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#general
shell vine
limber knotBOT
defending FAWE
shell vine
oh wait the text is missing wtf thats not the one i saw
and yea i mean do you want your server to crash every time someone does a big edit or not, as a server owner gotta make decisions like that
limber knotBOT
i just use asyncworldedit...
shell vine
which is just a bunch of small edits basically, im not saying that one is bad but its noticeable speed difference
serene bolt
I generally don't build anything large on my production server anyways, so worldedit is fine for me
but on build servers where we build events, spawn, etc i've always used asyncworldedit
serene bolt
I'm far too sketched out to run stuff like FAWE or even AWE on my production servers tbh
shell vine
https://gyazo.com/0445d848dbca3efdc86926c2b26c4c2a
https://gyazo.com/a23ba96b4dc9de3da1fb26c9096a0973
serene bolt
mighty storm
shell vine
you used the meme arrow, inferring that what I was doing was silly
limber knotBOT
if I had set "imagine defending FAWE" that would defo be a guideline violation spotted
> this is meme arrow
this is just quoting
shell vine
seems to me you are just using that as an exscuse!
limber knotBOT
:O
grand pewter
im not harrassing a person
the plugin itself is just a meme
but like people are going to use it for creative plot servers or something because they value the async stuff > safety which is a perfectly fine choice
limber knotBOT
you guys are running servers with players??
limber knotBOT
i use essentials
grand pewter
whats that
cunning raft
Idk some Chunky clone
limber knotBOT
chonker
shell vine
is it like CMI? 
limber knotBOT
see? meye
shell vine
sturdy fulcrum
Where’s Barty
mighty storm
@spare venture
shell vine
im not memeing barty directly tho so no ban pls 😚
sturdy fulcrum
Must be past bed time
trim steeple
is there a way to turn off anti-xray for some players?
limber knotBOT
mommy told him to go to bed
trim steeple
hard to be an admin like this haha
limber knotBOT
woah
sturdy fulcrum
Zzz
hallow swallow
Anyone knows why ppl cant fish?
sturdy fulcrum
Haters gonna hate. Last meat I handled was great
hallow swallow
yeah
exacly that barty
I did
to latest
but still
i use flamecord
and no one else has this issue
on the latest
shell vine
this isnt flamecord discord 👀
potent fossil
travertine that fixes 'netty exploits'
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i believe so
good because i dont know
.g how old is minecraft 1.7.10 today
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.howoldisminecraft1710.today/ -- How old is Minecraft 1.7.10 today?: "Minecraft 1.7.10 is 6 years, 1 months, and 8 days old today."
waxen panther
fallen oracle
Grape or Strawberry
fallen oracle
vagrant niche
k
quartz peak
You know how paper keeps logs in text form to look back at what happened that day or any day is that possible for a discord bot?
vestal jasper
Whoever you are, reminder to
pacman -Rcns $(pacman -Qdtq):3
@potent fossil wait is that a system brick command lol
cedar spade
"it no work on my kubuntu instal"
plush fox
ubuntu
void void
anyone dealt with world loading topic lately? not very fond of inconsistent load times between 10-300ms >_>
finite wave
On startup?
void void
nah
void world, no spawn chunks loading, whatsoever
Loading world 'xxx' took 118ms
Loading world 'xxx' took 27ms
no entities either
oh well time to pull out a profiler then i guess
storage shouldn't be slow either - using tmpfs for testing
grand pewter
same chunk?
vagrant niche
@static badge wak up
grand pewter
like does the exact same chunk load with different times or what
void void
x 0 z 0 to be specific even
grand pewter
and whatre you using to measure this
void void
rn logging is doine using System.nanoTime()
and spark tickprofiler is running, logs about tps drops as well
i mean clearly not very precise but average ~120ms causes quite noticeable tps drop in busy server
grand pewter
yeah i wouldnt know but that sounds pretty bad
does it happen on spigot cause paper has the whole chunk priority thing right
void void
should try
grand pewter
yeah cause itd be good to know if it's an isolated issue or not
with all the shit built up around world loading
void void
spigot does it worse
+200ms
buut leaf's fork can do it 25ms consistently 
heh, now i have a reason to use it
grave oxide
What does leaf's fork different with loading chunks?
