Cuz it's not maintained
#general
worn ember
Yeah there's a fork on spigot
mighty storm
unkempt drift
use the craftbukkit fork of paper 😛
worn ember
For 1.16
viral mulch
I don't know of anything better, but there is ChunkMaster: https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/chunkmaster.71351/
It supports Paper's async chunk loading
tired ice
thanks
mighty storm
Chunkmaster
cancel this man right now /s
golden gust
This is why we can't have nice things
grand pewter
what's wrong with it
viral mulch
Can't attest to its goodness or badness
potent fossil
i kekked at his followup about the inevitable sunsetting @mighty storm https://i.imgur.com/tHghtiM.png
viral mulch
It's free and open source
mighty storm
Dynmap Integration
Starting with version Beta 0.15 the plugin integrates with dynmap if the dynmap plugin is detected. It triggers the rendering of tiles for the chunks that have been generated and displays the generation area as a marker on the map.
heady spear
Ppl in here have a weird efficiency fetish
viral mulch
WorldBorder is not supported
heady spear
Ignore 99% of what they say
tired ice
lol
grand pewter
efficiency fetish 
potent fossil
I have a fetish fetish
heady spear
I like to make my shit as inefficient as possible
viral mulch
Optimization was my favorite unit of calculus
heady spear
And then pass off the blame to everyone else
tired ice
^^
heady spear
Ur a sick man
potent fossil
Optimization is fucking terrible
viral mulch
No its great - Especially multivariable optimization
potent fossil
no
zealous wedge
tom scott is great
viral mulch
My Dad says if I get into AI there is even more optimization problems I can do
heady spear
It’s what made me wanna switch from a math major to just cs lol
viral mulch
Well I mean Computer Science majors are probably more employable 😆
hazy veldt
Found someone to make the birb ai
heady spear
I do computer engineering now, so it’s the worst from all disciplines my uni offer
worn ember
Train an ai to make birbs
viral mulch
I'm planning to go to college just for the fun of it, so I'm hoping to double major in Math/Computer Science
heady spear
Horrible engineering classes, horrible math classes, horrible cs classes and horrible business management classes
viral mulch
@heady spear Where do you got to school?
mighty storm
college just for the fun of it
man i were as rich as you
viral mulch
I have a full academic scholarship
mighty storm
ew
viral mulch
I got 34/36 on the ACT 😉
heady spear
I love theoretical and formal shit, it’s the applied maths that makes me question everything
worn ember
I have the power of europe
heady spear
Sweden ;D free uni
mighty storm
college sucks, i really dont wanna go
heady spear
Or rather, we get paid to attend uni
viral mulch
@heady spear Wait what? Why would you switch from Math to CS if you like theoretical math more than applied math?
Also what are your feelings about Physics?
worn ember
City is a big dum
heady spear
Math here is 75% applied because the math department is underfunded af
heady spear
Last year there were only two pure math students left after the second semester
mighty storm
why go to college and endure 4 years of stress and nonsense for a dumb degree when i could just kill myself spend half a year taking classes online and start my own business
fallen oracle
To get the college experience
heady spear
So most math is applied/taught by engineers
viral mulch
Yeah well here in America a lot of companies just require college degrees for no reason
heady spear
You can’t really get into cs without a cs degree here, preferably a masters
worn ember
Note to self: don't chug 2l of coke if you plan on sleeping
mighty storm
Yeah well here in America a lot of companies just require college degrees for no reason
@viral mulch hence the starting my own company thing lol
heady spear
Nearly everyone goes for a masters anyway
worn ember
Mains*
heady spear
Just having a bachelors here is useless
worn ember
Master bad word
viral mulch
@mighty storm If you're lucky enough to live in California that can actually be a substitue for a college degree
mighty storm
id rather spend 4 years and the same amount of money and stress making a business than getting an education i dont even need
worn ember
I'm doing a master city :(
heady spear
So most programmes are 5 years. You can get a 4 year degree if you plan on teaching or going into finance tho
mighty storm
texas, 
viral mulch
In some places there are companies like Google who will accept you without a college degree
heady spear
I’m getting a combined bachelors and masters
worn ember
You'll make more with a degree tho
heady spear
And apparently uni is only opening up for freshers, so it’s online for another year
Online classes literally ruined my life
mighty storm
see, if i were to go to a company, and theyre hiring based off of not skill, but ability to survive college, not gonna work there
heady spear
They dropped my gpa to 3.0 :)))
mighty storm
bro id rather go online than in person, fuck being with people honestly
worn ember
I passed my finals like barely. All like 50%
heady spear
I failed 2 out of 4 courses because I couldn’t concentrate at all
mighty storm
i can work with people, but not in person
heady spear
I lost all motivation and started drinking instead
viral mulch
What?
heady spear
Turns out it’s hard to study if you’re constantly drunk
viral mulch
That's too bad 😦
mighty storm
and now my cat is screaming brb
hazy veldt
Sal Khan is a god
worn ember
I hate online classes. I just slept most of the day
viral mulch
I used that to teach myself Trigonemtry and about half a semester of Calculus
heady spear
I can’t stand Sal or w/e his name is
mighty storm
the problem with online classes is no one was prepared for them
viral mulch
Why not?
heady spear
I’d rather go for a ride in my laundry machine than listen to him
mighty storm
Sal from Impractical Jokers?
viral mulch
I mean he does kind of overexplain things sometimes
heady spear
MIT OCW ftw
viral mulch
I used that for Multivariable Calculus
The problems are much more fun
The professors are more boring
potent fossil
my calculus class average was 79% before schools shut down
we finished the semester with 30%.
