i think phoenix's suggestion was very reasonable
#general
waxen panther
π¨π½βπ¬
grand pewter
yeah but just be consistent about what you're removing
don't at random remove stuff
limber knotBOT
that's basically what you have to always do when doing statistics: remove the outliers
grand pewter
yeah removing outliers is fine
potent fossil
mmmok, well, im removing those <= 3 days between releases then
grand pewter
also removing a specific type of data is fine if you want to filter it to major versions only, minor versions only, etc
potent fossil
actually you know what
twin lagoon
potent fossil
im not gonna remove anything, and im gonna add those dupe data points. later, ill make it an api and the frontend will include a tool to drilldown and remove versions etc, if so desired
limber knotBOT
yeah doing a combination of major and minor release prediction might actually be the best, lol
grand pewter
yep thats what i was saying π
cause the minor versions release on a very different schedule
if you want to predict major, you probably shouldnt include minor
limber knotBOT
first predict how long it takes for one major release to happen, then calculate how long it takes for a minor release to come out between majors
potent fossil
ima just include everything in the api, and then the frontend can do the analysis questions like if you want to view major, minor, or both
grand pewter
sounds good
just keep in mind if you want to do this for minor
you might have to do it for minor for each version and then average it
because otherwise you include jumps from the last minor version of one version to the first minor version of another
finite wave
Is it down to the nanosecond? Else i will be super disappointed /s
grand pewter
to the day π
potent fossil
yeah so for each major, take the average of its minors, then average all those?
or did i misunderstand you
potent fossil
i think i see what you're saying
grand pewter
i can give a concrete example
potent fossil
anyway, im starting to become delusional. pulled an all nighter lmao, i need to make it another 6 hrs
grand pewter
so lets say 1.2.1, 1.2.2, and 1.2.3 all came out several days from each other
but then 1.3.1 came out like 500 days after 1.2.3 (theoretically)
if you want to predict for the next minor version after the current major, you do not want to say it's going to be hundreds of days away
the measurements are relevant only with respect to each major version
limber knotBOT
main issue there is that you would also need to predict if another minor release is about to happen
potent fossil
oh yea, makes sense kek
grand pewter
yeah thats another issue
but this project isnt even going to be remotely close to realistic anyway mojang is unpredictable
just try your best on the data 
waxen panther
I think just major versions would be the easiest / most interesting anyway
potent fossil
i can look how minors each major has, and then check the probability that another minor will occur based on how many there already are 
grand pewter
major would be good/easy yea
limber knotBOT
yeah, you can't even know when they release when they already have a pre release and set a release date, lol
limber knotBOT
only doing major releases might be the best for that site tbh. just say "major Minecraft update" ;D
finite wave
Remember keywords like
potent fossil
hmm, yea... yall think the minors skew the data too much?
waxen panther
MACHINE LEARNING
limber knotBOT
yeah
waxen panther
NEURAL CONSTRUCT
grand pewter
you could do the minors if you do it well, but its almost not worth doing anyways
finite wave
BIG NEWS! MAJOR UPDATE! MINECRAFT 1.XX RELEASE DATE ANNOUNCED/LEAKED
potent fossil
i mean i might do the minors later as a funzie experiment
limber knotBOT
I mean, technically 1.16.2 isn't a minor one but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
grand pewter
if you want to be quick just do majors
potent fossil
but yea, am just gonna do majors.
waxen panther
minecraft 2 release date prediction
grand pewter
also dont take my 2nd to last comment out of context please
limber knotBOT
π
serene bolt
potent fossil
ok, so like, 1.0.0 -> 1.1...is that still a minor update or is that major 
wait
ok im stupid
that's major
grand pewter
go to sleep
finite wave
limber knotBOT
yeah, we call patch versions minor, minors major and ignore the majore ones like Firefox and Java did
vestal jasper
@waxen panther
grand pewter
vestal jasper
?
vagrant niche
Thanks for purchasing my bath water simp.
serene bolt
@grand pewter
limber knotBOT
mojang is totally gonna pull a "We are actually already on Minecraft 20" on us π
vestal jasper
Yw lax
potent fossil
hehe, this is when doing majors only https://i.imgur.com/4BnoBKy.png
(not live yet)
grand pewter
that seems more feasible than the 50 days thing
potent fossil
for majors, yes
waxen panther
the average makes more sense for majors too
avg is a bad metric for grouped numbers
potent fossil
thats why im including standard deviation
limber knotBOT
should add a web notifications to the site so that you can get notified when it thinks that a new version should release Kappa
potent fossil
however, im not representing it right
phoenix ur making me want to make an ai for this shit
its a meme
limber knotBOT
;P
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@waxen panther hewo
waxen panther
@minor badge hewwo
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@waxen panther hai how are chu >-<
finite wave
yessssssssssssssss
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:3 im epic
waxen panther
does paper do asynchronous async calls?
fallen oracle
No, those are sync.
finite wave
I think proxi has a pr for that tho
minor badge
i hab a PR for evwything :3
twin lagoon
uwu
finite wave
limber knotBOT
treasure map fix pr wen?
