or 14 i dunno
#general
uncut moss
warm anchor
uncut moss
Minimum 13 i think
warm anchor
Oh nice
finite wave
I mean there was some talks about you being under 13 when u joined discord.
craggy haven
does anyone have a survvial seies i can join java and cracked
finite wave
kid
warm anchor
I can’t imagine being exposed to discord at 11. Some server is very questionable lol
craggy haven
does anyone have a survvial seies i can join java and cracked if so mesgae me
warm anchor
Oh no someone is very lost
worn pasture
Imagine if discord survives for decades and reading your own cringe teenage message a few decades later
it fucking sucks. there is stuff from when i was like 12 out there and it is terrible to look at when you're 30 😂
finite wave
Well good thing it is just messages.
sharp sentinel
Lmao I’m just having bad luck with Uber tonight
worn pasture
are you in vic @ me?
worn pasture
no lyft in aus
sharp sentinel
Nah Queensland
worn pasture
ah
sharp sentinel
Didi is here too but super rare
quasi valley
I hate using taxis
worn pasture
oh true, it's not in sydney haha
uncut moss
Buses
quasi valley
they're pretty much my last resort; bike, train, bus, own car, ..., taxi
warm anchor
Where’s walking 
finite wave
He is upside down, he slides.
warm anchor
Lol
quasi valley
I hate walking too, I use my bike for 200m distances 😂
finite wave
Is it hard to paddle with you hands?
quasi valley
I have an upsidedown bike of course
warm anchor
the view must be nice on the road
unreal quarry
quasi valley
lmao
warm anchor
Nice free butt buffer
finite wave
That man is in the wrong orientation
warm anchor
His butt must be smooth af
left swift
Must be talented to drive a bike upside down like that
unreal quarry
actually wait.. kenny is upside down too
left swift
That's a cool trick
finite wave
That's more like it billy.
left swift
Styling
zealous wedge
finite wave
https://bikerumor-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/sky-bike-upsidedown-bicycle.jpg
quasi valley
that's quite the red head
finite wave
Well we aren't all upside downers
quasi valley
amatures pf
finite wave
Real photo of kenny trying to be regular
limber knotBOT
you've just got to spend more time in australia
left swift
plush vigil
Can anyone suggest me a good AntiCheat Plugin for a survival server?
finite wave
quasi valley
at least he has the spirit
finite wave
limber knotBOT
irc remembers
finite wave
hahah
limber knotBOT
god that fucking spit emoji
left swift
That's actually so gross
limber knotBOT
^
left swift
Holy shit
finite wave
It's great
left swift
Delete 
limber knotBOT
MOOOODS
left swift
Omfl
quasi valley
thanks
left swift
You probably in some filthy discord that has 100s of them aren't u
finite wave
Imma stop sending spit emojis then.
finite wave
hasty path
curious, why do we have these emojis lol 
(and other TS ones, but where's Reputation 🤔 )
twin lagoon
hasty path
fair enough XD
finite wave
hasty path
But then still, I miss Reputation and Lover O.o
finite wave
and that one too 
might be time for glasses
left swift
hasty path
👓 
finite wave
hasty path
👀
twin lagoon
worn ember
https://i.imgur.com/Kf76hJd.gif didnt expect anything else from RIOT 
finite wave
Lol
latent valve
that why u dont play shitty game 
worn ember
i dont even have it installed anymore
i played cuz all my friends played
but i didnt enjoy it so i just went back to dotes
latent valve
imagine if dota use item like league like lower cooldown more magic damage i can only see cancer with most of dota hero xD
vernal moth
you blink and ur dead lul
@worn ember if you do one wrong move you are dead with most champs, lol
That's not exclusive to supports
Especially since there are tanky supports, those don't die quickly
worn ember
well i exclusively played support on league
and i wouldnt know
cuz i didnt have them 😉
vernal moth
Well, trust me, as an adc main, I die before most supports 😂
A dum veigar looks funny at me and I just fall flat
worn ember
lol my friend was grandmaster and spammed veigar xD
or whatever its called
challenger?
latent valve
trust me i play techie i see u u go boom
olive marlin
I thought having multiple Discord accounts is not allowed.
quasi valley
oO
finite wave
That is just your shitty discord ew
olive marlin
.s/shitty//
vestal jasper
have you clicked on them and checked their discrims?
or did you see the duplicate and instantly think "oh no he has an alt!!!!"
olive marlin
I know these are not alts - have the same # number etc.
Welp.
