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worn ember
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shush

sharp sentinel
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Lmao found another spigot bug

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This isn't even the API this time

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Just gameplay. If a record plays for ~20 seconds, breaking the jukebox won't stop the audio playing

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Tested on singleplayer, and it's fine

worn ember
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the music is forever

cedar spade
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e n d l e s s m u s i c

sharp sentinel
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Idk why but I feel like working on CraftBook is cursed

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Every single thing I try to do causes me to hit a spigot bug

cedar spade
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||Try working on EssentialsX||

mental meadow
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Try working on FAWE lol

sharp sentinel
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I assume FAWE just bypasses Spigot tho like WorldEdit does?

cedar spade
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||(we don't run into Spigot bugs often, Essentials was just a mess by the time we inherited it)||

sharp sentinel
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There are Mojang code oddities, but nothing in my experience has ever been as painful as how buggy half of the Spigot API is

mental meadow
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Yes, but it' still fun

cedar spade
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oh except that time Spigot introduced a dupe bug mid-version and we had to rush out an emergency release because dupe bugs are intended behaviour nowadays

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iirc Bukkit's ban list API doesn't work properly

worn ember
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i fail to see the issue?

void void
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smh i don't understand why people get mad about public dupes getting patched

cedar spade
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Last I checked I think it still relied on usernames for player bans and didn't support IPv6 bans at all

heady spear
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i love when u update intellij plugins and the plugin randomly overwrites your appearance settings

quasi valley
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or resets the font to that horrible default again

heady spear
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updating shit shouldn't change your settings, that's just bs .-. jetbrains can suck my nuts

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dibs!

heady spear
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ur not jetbrains

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dibs anyways!

heady spear
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hello am being sexually harassed by this random contributor

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heck

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would it work if i got a job at jetbrains

heady spear
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possibly

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hmm

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how to learn czech in like 2 weeks

void void
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czech is funny

latent valve
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citywu Dum

void void
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at least he has an emoji

heady spear
latent valve
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@twin lagoon dont waste your time lol

twin lagoon
worn ember
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how does one make jenkins artifacts public? It keeps forcing me to log in PepeHands

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you gotta give them some general read permission, dont remember which

worn ember
quasi valley
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authorisatie

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wat

left swift
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Oh god edok is a furry now

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Its spreading

worn ember
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yeah it translates random words

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and doesnt for others

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its big brain stuff

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and the translations suck too

twin lagoon
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change your locale then

sharp sentinel
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My guesses:

10% chance it gets merged, 40% chance md does it himself, 50% chance md says he'll do it himself but never does

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quasi valley
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I can maybe only see him wanting the magic effect id held somewhere, but otherwise big oof if such a small thing is not merged sooner or later thinking_eyes

worn ember
sharp sentinel
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Wait Spigot's Stash instance isn't universally accessible?

quasi valley
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prs aren't

sharp sentinel
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Yikes there are so many ignored PRs there

quasi valley
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

worn ember
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what does max-world-size do in server.properties?

sharp sentinel
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Doesn't that handle the vanilla world border?

worn ember
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oh

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what does it use as center point then?

sharp sentinel
worn ember
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i mean, if you just give a size theres no x or z

sharp sentinel
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The wiki covers that, yes

worn ember
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mc wb is weird

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is there a /drama command in essentialsx yet?

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why is there no suggestDrama method in paperlib yet

left swift
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The drama command should delete your world

void void
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well that would cause drama

unreal quarry
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mc wb is weird
How so?

left swift
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Cuz he doesn't understand it

void void
worn ember
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you can get stuck in a death loop for example lol

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if you set your spawnpoint outside the wb and damage is on you just die indefinitly lul

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also whats the point of the wb if you can still tp outside of it

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and you can still even place liquids

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its just implemented bad imo

left swift
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Sounds like if ur having those problems u got a bad owner

worn ember
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i dont play on any servers

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just experienced it first hand when messing with it

left swift
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Why would you want to tp somewhere out of the world border u set

worn ember
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if you change the radius of the wb and your spawn happens to fall outside of it

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thats how it happend to me

left swift
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Most people dont change it after they set it up so it's more of a user problem imo

worn ember
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well i still dont think you should be able to tp outside of it with ender pearls

unreal quarry
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Mojang agrees. That's why they damage you for going there

void void
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isn't it like beyond 6 blocks you get damaged or smthin

unreal quarry
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It's a configurable range

olive marlin
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Unless you are in creative.

worn ember
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just make the worldborder shrink a few blocks every day until eventually everyone dies

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genocide

left swift
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Just like irl

void void
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so you have to go to the world border on day 1

unreal quarry
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Sounds like hatin just to be hatin now, ded. smh

worn ember
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nah i'm just referencing battle royal games now

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hating on wb was so 5 minutes ago

left swift
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What's next

worn ember
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checks the list

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well i think its funny how

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jkjk

left swift
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Pineapples

worn ember
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i like how the jenkins docs explain how to use something and how to set it up but it doesnt explain anywhere what the feature actually is lol

olive marlin
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Ded, you'll love working with shared libraries in jenkins. It says what it is - but the documentation links are mostly dead. And only decent source of information is their unlisted YouTube video from a few years ago.

void void
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is it just me or is jenkins ded's bane the past few days

worn ember
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i only started yesterday xD

left swift
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Seems most things might be his bane

worn ember
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lots of things get to me with smoll brain

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ssl is next on the list

olive marlin
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In this session, I’ll talk about the different ways to incorporate shared code into your pipeline, including writing and using your own shared libraries, defining external global variables, pulling in code to use inline, internal and external libraries and extending the DSL.

▶ Play video
worn ember
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i'll add it to my watch later

obsidian ridge
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hey guys, just a quick question. How stable are the latest builds of paper for 1.16? Just want to use a couple of plugins on a basically vanilla world but want to make sure it is at least somewhat stable before I do that

olive marlin
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Just watch out. Code is executed on master, and it's quite easy, especially with shared pipelines, to crash it xD

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@obsidian ridge check bstats - how many people are using it already :)

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I think most are still on 1.15.