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i really dont want to look into them
finite wave
Who does 
limber knotBOT
you just have to figure out Codecs!
serene bolt
codecs are sinful, we're screwed
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i mean, with MCP or yarn i could probably figure out enough on how they work to make something work
finite wave
Dooo it
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grr
worn ember
limber knotBOT
blows up 2 stacks of tnt, tps goes down to 19. break a ton of netherrack very fast, tps goes down to 10
fun
finite wave
stop breaking netherrack then
spice finch
and blowing 2 stacks of tnt
spice finch
you got me
worn ember
10 rounds up to 20 too
limber knotBOT
hmm
but normally i get 20.01 tps
so that would mean it needs to be 10.05
to round up
worn ember
well thats not what you said
worn ember
despawn the nether
spice finch
but if we round to tens then 10 rounds up to 10
worn ember
well then everything would be ten
spice finch
by tens i mean 10,20,30,40...
finite wave
Wouldnβt ten round down to ten?
knotty rose
quick question: is better velocity or waterfall for a net? i use waterfall for my testing net currently
quasi valley
I'm currently watching 'Mother!'
and wow, that has to be the worst film I have ever and will ever see
finite wave
Is that ehm, a movie?
quasi valley
yes
spice finch
what's difference between film and movie
finite wave
I asked before he wrote film
knotty rose
Velocity is great
but its better than waterfall? if so, why?
finite wave
Cause itβs great clearly
worn ember
Yes and yes
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://forums.spongepowered.org/t/velocity-the-modern-minecraft-proxy/25426 -- Velocity - the modern Minecraft proxy - General Discussion...: "Velocity is the next-generation Minecraft server proxy built specifically for ... It is being used in production networks today with upwards of a..."
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sponge says π ±οΈelocity
worn ember
i mean, both probably work fine
knotty rose
well a post from the lead developer of velocity will always say velocity is better
worn ember
its not like either of them has to do the heavy lifting anyway
knotty rose
i want an impartial opinion
finite wave
Iβm imprtial
spice finch
go into src then
finite wave
Velocity is great
worn ember
i doubt you'd even be able to tell the difference
finite wave
You will if you are coding shit for it
Also in my experience velocity has better error messages
minor badge
i'm not unbiased. i'm using both, velocity is the best by far
knotty rose
well i guess as paper is a fork of bungee and paper a fork of spigot and md-5 developed bungee for linking spigot servers bungee will perform well, i never used plugin msg and that kind of things, but probably thats gonna work better with a fork of bungee
worn ember
md5 -> perform well 
finite wave
No, it doesn't matter that md5 made spigot and also bungee.
knotty rose
i can explain better
minor badge
BungeeCord was and will always be a mere proof of concept
Velocity is a product from that PoC which is actually meant for use
finite wave
And the dev is actually sane
minor badge
because we try to make the best of the situation
minor badge
nobody here knows nor cares, skipzy
finite wave
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oh i thought u meant the actual docs lmao
finite wave
Should i take mineacademy course to be a good script kiddie?
finite wave
true
wide chasm
Might then just get JetBrains Academy that is actually good
knotty rose
talking abut scripts.... some days ago i seen a behind scenes of a mc server and i think they used SKRIPT lmao
finite wave
I can get that for free by actually coding stuff.. atleast for 2 months stef.
wide chasm
True. I grabbed it just before they changed to a paid model, so have it until 2021 I think.
finite wave
I see
knotty rose
no but a big server
not a small one
i tried to use skript to make a ctw plugin when i was 9/10 i dont remember and i had a localhost server
potent fossil
can i make this the official image of nextminecraftupdatewhen https://i.imgur.com/5iGdjkv.png
knotty rose
then i decided to learn java and learn to work with spigot/paper api and its way easier
finite wave
Skript transpiler to java when
wide chasm
I get the idea of Skript, but some of the scripts I've seen are so difficult to read, that the entire premise is gone.