My Discord is broken now.
vestal jasper
so then why did you post that pic asking if alts are allowed?
olive marlin
Kneny is above all devs now.
finite wave
quasi valley
vestal jasper
olive marlin
Every time I scroll user list, I get more Kneny accounts.
vestal jasper
good
quasi valley
I will consume all that you know
finite wave
golden gust
Welcome to modern tech, aren't we in such a marvellous time
true canyon
Discord should implement some sort of unique ID system so they don't have this sort of issue
void void
discord should stop breaking stuff
finite wave
Cat petition to have bot that autochanges names of people that are annoying
void void
how does the bot recognise that people are being annoying?
left swift
If ur named after a band
left swift
vestal jasper
how about one that auto renames people who change their name for the explicit purpose of appearing at the top of the member list
finite wave
More like names that are untypable or simply @sterile flower or @void void
@gray coral Like this
void void
wtf is that garbage
finite wave
Oh kero fixed it, thx.
void void
yah makes sense but tbf those people aren't active here
finite wave
He was named ......... just before.
left swift
Prevent people from changing their nicknames
finite wave
@wet abyss
void void
well its not always nicknames
vestal jasper
some of those people at the top are even advertising in their statuses :)
left swift
Then giving thousands of dollars to discord so they dont allow dumb things in names :,)
wet abyss
?
left swift
┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
finite wave
It's greatly annoying having to rely on the recent user to tag people due to their super ambitious names.
vestal jasper
you can right click -> mention
left swift
Just dont tag people
vestal jasper
but that's still super annoying to have to do
finite wave
Vic, i just want to type their name
vestal jasper
especially when they haven't spoken recently
finite wave
Like any sane person
vestal jasper
what are you saying people's names / nicknames should be legible and able to be annunciated? kek
quasi valley
all of the people with a ! at their start should have it changed to a z lol
quasi valley
unreal quarry
ikr whats up with that
finite wave
Fuck you @unreal quarry Oh, thank god you didn't change your actual disc tag.
vestal jasper
there we go
quasi valley
seems perfectly normal to me 
unreal quarry
^_^
finite wave
Oh shit the timings tutorial is 44 minutes.
finite wave
Yes
vestal jasper
oh god
quasi valley
finite wave
left swift
left swift
What
void void
haah
cunning raft
What the fuck happened
quasi valley
yes
finite wave
Not much
finite wave
Hmm?
void void
yes its a clue
finite wave
gray coral
lmao
void void
ASCII!
vernal moth
(am actually serious)
finite wave
Yes please.
void void
yeah theres few uses for most of unicode
finite wave
Only those chinese plebs need fancy unicode
gray coral
keep it all, why not? i dont see a con
mental meadow
wtf
static badge
vestal jasper
your name is a con
left swift
Kpop jan tuck
finite wave
mental meadow
BTS Jan
left swift
When's the new single coming out jan truck
finite wave
left swift
Jan truck is his country persona
magic ice
vernal bone
Hello!
I'm currently trying to make a filesystem for one of my drives using the command mkfs in ubuntu.
Witch filesystem is the best for running a minecraft survival server?
I assume ext4
golden gust
i'd just stick to ext4
vernal bone
Allright, thank you!
golden gust
I kinda love btrfs, but, no idea how well that plays towards mc, but, it's defo not as battle tested as ext4, so 🤷♂️
pulsar fox
great plus of a fs like btrfs or zfs is snapshotting for server backups & rollbacks but if you aren't familiar with them already then that's getting a little advanced
pulsar wigeon
imagine this server having a rule against making your name look retarded
static badge
imagine this server having a rule against being retarded
twin lagoon
having a discord bot filter out zalgo automatically is the best thing there is
void void
pulsar wigeon
yea that would be a shame we'd lose leaf
static badge
already lost you
quasi valley
there even is a rule, just no wiz to enforce .-.
pulsar wigeon
thatsthejoke.jpg
quasi valley
oops.bmp
static badge
F.png
finite wave
void void
jan you seem to have some very strange emotes lmao
finite wave
void void
ok...
pulsar fox
@twin lagoon ye it was cool till we had to disable it 😦
twin lagoon
wtf toboshii
pulsar fox
it was filtering people having conversations about archiving projects that had japanese content lol
or korean, or chinese
twin lagoon
you can just enable nickname zalgo filtering only
finite wave
pulsar fox
banana man told us nickname filtering wasn't even a thing yet, that it was only in LMG
only username filtering
twin lagoon
er, username filterign yes
it doesn't do nickname filtering no
which is why we disable users changing their nicknames except for nitro boosters 
glad shell
Good morning, could you help me please, the other day I followed the steps of the optimization guide that includes papermc, but I touched something, which makes my survival mobs freeze or static, in a short period of time, thanks https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
warm anchor
#paper-help Also that's not nearly enough of details. You can just remove the yml file and start all over again
crystal sun
Where can i find some taco spigot help?
twin lagoon
.g tacospigot discord
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://yivesmirror.com/downloads/tacospigot -- TacoSpigot Downloads - Yive's Mirror: "Downloads for TacoSpigot. ... Discord · Twitter. Filters. Latest 1.12.2 1.8.8 ... It is highly recommended to stop using TacoSpigot and use Paper..."
twin lagoon
fork it
warm anchor
Do it yourself!
twin lagoon
that's not even a tacospigot specific question
yeah you're going to have to do it yourself regardless
cunning raft
look at its branding patches
crystal sun
it aint in main.java
cunning raft
if you can't figure out how to edit the brand you shouldn't be editing it
quasi valley
main.java
unreal quarry
why would you want to edit the output of version? thats just confusing for when you need support and you are running /version MyAwesomeServerV38
twin lagoon
but muh branding
unreal quarry
thats like ripping off the logo on your car and putting your own name instead
steel pulsar
big power move
unreal quarry
thats not a honda. thats a Billy
steel pulsar
my friend bought a mazda and ripped the, and i quote, "japanese shit" from the back and put a facebook group decal on it
serene bolt
what the hell happened to billys name, my eyes
worn ember
dont leaf us
pulsar fox
@twin lagoon the biggest problem with the zalgo username filtering is my wife is the worst offender 
https://s.56k.pw/a/Jv4623X.png
olive marlin
Is there an easy way to see when a specific API method got exposed in Spigot?