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But we switched last weekend to 1.16

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Haven't had any major issues.

worn ember
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i havent had any issues with 1.16.1 so far

olive marlin
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Though there's a few known small bugs.

obsidian ridge
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Nice, I think I'll upgrade to it

void void
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how do i stop a large tnt explosion

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remove the tnt

unreal quarry
left swift
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Try offsetting it with a small TNT explosion

void void
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what does that mean

worn ember
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invert the shockwave so it cancels each other out

left swift
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Did you try turning off the tnt before it exploded by flipping the lever back

worn ember
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does anyone know if i can change the DNS servers in Hetzner to cloudflares nameservers?

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i cant seem to find it anywhere, and google is only giving me reverse dns

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actually i'm dig dum lul nvm

fallen oracle
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Morning

warm anchor
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Good morning glare

worn ember
vestal jasper
brave lichen
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What is aikar's flags?

latent valve
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.flags

limber knotBOT
warm anchor
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It’s his java startup flag that’s tuned for Minecraft ^

brave lichen
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Ohhh thanks

serene bolt
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I wake up to 3 ghost pings in this channel 🤔

worn ember
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@serene bolt googleghost

serene bolt
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GHOST monkaChrist

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dance macabre!

quasi valley
serene bolt
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wow I wonder why I couldn't find those, weird

finite wave
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I just did the usual mention: yourtag

void void
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proxi's birb website is top notch

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the images are really HQ

worn ember
finite wave
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🏸

worn ember
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git is telling me theres changes, but theres nothing to commit KEKW

finite wave
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Are you comitting at the right place?

void void
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just nuke the whole repo and make a new one

worn ember
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its being weird again

quasi valley
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more like ded being ded again

void void
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it always starts working then™️

worn ember
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PepeHands probably

void void
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.git

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) xkcd: Git (30 October 2015)

finite wave
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No image

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thx

void void
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hm

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whered the image go then

finite wave
dapper nacelle
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true

quasi valley
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or just open 5 prs to edit a readme™️

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@void void if u find non birbs, dm me pic of them + the session cookies (it sends an ID for every image)

void void
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haha found image of hair drier on birb

spice finch
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D:

void void
quasi valley
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that's quite a hot birb

void void
serene bolt
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The Birb 3000

void void
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should probably dm that

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i feel sorry for that birb

quasi valley
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the birb 1875

void void
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nvm she has dms blocked

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so too bad

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@minor badge

finite wave
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Just do @ proxi with the id, issue fixed

void void
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id and birb ^^

finite wave
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Anyone watched "Minecraft: The movie"?

void void
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aww it showed a dead parrot

quasi valley
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"watched"?

void void
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yes watched

quasi valley
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isn't that due 2022? thonk

finite wave
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Oh nvm it is not released yet

void void
finite wave
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Well someone might be a time traveler

vestal jasper
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Proxi pls I need my birbs

void void
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ah so they're from r/PartyParrot

cedar spade
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Wiz troll account seems to have gotten deleted

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among others, nirvana

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the reddit post is alongside the id in session cookies

cedar spade
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Reported it earlier since they went through the effort of opening an issue on every EssX repo

finite wave
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Edok got a penis birb

serene bolt
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yeah it went around to a ton of repos

cedar spade
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29 that their profile showed + 4 hidden

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i did say theres more of a birb guarantee than sfw guarantee but its not even a nice dick 😡

finite wave
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The dick is very ugly yes

serene bolt
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wow there's entire dicks on there now lmao? and I thought me getting a pair of some breasts with a birb was sketchy

finite wave
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It was a dick, with a birb standing on it.

serene bolt
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...

stiff yarrow
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borb guarantee was upheld however!

serene bolt
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it's true, the claim is upheld!

void void
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proxi was that enough info

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well interesting site haha

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yes

void void
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oof

blazing nebula
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(This isn’t for me, I would always use a dedi, asking for a friend) Would you guys recommend Server.pro or Pebblehost for Minecraft Server Hosting?

limber knotBOT
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I've heard people claim pebble was ok, but I don't use shared hosts lol

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just refer to the thread in r/admincraft I guess

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I made a chart called bukkit_implementation for my plugins

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cuz ya that is a pretty useless chart

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I mean, bstats tracks that direclty now, lol

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you only need to add a pie-chart with the ID serverSoftware and it will show up ;D

worn ember
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today has been fun xD

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the srv record is being weird

iron zephyr
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Why is Shotbow exclusively on 1.12.2 haha?

limber knotBOT
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they probably don't want to bother with the quires that multi-version support introduces

unreal quarry
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everytime i watch these "quarantine concerts" i cant help but wonder wtf software are they using to not have any latency between each other :3

fallen oracle
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Zoom

unreal quarry
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lmao

limber knotBOT
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pretty sure any video call tool tries to have as little latency as possible

finite wave
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Meh

unreal quarry
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right, but they all have latency

limber knotBOT
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probably something peer2peer like jitsi would give you the fastest

unreal quarry
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theres nothing i can think of that would put musicians perfectly in time

finite wave
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They probably rehearsed with ltency or smth

limber knotBOT
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they might also just use a software that syncs the videos up depending on their latency

finite wave
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Ye

unreal quarry
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gotta be some kind of post processing and each one just records their own thing. i mean, hell, even on stage they have latency between each other :3

limber knotBOT
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mucisions usually don't play based on others, lol

worn ember
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i dont think live is live

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it could be delayed a bit

limber knotBOT
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*musicians, lol

shrewd dirge
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Finally automated downloads for the latest stable build of paperclip.jar... for the last year or so I've been doing it manually like a dork lol.

limber knotBOT
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how do you decide which build is stable? thonk

unreal quarry
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as a fellow musician, i can say that they indeed do play off each other's sounds :3

limber knotBOT
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well, maybe. but I bet you account for the delay as you are used to it xD

shrewd dirge
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Lol good point. Whatever one they have as "LastStableBuild" is what I'm going with. If it dies, it dies.

unreal quarry
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like, i'm sure you've seen musicians at concerts have those ear pieces, yeah? it blocks out the sounds of the other members that are 20+ feet from you and you get a "live" feed directly from their mics/pickups so its not delayed

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throw the internet in there and ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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baffles me lol

worn ember
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why are your members 20+ feet away in the first place tho?

limber knotBOT
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I mean as long as they can hold the tempo...

