general

[left swift]

They baited u into playing

[twin lagoon]

ecc, andrewkm

old eco server

sponsors of spigot

[spice finch]

why not paperspigot

[limber knot]

@spice finch [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[spice finch]

PaPeR*

[void void]

paperspigot

[limber knot]

@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[void void]

yikes

[sharp sentinel]

Nah I didn’t play, I logged on, noted I didn’t have the developer rank I had like 8 years ago, saw nothing at spawn, then logged off 😛

So if anything I just confused people

[void void]

How many players did it have 😮

if its still running from 8 years ago

[sharp sentinel]

Idk didn’t really look

[hallow brook]

paperspigot

[limber knot]

@hallow brook [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[hallow brook]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[left swift]

Gross

[sharp sentinel]

Can y’all stop spamming paperspigot

[hallow brook]

Paperclip

[spice finch]

could u stop

[hallow brook]

🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[void void]

trying to build from source

[left swift]

Anime pfps 🤢

[void void]

what am i doing wrong?

oh wait

that makes sense i dont think i have the jdk installed

[regal shuttle]

Is paper a combination of bukkit and spigot?

[spice finch]

nope

spigot + additions

and spigot is bukkit + addons

so paper = bukkit + spigot + addons

[regal shuttle]

Oh ok

[quick pasture]

hmm, it seems like hex colors don't like the console on my macbook, is this a known bug? In-game the colors display nicely, but in the console it doesnt recognize the &x... format

[cunning raft]

yeah that's a side effect

[rose lion]

More like paper = vanilla + bukkit + spigot + addons
If you're going by that comparison

[quick pasture]

so this is vanilla side effect?

or

[carmine hinge]

gg zfs

copied my space world over to the new server that has zfs compression

[left swift]

Lol

What server did u end up going with

[carmine hinge]

phoenix nap

$125/mo for 960gb ssd nvme, xeon e-2288g, 64gb ecc ram

& amazing support apparently

[frail lynx]

any recommended minigames plugins?

[twin lagoon]

.g minigame plugin

[limber knot]

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[frail lynx]

that was fast

thx

[left swift]

2016

[twin lagoon]

it's not like minigames have evolved since

[left swift]

The golden age

MD2

[void void]

i have paper api

[twin lagoon]

k

[void void]

do you?

cause im pretty sure you will have to build it from source

[cedar spade]

No matter how dumb you think you are, remember that a certain widely-used chat plugin synchronises on a local variable

[twin lagoon]

what chat plugin

[cedar spade]

Good question

[olive marlin]

EssentialsX?

[void void]

essentialsx is like the paper version of essentials

[hazy veldt]

But spigot is still supported

[azure flower]

How essential is essentials

As like 90% of the threads i see have someone using some variant of it, but i've never gone near it

[quasi valley]

at least 1

[stiff yarrow]

Essentials just bundles a bunch of useful stuff in one plugin

[twin lagoon]

without overdoing it like some other plugins

cough CMI

[hazy veldt]

Essentials basically makes it so you can install 1 plugin for most of the really basic server stuff instead of multiple

[azure flower]

so if essentials is at least 1 essential, how many essentials is essentialsX?

[cedar spade]

10

[azure flower]

makes sense

[void void]

X = 10

[iron zephyr]

Free FTP software for mac?

[void void]

k

FileZilla

[iron zephyr]

FileZilla makes me a little nervous, because they've had weird stuff bundled in the past

[void void]

FileZilla

[iron zephyr]

https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/8t9dku/unverified_binaries_fetched_and_executed_with/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Unverified binaries fetched and executed with Filezilla version,... : sysadmin - 231 comments, 833 points - Shadowjonathan, 2y ago

[hazy veldt]

I've never had issues with filezilla

[twin lagoon]

cyberduck on macos

winscp on windows

[iron zephyr]

Ooh, haven't heard of Cyberduck

[void void]

google.com

[iron zephyr]

I'll check it out, ty

[void void]

lol

[iron zephyr]

Can you blame someone for looking for personal recommendations? :p

Especially after being burned by FileZilla in the past - who can you trust, really? 😆

[twin lagoon]

filezilla suuuucks

[void void]

no u

[twin lagoon]

though cyberduck isn't the greatest either but it does the job tbh

[limber knot]

winscp

[twin lagoon]

winscp is windows only

[limber knot]

yes

[twin lagoon]

though it does work surprisingly well in wine

[limber knot]

windows best OS

[void void]

deny's on windows

[hazy veldt]

Don't start this Robo

[void void]

robo 5 people disliked your thing

windows

[iron zephyr]

Oh no

[void void]

best os lol

[minor badge]

i use the openssh sftp command line tool :) works amazingly

[void void]

u get that in filezilla too

[waxen panther]

i dm all my files to proxi and give her my ssh keys

[limber knot]

wut thing

[void void]

but as a gui

[minor badge]

yes

[twin lagoon]

hi broccy

[minor badge]

sftp is literally the name of the app, DENY

[waxen panther]

hello

[quasi valley]

🥦

[iron zephyr]

Proximyst, how do you do that on mac?