heady spear
Also khan doesn’t really teach anything, sorta just feels like they mumble for 15 minutes about nothing
viral mulch
KhanAcademy has some videos on Multivaraible Calculus that are nice to get an intuition but you need MIT OCW for a full understanding
potent fossil
our teacher literally just stopped giving a fuck.
heady spear
I end up unlearning
heady spear
My physics professor said you can’t teach physics online
potent fossil
he would spent 3 hours on 2 problems.
peak dirge
I remember my multivariable calculus course... I took it last summer and lemme tell you, that class was difficult
viral mulch
@heady spear I have to disagree - I skipped into a Calculus class midway through my Sophmore year of highschol and was instantly top of the class
peak dirge
I somehow emerged with the highest grade in the class
viral mulch
Well you're Tux.......
ocean moon
@viral mulch wow ur so smart
heady spear
Our teacher just recorded the ceiling in half her lectures
peak dirge
My discrete math class was a nightmare tho
viral mulch
@peak dirge Isn't that just programming-like stuff?
heady spear
Wat
peak dirge
yeah, but my professor was more interested in the math stuff than the programming aspects
peak dirge
he waxed so much about the "infinite hotel" problem
heady spear
Discrete is way more than just programming like shit
peak dirge
and we did a lot of proofs
heady spear
It’s prolly the most formal class taught to undergrads
mighty storm
i had some great high school teachers and i hope i can find some professors who are similar
heady spear
Uni is just what you make it
Some professor will suck
Then you need to find a proper substitute yourself
Some will rock
mighty storm
well yeah i had some awful hs teachers too
heady spear
Most of them don’t want to be there
peak dirge
yeah, I just found the Wikipedia for this, ugh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel
viral mulch
My high school spread out Calculus 1 over a whole year. Most of the stuff people struggled with was manipulating symbols and the notion of functions. I had 1000s of hours of programming experience so I pretty much understood what a variable was.
mighty storm
ive already decided "no friends"
heady spear
They’re just there so they’re allowed to do research
peak dirge
he was more interested in the obscurities of set theory than anything
viral mulch
Oh god
Those people should not be allowed out of their rooms
They are the reason people think Math is no fun
peak dirge
I wasn't very interested in set theory, I just wanted to pass the damn class.
heady spear
tbf if you understand set theory, you also understand Boolean algebra and predicate logic
Set theory is prolly the most important part of undergrad discrete maths lol
peak dirge
I had to understand boolean algebra and predicate logic in a system architecture class and I enjoyed that.
viral mulch
A lot of the set theory formalism is gross.
sick tendon
discrete math was fun imo
heady spear
Same, but discrete maths built on top of it
viral mulch
When you get past the formalism you realize that what they're stating is just kind of intuitive
peak dirge
I had a bad professor for graph theory, wound up dropping the class before pandemic started really raging.
peak dirge
Computer science. My minor is mathematics.
heady spear
My worst prof was prolly the one I had for wave mechanics
Or special relatively, dunno which one I hate the most
peak dirge
I've already technically completed all the math courses I needed for computer science.
heady spear
Both of them fucking sucked
Failed wave mechanics twice, he literally didn’t teach anything that we were supposed to know
He spent 4 classes on the Doppler effect
viral mulch
@heady spear Both of those sound like awesome classes (assuming you have a good teacher)
heady spear
Out of 12 :))))
heady spear
Idk. He skipped all of optics because he didn’t like it
sick tendon
there can't be that much to learn about it... i learned the equations for it in high school physics
heady spear
That was half of the exam :)))
viral mulch
WTF?
sick tendon
i mean i'm sure there's more in higher-level physics about it but 4 classes? wow
heady spear
I remembered most of it from the IB tbf but I had zero motivation for that class
Then I got super sick and gave up
And I was at the hospital during the first retake lmao
viral mulch
You're all making me demotivated for college
sick tendon
nah I love school
heady spear
My Russian math profs is the best tho
sick tendon
applying for the master's program currently
mighty storm
how can you love school
viral mulch
Even worse - I'm starting out at a community college (due to medical reasons)
heady spear
He’s a fat Russian guy, Igor, he’s the best
sick tendon
I love school
heady spear
He would always freestyle his lectures and they were amazing
viral mulch
@mighty storm They teach math. They teach science. They teach music.
peak dirge
Calculus I was with Professor "I love set theory" and was pretty bad, managed to get a B though so maybe he went easy on me
Linear algebra was with my second-favorite professor, who was a quirky guy and someone I liked. Got an A, but the class was pretty hard.
Calculus II was with an awesome guy who gave a shit about his students. Got an A in the class and really felt good about myself. Calculus II is normally really hard, I thought it wasn't too bad but you definitely had to pay attention.
I told you about my discrete math and Calculus III already. 🙂
heady spear
We did calc 3 during “quarantine”, prof was dope but her lectures sucked
peak dirge
I wound up with a C in that discrete math course, so I at least passed it, though I did pretty bad on the final
sick tendon
I'm not a math minor so I only needed to take applied calculus, thank god.
heady spear
Because the struggled with the camera and mic and spent half the lecture adjusting those
viral mulch
@sick tendon Oh yeah I know that. I'm just a little worried about quality of instruction. Plus I have a full-ride scholarship so it wouldn't cost me anything to actually attend the local University (UofA).
peak dirge
I ask any of my math professors and they say the applied calculus courses are the worst, maybe our business school has really low standards.
