mineplex uses Spigot actually
#general
twin lagoon
with a protocol translation layer
@cold lake could probably tell you more since he's the lead developer for Mineplex bedrock
fallen oracle
Damn, exposing him.
pastel pivot
Oh cool, didn't think thats possible.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/GeyserMC/Geyser -- GeyserMC/Geyser: A bridge/proxy allowing you to connect ......: "Geyser is a bridge between Minecraft: Bedrock Edition and Minecraft: Java Edition, closing the gap from those wanting to play true cross-platform...."
golden gust
best public "solution" is gonna be stuff such as proxies like gyser, or, things like nukkit
cold lake
correct, we just use a proxy translation layer
pastel pivot
Thanks for the info 👍
cold lake
anything that is public will need a lot of work to be usable in production
pastel pivot
Really interesting stuff actually.
cold lake
including geyser
if you want to know anything else, feel free to tag me or message me
Hive are using their own completely custom server software, InPVP / Mineville are using a fork of MiNET which is public software written in C#, CubeCraft are probably using a translation layer between Spigot, and Lifeboat are using Steadfast, which is a public fork of PocketMine, it's a server written in PHP @pastel pivot
worn ember
you'd think they'd know doors by now
pulsar fox
it's a server written in PHP
excuse me
worn ember
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.pocketmine.net/ -- Get PocketMine-MP: "Download and replace the PocketMine-MP.phar file on an existing PocketMine-MP installation. You can get it installing the stable version."
winter stirrup
Every Bedrock edition server software sucks imo.
There isn't a single one that is mostly fully featured.
Most of them don't even have basic entity support yet 
nimble fog
that why java>bedrock
latent valve
Bedroxk have f ton of ezploit afaik xD
pastel pivot
@cold lake Thank you very much. That answers everything I wanted to know and more. 👍
peak dirge
And to add some fun, Mineteria is using a private fork of ProtocolSupport with PE support
Don't worry, we also worked ViaVersion to make it less awful 🙂
unkempt drift
who made them? aikar
glad shell
yes
void void
<hi>
unkempt drift
WOW, impersonating an Admin...
void void
imma ban u
hazy veldt
mineplex uses Spigot actually
Is bedrock really that bad?
golden gust
Bedrock just has no stable "mod" platform
being a native exe also makes that whole viability much more of a pain
HyperVerse 
minor badge
you should be able to afaik?
worn ember
hmm maybe cuz theres no references to it yet?
ah there we go, apparently thats the case
minor badge
usually you would want to trigger the code of your breakpoints for it to break yes
worn ember
fallen oracle
Have people always spoken out so much against dupe stuff and whatnot? I feel like I've never seen this much controversy until 1.16.
void void
looks like darkeye is coding rtp
lol i already created mine and takes the world border into account
serene bolt
I feel like it's probably just because more and more people are using paper for performance reasons, they want fast vanilla and don't realize it comes with some changes. Paper isn't "fast vanilla" but the configuration options make it worse imo because then people want configs for everything and point towards the existing one as "but this one has it!! so why not this one?!?!"
potent fossil
?
void void
im the beginning user
potent fossil
um ok
kindred storm
what about the middle user?
potent fossil
why is your name prefixed Admin
kindred storm
a.k.a the means user
void void
cause
potent fossil
13 messages in and have already contracted cancer
void void
now its fat admin
potent fossil
going to palliative care now, bye
raven siren
hello guys. is there any plugin that will force chunk loading without any players online on the server ?
raven siren
where could i get it ? link would be awesome
void void
so i guess that
Allows you to mark a single chunk.
keepchunks.keepchunk```has cmd
raven siren
i got keepchunks but it is not working. i got my chunk force-loading but my automatic farms arent doing anything if there is nobody on the server
void void
that chances are that ur probably not doing something right
cause the plugin has been tested on 1.16
olive marlin
Doesn't vanilla have now a command for force loading chunks?
unreal quarry
they fixed the latest commit design \o/
now it shows more of the commit message instead of just the hash
olive marlin
azure flower
I tried that once and found I had 8 completely random chunks forceloaded
Like 6 of them were in the middle of the ocean with nothing there
raven siren
oh wait, maybe chunkmaster is messing with my KeepChunks
void void
are you sure u r getting the correct x z and values
golden gust
if it's using force load tickets which am pretty sure one of them was
void void
could check with F3
olive marlin
Double check if keepchunk uses chunk or block coordinate.
blazing nebula
once you check instanceof I wish java would just let you use a variable as that type without having to come up with a new variable name or casting each time ;( it would only have to be for syntax, bytecode could just add the casts
rose lion
Yas
blazing nebula
whats the Kotlin solution to it
rose lion
Smart casting,
if (entity !is Pig) return
// entity here is now a Pig type variable
smart casting in kotlin is seriously OP
ornate spindle
idk how I feel about that after being so used to if (!(entity instanceof Pig)) return;
golden gust
!instance would be awesome
Instead, we just have kotlin
huggles kotlin
Btw, I use kotlin
rose lion
Java 15 is trying to help with it
if (entity instanceof Pig pig)
worn ember
do you guys comment the commit that fixes an issue? Or do you comment the issue on the commit?