Wondering why TF they did this:
final Random random = new Random(worldSeed + x * x * 4987142 + x * 5947611 + z * z * 4392871L + z * 389711 ^ 0x3AD8025FL);
if (random.nextInt(10) == 0) {
//Slime chunk
}
else {
// Not slime chunk
}
Instead of checking directly on the chunk.
kindred storm
lol
void void
anyone ever use chunkmaster in here?
after it pregens
do i need to do anything else or is it good to go?
olive marlin
ChunkMaster is good, from what I've heard.
vestal jasper
mfw people have an issue with a plugin and don't even bother checking if there's an update for it
10/10
finite wave
No one updates their shit.
vestal jasper
literally this dude is having an issue that the following update existed solely to fix
void void
stares at people complaining about discord crashing
vestal jasper
and the update's been out for 24 hours
finite wave
Nirvana i literally complained when there was no update so suck it.
void void
well yeah then it was fine to complain
serene bolt
welcome to the world where nobody ever updates unless something hard breaks
and even then they just complain about it instead of checking for an update lol
finite wave
The guys coming with 1.15.2 protocol stuff wondering why their 1.16 server doesn't work in #paper-help
vestal jasper
Oh man I can't wait until I start getting people complaining about issues with my plugin(s)
void void
Imagine updating your phone
vestal jasper
give them the 
when they're behind in versions
void void
i will not give up my nokia until 2G dies!
i'm weird aren't i haha
thank god i don't use the internet on it
must be a security hell hole
finite wave
Opening windows store be like https://i.imgur.com/s0h3dOS.png
vernal moth
why did you install 33 apps via the windows store in the first place?
twin lagoon
a lot of pre installed apps mini
void void
i think thats the bloatware
vernal moth
this is pretty much how my install came
I think I installed minecraft manually, same with netflix and ubuntu
minor badge
dont forget candy crush saga, the only game which is forcefully reinstalled every single fucking windows update
vernal moth
not for me?
vernal moth
can I check when I did the last reinstall of windows?
minor badge
it might be that theyve finally removed that or smth, but i distinctly remember having to remove candy crush saga like a trillion times
vernal moth
am also on win10 pro btw
minor badge
i used win 10 home
finite wave
Those a windows normal shit mini
steel pulsar
they still install candy crush automatically
finite wave
twin lagoon
they do yeah but they don't seem to install it after an updatae anymore
they install a bunch of bloat on first install
finite wave
Mini, how did you get the paper script to work in wsl
quasi valley
xbox apps
twin lagoon
by just using paper
vernal moth
Original Install Date: 20.06.2020, 12:24:42
twin lagoon
it works fine in wsl
quasi valley
dos2unix once at best, if you have magic line breaks
twin lagoon
finite wave
Big cry https://i.imgur.com/djbUx19.png
twin lagoon
don't use /mnt
quasi valley
dos2unix
twin lagoon
that is indeed how to fix it but you shouldn't use /mnt
vernal moth
or just check out in wsl
steel pulsar
this is likely just a shell thing
twin lagoon
NTFS is extremely slow in wsl
void void
😎 no updates
twin lagoon
if you use WSL in /mnt you might aswell use git for bash
lmao
nirvana your terminal colour is fucking cancer
minor badge
parrot os
void void
i like it
quasi valley
you also need to convert the scripts folder
minor badge
i love birbs but that's a stupid os
steel pulsar
imagine using fucking green
void void
its setup just how i like it
finite wave
steel pulsar
green on black is indeed hard on the eyes
twin lagoon
you're colour blind
void void
actually no
twin lagoon
you're dumb
void void
yes
minor badge
i too use green but it's not... that green
steel pulsar
contrast white on contrast black isn't that nice but fuckin green on black is way worse
void void
whats wrong with that green
void void
hm maybe
steel pulsar
mixed with the blue and the red it just looks jarring
twin lagoon
steel pulsar
i doubt this
void void
noooo
twin lagoon
green on black for the extra effect
steel pulsar
see like that green on black is fine
void void
youtube-dl 👀
twin lagoon
yes
steel pulsar
also is that the windows terminal
twin lagoon
yes
serene bolt
finally with tabs
twin lagoon
it also has tiling
steel pulsar
i had problems with url hyperlinks in the windows terminal
whereas in wsltty you just hold ctrl and click links
minor badge
look i too have tiling and i didnt have to wait for michaelsoft 🅱️inbows to add it https://owo.whats-th.is/AQzWeNN.png
serene bolt
Windows 11
minor badge
stop leaking 😡
steel pulsar
lol voidlinux
minor badge
bet youd leak my private birbfetcher repo changes too if you had the chance smh smh
its linux & works better than arch for me, red :)
void void
the OS that i want the most tbh is qubes os
for now i have the poor man's version which is a bunch of virtual machines
minor badge
at least youre not viper
void void
wooo
steel pulsar
i mean everything works better than arch
minor badge
i was on arch for quite a while, was pretty decent
twin lagoon
proxi 
twin lagoon
henlo
minor badge
:o
spice finch
Does voidlinux void your work after shutdown? 