zealous knot
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) [Rant... sorta] Physically moved a server today... : sysadmin - 249 comments, 922 points - the_mattman86, 8h ago
spice finch
vagrant niche
lol
waxen panther
yucky weeb
waxen panther
@worn ember 
worn ember
wide chasm
@plush fox Please don't crosspost messages
plush fox
ok
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hi stef
wide chasm
Hey Proxi
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how's your day going
wide chasm
Fine, how about yours?
worn ember
@latent valve ew techies player
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pretty good, thank u
waxen panther
What’s it gunna take to get stef an avatar
finite wave
Isn't the red discord logo his avatar?
quasi valley
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you can't be bothered by it if you just use irc mode, brocc :)
waxen panther
I’m not boring enough for compact mode sorry
Maybe in 10 years when I have a shit job and I hate life I’ll switch
quasi valley
only flextape can save her now
waxen panther
zealous wedge
some of us need colours to tell people apart proxi
and all this shitty platform gives us are avatars
minor badge
no u dont . .. .
stiff yarrow
stef is one of the few people using default avatars so I just associate him with that
waxen panther
words hard avatar easy
potent fossil
Wtf @vestal jasper no
vestal jasper
what does it do
potent fossil
It's essentially pacmans version of apt clean
It removes stuff that doesn't need to be installed. I.e. not used by any other package and not explicitly installed (was installed by a package, not by you, and now it's not being used)
zealous wedge
proxi no 😦
minor badge
yes
worn ember
O,..,O
zealous wedge
do u actually read the letters in people's names?
vernal moth
I got a new favorite quote I can use at work
"Lead the way, get behind me, or get the fuck out of the way"
Or "People who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it"
topaz mortar
"It cannot be done" is just another description of "The time it costs exeeds the useage"
kindred storm
No, it just means "It cannot be done"
vernal moth
Or it's "I don't believe you can do it"
Or "my mind is so locked that I am unable to think outside of the box"
Or "I am an idiot"
Also, I just found this gem, https://twitter.com/jc_stubbs/status/1289199296328298497
(read the thread)
void void
damn i really need to start working on orion again, cannot be arsed to deal with the pain of patches
patching fork of fork of fork of fork of fork of paper
yum
ok i over-exaggerated but this feels dumb already
vagrant niche
lol very proffesional
void void
tbfh could pr to paper to make this feature available on the project i intend to modify, but it kinda breaks api
setting block strength that is
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unsafevalues 😎
void void
wdym
fallen oracle
Interesting. So Ninja went back to Twitch? I thought he said he was never going.
wide chasm
Wasn't he on Mixer? Cause Mixer is now dead, so...
fallen oracle
Yeah, I think he went to YouTube I believe.
spice finch
Didn't he want to open his own streaming platform?
fallen oracle
Really not sure. Idk. Pulling 100K and been live for 10 minutes, lol.
Twitch pulled his partnership so he can't make money from it.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
zealous wedge
what looks homeless abt that
minor badge
all of it
limber knotBOT
$200 bandana and $100 haircut, definitely isn't homeless
not to mention the who knows how many hundred dollar headphones which make every homeless look hipster the second they put them on ;)
minor badge
sadly the price does not mean it looks decent at all
golden gust
can confirm
Proxi spends a lot of dollar tryna look pretti
She'd still scare anybody in a dark alley
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😔
zealous wedge
that's what happens when you let her have knives
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hey theyre just for ✨aesthetics✨
zealous wedge
ah yes, you're just carrying that sword around for the aesthetic
zealous wedge
ok swords gay
zealous wedge
yes
worn ember
the fuk
limber knotBOT
sword lesbians
cedar spade
wat
quasi valley
wot
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.reddit.com/r/swordlesbians/ -- Sword Lesbians: "Mar 14, 2019 ... r/swordlesbians: This is a subreddit for lesbians, bisexuals, pans, aces and all lovely wlw with an interesting, albeit slightly..."
latent valve
Hahhaahahahahahahahahahahaha
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
phew?
finite wave
I was so scared right there
waxen panther
Bing is too innocent dw
waxen panther
mode: strict
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) What is a sword lesbian? : actuallesbians - 14 comments, 11 points - alittleelephant, 2y ago
quasi valley
Example: "I am a sword lesbian" " Cool, I'm a knife bisexual!"