ornate spindle
I used kotlin for a bit, but my small brain couldn't handle it
rose lion
Imagine having NPE
serene bolt
!!
rose lion
never!
serene bolt
I still use java for any public projects though because if not everyone just bitches about it being kotlin and you'll lose a ton of potential contributors because people won't be familiar with it
blazing nebula
why would java make you come up with a new variable name though
why cant we just use the old one
and compiler could add casts later
azure flower
There is a minimum level of verbosity that must be adhered to at all times
rose lion
Yeah, which is pretty sad
I got so used to Kotlin though
I keep doing things like val soemthing = and then realizing i need to put the type first
serene bolt
yup lol
abusing val and var everywhere makes going back to java kinda annoying sometimes
tired heath
Well a question about your opinion: I just implemented a quick weapon switch button in my Open Arena (Quake) remake. It acts like in CSGO, if you press it, it will switch between last weapon in hand and the actual one. So you could easily switch rail and rocket for example. I can bind it on either the "f" or "q" buton. Would you rather have this on "q" like in other games and since it is easy to reach, or on "f" cause the vanilla offhand in Minecraft uses f?
unreal quarry
why not let the user decide?
tired heath
I need the other button for a taunt "sound", so you would recommend a GUI where players could change it
Am I right
I mean the user could still switch it in the client itself
void void
i'd put f, feels easier to reach
tired heath
Yeah, I think I will keep it on f for now
minor badge
id do neither, really annoying feature when theres the 1 & 2 buttons
tired heath
But you will have 8 or 9 weapon types inclunding Gauntlet
minor badge
oh god
serene bolt
lmao my same reaction
tired heath
I mean, is "quake"
bleak urchin
"Buy our smartwatches for that!"
golden gust
a phone with a heart rate sensor, sounds like a bit of a novelty vs something actually being useful through the day
and, yea, ^ gotta sell the watches somehow
i kinda wanna get the new GT 2
well, "new"
serene bolt
yeah my s8 has one and I've never used it a single time, ever
worn ember
i gotta monitor my heart rate for when i get roasted on paper's discord
stiff yarrow
Apple Watch is the only apple product that doesn’t speak to me currently
bleak urchin
I bought a milanese loop for the Gear Sport I have
Much better than the silicone one it came with
golden gust
I got a metal strap for my watch, sorta one of those coated "looks like an actual watch strap" ones
worn ember
golden gust
i find that the silicone one is just horrific for getting the right size, is basically falling apart near where it attaches to the watch, and fuck silicone straps in summer
void void
latent valve
void void
hello new person
potent fossil
AMA? What would I want to ask you?
You're irrelevant. We saw it, got rid of it, and then moved on.
void void
what does doxxed mean?
potent fossil
Not interested, thanks.
void void
hm
potent fossil
I wonder what it's like to have such inflated self importance.
Doxxed means "Docs", like...they put out the documents on you.
worn ember
hu?
void void
inflated
worn ember
inflate me daddy 
void void
im gonna deflate like a balloon
unkempt drift
did you get promoted? or demoted?
idk where FatAdmin falls in relation to Admin
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) my M&Ms sank but the Ms stayed behind : mildlyinteresting - 99 comments, 4,718 points - DorothyDrawz, 3h ago
unkempt drift
if you are talking about who I think you are talking about, its probably being addressed.
serene bolt
probably a project dev would be ideal
unkempt drift
well I mean its in the message history here
potent fossil
i dont know the actual process for that tbh
unkempt drift
is it wiz?
potent fossil
would be nice to have it defined
worn ember
if its about wiz its being dealt with lol
void void
he looked at message and was like: fuck this im out
unkempt drift
yeah, bit of a incident earlier today
void void
hm what happened?
potent fossil
someone doxxed wiz
void void
oh no
potent fossil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
serene bolt
I eat chimichangas like 3 times a week for lunch, they're so good
potent fossil
its being handled
potent fossil
yea pure, i dont think it is humanly possible for me to ever tire of these
serene bolt
it's just such a good mix of everything that's tasty
potent fossil
It's for notable people.
