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cedar spade
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god I thought I had erased that song from my memory within the past 2 years, apparently not

vestal jasper
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@waxen panther hangar wen

waxen panther
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Yes

vestal jasper
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No

worn ember
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Yes

left swift
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Hangar who

cosmic raft
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@twin lagoon hi

twin lagoon
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hi

cosmic raft
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how are you

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???

cedar spade
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was looking to see if any public plugins had adopted the ItemResolver API stuff and stumbled across it

zealous wedge
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uhhh why do CMI packages have capitals

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why tf

cedar spade
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zml, meet CMI

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they've just taken EssentialsX and stripped out the EssentialsX

twin lagoon
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@cosmic raft good until someone decided to dm advertise bot my server

zealous wedge
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that's so unbelievably cursed

cedar spade
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also no license nor proper copyright attribution, and it definitely contains code written by 150+ people

zealous wedge
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oh it's fairly recent too

cedar spade
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at least, in the repo history

cedar spade
zealous wedge
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yikes, strips out all the history

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the author is part of some org called "bukkit commons"

cedar spade
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to be clear, I'm cool with people using EssX API to write compatibility layers like that, even if I think it's a dumb idea

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but like

zealous wedge
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i mean ya do whatever you want

cedar spade
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how much effort was it to fork and include a license

twin lagoon
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i love discord

zealous wedge
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but don't strip out copyright info and credit

cedar spade
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also, it's one of the few projects where my contributions are GPL licensed rather than MIT (not that it matters for attribution)

left swift
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Would using a verification bot stop the dm bots if only new joins can see that channel?

twin lagoon
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not anymore

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er

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depends on the verification method

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eitherway, captchas are annoying so that's not a thing for us

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we have a rolegate but they've evolved

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rn we just block accounts younger than 40d

left swift
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A reaction bot that assigns a role?

twin lagoon
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yes

cedar spade
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if it's on the same server, iirc they still get the full server member list?

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or is that not the case

twin lagoon
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they only get the member list per channel now

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api changed

cedar spade
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oh nice

left swift
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Epic

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I dont understand the advert bots you join the discord they send and they'll instant ban you if you mention it lol

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Seems counter intuitive

spice finch
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CMI = s/EssentialsX/cmi/g lenny

worn ember
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tf is CMI?

wide chasm
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Paid Essentials

left swift
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EssentialsZ to include both CMI and essentialsx but also not at all

worn ember
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andpeople actually buy that?

wide chasm
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Yes

worn ember
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well guess what i'm making next

wide chasm
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4002 downloads

left swift
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Pizza?

worn ember
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dude i cant make pizza

left swift
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Wtf

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Its easy

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Wdym

worn ember
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bruh moment

left swift
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Certified

worn ember
cedar spade
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Essentials but โ‚ฌ15, badly designed and apparently kinda broken

left swift
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Is that what the x stands for

spice finch
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Is docker for production fine for Minecaft server?

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Or there are better alternatives? ๐Ÿ‘€

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I'm Pepega in sysops

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yes

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docker is great

cedar spade
zealous wedge
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ya

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sounds entirely reasonable

left swift
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Plugin war about to start

real pilot
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Proximyst, did you know that Eigencraft is fastRedstoneDust from carpet mod.

minor badge
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yes

real pilot
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I'll test your jar later

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cool, thank you!

spice finch
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MD DMCing some innocent guy Sadge

finite wave
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Lol what

cedar spade
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That's not a DMCA notice lol

kindred storm
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I wonder if that kind of linking is permitted under the GPL

cedar spade
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They've just copy-pasted code from EssentialsX into their project

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It's allowed as long as you follow the rest of the GPL, so license your code under a GPL-compatible license and include proper attribution to people who wrote the original code

spice finch
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Ik its not dmca yet

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but you could probably dmca it since its just copy?

zealous wedge
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many people could dmca it

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but nobody likes it when you come in guns blazing

worn ember
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DMCA always make me think of the YMCA song

peak dirge
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@cedar spade but CMI is pepega

finite wave
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A lot of people still use it tho

kindred storm
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because

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Insane Kits

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Why its 15 Euro? Because its worth 150, but that would be too much to ask

finite wave
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CMI-PaperLIB

left swift
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They should add clearlagg into cmi then it would really do everything it can to fuck your server

kindred storm
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You are not allowed to modify or decompile this plugin

waxen panther
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I will come to your house if you decompile my plugin ๐Ÿ˜ 

left swift
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U bringing the cups?

waxen panther
left swift
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Cant have a decompile party without cups

finite wave
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No biggie his main class is only 2476+ lines.

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I don't like this.

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Depends

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Usually yes

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^^ See minidiggers reponse, it is quite good.

minor badge
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skripts have a place

finite wave
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As minis statement also said ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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so TL;DR: use skript for small stuff where you need much customization, use java for complex projects where organization and performance matters.
minor badge
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just dont overdo them. use them as a scripting lang: they werent made for huge shit

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epic

kindred storm
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you can make a gamemode in Skript if it does not involve too many things or any performance-critical parts.

finite wave
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You can make fucking mineplex

kindred storm
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such as, for example, a survival gamemode with random teleportation and homes

void void
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hm

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anyone else having issues with github? my git push attempt just hangs

finite wave
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Looks fine to me

quasi valley
cedar spade
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@quasi valley hangar wen

quasi valley
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I'll be busy for the next one and a half years, changing the mail of all the sites I've ever used

cedar spade
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lies

quasi valley
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so @cedar spade hangar wen

cedar spade
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that only takes 10 months

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um

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busy working on ๐ŸŽˆ

quasi valley
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what balloon

cedar spade
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that balloon

quasi valley
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I see, have a nice day

cedar spade
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no u

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wait

minor badge
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have an epic day mr pinapl

quasi valley
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thank you mr pinapl, very nice of you

cedar spade
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no u mr television

minor badge
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have an epic day mr kneni

quasi valley
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thank you ms proxi, very nice of you

