Now to try to figure out how reverse proxy this lol
#general
tawdry holly
tawdry holly
I know I don't, it just looks better with secure connection and I really need to learn how to do that anyway
potent fossil
you still don't need to reverse proxy, you just need nginx's webserver capability
tawdry holly
oh?
potent fossil
yep
cedar spade
reverse proxy is for exposing another server/application behind nginx to the outside world
olive marlin
reverse proxy is where you proxy another webserver (you connect to nginx -> nginx connects to dynmap for example).
olive marlin
Yeah, then you need to reverseproxy for dynmap, and add certs for nginx on :443 and make :80 redirect to :443.
potent fossil
basically just make your server https, and then add your certs and ssl settings
nginx will work just fine
with your plain HTML
potent fossil
add it to the server_name
knotty rose
As someone asked a question about nginx ill ask a question about litespeed.... why tf doesnt it index my subfolders here
potent fossil
server_name geri.pw www.geri.pw
or you can use *.geri.pw if you want all subdomains to be caught
steel pulsar
probably doesn't have access to subfolders
waxen panther
w
steel pulsar
ls -al .
tawdry holly
knotty rose
the folders have 640 perm
steel pulsar
disgusting
knotty rose
And if i go to a subfolder there isnt a 403
Its a shared host so i dont have access to shell, too
tawdry holly
bah what
potent fossil
server_name geri.pw www.geri.pw
@potent fossil
tawdry holly
Now it's encrypted and can't view the file
potent fossil
'encrypted'
tawdry holly
.. fair
potent fossil
wat
tawdry holly
Encrypting single html file
potent fossil
highly confused
waxen panther
tawdry holly
knotty rose
no access to shell thats good
most of shared host dont give it
potent fossil
:o
steel pulsar
i know
potent fossil
yeah that config is 
server {
listen 80;
listen [::]:80;
server_name geri.pw *.geri.pw;
return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
}
server {
listen 443 http2;
listen [::]:443 http2;
server_name geri.pw *.geri.pw;
root /var/www/test;
index index.html;
ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/geri.pw/fullchain.pem;
ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/geri.pw/privkey.pem;
ssl_dhparam /etc/letsencrypt/ssl-dhparams.pem;
include /etc/letsencrypt/options-ssl-nginx.conf;
location / {
try_files $uri $uri/ =404;
}
}
minor badge
remember http2 in listens
and i'd do server_name _; for port 80 as if it hits your server, you likely want it to go https anyways
tawdry holly
Doesn't seem to be working
potent fossil
i dont personally do that because of multiple sites, and while i dont actually have the issue of needing some http some https i like having the ability to do so on a site by site basis
worn ember
not using cloudflare encryption 
minor badge
domain.tld *.domain.tld is also a bad idea as you can't (with letsencrypt anyway) have wildcard + no-wildcard on same cert
potent fossil
you should still have enc on origin...
tawdry holly
yes.
potent fossil
i have wildcard and no wildcard on my single cert
worn ember
flexible ftw
minor badge
huh
potent fossil
works like a charm
tawdry holly
Let me try to restart
minor badge
guess i'll have to try that too, using 2 certs is kinda unepic
tawdry holly
None
golden gust
what's the issue?
tawdry holly
https://geri.pw/ - doesn't load the file which w/o certbot it did
Still in a redirect loop
worn ember
ah yes the infamous infinite redirect
potent fossil
it's still doing a redir loop, did the config actually change 
cedar spade
New community guidelines means I have to change my nickname again
worn ember
i had the same issue and just deleted ssl 
tawdry holly
golden gust
What's your CF settings?
golden gust
That screams that you're using non-SSL on CF>site and so CF is trying to redirect
Well, the servers trying to redirect, as it sees the non SSL connection to it
vernal moth
Am gonna steal my keyboard back from my parents tomorrow, gonna set myself a deadline to learn how to play this in a week, I take bets 😂
potent fossil
yeah make sure CF is set to strict SSL
golden gust
honestly
tawdry holly
Not sure where that is
vestal jasper
@vernal moth hangar wen
worn ember
isnt that just flexible ssl?
potent fossil
flexible is fine, but this is all set up for strict ssl
vernal moth
Am gonna visit my grandma
worn ember
you can work on it with your grandma then Mini
golden gust
check their guides, they have a way to get a cert somewhere
cedar spade
vic that's mine and kneny's job >:(
vestal jasper
I left you a fun MiniMessage issue / feature request too :^)
vernal moth
Yeah I ignore them to work on all of them in a go
golden gust
what did you do?