serene bolt
because I prefer eating on my lap
potent fossil
i dont know what pure is notable for tho 
void void
pretty sure she mod on spigot forums
potent fossil
she
void void
pretty sure
serene bolt
Spigot moderators, trash
void void
ACCESS ACQUIRED
void void
MD5 ONLY DEV 
mighty storm
serene bolt
RIP thinkofdeath
mighty storm
what happened to them
serene bolt
quit to go to better things, supposedly working on hytale now
potent fossil
I never talked to think except once after he told me not to spam his channel when I was like 14
(that was 8 years ago)
wait fuck
9
holy shit, im getting old
serene bolt
yeah lol I feel the same
limber knotBOT
Was a cool dude, for a while he was active in the rust gamedev community, he was making some kind of college life simulator or something
Think he ended up open sourcing it when he gave up on it, haven't heard from him since
serene bolt
I remember when people use to refer to me as "the minecraft forum mod" or "the bukkit dev mod" and then I realize I've been a spigot mod for infinite more years than the last two combined
potent fossil
more lazy content creation, what's new
serene bolt
lmao
potent fossil
not as lazy as the dude who just sits there straight face watching military videos
and then posts it on YT
serene bolt
reaction content 
potent fossil
look. his face never changes. the only thing that changes is what he's watching. https://i.imgur.com/7TH2XpB.png
potent fossil
yea it's stupid lmao
serene bolt
that reminds me of this, but at least LTT switches it up a bit here and there
potent fossil
void void
the person in the video is from australia
sharp sentinel
I mean that's just their brand
They want people to recognise it's an LTT video from the thumbnail
potent fossil
new emoji tbh https://i.imgur.com/Rz0kMnx.png
serene bolt
talking more about the surprise / goofy face that most youtubers do in their thumbnails, not the overall layout / format
worn ember
smh how is this balanced, they have 1 party of 2 and a party of 3 and we get one party of 2 
smh my head
warm anchor
For a second I thought I was in Dota discord lol
celest coyote
Not minecraft pls ban
worn ember
;oo
gentle nest
is there a way to check if a chunk is somehow bloated or sth
it takes waaay too long to load
and it's nothing big or serious
I think it's sth related to the names?
it shouldn't have
probably sth with viaversion
hmm
do you know which plugin?
oh yeah
"your plugin"
but hoow do you get from support 1.15 to 1.8
so how did you get in the server without viaversion xd
what's your ign
hm
if you actually get in the server then it isn't from your name
hazy veldt
1.8 is unsupported by almost everything.
magic river
Hey, github is running a new preview that fixes the main issue people had with the new design
static badge
cunning raft
thank god
waxen panther
Yay.
cunning raft
i don't give a fuck about the hash over the message
unkempt drift
you don't commit the hash/message pair to memory?
wow
just gotta look at the hash and KNOW what the message is
cunning raft
i decode sha-1 hashes in my brain
unkempt drift
haven't mastered that yet
magic river
Bleh, more people doxing folks
vagrant niche
Som1 dox me :(
waxen panther
ok x
vagrant niche
Yay
lone pulsar
supposedly, if I pregen the nether world on 1.16.1 it won't spawn the new mob in 1.16.2 is that right?
hollow plaza
Yes that won't spawn the brutes because they only spawn on stucture generation
bleak urchin
It's the Note 7 all over again https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a33235534/harbor-freight-replacement-jack-stands-recalled/
limber knotBOT
github introduces feature that was removed from last feature
cosmic raft
@magic river what issue did they "fix"?
golden gust
shows the commit message instead of just the hash
upper flicker
idk why they shipped it like that
golden gust
upper flicker
that new design seemed to go from “hey try it out” to “alright lets go” real fast
golden gust
tired heath
serene bolt
wow who would have thought people prefer reading a message over a commit hash
cunning raft
designers who aren't developers
tired heath
serene bolt
"all of our QA testers loved it!"
potent fossil
this new change was small but infinitely improved the UI
like, my god
what an oversight
unkempt drift
hey, at least they fixed it 🙂
potent fossil
im in the school of thought of... why the fuk did u change it at all
it was perfect
serene bolt
does a website redesign but still no native dark theme on a site oriented around developers 🤔
potent fossil
shell vine
stiff yarrow
I for one hope it was a horrible coding error instead of an intentional design choice
hazy veldt
Another case of Microsoft bad
worn ember
its muffin time
potent fossil
fuk u
thick rose
Does anyone know any good monitoring/stats plugins for system admins? I'd like to monitor player's ping as well as the server's performance, if I could get that down to per plugin that would be stunning.
worn ember
golden gust
timings will let you see how long stuff is taking
no real way for plugins to pull out how long plugins are taking, etc
theres also a grafana setup that you can use for a dashboard thing, or plugins like plan for stats
thick rose
if you modified paper you could make it take the times of the plugins that have registered events, when it executes them.
not sure about making a plugin do that for others though
thick rose
Oh my bad.
Sorry I'm confused, if timings does that, what did you mean by:
no real way for plugins to pull out how long plugins are taking
golden gust
plugins can't really pull out that info
paper does have a built in mechanism, however
worn ember
Wait. Kanye is running for president? Bruh
worn ember
Aren't you supposed to be idk. Qualified for that?
worn ember
Well at least he knows the economy
mighty storm
i think all you need to be is over 35 and a citizen
worn ember
Tf does Kanye know 
Well now as good as any time ig. No opposition anyway. I don't think Trump will get a second term
And Biden. Idk maybe
mighty storm
paper but epic
tiny viper
epic website
nocturne agate
Is there a way to turn all villager into something less laggy like command block
sharp sentinel
You want to turn villagers into command blocks?
nocturne agate
Idk something less laggy?
slate verge
Is safe to change the maximum height of blocks world?
nocturne agate
Ask paper help
mighty storm
MUCH better commit layout
golden gust
.classpath
mighty storm
(compared to)
HEY
what even are .classpath and .project lol
do I even need them if I use intelliJ?
tiny viper
they could be files generated by your IDE?