limber knotBOT
I mean I dunno about you all but I would let any sword queer kill me
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🥺👉👈
twin lagoon
worn ember
egg
finite wave
I was expecting some wild shit
worn ember
double sided sword
worn ember
i have
waxen panther
nope
worn ember
well they looked lesbian so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
close enough
i mean, if you walk around with a shirt with "lesbian" on it, its quite obvious
zealous wedge
"anymore" is doing some heavy lifting there
twin lagoon
minor badge
as sword lesbian implies, lesbians exist in all varities
twin lagoon
why is installing XF2 so slow
waxen panther
Idk I walk around with a lot of shirts that don’t represent me
zealous wedge
why is installing XF2 so slow
@twin lagoon don't install it on a potato
twin lagoon
it's on a 2288G
zealous wedge
I propose we replace all usage of master with "daddy"
cedar spade
I wear a lot of check shirts but I'm not Czech
waxen panther
Michael do u wanna buy me a server
twin lagoon
no
cedar spade
zml: squash into daddy
waxen panther
toxic
cedar spade
merge me daddy
waxen panther
free 😳
zealous wedge
1 month free trial != free
worn ember
inb4 min lease time 5 months
zealous wedge
misleading advertising barty
granite salmon
UK is declaring war
epic
zealous wedge
can we get a scammer role for barty
waxen panther
Uks army is about as threatening as a sword of soap
zealous wedge
come on barty do you not want the Canadian experience
void void
zealous wedge
oops
worn ember
packetception
merry talon
i have 2fa on my 2fa
finite wave
Same my 2fa is stored in my password manager which requires 2fa
worn ember
that does look sick
vernal moth
the website is kinda horrible UX wise tho
twin lagoon
true
waxen panther
It do be sexy tho
void void
beauty needs sacrifice
worn ember
blind people dont need to see globes anyway 
void void
wow ded
waxen panther
void void
just. wow. ur a visionist
worn ember
😢
void void
mooods
waxen panther
moderators someone is being mean 
vernal moth
but ye, its amazing what webgl can do nowadays
waxen panther
@vestal jasper
worn ember
i actually have a blind dude in my year, and he asked me for directions once, and i unknowingly send him the wrong way cuz i thought he meant something else
im a horrible person
waxen panther
@vestal jasper
vestal jasper
Mods he's pinging me
worn ember
you're not noteable anyway
waxen panther
mods please !!
vernal moth
1.16.2 prerelease 2 today \o/
vestal jasper
Ur not notable
worn ember
so i am table?
vestal jasper
Yes
worn ember
very cool
void void
ded flat as a table 
vestal jasper
Barty I spent 5 hours bug fixing carbon
worn ember
wow stop judging me barty
worn ember
does vic work for Post?
vestal jasper
Post?
worn ember
Malone
vestal jasper
Oh
worn ember
barty
vestal jasper
Oic
zealous wedge
no, vic is still pre malone
worn ember
ah i see
vestal jasper
No I just have a plugin he's interested in
Which is in development hell
It's like 98% stable now tho
zealous wedge
what isn't in development hell
hallow swallow
does anyone know how to update upstream on bungee?
worn ember
hallow swallow
yes
bungee fork
so it fixes the fishing rod problem
but the upsteam can be updated
how?
If they knew till today, they would fixed it
thats why i ask do you know how to do it?
cedar spade
Do you have the source code for it?
worn ember
make the pr yourself
cedar spade
If not, good luck
hallow swallow
Beacuse they dont know how
minor badge
they dont know how to run 1 command?
kindred storm
They're not competent fork builders.
kindred storm
You should not buy into such a fork if the authors don't even know how to update upstream.