tawdry holly
Might have been a cache issue? I had the CF cache thing enabled
potent fossil
inb4 the config never actually changed and was still the old one
correct
CF had that shit cached
tawdry holly
I think so
worn ember
cache me outside
potent fossil
how bow dah
potent fossil
yes
minor badge
this is epic thank u simple
potent fossil
./acme.sh --issue -d *.domain.com -d domain.com --dns dns_cf
./acme.sh --install-cert -d '*.domain.com' --cert-file /path/to/cert.cer --key-file /path/to/key.key --fullchain-file /path/to/chain.cer --reloadcmd "reload your webserver here"
done. auto renews using CF api and auto runs reload cmd when a new cert is issued
set it, forget it
one cert file for *.domain.com and domain.com
potent fossil
What didn't let you log in
minor badge
cloudflare lol
worn ember
banned for abusing their service
minor badge
at least that'd have a clear error message
potent fossil
rip
steel pulsar
traefik
sharp sentinel
&x&r&r&g&g&b&b :^)
potent fossil
probably with a chat plugin that adds support for that
wait does that actually work me
sharp sentinel
That's how Spigot handles it
potent fossil
oh my fuck 😂
sharp sentinel
So any plugin using Spigot colour codes will, yes
cedar spade
If your chat plugin translates & to sections, at least
(or use &#rrggbb if you use EssentialsX Chat)
potent fossil
so TIL using enki at all in the past made a public commit in their repo. Afaik I was just checking out their system for a single exercise in 2016 and im forever in there https://github.com/enkidevs/commit/commit/c578f7152cc6946180be10194e07695d2de1fd16
and GH told them to stop using that bc GH kept having to do manual maintenance because of them committing to that every time someone did an exercise
instead of, idk
using a database perhaps
finite wave
That rgb format is pure disgust
finite wave
cedar spade
That is Spigot's method (though you need to translate colour codes if you're using &)
sharp sentinel
If you use Spigot's ChatColor.translate with &, that's what it'll look like
limber knotBOT
does anybody know how I can get a subdomain to resolve while at the same time setting the ns record of that sub domain to my own server?
potent fossil
each can go up to 255, 0 being the darkest
look up a color picker, choose a color, look at the RGB output
limber knotBOT
trying to get acme dns working again after a server move :S
and now its unable to resolve the auth domain if I point the NS lookup at it too
minor badge
@potent fossil does it support namecheap api
potent fossil
@void void rather, look at the hex output, it'll be like FF, EE, AB (or whatever)...point is 3 pairs of two chars
first is RR, second is GG, last is BB
limber knotBOT
do you mean me Proxi? lol
cedar spade
queue "ew namecheap" comments
minor badge
no, phoenix
potent fossil
that was the wrong tag but we
limber knotBOT
namecheap doesn't even offer api to normal customers
minor badge
lmao namecheap api isnt even free
limber knotBOT
which is why I am using this beauty: https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns-certbot-joohoi
minor badge
holy shit what bad services
limber knotBOT
but I can't get it to work again :S
minor badge
nah im not paying for it simpl
potent fossil
it doesnt seem to be paid?
limber knotBOT
it isn't
minor badge
and i cant log into cloudflare so wee
potent fossil
it's free proxi? wat
minor badge
that was what the issue about namecheap api support said
limber knotBOT
you just have to spend tons of money on domains on namecheap/be a company
potent fossil
lol
limber knotBOT
I already asked namecheap and they said no
minor badge
fucking stupid
potent fossil
well just use another dns provider
steel pulsar
holy shit i hate linux permissions
minor badge
why cant google just offer domains to norwegians
limber knotBOT
running your own dns server is fine though
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
until my server move it worked, lol
golden gust
You literally just need to ChatColor.translate it
worn ember
idk what to think of this logo
golden gust
it works the exact same as having any color in chat
potent fossil
he's tryna do it without code afaik
limber knotBOT
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
cosmic raft
fucking css
I want to center an image horizontally and vertically
why is it so hard
potent fossil
wat
limber knotBOT
wait a fucking second... why do I have API access on namecheap
fucking support guy said I couldn't get it, meanwhile it says that it's enabled since June 2 2018
finite wave
....
potent fossil
&x&e&b&4&0&3&4test
quasi valley
rgb should be in their hex representation and you should replace the literal r g b characters with the singles
azure flower
I want to center an image horizontally and vertically
That's pretty easy these days, use flexbox on the parent. If you don't want to do that and the image affecting the height of the parent isn't important, then position absolute, top left bottom right 0, and margin auto.
worn ember
flexbox is ❤️
azure flower
I do not miss the days of having to use display inline-block and text-align justify to make a grid
Or shudder floats
potent fossil
u mean you dont like float:left, float:right, clear:both? :D
worn ember
cosmic raft
ugh I give up
potent fossil
that's correct @void void
remove the &x in front i guess, not needed
thought it was
np
azure flower
Such a marvellous format
potent fossil
its stupid
finite wave
Pure disgust
quasi valley
made by yours truly, md69
sharp sentinel
Still sad he didn't just add an enum value for every possible RGB combo 😦
azure flower
I assume there is some extremely complicated technical reason they went with that, and it wasn't just for fun?
finite wave
quasi valley
demon has got you covered
sharp sentinel
Anything else probably would've required rewriting the parser
It's a super simple parser so not a big deal at all
But 🤷♀️
quasi valley
BUT MAH LEGACY
tropic phoenix
I think paper is causing an issue where pretty much only every other crop on my farm will grow? Is there a config option to fix this
spice finch
ChatColor2 merge wen
finite wave
He most likely won
tropic phoenix
Also I'm assuming there's a config option to stop dropped items clumping together?