sick tendon
I took a cs-centered discrete math so it wasnt bad
heady spear
And after the exam they required everyone to join in a zoom call to justify their answers in most online exams, which sucked
viral mulch
It's tough because the only Math class I've yet to learn is differential equations
heady spear
Delayed grades by two months and lowered them for nearly everyone
viral mulch
The linear algebra class is tought on an on-off basis and doesn't transfer to Computer Science or Math majors
heady spear
They did the calls roughly 2 months after the exams, so you had forgotten absolutely everything
viral mulch
I'm screwed because I already took the AP tests for Calc 1 & 2 and self-studied through Calc III
mighty storm
its 11 pm why am i tired
peak dirge
The awesome math professor I had for Calculus II is a great guy to talk to and I often go into his office just to blow off steam
He doesn't mind
viral mulch
@peak dirge That's awesome 🙂
heady spear
AP/IB covered all of pre-calc and calc 1 here
I didn’t need to attend any lectures for my first semester
mighty storm
yeah that was my comp sci and english teachers
viral mulch
I absolutely adore my Calculus I/AP Statistics teacher
She's my all-time favorite ❤️
heady spear
I also knew all of the first semester physics, so I skipped classes and got 95%
viral mulch
lol
heady spear
Was pretty happy about that because I could go full in during hazing
viral mulch
Oh yeah
heady spear
IB HL physics pretty much covered 1 year of engineering physics :p
viral mulch
Calc-based Mechanics at my school always conflicted with Advanced Choir
So I had to self-study 😦
sick tendon
my phys 1 prof was such a dork
viral mulch
because I could go full in during hazing
What does that mean?
heady spear
I had to take engineering mechanics last semester and I was so excited until the prof said he couldn’t teach online classes
sick tendon
no he everyone was cringing and laughing because it was soooo awkward
heady spear
Self studying that shit was awful
During the first month of uni I was sober for two days
viral mulch
Yeah. I remember having trouble with equilibrum for a couple days.
heady spear
I was arrested twice, and don’t remember half of it. Apparently the engineers taking hazing very seriously here
viral mulch
It took me a while and than it clicked - It felt so good
peak dirge
I was arrested twice, and don’t remember half of it
Folks, I think we know why PlotSquared is a mess now
viral mulch
Your friends are a bad influence
mighty storm
Arrested? for what
heady spear
Apparently some guy called me gay for making out with this dude and I got angry, and then I fought some cops
viral mulch
Making out with a dude kind of is gay
unkempt drift
fighting with cops will do it for sure
sick tendon
i mean but that is gay?
viral mulch
fighting with cops kind of is illegal
heady spear
I didn’t think so
sick tendon
maybe he just didn't know you were gay and he said "wow you're gay"
static badge
90% sure that's gay
heady spear
We ended up dating for half a year, he was cute
mighty storm
owo?
mighty storm
why did this chat turn 100% gay. im all for it but still, what happened
potent fossil
@viral mulch how about a guy
unkempt drift
its all city's fault
heady spear
There’s also some photo of me making out with the group leader, she was also cute, I don’t remember it tho
sick tendon
because he got arrested for being gay or something
viral mulch
@pimple No I mean I dated a girl for 2 years but she was a Mormon.
They have weird rules
golden gust
"This one time, at band camp" ~ Tech
heady spear
I knew a moron guy, he was a proper slut
unkempt drift
🤣
potent fossil
my boy tech got blue balled for 2 years
heady spear
Great dude tho
heady spear
Idk how serious Swedish Mormons are tho tbf
heady spear
Autocorrect 😦
worn pasture
hello i heard gay talk
viral mulch
Yeah she was beautiful but all our dates were chaperoned
mighty storm
lmao
unkempt drift
what does Swedish have to do with anything regarding Mormons?
chaperoned dates? wtf does that look like?
potent fossil
exactly how you think
viral mulch
It means there is an officailly assigned person who goes along with us
Plus I didn't really want sex
mighty storm
i mean im a Christian girl with very non-christian motives
heady spear
Because religion isn’t really a thing here lmao
potent fossil
making out aint all that tbh, have u tried sharing chicken wings with someone that u love
bc...
its better
viral mulch
They are so anti-alchool they do communion with just water
sick tendon
sharing chicken wings is kinda lewd tbh
mighty storm
chicken wing chicken wing chicken and macaroni chillin with my homies
potent fossil
we ordered our own m8
golden gust
nobody touches my wings
potent fossil
WE ORDERED OUR OWN
heady spear
I took adderall with a guy I dated, does that count?
sick tendon
communion with water??
potent fossil
it was perfect.
golden gust
that sounds lewd
viral mulch
@sick tendon Correct
unkempt drift
didn't Jesus drink wine? like do Mormons not think that happened?
viral mulch
They wear special underwear with a picture of their temple
sick tendon
why not just grape juice like everyone else who doesnt drink alcohol?
mighty storm
communion with water??
@sick tendon communion involves body and blood, i mean jesus can turn water into wine soo idk
unkempt drift
you making this up now?
golden gust
"if lost, please return..."
viral mulch
@unkempt drift We don't ask too many questions about their church
heady spear
They also believe some random American dude found ancient stone tablets in the middle of the us and that he talked to god
It’s not like they’re rational
viral mulch
^^^^^
potent fossil
mormonism is so weird
viral mulch
@unkempt drift No seriously.
potent fossil
it's christianity with some weird fake american religion added on top
american angels
unkempt drift
hey, at least its better than scientology 😛
sick tendon
^
heady spear
Barely
mighty storm
like the PluginConfiguration api?
heady spear
It’s no less cultish lmao
potent fossil
tHe AnGEl MoRoNi ToLd Me So
viral mulch
There was controversy in one of the 2012 debates because Mitt Romney showed his undershirt (which is technically a sin)
mighty storm
you know i was gonna go do something
viral mulch
The part of town we live in is like 10% Mormon
And like 60% of the people in Choir and Band are Mormon
potent fossil
His name is actually Moroni, so... like
am just gonna forget that i
the Angel Moron
mighty storm
"The test isn't that hard"
the test:
unkempt drift
what was the group called in Waco?