Well, Velocity is better anyway and doesn't have so many problems as BungeeCord
slim nymph
sadly everyone tries to do so much shit on bungee levelt hat really belongs at server level, then they cant move to velocity due to missing plugins
shrewd dirge
Is it normal for Dynmap to keep rendering after my map is full?
slim nymph
me, i keep proxies super simple, so i can move, i just need to do some small refactoring
@shrewd dirge ys dynmap is live, it rerenders for updates
but the default events are pretty trigger happy, stuff like loading chunks renders, you can turn those off
.dynmap
limber knotBOT
Optimize (Reduce) dynmaps load on your server: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-15-server-performance-help.431154/#post-3776848
slim nymph
theres my dynmap config
shrewd dirge
Perfect tyvm
slim nymph
dynmap has like no load impact on my server
shrewd dirge
Gotcha. I'm just gonna cancel the current fullrender job and adjust settings
slim nymph
the render triggers with # in front of them are the "disabled" ones
is a comment
notable one is disabling player movemnt...
void void
can u guys spam my dms
quasi valley
ah yes, coming here to advertise 
wide chasm
@hardy moth Please don't advertise.
cedar spade
brb advertising my server to other server owners in the hope they join my server
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@cedar spade 🥺👉👈
quasi valley
I think proxi wants to put you on pizza, be careful
cedar spade
I already am
spice finch
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pinapl belongs on pizza
quasi valley
no u
quasi valley
knene
cedar spade
go fill out the survey already
quasi valley
I did, pah
cedar spade
go... idk what else to suggest
quasi valley
I'll just go cry in the corner then
cedar spade
@quasi valley minimessage bug fixes wen
cedar spade
yes
quasi valley
just wrong
cedar spade
just right
quasi valley
@cedar spade hangar wen
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@quasi valley uwu
quasi valley
no u
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pls
quasi valley
elfin kraken
What do you guys think about this paper fork?
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
spice finch
uhuhu, not funny
quasi valley
lol was smart enough to look at the embed on irc
spice finch
kenny, are you sacrificing that much not to get rickrolled?
twin lagoon
quasi valley
was in the browser anyways, to was essentially just a single click and look
elfin kraken
What are you doing here @spice finch
spice finch
english
quasi valley
sounds like kangarko is having a midlife crisis?
spice finch
Mineacademy down?
fallen oracle
Wait is that a legit email?
vernal moth
@ kennytv minimessage bug fixes wen
@cedar spade lmao
cedar spade
let me guess, it's a story about how he built himself back up and so can you with a purchase of Project Onion
intellij you okay?
twin lagoon
.g 5 inconvenient truths about being a ceo
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.aascu.org/corporatepartnership/McKinseyReport2.pdf -- The Inconvenient Truth about Change Management_May 08.indd: "Aug 14, 2000 ... Where we have tested these inconvenient truths in practice versus more rational ... a global consumer goods company the CEO brought..."
twin lagoon
f
quasi valley
already compiled smh
twin lagoon
quasi valley
have to start the client first 😂
cedar spade
kmemeytv wat
0/10 not enough time travel via releases
"where is viarewind for 1.16.3"
quasi valley
ah come on they bumped the protocol ver by 2 again
cedar spade
rip
quasi valley
MC-196743 - Custom/modified biomes don’t work in the Overworld
quasi valley
aaand the dimension registry changed again
worn ember
https://i.imgur.com/ZdFTHdP.gif literal programming god
vernal moth
rip uni stuff
quasi valley
yes very much rip, was in the middle of watching a lecture video 😂
worn ember
my program has RGB support
vernal moth
well, "RGB"
worn ember
well its not wrong
quasi valley
they removed something from the chunk packet huh
cedar spade
that's not RGB support, that RGaB support
quasi valley
didn't generate sources, so good thing minimappingsviewer is a thing :D
zealous wedge
it does support red, green, and blue
cedar spade
red, green and blue
void void
.try
limber knotBOT
void void
Best video ever done
cedar spade
not as good as the https://offlinemo.de website
void void
*The guy who asked for support 4 his offline srv on minecraft's discord*
please read
lol
wide chasm
Lol that video, Michael "I think we can grow to 8-9 figure level"
mental meadow
PayPal srsly hasn't reached 2020 yet. You really have to delete your old account and create a new one if you move to a different country. gg all my invoices and abonements
cedar spade
paypal only recently added support for authenticator apps proper
fallen oracle
Yeah, that new 2FA using your saliva is pretty cool.
worn ember
why would they
cedar spade
previously you had to use a workaround where you generated a fake serial number for a handheld authenticator device, then give that serial number to paypal
worn ember
they have no competition
zealous wedge
they have national competition, but nothing international
hallow swallow
anyone knows alternative to this plugin?
beaucuse on that the dev is crap that doesnt give any support
cedar spade
manually sending titles?