finite wave
't change it now that people are using it.
quasi valley
ah yes, kash is an old granny
finite wave
Chew is the granny here
spice finch
https://github.com/maikgreubel/ChatColor2 hey that's not ChatColor2 which im looking for 
cosmic raft
spice finch
google didn't index it yet or idk
minor badge
@potent fossil 
i got api token, it's now tryna get zones and goes ?name=com
limber knotBOT
so it helps actually installing the acme-dns server Kappa
potent fossil
wat @minor badge
spice finch
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-191388 Link loads forever or its my connection?
Oh wait, it loaded finally
fallen oracle
Morning
Florida be wildin https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/i1zwki/man_holding_onto_hood_of_semi_florida_be_like/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Man holding onto hood of semi, Florida be like : IdiotsInCars - 806 comments, 20,737 points - offthat59south, 15h ago
just use https://github.com/joohoi/acme-dns Proximyst ;)
limber knotBOT
just use a proper format syntax smh
cosmic raft
@fallen oracle https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/hooxj1/dude_dragged_his_boat_from_the_beach/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Dude dragged his boat from the beach : IdiotsInCars - 911 comments, 53,518 points - mimsicle-s, 22d ago
quasi valley
by using parsers like MiniMessage or MineDown
potent fossil
oh fuck that is just painful to watch @cosmic raft
quasi valley
they make writing longer, formatted components actually bearable
potent fossil
christ
quasi valley
I empathise with the street and feel violated
vagrant niche
SpaceX splashdown in about 5.5 hours
cedar spade
SpaceX does deep ocean exploration? TIL
vagrant niche
Place ur bets, success or fireworks
spice finch
rapid unscheduled disassembly
steel pulsar
why
potent fossil
cuz i wanna beeeeeitch
stiff yarrow
I love that sub
steel pulsar
remember whne elon musk tried to make a tunnel network where your car goes
like a tunnel for your car but not actually a tunnel
twin lagoon
it's still a thing
zealous wedge
when he tried to reinvent the subway but worse?
steel pulsar
yea remember that
how come this mans projects all fail miserably
how comethey keep giving him money
zealous wedge
hey spacex hasn't failed yet
steel pulsar
mostly because he's hired competent people to do it
i mean the shit hecomes up with to Solve Problems
zealous wedge
just wait until everyone who's working 60-80 hour weeks burns out :p
steel pulsar
hyperloop bullshit, whatever the vacuum thing was
potent fossil
lol
steel pulsar
it's pretty much failed at this point
potent fossil
yeah, hyperloop hasn't failed...they're still devving and testing
just had a live demo...
zealous wedge
he'll probably build the things
zealous wedge
yeah boring company seems kind of pointless
twin lagoon
you just don't hear about it atm
steel pulsar
they went from a thing that would transport your car, to your car just driving in the tunnel. one car at a time
i've been following it pretty closely
potent fossil
but point is...it's not dead, they're just not showing anything because like idk
pandemic and stuff
nbd, guess it failed doe
void void
yo do y'all know how to make minecraft not startup fullscreen each time you launch it?
steel pulsar
you can divide technology up into two fields, AM and FM
actual machinery and fucking magic
elon musk operates in the 'fucking magic' field
potent fossil
@void void graphics -> full screen -> off
hate musk, love musk, lusting for musk, wanna kill musk
idc
dude does lots of cool shit, at least he tries
void void
but once you fullscreen again, that option turns on?
cedar spade
um
steel pulsar
potent fossil
no, not if you fullscreen the window itself and not the game
cedar spade
yes
steel pulsar
heres ur supertunnel
cedar spade
If you go into fullscreen the game does go into fullscreen
void void
but I dont want the game to startup fullscreen each time
potent fossil
yes, the tunnel idea is a concept and may not make it to production but hey look at that, he thought of it and made a prototype
that's a fuckload more than some can say
spice finch
dude does lots of cool shit, at least he tries
he has alot of money, he can afford experimenting which is cool (and it looks he doesn't really care about loosing it)
potent fossil
yeah, he tries
i dont agree with everything he does, or says, but i certainly dont see the point in all out musk hate
that's jealousy
lmao
steel pulsar
i'm basically pissed that he's a billionaire and a shitty one at that
potent fossil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
spice finch
shitty one at that
potent fossil
that's a whole other issue
spice finch
wdym?
potent fossil
i don't think billionaires should exist, but dont @ me
zealous wedge
meh didn't he get lucky with paypal money and rich parents?