viral mulch
Once my choir teacher had to cancel the planned field trip to disneyland becausae it conflicted with a church pilgrimage
unkempt drift
something dividians
viral mulch
Mormons would rather reinact their exodus from Illinois -> Utah than go to disneyland
unkempt drift
cancelling trips to disneyland is among the worst possible things that can happen in life
heady spear
My networking teacher told me user agents are useful when identifying request origin, I said that they’re almost always spoofed and he said he said that they’re never spoofed and that it wasn’t a thing
Just thought you should know that
potent fossil
unkempt drift
"never spoofed" if something on the internet can be spoofed, it is spoofed
viral mulch
@heady spear Does he seriously beleve that?
mighty storm
meanwhile...
viral mulch
That's Academia for you
viral mulch
Just imagine what the Humanities must be like 
sick tendon
same
heady spear
Social democracy and all
sick tendon
i live in us and get paid to go
unkempt drift
https://discord.com/robots.txt
User-agent: nsa
Disallow: /
just tell him that this must then mean that this blocks the nsa from any discord site
mighty storm
lmao, unhackable
heady spear
I also argued that http is de facto stateful because of sessions, even if it’s de juro stateless, but he didn’t understand how sessions worked
And said that there’s no legitimate use for cookies
heady spear
He’s was a PhD candidate in computer communication
golden gust
well, UAs can be spoofed, ez
slim nymph
why you ban me tech
golden gust
and stupid sites do use them for feature detection BS, etc
mighty storm
see, my screenshot, literally 3 clicks
sick tendon
no legitimate use for cookies?
viral mulch
@slim nymph Excuse me?
slim nymph
yeah that url slug rofl
mighty storm
it bothers me that the colors on DiscordBot dont match role colors on discord
like it's just random colors
sorry, colours*
golden gust
blame dumcord
viral mulch
Is there something wrong with random colors?
golden gust
sounds like a rule e violation there
sick tendon
banned
unkempt drift
I changed it back, relax
viral mulch
Yeah technically
golden gust
goodbye
mighty storm
I love going to my cloudflare firewall rules, seeing 10 requests for being blocked for trying to access site/wp-admin/stuff
who do we got today
AS8075 MICROSOFT-CORP-MSN-AS-BLOCK
AS16509 AMAZON-02
oh amazon and microsoft, feeling frisky today
heady spear
My phone is dying D; it was fully charged when I got to the gym
I have to spam advertise PlotSquared more so I can afford getting a new one
The speaker stopped working too and the alarm hasn’t made a sound in half a year, since I updated the os
mighty storm
is it even worth it to report it to them
heady spear
Sponsor a poor citymonster near u
unkempt drift
what phone?
unkempt drift
Im still using my iPhone X, the first full screen display iPhone
heady spear
2% left, bye society D;;
unkempt drift
it still runs prefect for me
heady spear
Don’t wanna pay for the 11 pro
mighty storm
used to be jailbroken but i be needing nso
mighty storm
fun
sick tendon
i wish i knew what any of that meant
zealous wedge
mmm WordPress
mighty storm
basically they're trying to access (or brute force) a wordpress site (that i dont use) I block all requests to any pages that are /wordpress or /wp-admin
heady spear
Btw is there any non-sucky open source cms?
sick tendon
i'm graduating next spring with a bachelor's in computer science and i don't know shit about most of what you people talk about here
mighty storm
i dont know what ASN is, but it does help me identify who to go to to report
golden gust
automated service number
it's basically part of the IP broadcasting stuff, need an ASN number for it, blah blah
mighty storm
ah fun
heady spear
I just need something simple to make a website for IS
mighty storm
i just use bootstrap
unkempt drift
just write it in pure html
heady spear
Doesn’t have to be super fancy, I just wanna safe some time
golden gust
was gonna go for the meme "just grab a bootstrap template"
heady spear
Yeah well nty
golden gust
could always go for wordpress
sick tendon
is bootstrap bad
golden gust
Just, for security, you might wanna isolate it from the web
heady spear
I don’t dislike bootstrap, I just don’t wanna do everything from scratch lol
magic river
Has anyone ever made a modern version of my old ModMode plugin?
mighty storm
👀
heady spear
Been there, done that, about 9 million times
golden gust
there are literally thousands of bootstrap templates
magic river
Basically let mods have two accounts, it'd fake a quit, change their name, and fake a join. They had different player data, permissions, everything. As far as plugins could tell they were different players
static badge
ModMode?
sick tendon
should i get a vps to host websites?
mighty storm
All of my bootstrap sites are
<navbar />
<div class="container">
<div class="jumbotron">
content
</div>
</div>```templates schmeplates
magic river
It wasn't that hard to do, really, once you figured out what bits of the server to call
But you had to call into server internals so it needed to be updated every version and had some extra logic to teleport you back where you came from when you exited mod mode
mighty storm
i love finding random suspicious stuff in my analytics
magic river
It also had a vanish implemention built in to it for some reason that made sense at the time, don't remember why
Having them separate was messing something up and that was the easiest solution
(vanish is like 20 lines of logic though, the rest is event handling boilerplate)
mighty storm
how would you go about forking it? just fork, update api, fix errors, done?
magic river
Probably, although I'd strip out the vanish stuff and see if I could get fancy and make it keep your skin
Also it's so old it still calls ServerConfigurationManager
mighty storm
update apI
as in the deps? whats so sarcastically cute about it
well, i am making it sound easier than it is probably
golden gust
was more a "it's also using a server internals"
mighty storm
ah true
magic river
But the core of what it does shouldn't be too different, you probably just need to change the name of that class and the packet name for chat (or be sane and make it use broadcast instead of sending a chat packet directly)
mighty storm
any good cloudflare dark stylus themes?