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thank

cedar spade
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you

vestal obsidian
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Does someone know about good Scoreboard plugin?

left swift
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Tab is the one I use

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Seems good

zinc plover
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ive noticed most on the forums posted issues never get answered is the forum not kinda useless in that part?

left swift
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The paper forums?

zinc plover
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yes

left swift
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Ya most people just come here or use issues on the github

cedar spade
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There are more people actively checking this Discord server

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hmu on the forums md xx

vagrant niche
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Forum's a dying breed

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Discord killed irc/forums

kindred storm
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i wish forums were still active

vagrant niche
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Fun

twin lagoon
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@viral hornet

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hi camm

fallen oracle
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I don't see the problem with getting tested.

twin lagoon
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what's your latency

vagrant niche
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It's very uncomfortable when they fist your nose

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Violently

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@twin lagoon 43ms here

twin lagoon
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i need an AU player

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kek

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smh

vagrant niche
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How bout NZ?

twin lagoon
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o NZ works too

vagrant niche
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122ms

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon hi michael

twin lagoon
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hi cammy

viral hornet
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wassup

twin lagoon
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ping pls

worn ember
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dont ddos kappa

twin lagoon
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yes ddos

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no i just need to know the latency to cosmic guard in AU

viral hornet
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Minimum = 177ms, Maximum = 182ms, Average = 178ms

twin lagoon
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they market about 140 - 150ms

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eh that's not too bad

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what's your ping to a US server

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300?

vagrant niche
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They can

minor badge
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they most likely can legally fuck you over on their land, but not beyond that

fallen oracle
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If my University will host a Minecraft server for me, I'll let them test me all the time.

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simp

finite wave
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Where do you live?

worn ember
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reee meh freedom rights

twin lagoon
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barty take the test

finite wave
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no clue

twin lagoon
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it's literally a corona test just do it

worn ember
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but me freedom angryeyes

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon generally ~230's - 280's from memory

twin lagoon
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thx camm

viral hornet
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Give me a server to ping and I can check

twin lagoon
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xx

fallen oracle
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I want to ace it

twin lagoon
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no that's good enough

viral hornet
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nw

twin lagoon
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camm when are you hiring me again

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๐Ÿฅบ

worn ember
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what ever he's doing i'll do it worse and cheaper

fallen oracle
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I'm sold

viral hornet
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new CPU and NVMe drives are getting looked at being installed

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so after that

worn ember
twin lagoon
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๐Ÿฅบ

viral hornet
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um

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how

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Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 9ms

twin lagoon
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that is amazing

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ok cloudflare spectrum wins

viral hornet
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how tf

twin lagoon
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ironically hypixel's latency is fucking SHIT ingame

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but very hot

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hypixel uses spectrum, cloudflare's network is insane

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they have network PoPs in like every country

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and 11/10 routing

fallen oracle
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So sexy

granite salmon
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I get like 12ms pinging hypixel, but in-game 120ms

viral hornet
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so... good stability for connecting? But ofc shitty ping whilst playing

spice finch
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I was struggling for 3 hours with mysql-server, even google couldn't say anything about my problem. Threw out mysql-server, installed mariadb and boom, everything works fine

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Always used to do that

worn ember
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pretty much any mysql i use uses maria by default

spice finch
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sudo apt install mysql-server

azure flower
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Did you perhaps install 8.x rather than 5.7.x, which is rather different and some things get upset by

spice finch
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on ubuntu 20.04

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yes jim, i downgraded to 5.7 because of issues with 8

twin lagoon
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ubuntu & mysql

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pepega

waxen panther
spice finch
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but other issues appeared

worn ember
azure flower
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At least they provide a nice detailed description of the exact part of the task they are on

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Also is that the material theme there

spice finch
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I didn't do that intentionally

worn ember
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yes

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it just takes forever to get dependencies

tight mirage
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So question for some of you, was running --forceUpgrade to upgrade 1.15.2 to 1.16.1 (hoping to fix some issues) and its been stuck at 70% for about 24h

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Should I just cancel it or?

twin lagoon
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running forceupgrade on 1.15.2

limber knotBOT
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yeah, the vanilla upgrader tends to get stuck sometimes, just abort and restart

twin lagoon
waxen panther
tight mirage
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running forceupgrade on 1.15.2
@twin lagoon
ya because 1.16 has generation screwed up

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lmao

twin lagoon
tight mirage
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Would restarting make it have to go all over again

waxen panther
tight mirage
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[08:07:52 INFO]: 70% completed (37324869 / 52869321 chunks)...

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cause xD

waxen panther
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[08:07:52 INFO]: 70% completed (37324869 / 52869321 chunks)...

golden gust
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it literally just loads every chunk in the world, so, yea

limber knotBOT
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it will notice that the chunk was converted already though

golden gust
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might be a bit faster, but, unless you're coming from 1.12, conversion is pretty cheap

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There is very little that you can solve with --forceUpgrade

tight mirage
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forceupgrade and clear cache blobshrug

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so how would I technically abort the process?

golden gust
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ctrl-c

tight mirage
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im using pterodactyl

golden gust
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hit stop

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should let you kill it at some point

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otherwise ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

tight mirage
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ill kill it

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sorry if I sound ignorant I literally never even used it before lmao

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(force upgrade that is)

worn ember
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intellij just randomly removed an entire package after refactoring a class not even related to that package wtf

finite wave
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Ctrl z

golden gust
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GG

worn ember
golden gust
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That's why I use git

worn ember
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well so am i

kindred storm
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version control good

vernal moth
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Local history still saves you

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When undo can't

worn ember
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its not logged there either

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its just gone

golden gust
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are they gone in git?

vernal moth
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Stop doing drugs

golden gust
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I've had some weird moments with refactoring

worn ember
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just yeetus deletus xD

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rollback to the rescue

finite wave
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Most of the time my undo works, but git history is bae too

slim nymph
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force upgrade wont fix anything but light issues

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@tight mirage

finite wave
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I think someone was having some weird physics issues the other day and forceupgrade was recommended to them too.

