almost 100
#general
grand pewter
give this man a review
worn ember
lol
grand pewter
hey pure lmao same
mighty storm
no thanks i dont want to be blasted with 1 star reviews
serene bolt
I prefer just sitting on github and being platform agnostic
grand pewter
i've been doing plugins for like 5 years or so but i only uploaded my first resource like a year ago
finite wave
Iβll give u 1.5 then chew
zealous wedge
i've not uploaded anything to spigot
worn ember
bruh moment
grand pewter
but idk im getting better about it i think
zealous wedge
mostly cuz i haven't released anything new for bukkit since sponge happened
grand pewter
spigot isnt quite as bad as i thought for posting public stuff
fallen oracle
We support Sponge too!
mighty storm
also how do I get my birthdate updated
fallen oracle
And when Hanger is done, we'll add support for that too
worn ember
pop, idk what you did, but its working lmao
zealous wedge
oooh what do the sponge ones look like
grand pewter
my recommendation is powerful π
serene bolt
olivia, support email or report your own account. mods can't do it, md5 would have too
mighty storm
ah
grand pewter
jk its probably a coincidence
fallen oracle
I think the Ore API is still broken
worn ember
maybe cuz its in my sig now
zealous wedge
rip
mighty storm
i did my year as a few years off i think
fallen oracle
It's saying no downloads
zealous wedge
also lol i'm spigot user id 19260
serene bolt
I'm id 7
mighty storm
can I also report an account for being inactive so I can take the name
worn ember
no
zealous wedge
i guess there were a lot of users even by july 2014
serene bolt
don't think so olivia
worn ember
donate and change it
grand pewter
i probably would have been in the first hundreds if i had made an account when i started using spigot
worn ember
grand pewter
but im not much of a forum person
mighty storm
wow mbaxter is 4
fallen oracle
zealous wedge
i was in the double digits on spout
finite wave
Oh no itβs karen
zealous wedge
lol yeah i have at least one resource
serene bolt
my user id has broken at least 2 resources that I paid for because of their garbage DRM
grand pewter
are you going to post pex 2 on spigot or paper
mighty storm
Why exactly does XF go by incremental numbers publically for everything
serene bolt
they did not expect people to have a single digit user id
zealous wedge
paper if it exists
worn ember
DRM?
grand pewter
digital rights management
zealous wedge
and that's when you remove the resource until they fix it π
mighty storm
dungeons rnd mragons
worn ember
hm
serene bolt
yes, many paid plugins implement crap DRM
fallen oracle
One thing that annoys me in Ore is their API is case-sensative
fallen oracle
So "Plan" returns 404, but "plan" doesn't.
worn ember
or is that just spigot
grand pewter
yeah pure it tells you something about the code when someone programs with those kinds of assumptions lol
zealous wedge
like i'm against drm in the first place, but if you can't implement it properly you shouldn't be allowed to publish plugins
grand pewter
single digit user id is valid and person just ignored it
serene bolt
yup
grand pewter
kinda big rip
serene bolt
I was actually kinda mad it didn't work, I thought he had purposely blacklisted my user id (because I've had that happen before)
zealous wedge
lol what
grand pewter
reminds me of a similar bug in essentials we fixed recently where apparently someone thought that 3 or less letter usernames are not valid for /msg
serene bolt
there was a plugin dev a long time ago who didn't like that all staff members could download his resource and use it if they really wanted too
grand pewter
dunno who put that in there
finite wave
Lol
worn ember
zealous wedge
as if every single staff member doesn't know how to use a decompiler
or just download it without the transformation?