I think there's an open issue for that Jan
knotty rose
well my code is difficult to read
wide chasm
Imo, that's an entirely different project, but
finite wave
They are probably too lazy to do it
knotty rose
when i was learning java i hated to comment stuff
and now im trying to comment things but...
well, you get it xD
finite wave
I don't really comment my own stuff if i got no clue what i'm going for.
zealous knot
shut the fuck up jan truck
limber knotBOT
ouch
finite wave
@zealous knot Please stop harassing me my good sir.
wide chasm
I do javadocs and no other comments
zealous knot
wtf
wide chasm
Maybe a couple inline, but that's it
zealous knot
who has time for javadocs
i'm trying to fucking launch a rocket here sir, aint nobody got time for javadocs
wide chasm
My code is 44% comments iirc
limber knotBOT
when papermc/papermc.io#42 gets merged youre gonna get sniped
finite wave
Apparently you can't write an os in Java
zealous knot
thank god
knotty rose
My code is 44% comments iirc
my code is probably 1% comments xd
finite wave
Stef, your comments are way too long
zealous knot
everything he does is fucking over the top
wide chasm
Javadocs takes very long, but imo is worth it
zealous knot
he worked on some skript shit for like 3 year IIRC
zealous knot
that's sad
wide chasm
That's been going for 5 years
wide chasm
Yes
wide chasm
:(
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@potent fossil 
potent fossil
@minor badge stanky
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no u
serene bolt
actually seems kinda cool for people starting out and trying to visualize the flow of code
potent fossil
and ok, i think its good now (i mean, lmao, as good as it's gonna be until im less tired and want to make it better)
https://nextminecraftupdatewhen.com/
also https://nextminecraftupdatewhen.com/versions.json
so u can see the dataset ig
upper flicker
me waiting for next gen ryzen like
potent fossil
serene bolt
I'm still using my 4790k as my main cpu π
upper flicker
its uh been a good chip, OC'd well but uh, time to move on
next gen ryzen when amd
serene bolt
every time I think about upgrading, I'm like "ehhh I can hold on a bit longer until the next way better thing comes out"
knotty rose
What is hthis
i seen a visual plugin creator some tima ago, it didnt work
but its not the same
stray oyster
I had to go with team intel because of the direct instruction emulation support
Tfw I wanted a threadripper
upper flicker
Im planning on getting the 3950x equivalent whenever they launch next gen
cant quite convince myself to go threadripper
fallen oracle
Thread machine go brrr
upper flicker
at least you have 10
knotty rose
in the other side, that visual plugin creator makes people think that bigplugins dont have effort behind
upper flicker
rocking 4 isnt fun when youve got VMs spinning and visual studio going
stray oyster
Still not enough to analyze stuff quickly in IDAq
it takes so long to analyze kernel binary images with this setup
Iβm seriously considering upgrading again
Cause this was just a bust
upper flicker
if you can get away without upgrading your gpu, shouldnt be too awful
stray oyster
I got a 11gb 2070
*8gb
Wanted nothing overkill and was able to get that one fairly cheap
My issue is just
I still cant go with team red for cpu
And high frequency Xeons are very expensive
Not to mention Iβd need LR or ECC ram
upper flicker
I wouldnt expect intel to get its shit together on that front for a few generations yet, you might be stuck then :/
unless you happen across some dosh to pay the xeon tax
stray oyster
Yea tell me something new. If I were to go and get the best AMD cpu it would still be dwarved by the poor AMD support in my use cases
Some software is just downright built like that
Well back to it I guess
toxic ember
is there any command that lets you set the repair cost of an item
stray oyster
Iβm sure you could modify it with a command in vanilla
data merge entity <yourself> ... inventory whatever
stiff yarrow
Based AMD
waxen panther
smoky python
Well how do you explain this
pseudo ridge
I'm working on developing a factions server. We have two in-game currencies (tokens and dollars). Dollars is the standard currency like in most factions servers, and tokens are a more desired currency. I am looking for a method or plugin that could enable the execution of the token command (eg. /token give {player}) to a player after every hour of play time they achieve. I hope you guys can understand what i am trying to do. Thanks x
olive marlin
@pseudo ridge there's plenty of PlaytimeRewards plugins that can do that.
vestal jasper
Mods ban this guy he's stealing my cat >:(
smoky python
The only mod that is allowed to ban me is darkeye
left swift
Teleporting cat
pseudo ridge
@olive marlin I am aware of these plugins, however they are GUI based. I'm looking for something that will just execute a command via console or whatever.
vestal jasper
@worn ember
potent fossil
this looks like it'll do what you want @pseudo ridge https://github.com/NyaaCat/PlayTimeTracker
doesn't seem to be posted on spigot though, but if you're developing a factions server im sure you have a dev so just have them fork it and compile it for you, then maintain it for you
pseudo ridge
@potent fossil I shall take a look. Thank you for your time!
potent fossil
sure
pseudo ridge
@potent fossil In terms of forking and compiling, if this is not an option, whats my best bet?