slim nymph
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that wont do shit

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literally the only thing that forceupgrade has special is ability to delete light

grave oxide
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they were bored

golden gust
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that was the chunk upgrade causing special issues with physics

slim nymph
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its otherwise identical to getChunkAt()

golden gust
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Or, seemingly that; forceUpgrade is sorta a "probs won't work but apparently has for a few"

true canyon
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My understanding of the papi issue, barty, was that they had given plugins like a year to update things before breaking stuff. That said, I thought they reverted the breaking changes because so many devs hadn't done it in time.

slim nymph
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and im actually gonna add a runtime version of that here soon

void void
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guys do you know a way to check if an plugin has to be updated? no im not gonna use plugman again

limber knotBOT
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deprecates stuff

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nobody follows

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stuff breaks

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thank god md never removes deprecated stuff

golden gust
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god forbid devs wanna refine their software

slim nymph
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the only thing i could see maybe causing a behavioral change there cat is if FU doesnt run the chunks "post upgrade" stuff and that delays until actual load

limber knotBOT
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runs

true canyon
spice finch
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@olive marlin is your cli update thing usable already?

limber knotBOT
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not using dev builds

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smh

kindred storm
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Why didn't PAPI increment their major version instead?

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That's the right way to do breaking changes, isn't it?

limber knotBOT
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if you aren't running the latest dev builds of every plugin then wtf are you even doing?

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do you like bugs that much?

cedar spade
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unless it's Citizens, in which case you're never bug free /s

limber knotBOT
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releases have the new features, dev builds have the bug fixes thinksmart

kindred storm
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I thought removing deprecated methods counts as a breaking change requiring a major version increment.

cedar spade
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paper standardised service APIs when

true canyon
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If you follow semver, A248. I don't think papi will do that until 3.0

void void
twin lagoon
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that is definitely one of the main problems here

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lol

golden gust
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your issue isn't chunks

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that's entities

void void
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my provider doenst let me change the start up parameters..

cedar spade
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get a better host

void void
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well also, this high percent of tick is new to us since 1.16. and the gcmarksweep is always that high. it was smooth 20 tps / no problems before..

twin lagoon
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lol

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what host do you use

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sounds like a vps

void void
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we never had a 240% tracker stage 2 lol

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minehoster is our host

twin lagoon
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$1/gb

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there's your issue

golden gust
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  1. Timings from startup are generally useless given the whole nature of JVM warmup
  2. timings cost is a "little high", this suggests like the machine is somehow slightly overloaded
  3. The nature of the GC stats means that those timing reports can easily be attributable to GC and not really on the CPU itself, this also means that the timing reports are somewhat useless
twin lagoon
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lol

limber knotBOT
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I mean they think you can run a minecraft server with 1GB memory

golden gust
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remember, back in the good days?

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and then 1.8

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and then 1.14

void void
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well. what provider would you guys recommend then? give me some good names.

my server has about 40 plugins and is a survival server.

golden gust
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and then 1.15

twin lagoon
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dedicatedmc or extravm

waxen panther
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@twin lagoon uwu

twin lagoon
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both have DE locations

cedar spade
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and then 1.17

twin lagoon
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extravm being the cheapest

waxen panther
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wise words

void void
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i pay 23$ per month for 10gb of ram lol

limber knotBOT
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interestingly the same company offers way more expensive servers too thonk

olive marlin
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@olive marlin is your cli update thing usable already?
@spice finch Depends. It has basics for Github releases. And for Spigot, it can show you status, but will give you direct URL to download the file manually.
Of course only handles "latest" version everywhere and checks by date, cause there's so many different versioning schemes I didn't want to deal with it yet.
Plan on adding plugins that can be built from git source, jenkins etc. this/next week.

golden gust
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10gb is ram is great, but literally useless if the CPU can't even take you anywhere to needing that

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There is literally 0 reason to have 10G of ram on your player counts bar tryna optimize GC

olive marlin
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And I want to add API for updating Paper at some point ๐Ÿ™‚

twin lagoon
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i mean the epyc cpu is probably just a modern AMD version of the iconic E5 processors being used

golden gust
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it basically is

spice finch
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It's fine, thanks

twin lagoon
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it's likely to be better than the old e5 shit hosts are using

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but it's nothing compared to regular desktop cpus

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or highend xeon e-21xx 22xx series

void void
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bruh we are under maintenance thats why we have 2 players on

golden gust
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They're great chups if you need a fuckton of cores, but, any heavy load is just gonna suck

void void
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we play on good with 35 people

golden gust
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you could probs cope fairly easy with like 4-6G

twin lagoon
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6gb easily

void void
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yeah and thats weird . it is going bad since 1.16 doe..

limber knotBOT
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oh wow, they sell server swith Celeron CPUs

golden gust
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The games memory requirements have gone up over the years

void void
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so extravm or dedicatedmc for performance

golden gust
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(and not the actual amount, while that has increased, it's more how much it throws out each tick has gotten stupid af)

twin lagoon
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both hosts are reputable

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they use proper hardware, one of them giving you dedicated core(s)

limber knotBOT
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wasn#t dedicated the one that was suspected of overselling just a while ago? thonk

twin lagoon
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the swap space is a bit pepega

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i wouldn't say they're overselling

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there's no proof on that either

limber knotBOT
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oh wait, no, they use hetzner servers, that was the issue

twin lagoon
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they use hetzner & reliablesite

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extravm uses ovh

void void
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and our provider minehoster is using 2nd gen amd epyc processors. we have the premium option

golden gust
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RS is amazing if you forget about their damned peer

twin lagoon
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phoenixnap >>>

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@void void yeah definitely switch over

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your host just sucks

void void
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wtf xD

golden gust
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epyc is basically useless for MC

limber knotBOT
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oh yeah, that too

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good afternoon

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but hetzner with ryzens might not get you the best performance but ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

golden gust
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Like, maybe for minigame type servers, epyc is amazing, but, for anything else, avoid

void void
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wait am i reading this right? extravm has unlimited storage?

