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vernal moth
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Check my profile

cosmic raft
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ah! gamper and dadoni

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they're good

vernal moth
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I can't keep up with all the DJs, lol

zealous wedge
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@cosmic raft they're back 😦

twin lagoon
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f

void void
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how kind of you to call me "they" since you don't know my pronouns™️ yet; thank you..

cedar spade
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thanks for returning to make a joke about pronouns

void void
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thanks for assuming it is a joke..

cedar spade
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pronouns™️

void void
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that wasn't a joke!?

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that doesn't mean i don't take them seriously..

twin lagoon
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i am shaking and crying

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that was so funny

waxen panther
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wtf is this conversation

zealous wedge
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feeding the trolls

quasi valley
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just a bunch of 🥦

cedar spade
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cheese and broccoli omelette

waxen panther
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broccoli isn't that bad idonotcryorhear

cedar spade
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It's better than tacos

zealous wedge
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mmmm i'd have to disagree with that

waxen panther
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I have to disagree too

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broccoli is a solid 5/10

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tacos are a 8

cedar spade
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excuse me do you have the BIGGEST TACO FAN role? I don't think so

waxen panther
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i have no roles

zealous wedge
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that's a lie

waxen panther
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booster is a fake role

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pay2win

zealous wedge
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don't you know, it's 2020 gaming is p2w

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there are no other ways to design a game

cedar spade
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hangar microtransactions when

quasi valley
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buy the ability to have giant banner ads kappa

zealous wedge
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given the choice between making a p2w game and not making a game at all, why would you make a game

cedar spade
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sell each EssentialsX command as separate $1.99 DLCs

zealous wedge
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that's how to do premium essx

waxen panther
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xmpp $5 addon

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the whole 2 users will cry

cedar spade
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nah XMPP is $30

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premium quality

waxen panther
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premium price for premium code™️

cedar spade
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and also only 1 month's license so you need to subscribe for support

vernal moth
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Wait till you see all the premium features I have planned for hangar 😂

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You can bid on the top 5 slots of the homepage btw

cedar spade
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hangar is literally pay to win confirmed

quasi valley
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watch kangarko buy all 5 kappa

cedar spade
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kangarko is banned

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even though he's not on it yet

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he's pre-banned

vernal moth
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On a more serious note, what I actually did consider was locking more than two channels behind a paywall, so if you want us to keep more of your files you gotta contribute to the costs

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Also if you want a channel for legacy or smth

quasi valley
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sounds reasonable enough

vernal moth
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Then you have stable and dev, each keeps like the last two versions around, and if you want a 1.12 channel too you need to unlock that

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Idk, let's get this dum thing working first 😂

cedar spade
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Nah you've got to monetise it before you even finish designing the product

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that's how p2w games are made

mossy vessel
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How much for 1.8 ?? kek

cosmic raft
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more than you can afford

void void
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how many buckets of money you got?

cosmic raft
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the formula to calculate 1.8 cost is:

void void
cedar spade
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cosmic raft
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no

mossy vessel
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I offer $8

waxen panther
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man dont talk about domains again

void void
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@cosmic raft thx

mental meadow
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aurora.space would be really nice as a domain ngl

vernal moth
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Domains are stupid if you don't have anything to put on it

mental meadow
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I don'T care i just want it tho

void void
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i want nirvana.com but i don't have that kind of money haha

vernal moth
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Used that to sneak myself into gamescom as trade visitor

cosmic raft
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@mossy vessel (1000 * (27.5) / 8) ^ 1.8 - 16

mossy vessel
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a independent

cosmic raft
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1.8 cost

mental meadow
cosmic raft
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.wa (1000 * (27.5) / 8) ^ 1.8 - 16

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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Unit?

cosmic raft
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well that fails on it

mental meadow
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potato

void void
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.wa (1000 * (27.5) / 8) ^ 1.15 - 16

limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
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2318642.94498

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per month

void void
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kek 1.15 is even more expensive

mossy vessel
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Ok I send you letter with cashhh

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ok dis low quality sux

void void
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does anyone know about a vps with free trial without credit card? because i just wanna host a server and on aternos its not possible to do how i wnat to

twin lagoon
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no

void void
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oh

potent fossil
void void
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i found one hosting now

cedar spade
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what currency

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Zimbabwe dollars?

cosmic raft
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Oh yea?

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Well do you know the formula to make the number 2020?

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??

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@cedar spade answer me!!!

twin lagoon
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a

twin lagoon
cosmic raft
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this is how

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.wa (((((16 * 7) * (31 * 12)) / 12) - (116 * 8)) - (5 * 5 * 7) - (9 * 4)) - 333 + 20

limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
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let me break it down:

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empty
16 * 7 = current day * month
31 * 12 = last day in the last month * last month
/ 12 = divided by total months
116 - 8 = 1.16 without decimal - versions since 1.8
5 * 5 * 7 = "mojang".length * "mojang".length * "studios".length
9 * 4 = "microsoft".length * "xbox".length
333 = https://csi.fandom.com/wiki/Drew_Bedford
20 = years since the year 2000

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@twin lagoon

twin lagoon
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let me break it down:

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kashike stanky

cosmic raft
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excuse you

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don't like my math @twin lagoon ?

minor badge
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i concur with michael

twin lagoon
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it's beautiful

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but my simplified version is better

cosmic raft
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I disagree

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and to calculate the next year it is simple

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.wa (((((16 * 7) * (31 * 12)) / 12) - (116 * 8)) - (5 * 5 * 7) - (9 * 4)) - 333 + 20 + 1

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simply add 1

limber knotBOT
void void
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where can i get help about server resource pack issues

cedar spade
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

cedar spade
potent fossil
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kashike

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w h a t t h e f u c k

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what the fuck are you pepegas doing

minor badge
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wanna set me and kashike up simp xx

potent fossil
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@cosmic raft proxi wanna date u, now kith

waxen panther
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proxi cheating on me again 😔

potent fossil
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proxi is stanky

minor badge
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you saying my name in every message pings me on irc pls stop

void void
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proxi ping

minor badge
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😠

waxen panther
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Can’t shit talk proxi without her seeing wtf

quasi valley
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wow proxi rood

crystal sun
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Hey, I am making my own spigot