void void
how many more file systems do you need
steel pulsar
btrfs is neat but it's no zfs
minor badge
if you need more, you can set up partitions yourself before running the installer
void void
the arch way
minor badge
or just make your own install media (void-mklive) with the extra filesystems
finite wave
First time i installed arch took me 2 hours.
steel pulsar
isn't the void repo incredibly slow in the same way that debian stable is
my knowledge of voidlinux ends at around 2013
summer jackal
Hi folks, do you can know about Cloudflare Spectrum Service for AntiDDOS for Minecraft?
kindred storm
I do can know about it
worn ember
mighty storm
gotta remove do or can there bud
mighty storm
I believe it's free in the Pro plan right?
summer jackal
Not really
mighty storm
5 GB cap per month
summer jackal
Pro plan will be free for 5gb cap
but minecraft servers will use this in one day
after that, I think will be 1 euro per gb
summer jackal
I was looking for it but when I see the prices
IS complete BS
Is not usable in any way
mighty storm
it looks like it's not even made for minecraft
it's just there because minecraft
tbf this is one of the least shadiest things cf has done
summer jackal
Trully sad about it
tbf this is one of the least shadiest things cf has done
@mighty storm I really fan of the cf, they do a lot good things for free, but this prices is complete BF
vast drift
Anybody know a plug-in that can give players items or a kit after they die?
worn ember
@mighty storm like?
worn ember
these are hardly cases?
minor badge
where there is a service, there will be abuse
worn ember
its basically 10x "cloudflare protects cyber criminals"
and its not like you need to verify yourself to get cloudflare setup
azure flower
Tbh that site has done a pretty poor job of getting me to take it seriously
worn ember
^^
azure flower
Would using a generic wordpress theme be too much to ask
as well as a standard http port
worn ember
the first paragraph already made me question it
azure flower
Also ssl certificates have been free via letsencrypt for like 5 years now? Yet this site without any certificate to speak of is trying to complain about cf's "half baked ssl"
worn ember
thats like saying Redhat distro's are responsible for people abusing their tools for pen testing
didnt even notice the non standard port xD
minor badge
as i said, where there is a service, there will be abuse; the site's a joke and really just outlines people abusing the service which is inevitable
vernal moth
man, registering online for an appointment for a fucking swimming pool feels so wrong
worn ember
yeah welcome to 20 20 m8
static pilot
i wanted to take my nephew to a water park lol
there were screenings and shit, we had to reserve them on specific days at specific times
and the tickets were 2x their normal price
worn ember
i think swimming pools are still closed here
vernal moth
prices are about the same
glad narwhal
hi guys. Can somebody explain me what a frick is this?
glad narwhal
well it's clear for me
vernal moth
see the subinterfaces
glad narwhal
why the fuck md5 added 3 more classes for this shit. What usual components have done to him
glad narwhal
what version is it?
glad narwhal
well there's one remaining thing that isnt clear for me. Why click and hover event dont work within tooltip if they do.
minor badge
well can you hover or click on the text in a tooltip
glad narwhal
can
vernal moth
I need recommendations for what lib I should use to make typesafe java sql calls
is jooq the way to go?
grave oxide
I like jdbi quite a bit for SQL stuff, not sure about its typesafety
grave oxide
Thats not what youre looking for?
vernal moth
idk what am looking for 😄
vernal moth
I dont think so
basically, I have this DB model and need to execute all kind of complicated queries against it https://i.imgur.com/m4wY6uj.png
in a real time environment
vernal moth
ill just go with jooq
vagrant niche
That's a big image, can't even zoom
mighty storm
woah
static pilot
size doesn't matter
vagrant niche
can barely read the text
slim nymph
sql isnt hard
potent fossil
^
slim nymph
problem with ORM's is also pulling back more data than you even need
i like my queries to be action and goal oriented
vernal moth
That's why I don't want a orm
potent fossil
JOOQ is an ORM
vernal moth
Doesn't it only fetch what I till it to?