steel pulsar
man routinely fucks up his own stocks and comes up with random bullshit that doesn't work in the field of reality
zealous wedge
some of his businesses produce interesting products
steel pulsar
name one elon musk success
zealous wedge
but i can't see how his style of work is sustainable
tesla's powerwall + solar bits are interesting
potent fossil
i think his ideas are cool, and they may not hit prod or be as originally envisioned, but they're cool and he gets prototypes out
now, about being a billionaire and bad at it, that's a whole other can of beans
but staying in the lane of his projects, he has cool ideas and executes development and prototypes well, he may not carry them to the finish line but i sure do like watching
@vagrant niche wat r u doin
steel pulsar
remember that cool project where he tried to help save some miners and fucked up immensely and was made fun of for like a month straight
potent fossil
remember when you did [insert some embarassing shit] and [insert bully] did [insert action] to you? hilarious kek
cedar spade
I mean, he called the diver who saved them a pedophile with no evidence
steel pulsar
you got me
woven pike
hi guys i need help. since i switched my server from vanilla to paper my gold farm broke and barely spawns any zombified piglins
potent fossil
idk, im not saying the dude is perfect
steel pulsar
his idea was stupid and came from pure fantasy and then he got real pissed when it didn't work
potent fossil
like i said, i dont agree with everything he says/does
i just don't see a reason for all out hate, he does do some cool shit. when it works, it is cool shit. i don't really think you can deny that.
when it fails, it fails.
steel pulsar
it's fun to follow his bullshit but i wouldn't ever think any of it has any value
potent fossil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
steel pulsar
spacex is pretty much ran by other people
vagrant niche
Am doin Jackson > Gson convertin
woven pike
is this the wrong chat?
potent fossil
yeah, i mean, Bill Gates doesn't actively make windows
but he still gets that credit
woven pike
i need help with something paper related where can i get help
vagrant niche
yes
cedar spade
You might more help in #paper-help
potent fossil
#paper-help perhaps
woven pike
thanks
vagrant niche
potent fossil
just an example
steve jobs is dead and still gets credit for mac
idk, my point is that CEOs get credit for stuff their employee's do ¯_(ツ)_/¯
that's just how it goes
spice finch
but he started it (mostly)
limber knotBOT
nah, it's founders that get the credit, not CEOs
spice finch
or just invested money
limber knotBOT
sure, but random CEOs don't get credit ;)
potent fossil
ok phoenix thank you for your wonderful insight
limber knotBOT
only if they were also the founders
how often do you hear people praise Pichai for stuff Google does?
limber knotBOT
not on my end ¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber knotBOT
your message is from 49, I sent on 43
potent fossil
so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
cedar spade
I was saying I got beaten to it phoenix
potent fossil
sometimes, yes, sometimes, no.
limber knotBOT
ah
steel pulsar
this is why real tech companies are mnuch better because the engineers get praised instead of the money guy
steel pulsar
car companies
limber knotBOT
glances at tesla
cedar spade
then again, Google is a bad example because they rarely release any product that gets widespread praise or approval (normally because it gets killed off quickly)
spice finch
facebook isn't made by it's CEO but programmers. Why everyone cares only about CEO
limber knotBOT
because he created facebook, 'duh
vagrant niche
MindGeek, greatest company of em all
potent fossil
MindGeek gr8
I wanna work there
Apparently MindGeek looks like a normal boring office except there is hardcore porn on monitors that hang on the wall
(MindGeek is the parent company of PornHub, and affiliates... 👀 )
vagrant niche
no, mindgeek is a leader in web design, it and web development
spice finch
well i was confused at except there is hardcore porn on monitors but you cleaned it out lol
vagrant niche
stop spoilin the joke simp omg
potent fossil
:/
vagrant niche
u suk at this
vagrant niche
It's me
zealous wedge
why does lax bother you
zealous knot
You can only wish to be this disgusting
zealous knot
Lmao
zealous knot
Or does he know
limber knotBOT
meh, I gave up. I just used a simple webroot cert for now. can't figure out why the acme dns stuff isn't working for new certs anymore :S
but https://howoldisminecraft188.today works now so I guess that's a win?
mental meadow
I love that when you disable JavaScript it just says "Minecraft 1.8.8 is too old!"
limber knotBOT
I couldn't be bothered to set php up for that, lol
or some other serverside scripting
spice finch
Epic site
limber knotBOT
hm, I actually didn't use the correct numbers for calculating the duration
but it only removes one day, not 4 
limber knotBOT
that's wrong, it was the 27th
so my calculation is only 2 days off now, nice xD
steel pulsar
potent fossil
i mean, and correct me if im wrong, but all we (as in modern humanity) know about the construction of the pyramids is
- they're fucking old
- they found a ramp
- they think the sand was moistened first
Cleopatra, the last ruler of Egypt, lived closer to today than the construction of the pyramids. Not even she really knew.
limber knotBOT
wtf, why does javascript's Date#getTime method return a wrong timestamp? Oo
according to unixtimestamp.com 2015-07-27 is 1437955200 but according to javascript its 1440630000
limber knotBOT
I have no idea what javascript does
finite wave
Oh also that
limber knotBOT
hm
potent fossil
such as the server's? which i hope is utc but maybe not
oh wait js
client timezone?