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I have made a package for all my stuff

waxen panther
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lol

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good luck

crystal sun
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what?

void void
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"fluxspigot"

crystal sun
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oh na

waxen panther
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I’m making my own windows

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I have a folder already

crystal sun
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@void void I was trying to work something out

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and @waxen panther Not from scratch

void void
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so it's a fork

waxen panther
minor badge
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why not just contribute to paper

crystal sun
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yes

mint umbra
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@shy shuttle @twin lagoon if you can help someone do it

twin lagoon
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what

waxen panther
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That is not a yes kinda question lol

mint umbra
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older versions are harder to work wwith yes

crystal sun
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why not just contribute to paper
@minor badge Its for a friends server

twin lagoon
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no i don't need to continue this conversation

waxen panther
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?

twin lagoon
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i don't care

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lol

void void
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well it should be on paper, not spigot

quasi valley
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why are you telling us then

minor badge
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why not just contribute to paper anyways

crystal sun
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Where do i import my package

zealous wedge
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lol

crystal sun
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cause i have my own

quasi valley
crystal sun
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config

zealous wedge
minor badge
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please learn java

waxen panther
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if you’re asking that I don’t think you’re gunna be able to modify spigot chief

void void
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i'd contribute if i wasn't an imbicile and kept either breaking pistons or making another dupe with them haha

minor badge
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fuck that reminds me i needa update my forks

waxen panther
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Update me x

crystal sun
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well you guys useless

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cya

twin lagoon
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lol

quasi valley
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goodbye

zealous wedge
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bye

minor badge
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bout time

zealous wedge
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don't come back

void void
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good riddance lmao

cosmic raft
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@potent fossil why the "w h a t t h e f u c k"

twin lagoon
cosmic raft
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@minor badge so about those docs!

waxen panther
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hahhah

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@cosmic raft 😳

twin lagoon
zealous wedge
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not many anys

potent fossil
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how long did you take to create that mathematical smog kash

zealous wedge
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just a any dev work

cosmic raft
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idk like 5 minutes?

potent fossil
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im disappointed in you

cosmic raft
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lol

minor badge
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what project kashike

peak dirge
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hotspot instrincts pepega

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need to rewrite velocity in rust

minor badge
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about time

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pls make a working zero-copy tcp example in rust too

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porting eproxy from c is aids

hollow plaza
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Is it fine to use this.getClass() in a subclass

peak dirge
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afaik yes

golden gust
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well, yes, subclasses are still classes

finite wave
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Can’t wait tux

peak dirge
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@minor badge if Rust can't do zero-copy TCP then that's really pepega shit right there

hollow plaza
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I mean it will work but is it fine in terms of coding practices

minor badge
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well it can

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it's just that nobody's bothered to make a lib for doing it safely

peak dirge
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They can write an operating system in Rust but can't do zero-copy TCP

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SAD!

minor badge
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nobody's needed to i guess, with the existence of nginx & haproxy

potent fossil
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@hollow plaza there's no reason i can see that would make it a bad practice to call getClass

hollow plaza
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Ok good to know, thanks

zealous wedge
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lol prox just wait for joe to finish his theoretical rust proxy

minor badge
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woa

potent fossil
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ok goodnight sweaties

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@minor badge stanky

minor badge
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uwu

twin lagoon
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uwu

cosmic raft
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stop being so cute michael 😳

twin lagoon
finite wave
urban depot
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uhm will the end gateway problem with paper ever be fixed

twin lagoon
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idk

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will you PR the fix

minor badge
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end gateway problem

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thanks for detail

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very helpful

urban depot
golden gust
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There is a limit in vanilla now iirc

urban depot
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Aren't 20 portals supposed to be the limit?

minor badge
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only reported instances in those comments were 1.15.2 upgraded chunks

urban depot
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?

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Well it doesn't work and there isn't a way I can fix it

golden gust
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best guess would be take a look at your level.dat

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Beyond that, needs triage

finite wave
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Exit gateway?

golden gust
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personally, I wanna go lie down on the floor

void void
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that sounds nice tbh

finite wave
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Well stay true to your name cat

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Take a nap on the floor

cosmic raft
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me too cat

kindred crater
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laying on the floor is just... comfortable

cosmic raft
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i have a bad headache

unreal quarry
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I can't reproduce that bug. My server already has like 20 end gateways. I did reset the end when we updated to 1.16 though

finite wave
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I have 69 gateway because i’m cool

urban depot
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I upgraded my chunks though

golden gust
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Go look at your level.dat.

finite wave
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Send this ^

urban depot
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Look at what in it?

golden gust
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the gateways

urban depot
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I can't find gateways in it

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only dragon fight etc

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oh ang on

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I cannot read this

finite wave
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Didn’t u saw there was only 3

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Say*

urban depot
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4

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4 gateways

unreal quarry
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The game seems to think you have 16

golden gust
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Actually, that's normal

urban depot
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wait what

golden gust
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It basically uses that for some positioning stuff, and pulls them out one at a time

urban depot
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Does that mean it didn't register the dragon kill

golden gust
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I'd imagine that your list is empty there, billy

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(if you hit the 20 limit)

unreal quarry
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Ah, yes. 20-4=16 positions left

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Makes sense

golden gust
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So, yea, that would suggest that it didn't handle the kill

finite wave
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The actual limit is 26 according to google

urban depot
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Yeah but I killed it and no gateway spawned

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in paper-24

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since that was ages ago

golden gust
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nope, is 20

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this.gateways.addAll(ContiguousSet.create(Range.closedOpen(0, 20), DiscreteDomain.integers()));

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each time a portal is generated, it pulls a value from that list

urban depot
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Should I try killing it again?

finite wave
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Google has wronged me

golden gust
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once that list is empty, it won't create any more

unreal quarry
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You're spawning in the dragon using the end crystal ritual, right?