[minor badge]

open a terminal and run sftp

[unreal quarry]

I just use gnome's file manager, Nautilus, and bookmarked my sftp server with auto login via ssh keys :3

[minor badge]

if it works, macos has one, but i kinda doubt it

[waxen panther]

been queuing for 30 mins

[twin lagoon]

gnome's file manager is what i used on linux

works great

[void void]

what are you queuing in?

[twin lagoon]

rust2b2t

[waxen panther]

[iron zephyr]

Kk ty

[waxen panther]

yuck

[void void]

whats that?

[waxen panther]

rust is a game

nothing to do with mc

[twin lagoon]

rust is an anarchy minecraft server

[void void]

i swear it was a programming language

[twin lagoon]

it is

[minor badge]

@waxen panther wanna meet up in rust xx

[waxen panther]

mfw Rust isn't made in rust

[quasi valley]

queueing to start coding

[hazy veldt]

It's old metal

[waxen panther]

what if we put our sleeping bags next to eachother

[twin lagoon]

[minor badge]

i'd invest in a bed for you ;)

[unreal quarry]

Rust is that game everyone starts out naked, and if you are new to a server everyone kills you on sight

[twin lagoon]

[waxen panther]

Yes

[serene bolt]

then you get raided the second you leave your PC to go do something

[waxen panther]

this server just reset though so hopefully I wont get naked off spawn

[serene bolt]

come back and do it all again

[waxen panther]

I was off for an hour yesterday and I got raided lol

love to see it

[fallen oracle]

That's why you don't log out.

[minor badge]

just high qual your base bro

[void void]

i mean if you do something near spawn what do you expect

[waxen panther]

my team are gunna quit our jobs and take 20 minute naps at different times

we weren't near spawn

[peak matrix]

wtf jake is here

lol

[minor badge]

yes

[peak matrix]

big ltt member

[minor badge]

we've got most of the big names

[peak matrix]

how cool is that

[left swift]

We got small names too

And weeb names

[peak matrix]

like us

[left swift]

And german names

And gamer names

And band names

[void void]

i mean everyones a big name somewhere

[minor badge]

and no-names like @waxen panther 😎

[peak matrix]

yes my mom loves me

[void void]

haha

[waxen panther]

sorry im not smart 😔

[peak matrix]

i love you kebab

[left swift]

Ur smart in ur own way

[waxen panther]

[minor badge]

he really isnt

[void void]

at least you have street smarts

[peak matrix]

im smarter than my cat at least

[left swift]

Prove it

[peak matrix]

cant

[waxen panther]

wow proxi

[peak matrix]

i lied

[minor badge]

ily stinkolai

[vagrant marlin]

How essential is essentials
every plugin that says that they are essential or must have, arent those two at all.

they might be a nice addition

[peak matrix]

idk which one of you is the girl

[waxen panther]

no you dont

[limber knot]

none

[peak matrix]

oh

[serene bolt]

the girl

[peak matrix]

gaycouple

[waxen panther]

theres a female in chat ????????

[peak matrix]

pridemonth

[waxen panther]

quick

[peak matrix]

i mean i have a sister

[minor badge]

mfw

[left swift]

Go get ur sister

[minor badge]

i might have to do like aurora with pronouns tbh

[peak matrix]

shes 19

[limber knot]

no that's how proximyst expresses dumness

[minor badge]

but then i'll not have a pfp when talking from irc

[limber knot]

one of many ways

[peak matrix]

why are so many bots are here

go away 😦

[limber knot]

RoboMWM u stink

[left swift]

Wow

[limber knot]

u r da bot

[peak matrix]

go away!!!

[limber knot]

if griefprevention is so good where is griefprevention 2

[waxen panther]

robomwmwmwmwmmw

[left swift]

Discrimination against LGBT and bots

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/QsUy7Uc.png

the only bot i c here is u

[hazy veldt]

They're talking in irc, discord just says bot because discord stupid

[void void]

haha

[peak matrix]

ok but why

[void void]

no because the messages are being carried over by a bot

[peak matrix]

irc is like 2003

[left swift]

That has nothing to do with discord being stupid

They're boomers

[limber knot]

irc has higher uptime than discord, just saying :)

does this look like 2003 https://i.imgur.com/YvSsOy2.png

[void void]

sounds like a you problem

[peak matrix]

ok but who cares

[waxen panther]

I have higher uptime than discord

[left swift]

I hope so

[void void]

so discord sleeps 8 hours a day?

[limber knot]

we do when we wanna chat and discord is down lol

[peak matrix]

its awful

[void void]

discord console mode enabled

[left swift]

One second of downtime and its permanent

Scrapyard for us we go

[limber knot]

IRC does what it's made for really darn well, no other way for it to have survived literal decades

[peak matrix]

haha you cant embed images

noob

[limber knot]

whatre u talking abt https://owo.whats-th.is/6Qb3MK4.png

[left swift]

IRC survived for decades cause tech boomers

[limber knot]

clients? wut r those?