zealous wedge
make it a fabric or forge mod :p
magic river
I think I'd make it call the method the server uses to clear your player when you die these days to ensure I properly clear things out on switch
Although keepInventory is a thing so I guess I'd still need to do that separately
zealous wedge
yeah - new versions of MC have gotten better about providing convenient common code paths for things
magic river
iirc before this we had a plugin that played by the rules and would try to serialize your inventory to a file, clear it, and just change your permission group
zealous wedge
ya bukkit serialization has not kept up with mc
mighty storm
im going through the eek and tedious process of moving my domain from one cloudflare account to another. dont worry, there's no way to do it automatically, has to be manual.
magic river
This was before scoreboards so I think we accidentally discovered this when trying to make mods have a colored name
mighty storm
Oh i thought all it did was change your uuid
magic river
It never kept up, that's why we stopped doing it that way 😛
It probably could just change your UUID now actually
This is from like 1.2, UUIDs were not a thing
It'd have to change your UUID to get the separate player data
zealous wedge
yeah - these days to serialize game objects they should really write a DynamicOps implementation for bukkit's config nodes, then xmap vanilla codecs to work in bukkit objects
magic river
DynamicOps?
zealous wedge
it's dfu's config node interface
unkempt drift
and he strikes again
magic river
https://github.com/Bukkit/ScrapBukkit/issues/15 and https://github.com/Bukkit/DevBukkit/issues/3 too
unkempt drift
last updated in 2012...
wonder if Dinnerbone will get a notification for that 😆 I doubt he has them turned on tho
mighty storm
zealous wedge
this spammer is targeting everywhere in the community
magic river
I didn't know I did, got rid of those
unkempt drift
and he's just going after wiz?
mighty storm
i just reported to github and moved on
magic river
Spamming every github project related to Minecraft it seems
potent fossil
its probably andrewkm
golden gust
for a small server, it's k
magic river
Why would pregenerating your map make you not need an SSD?
ocean moon
that seems like a generalization
golden gust
for a server with a few people running around, an SSD is defo needed
magic river
Like, if you said you never saved your map and generated chunks from scratch every time as needed, that'd make sense for no SSD
magic river
That's the opposite of what I just said
ocean moon
my bad
magic river
I mean literally if you never have a region file saved to your disk so there is no disk IO then sure, no need for an SSD
But if you have chunks and you want them to be saved and load again later, you want an SSD
ocean moon
alright i will definitely get an ssd
the dedicated server im thinking of purchasing has 1gbps network speed
im trying to run like 70 players
is 1gbps enough
ok
thank you
limber knotBOT
This is off-topic-paper chat? Just so I'm sure.
unkempt drift
yes
limber knotBOT
I can bitch about MC 1.16.1 and all the foibles here?
mighty storm
probably
limber knotBOT
Well... I won't bitch about my ex-wife and her new superstar b/f who really shouldn't touch my kid's computers. He's an IT moron. He also went Vandal on one of my kid's self built towns on our family MC server. Damn moronic idiot. That's how you build trust with a potential step child.
potent fossil
We're all IT morons in here.
limber knotBOT
Is anyone else experiencing issues with wandering traders in MC now?
I'd settle for simply... moronic myself. That's a catch all insurance policy.
Hey Aikar the video is dry. Informative... but very dry. It can lose an audience fast. That server configuration script on your website is.... well it reads like some kind of post-modern Lovecraftian spell to outfit the Old-Ones for the modern world. There has to be a better way!
vagrant niche
anyone here has a linode dark theme?
limber knotBOT
Can't you just lock up all that.... text into a single line referencing a library, script, or hope for a better way?
I just reminded myself how I've screwed up some stuff. Not so bad that it couldn't be fixed. It was fixed and we found ways.
vagrant niche
oh shit nvm they have dark theme
limber knotBOT
There has to be a..... Aikar.... script out there that can be auto-updated.
shell vine
what are u even on about
limber knotBOT
Have you ever tried to read Aikar's ultimate PaperMC configuration thingy?
I'm using it for my family PaperMC server.
I'm still in negotiations with one of my teens to have them drop their toon into a lava sea in the nether. That's not going so well. We're a cautious and conservative bunch. Too many times disappointed by failed plug-ins, bad gaming friends choices, and updates that don't fix legacy MC user worlds.
vagrant niche
@slim nymph unban Skrillax on #paper thx
limber knotBOT
yea, the flags
java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:Survi
vorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paperclip.jar nogu
yes, we know what they are.
vagrant niche
can u unban me there simple
limber knotBOT
Well... possible not everyone.
potent fossil
im not staff
limber knotBOT
It's all educational after all.
vagrant niche
ill do it myself
limber knotBOT
If your host doesn't let you edit jvm flags (those), then it's a bad host.
limber knotBOT
you made me login for nothin
There has to be a simpler way Aikar.
Please stop pinging him.
There is not a simpler way.
This is the way.
thx electronicboy ur da best
nano conf
I'm not sure what's so hard about JVM flags anyway. Those are copy and paste. Read to learn, but the essential bit in that is copy and paste.
If you "can't" (read: unwilling to learn), then stop running a server.
Hire somebody to do it for you.
potent fossil
I just don't know what "simpler" way he wants
fallen oracle
Wait did the flags update again?
limber knotBOT
on 4/25
limber knotBOT
Stop pinging him? Wow... I don't know how many times I've been over spammed in relevant forums regarding the failure of xbase retail terminal solutions. Regardless... if it's an issue. I'm sorry.
fallen oracle
Yeah, last change was 5/2
limber knotBOT
That's legacy crap. I'm always looking for a better way.
What's legacy crap???
A reference to my previous experiences being on the receiving end of support spam.
I suppose in the old xbase world everything was so much simpler.