serene bolt
yeah lol
grand pewter
lol thats funny
the only premium resource i have is because i was manually added to it
worn ember
people are dum
grand pewter
but i dont even use that resource
worn ember
i wanna make big mc bucks so i'm working my way up to premium resources
serene bolt
farmlimiter is the only resource I paid for that I actually felt as worth the value
worn ember
but i want them to be at least decent lol
grand pewter
mc plugins is not really a good way to make money lol
but im at the point where i have enough plugins on my profile to do that too i guess
just no ideas for any π
mighty storm
i dont think id ever own a premium plugin, i make things free because i want more people to enjoy it. im not gonna sell people garbage, not gonna force people to donate, and if they like it, they still wont donate anyway so why bother
grand pewter
^ that too
worn ember
i mean, if i'll only make something paid if i think its worth the money
grand pewter
if i made one itd be freemium
zealous wedge
yeah like for pex all time i've gotten maybe a few hundred in combined curse points + donations
people don't donate
serene bolt
I have soooo many curse points from bukkit dev
mighty storm
Like I usually open source my stuff, for some stuff maybe I'll remove the pom but leave the code os
vagrant niche
paperspigot
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@vagrant niche [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
worn ember
i had someone donate $20 and then order a commision for $60 lol
finite wave
Nice pic lax
grand pewter
yeah lol i had someone do something like that a while ago dark
or at least
someone asked if they could donate to me
but then before they did they asked if they could hire me
and i was like "probably no"
worn ember
xD
grand pewter
and then turns out they wanted a plugin that already exists so i just pointed to it
mighty storm
even commissions i dont even ask for a payment, i let them decide the value
worn ember
"you cant afford me hun"
mighty storm
and then turns out they wanted a plugin that already exists so i just pointed to it
@grand pewter happened to me earlier lol
grand pewter
more like that + i dont really feel like working for someone for something like that
especially for what they wanted made
was kind of a PITA project to do
stiff yarrow
mc plugins is not really a good way to make money lol
@grand pewter
grand pewter
easy for you to say nossr
for 99% of people you arent making more than a few bucks on it though
shell vine
how much u make nossr
mighty storm
ive probably received $10 total in donations throughout my life
stiff yarrow
how much u make nossr
@shell vine more than I ever would have imagined tbh
worn ember
what does nossr maintain?
mighty storm
so everything I do is for fun
grand pewter
nossr is MCMMO
worn ember
ohh right
mighty storm
co
worn ember
x was slain by <3<3<3<3<3
finite wave
grand pewter
as in, one of the cornerstone plugins in bukkit
that literally everyone wants for some reason
π
finite wave
Ye
grand pewter
milk it nossr
zealous wedge
it's been around for almost forever
mighty storm
everybody always be wanting 4 plugins
WorldEdit, McMMO, Essentials
worn ember
i also love 2 shotting people in diamond armor with my fists
stiff yarrow
mods I make for games tend to be popular
I made a few mods for Don't starve that have 100k active subs each and each mod only took me a few hours to make
mighty storm
funny how there's all these premium plugins but have you ever seen a premium mod?
worn ember
you could get a mod made for you and then distribute it
stiff yarrow
if you really want to make money just run a minigame network 
worn ember
more like op factions
grand pewter
yeah servers seem to make more than plugins
mighty storm
implying people would actually stay and play
grand pewter
even though servers dont donate to the plugins that make them money
its kind of a weird thing if you think about it
but that's greed for you π
serene bolt
that's exactly why premium plugins are priced the way they are
mighty storm
thats why you have a backdoor command that permanently disables the plugin that only you can run 
(joke because probably against spigot tos)
grand pewter
yup
premium isnt evil
its just that its sad donations dont just work
we live in a less than ideal world
finite wave
Make an infinite trial plugin
serene bolt
hell, people run offline mode servers and don't even own the damn game and make a shit ton of money from it
mighty storm
a winrar plugin
finite wave
Yes
fallen oracle
I'm telling you man, Only Plugins would be a huge hit.
grand pewter
lol
stiff yarrow
server with barely any pop seem to print money and I don't get it
imagine how much hytale makes
π
mighty storm
Ive just completely given up on expecting to people to a) use and b) actually enjoy the stuff i make
grand pewter
yeah lol nossr
even a small server makes more than youd make with a plugin
even a modestly sized one
worn ember
all hytale server lists domains were sold out minutes after its announcement
grand pewter
if its only with donations
so like yeah premium isnt evil its just like, some people with the DRM and stuff go a bit overboard
mighty storm
it's true, ive made more on my server with 0.1 active players than i have anywhere else other than my job
stiff yarrow
DRM makes no sense tbh
grand pewter
yea
stiff yarrow
you gotta have a mental illness to put DRM in a plugin
grand pewter
like you are managing rights for something that isnt your game
stiff yarrow
DRM doesn't even work
grand pewter
you are building on top of someone elses IP
worn ember
but thats how i add support for paid plugins
mighty storm
the good ol cracking sites added nullers long time ago
so, just useless
not that i'd know
fallen oracle
That's why you charge for support
mighty storm
see i dont like that
what i'd do is have free community support, and if you wanted support directly from me, then pay? if you want?
fallen oracle
I used to do that but I couldn't justify the demand for that anymore.
fallen oracle
We provide support for basically everything
kindred storm
sometimes it is a worthwhile challenge to take on the mountains of messages from distressed plugin users who have no idea what they're doing
fallen oracle
But for our premium plugins, we have special channels.
fallen oracle
Yeah, and you probabaly connected your discord and SpigotMC account to get access to that channel
rose lion
Had my plugin for 4 years, 4k servers using, made a total of 10$ from donations on it, kek
fallen oracle
Yeah
Our process to connect the accounts is super simple and easy. Takes like 30 seconds.
mighty storm
yee it was
mighty storm
it's honestly simple tbh idk how
fallen oracle
So, yeah, we have a select set of premium projects that we have and then in general plugins and whatnot, they ask about anything.