limber knotBOT
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I mean, storage is cheap af

void void
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we have 50gb which we are very close at atm (41gb)

limber knotBOT
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how big is your player base btw?

void void
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currently 20 but in good days it can go up to 30

limber knotBOT
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then get a real server, lol

twin lagoon
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i can't recommend OVH that much anymore tbh

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PNAP is just better

void void
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yes barty

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remember its an survival server we need good performance for this

fallen oracle
void void
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extravm looks interesting let me take a look

twin lagoon
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phoenixnap glare

limber knotBOT
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get a game server from soyoustart then

fallen oracle
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Ahh

twin lagoon
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no phoenixnap is literally cheaper

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$125

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no setup fees

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no

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it's lliterally $125/mo

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no discount

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the only thing you don't have is a 1tb extra ssd

fallen oracle
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Dang those are expensive

twin lagoon
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which i don't mind at all tbh

limber knotBOT
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there specs seem good

twin lagoon
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it's always discounted

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it has been priced like that for months now

fallen oracle
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But I guess these are more for bigger usage and not vps stuff

twin lagoon
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you get extremely good support at phoenixnap

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good network, good locations

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can upgrade your hardware

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OVH still has the better network of course & a VLAN between all their datacenters worldwide but their VLAN sucks anyways

limber knotBOT
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I think most people prefer cheap over all the rest

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runs

slim nymph
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"expensive", geez thats dirt cheap glare

twin lagoon
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it's dirt cheap for a dedi yes

fallen oracle
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Okay, expensive for what I would need it for.

twin lagoon
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also for a similarly specced machine at OVH, infra-2 + 64gb ram upgrade

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ovh $150/mo + setup fees

slim nymph
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ovh is not anywhere close to industry standard prices, they undercut soooo much

twin lagoon
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i'll get you some numbers in a few

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and an ip you may ping if necessary

fallen oracle
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I don't think I need a full dedi for MCBanners. Now, I did have to upgrade the vps from like cloud1 to cloud2 so it could run it all cause whenever we did updates it would lock up

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Gradle daemons too strong

twin lagoon
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for mcbanners, just grab a digitalocean vps

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oh and you get 5 IPs for free at PNAP

fallen oracle
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I think I have it on the essential vps plan at ovh

cedar spade
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make mcbanners serverless

limber knotBOT
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just make it decentralized thinksmart

twin lagoon
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ashburn

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cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "MHz"
cpu MHz : 4699.970
cpu MHz : 4699.978
cpu MHz : 4700.006
cpu MHz : 4700.093
cpu MHz : 4700.106
cpu MHz : 4700.027
cpu MHz : 4700.000
cpu MHz : 4699.982
cpu MHz : 4699.999
cpu MHz : 4699.957
cpu MHz : 4700.210
cpu MHz : 4699.950
cpu MHz : 4700.086
cpu MHz : 4699.935
cpu MHz : 4700.064
cpu MHz : 4699.972

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e-2288g

fallen oracle
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But I mean, $14/month for MCBanners isn't the end of world

twin lagoon
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the max 2288g mhz is 5000

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east

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er

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uh

cedar spade
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um

twin lagoon
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us east somewhere

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.g ashburn

limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
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virginia

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my latency seems to be ~100ms pinging from NL

cedar spade
zealous wedge
#

thanks virginia

twin lagoon
true canyon
#

Do you get a discount for hosting directly at the NSA's datacenter

fallen oracle
#

That's a lot of IPs

slim nymph
#

discount towards nsa's fondness of you?

twin lagoon
#

one thing i dislike about pnap is the lack of documentation / proper knowledge base

slim nymph
#

and man if any of you gonna get Grounded, GENOCIDE THE MF'ING ANTS.

twin lagoon
#

you only get info about the VLAN from live chat

fallen oracle
#

My mom grounded me once

twin lagoon
#

their VLAN however works properly unlike OVH's

fallen oracle
#

Idk anything about ants tho

#

I did kill one this morning tho

slim nymph
#

Ants are evil in Grounded, if their population goes unchecked, they declare war on you and rob your chests

fallen oracle
#

We must be talking about different ants.

slim nymph
#

and larva start raiding your base too

#

if you dont kill them

void void
#

guys know any good ways to check for plugin updates? or do i have to google every single one every day if there are updates available

twin lagoon
#

go through any major plugin

zealous knot
#

Did someone mention serverless applications mfOHHYeeS

twin lagoon
#

update them

spice finch
olive marlin
#

I'm working on a simple tool for checking for updates and updating.

cedar spade
#

Keep a list of plugins you use with the resource pages/website, then you can reference that more easily

olive marlin
#

Yeah, what CDFN linked. Still doesn't have much, but should work โ„ข๏ธ

spice finch
#

write webscraper to check plugisn availability wesmart

limber knotBOT
#

I just build plugins on my build server directly so I just need to copy from there thinksmart

twin lagoon
#

not everyone has that luxury

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lol

limber knotBOT
#

using any public plugin but the big ones

#

smh

olive marlin
#

Yeah, I update every few months, hope that my tool will let me do it more often.

limber knotBOT
#

we, wg and logblock have been pretty stable for me

#

runs

olive marlin
#

CoreProtect alternative

cedar spade
#

coreprotect/prism but not

limber knotBOT
#

one of the oldest block logging plugins, lol

olive marlin
#

Opensource

limber knotBOT
#

no, it's "open" source

olive marlin
#

I was sure it was opensource lol

limber knotBOT
#

it'c CC BY-NC-SA which is not open source

zealous wedge
#

remember when prism was going to unite the block logging plugins?

limber knotBOT
#

*its

#

lmao

#

what kind of third world country do you live in if you have power outages? Oo

twin lagoon
#

the US

cedar spade
#

was waiting for that

limber knotBOT
#

๐Ÿ‘€

cedar spade
#

getting into #politics territory here ๐Ÿ‘€

limber knotBOT
#

id be surprised if any countries didn't have power outages

#

are yallspower lines underground or something

#

yes

#

sounds unsafe

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laughs in German

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the only outages we have are planed maintanance ones which are announced weeks in advance