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you can manually sync them afterwards

worn ember
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im really confused what this conversation is about

limber knotBOT
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no livestream is truly live anyways ;)

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some are just delayed a bit more than others, lol

unreal quarry
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right, but that only works if each member is playing by themselves to a recording or something. you can have the guitarist playing off the drums sound if its 50-100ms behind, because then the drummer hears 100-200ms behind the guitarist

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its crazy

iron zephyr
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can I ask for thoughts on a very specific problem, and see if any of you brilliant people have ideas I haven't thought of?

worn ember
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

unreal quarry
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the band would get out of sync and slow down the tempo pretty fast

iron zephyr
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Okay, here goes: I'm trying desperately to move our server from MyWorlds (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/myworlds.39594/) to Hyperverse (https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hyperverse-w-i-p.77550/). Currently, MyWorlds is managing player inventories, and appears to be storing them in one world and carrying them to the other worlds. I'm trying to think of a way to save my player's survival inventories when we move to Hyperverse (which already has an importer for world settings, so that's gucci).

limber knotBOT
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I guess one of the reasons you have a conductor?

unreal quarry
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right, but not in a rock/pop band ^_^

limber knotBOT
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that's not music!

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runs

unreal quarry
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lol ^_^

limber knotBOT
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as if live performances of bands are ever in sync, lmao

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(if they are truly live I guess)

unreal quarry
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they mostly are if they have the right equipment to back them (like the ear piece i mentioned earlier)

worn ember
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what about the light delay tho

iron zephyr
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I could try backing up inventories from the survival world (playerdata?) and then restoring it in the main world once hyperverse is loaded?

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I'm kinda befuddled, but feel there should be a solution somewhere

worn ember
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pretty sure hyperverse doesnt deal with inventories yet

limber knotBOT
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what's your goal, D​aw​nh​un​te​r

iron zephyr
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It seems to, in a rudimentary way

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My goal is to save my player's survival inventories, that's it

limber knotBOT
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are you trying to do per-world inventories? because if so, please don't

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use bungeecord/waterfall/velocity and separate servers for that

iron zephyr
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I'm currently using MyWorlds for per-world-inventories, and am trying to save the survival inventories for the transition to hyperverse

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I appreciate that, but now I just want to not receive lots of angry messages about lost enchanted gear haha

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Inventories are stored in the PlayerData folder, correct?

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Anywhere else?

limber knotBOT
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as you are using a plugin you'll have to lookup how that plugin stores the data

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but in Vanilal it's stored in the playerdata folder in the main world, yes

iron zephyr
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Okay, thank you

worn ember
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anyone who can tell me what i'm doing wrong here? I can't figure this out lmao

bleak urchin
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SRV records don't work in the browser

worn ember
bleak urchin
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What you need is a reverse proxy

olive marlin
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Often browsers ignore SRV, that's true.

limber knotBOT
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yeah, you want nginx in front of that

worn ember
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oh ffs

bleak urchin
worn ember
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just send them the git diff's lol

olive marlin
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You either need reverse proxy, or you can just do locally port forwarding to forward 80 to 8080.

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But probably want a proxy anyway, to provide certs.

bleak urchin
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Where the hell do I find competent Discord bot devs aside from mc-market

worn ember
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yeah nginx it is then

unkempt drift
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guys back at it with wiz...

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wtf

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🤣

limber knotBOT
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J​ua​nD​el​Pu​eb​lo​: spigot has a section to hire people

cunning raft
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@golden gust @slim nymph @cosmic raft issue tracker

limber knotBOT
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just offer proper payment, lol

cunning raft
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@olive marlin delete that

cedar spade
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I uh

bleak urchin
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Guess I'll try making a post then

cedar spade
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nice multi ping

limber knotBOT
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#IrcNeverForgets 👀

worn ember
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MD, where do you pull the last build from for the essentialsx website?

olive marlin
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Sorry, didn't even know what was under that link.

bleak urchin
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That paste bin is... interesting to say the least

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A dox

quasi valley
vernal moth
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@stiff yarrow ^

unkempt drift
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yeah... those links shouldn't be there

vernal moth
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@golden gust ^

serene bolt
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yikes

cunning raft
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i think a gh staff nuked it

quasi valley
cunning raft
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their account is gone

unkempt drift
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what is this dudes issue

serene bolt
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how can you hate someone that much to do that shit, that's disgusting

unkempt drift
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yeah

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it really is

stiff yarrow
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it seems the moderator role can't delete those

cedar spade
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I opened a report earlier and they deleted the previous account, so my guess is GH is monitoring it

unkempt drift
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that seems like an issue... that the mods can't delete webhook posts

azure flower
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Reported the pastebin if that helps

unkempt drift
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oh yeah, ill do that too

worn ember
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how low can you go

vernal moth
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@cosmic raft u here?

quasi valley
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apparently not .-.

olive marlin
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Z?

unkempt drift
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unfortunately, if you were watching the repo, it sent you an email with the link too

serene bolt
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hopefully mods can get the permissions adjusted for that, since I imagine this won't be the last time

quasi valley
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imagine watching the paper repo lmao

vernal moth
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You watch the repo with email notifications

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Wat

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yeah if u like spam that's a possibility

unkempt drift
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I guess I didn't turn them off

quasi valley
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why in the world would you ever do that

limber knotBOT
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don't think discord has a permission to remove that, lol

vernal moth
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I watch the repo, but without emails

unkempt drift
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its a junk email I have as my main anyways

quasi valley
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junk mail = main mail kazheek

cedar spade
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Manage messages

limber knotBOT
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you can only manage messages of users that are below you iirc

olive marlin
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ManageMessages or ManageWebhooks.

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manage messages lets you delete any messages

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manage webhooks lets you even delete the webhook, but that's not ideal

cedar spade
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^^

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They only need manage messages to delete messages from webhooks

unreal quarry
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why are your members 20+ feet away in the first place tho?
just saw this question 😛 what do you mean? have you never been to a concert before? ^_^ they dont sit/stand very close together. here's paramore, for example

cedar spade
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depends on the band/venue, indie bands at smaller venues would be closer

vernal moth
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Did somebody send the link to wiz so he knows?

unreal quarry
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i've seen farther gaps in other bands

worn ember
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not like sound takes that long so it makes any noticeable difference for the people on stage lol

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thats like 3 steps

unreal quarry
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it does, ded

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it really does

steel pulsar
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it's more volume management than sound travel speed

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you get tons of feedback if they're close together

unreal quarry
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thats why they pay thousands of dollars for those ear pieces

worn ember
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the time it takes to process the audio and send it to the ear is the same as it takes the sound to get there normally

steel pulsar
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just look at Boris concerts

unreal quarry
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no, ded

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not at all :3

cedar spade
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ded that's not how music works-

worn ember
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ik you need to account for the speed of sound when you set audio towers for big concerts but not on stage

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thats new

unkempt drift
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has anyone taken a look at the find biome method? what are those last 2 integers. the locate biome command sets them as constants, so I'm guessing they are bounds to the search of some sort, im just not sure what kind of bounds.