Since I write the queries
I would only map tables to java, not entities and relations, right?
potent fossil
how do you join just some fields in a table in jooq
vernal moth
Idk, I never used anything like this. I only did plain jdbc or hibernate before
vernal moth
What would you recommend?
potent fossil
jdbi as mentioned before
lets you set of java interfaces and mappers while maintaining full control over the SQL
jdbi is just a wrapper over jdbc
slim nymph
i feel like id spend more time trying to figure out how to use said lib than just writing the sql myself
potent fossil
failing that, just jdbc
vernal moth
I looked at jdbi earlier, looked nice too
slim nymph
and considering you can write full prepared statements in a single line of code with you know lovely 3 letter acronym DB library
potent fossil
i havent used idb before but i think he's looking for spring integration provided?
maybe
slim nymph
but is it really necessary lol
slim nymph
gib me data, take my data, done
serene bolt
did you get your free copy simple?
vernal moth
Yeah spring handles the DB connection I don't have a benefit of idb I think
serene bolt
ah okay
slim nymph
have any of yall played Remnants from the ashes
serene bolt
nope I've heard of it though
slim nymph
IDB isnt just about connectionpooling, its more about reducing amount of code to complete tasks
its a really cool game
void void
since ur asking about games
vernal moth
I played the original watchdogs, not sure I ever finished it tho
slim nymph
nope
void void
rip
vernal moth
Nah, I heard good things tho
slim nymph
i dont get to play many games lol
vernal moth
Quantic dreams make cool stuff
void void
yeah they made detroit become human
void void
i tried the demo for beyond two souls
serene bolt
I've been addicted to playing OpenRCT2 recently, so much fun to just build rollercoasters and chill out
void void
really enjoyed it
vernal moth
Openrct2 <3
The first time I opened that, years after playing rct2, just the logo screens and the title screen got me biiiig vibes
serene bolt
I know right lol
vernal moth
Like, all the sounds and shit, it's my childhood
serene bolt
yup, same here
slim nymph
i like this game though as its REALLY challenging
vernal moth
I still like rct2 more than planet coaster too
Even tho planet coaster is the next best thing
potent fossil
when i want to relax i play stardew valley
serene bolt
yeah I own planet coaster, it's definitly the best modern game of its type, but RCT2 is better still
yeah stardew valley is a super good game for that too
slim nymph
noobs need not apply for remnants. man even the first boss struggled on
vernal moth
Factorio has the same vibes to me as rct2
serene bolt
difficult games just make me loose interest tbh haha, I have so little time to play games that when I play them I just want to have some fun and not worry about grinding stuff out, that's for my MMO days :P
vernal moth
Got to see it first hand by the lead designer at gamescom last year, gave me an hour long presentation with 5 other dudes
Difficult games are cool, just need to not be frustrating
Super meat boy <3
slim nymph
this one isnt super time sucking, but yeah it can be frustrating if you just keep dying
vernal moth
See, super meat boy is designed for you to die all the time, but dying doesn't matter. Fair checkpoints and instant respawn take out all frustration
serene bolt
the crash bandicoot triology is another fun platformer that's difficult but really fun
slim nymph
yeah when you die in this game, you go back to last checkpoint and everythings respawned, but you dont get items used back
but bosses always have a checkpoint before them
quasi valley
well just 2 hours ago I dug up another platformer I loved to play a good couple of years ago https://i.imgur.com/uyaem4o.jpeg :D
vernal moth
Heh
Last game I really played thru was ori
And well, Anno I guess
Other than that I only really play league every now and then, a few times per month
I haven't played any game in like two weeks, lol
And we didn't even get to do a board game night last weekend
serene bolt
oh yeah I've got the new Ori installed, haven't had time to play it yet
quasi valley
oh didn't know there was a new one
vernal moth
It's really cool again
A while back I did a bunch of portal 2 coop, that's a game that always gets me again
Then you need a story game
I heard last of us two had a good story
😂
topaz mortar
Portal 2 workshop content is cool as well.
lavish nova
what's up gamers
fallen oracle
Hello, fellow gamer.
lavish nova
🎮
vernal moth
We talking about good games, what do you play currently?
Still struggling with cities? 😂
Yeah I know, that's what I got too, the whole outcry is just a meme
I never finished the first one sooo
Did the first one ever reach PC?
Idk, lol
void void
is this a partnership or something?
vernal moth
I don't have a PS4 and I ain't playing PS3
But PlayStation now would allow me to play on PC, wouldn't it?
cedar spade
No, WE is literally just stating it works better on Paper
void void
it's rly obnoxious
cedar spade
You can stream on PS Now if your internet is good enough
void void
i have nothing against paper but when i'm trying to look at logs in my dev environment like 25 lines of ads is uncool
void void
spigot isn't bad it's slower
cedar spade
(psst develop against Paper for better API)
void void
the paper API doesn't vary much from spigot's at all
kindred storm
Paper isn't showing you that message
quasi valley
Slower and worse api = bad, change my mind 👀
kindred storm
you're using Spigot, not Paper
void void
paper > spigot, facts
kindred storm
so it's not Paper which is doing anything
vernal moth
It does if you care about performance violet. Async chunk loading, block state without snapshot etc
cedar spade
don't develop against Spigot
vernal moth
Why would your dev env not mirror prod? Lol
void void
because i'm making public plugins and i refuse to make ones that don't work on spigot?