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if not months

#

and its a lot safer than putting power lines over ground where every idiot can hit/cut them

gleaming rivet
#

^^

#

europe is so much better when it comes to power outages

twin lagoon
#

most powerlines are underground here

#

i haven't had a single power outage in years

finite wave
#

I've only ever had 2-3 outages in my whole life.

gleaming rivet
#

last i had one, was because of lightning - and thats 8 years ago

limber knotBOT
#

same, Jan

gleaming rivet
#

and we could just switch the power on again xd (the relay shut off)

limber knotBOT
#

one was due to a flooding, and the other two when they did some work on the street

twin lagoon
#

the only above ground thing is this

#

high-voltage power lines

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, lol

twin lagoon
#

the rest is all underground

waxen panther
#

Canโ€™t remember the last time I had a power outage

limber knotBOT
#

me neither

#

what happened there barty

#

ah, and it was near where the video was taken?

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"firework"

fallen oracle
#

Oh wow

cedar spade
limber knotBOT
#

I mean... that explosion looks way to uniform to be fireworks imo but ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

cedar spade
#

(discord embed is dumb)

fallen oracle
#

There's a video in the comments linked from a perspective of it across town.

fallen oracle
#

That's a big firework malfunction.

twin lagoon
#

that's massive

#

wtf

#

holy shit

fallen oracle
#

Looks like a mushroom bomb

limber knotBOT
#

no, lol

twin lagoon
#

you can see the damage here

#

wtf

limber knotBOT
#

someone just has to find out what was stored there ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

kindred storm
#

Is this just now?

limber knotBOT
#

so, uh, does the building still stand? Oo

twin lagoon
#

prolly the tower on the right

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, it's all full of smoke lol

twin lagoon
#

o nvm not the tower

limber knotBOT
#

the one on the left in the last video

#

the explosion doesn't seem to reach the left side of it

#

why don't all phones have automatic slowmo on fast video changes? ;_;

unreal quarry
#

That doesn't look like a fireworks explosion..

#

I mean, at first it did.. but then nope

kindred storm
#

6 minutes ago

limber knotBOT
#

some people say it might've been a gas leak too

wide chasm
#

Local news site says storage for explosives

unreal quarry
#

Natural gas doesn't send out a massive shockwave like that that I've ever seen.

potent fossil
#

i dont think anyone really knows what happened yet, even the local news as it only just happened and afaik just a few mins ago the red cross was responding

#

i'd wait like, at least another hour before putting any salt into what the news says

limber knotBOT
#

"The possible second explosion was reported to be at the Hariri residence in the city." ๐Ÿ‘€

potent fossil
#

Yeah if there start being followup explosions lmao...this is an attack, not fireworks.

wide chasm
#

I mean, storage for explosives is pretty broad, that could also be fireworks

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, that wouldn't bee to surprising if they just stored all the explosive stuff together

potent fossil
#

places big sign outside of building

NO SMOKING WITHIN 1000 FT

SERIOUSLY

limber knotBOT
#

still easier than banning smoking in the whole harbor tbh

left swift
#

thats crazy

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
#

oh my

#

yeah, the fireworks definitly went of before the explosion, lol

#

"more clear view" puts text on it

#

tbf it doesnt cover it

wide chasm
#

I.e., literally the same video we saw before without text, now with text.

limber knotBOT
#

oh, this one's framerate is high enough to see the initial spark ๐Ÿ‘€

#

oop lol

void void
limber knotBOT
#

making us download something ๐Ÿ‘€

twin lagoon
#

.paste

kindred storm
#

.paste

limber knotBOT
twin lagoon
#

korobi stop spamming

limber knotBOT
void void
twin lagoon
#

that's nuts

void void
#

check that out

twin lagoon
#

the reuters view

limber knotBOT
#

sโ€‹raโ€‹wmโ€‹axโ€‹: cool?

#

ok so the building is gona ๐Ÿ˜“

unreal quarry
#

Yeah, don't think anything within a few hundred meters is gonna be there when the smoke clears, phoenix lol

cunning raft
#

can't wait to see all the hearts and chats

limber knotBOT
#

oh wait, it still stands

cunning raft
#

it's like the only building standing lol

limber knotBOT
#

god, the periscope chat is as cancer as yt/twitch would be

unreal quarry
#

Here in Houston I think we've had half a dozen major explosions or so (yay chemical plants, amirite) and none ever created a perfect shockwave ball like that one did :3

twin lagoon
#

i would shit my pants if i saw one up close like that

cunning raft
#

a well moderated twitch chat isn't that cancel

#

cancer*

twin lagoon
#

so i'd rather not have the perfect shockwave ball

cunning raft
#

it's like the best chat system

#

everything else sucks

limber knotBOT
#

meanwhile it's impossible to moderate youtube chat

cunning raft
#

yeah

limber knotBOT
#

emote only is the only way to moderate a large twitch chat

#

and NASA did exactly that, lol

cunning raft
#

not really

#

you need actual good mods

left swift
#

thots and prayers b_pensiveflushed ๐Ÿ™

limber knotBOT
#

try mo derating 40k viewers lol

cunning raft
#

xqc, ninja, shroud all moderate their twitch chats fine

#

xqc gets 40 or 50k views each day

#

not even follower only mode

#

no slowmode

limber knotBOT
#

probably lots of auto remove rules, lol

cunning raft
#

links and spam is about it

limber knotBOT
#

woah jerry seinfield sounds exactly like barry b bensin

twin lagoon
#

twitch chat can be good w/ slow mode & the right bots

#

bots can easily take out most of the hard work

cunning raft
#

if you use chaterino to mod it isn't that hard

left swift
#

no spamerino in the chaterino

twin lagoon
#

oh right and the right chat client

unreal quarry
#

I was inside the shock zone of the shell explosion back in the 80s. I remember it very well, even though I was just a kid :3 no one knew wtf was going on. Just windows blasted out and doors blown opened all at once. Scary stuff ^_^

twin lagoon
#

^_^

potent fossil
#

fuckin hell

#

kids back in school in georgia today

fallen oracle
#

I saw that

potent fossil
#

look at that sheer lack of masks

fallen oracle
#

6 masks

#

100 kids

limber knotBOT
#

the thing with masks is

fallen oracle
#

Parents were allowed to sign something if it was against their beliefs to wear a mask.