Some people ask about it, yeah.
We have a huge dev community too in HC.
Enough to where we had to split up dev channels so they wouldn't get flooded.
worn ember
smh why cant stuff just work when i use it xD
void void
Man I could make a shit ton off plugins/mods if I wanted to, luckily I have morals
cosmic raft
void void
Damn u morals
grand pewter
hey dark eye
mighty storm
@worn ember how are you setting it up?
grand pewter
i really hate setting up jenkins so i just use other peoples lol
fallen oracle
grand pewter
like try codemc they have a free one where you can ask for an account
fallen oracle
Yeah
worn ember
im just make a freestyle project
rose lion
Barry is awesome
worn ember
and paste the github link and then the git link
fallen oracle
Can input number of days, etc.
worn ember
and its not happy
fallen oracle
Barry does so much stuff it's honestly amazing.
mighty storm
for source code management?
fallen oracle
Hmm?
potent fossil
did barry make that graph?
mighty storm
talking to dragon
potent fossil
or what is that
fallen oracle
No it's a graph
mighty storm
this is what i have for mine
worn ember
i just wanna autobuild stuff
potent fossil
i can see that it's a graph, ty
worn ember
hmm
rose lion
The profile stuff Barry makes is the best part imo
fallen oracle
worn ember
the tut i'm following it doesnt provide any credentials
fallen oracle
PlaceholderAPI eCloud^
mighty storm
you dont need credentials since it's public
worn ember
yeah
mighty storm
the tutorials are probably really outdated too
potent fossil
Awesome. This is what happens when you light off fireworks in cali. https://i.imgur.com/qovNVcF.png
fallen oracle
Yeah, funnycube did an amazing job with Barry. Since cube is an artist, he took his artist skills, and implemented it into code to generate stuff.
mighty storm
you may need credentials though
serene bolt
I'm sure bardygamer can help you setup jenkins
mighty storm
bombardygamer?
fallen oracle
Profile pics generate based on roles, and some other stuff.
serene bolt
that's the one!
potent fossil
i mean its probably not too different than we do with mcbanners glare
golden gust
i mean
potent fossil
just need sexy sprites lol
fallen oracle
He can even generate stuff for you
golden gust
you just gotta not suck
rose lion
fallen oracle
It's a little bit of yes and no, simple.
I don't keep up to date much on Kotlin stuff anymore
worn ember
cat, you know how to setup jenkins right?
fallen oracle
Since I use both actively
potent fossil
in what way is it not
is he not using java.awt
because if he is
its literally the same
fallen oracle
It's nodejs
mighty storm
EW
potent fossil
oh, i see
worn ember
poof, gone respect
fallen oracle
Yes in the way that we have premade images, but no in the way that he actually msthmathetically generates some of the photos
mighty storm
got it all good on mine
potent fossil
thats not artistry it's just math π
worn ember
yeah idk its just complaining about my repo
golden gust
first build failing is basically a rite of passage
worn ember
why does everything break smh
grand pewter
im joking
worn ember
lol
serene bolt
everyone makes a random tp plugin, but who's the real winner
grand pewter
everyone and their mother has a random tp plugin
worn ember
what url did you give in for git?
mighty storm
git@github.com:DarkEyeDragon/RandomTeleport.git
grand pewter
iv tested a lot and dark eyes is at least the fastest iv seen i think
golden gust
ur dum
mighty storm
thats an ssh address so you may need credentials but maybe not
worn ember
well that also does nothing
lmfao
could it be cuz i dont have git installed on the server?
worn ember
or does jenkins install it
golden gust
check the build output
grand pewter
would probably be good to install git and java
mighty storm
he cant eve save it yet
golden gust
git is generally installed on the system, tbqh
golden gust
how did you fuck up so bad that there is no console output for the build?
mighty storm
so maybe git isnt installed?