potent fossil
i guess go on spigot and hire somebody to compile it for you (one off, no maintenance)
or, compile it yourself...you just need gradle installed
and jdk
however, if you don't know how to do that, just don't. it'll confuse you and you'll be sad.
pseudo ridge
haha ty @granite salmon
potent fossil
kekw
worn ember
@vestal jasper ?
pseudo ridge
@spare venture Okay... now
@spare venture Could you DM me? π
what you have just sent
i have a few questions
potent fossil
you should save that GitHub link for when MC updates and you need to get that jar updated, before you lose it and start relying on the plugin
just a tip
pseudo ridge
Don't worry, i have already zipped it
potent fossil
yea, just saying if they start relying on that one specifically
pseudo ridge
i need one without a GUI @spare venture
Is there any like Skript thing i could make?
HEHE
pseudo ridge
AH
vestal jasper
Bort test my plugin you shithead
pseudo ridge
lel
vestal jasper
Barty sorry autocorrect
limber knotBOT
who is bort
viral hornet
you still spelt barry wrong
vestal jasper
No the other one
knotty rose
Dming people its not allowed by discord tos, i mean dming with the other person not wanting to be dmes
vestal jasper
Uranium
pseudo ridge
Sometimes, when i close my eyes... I cant see.
vestal jasper
I couldn't repro issues but I did fix some other ones
knotty rose
Well wasnt here posted a visual plugin creator? The guy who needs a plugin for idk what can try it
potent fossil
say what
knotty rose
Id recommend them to learn something tho, if you are running a server without dev....
fallen oracle
For what
fallen oracle
Yikes. Did you give him permission to?
limber knotBOT
professionals have STANDARDS
worn ember
@latent valve smh 2 games in a row i need to support a sven who has 0 impact all game 
its a hero from dota
i did second most damage in my team as a fucking pos 5 <.<
true canyon
@worn ember I had an offline sniper support who rushed aghs so... I feel the pain.
finite wave
Dafuq is a pos5
true canyon
Sure, can be legit, but they had literally 0 impact all game.
worn ember
yeah that sucks
idm supporting if my carries are not braindead
every time i get close to 3k i get stupid teammates and i start dropping again
guess i reached my ceiling already
true canyon
oof
true canyon
Great way to get low prio, MrEDok
latent valve
nah
worn ember
haha
latent valve
techie is fun 
potent fossil
fucking github spammers man https://github.com/MCBanners/website/pull/18
worn ember
his techies is pretty good
potent fossil
π
limber knotBOT
you know you can disable that, right?
pseudo ridge
@potent fossil I managed to sort the PlayTime Reward Issue
potent fossil
sweet
limber knotBOT
no idea, lol
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wtf
pseudo ridge
errrm
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your irl name isnt Sexy Authority, @potent fossil ????????????
potent fossil
wat
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i checked ur github 
serene bolt
a n g y
potent fossil
legally, i am Jacob
but in this trash subculture, i am Sexy Authority
@minor badge
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potent fossil
excuse me
ancient bolt
The fact that SomeClass.class can't be applied to SomeClass<?> is such java bullshit
limber knotBOT
god I wish viaversion would auto update -.- the amounts of times I start one of my test servers and have a client with the wrong version open is getting annoying
just cast it 
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not sure if possible without breaking redstone as a whole, barty
ancient bolt
mfw literally the point of generics
(Class<JsonTrailParser<?>>) (Class<?>) JsonTrailParser.class beautiful
serene bolt
Exploit
fallen oracle
I feel like that's a bug. You'd think that would execute a physics event for that, but it's just bypassing it.
minor badge
oh yes its definitely a bug
wide chasm
Generics being invariant makes sense to some extent.