limber knotBOT
#

if everyone isnt wearing one, no one might as well

void void
#

how should staff deal with players who are.... toxic, such as they're political and get into arguments on purpose? Have this player who's dissing people who's in another country and saying country X is better then Y, etc. Not really breaking rules, dude is just rude.

potent fossil
#

Here in California, we have to sign something that says your child may die and if they do it's not the school's fault.

#

No shit.

cunning raft
#

i mean legally speaking, i don't think they can enforce a mask policy which is why everything should be remote learning

potent fossil
#

We're not signing it, lol.

limber knotBOT
#

my question is who tf starts school this early

cunning raft
#

some US states

potent fossil
#

some High Schools do

cunning raft
#

they get out earlier

limber knotBOT
#

weeird

#

i mean some people start in september too so

potent fossil
#

yea they prob get out in may rather than june

#

and the ppl who start in sept get out late june or early july typically

#

so, same breaks, same school years

twin lagoon
#

@void void ask them to stop?

limber knotBOT
#

we wouldve gotten out the last friday of may and we didn't start until aug 23rd or so

remote kestrel
#

Help!

twin lagoon
#

.halp

twin lagoon
#

there's a console error for everything

void void
#

I think my staff tried that. You know, ask them to be nicer, etc.

unreal quarry
#

My kids start school in a week or two. They sent out these forms we had to do to choose online classes or let them go to school. We chose online classes for our kids. Fuck that mess

remote kestrel
#

Sorry

potent fossil
#

tell them to stop and then ban them if they don't, it's kinda simple

limber knotBOT
#

good choice billy

potent fossil
#

sad you're still not banning ppl bc u like them

limber knotBOT
#

mโ€‹hiโ€‹a: /ban helps a lot

potent fossil
#

but that's the tea

twin lagoon
#

then get rid of the person

#

kek

potent fossil
#

yea hes the thing, mhia doesnt do that

#

heres*

fallen oracle
#

I'm moving in like 3 days back to school but I do fear we're going to be full online.

limber knotBOT
#

either ban people or just ignore their BS ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

potent fossil
#

guidelines (or rules, w/e) should apply to all, otherwise why have them

cunning raft
#

Lol JRoy Iโ€™m sure they can enforce a mask policy if my university is allowed to force me to get tested even though I have no symptoms or history of contact with anyone who is infected
@spare venture depends on if that Uni was state/government

potent fossil
#

but thats a problem with a lot of servers. some ppl are established, and get leniency for that reason

limber knotBOT
#

discord tos be like

potent fossil
#

and then never get banned even when being literal racists

cunning raft
#

hmm, not sure about the legality of forcing tests

#

but masks is something they can't enforce, there's a reason why there is no federal mandate

#

well

#

besides the dumbass in chief

potent fossil
#

Why is there a problem with getting force tested? I can't even get voluntarily tested

cunning raft
#

yikes

potent fossil
#

tbh, needs to be done, ppl won't wear masks? then force test ppl.

limber knotBOT
#

just test everyone at once? smh

fallen oracle
#

Do they charge you for the test?

cunning raft
#

I don't have a problem with testing simple

fallen oracle
#

Then I don't see a problem

potent fossil
#

I really don't either, this isn't a rights violation or harassment

#

they want the community safe

limber knotBOT
#

americans be like: "free healthcare? what is this? socialism?!?"

unreal quarry
#

There's a reason, barty. It's called a pandemic

potent fossil
#

'no reason' -- have you um

limber knotBOT
#

"you can't force me to be healthy"

potent fossil
#

heard of asymptomatic carriers of covid

limber knotBOT
#

"muh freedoms!"

potent fossil
#

like, you literally cannot tell if you have it

pseudo ridge
#

best way to do leader boards with holographic displays?

potent fossil
#

big deal, you're a student and if they make a rule for all students, distance learning or not, then you get to play as well

limber knotBOT
#

is?

potent fossil
#

yay team sports

#

distance learning or not ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

yeah, well, thanks to the Uni for that because it's hard enough to get tested on your own

unreal quarry
#

I was thinking about it last night. And I came to the realization I've only left my apartment 3 times since beginning of may. Idk if that's sad, or expected

potent fossil
#

i mean, i go outside. but if ima be within 6 ft of someone, i wear a mask

#

sorry ur feeling so oppressed ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

limber knotBOT
#

just be glad you can get tested for free

cunning raft
#

There are civil liberties concerns with what happened in the last 6 months. Sure they are for the greater good but when this all ends it's something that needs to get looked into

limber knotBOT
#

yeah, they need to make sure that stuff doesn't continue "after" it is dealt with

#

but the US didn't really have anything going on which would impose on personal freedoms so ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

meanwhile in Europe governments banned you from going outside besides buying food, lmao

cunning raft
#

Yeah that would never fly here lol

#

They can impose some stuff to do that but it usually never works

limber knotBOT
#

imagine having a near zero rate ๐Ÿ‘€

#

nobody wants that!

cunning raft
#

i mean democracy comes with a price lmao

limber knotBOT
#

runs

unreal quarry
#

Doesn't Vietnam have a zero death rate?

limber knotBOT
#

the US wishes they had a democracy, lol

#

meanwhile the real democracies in Europa manage it far better than the fake one other there, lol

kindred storm
#

ChatControl update says:

#

Note: I did a partial security audit of the code to ensure the plugin is stable and reliable, and the results were great. Minecraft 1.4.7 to 1.16 compatible. We are providing security and bug-fix updates at: https://github.com/kangarko/ChatControl-Free/issues

twin lagoon
#

mineacademy is fucked

#

they kicked all their devs

#

moved back to github

limber knotBOT
#

lol

kindred storm
#

really?

twin lagoon
#

got rid of their jira etc

potent fossil
#

oh boy kekwhyper

wide chasm
#

lol

kindred storm
#

why?

twin lagoon
#

kangarko blames his devs sfor everything that went wrong the last couple of months

limber knotBOT
#

not transfering the git history ๐Ÿ‘€

wide chasm
#

I mean, mineacademy was already fucked, but

potent fossil
#

mfw

limber knotBOT
#

the only one to blame there is kangarko himself, lmao

kindred storm
#

what went wrong?