mighty storm
considering they havent been touched since the initial commit,
tiny viper
if you dont want them in the git repo add them to your gitignore file
mighty storm
oh idrc, cat made a comment on it so
tiny viper
it probably is IDE stuff then
honestly just to be safe you may want to gitignore them
idk if they might have any details about your PC or anything like that
mighty storm
nah nothing really critical that i see
tiny viper
noice
slim nymph
mighty storm
aikar while you're here
what regex did you use for ignoring [ci-skip] commits and does it actually work now
slim nymph
nope
mighty storm
the darn ci has a mind of its own evidently
i tested it in regexr and it worked fine!
slim nymph
\s*\[(CI-?)?(SKIP|skip)\s*\].*
mighty storm
alright imma run a test project to see if i can figure this out
slim nymph
gonna make it .*\[CI-SKIP\].*
vagrant niche
oh my god regex
hollow plaza
regex is useful
mighty storm
wait
.*\[maven-release-plugin\].*
The example above illustrates that if only revisions with "[maven-release-plugin]" message in first comment line have been committed to the SCM a build will not occur.
comment line as in, summary, or description
slim nymph
summary
vernal bone
Hello!
prime coral
vernal bone
Does anyone has a recommented hosting provider, I'm looking for vpsses, decated servers to host my mc server/website/discord bots on.
I need high Ghz cores, atleast 16GB of ram, and unlimited bandwitch
vagrant niche
OVH
mighty storm
i forgot how annoying and tedious setting up the hook is
mighty storm
meoww
serene bolt
meow~
vagrant niche
@everyone test
limber knotBOT
at-everyone at-here @fierce ibex <@&289587909051416579> ignore me just doing QA
vagrant niche
k good
limber knotBOT
obviously
vernal bone
Hm, this dedi would be fine for 100+ players and 3 websites and multiple dc bots right? 
hollow plaza
Don't know about the cpu but the rest is fine
vagrant niche
👌
potent harness
HDD
no probably not
potent fossil
^
@vernal bone hope you didnt buy that because you're gonna be real sad you didn't get an SSD.
vernal bone
I didn't bought any yet.
potent fossil
SSD is required for a good experience.
potent fossil
6700K is kinda old but not bad. That's my current PC
vernal bone
I'll work with that, thank you!
sharp sentinel
I wouldn’t say recent stuff has improved enough in the areas an MC server needs to make that a dealbreaker
Wut
potent fossil
you think it's the sound, and not...idk...
the redstone?
Is that a server log, or client log
Um
Ok
olive marlin
Remember that, depending on where you are, network is also important.
vagrant niche
It's ur best option
potent fossil
if this is a brand new server you wont be pushing 100 players right off the bat...
lmao.
olive marlin
We switched from hetzner to ovh, despite getting worse hardware, cause we were limited by awful network.
neat smelt
what was so bad about the network bloodstone?
olive marlin
We have people from all around the world. From USA, through Europe, to Japan. And Hetzner hated Americans, was dropping their packets constantly.
They literally got better connection when using a VPN to play...
vernal bone
I'm in europe
olive marlin
Hetzner is European - and if you only have Europe in mind - it should be fine.
neat smelt
couldnt you just get a cheap ovh vps and use it as a proxy?
vernal bone
Allright, thank you!
olive marlin
I probably could. But we switched and we are happy, for now.
neat smelt
alright thanks
ovh also has is issues, but at least not hardware / network related
also wtf are you talkint about bad hardware at hetzner?
vernal bone
Okay, I decidied to buy a Rapsberry Pi 4 1GB, shoud be fine right?
vagrant niche
Yes
neat smelt
fine for what?
potent fossil
vernal bone
100 players a archy server
vernal bone
potent fossil
.kill Simon.
limber knotBOT
rips off Simon.'s limbs and leaves them to die.
potent fossil
Thank you officer.
vernal bone
potent fossil
uh
neat smelt
vagrant niche
vernal bone
(i didn't bought the pi, it was a joke in case someone does't got it)
vagrant niche
vernal bone
What hardvare does 2b2t runs on? 🤔
Yes, but there are 1000+ players online almost 24/7 
Every thime I check the server in the multiplayer list, the player count is always 1000+....People really want to play there, even wait 48+ hours in a queue
mighty storm
first build of a new project failed!!! in the club again yo
sharp sentinel
how tf is 2b2t always so popular
vestal jasper
Agreed with pop.
Everyone knows 2b2t, you don't even need to google to find it.
So people flock to it.
void void
2b2t queue bupass now exist
No more, than 15 minutes wait
But it not popylar, and developer of this bupass can't give it anyone
potent fossil
uh yeah.
you donate.
there is a program to queue for you, but that's it. you aren't "bypassing" their shit unless you donate.
sharp sentinel
How much is the bypass?
potent fossil
$20 afaik
sharp sentinel
Yeah that's worth it to bypass a 48 hour queue lol
sharp sentinel
Similar to many MMOs, if you play it a lot it's defs worth it IMO
potent fossil
yea
also its hardly 48 hrs
you might wait like...5 hours at peak time
usually 45 mins to 2 hrs
idk where this 48 hr number comes from
but they're stupid
sharp sentinel
I mean to 12 year old kids who may be given an hour to play games a day, that's pretty major
nocturne agate
Wow guess I am weird then
potent fossil
Yeah, if you're part of it, then you are
nocturne agate
I alway thought i was cool for using hacks and ruining other ppl’s builds
potent fossil
ok
nocturne agate
And waiting 3 days queue
young silo
In linux The bash (.sh) How can I make it to restart when stop server like .bat in window ?
potent fossil
#!/bin/bash
while true; do
java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -jar jarfile.jar
echo "Server stopped, waiting 5 seconds..."
sleep 5
done
something like that
quasi valley
the last commit message is finally back https://i.imgur.com/01RaiAh.png 
(feature preview)
potent fossil
ye we were talkin about that earlier
fuckin GH is rarted for removing it in the first place is the general consensus
quasi valley
I can agree with that, lol
young silo
In putty, How can i make it to show all line in cmd, It's disappear in the top and show just little line in the bottom.