ancient bolt
I just wish the wildcard ? generic type could be special-cased when assigned from a raw type
all it means is "An unknown generic type" which is a subset of raw types
ancient bolt
I fixed it by removing the generic type from the class 
wide chasm
When code doesn't work, just remove it :)
ancient bolt
Oh another fix would be to allow generic class literals like SomeClass<?>.class
It doesn't mean anything at runtime, sure
but it has semantic meaning at compile time
which is true for all generics
wide chasm
Personally would then prefer something like SomeClass.<?>class, but yes in essence
zealous wedge
that's why we have TypeTokens demon
ancient bolt
oh god type tokens are the worst
zealous wedge
they're an awful hack but thry exist
all of Java's generic reflection api is garbage tho so what do you expect
ancient bolt
Unfortunately the JDK's ServiceLoader doesn't support type tokens π
zealous wedge
yikes
wide chasm
Reified generics would be nice
ancient bolt
yeah no kidding
zealous wedge
like the fact that you basically need an extra library to work with generic types is terrible
wide chasm
Maybe one day in the future
zealous wedge
jdk devs should be embarrassed to have put out such a lacking api
wide chasm
Generics as they currently stand are fine, just not ideal
ancient bolt
jdk devs put out something incredibly stable and performant which covers 90% of the use cases it was designed to cover and maintained backwards compatibility with 20+ years and billions of lines of code still running
Random thing I wish Java had: reversed array declarations
[]String instead of String[]
limber knotBOT
I did String args[] one time
ancient bolt
if they were reversed then @NotNull [] @Nullable String would actually do what you think it does
@NotNull String @Nullable [] does the opposite of what you think it does
wide chasm
Oh yeah, array annotations are super dumb currently
ancient bolt
same concept as List<String>, therefore, []String
ancient bolt
Honestly [String] would be the best syntax
@NotNull [@Nullable String] is even better
fallen oracle
paper
wide chasm
Yeah, that looks good with annotations, although without it looks more like an optional string than a string array to me
fallen oracle
Unsure. I suppose opening an issue would find out
ancient bolt
If you come from Swift yeah for sure. Coming from Rust it looks like an array though
Depends on what you're used to I guess
fallen oracle
o.o
ancient bolt
I think []String is probably best of both worlds, it's clear to everyone that reads it, reads left-to-right like the rest of the language, doesn't have weird overlaps with other concepts
multi-dimmensional arrays probably look better as [][]String than [[String]] too
wide chasm
Yeah I think that's best. Although my optional didn't come from Swift, but from Skript patterns hides
ancient bolt
lmao whoops
limber knotBOT
I mean, String[][] makes most sense but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
ancient bolt
That's just what you're used to
wide chasm
An array of array of string
true canyon
Give me ]String[ or give me kittens.
ancient bolt
@true canyon monster
true canyon
Give me the kittens then
wide chasm
Do the ofs matter?
limber knotBOT
languages without compound nouns smh
ancient bolt
The Java Language Specification itself states array type declarations read right-to-left
Every other thing in Java reads left-to-right
limber knotBOT
I should have been clearer and sait "Zeichenfelderfelder"
*said
it's not "Felderfelderzeichen"
runs
wide chasm
Is that what you call chaining nouns? Compound nouns?
limber knotBOT
yes
generics are the worst, teh should be <String>List not, List<String> -.-
*they
wide chasm
That's great, now I no longer have to say "combining words without spaces" :)
limber knotBOT
funnily enough the German word for them (Zusammengesetzte Substantive) isn't one itself
wide chasm
Nice
ancient bolt
String[][][]
^ ^ ^
most inner type (String)---------------| | |
most outer type (String[][][])--------------| |
second most inner type (String[]) --------------|
Makes no fucking sense ^
and that matters for annotations
@A String @B [] @C [] @D []
Means @A applies to the String type and @B applies to the String[][][] type, and @D applies to the String[] type
like, it's absolutely absurd
worn ember
wtf am i looking at
wide chasm
Java garbage
worn ember
isnt that just a 3d array of string?
ancient bolt
It's a potentially useful feature made useless by poor implementation
worn ember
limber knotBOT
just never use arrays
ancient bolt
That's my solution
ArrayList doesn't have much of a performance buffer from just plain arrays
wide chasm
I agree, if annotations behaved sanely (as you'd expect) on arrays, I might have actually used them
worn ember
just use collections and streams and you'll get insane performance like mienkraft
wide chasm
Streams are beautiful until they're hot, then they become a disgrace.
worn ember
they become a hot mess
people making issues on my gh page for issues that have been fixed a few weeks ago
maybe actually releasing an update might help tho
wide chasm
Just have a bot that marks issues directly as "wontfix" easy
Or the Mojang approach and use "works as intended" /s
wide chasm
I had to do 1, I'll cry with you
But I'm blaming everything on the course to make myself feel better
worn ember
i'd do the same
but all the ones i did pass i passed barely
quarantine really sucked for me
cuz i have no focus when at home
wide chasm
:(
worn ember
i never went to my online classes and just slept all day xD
worn ember
well at least something is going good then ig π
wide chasm
I didn't have any online classes, I just had to watch some recorded lectures whenever I felt like
I may or may not have watched all of them
worn ember
we had more work during quarantine than during normal classes
just cuz we're at home doesnt mean we suddenly got 28 hours in a day
wide chasm
Same, so students complained and then we had to do less
Easy fix, didn't lift a finger
wide chasm
Same tbh
worn ember
we did some group calls during them too xD
just like sharing solutions and shit
shh
wide chasm
I just used SO, cause I don't know how to C
limber knotBOT
mfw I try to fix a bug and can't even reproduce it -.-
worn ember
i feel that
wide chasm
But C is actually a sane language, so that's nice
worn ember
people keep reporting they end up in lava, i did 6k simulations, not a single one in lava
wide chasm
Just, not necessarily easy in practice
serene bolt
incoming deadlock
grand pewter
ok 50% lava
worn ember
well i tested in the nether
void void
Does anybody know of a plugin where you teleport somewhere random at first login?