serene bolt
"error performing git command"
mighty storm
it failed again
worn ember
yeah that explains a lot
golden gust
gfdi ded
mighty storm
Failed to execute goal on project [36mrandomtp[m: [1;31mCould not resolve dependencies for project me.darkeyedragon:randomtp:jar:1.5.0: Could not find artifact com.griefdefender:api:jar:1.0.0-snapshot in bungeecord-repo (https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/snapshots)[m -> [1m[Help 1][m
worn ember
i mean, i'm expecting jenkins to do everything for me
give me a break
oh you gotta be shitting me
local jars
serene bolt
griefdefender, premium plugin 
worn ember
huehue
mighty storm
oh i dont even know how local jars work on jenkins
serene bolt
I sure hope so, or you're gonna get some pretty shit dev support
worn ember
yeah installing local jars is gonna be fun
mighty storm
youre free to use my jenkins, i already got a couple of plugins on there
golden gust
jenkins just runs the thing as the jenkins user
void void
Why would you need grief defender in a random tp plugin?
golden gust
So, can ez su over to that user and do whatever
serene bolt
prob so you don't tp into peoples claims
worn ember
yeah
golden gust
check if they have a public maven repo, etc
void void
Fair enough
fallen oracle
They do
mighty storm
:|
worn ember
so i just installed the jar locally
fallen oracle
Lol there's a dev API but it's a blank wiki page
worn ember
pretty sure theres something racist on there in dutch
iirc
or something not so nice
ok it worked now lol
mighty storm
ayy
fallen oracle
Here's the repo URL for it https://repo.glaremasters.me/repository/bloodshot
worn ember
bloodshot? lol
golden gust
i just have a nexus repo
fallen oracle
I mean, that's the dev of GD.
golden gust
makes it easy to just upload stuff where people failed to have a maven repo
fallen oracle
Yeah, it's so nice.
worn ember
unkempt drift
has someone tried typing @everyone on the spigot server?
im assuming so, but still.
mighty storm
ill go check
worn ember
yes
unkempt drift
π
worn ember
@void void wtf dont ping me
mighty storm
it looks like it's discordsrv which is smart enough to block that, though idk
void void
SHIET
unkempt drift
you can format role mentions so they form, but if mentioning them is disabled on the server, they don't mention, just look formatted
<@&role_id>
mighty storm
this man is doing #help-channel [his message] before every message, do people not know how discord works?
worn ember
lol
mighty storm
jenkins got rid of "slave" and "master" for the settings but still havent fixed this...
worn ember
if there was a slice of bread for every gender i'd have a sandwich
mighty storm
the "thoughts and prayers"
serene bolt
because people were really offended by the use of those terms in the developer community, clearly
mighty storm
I mean usually im neutral towards it but "master" and "slave" are kinda sus
serene bolt
yeah i agree
worn ember
now they're kinkshaming
serene bolt
but i think whitelist vs blacklist is dumb
mighty storm
yeah that is fine as is
serene bolt
i never even thought about that in a remotely racist context ever until the drama came up
worn ember
i didnt with master/slave tbh
rose lion
It's in other languages too, it's not about color it's about night and day (the origin of the words)
mighty storm
where was that twitter thing
vagrant niche
if there was a slice of bread for every gender i'd have a sandwich
Here's a big fucking sandwich, bitch π
serene bolt
clearly not a genders plugin user
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not using the genders plugin
mighty storm
i cant tell if genders is laughing at or with the whole multiple genders thing, either way idc
serene bolt
it's lax so the answer is probably what you think
mighty storm
i dont know lax well enough, i assume it's ironic
serene bolt
ultra omega super troll, but in a way that isn't low iq or low hanging fruit, it's some real top tier stuff
vagrant niche
wiz, pure is being toxic, please ban.
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it's sort of amazing how such a low iq tier being like lax can put out such hier iq bait
willow juniper
worn ember
.leaf
limber knotBOT
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mfw the grammatical errors jesus
void void
auto_tree_burn.exe
worn ember
its ok, you'll be competent one day
ok so i managed to get it working
now i just need to figure out those local dependencies
worn ember
mighty storm
rsync?
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serene bolt
lmao
mighty storm
@minor badge
golden gust
mfw
fallen oracle
Holy crap
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I should report that review
serene bolt
I'm genuinely surprised that hasn't been reported by anyone 
mighty storm
now that is some top tier bait
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wait how do I report reviews
fallen oracle
I had people get in trouble for the content in the reviews on one of my plugins a few years ago
mighty storm
clcik report
void void
hi
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god damn it
worn ember
irc staff bad
mighty storm
what even is that number
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how can I report a user who has a hidden profile
fallen oracle
Suicide hotline
worn ember
you cant
mighty storm
ah
serene bolt
you can have a hidden profile?
fallen oracle
Yes
void void
HI
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ya
worn ember
loophole lmao
serene bolt
I guess you.... cant? lmao
fallen oracle
Report the resource
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fuk sake
worn ember
LOL
void void
lo
fallen oracle
That's what I do, at least.
worn ember
airtight system
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hold on I have an idea
fallen oracle
That or slide a $20 into pure's DMs and send him the reviews to remove.
serene bolt
I kind of don't want to delete proxis review so I'll let another mod handle that :P
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there
serene bolt
god damnit leaf now I have to deal with it
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kek
fallen oracle
Kinda salty tho. Pure said he would remove some reviews and they are still there.