hm dev env and prod env being different, thats always a great idea
🙄
vernal moth
Anyways, not a paper issue, if you hate it so much use console spam fixer I guess
kindred storm
supporting Spigot is not the issue here
kindred storm
that message is not from Paper
void void
i spent like two messages on it until you guys went "REEEE YOURE NOT USING PAPER"
yes
you're not using PAPER
quasi valley
only need hangar running at some point 
void void
@quasi valley hangah wehn
quasi valley
cedar spade
yall should play Hitman 2
neat smelt
angahr hwen ?
cedar spade
(2018, that is)
void void
.typing
serene bolt
I've beaten every single mission on Hitman 2 and did all the objectives, all while having perfect silent assassin. took like a month and a half
limber knotBOT
serene bolt
but was so much fun
peak dirge
It's just saying that WorldEdit will have better performance on Paper. And you should use Paper anyway, because you'll get the benefits that only Taylor Swift, cats, tacos, and crazy performance-obessed freaks are doing.
cedar spade
story is meh but it's really fun trying out different way to kill people
Haven't gotten any silent assassins yet lol, probably gonna try a couple when I finish Hitman 1
quasi valley
problem is that everyone uses paper, but still only wants to compile against spigot :p
yet
serene bolt
the new hitman, the "modern" series
cedar spade
I've got three old ones on PS2, haven't played any of them yet
quasi valley
meh I kinda didn’t like hitman, tho I only played it for like half an hour at a friend’s
cedar spade
No, that was only for Hitman 1 before it got released as a full game
vernal moth
Who plays hitman for the story? Lol
cedar spade
And you could just buy the whole game at once if you wanted
vernal moth
I played the 2018 one at the Nvidia rtx launch event
serene bolt
but to be fair, they really screwed up in doing that episodic release stuff. they said they were sorry and wouldn't do it again in the future
vernal moth
While being hella drunk
serene bolt
yeah
vernal moth
Gimme a sec, I have a pic waiting in line to play that game
cedar spade
Hitman GOTY is the whole first game as one purchase, Hitman 2 is the sequel
If you buy GOTY then you can play it all inside Hitman 2 too
serene bolt
you can play all of hitman 1 inside of hitman 2 actually if you own the first game, which has all the new stuff
yeah
vernal moth
1
cedar spade
cries in 150GB used of my SSD
serene bolt
great tinder profile picture
vernal moth
It was the car race level
cedar spade
Miami
serene bolt
that level is pretty insane at showing off how many NPCs the engine can render and handle in such a dense way
cedar spade
Yeah it's insane
quasi valley
the flamingo costume is the best part of that level
cedar spade
surprisingly my poor old underpowered GPU can sorta handle it too
serene bolt
yeah lol the flamingo costume
cedar spade
I mean you can just endlessly shoot out the cars and nobody bats an eye lol
quasi valley
(I watched a friend play that level, was more fun than playing it myself lol)
serene bolt
some people don't play silent at all and just instant kill all the targets and it's like uhhhh, I don't think you understand hitman
vernal moth
The other game I played that day was bfV, crashed 4 times in the session, two times the whole server crashed 😂
cedar spade
I tried to silent assassin all the targets and ended up slightly fucking up every time lol
vernal moth
Then you try again, that's the whole cool thing about the game
Also, another cool game like that, splinter cell blacklist
cedar spade
Yeah, and there's loads of different ways to do everything too
serene bolt
anyways that's our advertisement for Hitman 2 - buy it today
cedar spade
I made the mistake of playing Hitman 2 before Hitman 1 and now all the levels from 1 seem a bit... meh
topaz mortar
I play tomb raider in stealth mode.
cedar spade
Like, I watched a video of someone play through Paris when it first came out and they seemed impressed by it, but it just doesn't seem anywhere near as polished
I mean I played Just Cause 3 in stealth mode, so...
vernal moth
Oh right, I didn't finish tomb raider yet either
That was a game I just played on my couch
cedar spade
(for context, Just Cause 3 is the cheesy action movie of videogames)
quasi valley
JC 3 in stealth? OO
cedar spade
yes don't judge
void void
so my problem with the above is that it was giving warnings instead of info, so i can't filter by warnings without seeing that big message
quasi valley
I am judging you
topaz mortar
The last three are finished to 80+%. I'm stuck in a boss battle in the last one.
quasi valley
It’s worldedit (or whatever) including the lib and calling the suggest, which is reasonable given it literally runs dozens of times faster in some of its operations
cedar spade
It arguably is a useful warning
quasi valley
Should be easy enough filtering it still
void void
not if it's run on every single startup
quasi valley
If you really want to
serene bolt
wait is the paperlib advertisement actually that big lol? I thought it was smaller than that tbh
void void
yes
cedar spade
idk I thought it was 2 lines?
void void
no
serene bolt
that's what I thought.... are you sure the WE one is the paperlib suggest?