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The only time a dragon death counts is if it's the dragon in the battle manager. Summoning one in (even through plugins) doesn't put it in the battle managaer

finite wave
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Unless it’s a super fancy pants plugin

unreal quarry
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Speaking of. I need to PR my end spike seed patch some time today

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Found out yesterday players can use end spikes to steal a server's world seed very easily :3

void void
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i mean if you have enough natural terrain you can get the seed as well

minor badge
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possibility and viability are not the same things

unreal quarry
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Not in a few seconds, though

void void
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true

twin lagoon
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what the fuck is an end spike

golden gust
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^ this

unreal quarry
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Obsidian pillars with end crystals on top

twin lagoon
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o

golden gust
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billy showing off that he actually plays the game over here 'eh

unreal quarry
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They're called end spikes in code :3

finite wave
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Wtf is obsidian

golden gust
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wtf is an end crystal?

void void
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i learnt about them from "end spikes need decoration" or smthin

finite wave
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I’ll spike your end BlobSmirk

golden gust
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Oh, that's jans mum

finite wave
void void
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ngl i hate piston logic

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i can't touch em without putting in another bug or a dupe

golden gust
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just do what CB does

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touch them as little as possible

void void
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i wish i could haha

unreal quarry
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Just make slime blocks not pushable. Solves most dupe bug and lag machine problems ^_^

finite wave
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Just like disable redstone

void void
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what if i made the bug from my own stupidity

vernal moth
finite wave
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You and your burgers smh

vernal moth
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Oh lol it looks like it has no patty 😂

unreal quarry
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I don't see any meat in that burger..

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Mini confirmed vegan

finite wave
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I see bacon

vernal moth
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That's a 200g patty, with blue cheese and a pear onion cutney

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There is no bacon, lol

finite wave
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Dang

void void
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sounds nice apart from the blue cheese tbh

finite wave
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I see no bacon then

unreal quarry
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.wa 290 grams to pounds

limber knotBOT
finite wave
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Billy being an american smh

vernal moth
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See I thought the same about the blue cheese when I saw the recipe, I don't think I ever eat blue cheese before

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But it's actually pretty good

void void
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huh

unreal quarry
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.wa 200 grams to pounds

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
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Ok, that's a good size patty ^_^

vernal moth
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Not sure I would eat it without a burger, just on bread or smth, but it worked in the combo with the cutney

void void
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just switch to metric billy, much easier

vernal moth
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I mean, don't even need a giant patty if you got that much wedges (you can't see all of it in the photo)

unreal quarry
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My favorite burger has four quarter pound patties

finite wave
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What

void void
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holy what

finite wave
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In grams billy?

vernal moth
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But I can recommend hello fresh, it's so amazing

unreal quarry
finite wave
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.g 1 pound to gramds

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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Made an actual cook out of me, who would have known

void void
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1/2kg!

finite wave
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So almost 500 grams

vernal moth
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Why are they so flat :/

void void
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yeah hellofresh is quite nice

unreal quarry
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It's like 1400 calories :3

void void
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damn

unreal quarry
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Not including fries and drink

void void
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oh god

vernal moth
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You want the patty to be a red inside

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Well, I drank water

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No calories in that smart

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And I was swimming earlier (I still feel like shit) so it's fine ^^

void void
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yeah i almost only drink water, everything else just tastes bad for me now

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and fizzy drinks are painful

unreal quarry
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And yeah, american burgers make patties flat. Idky.. that's why we stack em up lol

void void
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its all about efficiency

vernal moth
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Yeah but that doesn't fix the dry stuff

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I only drink water, unless I go out

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So restaurant and Shisha Bar or smth I will drink coke or fanta

unreal quarry
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Do you wanna fanta?

void void
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i actually hate restaurants

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they never get it right somehow for me

vernal moth
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Oh we have fantastic restaurants here

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Vietnamese I was last week for my parents wedding day

unreal quarry
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Resturaunts aren't so bad once you realize it's food made by people that hate their job. Then you realize it's actually better than you could have expected most of the time

void void
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yeah german restaurants are definetly way better than average, but its just not the way i would make it

vernal moth
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See, when I go to a restaurant here and order a burger or steak, they make it in a way I would never be able to do

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Yet alone Indian or generally Asian stuff, I don't even know the fucking spices they use

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My sister an I are obsessed with Indian food, we been to 20 different Indian restaurants in town

void void
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damn

vernal moth
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We have something here called a Schlemmer book (eating enthusiast book?), It's basically a bunch of coupons from restaurants all other town, and many have a two for one thing, so we went to every Indian restaurant in that book 😂

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They use the book as advertisment, so new ppl discover their restaurant and become regulars

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It's a really cool concept

void void
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yeah great idea of advertising

vernal moth
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Because it leads you to the coolest places

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Like, my favorite Indian restaurant is fully run by Indian, with turban and everything, they don't even speak German

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That's where you get the good stuff

void void
unreal quarry
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I bought a book of coupons like that once from a high school fundraiser. Most places gave me a hard time for using the coupons, tho

vernal moth
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Interesting

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I actually have only talked with one restaurant owner about this, and he said for him it's really worth because he can see that many of the ppl who come in via the book come back again

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But he was only starting out, I guess if you are established it doesn't make sense anymore

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But like, stuff is really competitive here, big city, many ppl, even more restaurant really close to each other thanks to public transport or bikes

neat smelt
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schlemmer buch

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sounds interesting

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mine would have bread and noodels in it every day xd

void void
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i think if you're established it'd still make sense, since it's new people without large upfront and ongoing costs

vernal moth
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Schlemmerblock actually

neat smelt
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ohooo

tired heath
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I'm on low carb diet, first thing you see opening discord, a quattro whopper 🙄

golden gust
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Chick, chick, chick, chick, chiiiickkkeen

finite wave
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Cat, did you find a chicken?

golden gust
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No, but, low carb just reminded me of that

tired heath
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Is actually not far away from the content of my fridge

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Still I could kill for such a whopper 😄

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The little piece of garbage food, full of fat and sugar and something hardly related to meat

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mmmm

subtle hollow
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so

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you just eat protein

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24/7?

tired heath
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Well everthing, but as less carbs as possible

subtle hollow
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remind me what foods are full of carbs again