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whats the spigot name

unkempt drift
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its in WorldChunkManager

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a(int, int, int, int, int, list, random, boolean)

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its called from WorldServer which is called form CommandLocateBiome

celest coyote
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cat is alive, wiz is saved

worn ember
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poor wiz

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    METHOD method_24385 locateBiome (IIIIILjava/util/List;Ljava/util/Random;Z)Lnet/minecraft/class_2338;
        ARG 1 x
        ARG 2 y
        ARG 3 z
        ARG 4 radius
        ARG 6 biomes
        ARG 7 random

@unkempt drift

unkempt drift
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there is 8 args

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yes

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arg 5 is unknown

unkempt drift
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oh lol

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deduce it from the code i guess

unkempt drift
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I guess 2 are unknown?

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cause that is missing 5 and 8

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ye

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i guess u could perhaps find out if u looked at mcp mappings

heady spear
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yikes

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double yikes honestly

quasi valley
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mcp kekw

slim nymph
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and that guys account is nuked now, guess github got him after that

heady spear
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imagine spending this much time on wiz smh

serene bolt
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yeah I think they may be monitoring it now since it's been happening a lot across different accounts

twin lagoon
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what happened

unkempt drift
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well I mean he posted like 5 issues in the span of a second or two

serene bolt
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just some wiz haters taking it way too far

unkempt drift
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that has to trip something at gh

slim nymph
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i reported him last night and others did too

unkempt drift
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I thought this was a different acct

serene bolt
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it is

quasi valley
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did you report the paste as well?

serene bolt
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yeah, i think a few of us did

unkempt drift
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yep

vernal moth
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Wouldn't be surprised if GitHub can trace ppl

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Across accounts

slim nymph
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github said they were 'investigating' 4 hours ago

cedar spade
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did someone else file a report?

unkempt drift
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Proximyst: are the mcp mappings updated for recent versions? or maybe im just not finding them

slim nymph
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werent all these same user?

cedar spade
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I added the scientist account and issue URLs to my report from this morning

unkempt drift
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I think they were different accounts

quasi valley
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just use yarn

cedar spade
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probably same person, but different accounts

minor badge
#

MCPConfig, @unkempt drift

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yarn doesn't have the mapping he needs, kenny

slim nymph
#

my email says all same person

quasi valley
#

ah nubs

slim nymph
#

ohi ts a new one from the one before

cedar spade
#

different account that hit EssX and others ~12 hours ago, that account got deleted soon after my report

unkempt drift
#

Proximyst: nah, don't see it there either. I don't see the whole BiomeSource class

minor badge
#

did u actually run it

potent fossil
#

Morning, what's the drama today

heady spear
#

ur dum

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that's the drama

potent fossil
#

Sounds right to me

wide chasm
#

MD removed all backward compat from EssentialsX /s

unreal quarry
#

@unkempt drift int 4 is radius

unkempt drift
#

5 and 8 are the ones Im looking for

unreal quarry
#

doesnt seem to be used in yarn

unkempt drift
#

yeah

celest coyote
waxen panther
#

ah yes

heady spear
unreal quarry
#

@unkempt drift looking at mcdev, though, looks like int 5 is used as a step in the for loops

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so, 6400 radius, stepping 8 each iteration

unkempt drift
#

oh so the space between blocks its tests for the biome

unreal quarry
#

yeah

unkempt drift
#

yeah ok that makes sense

unreal quarry
#

@heady spear if only we could give people 1 star ratings, huh? lmao

kindred storm
#

rating users would be awesome

serene bolt
#

can you imagine a discord rating on your user profile, oh dear

unreal quarry
#

i meant on spigot forums lol

#

all these kids 1 staring plugins for lack of 1.8 support

#

lets just 1 star them back

fallen oracle
#

Ahh, so like, being able to review the reviewers?

#

I actually really like that idea.

unreal quarry
#

like the kid that 1 stared my plugin because i didnt make dolphins ridable in 1.8

twin lagoon
#

a rep system would've been nice on spigot

quasi valley
#

then you have top prestige reviewers

fallen oracle
#

"I feel this person has poor taste in leaving reviews."

quasi valley
#

lmao

twin lagoon
#

but spigot is dying

spice finch
#

dolphins
1.8.8

#

wtf?

mighty storm
#

ayy the karl troll account got deleted

fallen oracle
#

It's already hard enough to get non-legit reviews removed.

serene bolt
#

I’m sure that wouldn’t be abused at all
the report queue would double overnight

kindred storm
#

i thought this idea sounded good at first, but upon further thought it would probably perpetuate the problem of reviews

warm anchor
#

let's go with real name review on internet like in China

heady spear
#

I have this dumb ass 4 star review where the reviewer admits to not having used the bloody plugin

unreal quarry
#

nah, if a user has a low enough rating they wont be able to post any ratings anywhere

heady spear
#

all other reviews are 5 star

unreal quarry
#

problem would solve itself

heady spear
#

it's so annoying

#

because now it's sub 5 stars bcuz this moron decided to not use his brain smh

fallen oracle
#

If a reviewer gets average review under 3 stars, they should have the ability to review disabled for them.

warm anchor
#

One has to pass an IQ test first before review function is enabled

heady spear
#

and if a plugin author goes below 3 stars they should be banned

#

yay

mighty storm
#

if the review contains a stack trace, ban them from making reviews ever

fallen oracle
#

I think that's how premium plugins are.

mighty storm
#

thanks rory

steel pulsar
#

wait......... github good ?????

warm anchor
#

is that the report for Winzjany fan boy yesterday Yess

mighty storm
#

yeah the karl dude

#

all his issues are gone and the account is too

slim nymph
#

same person who responded to me a few hours ago, so rory now is wiz's personal defender

worn ember
#

Guardians of the Wiz

mighty storm
#

the virgin troll vs the chad rory

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How do i even see how long ive been on github

#

on July 26, 2014
almost 6 years

golden gust
#

spigot doesn't care about stuff that wasn't reported properly

serene bolt
#

your ticket is still open and there's active discussion going on in it, because your report was actually worded properly

golden gust
#

not to mention, spigot doesn't really care about stuff that happens outside of their platform

#

wait, so you mean

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If you report stuff properly, people look at it?