I don't know what the heck you're on about or what drugs you're smoking
But, sounds like a good time
In IRC, shoot a ping once. It highlights.
It's old technology that use to be used in retail. It's a programming pararigm that was once championed by dBase, Borland, Clipper.
Some of those legacy technologies are still working. Like COBOL and CICS.
fallen oracle
Dammit Aikar, that push got me excited, until I read the update notes.
limber knotBOT
Ok. No clue what that has to do with you pinging the living shit out of somebody
But nice
fallen oracle
53.85%
limber knotBOT
I didn't think it was being in appropriate in retrospect to my own experience with technology.
I've experienced worse practically. I am sorry and I've stopped.
slim nymph
i dont mind pings
others do so people here get fussy about it though lol
if i had my way, everyone would get pings
limber knotBOT
well then fine, since he's ok with it then im over it
Every once an a while the "pings" inspire creativity and "want" to explore new paradigms to challenges.
slim nymph
but yeah java gc is meant to have tons of configuration options and is designed to only be messed with by experts, then end users just copy, accept, and leave em alone unless they too want to become an expert 😛
limber knotBOT
I can talk about how I'm happy Smurfs are not in Minecraft.
slim nymph
the Craft* prefix is called smurf naming
how all the smurfs end in Smurf, all the CB files start with Craft
limber knotBOT
I know there was a transition point where some kid came up with a great idea to force xBase tables to meet a certain criteria before being transitioned to PostgreSQL in an interpreted layer. I'm old enough to once believe that Codd's rules might never be met. Well... the world evolved and some systems claim 94% compatibility. That's been a long road.
slim nymph
@fallen oracle i did narrow down to 'where' the bug lies around for sky at least, and im betting the bug is also same general problem for block level that impacts villages and sea pickles too
slim nymph
no
fallen oracle
Then why didn't it appear when you removed that patch?
golden gust
my annoyance with pings is that they're harder for me to read because 10/10 eyes, but, the people who ping coz they think you owe them support, or ping literally every message or when they don't get a response in 2 seconds
limber knotBOT
I'm still trying to get one of my teens to buy the farm in the nether.
slim nymph
why is my damn clipboard broken for screencloud
golden gust
just, humans, grrr
limber knotBOT
I'm not asking for support. I'm just suggesting that there has to be a better way.
Some way of wrapping it all up in a gift package.
That's technically feasible.
potent fossil
i mean
slim nymph
i mean its coppy and paste, what more lol. but i do want to make a 'wizard'
to help people with specific deviations and differerent startup panels
potent fossil
i guess paper can make like a defacto start script? lmao?
that just...has it copy pasted?
slim nymph
@fallen oracle
golden gust
would be nice if there was like a community vetted sorta like "script package"
slim nymph
commenting out this line of code fixes it.... >_> at the cost of breaking something else but we dont need that!
golden gust
especially on platforms like macOS which is a pita
limber knotBOT
I'm hoping it can be reduced to the lowest common denominator of stupid parent who doesn't enjoy my legacy skill sets.
fallen oracle
So what will your approach be to remove that?
slim nymph
it is cloud 'copy and paste, dont modify anything but Xmx/Xms'
basically this code is what does light propogation, to neighbors. the .g says "hasLight" which cheks if a nibble is registered
fallen oracle
Ahh
slim nymph
what i think is maybe going on is the nibble is registered but not 'initialized' yet
limber knotBOT
Aikar... I'm sorry if I was bothering you. I didn't trust "copy" and "paste" reading your instructions. I'm old school. Paranoid. I really don't understand why garbage collection for Java can fail when it was promised it wouldn't. Didn't google invest several billion dollars into their custom approach to hi-jacking the Linux kernel and then wrapping it up with their vision of Java, contained and restrained.
I'm sure Oracle just loves Google.
slim nymph
it doesn't fail, it just doesnt perform at optimal
java gc is DESIGNED to be tuned
any app that doesnt have tuning flags is likely not running at peak performance
not every application is the same, so not every tuning can be the same
slim nymph
i wonder if mojang has a bug here:
it does this while loop....
then doesnt use j?
nibble array flat has a param that j would fit at, but its always 0
oh wait, its re-assigning nibblearray
thats what its ultimately doing
limber knotBOT
Aikar.... with respect. Is there anyway you might be able to simplify the process of server optimization to the lowest level our our common North American rudimentary sub-standard K-12 crippled education system? Possibly by wrapping up some mechanism to turn your text file into an editable GUI for potential PaperMC basic level Minecraft Mommy and Daddy types who want to play a game with their children?
slim nymph
um not really, how are you going to make a gui for a text file?
i dont see what your trying to ask for
limber knotBOT
I've made Gui's to manage configuration text files before serving up database servers.
slim nymph
server owners really just gotta learn about a start script
limber knotBOT
That's a high stattion.
slim nymph
but all your ultimately doing is Xmx/Xms, but as i did mention earlier, a "GUI" for that is something I'm wanting to do
limber knotBOT
sorry... a high station.
golden gust
the GUI is far too late in the process to be able to set flags
Well, do the stuff needed to tune the JVM
limber knotBOT
I'm crippled because I use to love how the old-paradigm for SuSE linux worked perfectly using YaST to mess with text.
At it's time... it was advanced.
YaST now is.... ugghhh... ah... meh.
Messing with text files before force feeding them to.... anything that required a compilation, a command line rpm -install, anything. It's a control layer.
I've found myself reverting into command line safety after retuning to the Debian paradigm.
Just not like they do in Gentoo. That's just.... not stable.
golden gust
oh yes
limber knotBOT
It's not as sexy after they pushed Mr. Robbins out.
He's a really smart man.