[peak matrix]

ok but skype is better

[left swift]

U ? Me all u want its true

[limber knot]

all i no is how 2 use a web browser hurdurrr

[waxen panther]

its not true dou

[void void]

skype is rubbish

[serene bolt]

the bait tho

[limber knot]

@broccolai come here xx

Skype is ok

it's electron remake is stoopid tho

[azure flower]

I miss the era of skype when you could edit other people's messages

[peak matrix]

ok but can you use irc on other servers

i dont think so

[azure flower]

and hold cat while typing to get a cat animation

[limber knot]

wut

[void void]

on irc servers, yes

[limber knot]

yes u can

[void void]

lots of communitys on IRC

[peak matrix]

ltt?

[void void]

meh

[peak matrix]

.

[left swift]

Can u put ur cat on the keyboard

[limber knot]

a lot of programming communities are on IRC, and that's what most of us are tbh

[peak matrix]

i can make a html website

how bout that

[void void]

my programming community isn't on IRC

[limber knot]

can you use colors in dumcord?

show me your rainbow robo xx

[peak matrix]

can you?

[void void]

IRC can

[peak matrix]

discord cant

[void void]

taste the rainbow

[limber knot]

wee

https://owo.whats-th.is/9rqPJ7d.png

[peak matrix]

and youre sending messages on discord

so whats the point

[left swift]

Discord text is cancer enough dont need eye rape colors too

[peak matrix]

^

[left swift]

Spring green

[limber knot]

we're sending msgs on irc actually

a bot is sending them to discord ;)

[azure flower]

is this a bot or a webhook

[peak matrix]

imagine those 10yo kids speak in rainbow randomly because they dont know the color codes

[limber knot]

a bot which uses webhooks

[void void]

dude, some people prefer IRC, it's superior in some ways. you can keep on dumcord

[left swift]

It's the krusty krab

[azure flower]

how can you survive on irc without a dedicated button to send obnoxious gifs

[peak matrix]

add me on skype losers

[limber knot]

you can get that in a client, jim

[peak matrix]

🅱️🅱️🅱️🅱️🅱️

[limber knot]

🅱️

[void void]

tada

[waxen panther]

[limber knot]

shut UP brocc

[waxen panther]

no

[limber knot]

wtf

[waxen panther]

[peak matrix]

do you have a dedicated button to gift nitro? hah

[limber knot]

we don't need nitro to do basic tasks on our platform sorry

[void void]

why would you want to support discord

[peak matrix]

i never did

got terminated 6 times

rip og early2016 acc

[limber knot]

think i've been nitro since 2017 or smth lol

[void void]

yep

[peak matrix]

imagine spending money for

for nothing

[limber knot]

i like emotes 🤷

[peak matrix]

thats gay

[void void]

https://tenor.com/sZlz.gif

[waxen panther]

it's $5 who tf cares lol

not a big deal at all

[limber knot]

being gay is in fact nothing wrong so please learn some manners :)

[azure flower]

I do wish like 1 person on the dev team joined a server with more than 30 people in at some point

Really feels like none of them are

[void void]

being gay means being happy dumbass, look in a dictionary

[minor badge]

all of my mutual servers w Z have 30+

[azure flower]

Like that unread dropdown they added recently is completely unusable for me, as I mod a server with 125k people

[minor badge]

same with aikar

[peak matrix]

sry im homophobe

[void void]

aikar can i join ur minqwaft serva

[minor badge]

ooh you meant discord dev

[serene bolt]

yikes

[void void]

mineqwaft serva

diamondmsn

[azure flower]

yeah my bad vas vague

[minor badge]

you're not welcome here as a homophobe, albert

[void void]

for me the unread thing is nice, i have most servers muted

[azure flower]

I just have to survive with a constant red dot

[peak matrix]

are you racist?

[waxen panther]

if a discord developer joined a big server they'd be hurled insults and spammed the whole time lol

[void void]

^ not unlikely

[minor badge]

go clown somewhere else

[stiff yarrow]

kickan time

[void void]

yep he's gone

[minor badge]

thank u nossr

[void void]

[waxen panther]

and why would a discord developer have to interact with a community on their account / time? they're paid to code not to talk to dumbasses all day

[minor badge]

lmao

[waxen panther]

oh he's gone

upvote

[azure flower]

That's fair, just a shame large servers don't seem to get considered much with what they add

Still need a bot to do anything about tenor gifs

[minor badge]

one of these days they'll add an option to let us decide the default server DM privacy settings (read: get rid of the stupid fucking DM bots)

[waxen panther]

Discord trying to add every feature bots have would be pointless and junk

[azure flower]

God yeah those bots

We had to add a channel dedicated to reporting those things to make our general somewhat usable again

[minor badge]

hi guys have u seen my minecraft server at suckmyballs dot com?? here are a thousand features for it and btw it's not even released yet!!!!!