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serves u right for being an active moderator
mighty storm
how i have NO reports on spigot, here's how:
- dont use spigot
- dont play minecraft
- dont own minecraft
- im wanted for hate crimes in 156 countries so if i go online i risk my location being found
worn ember
md warned me once cuz i wrote "kiss your sister" on his profile
mighty storm
π
void void
md_5 aussie?
worn ember
yup
void void
lel
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md69 is aussie
mighty storm
nice
worn ember
hmm so how do i make jenkins actually publish jars?
mighty storm
you mean archive artifacts?
mighty storm
yep, go to post build actions, add "Archive build artifacts"
worn ember
ah hot
mighty storm
I just do "Files to archive: target/*"
sorry
target/*.jar
so it archives every jar file
worn ember
ok this is annoying, half the messages are translated and half arent lol
mighty storm
english? or not?
worn ember
half are dutch and half are english :p
mighty storm
wait so do you want all dutch or all english
worn ember
english is fine for me, cuz the dutch translations suck ass
mighty storm
ah lol
still cape
mighty storm
Alabama?
serene bolt
fake
worn ember
mighty storm
Have you built yet?
worn ember
i triggered a manual build thingy
mighty storm
Ah
vagrant niche
damn snowflakes
mighty storm
Unless it's built once it doesn't know it will exist yet
worn ember
and where do i find that?
nocturne agate
Is there a way to play videos in minecraft?
mighty storm
boy do i got the plugin for you
nocturne agate
what is it?
worn ember
fallen oracle
I watched the bee movie in MC last night
mighty storm
where's the target!
nocturne agate
wtf how send me the plugin
worn ember
poof
fallen oracle
It's not for public use yet.
mighty storm
wait, did you add a build thingy?
worn ember
uh
nocturne agate
oh ok when will it be out?
mighty storm
mighty storm
im in
worn ember
do i need to install maven too? xD
mighty storm
It might already be installed
check what maven version says
it will list installations of maven
worn ember
theres no mvn command at least
mighty storm
on the server?
worn ember
yeah
mighty storm
oop well youll probably need that :p
golden gust
yes, you'll want maven installed
worn ember
hmm theres no maven build step for me tho
mighty storm
youll need maven integration plugin
worn ember
well that would explain a lot
nocturne agate
For the video player plugin do you also hear sounds?
worn ember
pretty sure he was joking
worn ember
oh lol
nocturne agate
can you link it?
fallen oracle
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/hjenmb/a_friend_and_i_made_a_project_that_allows_you_to/
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(DiscordBot) A friend and I made a project that allows you to play movies in-game! : Minecraft - 338 comments, 15,637 points - LichtHund1, 5d ago
mighty storm
but the sound thing, isnt that with a resource pack
rose lion
Yeah
fallen oracle
Yes, but we are designing a system to make it real-time deploy a resource pack for the video you play.
mighty storm
nicee
rose lion
I gained 5k karma from that post damn
mighty storm
someone's gotta continue sethbling's legacy...
worn ember
thats cool
cunning raft
internet points 
worn ember
lmao and i thought building on my pc was slow
nocturne agate
yo can you release a beta or something?
mighty storm
im just surprised they didn't delete the post
mighty storm
luckily it was wholesome big chungus 100 keanu reeves enough for them
fallen oracle
Cause we're changing how it works daily.
nocturne agate
oh ok
worn ember
does maven check like every repo for the dependencies?
fallen oracle
Yes
limber knotBOT
Does anyone here use: KeepItems.jar with 1.16.1? I'm attempting to use v1.3.2 and have read that it works with 1.16.1 supported spigot. I'm new to the non-vanilla Java MC server thing. I''m also experiencing "Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running #####ms or ### ticks behind". I've also experienced a MC Java game crash, with the server seeming to hang, using Mineways to check out the world and nether maps. I'm running the PaperM
heady spear
might as well rename #general to #minecraft-chat-video, because that's about all it is π
limber knotBOT
C server on, non a dedicated Windows 10 desktop machine environment with an i5 with 16gb of ram. Sorry about the post. I thought I'd toss it all out there at once.
worn ember
ah yes, nice docs
mighty storm
Not possible. Maven checks the repositories in their declaration order until a given artifact gets resolved (or not).
mighty storm
well, once the deps are installed it stores it in the local repo
fallen oracle
That's why I just route all of mine to the same repo
worn ember
it caches, that i know
but the first build is always so slow
Glare so what was i supposed to do with the griefdefender repo you sent?
or well bloodmc his repo
fallen oracle
Well, I think the API artifact is in there.
