoon
if you're not running survival
ancient bolt
so instead this just has the base engine so you implement your own mechanics
queen moat
Where do people actually find the minecraft server source code to do those custom forks and stuff? I've never actually looked
stiff yarrow
Oh I get it
twin lagoon
paper @queen moat
twin lagoon
or well
spigot, paper etc all just decompile the jar, remap the jar with spigot's mappings & apply patches
ancient bolt
best view of the minecraft sourcecode right now is mcp
queen moat
Ahh
ancient bolt
most complete & sane mappings
stiff yarrow
@queen moat decompiling the binary
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what about mojang mappings
twin lagoon
personal usage only
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those are pretty good for a view of src
ancient bolt
you can use forge gradle with mojang mappings, so that would technically be the most complete view
queen moat
imagine if minecraft was open sourced :(
potent fossil
ah i quite like that, no more cancelling annoying events. just don't use them lmao
finite wave
Doesnt fabric also allow it?
finite wave
It was super easy to set up
ancient bolt
it's hard to be worse than forgegradle so I have high hopes
finite wave
I had a much better experience with fabric shit than forgegradle
ancient bolt
I'm not referring to the user experience, more worried about what's going on in the background
finite wave
Oh, no clue it works tho
potent fossil
I asked why you wanted to friend me
You didn't reply, so I denied it
I don't accept random requests, have a reason or don't friend me lol
finite wave
Simp i have no reason so i will send you a friend request, prepare.
potent fossil
but that's a reason right there
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@potent fossil thanks for accepting my fr hon
potent fossil
ur special tho proxi
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🤧
fallen oracle
😍
shell vine
unreal quarry
Yup. That's how you get yourself banned @mystic solar
finite wave
I've seen worse with spongebob
worthy slate
Random curiosity. Why do I only see Minecraft 1.8.x+ and never 1.7.x or prior?
finite wave
ignorance does not excuse you from the rules
finite wave
nty
tired heath
What is that streaming used for. Soft coding porn?
tired heath
Bad
finite wave
Is that celcius?
twin lagoon
yes
twin lagoon
already am
finite wave
gj
tired heath
Wait where is it?
twin lagoon
NL
knotty rose
well i was at the street with 40º some days ago...
tired heath
Will it affect me in Austria
Prob few days later
:(
My head hurts, my car mechanic is still on holiday, even if he made an appointment for today to perform the anual saefty check. And I have to test a plugin in 6 to 8 Minecraft versions this night
How is your day so long?
tawny depot
Hello from france, i have a little question, what is the difference between the ./paper jar command and ./paper build command, from the source, thanks
finite wave
Have you done ./paper help ?
finite wave
Lol what
potent fossil
from what i can tell
"j" | "jar")
(
set -e
cd "$basedir"
scripts/build.sh "$basedir" "--jar" || exit 1
) || failed=1
;;
"b" | "build")
(
set -e
cd "$basedir"
scripts/build.sh "$basedir" || exit 1
(cd Paper-API ; mvn clean install) || exit 1
(cd Paper-Server ; mvn clean package) || exit 1
echo "Paper jar successfully built"
ls -la Paper-Server/target/paper*.jar
) || failed=1
;;
viral hornet
@twin lagoon 🥺
potent fossil
yea
twin lagoon
build creates the paper jars only without paperclip
viral hornet
I gave him the go ahead at 2PM yesterday, so now we wait
also michael why don't you ever come and speak 🥺
twin lagoon
camm 
finite wave
potent fossil
🥺 👉 👈
viral hornet
fallen oracle
After a long hard day of packing, a vodka cran does the trick.
potent fossil
👀
worn ember
glare be packing 👀
fallen oracle
Just for you, Simple.
potent fossil
oh yeah 🤤
grand pewter
rare herald
Mmm
worn ember
why is there a crayon in there
tawny depot
Another question, so paperclip is an utility that can launch the ./paper.jar for you ?
grand pewter
yeah its like a classic american crayon
rare herald
why is there a crayon in there
Gotta give the vodka some flavour somehow
fallen oracle
It's a vodka cran, duh.
finite wave
paperclip patches the mojang jar with the paper/spigot changes after downloading the mojang jar.
worn ember
give it flavor with your tears
rare herald
What if my tears are already vodka?
fallen oracle
Lucky man
finite wave
Get some help
fallen oracle
Free alc
worn ember
no one:
steam on tuesday:
finite wave
nice
worn ember
why do they need to do maintenance on EVERY service EVERY week
are they running windows or something smh
weekly updates
finite wave
They gotta reboot to fix their memory leaks
worn ember
my neighbors dog is snoring so loud i can hear him through the window...
finite wave
Sure that’s not just your own breathing?
worn ember
obviously
finite wave
tawny depot
so @finite wave thanks, but the thing is i'm working on pimping the Spigot-Server/src/ and i dont know what to do to got spigot to compile the binary Paper 1.15.2-R01-SNAPSHOT for me without changing my work
waxen panther
tawny depot
replace all spigot with paper
and this is it
and to get spigot to compile* sorry
paper*
finite wave
go to paper-parent module and run mvn package
fallen oracle
https://streamable.com/xmmoa7
This shouldn't be NSFW but it's a new angle I haven't seen before of the explosion this morning. You can see fireworks going off inside the smoke cloud.
warm anchor
@fallen oracle my friend was playing dota and he was just within the danger zone. He continues to play 
worn ember
cant risk low prio
warm anchor
lol
knotty rose
The gunpowder storage tank? i guess tank is the right word exploded
potent fossil
stop plagiarizing then smh
vagrant niche
Add accents to some letters
potent fossil
Make up your own constructed language, make all your professors learn to speak it, and then turn your reports in with that.