[twin lagoon]

hot

[waxen panther]

hot

[azure flower]

I joined one of those servers out of morbid curiosity before

Like 20 at everyones when they launched along the lines of "weve fixed the lag now"

[serene bolt]

"ClearLagg was installed, server should be better now everyone :)"

[minor badge]

i joined one, the staff just went "haha it's not us, someone's giving free advertisement :)" to literally every other join

[limber knot]

guys, lag free lag free major selling point gotta put it in the banner

[hazy veldt]

Haven't gotten any dm ads since april

[minor badge]

i get them fairly often but that's due to being a dev on a mc server

[stiff yarrow]

if you haven't turned your DMs off yet you crazy

[minor badge]

so they spam bot the hell outta the server """for free haha"""

dms are off in paper and just about every other server i'm in

[azure flower]

Dms are always off for me due to my general dislike of talking to people when it's not on my terms

[stiff yarrow]

I only do support via public chatrooms

DMs are toxic af

[limber knot]

I've had to turn them off, would be annoying opening dumcord once after a couple months and some idiots r trying to ping me via dm

[minor badge]

true that, but i have players down to like 7 so no can do

[limber knot]

I've already disabled on spigot, got a dm like once a week

[azure flower]

My favourite people are the ones who start 1 second calls if you don't immediately respond

[limber knot]

and I wish I could disable on bukkit but at least there it happens less often

[minor badge]

i block those jim lol

[limber knot]

haven't had that yet lol

[stiff yarrow]

tbh didn't even know you could turn them off on spigot

[limber knot]

and I wouldn't even notice with it closed anyways

the moment I found out you can I disabled it lol

[serene bolt]

my inbox on spigot was closed for years, just for me to open it back up and receive the same crap I closed it for

[limber knot]

I tried re-enabling it once, and immediately got more DMs

ya

exactly that lol

[hazy veldt]

What kind of spam do you get on spigot?

[stiff yarrow]

I get like 2~ friend requests a day on discord from randoms

[fallen oracle]

I just don't respond to DMs on Spigot anymore.

[pulsar wigeon]

turn off friend requests

[limber knot]

lol https://i.imgur.com/nS7qgCr.png

[serene bolt]

lol

[limber knot]

https://i.imgur.com/QZmsC82.png

[hazy veldt]

Is he even seeing that you replied?

[serene bolt]

I would share what 90% of my inbox is, but I might get threats of ""legal action ""so I probably shouldn't

[spiral garden]

""""""""legal action""""""""""""

[hazy veldt]

Just blur out the name

[spiral garden]

gdpr!!!!

what they wrote is PII

[limber knot]

no don't think he ever posted in the discussion lol

[heady spear]

surprised we don't have more by now

[vagrant marlin]

no work 1.17 crafbukit??!?

fix bug IS!

[azure flower]

not compatible with the snowier snow

[spice finch]

1.17 wen

[vagrant marlin]

heck

me fund bug

no snow snow

[pulsar wigeon]

hi city thanks for being our sugardaddy

[vagrant marlin]

😳

[heady spear]

yes im sure that money made yall super rich

[vagrant marlin]

7 japanese yen

[heady spear]

but we kinda felt like yall could use some pizza or something

[vagrant marlin]

i want a pizza

ill get a pizza

[spice finch]

thick cats :0

[void void]

catts

kitay

[cedar spade]

Hangar cats when

[left swift]

Sounds like the name of a musical

[cedar spade]

Cats but it's a crossover with Disney's Planes

[vernal moth]

An way too good in league right now to stop 😂

[cedar spade]

League of Hangars

[vernal moth]

Nah

League of Draven

[left swift]

U think in those movies where the people are cars or planes that car manufacturers are like religions or do you think they reproduce

Ford is the great creator in the sky

[vernal moth]

All hail the Tesla gods I guess

[left swift]

The Great Manufactor Wars

Fords attacked Chevy sacred land

[vernal moth]

BMW invaded Wolfsburg 😂

[left swift]

Someone should make a movie like that

Something serious like religous conflicts but cars

[vernal moth]

its way funnier with sports teams

[neat smelt]

when i unzip a .zip under linux with a lot of maps, it dosnt unzip the regions.mca files

any guesses why?

[limber knot]

wrong unzip command?

[neat smelt]

unzip maps.zip

but probably found the issue already

[steel pulsar]

does 'unzip' have some sort of recursive mode

sorry as a professional i am only familiar with tar

the superior archive

[neat smelt]

i zipped it on windows with 7zip

and apparently i need to unzip it with 7z on linux aswell

[twin lagoon]

uh

no

[golden gust]

7zip is weird as it lets you create zip files using stuff which ain't really "standard"

(tbqh, I'd also just use tar for region files, their data is already compressed)

[neat smelt]

yeah, i didnt know that

[hazy veldt]

You could also just upload the files uncompressed if they aren't that big

[steel pulsar]

yea map files usually arent large

[neat smelt]

2gb upload total, with a bandwitdh of 1,4 mbit/s

yeah no thanks, i'll pass

[hazy veldt]

Yeah, I'd compress that

[neat smelt]

compressed was about 330mb

[hazy veldt]

There's a 7 zip tool for linux command line, forgot what it's called

[golden gust]

I mean, they're already gzip'd, so god knows how you'd be pulling off mega space savings

🤷‍♂️

[neat smelt]

🤷‍♂️

but its working now

so meh

[hazy veldt]

Guess if it works then there's no reason to question how it worked

[golden gust]

The rule is to always question

but, don't touch

No touchy, no breaky

[neat smelt]

:D

[void void]

mo touching mo breaking

[steel pulsar]

7z tool for linux is p7zip

[rare herald]

imagine being shit on by intelli
@twin lagoon

💩

❤️

[twin lagoon]

hi intelli

[rare herald]

Sup lol

[heady spear]

lmao did u go in here n search ur name

[rare herald]

IRC pings me on username mentions

[waxen panther]

chad

[heady spear]

chode

[serene bolt]

https://papermc.io/forums/t/about-my-behaviour/3903

[quasi valley]

o no

[vernal moth]

is that the guy from voice chat who was talking 24/7?