grand pewter
i forgot that your code breaks if its 100% bad
wide chasm
DED, I'll do the flat world and then make a very angry issue
limber knotBOT
easy one josh: execute the rtp command on first login with your first login management plugin
wide chasm
Or maybe I should go for the "upsie woopsie" style
worn ember
no
serene bolt
I run LavaCraft and all of our worlds are made out of lava. Your plugin makes my server crash and does not function properly.
β
1 star
grand pewter
doesnt exist
wide chasm
"your plugin send a vewy angwy stack twace"
wide chasm
And then Paper reports it with a stack trace taps head
worn ember
i dont think the watchdog triggers for hanging threads
grand pewter
yeah its just main thread iirc
worn ember
and it also wouldnt be hanging
wide chasm
I can make it trigger
worn ember
just doing useless work
worn ember
it throws a bunch of red lines
grand pewter
nice
serene bolt
Chunky integration, now with thread interrupts
wide chasm
Also, I'll do this on my pc, so take the time it takes on your pc and multiply it by a hundred at least
worn ember
i have no clue if it would spin up again or not
serene bolt
ah wonderful :P
grand pewter
so i just need to check for this and RandomTeleport
worn ember
also the reason the end never worked was cuz of the new VOID_AIR
i was just checking for air
grand pewter
use isAir()
worn ember
ig that could work too
wide chasm
I should still make a custom HumanEntity implementing class and make that fire an InventoryClickEvent and then complain to all plugins that their stuff breaks :)
grand pewter
serene bolt
pop finally using his nitro benefits!
worn ember
grand pewter
serene bolt
Hahahahaha
limber knotBOT
why check for air if you can check for not solid?
limber knotBOT
liquid isn't solid ;)
serene bolt
π«
worn ember
oh uh
wide chasm
I've done that before, giant pain, wouldn't recommend
worn ember
wide chasm
smh
cedar spade
just hard code a list of all materials
What you've done there is describe Spigot
worn ember
theres probably more but i got bored
limber knotBOT
not exposing the blacklist as paramters smh
zealous wedge
imagine if they'd fixed the material enum back in 2012
limber knotBOT
just fork my plugin and put your random searcher implementation into it
zealous wedge
when everyone was first concerned about it
grand pewter
you know what i do with essentials is it lets the locations be unsafe but then safe tp system takes care of it 
worn ember
well i just made this cuz i wanted to get more familiar with the whole bukkit mess
but now people actually use it
cedar spade
just imagine if all of Bukkit's problems had been solved before md_5 happened
wide chasm
Why fix stuff when you can worry about backward compatibility
grand pewter
bukkit is the problem, lets go back to hmod
limber knotBOT
mfw I realise my last RandomTeleport release was 2016 π
zealous wedge
start on Burnaby mountain
limber knotBOT
We need a push for plugins only supporting latest and providing "Last release that supports x"
worn ember
yikes
wide chasm
Someone find ThinkOfDeath, maybe he can save Spigot
wide chasm
No, begone Hytale
limber knotBOT
god i hope they fix the artwork on hytale
worn ember
i only tested on 1.15+ and just labled it as "works on 1.13+"
grand pewter
lol dark
wide chasm
Works on 1.14+
only tested on 1.16
grand pewter
assumed to work on 1.14+ π
wide chasm
I'm proud Dark
limber knotBOT
works on 1.8+ didn't even test
worn ember
i dont think it would work on 1.8 anymore cuz theres no void air there
is hould probably just fix that
grand pewter
rip your system
worn ember
and jus use isAir
grand pewter
yes
wide chasm
I don't think isAir existed in 1.8 though
Think that was specifically added because of cave and void air
limber knotBOT
so is deal git protecting master branch and only pring into it with 1+ reviewers?
idea*
ideal*
worn ember
i just make pr's and instantly merge them
wide chasm
"Let me review my own code"
zealous wedge
it's good if you have extra checks that CI performs
cedar spade
though you can also do those checks on master
zealous wedge
but then master might break :p
worn ember
i wanna integrate unit tests and stuff but that would require some SUPA OMEGA abstraction
so no thanks
unreal quarry
Real men push directly to master
worn ember
i bet ur wife loves that about you billy
potent fossil
@fallen oracle and i do that for a 2 person project because we're both equally stupid and need the other one to sanity check. even then, we still push bugs.