i think it might be bc for aurora it said 9 days, mine says 8
potent fossil
o
finite wave
2 days offset seems.. if it's timezones
limber knotBOT
I kinda hoped javascript had some cool autoamtic duration formatting but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
the one day offset was due to me just using 365 year and 30 month lengths
moved that to the avarages now and that removes the one day
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
don't really care about the 100% exact durations, lmao
finite wave
So now there is only up to 1 days offset?
potent fossil
i personally use moment.js for date formatting as the js stdlib for dates is pepega ag
af*
moment is also nice bc i18n
(automatic) i18n
limber knotBOT
hm
worn ember
phoenix616 why not just make one for all versions like stef did 
potent fossil
kek
limber knotBOT
it's a direct reference to https://howoldisminecraft1710.today
worn ember
then what you gonna do when someoen asks for support on 1.5.2
limber knotBOT
🖕
finite wave
steel pulsar
not complete until it supports infdev>1.16.2
worn ember
now make an algorithm to produce accurate results on the next mc release
so we can do .eta and it'll actually display a data instead
*date
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
I mean you could calculate the avarage between each major and minor release and create it based on that
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
make it us an "AI" too ;D
limber knotBOT
potent fossil
steel pulsar
he bought it through google
vagrant niche
I wonder if we can crossbreed a llama and a giraffe
vagrant niche
How cool would that be
finite wave
.g llama and giraffe crossbred filetype:jpg
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) No results found.
finite wave
nope
cedar spade
did you search pngs?
finite wave
Who uses pngs smh.
finite wave
What did he do
potent fossil
I wonder if we can crossbreed a llama and a giraffe
potent fossil
spice finch
thats what im talking about
finite wave
tropic phoenix
I'm having an issue after updating to paper only every other plant will grow. Any suggestions to fix this?
potent fossil
?
vagrant niche
Ask paper support
limber knotBOT
don't think you can crossbreed them: https://phoenix616.dev/📷/fH2XYurl.png lol
steel pulsar
you can crossbreed anything inthe sme tree
vagrant niche
You think we can make smol cute llama/alpacas breeds like we have breeds of dogs?
limber knotBOT
I don't think it's possible with different chromosome counts, no?
finite wave
Correct phoenix
vagrant niche
You can make hippo dolphin hybrid
cedar spade
Lax stop
limber knotBOT
probably watching Dragons instead of sleeping 👀
vagrant niche
I'm afraid I'd dream of you
cedar spade
Tyrannosaurus Laxative
vagrant niche
Weapons grade laxative
tropic phoenix
Oh ok I'll ask there thwbks
mental meadow
limber knotBOT
rip all of india, lol
finite wave
worn ember
huehue
vagrant niche
Anyone know that snowboarding game on old windows where a snowman tries to kill you I think
That was my fav game
austere ivy
at this point I’m not sure if old nostalgia games I think I remember existing were real or just fever dreams
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://ski.ihoc.net/ -- The Most Officialest SkiFree Home Page: "Microsoft SkiFree 1.0. History. In 1991 I was working at Microsoft as a programmer, writing programming utilities for use by other programmers, such..."
tropic phoenix
Hey guys, I want my players to drop some XP but keep items on death, how can I enable this?
limber knotBOT
set keepInventory but not keepExp in the event
tropic phoenix
How would I do that?
limber knotBOT
with a plugin?
worn ember
the magic power of friendship
mental meadow
Friendship is magic
limber knotBOT
🦄
dense flower
Halloooo
steel pulsar
friendship is piss
worn ember
@grand pewter did you make any changes for end worlds location searching?
short yarrow
So if I'm unit testing a function that queries a database. If I mock the result when database.getPerson() is called with the parameter "JohnDoe", it doesn't seen like it really proves the method works properly. So what's the point of doing this?
limber knotBOT
depends on what you want to test
worn ember
its good to test data integrity since you know what the result will be
limber knotBOT
e.g. for databases the parsing of the database entry to the java object or vice-versa would be the most common think to test
*thing
short yarrow
yeah but shouldn't that be done as an integration test? for unit tests you usually have to mock everything
i'm writing my first unit test where I have to mock stuff and it feels pretty dang weird
worn ember
its just so you can get data to work with without actually touching the db
cuz that can get expensive when working with cloud services
worn ember
template engine?
potent fossil
unbuffered means not sent to output, as per their docs. yet, unbuffered just put some fucking data in my output
and i can't get interpolation to work without using unbuffered
yes template engine
finite wave
.spacex
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A SpaceX Falcon 9 is scheduled to launch from KSC LC 39A in 3 days 12 hours 47 minutes
worn ember
no i havent
potent fossil
wtf
ok, i dont see the fucking point of pug having unbuffered/buffered output if when you want to do string interpolation they tell you to throw that shit out of the window and just use plaintext
fucking trash
im switching template engines
gone and pissed me off with your retarded dev decisions
worn ember
void void
pug is 
anyway
i remember when it was named jade
was more professional
but got cucked by a trademark
so they had to switch
cosmic raft
@potent fossil what template engine
limber knotBOT
mfw NASA is using NightBot to moderate their twitch stream
unkempt drift
lol
spice finch
Tiktok gets banned in USA? 