I'm sorry, I'm not good in english.
@potent fossil Not working.
It's show this message >> Syntax error: "done" unexpected (expecting "do") <<
young silo
What command to run the .sh that you use ?
potent fossil
you should be able to just run the file.
i put it inside run.sh, and do ./run.sh
sharp sentinel
I have an almost identical script for running any java stuff
potent fossil
syntax error on done makes me feel like he just copied it directly into putty
the entire script
not into a file
young silo
@potent fossil If i wanto copy the script into a file, What should i do ?
potent fossil
Nevermind. You put it in a file called runtest.sh.
What did you paste? You probably pasted it incorrectly.
olive marlin
https://inviterick.com - a shame it supports only zoom
young silo
It's show this message: ' runtest.sh: Syntax error: "done" unexpected (expecting "do") '
young silo
Okay, I'll test it for now.
potent fossil
remove all that and repaste it
#!/bin/bash
while true; do
java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -jar jarfile.jar
echo "Server stopped, waiting 5 seconds..."
sleep 5
done
if you must
young silo
potent fossil
mhm
young silo
It's show
runtest.sh: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token done' runtest.sh: line 6: done'
potent fossil
sorry, i simply do not have the patience for this
someone else will come along and help you later
im going to bed
young silo
That's okay, Thank for you care.
quasi valley
gudbai
potent fossil
there is no issue with the script https://i.imgur.com/IGbZSeq.png
so this is entirely user error.
rugged frost
@young silo are you using: $ sh runtest.sh ?
young silo
Yes
rugged frost
try $ ./runtest.sh
or
$ bash runtest.sh
thatll fix it
($ chmod +x runtest.sh to make it executable)
potent fossil
minor badge
thats literally POSIX compatible shell
young silo
I run ' ./runtest.sh ' then It show this message.
bash: ./runtest.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
olive marlin
You're using windows new lines.
rugged frost
^M
olive marlin
Run dos2unix runtest.sh
young silo
@olive marlin Thank for you care, It's working.
but
When i use Ctrl + C
I still restart
How can i fix it ?
I want it restart only i /stop
olive marlin
What distro are you using?
young silo
Ubuntu
minor badge
add start -e after the shebang
olive marlin
You need to do /stop and then ctrl+c within 5 seconds of it printing that message.
(if you really want to stop)
rugged frost
@minor badge you mean set -e ?
rugged frost
:]
olive marlin
Or just add -e to the shebang
But that'll cause the server not to restart, if it crashes.
young silo
@olive marlin Thank for you care, It's working well!
spark ridge
plush vigil
Hey there, does anyone know a good auto rankup plugin that workes with LuckPerms.. its for a 1.16.1 Paper Java Server that I am working on
Please DM me if you have answers to this question, Thx
minor badge
wrong channel & nobody here does dm answers lol
olive marlin
Aw yes, quality bug reports.
https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-5962
minor badge
thanks rodrigo
vestal jasper
thanks rodrigo
viral hornet
thanks rodrigo
worn pasture
thanks larry
grand pewter
hahahahahahahaha
spice finch
tfw someone like this guy is wasting your time on resolving issue
wild ravine
Um... Does anyone know why the wither would drop nothing? I'm testing a killing chamber in a test world and even when I switch to survival mode and kill it, it drops nothing. No star, no XP, nothing.
Nevermind, I created a fresh world and then he dropped the things he was supposed to. There must be a cooldown or something?
young silo
In Intellij How can i open multiple projects in one window like eclipse, netbeans ?
void void
sanity: insane
wide chasm
You can't, just like Eclipse. You need to put your code in different modules if you want to open multiple of them at once.
young silo
Yes, I've do it. but It's not working well.