With gradle, you can specify which dependencies come from which repo
worn ember
in maven it just goes over all cuz yolo apparently
mighty storm
people really trying to convert me to gradle π©
worn ember
same
serene bolt
good, because gradle is superior
mighty storm
gradle needs like 534 files
worn ember
i like maven more tbh :/
mighty storm
okay, well, 4 but still
cunning raft
maven is xml
worn ember
but gradle is definitely faster
mighty storm
see imo, maven is better for compiling, but gradle is definitley better if you need to do more than just compile, like forge you have the server/client to test the mod for example
mighty storm
but like i said i dont like having 5 files just to build
mighty storm
why not just the build.gradle
worn ember
you usually dont really need to touch those tho
cosmic raft
Because including the Gradle wrapper is sane
serene bolt
you only need the build script if you really want too
cosmic raft
It avoids needing someone to install Gradle locally
serene bolt
but you want the wrapper
potent fossil
thank you for this @fallen oracle https://i.imgur.com/vJN47ZD.png
mighty storm
hold up
potent fossil
oh god it crashed mc
rose lion
oh
cunning raft
whatt he fuck
rose lion
don't ruin our creation
worn ember
wtf am i looking at
worn ember
ok fuck this i'm ditching support for paid plugins
potent fossil
surprisingly nice quality
limber knotBOT
No KeepItems.jar plugin users here?
serene bolt
oh does the hologram video thing support stuff that isn't youtube now?
worn ember
noice
potent fossil
no
mighty storm
ice
serene bolt
oh lmao
worn ember
xD
mighty storm
claimed probably, not striked if it's not public
worn ember
you download and upload a video faster than my maven builds
potent fossil
ive been telling them to just use youtubedl for a while tho
they ignore me
wouldnt need all this videodownloader abstraction shit
requires jna tho
youtubedl supports like 400 websites
worn ember
i made a yt downloader once, shit broke so often cuz yt keeps changing their video streams
mighty storm
ye it's great
fallen oracle
That requires you to have youtubedl installed.
potent fossil
just...ship it with the plugin?
worn ember
fat jar it
potent fossil
its not big
worn ember
5gb plugin
potent fossil
its a single executable
golden gust
theres like several dozen plugins with the same name, etc, also, #paper-help for help
pulsar wigeon
youtube-dl is a single 8mb executable
golden gust
does that also include a python runtime? coz, oofers
not to mention stuff like ffmpeg
pulsar wigeon
downloaded as needed at runtime
potent fossil
ye, then would just need to write a single jna interface and ur done
boom support all them sites
heady spear
i dreamed about simple trying to fuck up my life so now I'm very angry
pulsar wigeon
and yea the executable i think includes python runtime already
potent fossil
good
worn ember
ffmpeg 
cosmic raft
mighty storm
π
worn ember
heady spear
would have been a far better dream
potent fossil
i just wish i had the sound for this now
how did yall make that mf res pack for this
mighty storm
2 kinds of sites, 1 where whenever i revisit im always logged out, and 1 where i logged in once a year ago and it never logged me out
worn ember
@fallen oracle hmm doesnt seem to be any griefdefender on there from what maven can resolve
i'll just drop support for it lmfao fuck that
potent fossil
mighty storm
easiest choice there
limber knotBOT
This is the PaperMC IRC support channel I hope? Did I end up in the wrong place?
mighty storm
my boy tomathan scott
potent fossil
join paper-help for help
limber knotBOT
#paper-help
mighty storm
god i miss the pre-discord days
golden gust
this is paper general, land of spam
limber knotBOT
Sorry... I just followed the instructions from the website. I hope you, your families, and all associates are healthy and well. Thanks for the re-direct.
potent fossil
np
potent fossil
this is honestly surprising quality https://i.imgur.com/iZWGkOG.png
tired heath
potent fossil
oh thats not what i wanted but whatevere
sharp sentinel
You expect Spigot to do something non-legacy?
mighty storm
i think 3.6 has reaction and edit/deletion support
im not 100% sure
gotta spin up a server and see
sharp sentinel
Wait reactions in IRC?
cunning raft
are they in the standard?
mighty storm
theres a rough standard
the problem is there's so many clients and servers that it's impossible to really have a basis
ancient bolt
IRC standards are basically "stuff mIRC does, then some other random things sometimes"
mighty storm
mirc and irccloud evidently
worn ember
hmm ok, so how does one increase the build numbers of the archived artifact?