cedar spade
👀
worn ember
lmao
finite wave
Rubba already replied nice.
mortal zinc
worn ember
@finite wave I got my connections ;)
trim oracle
Wow I would've taken my reply as thst being a troll thread
I always make jokes about coding in ms paint (not ms paint ide)
wicked remnant
I have been summoned 
worn ember
👀
wicked remnant
And @trim oracle those jokes on spigot is what inspired it lol
latent valve
@worn ember wtf enchantress IMPETUS change to skill 1 that soooo 
didnt notice that till today lol
latent valve
Ok f this they got techie
worn ember
:))
finite wave
Why
limber knotBOT
ms paint ide wtf lmao
tired heath
limber knotBOT
ya
Whether the feedback from commands executed by a player should show up in chat. Also affects the default behavior of whether command blocks store their output text
bukkit commands don't have the same concept if a
so likely just /minecraft: stuff
*of a ServerCommandSource
quasi valley
inb4 give me admin on bartyrealms
left swift
grand pewter
me pure kenny and md were all on last night
limber knotBOT
and me
grand pewter
were you on the server?
quasi valley
only pop was
grand pewter
well not really
quasi valley
he's lying
left swift
Griefers
grand pewter
the only issue was tia really wanted me to be banned because i was chatting via the chat
limber knotBOT
ad spotted
left swift
Fartyrealms
peak ginkgo
Opinions on plugins in Kotlin? 
finite wave
They are fine
quasi valley
finite wave
But people will be like: https://i.imgur.com/a2Arp2K.png
quasi valley
only crazy people like proxi or jan use kotlin
finite wave
I even fucking minimized that jar, he should be happy it isn't more than 3mb
spice finch
I use kotlin too 
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wtf are u doing to get a THREE mb jar with kotlin
spice finch
Definatly better than java
finite wave
Isn't stdlib like 2-3mb
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@quasi valley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbtZv3dI6xc 
scala's stdlib is HUGE, jan
peak ginkgo
Scala is massive
quasi valley
yes it's horrible :(
peak ginkgo
I've worked with Scala before for an IntelliJ plugin
Are they called plugins or extensions? Whatever it is
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sounds like a 3rd world issue, kneni
finite wave
I like scala, but people will ree at you for the sizes
quasi valley
I switched away from Telekom's email provider yesterday lmao
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ngl i could see myself living in germany within this decade but
quasi valley
they don't have 2FA, and I was literally advised to rename my old mail and create a new one with the old mail to avoid having it deleted (cause I had like a child account under my father's and they were getting rid of it)
minor badge
god damn i dont wanna be subject to your internet
quasi valley
I'm happy with my 50/10 home speed lmao
limber knotBOT
hi proxi uwu
minor badge
50/50 here, but i more meant mobile internet
worn ember
nono
grand pewter
yeah telekom isnt that good lol
when i was in germany my internet was always so shitty
worn ember
i dont want you as a neighbor proxi 
minor badge
the netherlands is more attractive with germany's internet ;)
minor badge
i'll go to belgium then
worn ember
left swift
Tiny country between Netherlands and germany..... Ukraine?
minor badge
belgium has legalised assisted suicide though 
twin lagoon
it's the netherlands w/ worse roads, internet datacaps, weird accents, fucked up words & disgusting fucking mayonaise
minor badge
yuck y'all do mayonnaise in belgium??
twin lagoon
it's the disgusting variant of mayo
worn ember
sounds like something a cheesehead would say
twin lagoon
i went to belgium last year, got some fries w/ belgian mayo
minor badge
i prefer fucking anything over mayonnaise
twin lagoon
i just ate the fries without mayo after it's fucking horrible
worn ember
i dont even eat mayonaise
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@twin lagoon lemme move in w u xx
worn ember
smoke weed all day at the coffeeshops
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im very much straight edge but thank u for the suggestion
minor badge
me neither, intend on keeping it that way 😳
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darkepicdragon
worn ember
i dont have many morals but the ones i have i stand firm by xD
quasi valley
I occasionally have a drink but have never actually been drunk
then there's my brother, just 2 years younger, and literally goes out from 2-6am (am, yes) almost every day during his holidays to drink or whatever else
limber knotBOT
Yours truly,
kindred storm
🤣
limber knotBOT
Uneducated
minor badge
Well just hold on to your pants
kindred storm
You will help me pay for 50% of everything
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but im boutta drop them 
kindred storm
I am looking to create a Minecraft server, (yes we all are shhh)
worn ember
quasi valley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7R3OvI9Bs0 discord is just memeing its own progress at this point
zealous knot
@minor badge pics or it didn't happen
kindred storm
But this is where I flip everything upside down and get your interest in to invest.