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pasta, bread

tired heath
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Well a lot of it

peak dirge
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Gosh, Indian food. Now I want some. But if I want some I'll have to cook it myself.

subtle hollow
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is that thé tux

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the guy who made like 35 premium plugins

void void
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cooking your own food 😎

finite wave
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Tux has 35 premium plugins?

peak dirge
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I'm Tux, the guy who made 2 premium plugins and noped out that shit

subtle hollow
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Well, pleasure to meet you sir

finite wave
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Tux is the velocity guyo

peak dirge
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I'm the Velocity, RedisBungee, Waterfall, ... guy

subtle hollow
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Didnt chunker make redisbungee

peak dirge
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No, I made it

finite wave
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No, velocity only.

subtle hollow
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oh

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chunkr

finite wave
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The others are ewiew

subtle hollow
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that guy

peak dirge
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I made RedisBungee, just gave it to Chunkr when I got fed up with it

subtle hollow
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oh i see

peak dirge
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Now I work on Velocity

subtle hollow
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That's like a bungee fork?

minor badge
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velocity is a new proxy

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which works epicly

subtle hollow
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so from scratch

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yes

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great software blobpray

subtle hollow
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what makes it better than waterfall or bungee?

peak dirge
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extensively tuned for performance and scalability

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lots of features

tired heath
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I like performance, I like scalability

peak dirge
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and no legacy BungeeCord garbage inside

tired heath
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I like no garbage

peak dirge
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which also means we don't support BungeeCord plugins

subtle hollow
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define scalability

void void
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i like legacy crap that slows stuff down

tired heath
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💸 take it

subtle hollow
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which also means we don't support BungeeCord plugins
@peak dirge 🙉

peak dirge
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the proxy should just "work better" if you throw more CPU cores and memory at it

cedar spade
twin lagoon
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CMI

subtle hollow
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dude i'm looking at the code of velocity

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this looks pretty clean

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wow

peak dirge
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and a proper security focus

subtle hollow
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its not unonrganized as fuck like some other projects cough cough

peak dirge
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we also have really good Forge support

cedar spade
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cough Essentials cough

peak dirge
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only 1.7-1.12.2

subtle hollow
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ooh

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interesting

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sounds very good man, im not a server owner but if i ever join another server as a dev i'll be sure to suggest velocity

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hows the api?

peak dirge
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if you've worked with the BungeeCord API it's pretty similar, but there is also some influence from Sponge too

finite wave
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1.8-1.12

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Nub

tired heath
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Actually I just use one plugin on my proxy and is luke perms, since every extra trash will just add extra latency. I think I should check that out

finite wave
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Don’t even know your own software smh

tired heath
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But I have to go now, see y

subtle hollow
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o/

peak dirge
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@finite wave Developmet version supports 1.7 mate

finite wave
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Oh great <e

peak dirge
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I was the one who merged in the PR

finite wave
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Love you, now i can drop this legacy travertine

subtle hollow
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1.7

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nice nice

finite wave
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How well is the 1.7 support?

peak dirge
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works nicely

finite wave
#

K, cause atm i’m running on some custom travertine weird fork shit

azure flower
#

Velocity good

subtle hollow
#

mmm

peak dirge
#

Even Alabama has a mandatory face mask order now

unreal quarry
#

texas governor did that same thing few months back. houston judge tried to mandate masks with penalties, but he stepped in and said thats unconstitutional to require it. some time later he issues a state wide mandate for masks lmao

quasi valley
#

wot

unreal quarry
#

dude's going around to random jira tickets commenting a link to his ticket to try and get votes

quasi valley
#

that can’t have been serious

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just, no way 😂

void void
#

i think that could have been serious

unreal quarry
#

i'm rolling here lmfao

fallen oracle
mighty storm
#

I mean, 1.16 is 1.14+

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Technically

fallen oracle
#

Oh well I guess on the main page it says 1.15 and 1.16

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Yeah

azure flower
#

Wow they support 1.17 too then, how well prepared

quasi valley
#

arcanix pepega

#

his plugins are just painfully awful. superb in concept, but just the most trashy code imaginable

unreal quarry
#

no 1.5.3 support? 1 star

mighty storm
#

No beta 1.7.3 support? Unbelievable

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Also why is yours blue

serene bolt
#

hMod unsupported?

fallen oracle
#

I've never looked at the code.

void void
#

is someone from here a discord parter

unreal quarry
#

we're all partners on discord here @void void

#

group hug

twin lagoon
#

why? @void void

quasi valley
#

except for michael

twin lagoon
#

f u kneny

mighty storm
#

Whats a discord parter?

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Someone who leaves discord?

void void
#

discord partners are people who get theyr own guilds when u join theyr server

mighty storm
#

I didn't ask partners

void void
#

and support discord

twin lagoon
#

that's a horrible explanation

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but why do you ask jiui?

mighty storm
#

Also what in the world I cannot read that

void void
#

becuz papermc has their own join guild

quasi valley
#

theyr

twin lagoon
#

papermc is verified

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not partnered

fallen oracle
#

You mean the vanity url...?

twin lagoon
#

what the fuck is a join guild too

mighty storm
#

Oh you mean a vanity url?

unreal quarry
#

i think he means like people that meet up in guild A join together to make their own guild B

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sounds dumb

void void
#

Oh you mean a vanity url?
@mighty storm yes

twin lagoon
#

papermc is verified, not partnered

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verified opensource servers get their own vanity url

mighty storm
#

Partnered, verified, and level 3 boosted servers get that

azure flower
#

You're not a real minecraft community unless you have 25 other discord servers vaguely related to yours with the same people in

unreal quarry
#

oh, i was way off base there lol

azure flower
#

Because they want to be in charge of something

void void
#

verified server - server with discord partner

mighty storm
#

He wasn't very clear don't worry

twin lagoon
#

no

fallen oracle
#

Smh.