The technical paradigm was sound. It just lacks real dependency controls. It's too easy to screw things up.
slim nymph
waittttt i just thought of the best fucking client mod idea
something that reauthenticates you to MC and updates your session token every 12 hours based on saved credentials in install folder
so you dont have to reopen the damn game so much
someone pls link or make this
potent fossil
how long you playing mc 
olive marlin
There's re auth mods.
unkempt drift
already a thing
slim nymph
why cant it just use the data already in save folder
unkempt drift
incredibly useful for big mod packs
olive marlin
Aikar it's open source - i don't think they'd mind a PR. Or even an issue.
Idk what data is stored in the save folder.
toxic ember
will using rclone to paste a backup of the server onto a cloud drive while the server is running cause issues with worlds?
olive marlin
But why would it be able to use it? I assume it's a token which expires?
slim nymph
the vanilla launcher is able to refresh token some how
but multimc uses credentials to get a token
olive marlin
Inb4 vanilla stores your credentials plaintext in profile.
hard kernel
thanks ecat
slim nymph
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/auth-me looks like the fabric version
molten fable
Hi! On 1.16.1 i keep getting this error: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3654
golden gust
molten fable
But the server crashes...
slim nymph
that issue reminds me i need to go delete the async chunks config
molten fable
I am on v.74 will update now
slim nymph
we are waiting on mojang to hopefully fix it for 1.16.2 @molten fable but it shouldnt be crashing you
if you crashed, please paste the logs
golden gust
inb4 ptero killed it
unkempt drift
just download it.... 😈
potent fossil
nty
molten fable
sry
molten fable
hHHA
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
potent fossil
thx
molten fable
Thank you!
potent fossil
you say it crashed?
i see the addlight plugin puking on itself but that's it
and dragoneggdrop
potent fossil
other than that, no other info in this log
see if you have a file like hs_err_pid.log in your main folder (where the jar is)
if so, thats a jvm crash
paste that to paste.gg
molten fable
it restarted her [Tue, 7. Jul 2020 02:00:13 CEST INFO] DawkieTheHawkie issued server command: /sethome Fort
[02:02]
[Tue, 7. Jul 2020 02:02:31 CEST INFO] - TC:discord-partners(428812080955523084)
potent fossil
look for that hs_err_pid file
unkempt drift
yeah, dragoneggdrop is for 1.14
quasi valley
I posted "It's called 'Paper' by the way, not 'Paper spigot'" in EWG's discussion thread, and someone responded with
"And yet, it's spigot code renamed 'Paper'."
quasi valley
gudbai
vagrant niche
.spacex
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) A SpaceX Falcon 9 is scheduled to launch from KSC LC 39A in 1 days 8 hours 34 minutes
vagrant niche
Cool it works still
minor badge
hi lax
heady spear
@quasi valley i hope u responded with "And yet, Spigot is CraftBukkit code renamed 'Spigot'" smh
quasi valley
I actually wanted to do that lmao, but didn't want to get in an argument with a dum dum 😂
quasi valley
heady spear
everyone should have two accounts tbh
k done
o i need to switch out my banners
ah yes random redditor has knowledge, minecraft was rewritten in c++ and no one uses java bcuz java slow
quasi valley
sharp sentinel
Anyone know the best way to get md_5 to care about a Spigot API bug 😛
This one to be exact, https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-2869
heady spear
if ur a plugin author n u do this shit then plz stub ur toe repeatedly kthx
vagrant niche
there u go
heady spear
o that's ancient lmao
minor badge
@vagrant niche did i review it?
heady spear
he fixed my bugs in less than a day bcuz im sexy n stuff
sharp sentinel
Oh didn't realise you were X AE A-12 lol
minor badge
lax is son of kanye
vagrant niche
ye you did proxi
minor badge
wo
vagrant niche
It was my best review
minor badge
whatd i say
vagrant niche
I cherished every moment it was up
minor badge
you dont remember do u
sharp sentinel
I have like 50 spigot bugs in my backlog of things I need to look into, identify, and properly report
heady spear
@mossy vessel stop being a lurking bitch n fight me k
sharp sentinel
I estimate this'll take me 17 centuries with the rate at which Spigot issues are resolved
vagrant niche
There's a pic here somewhere if you scroll long enough
mossy vessel
Nah
heady spear
i hope ur random packages fall on u
sharp sentinel
Also some of these issues I was consistently mentioning back in ~2014
mossy vessel
Has been picked up this morning :^)
sharp sentinel
did you find out who it was from / what it was?
sharp sentinel
I'm still not convinced that it wasn't city in a box
heady spear
im not either tbh
mossy vessel
From some company doing plastic stuff for cars, so tells their website
minor badge
https://owo.whats-th.is/4CpJTfY.png i wonder when my birbs were given a bump
vagrant niche
ur welcome
minor badge
@static badge for future record, u can go to ur own profile on spigot, replace the ID with the user u want to report, then append "/report" to the link
now report everyone :D
vagrant niche
Report spotted for reporting proxi
sharp sentinel
I've never heard someone refer to leaf as anything other than leaf before, this is weird
It's like a whole new world
heady spear
leafy!!
vagrant niche
Shutup Sadmonstreet
minor badge
leafy couldnt report me apparently lol
have gotten my profile on hidden so reporting is hard 😎
vagrant niche
Used to have a report link on my signature until someone cleared it 😡
minor badge
recreate it
quasi valley
you can share it with all of us!
golden gust
ez
minor badge
yes i just said how to do it smh
limber knotBOT
quasi valley
🔥
vagrant niche
There, fixd
slim nymph
yeah pure didnt like that link lax 😛
heady spear
can dis dude like just be on the internet? would be v great
slim nymph
man this hanna show on amazon is good (tv show from the movie). wanna keep watching but gotta sleep
slim nymph
the report link
vagrant niche
Lol it's a legit report link
What's not to love
I'm guessing my signature was deleted because of the obnoxious flashing ad
The link was just collateral
vagrant marlin
big moment
slim nymph
well pure specifically said the report link was not ok
vagrant niche
Where
slim nymph
in voice
vagrant niche
Pure can suck it
slim nymph
@serene bolt ^
heady spear
golden gust
inb4 4 year ban
vagrant niche
You know those glowing sticks that you make to make it glow right?