[waxen panther]

hahahahahah

yeah

[serene bolt]

yes lol

[waxen panther]

he also made 6 pr's to change a readme

^ for the same change

[azure flower]

oh so that explains the pr I saw full of "YOU UPDATED THE SUBMODULES AGAIN" comments

[pulsar fox]

[twin lagoon]

i would like to see BBG get unbanned

papermc is getting stale now

[quasi valley]

I think you need some sleep michael

[twin lagoon]

i get more than enough sleep wtf

[quasi valley]

just go to sleep anyways

"i would like to see BBG get unbanned" pfff

[twin lagoon]

papermc general is dead already

we need someone to sauce it up

[pulsar wigeon]

not that my opinion means anything, but he seems like an annoying kid making an honest effort

unlike some other straight shitposters who got unbanned

[merry talon]

wiz talking about shitposters

[pulsar wigeon]

sweepy ur literally just like discount leaf atm

[cunning raft]

https://tenor.com/TYLY.gif

guy on the forum submitting a ban appeal be like

[twin lagoon]

sounds like paper-help

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean to the contrary he got tons of attention already

[ancient bolt]

in fairness when hasn't sweepy been a discount leaf

[heady spear]

everyone should be more like me

I'm loved and adored by everyone

[golden gust]

who the fuck are you and the fuck you doing in my swamp?

[potent fossil]

i delved into wikipedia last night and my god do they deal with some stupid fucking bullshit

respak

its a full time job declining articles that people write about themselves

not to mention the vandalism on top of that, which bots can do trivial rollbacks but for more high profile ones humans do em

[golden gust]

I'd just like you to know that the name "shane" means graced by god

[potent fossil]

its pretty yikesey

[golden gust]

So, bow down to me, bitch

[neat smelt]

finally got my server running with 591 maps

[potent fossil]

(map = world?)

[rare herald]

Why so many?

[steel pulsar]

post timings

[neat smelt]

tps is 20

but sure

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=d82a8feb3e394924bb4958e2fd02ea8b

[potent fossil]

ok, now put a player on every single one and watch your tps :)))

[neat smelt]

:)))

thats not what the server is meant for

[heady spear]

the timings won't even load

[steel pulsar]

timings is currently loading 👀

[neat smelt]

its just there so i can visit all my maps easily

timings is currently loading 👀
same xd

[serene bolt]

timings not loading

[hazy veldt]

Yeah, they won't load

[steel pulsar]

its fucked

paper is cancelled

[neat smelt]

oh wanna hear the most stupides part?

591 maps, but only ~1gb ram ussage

[heady spear]

i mean i think ur the stupidest part

someone was trashing timings v2 in spigot yesterday

was quite funny

[neat smelt]

timings is great

[serene bolt]

when you say "maps" do you mean maps the item, or worlds

[vernal moth]

upstream discord

[steel pulsar]

the spigot discord is so terrible there's like 4 channels

[heady spear]

yes because more channels = more good

ur very right

[rare herald]

^

[waxen panther]

yes.

[neat smelt]

i mean worlds

[waxen panther]

wow look at this chad huh

[rare herald]

Spigot needs 571 channels clearly

[azure flower]

Rip that 0.01 tps

[heady spear]

chode*

[waxen panther]

city

[heady spear]

im lonely

[neat smelt]

ha timings finally loaded

[steel pulsar]

i mean the quality of any project is directly exponential of its related discord

[vernal moth]

ah yes, sync chunk load

[heady spear]

lmao my last pair of jeans that actually fit me broke today, dis is great

[vernal moth]

also, pls never post screenshots of timings

[heady spear]

now ill have to walk without pants

[vernal moth]

no pants day best day

[heady spear]

hopefully I can afford to order some at the end of the month lmao

[rare herald]

Send pics

👀

[neat smelt]

mini i sent a link, but it takes like 5 minutes to load the timings

[steel pulsar]

found a weird little bug in your server

https://i.vgy.me/O1HYtw.png

[neat smelt]

my flags are better for my usecase

[rare herald]

Yeah, his GC looks fine

[heady spear]

how dare u not treat aikar as a god

that's not allowed around here

[neat smelt]

aikar is a god

and his flags are great for a lot of servers

just not for mine

[steel pulsar]

just put in the end flags that make the timings think it's the right flags

[waxen panther]

it's a fuckin 1.8 tacospigot server

[heady spear]

aikar can't do anything wrong

[waxen panther]

it's already stupid

[heady spear]

everything he does is perfect aight

[neat smelt]

broccolaaaaaai its just to visit maps, the server isnt meant to play on it

[azure flower]

Has there been any experimentation with the Shenandoah gc? I remember that being a big deal a while back, but heard nothing mc specific about it.