cunning raft
paint
mighty storm
@worn ember like have PLugin-version-bBuild.jar ?
golden gust
- #paper-help
- Don't ask to ask, just link them
cunning raft
another randomtp plugin
worn ember
the one and only
mighty storm
I do this in my plugin, https://github.com/ChewMC/TransmuteIt/blob/master/pom.xml
set the version to version-${build}
worn ember
funny you say that
mighty storm
then specify the -Dbuild= arg when building
limber knotBOT
who's a multiworld support
mighty storm
oh my god it's him
serene bolt
does yours handle the nether properly darkeye?
worn ember
yes it does
limber knotBOT
the only one and true wildtp that does RANDOM WORLDS
serene bolt
nice
worn ember
no more nether roofs
limber knotBOT
and yes I handle vanilla nether
mighty storm
randomtp? you mean /spreadplayers?
worn ember
but do you have claim support
unkempt drift
Oh no.
mighty storm
account 20 minutes old
unkempt drift
Thisβll be good
serene bolt
paper staff member we need assistance
unkempt drift
No rush tho... this is entertaining. π
worn ember
F
mighty storm
uh oh
mighty storm
oh thats who it is
cunning raft
citing bible verses
serene bolt
nah someone has been harassing wiz for months upon months, I'm sure it's them
mighty storm
got pinged on irc too
worn ember
he's gonna be like 
cunning raft
with wut perms 
mighty storm
doesnt need perms, already banned
limber knotBOT
another reason why IRC better
serene bolt
was literally nothing exciting at all, just dumb
limber knotBOT
ya
mighty storm
i love how this is in the default example config lol
mighty storm
sweet!
worn ember
is there a way to ditch the "original" jar?
orchid pelican
ye simple thats that sweat sweat 144i
mighty storm
wdym ditch? like get rid of the -original.jar?
mighty storm
not really easily, all I do is execute shell, rm target/original-* in jenkins, probably possible in the pom
golden gust
just copy the patched jar out and use that, basically
Oh, you mean for shade
derp
I think you can get shade to not do that
golden gust
wtf did you do
worn ember
i dont have a build arg locally lol
mighty storm
borg
golden gust
we use a maven pl0gen for that
worn ember
oh?
worn ember
where exactly?
mighty storm
fart command fart command
golden gust
yes
Not 100% sure how it works, but, basically uses the git hash if it can get it
somehow uses the build number passed in somewhere
mighty storm
god dang this modules config is extensive
golden gust
ah
git tag -a $BUILD_NUMBER -m "Jenkins build $BUILD_NUMBER"
So, maybe that's how it does it?
worn ember
ok im confused what file im supposed to look at <.< its 5am lmao i should probably just go to sleep
the sun is coming up
golden gust
but, yea, I have no idea how it actually all works, apparently
But, /basically/, it doesn't mangle itself when there is no build number, somehow
short sail
So I was looking at a plugin on spigotmc, pretty standard stuff. I have never been turned off from a plugin so fast
mighty storm
leave 1 star review "works 100% on paper, breaks constantly on spigot, would love some more spigot support" or smth lol
short sail
XD
What I think it means is we do not support paper, if you use it do not come to us for support
But still
worn ember
dun work on bukkit
mighty storm
someone using chrome 41 on a windows xp computer just tried to sign in to my site but it failed?
worn ember
real hackerman
mighty storm
username: admin
hazy veldt
Just a robot, not too much to worry about as long as your username isn't admin
mighty storm
wasnt even a php site
probably some brute force attempt
someone's name is admin but they dont have any perms Β―_(γ)_/Β―
unkempt drift
Which plugin is this?
mighty storm
plugin?
unkempt drift
mighty storm
oh
hazy veldt
Maybe just set up a way to block anyone with too many login attempts.
limber knotBOT
there's some people that version check for spigot
specifically
made a post on one such plugin, guy couldn't fathom the idea that spigot could be forked
only CB and spigot existed in his universe
mighty storm
lookin like mc 1.16
orchid pelican
they just need the water spigot provides
limber knotBOT
and if it don't work on CB, well then it must only work on spigot
hazy veldt
But spigot is a fork...
grand pewter
lol that spigot-only poster is a joke
mighty storm
but can it be forked?
grand pewter
imagine not supporting craftbukkit too if you support spigot
mighty storm
Anyway, inspircd-3.6 supports reactions and message threading, doesnt look like you can edit/delete messages yet
grand pewter
and also explicitly not supporting paper
mighty storm
cosmic raft
oh my inspircd
mighty storm
feeling inspired?