#

wtf

serene bolt
#

amazing

mighty storm
#

wait, so if i report obama for "not revealing last name" it just gets thrown out?

fallen oracle
#

Which report?

#

That can't have been 2 weeks

#

Maybe a week

unreal quarry
#

@mighty storm where did you see that? i'm curious when i started my GH account

wide chasm
#

Wasn't it a week ago or so

unreal quarry
#

feels like 2007 or so

mighty storm
#

@unreal quarry just go to your profile, scroll down to the farthest year down and click the oldest year, says "Joined" at the bottom

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i think

wide chasm
#

Time flies when you have new drama every day

mighty storm
#

hard to explain but yeah

unreal quarry
#
  1. huh.. that seems wrong because I had android stuff on GH farther back than that (so i thought)
fallen oracle
#

Honestly, the idea of the SpigotMC Discord is amazing. I can tag people who leave reviews easier.

unreal quarry
#

must have had a 2nd account :3

serene bolt
#

Has to be longer than 1 week, I can’t be that crazy
"Jun 29, 2020"

fallen oracle
#

Because they are verified and I know who is who now.

wide chasm
#

Well, that is over a week

stiff yarrow
#

I’m not a fan of super popular discords

worn ember
#

is in 11k discord

mighty storm
#

thats just popular

#

super popular is 100k+

worn ember
#

thos are just aids

golden gust
#

no, ur just aids

mighty storm
#

ouch

worn ember
#

;o so rood

wide chasm
#

How can you have normal conversations with 100k+ people?

mighty storm
#

well obviously they dont all talk at once

unreal quarry
#

even with slow mode i imagine its hectic in those

worn ember
#

50 channels

mighty storm
#

and there's probably a lot more speciifc channels

stiff yarrow
#

If you think 11k is super popular you probably haven’t been in too many discords

void void
#

tbf theres some that are aids with 5 people

worn ember
#

im in TPH

mighty storm
#

im on 80? or so

worn ember
#

which is like idk 50k or so

mighty storm
#

i only talk in 4

wide chasm
#

I'm in 8

#

Need to keep my mod to not mod ratio high :)

void void
#

i'm in 34 discords

#

but talk yeah in much less

worn ember
#

is it possible for the default java executor service (the one used for completable futures) to be shut down at some point? people keep reporting my plugin stops working after a long time but i have no clue how thats possible as its literally just a bunch of completable futures

mighty storm
#

see ive learned my lesson: never own any servers on your main account

wide chasm
#

I have a backup account which has admin perms and I pray that that's enough

mighty storm
#

Yeah, thats good. if your server has 100+ members you can request ownership transfer if the owner is "inactive" for a month or more

worn ember
#

just dont get banned

wide chasm
#

checks members
25
Well...

serene bolt
#

that seems easily abusable so I doubt it's just that, more has to go into it

mighty storm
#

oh it took me months to get to that threshold

#

Nope, thats the actual requirements

#

ill grab them real quick

#

nvm that account is banned too

wide chasm
#

lol

#

What are you doing that you get banned so often

serene bolt
#

I mean.... being inactive for a month isn't that long of a time.... losing your server because you dropped off the internet for a month due to medical issues or otherwise shouldn't result in that

mighty storm
#

basically all you need is

  1. 100+ Members
  2. Owner to be inactive for more than a month
  3. TO be mod or admin on said server
  4. Owner Username#Discrim
  5. Your Username#Discrim
  6. Screenshot of Members screen
    send it over, now you're owner
worn ember
#

imagine murdering the owner to then request owernship after a month

wide chasm
#

Don't give kids ideas Dark

worn ember
#

z cmere i'd like to talk to you

unreal quarry
unkempt drift
#

Billy do you have an idea of what that last argument is supposed to be? I can't get the mcpconfig project to build for some reason.
it looks like a boolean that controls the initial value of the outer-most for loop.

twin lagoon
#

i can believe it tbh

steel pulsar
#

java gamers: how common are the transient, synchronized, and volatile modifiers?

mighty storm
#

Well, most of the time the owner is actually active

serene bolt
#

there has to be more too it than that, I'm sure there's a full review of circumstances

unreal quarry
#

No idea @unkempt drift it's altering the starting point of the loop, though. It's hard to read mcdev :3

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And yarn doesn't have any of that

unkempt drift
#

yeah, agreed

mighty storm
#

Well, an inactive discord is an unmaintained one, right?

#

according to them

dusk drift
#

not 30 days tho

serene bolt
#

but 30 days isn't even really unmaintained....

wide chasm
#

Not very often Red ime

mighty storm
#

Remember, this is discord we're talking about

wide chasm
#

But they have their uses

mighty storm
#

some realll dumb idiots over here

#

so yeah, it's reasonable

heady spear
#

If the server owner has been logged in what so ever during that 30 day period the server can't get transferred over

steel pulsar
#

thank you

heady spear
#

So inactive means that they haven't been on Discord what so ever

mighty storm
#

Correct, logged in at all

#

not necessarily speaking in the server

serene bolt
#

that's still a stupidly short time frame

mighty storm
unreal quarry
#

30 days in a gaming community is a lifetime, tbh

mighty storm
#

idk, my server definitely wasnt "Public" public and i still got it transferred

serene bolt
#

I mean think about how many accounts you haven't logged into in the past 30 days, should you lose access to a bunch of crap because of it? that seems pretty harsh... more of a reason for me to hate Discord I guess

mighty storm
#

ay welcome to the club

serene bolt
#

same lol

wide chasm
#

30 days is pretty short, but other than that the system makes sense

mighty storm
#

this is how you overthrow md5 pre, as soon as he's 30 days offline, snipe the sevrer from him

serene bolt
#

if your server has active moderation and staff, and your server is under control, I cannot see why your server would ever be transferred simply due to owner inactivity

unreal quarry
#

90 days i can agree more with

#

i use 90 days on my server to delete old claims

serene bolt
#

which is why I think there has to be more review that goes into it

unreal quarry
#

actually, wait.. i'm using 30 days to delete claims

#

^_^

mighty storm
#

Someone gave a good example of a Company Community server, say the owner is a puppet account shared by the team, but they never log into it. Me as the discord mod can just take ownership??