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worn ember
cat has the best punchlines
limber knotBOT
no wonder stuff takes forever, they make useless annoying videos to go along with every damn feature...
worn ember
shut up boomer
minor badge
does the play store even have changelogs?
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oh?
quasi valley
pops up once in a while there yea
limber knotBOT
yeah, like desktop does
quasi valley
does it not on android?
merry talon
But this is where I flip everything upside down and get your interest in to invest. I am looking to have a Faction/Skyblock server
fucking lol
left swift
I'm not investing unless its 1.8.8 
finite wave
It’s factions so prolly
merry talon
so he's hiring people to do everything for him because he has no real skills
and also asking for an investor because he has no money
so wtf does he have
not an original idea that's for sure
left swift
He has the motivation 
kindred storm
free ranks and fly
serene bolt
Summer prefix
left swift
I require a 5 color prefix for investor work
worn ember
@spare venture how many average players?
well thats not a lot
so does that mean i can buy 100% shares for 0?
no but seriously
left swift
For the low price of 500$ a month you'll get a role in the discord that's higher in the list of 20 people!
warm anchor
You’d be surprised how much one is willing to pay
limber knotBOT
whos really paying for it tho 🤔
left swift
Maybe it's time to raise them prices Bartholomew
minor badge
turn off antixray and learn how to use the correct fucking channel as you ask in here every single day
worn ember
thats why i have him blocked since day one
if people dont know how to read, they dont deserve their messages to be read
wow tnx barty i'ma be rich soon!!!11!!
how many times has towny fucked up?
putting it in "total lockdown"?
left swift
stares in paper 2.0
worn ember
i remember towny fucking up so much for me i got rid of it
that was a long time ago tho
ALREADY?
still faster than factions
yeah still
their api was pretty solid
so no complaints there
same
i just added support for it in rtp
so you dont tp in faction claims
spice finch
Proxi, why you hate whitespaces so much? /s
minor badge
It's not default for intellij to keep random ass whitespace
so it doesn't really help
kindred storm
How do I prevent my IDE running out of memory when trying to add patches?
Besides adding more memory
kindred storm
I even got "An internal error has occurred while reporting an internal error"
minor badge
how much memory are you constrained to?
vernal moth
don't mind me, I just rick rolled some art project
minor badge
1gb should be enough tbh
spice finch
wtf mini
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what are you doing exactly for it to run outta memory?
kindred storm
nothing special, just making changes to CraftScheduler
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i think intellij has some "lite" option to not index the entire project
might be worth trying that
kindred storm
thanks
solar meteor
the swap should stop you from crashing id look and see if your filling up the swap file or if your on windows go manually set a swap so it dosent resize it on the fly on you
windows will indeed reclaim swap space
spice finch
Finally fixed freezing spotify, accidently 😛 Yesterday I've accidantly uninstalled snapd and spotify with it so went to spotify website and added their repo & sudo apt install spotify-client. It fixed issue lol
snap is broken
slim nymph
uninstalling snapd sounds like a positive
ancient bolt
isn't snapd like electron for linux
slim nymph
no
finite wave
write to discord
ancient bolt
in that they are bloated as hell packges
slim nymph
its sandbox all your apps thing
ancient bolt
yeah, aka bloated package slol
slim nymph
oh i thought you was asking if snapd was a ui framework lol
ancient bolt
snapd is literally just the windows approach to software distribution
vagrant niche
Fascinating https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgOoeOPhDWY
ancient bolt
finally some linux people realized why that was so successful after needing 20 different packages for linux
slim nymph
windows reuses a lot of dlls
snapd is more akin to windows apps static linking instead of dynamic linking
ancient bolt
if it's not a core .NET library then it's distributed with each app
twin lagoon
snapd is scuffed
problem with snapd is that it's super slow & not as maintained
just like flatpak
slim nymph
yeah but like redistributables it might auto install it, but each apps using same base install
snapd is literally duplicate of every lib per app
and wont receive security updates
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it's like musl but uncool
twin lagoon
more annoying thing is that canonical keeps pushing it
slim nymph
mint nuked it
twin lagoon
linux mint rejects snapd
ye
but like
it's also on servers
they deliver LXC through it for example
ancient bolt
the one thing windows does very well is allowing multiple installs of the same lib and not confusing them or having them overlap and shit
linux is terrible at that
same lib different version*
which I learned more directly dealing with ncurses...