#

(besides the whole operation from the start)

limber knotBOT
#

someone PR that advertisement out of the readme ๐Ÿ‘€

#

flu season is coming up so testings are gonna spike

#

because flu symptoms are similar to covid-19 symptoms and all that

sturdy fulcrum
#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

hello clip

sturdy fulcrum
#

blame eclipse on mineacademy issues

limber knotBOT
#

eCLIPse

spice finch
#

Flu causes false positive for covid?

sturdy fulcrum
#

what was i thinking using that shit

cunning raft
#

pretty sure everyone started off on it

limber knotBOT
#

so what was the deal with the annotations? IntelliJ was like "hey you should add these" but didn't force me

sturdy fulcrum
#

i opened eclipse yesterday to figure out the issue regarding hs post on spigot

#

ez

#

deleted files out my m2

#

started fresh with no issues

#

although i did have to open and close eclipse like 5 times

#

what a shit ide

#

shame on me for ever using it lol

worn ember
#

Yes shame on you

limber knotBOT
#

again?

serene bolt
#

rip

limber knotBOT
#

"yo fuck him" - clip

sturdy fulcrum
#

swallow and then chew @spare venture

limber knotBOT
#

hm

sturdy fulcrum
#

blame them

limber knotBOT
#

update ur plugins

#

update or remove

#

ez

#

the way

sturdy fulcrum
#

theres a way of doing your mom too

#

but we wont discus that

serene bolt
limber knotBOT
#

3rd party discord emoji spotted

sturdy fulcrum
#

pretty sure id knock your mom out of menopause

limber knotBOT
#

menoplay

#

menopause? isnt that what you say to your mom when she wants you to pause your online game

#

barty clip wants you to listen to his "grown up sperm" (aka kids, i assume)

olive patio
#

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

limber knotBOT
#

wawa

finite wave
#

Chew you call yours menoplay?

limber knotBOT
#

im not old enough for it

#

usully doesnt happen until mid-late 40's

#

i had my midlife crisis at 10

true canyon
#

clip why did you sabotage mineacademy? This is an outrage.

sturdy fulcrum
#

where

limber knotBOT
#

clip how could you

true canyon
#

The breaking his foundation plugin via placeholderapi ๐Ÿ˜„

sturdy fulcrum
#

yeah well thats eclipse for ya?

true canyon
#

clip is singlehandedly responsible for all of this

limber knotBOT
#

god ridense

true canyon
#

We must burn the clip at the stake.

sturdy fulcrum
#

burn me

olive patio
#

your wish is my command ๐Ÿ”ฅ

sturdy fulcrum
#

was I wrong?

#

can i get a mbax like to the update for that

#

at least

limber knotBOT
#

we should burn him at the steak because papi 2.10.7 was a miss steak

sturdy fulcrum
#

fuck off

limber knotBOT
#

but hey

#

2.10.8 was a mister steak

#

#sexism

worn ember
#

wtf is this chat

finite wave
#

Chew so old she forgot her menopause

sturdy fulcrum
#

how cancerous was your mom after my tumor

olive patio
true canyon
#

can i get a mbax like to the update for that

Wot

finite wave
#

My mother died of leukemia so she was fairly cancerous

limber knotBOT
#

oh

true canyon
#

Hah!

limber knotBOT
#

oh noo muh annotations!! !!

true canyon
steel pulsar
#

minecraft plugins are for children its childs play

fallen oracle
#

Wow, they are saying they heard / felt the explosion 200km away

steel pulsar
#

its just joking around and fuckin around its toy stuff

fallen oracle
#

.wa 200km to mile

limber knotBOT
#

and i would walk 124.3 miles

fallen oracle
#

Damn

#

That's pretty far

limber knotBOT
#

.wa 2.54 cm to an inch

#

oh nice

steel pulsar
#

the explosion in beirut?

limber knotBOT
#

.wa 1 inch to inches

worn ember
#

imagine not using the metric system

limber knotBOT
#

ikr imagine being superior

finite wave
#

.wa 21 cm to inches

carmine shell
#

.wa squrt -2 inches to feet

limber knotBOT
finite wave
#

Nice

limber knotBOT
#

lmao

#

mmm feet

cedar spade
#

chew pls

carmine shell
#

lets break .wa

vagrant niche
#

Big boom

worn ember
#

keep your fetishes for yourself

vagrant niche
#

๐Ÿ’ฆ

limber knotBOT
#

.wa define owo

#

(chew) No results.

#

oh

#

.wa 1 feet to usd

#

(chew) Result: feet and $ (US dollars) are not compatible. - https://is.gd/PBayo0

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of peopleโ€”spanning all professions and education levels.

#

to all simps ^

cedar spade
#

.wa 1 kilogram to kelvin

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Result: kg (kilograms) and K (kelvins) are not compatible. - https://is.gd/Ak6YXE

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of peopleโ€”spanning all professions and education levels.

#

why we spammin chat

finite wave
#

spam

limber knotBOT
#

ing

finite wave
#

.wa How to stop spam

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) No results.

#

(DiscordBot) Result: 1.183ร—10^-4 m^3 (cubic meters) - https://is.gd/NnEuyp

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of peopleโ€”spanning all professions and education levels.