vernal moth
#

We have plenty of time till 1.17, right?

mighty storm
#

3 days mini

vernal moth
#

Who would kill me for porting hangar to spring?

mighty storm
#

thats how it was for me

quasi valley
#

I would both kill and love you

wide chasm
#

grabs knife

vernal moth
#

That would involve rewriting thousands of lines of scala

mighty storm
#

just re-write site with Rails, not hard mmLol

#

rails uses spring right? idk

vernal moth
#

But I could simplify things, it would make maintincance way easier and would allow to easily implement new stuff

#

Including accepting contributions

#

Rails is Ruby

#

That's worse than play/Scala

mighty storm
#

ruby spring

wide chasm
#

Just rewrite in C, ez /s

twin lagoon
#

mini hear me out

#

re-create hangar from scratch

vernal moth
#

No Olivia

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

That's unrelated

mighty storm
#

michael here me out

vernal moth
#

Nah, scratch is way too hard

mighty storm
#

re-create hangar IN scratch

twin lagoon
wide chasm
#

Hangar in Skript?

vernal moth
#

I wrote Tetris in scratch at school

wide chasm
#

Everyone loves Skript

mighty storm
#

Scratch*

vernal moth
#

It actually worked

#

My fellow students thought I was a magician

mighty storm
potent fossil
mighty storm
#

off brand techrax

potent fossil
#

idk who either of them are

serene bolt
#

I love youtube thumbnails that have peoples face with their surprise look

#

always dumb faces

potent fossil
mighty storm
serene bolt
#

WE DID THIS CRAZY THING :O

potent fossil
#

i dont even want to know, olivia

serene bolt
#

N O T C L I C K B A I T

potent fossil
#

i dont even want to fucking know

#

(goes to look anyway)

mighty storm
#

looks like some dude "felt threatened"

#

and someone got fired accoriding to ceo

#

idk i dont use twitter much anymore

potent fossil
#

ah yes, dude doesnt want to wear a mask

#

hope he chokes

potent fossil
#

fuck vsauce

mighty storm
#

i dont wear masks because i never leave my house

olive marlin
#

They unfortunately removed the requirements of wearing masks anywhere but at stores.

#

And number of cases clearly increased.

unreal quarry
#

Is this Modern Humor
I've felt like that for the last 20 years lmao glad the next generation is finally feeling it ^_^

heady spear
#

aight noobs am out o/ miss me loads

potent fossil
#

Well clearly not for this guy, cause he's in a store, not wearing a mask, threatening to kill people over asking to wear a mask.

golden gust
#

pubs opened on saturday

serene bolt
#

Chicago has been doing insanely good with Covid, pretty proud. We've been stupidly restricted the entire time though, and masks are required e v e r y w h e r e for good reason

golden gust
#

4 have already closed due to covid transmission

serene bolt
#

lmao

#

everyones just rushing the reopening just so we can experience a 2nd wave of everything going to shit again

golden gust
#

also, isn't the onset latency like, a bit longer than that?

#

I can defo see this blowing up again

#

not that that isn't all the scientific advisors are screaming about

olive marlin
#

Here they did it just for political reason. This year's propaganda is almost on a north Korean level lmao

azure flower
#

We (the uk) do seem to be making a bit of a mess of this don't we

serene bolt
#

your dumb PM doesn't help, that being said, our dumb president doesn't help either

azure flower
#

Btw have you driven to your local castle recently

#

Remember thats the only way to ensure it is safe for you to drive

golden gust
#

too late to ender lockdown, too much pissing around and hypocracy during it, and all of a sudden it's like, "hey, lets start opening stuff as this is starting to die down, woo"

#

My funny one is the police statement

serene bolt
#

Covid packed up and left guys!

potent fossil
#

2nd wave is already here

#

my city has over 3000 cases now

golden gust
#

"it's clear that drunk people don't know how to observe social distancing"

#

WHODA FUCKING GUESSED?!

potent fossil
#

bc they tried to open everything

#

we had only like 30

#

and they reopened

#

oops multiply that by 100

#

closed

#

fucking idiots

golden gust
#

the most annoying part is know how much better off the whole world would be if we actually listened to the scienetics about this

#

It's like, you want them to do politics, they fuck off; You want them to make sane factual decisions, it's literally all politics

#

The only thing we've seen is how incompetant and how much of a hypocritical lying scumbag that bojo is

azure flower
#

yeah but science bad and scary because i don't understand it, also I don't see anyone getting it much, which is not at all related to all the measures we have undertaken to ensure not as many people get it, so surely this is a massive overreaction

#

also something about 5g being bad but not as bad as china probably

golden gust
#

(ANd, well, bojo being a douche is hardly new, just...)

#

then again, bojo vs jeremy corbyn...

azure flower
#

I've just realised that nhs app never appeared. The fuck happened to that.

golden gust
#

Ones sitting in his corner eating PVA, the others dreaming of a privatised hippy land of happiness, global peace, and free shit

olive marlin
#

In the beginning, hospitals here got orders that as long patient had any other disease, it should be used as his reason of death and not covid (family at hospitals).

azure flower
#

That was being trialled at one point right

unreal quarry
#

i think the problem is no one wants to make the neccessary mandates because it doesnt sit well with "political correctness" or whatever. no one wants too be "that guy" that oppressed everyone's freedoms lol

golden gust
#

they fucked up

#

typical government contracts shit out to the cheapest bidder and well, shit doesn't work

#

they're waiting on google/apple afaik right now

potent fossil
#

most people i see when i absolutely must go to the store wear a mask and dont complain about it

olive marlin
#

It's like at the old days. People want to get more, not less.
Back in the day you gave more rights to people to support you.
Now you give more cash and rights to people to support you.

potent fossil
#

but i've seen a few of these absolute fucking tards

golden gust
#

(I mean, not that this isn't the typical adventure of every single NHS IT project...)

unreal quarry
#

i went out last week for the first time in ages, didnt even think about the masks thing. i got kicked out of 2 stores. so thats a big win, imho, in the enforcement going on here in texas

#

and thats before the governor mandated it. it was optional at that time, iirc

#

pretty sure its a $1000 fine now, too

warm anchor
#

I keep a box of onetime use mask in my car for that reason

serene bolt
#

and they actually are enforcing the fines here as well, I've seen two people get fined for it already and they were going nuts and just get more charges LUL

potent fossil
#

ok, ive had far too much twitter today

#

i swear to god fellas

#

this world...