When i rename package in 1 module
the others module that has package name same will be changed too.
spice finch
WSL2 has really cheap performance for me.. anyone had this issue maybe?
after this command I cant enter enything
seems like its still executing
wild ravine
That's weird, it was a creative world and the only thing I changed was weather cycle and day cycle to false
twin lagoon
@spice finch
you're accessing an NTFS filesystem from within WSL
that causes extremely slow performance
spice finch
:/
twin lagoon
you want anything in WSL to be accessed in ~/, your home directory
or whatever is in your rootfs
so, copy over / git clone another paper repo in ~/
you should notice an immediate speedboost
spice finch
Nice, good to know
twin lagoon
also for intellij compatibility
and general knowhow
access wsl rootfs in windows explorer by going to
\\wsl$
then map a network drive, assign a drive letter as intellij will complain about slow indexing otherwise
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git is speedy as heck on my linux install 😎
spice finch
I'd use linux too if not these freaking games 😛
limber knotBOT
aayyy
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meet the magic of wine and VMs
spice finch
visible commit message?
limber knotBOT
ye
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what was changed
spice finch
also use dark reader plx
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ooh
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
am at work, I use light theme everything at work
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i use dark reader, looks great on github and every other page ive tried it on
limber knotBOT
to help separate between work and free time
neat smelt
dark reader works 95% of the time very well, can agree
minor badge
yet to find a page it doesnt work well on lol
neat smelt
and if something does not look that great, it can be turned off per domain
vernal moth
Bstats is one of those sites that looks meh with dark reader iirc
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ooh yeah bstats looks bad with it lol
limber knotBOT
using non english locales for anything tech
spice finch
u cant really change it afaik
spice finch
i think it takes lang from browser
there's no option in settings of plugin for changing language
neat smelt
another example where it dosnt work as expected is https://server.pro/
not that i reccomend that host, but it completly blacks out the wallpaper
spice finch
some sites are built really bad
thats why dr looks bad there
enable it on https://contabo.com
neat smelt
well what do you expect
a bad company with an even worse website
vernal moth
Twitter
Man
The replies
using an ISP provided router
The speedport thingies are so shitty
And riddled with security holes
red imp
about blazes... they aren't spawning in my world even if there is block under spawner
void void
@red imp
quasi valley
kinda sounds like "stand up, go in a circle 3 times, sit down again"
worn ember
Pretty sure they never worked in the overworld?
At least I could never get them to work
red imp
My players told me that they worked on another servers
so don't know
but the second thing is why is wither skeleton spawning only when there's block under spawner?
worn ember
Maybe they had plugins change spawn behavior?
red imp
so normally they won't spawn in overworld?
worn ember
Lemme confirm that to
red imp
so what's wrong for me?
worn ember
What about blazes?
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plugins probably, and #paper-help
red imp
maybe craftbook? About mobfarm manager I don't think so it's caused by it
worn ember
red imp
and paper and spigot.yml don't have these settings to stop spawning types of mobs, or have they?
The problem is that I have there players now so I wanted to try discover it faster
without removing plugins and turning maintenance due to this
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red imp
Ok 😅
twin lagoon
holy fuck why do you have so many plugins
worn ember
Why not
void void
because they probably have alot of money to spend for ram
worn ember
Ok boomer
red imp
Because I don't have issues 😅 with them
And I don't think it's really needed to use less plugins. It's survival server with many options
players can pick up way what interests them
void void
if i were me i would take all those plugins and create one chunky ass plugin that has everything from the plugins in it
and when you run /plugins all you see is 1 plugin
worn ember
Super omega fat jar
latent valve
void void
kek
wide chasm
Modularization for plugins is still nice
I'd also rather have a bunch of small plugins that do a task properly than one large plugin that tries to do everything.
twin lagoon
but muh cmi
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we had /plugins public and a player complained about us having 65 plugins when they're mostly just to follow unix philosophy :p
shell vine
u know whats really epic, when ppl say "wow shit server its unsecure you can see their plugins!"
spice finch
They're acting like it was some secret thing
worn ember
Yeah I'm gonna hack you using plugin exploits
spice finch
wide chasm
It's not like you can't figure out which plugins they're using just by playing on their server for an hour or so
void void
you can find out all the plugins instantly upon connection
worn ember
Lol
tropic phoenix
I have a lot of villagers
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no
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void void
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sure thing man
worn ember
Villager: "I don't have a good reputation"
Also villager: Guess i'll die
tropic phoenix
Quick question, is spigot more reliable than paper immediately following a release?
I'm thinking I'll set up Spigot now then move to paper in a week or two.
But new to this stuff so not sure if that is the right plan.
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usually paper follows suit a few days after spigot, and we tend to be pretty stable for whatever its worth even in the dev builds
tropic phoenix
Ok, for example are the villager issues also preset in Spigot?
Imo that's worth fixing haha, me and my friend's game plan pretty much depends on farming to trade for valuable items.
vestal jasper
Yeah from my experience, in the context of a server with a lot of players who like to abuse things
Villagers are a nightmare
I think week 2, players managed to crash mending's value from like $35,000 to $3,000 ingame
Just by abusing villager mechanics and having mending villagers that infinitely trade mending books for practically no price
olive marlin
@unreal quarry
c) Spamming or excessively sending messages, including repeating questions or links too frequently.
This is a reason for kick/ban. Haven't seen a kick/ban for someone asking a question once and then getting help. Can't see it in the rules either. Maybe they should be updated?
void void
villagers are just a bad dupe
tropic phoenix
What really gets abused in our server is keepinventory, I wish it would keep items but not xp
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our econ is diamond based and we just limited them to always being sold for diamonds in the villager gui
we can make you a plugin for that, Ben
unreal quarry
@olive marlin its the fucking official support channel where unsupported things are NOT supported..
its as simple as that
vestal jasper
Mine was essx eco, but mending books became so common and available that they didn't have a whole lot of value
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unsupported only means if it breaks, we won't care, and you shouldn't expect answers
olive marlin
That's how I felt the "unsupported config" was aimed at, when reading what Aikar and others wrote.