twin lagoon
#

a verified server isn't partnered

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a partnered server is partnered

fallen oracle
#

Verified != Partnered

mighty storm
#

I mean it's the same perks mostly but no it's completely different things

unreal quarry
#

i'm so lazy 😦 wife says "there's this, this, and this in the fridge if you get hungry" and i opt for chips and dip instead

mighty storm
#

That's what my mom says

unreal quarry
#

aint nobody got time to wait for the microwave

golden gust
#

i got one of those microwavable chicken burger "things" before

unreal quarry
#

microwavable chicken.. sounds.. rubbery

serene bolt
#

every microwavable burger I have ever tried has been absolutely horrible

void void
#

anything microwavable i've tried has been horrible

golden gust
#

yesterday, I got a bacon suasage and egg bap from this local cheapo place, and wanted something to bump up the order so it wasn't just one thing, and got some southern friend chicken and cheese thing, the cheapo chicken just,... am so trashy that I was craving it again today, so, being in the store... oof

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there are some things which turn out okay, but, they're defo more crappy snacks than anything

mighty storm
#

Burgers are good, I had one pretty much every meal for my trip to Seattle and Canada

void void
#

healthy™️

mighty storm
#

of course

golden gust
#

What I miss is the local fish and chip shop

mighty storm
#

Just cheese and ketchup tho, no fruit/veggies for me

#

can't risk eating bob the tomato

golden gust
#

Like, defo not the best, but, I live in an area where fish and chip shops are basically few and far between, even worse if you wanna not be ripped off

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There was this place locally, paid like double the price for a standard portion of chips, and the serving was literally pathethetic

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got more chips in a cheapo £1 cone

#

actually, most places that I've seen don't even do cones anymore 😦

unreal quarry
#

was about to make a chips bag of air joke, then i remembered you're british and probably are talking about fries

mighty storm
#

Ohh I was so lost there

golden gust
#

lol

void void
#

but chips are fries?

golden gust
#

"yes"

mighty storm
#

No???? What the heck

golden gust
#

See, over here, we call thin cut fries french fries

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Normal like handmade fries are chips

mighty storm
#

Can you show us an example of chips and fries

unreal quarry
#

wedges

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is what i call them

void void
golden gust
#

See, wedges for us is when you leave the skin on

mighty storm
#

Those are common fries

golden gust
#

Those are fries you skinny fuck

void void
#

wat

twin lagoon
#

french fries suck

unreal quarry
twin lagoon
#

chips & wedges are epic

unreal quarry
#

he means these

twin lagoon
#

steak fries are also epic

unreal quarry
#

those are chips to brits

mighty storm
#

Oh I hate those

unreal quarry
#

wedges to us americans

golden gust
#

No, see, those have skin on

mighty storm
#

The what

golden gust
#

So, we'd call them wedges as they still have the skin on

#

When you peel them then cut them, those are chips

mighty storm
#

So what do you call actual chips?

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Crisps?

golden gust
#

yes

#

packet of crisps

mighty storm
#

oh that's so British

golden gust
#

Ever had a crisp butty?

mighty storm
#

nope

twin lagoon
#

a crisp butt?

golden gust
latent valve
#

Deepfry potatoes thinksmart

mighty storm
#

I can't help but reading everything British in a David Tennant voice

golden gust
#

what's even nice is converting a ham sandwich into a crisp butty

void void
#

tbh i've never had a crisp butty

golden gust
#

Actually, I have this weird habit of throwing my pot noodles on into a sandwich 😄

#

as a brit, we will freaking sandwich anything

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now, fish finger butties, those are 👌

latent valve
void void
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i'm polish so i don't have the natural instinct of sandwich!!!

unreal quarry
void void
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i call them poison

unreal quarry
#

😮

golden gust
#

Well, those are thin, so, they'd be considered fries, so, same thing

unreal quarry
#

i survived off them as a teen :3

golden gust
#

general gist is that if they're slim, they're fries; if they're a bit thicker, they're chips

unreal quarry
#

thin fries to me are mcdonalds fries

golden gust
#

yea, those are thin ;P

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though, mcdonalds fries are pretty slender, and they used to be good

#

Fucking mcdonalds

twin lagoon
#

mcdonalds fries suck dick lmao

unreal quarry
#

ya'll do waffle fries?

twin lagoon
#

no idea how people like them

golden gust
#

they used to be amazing

twin lagoon
#

they're literally the thinnest fries ever

golden gust
#

Nice and salty

twin lagoon
#

w/ too much salt

golden gust
#

now they're often just drastically undercooked

twin lagoon
#

waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much salt

golden gust
#

I looooove salt

twin lagoon
#

no wonder you're working on paper

vernal moth
#

Good fries have paprika on them

azure flower
#

My experience with them varies depending on how recently they have refilled the fryer

unreal quarry
#

cat, do you sweat salt? my dad was like that. he ate salt with everything. and if he sweated his shirt out and let it air dry there would be white salt all over it

latent valve
#

no wonder you're working on paper
pepeLMAO pepeLMAO pepeLMAO pepeLMAO pepeLMAO pepeLMAO

void void
#

everyone sweats salt, its just in different concentrations

vernal moth
#

Everybody sweats salt

unreal quarry
#

enough to cover a shirt?

void void
#

thats impressive

cedar spade
#

cat: the quality of McDonalds fries depends on where you go :p

golden gust
#

see, I don't really use that much salt, tbqh; even these days I generally use lo-salt when I do need that

cedar spade
#

around where I live they're generally pretty good (for the UK at least)

unreal quarry
#

my dad would gte mcdonalds fries, ask for extra salt, come home and then add his own kitchen salt, too

cedar spade
#

every time I've been to one in an English city they're shit

unreal quarry
#

it was baaaaad

golden gust
#

See, I'm in central liverpool

cedar spade
#

...yeah

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have been to ones in London and Manchester and... yeah no thanks

serene bolt
#

I actually think the quality of mcdonalds near me has improved during the pandemic, the workers must be bored and put more effort into the food now lol

unreal quarry
#

the only thing i like from mcdonalds is the mcrib

cedar spade
#

get some good empty-town-in-the-Midlands McD fries

unreal quarry
#

idk what kind of meat the mcrib has, but its amazing

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we jokingly refer to it as kangaroo meat

vernal moth
#

I haven't eaten at McDonald's for like half a decade

cedar spade
#

or go to mainland Europe where they generally all seem to be better than the UK

vernal moth
#

And half a decade before that too

cedar spade
#

(from limited experience)

unreal quarry
cedar spade
#

fast food seems to be less popular where I've travelled in Europe, which means chain fast food restaurants actually have to put effort in

golden gust
#

never had a mcrib, tbqh

cedar spade
#

do they even do them in the UK?