[waxen panther]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[limber knot]

G1GC works fine

[rare herald]

Has there been any experimentation with the Shenandoah gc? I remember that being a big deal a while back, but heard nothing mc specific about it.
I use it, I’m quite happy with it

[limber knot]

I guess if you have bigger heap sizes it'd be nice to try

[heady spear]

It's named after a fucking national park in virginia, so it must suck

[limber knot]

Problem is there are read barriers which can really hurt throughput

[steel pulsar]

whats wrong with national parks

[limber knot]

They're called "Brooks forwarding pointers"

[heady spear]

everything is wrong about them when they're in the US

[limber knot]

Everyone knows we have the best country

[steel pulsar]

what about the swedish parks

[limber knot]

All that oil drilling

and guns

[heady spear]

Everything in Sweden is flawless

we have the best national parks

and the best forests

and the best (& biggest in the EU) lakes

[limber knot]

Did you have to confiscate indian land to build your parks?

[heady spear]

[limber knot]

I think we definitely one-upped you there

[rare herald]

Everything in Sweden is flawless
Then what are you doing there 🤔

[heady spear]

nah, sami land

we treat the sámis much like yall treat your indians

[limber knot]

Good good

[heady spear]

in fact, we even kidnapped their children and forced them to attend Swedish schools and shit

[unreal quarry]

you gave them all casinos too?

[heady spear]

took inspiration from the US

[limber knot]

All great western powers must abuse their natives

[wide chasm]

What plugin do people use for currency nowadays? Needing to test some Vault integration, but the last time I worked with currencies was years ago.

[rare herald]

in fact, we even kidnapped their children and forced them to attend Swedish schools and shit
Basically Canada also tbh

[steel pulsar]

fuckin swedish schools in canada

[rare herald]

Minus the Swedish part

[heady spear]

then they suck

if they ain't Swedish, they're no good

[steel pulsar]

all i know is beijershamn in öland is the best nature reserve globally

by objective merit

[heady spear]

I wish Öland would just drift off into the Baltic sea

[steel pulsar]

worst sentence i've ever read

[wide chasm]

Shit, all these currency plugins are dead

[heady spear]

just use essentials

[wide chasm]

Like, dead. Supported version CraftBukkit 1.3 smh.

[hazy veldt]

EssentialsX is still alive

[heady spear]

unfortunately

[wide chasm]

Does EssentialsX support 1.16? I'm only seeing 1.15 here.

[cedar spade]

Dev builds

[wide chasm]

Thank you

[cedar spade]

Spigot release soon™️

[heady spear]

pfft imagine not supporting 1.16 yet

[cedar spade]

can't imagine that

[wide chasm]

Who cares about 1.16, when you can support 1.6!

[hazy veldt]

Spigot version seemed fine on 1.16, what broke in the update?

[cedar spade]

I recall getting reports that the Spigot version didn't load but I haven't tested it

Not many reports, mind

[hazy veldt]

It loaded last time I did a test, might be something specific causing it.

[serene bolt]

it had an error loading in the very first spigot 1.16 builds but that got resolved

was the zombie pigman enum not having backwards compat or something like that, the EssX provider was scared

[hazy veldt]

That's probably why, I didn't start my tests until Paper 20 something

[cedar spade]

Didn't Bukkit rewrite that though, or is that just for pre-1.13 plugins?

[frail lynx]

hey guys what online server hostings do you recommend are good?

[serene bolt]

yeah it does now md but it was bugged in the first 1.16 releases and didn't

[cedar spade]

I can't remember, I didn't do much of the 1.16 bringup

Fair enough

[twin lagoon]

@frail lynx for what

minecraft shared hosting?

vps?

dedicated server?

[frail lynx]

minecraft hosting

sry forgot to mention lol

[potent fossil]

aka, shared

[twin lagoon]

dedicatedmc.io

[potent fossil]

doesnt know what vps/dedicated is so

[twin lagoon]

slothhost

extravm

[potent fossil]

why would they call it dedicatedmc

[twin lagoon]

you get a dedicated cpu core(s)

[potent fossil]

[cedar spade]

a dedicated cores

[void void]

[steel pulsar]

just buy an actual server stop buying from resellers

[void void]

a dedicated server?

physical server?

[steel pulsar]

if you could buy your shoes directly from nike, would you still go to your shoe store

that's right

bet you feel real dumb now..

[rare herald]

I prefer to rent my shoes

[void void]

im confussed

[azure flower]

I wouldn't go near a store of any kind in these unprecedented times

[vernal moth]

I wouldnt in the US either 😂

[frail lynx]

hey guys, for a 2GB ram server, about how many worlds and players do you think it could handle?

[vernal moth]

at least 1

[limber knot]

maybe

[frail lynx]

bruh obviously lol

paper server btw with like about 30 plugins

[hazy veldt]

The answer is going to be it depends

[frail lynx]

depends on what

other specs?

[azure flower]

I mean my test server is on 2gb with 200% of a 7700k with 60 plugins and handles a whopping 5 people, if that helps

[vernal moth]

on everything

[serene bolt]

there's so many factors that go into "how many players"

[limber knot]

CPU, disk/ssd, what you do on the server

[frail lynx]

okay i'll explan

[void void]

i created 2 new worlds with 1GB server and server ram was around 90% usage

[vernal moth]

generally, 2gb is like the min amount you could have

[golden gust]

Nobody here is going to give you a number

We have better things to do than piss in the wind giving baseless answers

[unkempt drift]

243.5

wait what?