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for that same reason, PRs to fix it (read: introduce dupes) are not welcome either
tropic phoenix
Quick question, the villager bugs are only in paper at the moment, not spigot?
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one of them is in spigot
tropic phoenix
Oh ok thanks
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the disappearing one that is
tropic phoenix
I figure I might just wait a little while then
You reckon they will be fixed within a week?
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after thats merged, you should be fine to play a while, but your villagers may not work
probably
tropic phoenix
Nice
unreal quarry
unsupported only means if it breaks, we won't care, and you shouldn't expect answers
@minor badge also means if you want to use it you're on your own.. same thing as trying to install 1.8, its completely unsupported.. doesnt mean we'll help you get 1.8 setup but not help if things break. smfh
azure flower
Mine was essx eco, but mending books became so common and available that they didn't have a whole lot of value
I had this problem as well, mending ended up dirt cheap and super common. I'm trying to avoid that this time by changing the high tier book trades to use diamonds instead of emeralds, using this plugin https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/custom-villager-modifications.78329/
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there is no official support for 1.8 yes, as with the settings; if someone feels like it, theyre free to answer them with 1.8 & tnt dupe setup and support, but issues about it will be closed and prs are not welcome
unreal quarry
and support in the support channels will be shut down about it
worn ember
generating something from nothing will always tank the economy, or trading less valuables for more valuables
minor badge
not necessarily; just ignore it if you dont want to support them, or tell them its unsupported and leave it at that
unreal quarry
there has to be a line, and thats where the line has always been
if i was still mod i would have kicked him and prof
same as we've done in the past
worn ember
but ur not 
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and i cant say that wouldnt have been your privilege, but it's still not necessary to tell someone off when theyre receiving help from someone else
its not your time being wasted, so no need to really interfere
kindred storm
unless it's negatively affecting the quality of the channel for users of up-to-date software, i see no reason to get worked up over it
olive marlin
I mean, Billy wasted time telling someone off repeatedly ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unreal quarry
the line is there to not be crossed because if someone else sees someone receiving support for an unsupported thing then they'll expect support for unsupported things too
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and neither received official support; its also not your problem if that person wanting support pesters prof about his 1.4.2 server
kindred storm
is there a concept of "official support"?
worn ember
@olive marlin pl0x give 1.2.5 support me plugin no werk
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github & the men in blue is my take on it, A248
olive marlin
Sorry Billy that we haven't moved from official support channel like #paper-help , to some general channel linke #general or DMs.
kindred storm
i see
unreal quarry
thats all i was asking for, prof. DMs would have been perfect for that, which from the looks of it luke did that
we gotta keep a standard in the help channels
olive marlin
Yeah. I see it as - if project developers would help with it - it's supported. If they wouldn't - it's not supported. But support != help.
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i'm sure we all can remember to hint people towards dms for such support in the future, no? :D
worn ember
imo if someone wants to help thats fine, just that people should not expect us to care about outdated versions
olive marlin
Will try to do that next time Billy. But often it just splits the conversation -what I said in DMs, someone else might repeat in help channel, thinking it's not answered.
unreal quarry
its like someone taking their honda to a chevy dealer wanting support, but chevy doesnt work on hondas and tells them to go elsewhere. chevy isn;t going to allow a random customer to just come in "i'll help, lets get your honda up here in bay #4 so i can take a look"
you can help them all you want, just not in the official help channels
😉
kindred storm
in my opinion, even if you don't want them in #paper-help , using general should be fine
general is used for a lot of things, so it should not be an issue
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We can leave a Please DM me for help or something and that'll probably be enough
worn ember
@unreal quarry what if you have a 50 year old jhon deer you bought there 35 years ago 
unreal quarry
TIL striders walk on top of the lava... i thought they swam in it 😮
i'm making them wasd controlable 😛
void void
so striders are jesus
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use a warped fungus on a stick and a saddle :p
worn ember
reverse jesus
neat smelt
they also walk on other mobs
unreal quarry
That's no fun tho, proxi ^_^
latent valve
Pegasus xD
unreal quarry
few months back someone was making flying horses in a plugin, too. i helped them get sorted out. idk what ever happened to that
lofty root
hi did the bedrock remove glitch got fixed with paperspigot?
limber knotBOT
@lofty root [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
worn pasture
put some clothes on man
lofty root
o tnx 🙂
limber knotBOT
but yes, it's fixed
vernal moth
hangar when?
latent valve
remove toggleable config when?
quasi valley
with a stream plz 
unreal quarry
put some clothes on man
@worn pasture thats my business suit
worn pasture
molten fable
Pls. give me a hint! I have 4 servers almost identical but on my mcmmo server gamers can't drink milk?!
cedar spade
hangar wen
worn pasture
@molten fable do you have luckperms
molten fable
yes!
vernal moth
way ahead of you guys 😄
worn pasture
try verbose mode
cedar spade
still gotta do it
molten fable
and on sql
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@vernal moth hongar wen
molten fable
okay
vernal moth
gimme 10 minutes
molten fable
becouse it works if i give my admin op ...odd btw..