#

.wa placeholderapi

finite wave
#

.g How to stop spam on your discord server filetype:mp4

limber knotBOT
#

(chew) Definitions of "placeholder": 1 | noun | a person authorized to act for another 2 | noun | a symbol in a logical or mathematical expression that can be replaced by the name of any member of specified set - https://is.gd/vvuzem

Wolfram|Alpha brings expert-level knowledge and capabilities to the broadest possible range of peopleโ€”spanning all professions and education levels.

#

(DiscordBot) No results found.

#

americans seem to have a feet fetish

finite wave
#

Chew, stop making your problem everyones problem.

limber knotBOT
#

what

carmine shell
#

.

quasi valley
#

,

limber knotBOT
#

;

sturdy fulcrum
#

@spare venture why isnt your nickname barfy

#

i smell you over here already

finite wave
cedar spade
#

โ‰๏ธ

quasi valley
#

โ—

limber knotBOT
#

clip didn't break it

sturdy fulcrum
#

sayst the guy who didnt notice

finite wave
#

stop lying

#

nub

limber knotBOT
#

inf act clip fixed it

#

ez

carmine shell
#

.wa โˆš(-2)-(0โฐ)Log0(-12!)

limber knotBOT
sturdy fulcrum
#

who cares who broke what

safe plover
#

whats a really cheap, yet still relatively good hosting service ?

limber knotBOT
#

cheap and good dont go together

kindred storm
#

no

limber knotBOT
#

SoYouStart ๐Ÿ‘€

kindred storm
#

they do

#

cheapness is a good quality

safe plover
#

Iโ€™m not looking for 8gb of ram at 5$

spice finch
#

Contabo

safe plover
#

i suppose they just give you a vm that you install your own stuff on ?

spice finch
#

they literally have 8gb offer for 5$ but shitty processors

safe plover
#

iโ€™m just looking for some cheap solution to host a server on for me and my friends to play on

#

1.16.1

limber knotBOT
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safe plover
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i know, but thought yall might know better

spice finch
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Shared host will be the best for you. If you haven't much friends then I'd personally choose shared host

limber knotBOT
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tnhanks timothy

safe plover
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ok sec

limber knotBOT
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u can share with me

kindred storm
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what

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lean seemed receptive

limber knotBOT
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finna come out with ChewAPI

spice finch
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ChewAPI.getChew()

limber knotBOT
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chewapi technically exists

cedar spade
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who's chewing pi

spice finch
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Damn... I had to write one plugin in java. It's painful when switching from kotlin

limber knotBOT
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kotlin is painful

spice finch
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no u

limber knotBOT
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i know im not

spice finch
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i know kotlin isn't

finite wave
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Kotlin is less painful than java

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wtf

safe plover
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How much ram do i need to have a โ€œfineโ€ experience on 1.16.1 with like 10 players max on at once ?

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around 5 plugins

cedar spade
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have you considered investing in a datacenter

limber knotBOT
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kotlin is way too confusing

finite wave
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Why lol

topaz mortar
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No way.

olive marlin
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Kotlin has many shortcuts so if you are not familiar with then, it might seem confusing.

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But that's like with any language tbh.

finite wave
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If you are someone who doesn't even wanna try kotlin is certainly confusing

cedar spade
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ah yes, the daily kotlin vs java argument

olive marlin
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Have you seen advanced bash scripts?

potent fossil
topaz mortar
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It's like saying C++ is confusing...

steel pulsar
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thers no such thing as advanced bash script

limber knotBOT
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c++ is cool

olive marlin
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Saw how you do reflections in bash?

finite wave
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c++ is confusing sometimes

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I bought caffeine pills cause i dislike coffee, but want to not be tired sometimes

cedar spade
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let me know when you find the Bash virtual machine

steel pulsar
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operating system built in bash

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bashOS

merry talon
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there's already node os

worn ember
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but i'm not certain

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so would like some more opinions on it

kindred storm
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need to see code

serene bolt
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to me it looks like he's swaying his camera left / right but it's hard to tell if he's actually moving at all

kindred storm
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only the code matters

potent fossil
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how do you send them to a safe loc? just 1 block away from whatever is dangerous? that might be too close tbh

worn ember
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the block under them has to be safe

kindred storm
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hmm, actually, the video makes it seem like they spawned above a pool of lava

potent fossil
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check if the blocks adjacent to the one under it are also safe

kindred storm
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look in slow motion

potent fossil
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so you dont have someone appear on a single block in the middle of lava

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rare, but could happen

worn ember
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could it be a block thats not solid?

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like a vine or something

kindred storm
worn ember
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and they fall through it?

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hmm yeha

potent fossil
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mmm, im not sure, would need to see the code that decides safe/not safe

vagrant niche
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Just freeze em for like 10secs ez

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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ratatouille is a really good movie tho lol

limber knotBOT
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see yall in 65 mins

wraith oracle
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is the server banner low quality or is it just blurred

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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blurred likely

worn ember
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so he cant be falling from nothing, cuz you cant be teleported on air

worn ember
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the player is also offset 0.5 x and z so they spawn in the middle of the block

kindred storm
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maybe lava is not a blacklisted material

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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isnt there different kinds of lava

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like stationary and flowing lava

kindred storm
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flowing lava?

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yeah

worn ember
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not that i could find

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i think they all fall under Lava

potent fossil
limber knotBOT
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made what

vagrant niche
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Spawn a villager first, if it dies it's very unsafe

potent fossil
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to level 69

limber knotBOT
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oh thats an image

potent fossil
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thats correct

vagrant niche
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You wanna play ragnarok

potent fossil
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wat

steel pulsar
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ragnarok online, the hottest game of 2007

vagrant niche
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T-Mobile Tuesdays, free Popeyes chicken sandwich and two chicken guys!!

potent fossil
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wat

slim nymph
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@potent fossil is dat sum wow

potent fossil
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yea

worn ember
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i thought that was runescape

potent fossil
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i have an RS acc, but I can't stand RS anymore