fiery tapir
is there actually a ban yet? i know trump wants one but i haven't really heard much about anything actually happening yet
serene bolt
nope, just "talk"
limber knotBOT
tiktok should b banned, and dumcord 2
wide chasm
Yes, let's ban everything
limber knotBOT
no
we only ban bad stuff
but
if you only use and recognize bad stuff, I can see how that would be "everything" to you c:
in which case, yes
wide chasm
I stopped using Reddit after their garbage rules changes
So that's one bad thing off the list 🙂
limber knotBOT
o wut iz dis
limber knotBOT
I don't
I hate 1.8.8
I want to hear about the reddit changes I don't really follow much of reddit itself just browse subreddits time to time via apps
austere ivy
what's wrong with 1.16?
limber knotBOT
and yes, I hate 1.8 users
still cosmos
what's wrong with 1.16?
nether
limber knotBOT
inb4 referring to the child porn ban 😓
austere ivy
stylistic consistency failures?
mhm, I see
feels too much like a mod for your taste?
limber knotBOT
1.16 nether is awesome
it finally got an update after how many years? lol
only thing its missing is the full height world generation
wide chasm
They changed the rules to disallow racism againt minorities, but explicitly allowed racism against majorities, which is stupid
spice finch
had it update since it arrived to minecraft?
austere ivy
racism is bad, but racism is ok
limber knotBOT
that's racist, stefvanschie
still cosmos
if like the fortress wasn't so hard to find and my laptop was actually good i wouldnt mind 1.16
still cosmos
i hate 1.9 cuz combat is bad
potent fossil
I like that CF added this https://i.imgur.com/RbnJbKL.png
limber knotBOT
s/bad/good
austere ivy
ah, bad computer.
limber knotBOT
Correction, <DiscordBot> <12l1ttle> i hate 1.9 cuz combat is good
austere ivy
what's your laptop from 2012?
limber knotBOT
lul wow, at leas their finally upfront about it
still cosmos
lag isnt really the reason i dont like 1.16
limber knotBOT
wow I failed that sentence
s/leas their/least they're
Correction, <RoboMWM> lul wow, at least they're finally upfront about it
still cosmos
the fortress rareness is the reason i dont like 1.16
i dont hate 1.16 i just dont like it
still cosmos
1.10? i dont even know what got updated there
limber knotBOT
we should return to alpha
austere ivy
alright, what about 1.11?
limber knotBOT
they broke my separated ladders
anyone remember the time u could climb ladders that were separated by a block
still cosmos
alright, what about 1.11?
i like it
fallen oracle
Wait, can you not anymore?
limber knotBOT
I also did miss boat elevators in 1.9 so there is that
still cosmos
from the quick google search i just did
steel pulsar
everything turned into blocks
austere ivy
further proof that 1.10, 1.11, and 1.12 should've been one update
no one remembers what 1.10 and 1.11 changed
limber knotBOT
geri gotta a ton of addon suggestions for GP lol
austere ivy
it was just a mesh from 1.10 to 1.12
still cosmos
they added exploration stuff so its not as boring after you beat the game
and shulker boxes
they are cool but i never got to use them lol
limber knotBOT
@tawdry holly have fun lol https://github.com/techfortress/GriefPrevention/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A"Add-on+Suggestion"
tawdry holly
ty lol
still cosmos
the most i liked are 1.13 and 1.14 cuz swimming and finally a fast and consistant way to get enderpearls
limber knotBOT
what do you need enderpearls for in the age of Elytra? lol
still cosmos
to beat the game
steel pulsar
hpenix forgot that you need the pearls to find where the portal is
quasi valley
phoenix just calculates the pos and prays that it has all ender eyes filled in ;)
serene bolt
determined by seed as with every other structure
still cosmos
everything is determined by the seed
stiff yarrow
has anyone tried out the JVM flag for Java 14 (on by default in Java 15) for more specific null pointers? seems nifty
finite wave
I think proxi has used the more detailed code thingy stuff
minor badge
i have
it's very nice
it says shit like "field.getMethod()" is null for field.getMethod().woah()
true canyon
Here's some fun details on the null pointer stuff https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/358
limber knotBOT
the new NPE stuff is the best
serene bolt
you said fortresses, not strongholds
worn ember
well we were talking about the end portal
still cosmos
stronghold is tied to the seed
worn ember
"All strongholds are located at random coordinates within rings, each ring with a certain radius from the origin"
Well ig the word "random" here is open to interpretation.
still cosmos
its random because the seeds are random
see it yourself
set any seed
use /locate Stronghold
create a world with the same seed
type /locate Stronghold again
and boom same coords
worn ember
yeah ig thatmakes sense
yt plz
recommending me 11 year old videos smh
i'm not that old
twin lagoon
worn ember
someone make a mc benchmark mod
worn ember
lmao
limber knotBOT
lol
worn ember
isnt he just waiting for green light to land?