worn ember
probably same story at Mojang
wide chasm
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't have code review setup at Mojang tbh
worn ember
@grand pewter why do you lie to me
there is no isAir only isEmpty and thats only true for AIR
wide chasm
Material#isAir should exist
unreal quarry
isAir is nms
warm anchor
limber knotBOT
thanks btw. ded, due to you talking about random tp I said fuck it and finally just posted a pre-release update of my randomteleport plugin xD
potent fossil
ultrakek
limber knotBOT
π
worn ember
lets start up a hikari pool on shut down 
kindred storm
...
worn ember
i think it does it when theres no pool and you call close on it
kindred storm
that would imply the plugin never used its connection pool
or that all the connections timed out
worn ember
probably never uses it, cuz i made it
kindred storm
I think HikariCP never imagined someone starting a connection pool but not acquiring any connections
they're like, "we're going to make a fast and reliable connection pool which will serve connections at the forefront of the world's enterprise servers"
and then there were Bukkit plugins
worn ember
hehe
i think i havent got to the point yet where i retreive the data from the db at startup
dont remember
its been a while
i always manage to break stuff by half assing things
unborn jay
Is there a reason to not use Java 11?
worn ember
unless you're running like 20 year old hardware
kindred storm
but, really, use 11 or 14. don't use 8
knotty rose
uses java 8
limber knotBOT
I just realized this kinda sucks https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pyNsrh4C/image.png
writing todolists is way more fun than writing changelogs: https://phoenix616.dev/π·/fK3qV5ZC.png π
Ah yes, ambition > implementation
first update in 4 years, people don't expect much π
continue skips that iteration in a for loop right?
yeah
worn ember
lmao netsky is playing from his appartment and this one random dude in the background is just jamming out across the street xD
limber knotBOT
is that live? Oo
worn ember
it was, its a replay of the livestream
worn ember
its on his own yt, but they release weekly dj sets on ukf air too
limber knotBOT
feels like yesterday when they started out π’
potent fossil
tired heath
Any Geyser user here
limber knotBOT
geyser is good
tired heath
chew would need someone to test my plugin for it
potent fossil
Wow, that looks like a great server thank you so much for advertising it to me @tight ginkgo I will join immediately.
unique snow
I'm not convinced.
potent fossil
tight ginkgo
latent valve
limber knotBOT
whered the messages go
potent fossil
either kash deleted them or Mr Gangsta did
limber knotBOT
kash got ghost pinged tho rip
latent valve
limber knotBOT
the superior yes
worn ember
waxen panther
simpowo is typing...
limber knotBOT
.kill bowccowi
stuffs some TNT up bowccowi's ass and waits for it to go off.
fuck
are we not allowed to be friends here?
vestal jasper
@waxen panther
limber knotBOT
.kill bwoccowi
shoves bwoccowi into a microwave and waits until they pop.
there
vestal jasper
.kill simpowo
waxen panther
damn right
limber knotBOT
@waxen panther
refactoring code is actually fun, you become the supreme court and wonder what the fuck you wrote and make it legible
waxen panther
Imagine not seeing edited messages π€£
limber knotBOT
refactoring is neat
waxen panther
Soon sir
limber knotBOT
i ordered a hydroflask and i would like it to arrive now
waxen panther
im going to a place without my pc for a few days tomorrow so
i will grind codingβ’οΈ
vestal jasper
Yeah with me @waxen panther
waxen panther
cold broccoli is kinda weird dude
limber knotBOT
ikr :(
waxen panther
i dont know what you're doing with non-hot broccoli but i dont wanna know
waxen panther
nah
limber knotBOT
i don't need spigot AND bukkit in my pom do I
limber knotBOT
nah chew
idk why both are there
but then, i make it cold and then throw it into a machine that chops and shreds it
you don't need either when you use paper
waxen panther
wtfwtfwtf
limber knotBOT
just to be sure that all the @waxen panther is dead
waxen panther
this is so toxic
limber knotBOT
and then
waxen panther
this is why we need a cull on irc users
limber knotBOT
just like broccoli
i put it in some water with protein powder and drink it
all the constituent parts of your fellow brethren
waxen panther
how dare you take my proud species and reduce them to some kinda disgusting protein drink
so dishonourable
waxen panther
mushrooms are terrifying anyway
limber knotBOT
can we react to decay exists as an extant form of life
waxen panther
class Life extends Decay
waxen panther
π¨βπ¬
serene bolt
perfect example of a good way to sample feedback from the community too, leads to a lot of collaboration with everyone trying to make the community better <3
potent fossil
now lets go full throttle and open up more things to community feedback
so we not toxic anymore right? https://i.imgur.com/KvvQVwU.png
potent fossil
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
worn ember
cuz ion see any mods to moderate
worn ember
they're not mods tho lol
serene bolt
glare is usually invisible
ancient bolt
We're making an honest effort to do what we can, you can troll / joke about it if you like
cosmic raft
@cunning raft I see you're using a modified client
worn ember
potent fossil
who's trolling lol
ancient bolt
you...