worn pasture
well yes, because ops have all perms usually
use verbose mode it will tell you what is up
hopefully
molten fable
It didn't...
gleaming rivet
which is better, Ubuntu 1804 vs 2004 in terms of performance?
worn pasture
did you make the players drink milk while verbose was active?
gleaming rivet
no difference, lol
But they said it had better performance? Just not for mc servers or?
void void
just use latest, no reason not to
gleaming rivet
Well I'm on 1804 currently, I don't wanna move for no reason
waxen panther
What are you expecting lol
umbral parrot
void void
cause maybe tunite da creepa steel our staff again
noble tundra
how do i join the general voice chat?
wide chasm
@viral kettle As a heads up, I changed your nickname, since we don't allow hard to read user names such as the one you had previously.
noble tundra
bruh
austere ivy
I thought I was in a different discord and I must’ve accidentally switched over here and I got so confused when I saw stef’s name. I was like “stef I didn’t know you were mod on the fl studio discord..”
wide chasm
I'm a mod everywhere. It's part of my world domination plan.
steel pulsar
once a mod always a mod
actually a fact of the internet, if you've ever been a forum moderator once, you'll be a forum moderator again
serene bolt
actually a fact of the internet, if you've ever been a forum moderator once, you'll be a forum moderator again
too true
steel pulsar
thge law of the unpaid janitor
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Hey Stef, you don't mind fixing that name, whatever it's supposed to read?
@wide chasm shitty ad
void void
advertising 
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heck i was just a second too late
void void
haha
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sorry for ping stef :(
wide chasm
I don't mind pings 🙂
finite wave
void void
stefs kool
mental meadow
actually a fact of the internet, if you've ever been a forum moderator once, you'll be a forum moderator again
I feel attacked
void void
once a mod, always a mod
mental meadow
latent valve
quasi valley
- should be; I think I shouldn't be on Facebook*
steel pulsar
it's a mere fact, it's like physics or gravity
mental meadow
Yeah, it's true, that's why I feel attacked 🤣🙃
vernal moth
steel pulsar
are you making youtube 2
serene bolt
wow a sequel already, I didn't even get to see the first!
void void
damn
quasi valley
it had all the things
waxen panther
Renovate sends like 10000 emails holy shit
serene bolt
WhiteSource
🤔
waxen panther
They own it
brave lichen
Any good Rtp plugin that drops player from the sky so I can use it with voidspawn?
void void
i doubt one exists
you would probably have to modify it urself
there are plenty of rtp plugins that rtp the player
but not from the sky
brave lichen
Ok thanks
topaz heath
I need a help:
What anti-cheat plugin do you recommend for 1.15.2 survival server? (I know this server is just for tuinity, but I want to know a opinion of everybody).
For now I'm using Spartan, but I for me Spartan is too demanding.
void void
AAC and a good config
olive marlin
AAC? Updated NCP?
void void
eh NCP does work, but its a buggy one
topaz heath
Where can I find good config for AAC?
limber knotBOT
NCP works just fine for survival
fallen oracle
Geri, can you paste the ID?
void void
last time i checked doesn't it have issues with beds?
olive marlin
@tawdry holly ^^
tawdry holly
96328387823431680
void void
hm
quasi valley
Dedicated servers can now kick clients that consistently send too many packets within a second
Packet limiter 👀
bleak urchin
Custom biomes 
void void
when
topaz heath
When Mojang want to disable option in client for save "dismiss" while prompt for install resource pack and add custom prompt message?
wide chasm
Minecraft 1.8: "This is the source code for Minecraft all in Java"
Minecraft 1.17: "This is the source code for Minecraft: 1 Java file, 374 JSON files"
void void
wtf is custom biome data packs
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cooler biomes
fallen oracle
EWG in data packs here we come.
wide chasm
Sounds like a feature that will be halfbaked for the upcoming 5 releases, but let's hope not.
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you know that will happen glare
fallen oracle
Ofc (:
vernal moth
EWG dev will hate this snapshot
wide chasm
sell the datapack for 40 dollars
vernal moth
no because of the internal changes
spice finch
Where can I find good config for AAC?
Buying configs for antycheats is a bit dumb, cheat creator could always buy this config and just lower the values so it's not detectable
or even user
kindred storm
buying configs in general is quite dumb
spice finch
configs are individual thing imo
kindred storm
but i mean, if you want to spend a lot of money to avoid a couple minutes of work, be my guest
twin lagoon
celebrimbor has paid AAC configs
olive marlin
^^
spice finch
We used to use bought AAC config, suprisingly, it didnt work well 
limber knotBOT
or, you know, donate to open source authors, lmao
void void
hm i haven't tested verus yet
limber knotBOT
you know why it isn't as good?
because people don't support it 👀
just stop supporting proprietary shit
twin lagoon
no
void void
never!!!
twin lagoon
nocheatplus has never and will never be as good as proprietary solutions lol
limber knotBOT
not with that attitude
void void
haha
twin lagoon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hazy veldt
NoCheatPlus isn't getting updated anymore so of course anything can beat it