limber knotBOT
that's actually Dragon 👀
worn ember
oh
potent fossil
lmao. only vivaldi is fucking giving me nxdomain
limber knotBOT
sorry, should've used /s
potent fossil
firefox works fine
worn ember
simp, stop using dum browsers
worn ember
probably is
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
pretty insnae that this data is public, no wonder somalia pirates are so successful 👀
vernal moth
Well, it's for captains
limber knotBOT
ik, just intesting how easy it is to pirate nowadays lol
potent fossil
https://nextminecraftupdatewhen.com
there, i wasted my time to do it. the math is probably faulty. it's more of a meme than an actual thing so meh
potent fossil
i copied from https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_version_history
from pre-classic until the top
¯_(ツ)_/¯
spice finch
so every snapshot?
vernal moth
This is the tracking for the plane btw
potent fossil
yes like 184 lines or smth
vernal moth
spice finch
lol
limber knotBOT
should really only use full releases, lol
spice finch
include infdev
limber knotBOT
well the last release definitly wasn't 7 days ago, lol
worn ember
smh
limber knotBOT
did you make June July? xD
limber knotBOT
and yes, I would not include anything before 1.0.0
simply because their development process changed a lot over the years
potent fossil
yea am gonna do that
im remaking the dates file
aight im starting at 1.0
from 2011
and full releases, no dev releases (included atm)
limber knotBOT
alpha skews it massively anyways: https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Java_Edition_version_history#Alpha
potent fossil
ye ;p
steel pulsar
what is this project
potent fossil
just a meme
worn ember
ur welcome for the idea 😉
potent fossil
bitch, stop trying to take credit
worn ember
lmfao
worn ember
i just like to mention every once in a while that i'm not completely useless 
potent fossil
worn ember
hazy veldt
Maybe do one for releases and one for snapshots?
worn ember
maybe do one for roblox too ktnx
potent fossil
fuck off ded
waxen panther
ah yes a 2x σ
spice finch
simp your nickname now looks like..
grand slate
don't say that, it just reminds me of meatspin
vernal moth
3 minutes till we get Video from that plane
limber knotBOT
"We have always associated Apple with luxury, premium, and exclusivity, or overpriced technology if you dislike Apple." lmao
Good afternoon
I slept from 3 am to 1 pm
spice finch
Good afternoon
limber knotBOT
Is that a good schedule?
limber knotBOT
Defiantly or definitely
serene bolt
voice chats are how you destroy sleep schedules
limber knotBOT
What time did you wake up pure
serene bolt
11:30
limber knotBOT
Wait hold on that was 10 hours of sleep oof
spice finch
Thanks for correcting, it helps learning this language 
limber knotBOT
I'll be going to bed in 12 lol
spice finch
Always used definatly
limber knotBOT
Defiantly is bold disobedience
definitely is absolutely
Don't worry native English speakers don't even know
unreal quarry
potent fossil
Ok, that's much better lmao https://nextminecraftupdatewhen.com/
using only 1.x versions, full releases only and also fixed the last released day bc i was doing that incorrectly kek
serene bolt
the next release will probably be within the next 12 to 16 days.
Hype!
potent fossil
Or, you know, maybe not. It'll be ready when it's ready. You don't like bugs, do you?
👀
serene bolt
no stop don't destroy my hopes like that! No small text!
cedar spade
fixed
potent fossil
oh you know
limber knotBOT
you should make it use an AI and train it 
vernal moth
cedar spade
today in simple learns maths
steel pulsar
make it in wingdings
quasi valley
crickets
true canyon
@vernal moth Did they just say "space dads" on stream.
vernal moth
Yes
true canyon
Lordy.
vernal moth
That's how SpaceX calls their test bunny's
twin lagoon
kinky
true canyon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg time to splash
twin lagoon
they're there
limber knotBOT
because they both have kids :P
twin lagoon
true canyon
sploosh
potent fossil
ok there fixed, now it says 12 to 28 days, not 12 to 16 and i hope that's right but you know what
at this point, whatever
kek
next time someone asks for an eta im adding that tho
twin lagoon
@potent fossil eta
serene bolt
the next release will probably be within the next 12 to 28 days.
my hopes were destroyed
potent fossil
it does illustrate the point tho
even looking at avg releases and taking the standard deviation thereof, the estimation range is far too broad
so, eta impossible
proved, with science
serene bolt
yeah, it's accurate enough though that it feels like it'd be useful, like the number range seems about right to me
potent fossil
yea i mean, just doing math on the days between each release
we'll see ¯_(ツ)_/¯
meh
olive marlin
Wouldn't it changed based on that like a year or 2 ago Mojang announced new release schedule? The 2 updates a year, one smaller one bigger? Or something like that.