#

trash.

#

we should all burn.

quasi valley
#

twitter smaiel

potent fossil
#

Yeah well I hope a certain other president catches it soon but I ain't voluntarily going on any watchlists.

quasi valley
#

lol

steel pulsar
#

the president of nintendo

potent fossil
#

Cause if he does maybe he'd start to actually do something about it

#

Or not

warm anchor
#

Nah

#

He will just come out and say “see I got it. It’s not a big deal. Just like regular cold”

#

“Let’s continue opening up America”

lament patio
#

Yup, and on top of it advocate for hydroxychloroquine, which we still use here

#

"See? It works"

potent fossil
#

posted by the actual Velcro company

worn ember
#

well now i'm not doing it

potent fossil
#

im pretty sure they're being ungodly sarcastic

#

just watch it

#

its great

quasi valley
#

is that a big lawyer company or what?

potent fossil
#

no they make a lot of shit, but "Velcro" is that stuff that sticks together with the fuzzy shit

#

or, should i say

#

"FUCKING HOOK AND LOOP"

#

(watch vid for context)

quasi valley
#

ah lmao I see

potent fossil
#

this is top memery

steel pulsar
#

they'll lose their trademark if they don't do something like that

#

it's happened before

potent fossil
#

i know. it's in the fucking video

#

watch it.

#

christ

steel pulsar
#

no i just explained it in my post

potent fossil
#

yeah but if you just watch the video, you dont need an explanation

#

its a good video

tribal flicker
#

if i buy a vps

#

can i pay someone to help me use linux

#

:'I

potent fossil
steel pulsar
#

hell yes i'm available

potent fossil
#

Go to spigot.

tribal flicker
#

hi red

potent fossil
#

Stop. Or go to DMs.

tribal flicker
#

nice to meet you

#

okay okay

steel pulsar
#

it's a joke

quasi valley
#

ahaha the second video is even better

#

I love how they only semi blacked out names and points, so you can still see the laugh at some people's -62 points 😂

potent fossil
#

I swear god, they're fucking meme lords.

serene bolt
#

these videos are actually really good

potent fossil
#

Yeah, I know lmao

serene bolt
#

"please die of genocide" wtf lmao

finite wave
#

German words ew

slim nymph
#

I see we have a new member snuck in 😛

potent fossil
#

wat

slim nymph
#

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

twin lagoon
#

aikar pls tell us

upper flicker
#

pimple is the new member

potent fossil
#

oh yes of course

#

welcome me

slim nymph
#

he hasnt said anything yet lol

potent fossil
#

i am important

twin lagoon
#

well you disabled welcomes so you have to reeeeeeeee

slim nymph
#

lol i was just going over mod logs just to look for any suspicious joins and noticed it

serene bolt
#

Aikar I still think your idea of the minecraft server for a bunch of us playing through 1.16 and livestreaming it would be a pretty cool idea

twin lagoon
#

i can confirm

potent fossil
#

who is it reee

twin lagoon
#

it is not md_5 or hypixel

slim nymph
#

I am totally doing it on EMC once I get EMC to 1.16 😛

#

yall can enjoy my torment

quasi valley
#

hypixel joined, sure

twin lagoon
#

it's not aikar's alter ego either

slim nymph
#

difficulty 7+ only!

twin lagoon
serene bolt
#

that'd be super fun

slim nymph
#

see how big of a base we can build, no trolling

#

i might slip in a boss spawn here or there 😉

serene bolt
#

just a bunch of devs who never play the game having to play modern minecraft

#

i'm sure a ton of people would love to watch that too

potent fossil
fallen oracle
#

Oh god

#

I just learned what end rods were the other day.

slim nymph
#

yeah i haven't "played" in years

serene bolt
#

same

fallen oracle
#

rt

quasi valley
#

I hope you got to know them from specific piston contraptions, glare

slim nymph
#

and the bug that annoyed me with my own boss is now fixed!

potent fossil
#

i haven't "played", properly, since beta 1.8

twin lagoon
#

KENNY

fallen oracle
#

Wait what

twin lagoon
#

the sheep machine

quasi valley
#

nothing nothing

slim nymph
#

i built this dangbase to fight my flying boss. and he kept having a north west flying bias

#

flying away

fallen oracle
#

o.o

quasi valley
#

lmao a tutorial with bad text on screen

#

what is this, 2005?

fallen oracle
#

Can we go back to like 30 seconds ago when I didn't know that was a thing?

twin lagoon
#

no

slim nymph
#

wat

#

im disturbed

twin lagoon
#

yeah i would be too

serene bolt
#

what the hell

potent fossil
#

damn TIL that borat movie was staged as a documentary and then completely twisted what they filmed to make the locals look like like tards, and it really offended them. kinda feel bad for praising that shit now, thought everyone was in on it but it was one huge disgusting prank

twin lagoon
#

@slim nymph who is the new person reeeeeeeeee

serene bolt
#

I think I know who it is Pog

potent fossil
#

who the fk is it

serene bolt
#

md_5 is finally here everyone

quasi valley
potent fossil
#

k

golden gust
#

god, that video

#

works for me

#

back in 2

serene bolt
#

I hate that I actually watched like a minute of the video

#

hello @muted storm moon2CUTE

potent fossil
#

oh, it's that guy

#

anticlimactic

fallen oracle
twin lagoon
#

i do not believe it

unkempt drift
#

lol

potent fossil
#

fuck off glare, your trolls don't work here

twin lagoon
#

we have been bamboozled

void void
#

smh

twin lagoon
#

@muted storm send dog pics

golden gust
potent fossil
#

good purchase imo

golden gust
#

.canada

limber knotBOT
golden gust
#

Does anybody have this issue watching AvE where you just wanna like... adopt all his lingo?

#

(But, then you remember, that some of his stuff would probs be instabunned from some places)

steel pulsar
#

it comes naturally if you're from newfoundland/alberta

#

especially the use of 'what' to indicate anything from 'that', to 'when'

#

beautiful

potent fossil
#

who is AvE

golden gust
#

wat

#

.g AvE

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChWv6Pn_zP0rI6lgGt3MyfA -- AvE - YouTube: "Err and err and err again but less and less and less. -Piet Hein This channel has awesome Patrons. We have no need, nor any inclination to do corpo..."

potent fossil
#

never heard of this man in my life

golden gust
#

Dude

potent fossil
#

recommend good video

golden gust
#

Erm...