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idk never seen them

unreal quarry
#

they're rare

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seasonal

golden gust
#

i thiiink maybe in their taste america range, but, i'm not too sure

unreal quarry
#

we get them in nov/dec here

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thats it

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they're so rare theres websites dedicated for reporting sightings of them

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golden gust
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ah, yea, we apparently had them last year

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they're like, just super mega rare here

cedar spade
#

thanks windows

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ffs just copy the fucking gif

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nevermind

unreal quarry
#

i think mcdonalds has a crab burger, too, but it was asia only

cedar spade
unreal quarry
fallen oracle
golden gust
#

Yup

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He's gonna be a dad

quasi valley
#

hangar wen

fallen oracle
#

I mean I would guess nukkit, but they have their own platform.

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It's kinda doo doo tho

#

Cause they won't do an API for the resources

vernal moth
#

Am sitting in my bath tub, trying to make my muscles stop hurt, lol

unkempt drift
#

ew

vernal moth
#

After that I'll continue to play with DB stuff

fallen oracle
#

MCBanners will be there ASAP to hook into Hangar when there's a proper API

unkempt drift
#

I actually didn't know about mcbanners until like 4 days ago. super useful

vernal moth
#

Starting to implement ore might be a good first start glare, lol

fallen oracle
#

Yeah, I'm not the best at getting the word out about it.

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It's still in beta tho

vernal moth
#

Because we will try to reimplement API v2

fallen oracle
#

It already supports Ore

vernal moth
#

We can do cross promotion ^^

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Ah then you fine

fallen oracle
#

Pls pls pls don't make it case sensitive tho

vernal moth
#

"click here to generate a banner on mc banners for your resource"

unkempt drift
#

yeah

fallen oracle
#

Cause right now Ore is case-sensitive so if you don't spell it right, the API won't return it.

vernal moth
#

Nice

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Gimme a sec, uploading NucLeus to ore

fallen oracle
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Yeah I found that out when I tried doing a banner for Plan, and when I put in Plan, it threw a 404, but plan works.

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So, pls, don't make it case-sensitive ❤️

vernal moth
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Can just to lower case everywhere

quasi valley
#

the actual ore pages don't care about casing, so it's prolly just a mishap in the api

quasi valley
unkempt drift
#

never heard of that?

quasi valley
#

just got a random GH badge for "contributing code to several repositories in the 2020 GitHub Archive Program"

#

not until now

peak dirge
#

apparently my code is in there rip

unkempt drift
#

lol, didn't even realize I had that badge already

#

oh wait, no I just got it as well

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they must've just rolled it out

cedar spade
#

wonder if EssentialsX will be of any use after the apocalypse

unkempt drift
#

pssh, will be the foundation society is built on for sure

cedar spade
#

kinda weird when you think of the stuff that's going to be included in it

unkempt drift
#

no pressure

robust hearth
#

is it ok to eat ice cream before dinner just because you don't want ice cream to melt?

serene bolt
#

2084: does EssX support 1.8?

cedar spade
#

no u

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it probably still will by then

minor badge
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esssx 1.6.4 wen

cedar spade
#

planning to deprecate 2.x by 2087

woven otter
#

Ess alpha 1.2.6 when

robust hearth
#

inb4 essx is bloated

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i would install essx if it didn't just assume i wanted 80% of the things it includes

void void
#

wait you dont!?

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also like theres configs

cedar spade
#

psst, you literally don't need to use them and they will have 0 impact on your server :p

robust hearth
#

yeah but it's a pain to "revert" all of the configs

cedar spade
#

there's only a few noticable defaults that matter

mighty storm
#

Just split up essx into 20 different modules

robust hearth
#

^

cedar spade
#

(with the exception of /tpr which does stuff by default in 2.18.0.0 but that's been patched already)

mighty storm
#

Don't agree with that it's a joke wtf

void void
#

haha

robust hearth
#

lowkey the best solution

void void
#

no

mighty storm
#

no

finite wave
#

Essentials is already 5? You need 5000 more?

void void
#

that'd be horrible

finite wave
#

If so make it like placeholderapi where you can download modules via the essentials commands.

cedar spade
#

back in 2011/2012 Essentials was split into around 10 modules, all of which got combined because people were complaining that it was too much effort to install them all

robust hearth
#

essx at this point is more of a pluginpack than a plugin

mighty storm
#

As of now they're distinct things

cedar spade
#

the current modules are distinct plugins that are dependent on the core plugin

spice finch
#

It's not, few modules each represents other functionality

robust hearth
#

is it really an effort to download 8 plugins instead of 1 plugin?

spice finch
#

It is

robust hearth
#

... people are very lazy

cedar spade
#

For some people, yes

mighty storm
#

Yes because you have to update ALL of them

finite wave
#

Some hosts limit amount of plugins so people will ree at them.

robust hearth
#

also it's literally as easy as select all instead of select one and paste

spice finch
#

Shared hostings pandaxd

robust hearth
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jan, that's a valid argument

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idea: package manager for papermc

cedar spade
#

hangar wen

mighty storm
#

Here's the thing: it's already like that. Just not with essentials, with actual different plugin

spice finch
#

Too hard to maintain, with hangar maybe

robust hearth
#

apt install essentialsx:module

finite wave
#

Fuck no lol

void void
#

god no

robust hearth
#

not with apt, that was just an example

#

but same idea, anyway

void void
#

i mean theres no issue in the first place

unkempt drift
#

hangar cli when?

robust hearth
#

what's hangar?

void void
#

it all works fine, just don't use the stuff you don't like

finite wave
#

Essentials could add some modular shit, but then again they shouldn't make all modules a plugin.

olive marlin
#

Working on a universal plugin manager like that rn mazunki.