Break
What id
If
You inject it to your penis
minor badge
please stop existing lax
vagrant marlin
lax go brr
heady spear
I broke one once and it stunk up my whole school
vagrant niche
Your penis will glow
minor badge
:(
heady spear
it smells worse than proxi i bet
vagrant niche
Like Dr Manhattan
heady spear
so that should tell you how awful it was
minor badge
jokni please make your plugin stop existing thanks
vagrant marlin
lmao its a big meme
slim nymph
what is this plugin
vagrant niche
Races
vagrant marlin
for looping all players on every join
vagrant niche
With gender support
vagrant marlin
5/5
minor badge
i meant the tab plugin
minor badge
or at least use some actual build tools for it
i'd assume you have hand in it as you're in the screenshots of it alone
minor badge
oh hec
well then we're back to square -1 cause nez has his head in his ass when it comes to improving the code
vagrant marlin
cringe
minor badge
ok
vagrant marlin
imagine improving code
grand pewter
oh god, never do that
vagrant marlin
plotsquared v4 on 1.14.4 and fawe-46!
heady spear
ok sry ill continue on ps v6
vagrant marlin
best combination
heady spear
we should make v6 a separate resource
vagrant marlin
and make it cost even more
heady spear
and sell it for €15.01
vagrant marlin
require every ps v5 user to give 1 cent for the upgrade
vagrant marlin
even better 
sharp sentinel
Does spigot still require 3 free projects per every paid one lol
heady spear
wat, isn't it 3 free to post premium at all
vagrant marlin
you have to pay to submit a resource
heady spear
not per resource?
heady spear
p2 v6 is gonna be lit tho
im gonna switch to we for non-fawe block setting so ppl can report issues to eh instead of us
sharp sentinel
Wait it doesn’t already use WE API?
heady spear
it uses it for random shit, not for block setting n shit
heady spear
but I stole the queuing shit for another plugin I worked on and used WE 7.2 there and it worked great, so I'll prolly do the same in PlotSquared 🤷♂️
it uses FAWE when available tho because that actually makes a difference in terms of speed
thooo during my testing with early 7.2 it caused the server to oom due to chunk loads n shit, which was a bit annoying. Dunno if that was WE or Paper 🤷♂️
sharp sentinel
But if you use the WE API, doesn’t it just do FAWE stuff when it’s available?
heady spear
FAWE overrides the entire block queueing system and uses its own stuff instead
sharp sentinel
Yeah, but it’s API compatible right?
heady spear
Right, but there's no reason to use the plotsquared scheduler for plot clearing, etc, when FAWE does all of that on its own
sharp sentinel
Fair
heady spear
whereas when using WE (or just Bukkit), we figure out what blocks should be set (async, because we have the information available already) and then just schedule chunk updates
which is why it'd make sense to just use WE there, because we know the chunk is loaded and we know what blocks we want to set, so it's ezpz
it also makes a tonne of sense as we're already using WE block (states) everywhere, so we have to convert from WE to Bukkit anyway
what I'm most interested in is switching side effects depending on where in the plot we're updating the blocks. If it's underground, then we can lighting, etc
sharp sentinel
Ideally once we’ve got the next stage of the side effects system in that’d work even better
heady spear
we're not going to rush this update by any means, so I'm interested in seeing what you end up doing ^-^
I mean everything will be better than using the Bukkit API to set blocks, but we have this no-nms policy in PlotSquared lol
sharp sentinel
Yeah worldedit is significantly faster than the Bukkit API
Especially when there’s a lot of plugins - as worldedit won’t fire physics events by default anymore, which is like 90% of time spent on many servers
heady spear
yeah that's nice ^-^ we won't push anything related to 7.2 until it's out of beta tho
but I'm trying to get rid of as much of the platform specific code as possibly in preparation for adding sponge support back
unique quail
Hey there I’ve got a question about items: when u have an item and put it in a chest but forgot where that chest is, is there any way to locate this chest with the specific item inside it?
olive marlin
If you have coreprotect / log block / prism then you should be able to.
slender jay
quasi valley
no
obsidian jackal
why?
quasi valley
@sharp sentinel 
mental meadow
Please read the rules, no server ads @obsidian jackal
mental meadow
?
sharp sentinel
Oof I'm not fast enough apparently 😛
latent valve
<------- usually slow run away
mental meadow
He pinged me yesterday and I wasn't fast enough, that's why I have to redeem myself now 😄
obsidian jackal
?
quasi valley
and you did 😂
obsidian jackal
this is my real minecraft name Hugo_Faber
mental meadow
reminds me of a book we had to read in school
obsidian jackal
im in school on my laptop protending to study
quasi valley
too many Hugos in old german literature 
obsidian jackal
im real name is hugo
worn ember
HugoSystemCore
obsidian jackal
mi
mental meadow
The book was about a father unknowingly dating his own daughter and dying, such a fun story
10/10 would read again
spice finch
😳
spice finch
negative iq ad
worn ember
alabama.mp4
quasi valley
👢
spice finch
worn ember
some people dont learn do they
quasi valley
^@mental meadow you just left a single second too early 😂
mental meadow
.-.
worn ember
inb4 usernames are locked too cuz of people like this
spice finch
not a problem to change global name
worn ember
dont give them ideas