#

Too hard

#

Like, they're all good

#

picking one out is like...

potent fossil
#

what does he do o.o

#

this looks like heavy machinery stuff

steel pulsar
#

latest one, just like all of them, pretty much indicate the quality of the channel

golden gust
#

He's basically a shop floor type guy

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he brings some essential tech to the world

potent fossil
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mild anemic dubstep

cedar spade
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I see no red Material Design-esque flask icons

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0/10 no essential

mighty storm
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has anyone made a spigotdrama plugin yet

potent fossil
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fuckin hell

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i need to go get my car smogged

proper ore
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If I want to run a server with 100+ players, what's my best option for hardware.

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I know mc is very single threaded, so I probably just want one i9-9900k core right?

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how much ram though, really any help regarding this would be appreciated.

golden gust
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you need multiple cores

potent fossil
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10+gb ram with room for system and jvm overhead (so 14+) is the standard

golden gust
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the main tick loop is on a single thread, but, there is other stuff going on too

proper ore
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how many threads would you recommend

golden gust
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4 min

proper ore
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do you recommend any specific host for this?

golden gust
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places like OVH, etc

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shared hosting is literally just ass for high player counts, i9s are also a nightmare for cooling that OVH is one of few companies who actually have the cooling capacity for them

proper ore
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how much would I be looking at for monthly hosting in terms of cost?

twin lagoon
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~$100/mo

proper ore
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Yeah, what I was expecting.

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Would it matter how many plugins I have? I'm only going to have very few

twin lagoon
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no

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avoid CMI while at it

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and songoda plugins

quasi valley
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and SkinsRestorer

twin lagoon
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and ProtocolSupport

quasi valley
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and ViaVersion, that's horrible as well

bleak urchin
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Also avoid any kangarko plugins

unkempt drift
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I mean, that's a given for any situation

fiery quest
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anyone having issues with the oneplayersleep datapack and 1.16.2 paper

proper ore
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I've been an admin for forever now, I know my way around I'm not new. Just I've been offered something where I need to create a server for 100+ players, I've never gotten above 20.

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And I know Songoda is dirt trash and how awful the owner is

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Also, why not Viaversion if you mind me asking?

twin lagoon
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that was a joke

quasi valley
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I'm a Via dev :p ... ProtocolSupport was also a joke, but the rest wasn't

proper ore
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Ah

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Alright, thank you

serene bolt
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hey kenny how good is the packet limiter in viaversion, is it just a blanket packet limiter or is it targeting something specific. tried to look through the code last night but uh, that's one project alright

quasi valley
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just plainly counts incoming packets

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so like, if you're already running Via and need nothing more than that, you might as well use it. but if not/you need to count on specific packets, use leaf's or something 😛

serene bolt
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yeah sounds good

prime pilot
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Just updated to 1.16.1 you guys are the best ❤️

twin lagoon
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no, you are

potent fossil
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Uh did Barty get kicked?

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Nvm

twin lagoon
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@spare venture

potent fossil
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Phone was being dumb

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Barty did you update yet

void void
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anyone know of a plugin/way to select certain natural structures to be generated. I want all generated but villages and ocean temples.

potent fossil
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I'm using you as a reference for when to update

twin lagoon
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why

potent fossil
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No real reason, he just waits around the same time I feel safe with

quick finch
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i am new here. Question. When is 1.16.2 gonna be released?

twin lagoon
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idk

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ask mojang

potent fossil
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It's not out yet even at Mojang so we can't tell you

quasi valley
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soon™️

potent fossil
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For reference, we can only update when spigot updates.

slim nymph
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mojangs on vacation atm

quick finch
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ohh

vagrant niche
latent valve
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just change .1 to .2

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lmao lax

potent fossil
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@vagrant niche

vagrant niche
latent valve
potent fossil
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Let's hope my car passes smog

vagrant niche
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Ya got any emotes for kick

potent fossil
vagrant niche
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Stop using my shit

potent fossil
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No

vagrant niche
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Get ur own

potent fossil
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No

serene bolt
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👢

quasi valley
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🥾

vagrant niche
spice finch
vagrant niche
potent fossil
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LMAO, that cat wound up all calmly and just released power levels over 9000

vagrant niche
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Kotlin and Gradle, the most hipster combo ever smd

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Bonus pts if it only builds if your CPU is below 36C

serene bolt
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that's a weird way to say superior

quasi valley
vagrant niche
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^

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K 🤮 tlin

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M 👌 ven

finite wave
pastel pivot
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Is Kotlin a morphological derivation from the German word "Kot"?

finite wave
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Stop speaking fancy

static badge
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k omegaLUL tlin

finite wave
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I like kotlin, allows me to do stuff easier.

cedar spade
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you know how you sometimes have moments of "damn I wish Java had nicer syntax for this"

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I just had that with the English language

finite wave
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lombok for english?

cedar spade
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English is a programming language confirmed

latent valve
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.lombok

quasi valley
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.lombok

limber knotBOT
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[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

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[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

vagrant niche
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That's why god created C

finite wave
quasi valley
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no that was his drunk uncle

finite wave
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Rust > C

cedar spade
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Java > C

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it has more letters

vagrant niche
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Lucifer created Rust lol

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python is the saint of all languages

finite wave
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Hah

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Chef best program lang

quasi valley
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python is the saint of all languages
until it isn't

wide chasm
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Wolfram Language > *
Create cloud apps with a single line of code

spice finch
stiff yarrow
spice finch
latent valve
pastel pivot
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the python compiler is a pseudo code interpreter 😄

spice finch
static badge
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why does his legs look so long

wide chasm
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.py is the file extension for pseudo code

pastel pivot
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true 😅

stiff yarrow
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@static badge he is still but a babe

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growth spurts n stuff

vagrant niche
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Can we not talk about children like that, thanks.

cedar spade
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Can we not talk about Lax, thanks.

void void
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pog

pastel pivot
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I was never interested in the mc bedrock stuff and nor I am now but I'm wondering what is the server software all those servers such as mineplex bedrock are using. Are there actually APIs comparable to those of the java edition? Or do they only use vanilla supported addons?