void void
logger.warning("====================================================");
logger.warning(" " + pluginName + " works better if you use Paper ");
logger.warning(" as your server software. ");
if (System.getProperty(benefitsProperty) == null) {
System.setProperty(benefitsProperty, "1");
logger.warning(" ");
logger.warning(" Paper offers significant performance improvements,");
logger.warning(" bug fixes, security enhancements and optional");
logger.warning(" features for server owners to enhance their server.");
logger.warning(" ");
logger.warning(" Paper includes Timings v2, which is significantly");
logger.warning(" better at diagnosing lag problems over v1.");
logger.warning(" ");
logger.warning(" All of your plugins should still work, and the");
logger.warning(" Paper community will gladly help you fix any issues.");
logger.warning(" ");
logger.warning(" Join the Paper Community @ https://papermc.io");
}
logger.warning("====================================================");
}```Pure, we just don’t see it because we run sane software even on test servers 😂
void void
first startup
kindred storm
lol
mossy vessel
The first time it's called you get the long one, every other plugin calling it should be the two liner
kindred storm
it's not like you can "just make things happen on first startup"
void void
...yes you can
kindred storm
to do that, you need to store persistent data
void void
yeah
serene bolt
ah gotcha, that's why I'm used to seeing the 2 line version
kindred storm
you just make PaperLib.suggestPaper a lot less efficient
Do you want a bunch of little files?
void void
i don't care
quasi valley
We don’t care about people complaining about the message ;p
kindred storm
Truthfully, it's not hurtful to performance. It just makes things unnecessarily harder to maintain.
cedar spade
Either way, PaperLib is included by choice in plugins, this isn't going anywhere
vernal moth
So let's just stop
void void
public static void suggestPaper(@Nonnull Plugin plugin) {
if (isPaper()) {
return;
}
final String benefitsProperty = "paperlib.shown-benefits";
final String pluginName = plugin.getDescription().getName();
final Logger logger = plugin.getLogger();```this functoinality is built in
its a bug
void void
no, that's what i'm saying
the code right there limits it to 2 lines
but i'm getting the whole thing every time
it's just a bug
cedar spade
...?
kindred storm
um, those are String declarations?
kindred storm
why would that mean the log message is only 2 lines?
void void
final String benefitsProperty = "paperlib.shown-benefits";
final String pluginName = plugin.getDescription().getName();
final Logger logger = plugin.getLogger();
logger.warning("====================================================");
logger.warning(" " + pluginName + " works better if you use Paper ");
logger.warning(" as your server software. ");
if (System.getProperty(benefitsProperty) == null) {
System.setProperty(benefitsProperty, "1");```that ^
cedar spade
System.getProperty(benefitsProperty) == null
kindred storm
Perhaps you should analyse the if statement
void void
exactly, it limits it to 2 lines
vernal moth
It's only showing the big once, then the small
void void
yeah ^
vernal moth
Per startup
void void
that's what's not working
serene bolt
this conversation is just going in full circles non stop lol
kindred storm
hey look, you can set a system property to disable most of this message
if you really care that much
vernal moth
It's not persistent
kindred storm
no
vernal moth
Yes
kindred storm
no one cares to store it persistently
void void
what the fuck
vernal moth
Once every station
kindred storm
why tf would anyone do that
vernal moth
Start-up
ancient bolt
It should be every startup
quasi valley
If you have 10 plugins strongly benefiting from paper, why not...?
ancient bolt
That's intentional
cedar spade
@quasi valley there's a reason I have so many hours in JC3 without having finished it :p
quasi valley
It just tells you how much better you’d be off the more you see it
vernal moth
Again, we really don't care, raise your complaints elsewhere. Everything is working as intentional
potent fossil
just replace bruhs with server owners
cedar spade
(part of the reason being my old PC BSODed one day and I lost my save file)
quasi valley
Oh lol, nice md
kindred storm
This is just going in circles. This is a message from WorldEdit, not Paper. You can disable it via system property if you really care that much. No one will store state persistently just for you.
cedar spade
...and this is why I'm still on the fence over suggestPaper in EssX :p
quasi valley
Md you chicken
cedar spade
Yeah, but any issue (or non-issue) that only affects one user in EssX gets multiplied by 100 in support noise
vernal moth
Just send them the system property and tell them to stfu
quasi valley
At least move the resource to hangar if it’s ever done
vernal moth
Inb4 hangar injecting that message into every plugin
kindred storm
They have no idea what a system property is, that's the problem.
Just like that user.
tawdry coyote
imagine if it's on hangar and doesn't support paper that would be a :peppega:
kindred storm
Likely, they use a shared host and can't even set properties.
vernal moth
This is a problem that is only temporary anyways
cedar spade
I've been playing quite a bit of Yakuza 0 recently
vernal moth
As papers market share is rising daily
serene bolt
imagine if it's on hangar and doesn't support paper that would be a :peppega:
people already do that on spigot with paper plugins so....
pulsar fox
I don't want to perpetuate this conversation, and don't care wither way since I never use Spigot. But does that not classify as an advertisement which is specifically against the Spigot ToS in console messages?
kindred storm
No, it's an informational message
cedar spade
Depends on how Spigot chooses to enforce it :p
vernal moth
Worldedit isn't on spigot ^^
serene bolt
it's WorldEdit, they don't use spigot for resources
kindred storm
If the plugin runs considerably faster on Paper, then it's a true message.