worn ember
it was a yoke
cunning raft
i would never modify my discord client i love discord and i love tencent long live china democratic republic
limber knotBOT
tencent? I prefer 50
worn ember
i like pennywise
limber knotBOT
worn ember
inb4 -80+0
waxen panther
ancient bolt
if you're asking if we're not toxic anymore because we're posted new guidelines, no that stuff takes work & time
if you're asking if we're trying to be less toxic, yes
potent fossil
okidoke
worn ember
well i think its already better than it once was tbh
potent fossil
Wait, wasn't the link meant to be on the homepage?
cosmic raft
its on the community tab
limber knotBOT
not according to the pr
potent fossil
Yeah I was looking at the homepage because of the PR :p
But it's chill
I can see in the diff it was indeed for the community page, I think it's ok
worn ember
anyone know any good java profilers than can track the time methods need to execute?
if thats even a thing
manic niche
alright
lusty cosmos
^^^
broken iris
lel "pelase" 
lusty cosmos
Tick-Tock architecture
eager rampart
@ancient bolt we can't see that channel
ivory light
yep great channel
outer parcel
where @ tho
manic niche
the channel doesnt even exist
true canyon
The best channel
manic niche
there never were rules
unique torrent
magic sand
#deleted-channel
unique torrent
Oh boy invalid channel my favorite
outer parcel
@ancient bolt
zealous wedge
I think they get the point :p
ancient bolt
Yeah I got it, fixed
outer parcel
@zealous wedge why dont u have a table
waxen panther
i dont think demon wav knows, everyone should say it another 20 times
outer parcel
can someone get this man a table
lusty cosmos
rules have been deleted, this is now a anarchist server
ancient bolt
We had to shuffle some channels around because Dyno bot was broken
zealous wedge
they don't let me have a table
zealous wedge
it's part of the rules now
true canyon
Ayy it's better now.
zealous wedge
I do have a nice sofa tho
outer parcel
coffee table?
upper flicker
no sofa when
zealous wedge
no table when I'm in paper
outer parcel
damn
robust walrus
about the new rules... is calling someone a retard or retarted considered ableist hate speech then?
broken iris
@ancient bolt plz fix "pelase" too 
zealous wedge
I'd say yes jay
outer parcel
well the word retarded has changed definitions
ornate spindle
sure will be hard to stop calling myself a retard when it comes to my code
outer parcel
like gay
zealous wedge
oh boy
outer parcel
lpol
waxen panther
broken iris
π
ancient bolt
yes those words aren't allowed
robust walrus
Any other hate speech not already listed
this is a slippery slope, good luck with that. i guarantee you that zero tolerance list is gonna get longer and longer daily
zealous wedge
ok
waxen panther
zero zmls plz
zealous wedge
you'll have to find me to get rid of me broc
unkempt drift
its really annoying, how you cant group embeds together with the dyno embed editor. cause when you edit them, they are now spaced out by the (edited) bit of text
merry talon
i don't think I'll be able to handle not calling spot the r word
revert this immediately
ancient bolt
solution: use compact mode
zealous wedge
sounds like a you problem sweepy?
ancient bolt
puts edit on teh same line
toxic ember
Like these new rules
limber knotBOT
compact mode is great
unkempt ridge
Thanks for these updated community guidelines. It's been difficult for me to feel like I'm welcome to speak up in this community at all unless I needed help with a server issue, because of all the toxicity. Just in case you were wondering if these changes are "worth it", well, I used to never want to talk in here because of how much I saw people throw around transphobic jokes, and ableist slurs. It made me pretty much just lurk this discord. Now, I have hope that things can change for the better. Thank you! π
toxic ember
Too many times I see a nice server get filled up with toxic people
vagrant niche
Fuk da guidelines, bring back wiz
zealous wedge
compact mode is bad cuz you can't tell people apart as easily
merry talon
wait what happened to wiz
limber knotBOT
glad to see theyre helping aeonlamb :)
pulsar wigeon
kindred storm
he's back
limber knotBOT
got?
vagrant niche
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for the greater good
zealous wedge
wiz 4 mod 2k20
ancient bolt
We'll probably re-ban lax soon anyways
upper flicker
sorry you felt that way in the past @unkempt ridge, this is only a first step and not something that will be achieved overnight, but we hope it can continue to improve and make you and others feel more welcome