hazy veldt
mighty storm
what is moist
hazy veldt
Forge + Bukkit
mighty storm
ah
hazy veldt
Why would someone not support paper with that much market?
unkempt drift
CatServer?
mighty storm
meow π±
hazy veldt
Also Forge + Bukkit iirc
unkempt drift
TacoSpigot was only 1.8.8 right?
worn ember
ye
limber knotBOT
Nope
worn ember
limber knotBOT
It was updated all the way up to around 1.10
Actually 1.13: https://github.com/TacoSpigot/TacoSpigot
mighty storm
I love the dip in paper servers during the week of 1.16
zealous wedge
lol someone in the fukkit discord tried to claim that taco was a fork that mattered
worn ember
cat, turns out theres "profiles" in maven i can probably use
i'll look into that later tho i need some sleep
mighty storm
idk why this bothers me so much
golden gust
yea, profiles work too
hazy veldt
Bungee?
golden gust
issue with that chart is that it doesn't factor in bungee
worn ember
that includes bungee servers
mighty storm
no no
worn ember
yeah
mighty storm
offline - green
online - red
limber knotBOT
There were only two patches that mattered:
worn ember
bungee servers are offline big brain
limber knotBOT
mighty storm
why is offline GREEN
hazy veldt
Oh, the coloring sucks
limber knotBOT
And the arrays for blockstates: https://github.com/TacoSpigot/TacoSpigot/blob/master/Paper-Server-Patches/0008-Use-arrays-for-blockstates.patch
golden gust
it's probs just auto color
zealous wedge
red is a lucky colour
worn ember
maybe you just see wrong
mighty storm
im tellin yall im makin my own stats
worn ember
its the dress all over again
viral mulch
The hopper patch was eventually merged into Paper
mighty storm
callin it cStats
viral mulch
so it didn't matter
worn ember
what happend to aStats?
zealous wedge
yeah, everything worthwhile gets upstreamed into Paper
well bstats is run by bastian
worn ember
name it pStats
zealous wedge
call it ostats olivia
mighty storm
well, what would happen if md_5 abandoned spigot and worked on paper
zealous wedge
lol that's not going to happen
vestal jasper
God I love watching people back into pumps instead of pulling forward into the empty pump next to them. Literally 3x as much effort for 0 gain.
zealous wedge
who would want to work with md
mighty storm
well duh, but what if it did π€
potent fossil
instead of making your own stats you could just PR and fix the colors but πΈ π΅
worn ember
imagine pr'ing
hazy veldt
Didn't spigot have to pick up craftbukkit development?
vestal jasper
Yes
mighty storm
ye?
hazy veldt
It would probably be similar to that then
zealous wedge
well they didn't have to
mighty storm
CraftBukkit added Plugin support to Minecraft and exposed some additional server settings. After it was abandoned by the BukkitDev team, SpigotMC took up development of it, to keep it up to date with the latest versions.
zealous wedge
they chose to revive a dead platform
mighty storm
is that right?
zealous wedge
the bukkit team tried to shut down bukkit because they thought upcoming game changes could not be effectively accomodated with its design
hazy veldt
Well paper isn't killing the platform either
golden gust
i mean, they weren't wrong
zealous wedge
well paper saw what happened last time π
tired ice
is there anything better than worldborder for pregen
golden gust
material api best api
zealous wedge
it's either you do what you can to evolve bukkit, or you shut down and someone will come along and do it worse
worn ember
Sounds like a plan
mighty storm
is there anything better than worldborder for pregen
@tired ice you dont really need pre-gen anymore if youre using 1.16
chunks load just fine with no lag anymore
worn ember
Lies
tired ice
mainly for dynmap
worn ember
Chunk gen is still as expensive as it was before
worn ember
Haven't noticed that at all
slim nymph
well thats your problem π
tired ice
ive noticed its pretty quick now
hazy veldt
What was Taco's purpose?
tired ice
i just want to pre gen for dynmap since its pretty heavy
worn ember
I think worldborder is still ur best shot
mighty storm
I mean im with Aikar, chunks loads blazingly fast, no tps drops
tired ice
alright thx
worn ember
must be my brain lag then Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
golden gust
pregen plugins all have the same caveats of gen not being ultra mega fast, not really a solution for that, it's more just around the extra pretty util they offer
just, if you use WB, use a fork of it
viral mulch
@hazy veldt Taco was just a place I could screw around with code that wasn't accepted into Paper
Anything seriously good that I came up with got accepted eventually
tired ice
any good forks you would recommend?
tired ice
i meant of worldborder
potent fossil
why