mighty storm
#

Hangar is THE place to download paper plugins

cedar spade
#

Here's the thing: it's already like that. Just not with essentials, with actual different plugin
^ This - splitting up EssX doesn't really improve the current situation, if anything it makes it worse

olive marlin
#

Maybe will be in beta by the end of the month 😉

spice finch
#

Working on a universal plugin manager like that rn mazunki.
@olive marlin any repo?

robust hearth
#

i'd love to test/help, prof b

mighty storm
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Just type /update plugins into chat it's not hard frfr

cedar spade
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lol that's ambitious, Mini still has to clean up the mess I made in a couple of the templates

olive marlin
#

I have just a base now - need to rework it a bit since all cloudflare scrappers broke recently.

cedar spade
#

oh you weren't referring to hangar

olive marlin
#

I plan on adding Hangar when it becomes a thing.

robust hearth
#

i'd rather use maven than /update plugins

olive marlin
#

Now Spiget / Github / Jenkins ...

spice finch
#

hangar wen intensifies

olive marlin
#

I need to push it to repo at some point lol.

vernal moth
#

I mean, we are quite far with hangar, the last frontend fixes depend on being able to display data in the templates

#

So that's what I am doing next

robust hearth
#

but what is hangar, can I get a link?

olive marlin
#

Though it's just - define your plugins in a YAML file - it'll tell you which ones you can update and can download most automatically - and will fall back to telling you direct links to ones behind cloudflare.

vernal moth
#

.g MiniDigger hangar2

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vernal moth
#

Not much to see tho

mighty storm
#

fun

robust hearth
#

oh god GUI

#

i only approve of GUI for (performance) stats

mossy vessel
#

I can't login, I was gonna go and update my 1.7 pvp skript

mighty storm
#

I think I made an account it's either in limbo or deleted

vernal moth
#

Most likely deleted

#

I purged the DB multiple times

mighty storm
#

ah then probably oofed

#

Last time I signed up it was just essx

unkempt drift
#

yeah, test_paper is the new essX

#

just the working title for it 🙂

mighty storm
#

oh thank god

#

didn't know where else to get it

robust hearth
#

why am i like this, why do I want to make my own package manager just to learn how to make a package manager

mighty storm
#

That's common

#

Learn how something works by making it yourself

#

Learning by doing? Idk the term

#

Sure you'll be trash but every time you try it'll get better

frozen jacinth
#

Is there a way in essentials chat or paper to mute all players?

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with one command like /muteall

unreal quarry
#

/kickall shuts em up pretty quick

mighty storm
#

Calm down md_5

frozen jacinth
#

i cant believe it's not a command. oh well

serene bolt
#

does /mute * work? I have no idea what wildcards work in what commands, I know not all of the commands support it in EssX last I remember

mighty storm
#

Wildcards should work everywhere if they don't tbh

serene bolt
#

I remember some didn't when I played MC like 2 years ago with EssX so idk. who even plays MC anymore kappa

void void
#

i hope they don't do that in linux, i quite often do rm -rf * and that would kill me

#

well my OS but you get what i mean

mighty storm
#

I quite often do rm -rf *
why

void void
#

to clean up the current directory...

mighty storm
#

oh

#

So mvn clean is just rm -rf target/

unreal quarry
#

we need entity selectors in the api

minor badge
#

also the caches for any other plugins

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in case theyre not stored in target, that is

mighty storm
#

hi proxi

minor badge
#

helo

mighty storm
#

fun fact! Nothing starts with N and ends with G

serene bolt
minor badge
#

indeed it does

vestal jasper
#

nag

quasi valley
#

literally every verb starting with n in progressive form

static badge
#

I know of a word that has both n and g in it

ancient bolt
#

Don't even imply that

vestal jasper
#

ginger?

#

there are many words that have both those letters

ancient bolt
#

Drop it

fast kelp
#

Hi can i talk to someone?

vestal jasper
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gnarl gnarr gnars gnats goner gonia gonna goons grain grana grano grans grant green grein grens grins groan groin grone grunt guana guano guans gurns ignis ingan ingle ingot iring lagan legno lengs liang ligan ligne linga lingo lings logan login logon longa longe longs lunge lungi lungs nagar nagas nagor negro negus ngaio ngana ngati ngoni niger nogal nongs nugae orang organ ranga range rangi rangs regna reign renga renig rings rogan ruing rungs sanga sango sangs segni segno sengi signa signs singe sings slang sling slung snags snigs snogs snugs songs stang sting stong stung sugan suing tanga tangi tango tangs tenge tigon tinge tings toing tonga tongs tungs unget ungot unrig using

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oh and every word that ends with ing

shell vine
#

imagine replying with that after being told to drop it

ancient bolt
#

I said drop it

vestal jasper
finite wave
#

Lol

green turret
#

Where is magma

mighty storm
#

oh it's mule

static badge
#

magma is banned

mighty storm
#

see when i hear magma i get ptsd flashbacks to orchestra UIL, one of the hardest sight-reading pieces apparently

vernal moth
#

man, I wouldnt believe this if I didnt try it myself

mighty storm
#

whats the diff

vernal moth
#

sodium phosphor lithium vs vanilla

static badge
#

fabric mods

vernal moth
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240 vs 38 fps

mighty storm
#

oh

serene bolt
#

yeah sodium is insane

static badge
#

.g sodium fabric mc

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vernal moth
#

I mean, this is a dum resolution, but its still insane

static badge
#

I mean welcome to minecraft

mighty storm
#

so optifine but better?

serene bolt
#

significantly better

vernal moth
#

optifine but better in every single way

void void
#

apart from shaders but those suck

vernal moth
#

open source, not violating eula, not being awful and taking years to update

#

vanilla supports shaders 🤷

mighty storm
#

rip super secret settings :/

serene bolt
#

1.16.2 has even better shader support too

vernal moth
#

those are getting better every snapshot

#

ye

mighty storm
#

oh yeah, whats his name added that

static badge
#

6 times faster eh not bad

serene bolt
#

I bet leaf could do better

#

LeafEngine ™️

static badge
#

idk graphics so probably not

vernal moth
#

I mean, graphic work is reaaaly different to what paper does

latent valve
#

SaltyMC

mighty storm
#

paper is code, graphics is what code makes question mark

latent valve
ancient bolt
#

damn that's amazing

static badge
#

graphics is its own territory

latent valve
#

LeafClient when?