fiery tapir
that reminds me, there's some program floating around specifically for getting rid of all the duplicate directx instances steam installs
slim nymph
i dunno linux does it pretty well, stuff like python is different versions in the pkg name. same with lot of libs on api breaks, like QT too
however what gets funky is when start out w/o that and use purely the version of the pkg for versioning and has to transition later, its rough
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python -mvenv . thank
slim nymph
or when apps use the same bin name/path, that gets funky
but libs usally arent an issue
windows doesnt have anything better (prob nowhere near as good as linux handles it either) for dealing with multiple version binaries
"this app depends on python3, this other one depends on 2, but PATH can only point to 1, do both apps work?"
finite wave
It's annoying
ancient bolt
steam doesn't install duplicate directx instances
it installs the versions of directx that is needed to play the games, so there are times when 2 games may require 2 different versions
however, if the version needed is already installed, it does nothing
finite wave
Hangar V2 when
vernal bone
Does anyone has any good recommented skyblock plugins? 👀
golden gust
lol
left swift
Hangar v2 who
finite wave
.g Skyblock spigotmc
vernal moth
https://hangar-new.minidigger.me @finite wave
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finite wave
There u go simon
ancient bolt
@vernal moth I'm similar tbh
finite wave
There is a skyblock plugin
ancient bolt
paperweight is v4 of the papermcp project
vernal bone
Thank you
vernal moth
MiniMessage is at v3 and it's totally getting a full v4 rewrite soon (TM)
vernal moth
Kek, because the logo is clickable
spice finch
Clicking arrow doesn't work too
vernal moth
.g hangarv2 MiniDigger GitHub
ancient bolt
are we sure we want to base off of ore lol
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vernal moth
It's literally a fork of ore, but rewritten in spring
The whole frontend is copy pasted
ancient bolt
Uses Maven
Uses Maven Wrapper
finite wave
Not using gradle
vernal moth
It's spring initializer
finite wave
Don't get mad at him he is german
ancient bolt
He speaks better english than I do tbh
vernal moth
PR or shut up
finite wave
I was always told i needed to learn german cause germans sucked at english.
vernal moth
Yeah, the minilang meme kinda died, now that I am actually capable at English, lol
Man, 5 years back, my English was a mess 😂
Ask cat ^^
left swift
2019 wasn't 5 years ago 🤔
ancient bolt
freemarker is pretty nice, I used it for C code generation https://github.com/DemonWav/wat/blob/master/buildSrc/src/main/resources/com/demonwav/wat/templates/impl.ftl
vernal moth
Yeah, discovered it at work, when I realized thymeleaf just doesn't scale if you throw 2k lines of deeply nested and recursive code at it
50% speed up by switching to freemarker
ancient bolt
I find it a lot easier to work with than velocity templates
vernal moth
Going into prod next week, hopefully Google is happy
golden gust
How did you "get up to scratch" with stuff like springs UI stuff? It's something I kinda wanna learn outside of my brain being sorta goosed, but, not really found much material bar tryna find the time to rip apart existing stuff
cedar spade
Spring Initializr supports Gradle iirc
ancient bolt
it does
cedar spade
cat: dive in at the deep end and you'll figure it out eventually
at least that worked (ish) for me
also learn to love Baeldung tutorials/sample code
golden gust
I was just hoping there was a nicer way for my fragile little brain 😄
cedar spade
probably best to follow some of the baeldung tutorials, I found them quite useful
vernal moth
There are good tutorials ye
ancient bolt
spring is great, just keep putting annotations on everything until it all works
vernal moth
Baeldung is amazing for "how to do x"
cedar spade
I didn't really see many good FreeMarker tutorials, but it's not too hard to get the hang of
ancient bolt
yeah baeldung is quality java tutorials right now, also great for overviews of new JDK features
golden gust
Yea, I've created a few API things using spring at uni; Having free reign over tech stuff just sorta made me gravitate towards spring and then I accidently fell in love with it
ancient bolt
i like javalin for more lightweight things
vernal moth
I used spark for that before
ancient bolt
yeah javalin is a spark fork
designed to support kotlin more directly
but still a java framework
golden gust
Yea, I saw javalin and it looked interesting, I honestly thought it was one of those ones where unless you're using kotlin, bleh
vernal moth
Oh
golden gust
I was actually kinda debating on redoing mcjsonapi
potent fossil
yes
cedar spade
contribute to hangar
ancient bolt
the best part about javalin is that it's not powered by reflection magic and what not, so it's super fast to startup and lightweight
limber knotBOT
the flamecord developer knows how to update upstream
finite wave
Lol you gotta sign stuff to make a pr to spigot.