[azure flower]

-1/12

[vernal moth]

clearly its 1337 players on 69 worlds with 42 plugins

[void void]

-1 divided by 12 = ?

[unkempt drift]

420* plugins

[hazy veldt]

My username is a math thing, type it into wikipedia

[unkempt drift]

is your -1/12 in reference to the sum of 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 ...

yeah

I figured

[void void]

i love fractions

[frail lynx]

cpu: i9 9900k
nvme ssd
there will be about 5 minigames, all of them being pvp based games and like tnt run

i'll have like about 30-40 plugins
and the server will be 1.16

any estimates now?

[unkempt drift]

I mean just try it

and see how it handles

[frail lynx]

yeah but i don't wanna buy a server and then not have enough ram

[golden gust]

Once again

We're not going to piss in the wind

We don't know

[potent fossil]

oooooh yeeeeeeeaaaahhhhhh

more minigames seburs

[void void]

im pretty sure you will need at least 128GB or ram to run 1.16

[frail lynx]

aight goodbye then

[potent fossil]

it will be great

[frail lynx]

:)

[unreal quarry]

i will, cat. 15 players @frail lynx

[twin lagoon]

:)

[frail lynx]

im pretty sure you will need at least 128GB or ram to run 1.16
@void void thank you

[golden gust]

Billy

[frail lynx]

for your accurate reply

lmao

[golden gust]

You erm...

[potent fossil]

accurate

[frail lynx]

accurate

[potent fossil]

[golden gust]

You might wanna go blow dry your pants in the bathroom

[frail lynx]

nah

[azure flower]

I'll raise you 16 players

[unreal quarry]

no 17

[steel pulsar]

just sort by RAM descending and pick whatvers at the top of your hosting provider just for safety measure

[golden gust]

inb4 2 players because thermal throttling

[unreal quarry]

17 is my final offer, jim

[azure flower]

Sold

[unreal quarry]

\o/

so. dan dan found my video and called me impatient ^_^ i thought he was going to rag on me harder than that, so thats nice https://youtu.be/OuH93Wh0zaw?t=1479 starts around 24:40

[void void]

UwU

[cedar spade]

should I commit this

[steel pulsar]

gonna start learning java in my free time after 34 years of avoiding programming languages like the plague fuckin wish me luck

[wide chasm]

Good luck

[golden gust]

javas not too bad

[wide chasm]

Also, yes MD

[golden gust]

Just remember to start your daily sacrifices to the oracle gods

[steel pulsar]

isn't oracle a synonym for god anyway

[cedar spade]

fyi, that method is only called in another method that literally catches Throwable

that method can cause a NPE by design

[void void]

char* ptr = NULL; exception

[wide chasm]

I don't see the issue, no stack traces = no errors

[azure flower]

Always a good idea to catch Error

[void void]

i love catching exceptions

[wide chasm]

"Help my server is running out of memory"
catches all
"Problem solved"

[void void]

lol

[minor badge]

just make threads with try { code(); } catch (ConcurrentModificationException ignored) {} guys

[void void]

catch (OutOfMemoryException e)

[serene bolt]

billy how can you drive so recklessly!

[cedar spade]

my question is why IntelliJ only complains about chat and not perms

they're both the resullt of a @NotNull method but it only complains about one

[unkempt drift]

if you get rid of chat != null, does it complain about perms

[void void]

actually there is better way to fix all errors

just go in the main method

and catch Exception e

[cedar spade]

Machine Maker: nope

[unkempt drift]

I thought maybe it went from the end of the file to the start

[cedar spade]

intellij is smart ide

arguably could just return true there

[minor badge]

bukkit tho

[smoky python]

Bukket

[unreal quarry]

billy how can you drive so recklessly!

[cedar spade]

yeah I mean if Bukkit was a sane API

[void void]

https://tenor.com/bhTiZ.gif bukkit

dats a bukkit

[cedar spade]

@NotNull
public static Object getNull() {
    return null;
}

[orchid edge]

please help me, my server is showing me the name of every single block I break and I have no clue why

[void void]

lo

[orchid edge]

yep sand

[potent fossil]

[serene bolt]

did someone say sand

[potent fossil]

well did it just start after you added a plugin?

if so, go remove it.

then yell at the developer for being stupid

[orchid edge]

yes, essentialsprotect, but I removed it and it's still happening

[potent fossil]

then it wasn't that plugin.

[orchid edge]

I guess it's like herpes or whichever disease they say that about

[potent fossil]

keep removing.

[orchid edge]

that's the only recent change

[potent fossil]

when it stops, you found it.

ok, well let me tell u a secret

the server doesnt just do that

so it is a plugin sir

:)

[cedar spade]

SAND
SAND
SAND
SAND

[orchid edge]

kill me

[void void]

https://tenor.com/bilj0.gif

[potent fossil]

well ok actually

the other option is you're running a non legit jar but

ima just assume thats not true

[cedar spade]

SAND

[orchid edge]

I'm removing every single plugin and nothing is working 😭

[void void]

i tried using the repo in eclipse but its not working how is it done so that errors go away

do you need intellije or something

[cedar spade]

ah yes, the true meaning of thread safety

[potent fossil]

[unreal quarry]

i wonder if anyone has ever tried to spell something out in their github contributions graph/chart thingie...