vagrant niche
Write a different report entirely about how turnitin is detrimental to your education
Better then 0
But you would've a point
twin lagoon
serverstatistics api
nocturne agate
Whats best place to buy a cheap domain?
twin lagoon
porkbun
vagrant niche
Better hurry before other folks submit theirs
Lmao, just submit it with 100%
Just translate it to Russian
vagrant niche
at a temperature that will make your nips hard
cosmic raft
serene bolt
yeah :\ they want your life to an amazon lifestyle lol
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amazon
worn ember
buying on amazon
golden gust
god, you think that's bad, try sky
My flatmate sticks on a movie and there is literally 2 minutes+ of ads
and the worse part is that the app crashes soooo much on the darned thing
vagrant niche
stiff yarrow
I'm glad that with a Smart TV in america you can avoid ads pretty well
stiff yarrow
real question is why am I watching a guy watch this
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wtf is that
vagrant niche
A very powerful test rocket that will one days be capable of carrying ur mum to space
Send spotteds mum to Jupiter
That should add enough mass to start a star
vestal jasper
I GOT IN.
Turning on my right monitor. Turning off my left. Turning off my right. Turning it back on. Then turning my left monitor on caused it to stop flickering.
it's being a bit fucky overall though
my wallpaper is missing
settings won't load 🤔
there we go, closing and reopening fixed
worn ember
smells like linux
serene bolt
I've been on Windows 10 LTSC for like 3 years now, only security updates... I love it
I truly do not care about the latest features, I'd rather have something that's stable and not going to break every time I reboot and wait a few years for features
oh yeah, did you fix the mipmaps?
yeah it looked a lot better from what I noticed, or at least I thought so
vestal jasper
on the bright side i can use wsl2 now
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> wsl --set-default-version 2
For information on key differences with WSL 2 please visit https://aka.ms/wsl2
PS C:\WINDOWS\system32>
serene bolt
yeah I'm still stuck with WSL1, better than no WSL I guess :P
vestal jasper
I wouldn't advise updating for it
you'll end up like me
nearly bricking your system and unsure if it'll even reach the login screen next boot
serene bolt
yeah no thanks lmao, I use my PC for productivity not for being microsofts tester
vestal jasper
because windows haha
mfw start menu icons are missing too
gj windows
I hope next update doesn't break more shit
serene bolt
narrator: it would go on to do exactly the same thing once again
sharp sentinel
So with the whole CurseForge/Overwolf stuff, does anyone know if there's actually a support location now?
There used to be an old IRC channel ages ago, but AFAIK it's not an active support location anymore
worn ember
no clue
jagged swift
Idk if this is the place but would anyone be able to help me out with a regex text replacement argument?
Literally trying to make a regex argument for VentureChat, where it replaces 'vary' with 'very'
But the problem I'm having is I need it to catch every instance, so spacing, underscores, characters between, color codes, caps e.t.c
worn ember
why not just use contains and replaceall?
jagged swift
I don't understand regex at all is my problem lol, and this isn't a really pressing issue, was just on the off chance that someone here does know it
jagged swift
I want to apply it with VentureChat, which uses regex
worn ember
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11697483/regexp-regular-expression-find-replace-whole-words-only could take a look at this
limber knotBOT
serene bolt
yeah I got that last night
limber knotBOT
Amount of Payments: Class Members who submit a Valid Claim may receive a pro rata share of the Net Settlement Fund up to a cash payment of $12.00 depending on the number of claimants.
hell yeah, $12
If you submit a Valid Claim by October 8, 2020, you may receive a payment. You will also give up your rights to sue Google and/or any other released entities regarding the legal claims in this case.
but we owe them our rights
serene bolt
not worth $12
limber knotBOT
but
If you do nothing, you will not receive any payment. You will be bound by the Settlement’s terms and will lose the right to sue Google and/or any other released entities regarding the legal claims in this case.
however, This is the only option that allows you to sue Google and/or other released parties on your own regarding the legal claims in this case. You will not receive a payment from the Settlement. The deadline for excluding yourself is October 8, 2020.
(Opt Out of the Settlement)
serene bolt
yeah but I'll still have to give my info to someone for $12 to receive the payment
worn ember
selling personal data for $12 seems fair
limber knotBOT
it's not clear
ohh a group of people are suing google over a bug
Google denies Plaintiffs’ allegations, denies any wrongdoing and any liability whatsoever, and believes that no Class Members, including the Plaintiffs, have sustained any damages or injuries due to the software bugs.
fallen oracle
$12 is $12
limber knotBOT
i can get that and more for -- nvm
serene bolt
correct, $12 is $12 worth of uncrustables to glare
shell vine
thats like two double quarter pounders 
silk valley
Does anyone know which version of FastAsyncWorldEdit to use on Paper 1.15.2?
I tried latest, but I'm getting this error: com.sk89q.worldedit.bukkit.adapter.impl.FAWE_Spigot_v1_16_R1 is not custom candidate.
Seems like maybe that version is only for Paper 1.16
shell vine
it still works with that error
pulsar wigeon
fawe spewing random errors everywhere which may or may not result in it actually working or not is basically par for the course
your best is to actually test it and hope you don't end up missing random chunks everywhere randomly
or just to not use it at all :^)
grand pewter
imagine using fawe
limber knotBOT
hi pop
grand pewter
hi
limber knotBOT
owo
serene bolt
that was the longest dinner I have ever experienced, pop
limber knotBOT
4 hour dinner
grand pewter
ah i didnt hop back on because no one was there when i got back
limber knotBOT
i was there for like 3 hours