worn ember
next release within the year
potent fossil
actually lmao i just realized something else
the standard deviation goes both ways
so the fucking estimate is "between tomorrow and 28 days from now" @serene bolt
grand pewter
@worn ember no i didn't make any changes to it, thanks for reminding me though because i will probably end up looking into that today
serene bolt
lmao
potent fossil
i really shouldn't be trying to do stats without understanding it
but guess what bitches
i am
worn ember
literally me with maths
grand pewter
oh i did standard deviation stuff a while ago
potent fossil
yeah im pretty sure this standard deviation is wrong
it shouldn't be that big, certainly not larger than the average
perhaps...
potent fossil
yeah the stdev should be < the avg it was calculated from
somehow, mine is bigger
kekw
worn ember
certainly not larger than the average
potent fossil
ok either i did the math wrong or mojang is retarded and creates a rare SD with their release dates
grand pewter
well actually
not rarely, but depends on the data XD
if it has huge outliers the standard deviation could get big
potent fossil
grand pewter
even if the average remains small
potent fossil
thats waht im talking about
im quite sure im not using stdev correctly for the second line
but also, im starting to think im just straight up not calculating it right
grand pewter
how far back are you going with releases
potent fossil
1.0 to 1.16.1
grand pewter
then probably not
potent fossil
yea, i think i just did something wrong, gonna check it
potent fossil
👀
grand pewter
or
are you differentiating minor releases from major
cause it might be good to do them separately
potent fossil
no
stiff yarrow
I hope everyone has a lovely day today 
potent fossil
i mean this is more of a meme than a proper statistical project, however even so i do want the math that is actually there to be correct kekw
potent fossil
great question i have no idea, ill find out
grand pewter
get like 5 values or something
doesnt need to be crazy but just so you know its being calculated right
potent fossil
yea, hold on. before i go get those, here's how im calculating standard deviation
function calcStdDev(arr, mu) {
return Math.round(Math.sqrt(calcAvg(
arr.map(days =>
Math.pow(
days - mu,
2
)
)
)))
mu = simple average (51)
arr = array of days between releases, from 1.0 to 1.16.1
seems right tho: take mu (avg), for each day count subtract mu and square that, then calculate the avg of those and take the square root. i round bc i dont want the decimal but that should be inconsequential
sec let me go get a small dataset
grand pewter
i think you might be trying to do too much at once there in that function lol
but yeah get like 3-5 values of days
potent fossil
[6, 49, 49, 1, 20, 13]
finite wave
Math 👨🏾
limber knotBOT
not just being lazy and using a neural net
grand pewter
mu = (6 + 49 + 49 + 1 + 20 + 13) / 6 = 23
so now the sum of each value - mu quantity squared for the top bit (not gonna write it out but will check it)
grand pewter
sum of i got 2234
worn ember
grand pewter
sqrt(2234/6) = 19.3
potent fossil
thats the stdev you got?
grand pewter
yeah so avg 23 stdev ~19
potent fossil
hm ok
potent fossil
however, just tossed the full data set in this thing and it's right https://i.imgur.com/PVu4Y02.png
grand pewter
maybe i did it wrong lol idk
potent fossil
no, 19 is right for the smaller dataset
grand pewter
oh ok
potent fossil
hmm, just not sure how to interpret this
if avg is 51 and stdev is 55, what's this mean?
grand pewter
then its good
limber knotBOT
how about filtering hotpatches too? (versions that released only a couple of days after the last one)
potent fossil
my thought was avg is 51 but could be 51+55
grand pewter
yeah thats what i mentioned phoenix
grand pewter
cause the minor patches release very differently from major
potent fossil
yea i can do that
grand pewter
yeah simp afaik its approximately avg+/-stdev
although going into negative wont make sense for days
potent fossil
here, just, which ones should i take out? https://paste.jacobandersen.dev/nizifuhute.js
grand pewter
well i'd do one for major releases so all the .0's
then maybe average each version's minor patches
potent fossil
and fair enough, if stdev > avg then ill show a range of 0-(avg+stdev) days
grand pewter
from the .0's
limber knotBOT
just auto remove any that have < 3 days of difference
limber knotBOT
or well, not remove, add to the diff to the next version that took longer
potent fossil
thanks btw fellas
grand pewter
hmmm idk about straight up deleting data if you want it to be accurate
potent fossil
i mean, it's really just where am i starting and what am i counting
'next update' is the question im trying to answer (in meme form)
limber knotBOT
1.2.1, 1.2.2 and 1.2.3 are major hotpatch versions
grand pewter
for starters i would just this for all of the .0 releases since those are major
limber knotBOT
and all of the stuff that released on teh same day
1.8.5 was also a dead version as well as 1.7.6/1.7.7
and 1.7.8 too, lol
grand pewter
oh also speaking of ^
potent fossil
i should've made this an api so i could make a frontend that can fluidly switch between .0 releases, all 1.x releases, and then what i did before with literally everything kek
maybe later
grand pewter
if you did want this to be accurate, you should be listing each date twice in the list for the ones that released on the same day
potent fossil
so what should i do, remove stuff, or add all 1.x including dupes for same day stuff
grand pewter
depends on what you want
potent fossil
i just wanna be a memelord