mighty storm
#

i dont know graphics either

#

frontend sucks

static badge
#

by graphics I mean opengl

mighty storm
#

yeah that too

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in general im code only thx

vernal moth
#

to bad that guy works for hytale now

static badge
#

good for hytale

vernal moth
#

doesnt fix their dum textures 😄

mighty storm
#

yeah ironically i really dont like hytale's textures

vernal moth
#

the textures ruin the game for me

ancient bolt
#

I mean working for hytale doesn't seem to be stopping them from working on their mod

vernal moth
#

since its not awfully hacky written, its easy to update I guess

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and I mean, hobby vs job

ancient bolt
#

Mixins are pretty easy to maintain

vernal moth
#

paperweight with mecurymixin when? 😄

ancient bolt
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and mcdev provides a lot of assitence in that department (but still has a long way to go to being correct all the time)

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automatically converting patches to mixins may be out of the wheelhouse for paperweight lol

vernal moth
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😄

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but for small stuff it might be an option to use mixins in the future, who knows

ancient bolt
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idk if anyone would really want to put all the effort in to convert everything to mixins

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idk maybe once I'm down with paperweight I'll do it

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one of the coolest things mixins would allow us to do is make anything optional

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no matter how big it is, if the config disables it we just don't apply that mixin config

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which would be cool

vernal moth
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technical minecraft players rejoice, lol

ancient bolt
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we could even structure the mixins into patches / features too if we wanted

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it's no problem having multiple mixins targeting a single class

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just would be harder to maintain if they overlapped

unreal quarry
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i like mixins, but not that much.. that'd honestly turn me away from such a large project as paper

ancient bolt
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well patches are awful

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and mixins are way nicer than patches, and more powerful

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vernal moth
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using mixins to add new events would be cool, using mixins for chunky leaf patches would prolly be hell

ancient bolt
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it's a different way of thinking

mighty storm
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so let me understand, patches is taking the giant spigot ball and tossing patches onto it and tada paper, but mixins is like taking a spigot bowl and adding only the ingredients you want?

unreal quarry
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mixins make me feel like i'm working on something separate and then throwing it against what it was made for, rather than working on something directly on what it was made for.. idk.

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hard to explain that

golden gust
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mixins hijack stuff at class load time, essentially

ancient bolt
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Mixins apply bytecode transformations directly to the class at class load time

golden gust
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patches make changes to the actual source

ancient bolt
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but the mixins you write are just normal java code

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and mcdev provides a lot of tooling which helps with the process of writing mixins significantly

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Fabric runs off of mcdev basically

serene bolt
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I prefer patches but mixins are without a doubt more powerful, depends on a lot of use cases though for my preference

mighty storm
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spigot uses patches right?

ancient bolt
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yeah

golden gust
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yes, as does paper right now

ancient bolt
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paper will likely never implement mixins imo

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too much pushback, regardless of any pros vs cons

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as much as I would like to give plugins a mixin option for interacting with low-level shit in a nicer way

mighty storm
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paper fork that uses mixins confirmed? Call it Bowl

golden gust
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Yea, personally, I'd kinda love to see it maybe for plugins to take advantage with a heavy "you do it, you fuck off" type of thing, but, especially with real mappings..

void void
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you mean fukkit?

ancient bolt
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I could see playing with a paper loader which supports mixin plugins

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maybe after paperweight, mixining into spigot mappings is oof

unreal quarry
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orion

golden gust
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Yea, mikro already did it, but, he doesn't deal with mappings or anything as part of his entire thing

heavy jetty
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Anyone know if there's a way to sort /list in a specific order with Essentials? For instance, I want my list to be:

Players: players sorted by primary group weight```The moss discord isn't the most helpful with it, I think because it's busy
ancient bolt
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yeah proper mapping support would be a prereq for me

golden gust
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I mean, essentials literally has a list where you define them in order or something?

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at least, from what I recall; if they support it, it's in their config

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But, they don't care about weights

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you'd need another plugin for that

cedar spade
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You can define groups of permissions groups to list together

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But no sorting within that vroup

heavy jetty
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Thanks guys

mighty storm
waxen panther
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yes yes

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new badge =D

mighty storm
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is that in the API i wonder

waxen panther
fallen oracle
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I got that too!

hollow plaza
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how do you get pro

waxen panther
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$

spiral garden
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poggers

waxen panther
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if you're a student you can claim it for free too

mighty storm
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$4/mo

hollow plaza
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Bruh

mighty storm
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it's not really anything anymore

hollow plaza
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What does it do?

mighty storm
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it just enabled public repo perks on private repos

waxen panther
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most of that has trickled down to free anyway

hollow plaza
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oh

waxen panther
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not really sure what big things pro has anymore

fallen oracle
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Students get the pack tho

mighty storm
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before you needed pro to make private repos, now everyone can

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hm, no badges show up in the api

hollow plaza
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yay I got the badge too

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I wonder which of my repos got put in there

mighty storm
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all public unless you opted out i believe

spiral garden
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all public that have at least 1 ⭐

mighty storm
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What public repositories are archived in the Arctic Code Vault?
On February 2, 2020 we took a snapshot of all of GitHub’s public repositories that have been active within recent months. The archive will include every repo with any commits between the announcement at GitHub Universe on November 13, 2019 and February 2, 2020, every repo with at least 1 star and any commits from the year before the snapshot (02/02/2019 - 02/02/2020), and every repo with at least 250 stars. Plus, gh-pages for any repository that meets the aforementioned criteria.

waxen panther
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it'd be nice if it showed all the projects you've contributed to that are in it

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it only shows 3

twin lagoon
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my shit raspberry pi oled python code will now archived

waxen panther
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truly epic

cedar spade
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BukkitPluginMD shall be archived

mighty storm
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we all know what isnt getting archived sadly

steel pulsar
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fucking dying to read 500 thousand random bashrc configs when the archives open up in 500 years