limber knotBOT
but Velocity is definitely the way to go
worn ember
if anything its the french that dont speak english
cuz they're too proud or something ig
most germans speak english
barely any french man speaks english
at least from my experience
finite wave
Well i was told the same thing when they forced me to take french.
So 
My teacher sucked ass
Not literally
potent fossil
i went to paris once on a school trip and i didn't speak french (i was in the spanish class, we also went to spain, i did speak there) but i asked this lady who was selling water bottles if she spoke english and with a perfect bland american accent she said no
so i just left kek
worn ember
@spare venture i dont hate them, but i dont like them either 🙂
golden gust
I mean, you don't even have the source for flamecord
You're basically fucked on any hopes of doing it yourself
ancient bolt
I'm gonna fork paper and call it foil and make no changes and sell it as an educational tool
once i get contracts with the US govt DoE I'll be rich
ancient bolt
finite wave
Atleast you aren't using the poormans kotlin demon
Omg
A fork dev doesn't know to update his fork
hallow swallow
its upstream update
finite wave
lol
hallow swallow
you know how?
finite wave
Not if he forked it in some weird ass way
I don't understand that language sry.
spanish no bueno
watafak does this mean what i think it means?
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what's going on
finite wave
Flamecoord people are coming asking for help for the fishing rod bobber
And we told them to update bungee or waterfall or whatever.
spice finch
Uh I thought flamecord is some discord guild
finite wave
Bungee fork
golden gust
Porkovski
Am really not sure what the fuck you're expecting
At the end of the day, it's a closed source fork, you don't even have the stuff available if you had the knowledge on how to do it
finite wave
Just use waterfall then u can come here and get mad if it doesn’t work
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literally why use flamecord
vagrant niche
dont go chasin' waterfalls
vagrant niche
omg, when did this Speak Message feature got added
finite wave
Who knows lax
vagrant niche
stick to the rivers and the lakes that ur used to
unreal quarry
@vagrant niche
vagrant niche
Ayyyy
finite wave
Is that lax?
worn ember
Let there be flame
finite wave
#paper-help wtf
fallen oracle
Why do companies play music when you're on hold. The quality is so bad 😦
twin lagoon
i'd rather have music than being hung up after going through a 3 minute robo menu
fallen oracle
Bruh. BestBuy just hung up on me.
Said "I'll call you back in 30 minutes."
I'm just trying to find out the balance of a gift card, smh.
"Yeah, can I pay for gas with a best buy giftcard?"
I don't think the gas station clerk will enjoy that
Idk what that is
I want bottomless wings
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buckets that never empty or never fill?
vagrant niche
I want food
finite wave
Lol i like how that guy responded and said "it can be closed now" after cat already closed it.
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kek
fallen oracle
DO Paper got a method to see if block is waterlogged
I already fixed the first one
No. The one on my dev enviornment
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block.getState() instanceof Waterlogged
unreal quarry
not state, BlockData
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fuck
fallen oracle
I can just like, cancel it
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peepo kek
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or just always setWaterlogged(true)
vagrant niche
Eat it
fallen oracle
So just set the block to be water logged and then don't actually place the water?
Makes sense
left swift
The ultimate prank
fallen oracle
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hopefully it nukes the items too
fallen oracle
Better tell Liza!
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