void void
there are situations in which i can't use paper
vernal moth
Imagine hangar singing an exclusive deal with engine hub 😂
kindred storm
Depends on your definition of advertisement.
vernal moth
Why can't you use paper?
serene bolt
it's just a warning lol, you're not being forced to use paper
void void
like working for companies or picking up contracts
kindred storm
This is going to get funnier.
void void
my solution to the problem is to make it information logs, not to remove them
to make things easier
kindred storm
People forbidding you from using Paper
cedar spade
The solution you want is for suggestPaper to go away, and this is not the place that's going to give you that solution
vernal moth
Virtually any server that calls itself a company uses paper, lol
void void
The solution you want is for suggestPaper to go away, and this is not the place that's going to give you that solution
@cedar spade literally just said the opposite
cedar spade
(or a derivative thereof)
vestal jasper
You're telling paper not to tell people to "just use paper" you realise how weird that sounds right?
pulsar fox
I only brought that up as a point of interest, cause I know playerwarps got slapped this morning by spigot for having advertisements in console lol
void void
i can't do that in all situations
pulsar fox
(purely because a bunch of people on admincraft whined about it)
finite wave
You just start the 📎, much easier than running 🏛️ 🛠️
serene bolt
(purely because a bunch of people on admincraft whined about it)
yeah.... brigading reports is a dumb thing that I wish people would stop doing
cedar spade
classical building hammer and wrench is indeed a pain
void void
lmao
vestal jasper
dude I like to run 👁️ 💍 🦑 personally
serene bolt
I have no idea why people think "Everyone report this!!!" is a good strategy, that's a good way to get the report closed for brigading which happens all the time
vast parcel
is windoes free no
i downladed the wndwos ISO from the microsoft website and now every time i try install it doesn ot ask for a key
it gives me it free
vestal jasper
it is if you don't mind watermarks
but yeah no it hasn't forced you to use a license for a few years now
serene bolt
Windows 10 doesn't bother you about keys really anymore, besides the watermark and personalization options
serene bolt
the watermark shows up after a few hours
vestal jasper
if your screen is large enough you learn to ignore it 
vast parcel
i wanted to dowanlod linux beause i want to start using the paper mc for plugins now
pulsar fox
depends on the version
vast parcel
i want to write my owne
serene bolt
I'm on Wiindows 10 LTSC, living that app free life
ancient bolt
No
vast parcel
wow amazeing so they developed a hole os for free and for prsonal use
neat smelt
Wiindows?
Nintendos Windows edition?
pulsar fox
I'm on 
living that 
free life
ancient bolt
With Linux you pay through premature aging and increased stress
vast parcel
when i serch for linux it gives me nomerous options
saies linux.org, then ubuntu, linuxmint
finite wave
Use msdos
vast parcel
witch do i dwnload
neat smelt
minecraft
vast parcel
thhere are manie
cedar spade
lol barty
vast parcel
and do i put them on as usb
void void
i have an enterprise key a friend gave me
pulsar fox
install gentoo
void void
games are just faster on windows for me
static pilot
it's strange
cedar spade
You can ignore the ridiculous Japanese minigames if you don't want to play them lmao
void void
because it has more proprietary support
neat smelt
linux as a desktop os is just such a pain in the ass to use
static pilot
pretty sure the newer windows versions just ship preactivated or something if you don't choose to enter a product key
cedar spade
but fair enough
serene bolt
Any non weeb game suggestions?
HunieCam Studio
olive marlin
@vast parcel if you are familiar with windows and new to Linux - my recommendation is Linux Mint - Cinnamon edition.
static pilot
i've reinstalled windows like ten times
olive marlin
New windows store keys in bios or smth like that.
void void
not by choice
pulsar fox
linux as a desktop os is just such a pain in the ass to use
I'd say that about windows lol
static pilot
mint's ok depending on what you want to use linux for
if you want to get raw CLI experience and diagnose your own issues then no
it holds your hand too much
pulsar fox
every time I have to fix something on my wifes computer I want to pull my hair out
windows dum dum
static pilot
i'd install mint for my grandma
cause grandma only needs a working computer, nothing too complicated
olive marlin
I mean - I personally installed mint just to dual boot to compile stuff - and within one hour I knew I'm not coming back to windows.
neat smelt
linux dum dum
olive marlin
You don't need to start with raw cli experience - you'll slowly learn it anyway.
static pilot
i'm just saying
cedar spade
one thing I will say is 90% of windows issues are just bad drivers or hardware and Windows crapping out because it doesn't know how to respond
static pilot
there's a difference between using linux to learn how to use linux
and using linux to just not use windows
using mint is the latter
it's basically linux easy mode
neat smelt
i'd rather stick to a decrapified windows version that using linux as a dekstop os
cedar spade
unfortunately I've seen so many PCs sold with Windows with funky drivers and OEM crap that the blame just always goes on Windows
serene bolt
WSL basically removed the need I had to switch to linux as my primary desktop OS, I play way too many games to deal with dual booting non stop
static pilot
right now I'm just dual booting windows for games
serene bolt
but I use linux on everything else that isn't my desktop, like laptop etc