[twin lagoon]

they have

https://github.com/gelstudios/gitfiti

[steel pulsar]

it was cool in 2011

[unreal quarry]

hah! nice

[cedar spade]

I still don't understand why we replace all the variables with {n} when loading the config

this isn't 2011, we use strings here

wat

what are you supposed to use for a player? the player's name?

or UUID as a string?

[minor badge]

name

[steel pulsar]

their height

as a float

[cedar spade]

in yards or kilometres?

[minor badge]

wonder if itd be worth it to try to make something that does use UUID for the main scoreboard

[ancient bolt]

@cedar spade better do it type-safe

@NotNull
public <T> T getNull() {
    return null;
}

[void void]

why does that exist

[cedar spade]

wait does vanilla just use player names on the scoreboard?

[waxen panther]

it's the peak of java creation

OOP (gone right) (gone sexual)

[cedar spade]

I have no idea how the scoreboard works

[steel pulsar]

i've never even see the scoreboard

[minor badge]

tbh i wish kotlin had smth like a generic null

[void void]

.lombok

[limber knot]

[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

[minor badge]

specifying : String? or whatever really doesnt look good :(

[minor badge]

concat

[cedar spade]

with ecat

[void void]

concatenate

[steel pulsar]

conatencnatanetate

[void void]

or "&r" + mFormat

lol

[cedar spade]

yeah I have no idea how or why EssentialsChat works

[fallen oracle]

Can you say the same for EssentialsX?

[minor badge]

can't you?

[fallen oracle]

I can for XMPP

[minor badge]

one of these days i'll bother to actually start using xmpp

[potent fossil]

i was going to use ejabberd to build a livechat service a while ago

but ended up getting really depressed and yea that didnt happen

[minor badge]

that happens

but now u can help me with my aids ban plugin instead

[potent fossil]

[fallen oracle]

Band-Aids plugin

Oh

Nvm, read that wrong

[potent fossil]

Glare go aggressively correct that mf in moss

[minor badge]

you're my band-aids glare ;))

[potent fossil]

I'm offend

[fallen oracle]

Who

What

[potent fossil]

In the mcbanners discussion channel

(I'm joking)

Oh he's actually doing it

[fallen oracle]

There

[minor badge]

thank u glare-sama

[potent fossil]

[fallen oracle]

Strawberry uncrustable. Yum yum yum.

[potent fossil]

Why do you eat uncrustables as your main source of nutrition

[fallen oracle]

It's the only thing I can afford

[potent fossil]

Relatable

[fallen oracle]

Can get a 20 pack for $10. Lasts 10+ days.

[potent fossil]

Mfw eating 2 uncrustables a day

[stiff yarrow]

.g uncrustable

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.smuckers.com/products/uncrustables -- Uncrustables - Smucker's: "Uncrustables® Sandwiches. Smucker's has discovered a new way to seal homemade goodness into a peanut butter and jelly sandwich… without the crust!"

[stiff yarrow]

I am disturbed

[potent fossil]

They're sandwiches with the crusts cut off in a circle manner

They're pretty gross tbh

IDK why he eats them

How much is ramen in comparison

[fallen oracle]

Ramen is a lot cheaper

Okay hear me out, you're late for work and you're running out the door.

You need a snack

You grab an uncrustable

Eat it on the way

Or you sit and wait and warm up ramen and 10 minutes later you leave and be even more late for work

[potent fossil]

Glare you don't have a job that you need to run out of the house for

[serene bolt]

I remember eating uncrustables for school lunch when I was in elementary, and they'd get so soggy from moisture from sitting in my lunch bag all day in the school locker

[potent fossil]

Unless you do

[fallen oracle]

I run errands almost daily for my family since I'm the only one that can leave the house.

[potent fossil]

Yeah I vividly remember my school giving us uncrustables in the lunch program except they were thawed and refrozen at least 4 times

[serene bolt]

lmao

[fallen oracle]

Rez, that's nasty. You grab straight from the freezer, wait 5 min, have at it.

[serene bolt]

who's rez :)

[fallen oracle]

Sorry, D.

[potent fossil]

wut

[fallen oracle]

Idk what he goes by

[serene bolt]

P U R E

[fallen oracle]

Okay fine

[potent fossil]

how do you even pronounce your name pure

[fallen oracle]

Pure miners

[serene bolt]

"pure minerz", was a level 99 runescape mining pure account

[potent fossil]

Oh god rs

[serene bolt]

I didn't even make the name, the auto name generator did

[potent fossil]

so what's the 0 in there for

[serene bolt]

[potent fossil]

kek

[serene bolt]

6 year old me was like "that looks cool"

and then I just never changed it and now it's far too late

[potent fossil]

and also it reads pure minrez (if i remove the 0) which is a misspelling

PLZ

[stiff yarrow]

.g always sunny I wanna be pure

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJSWy2o_1I -- It's Always Sunny - I just wanna be pure - YouTube: "Jun 27, 2015 ... It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Get season 7 on YouTube. Autoplay ..."

[potent fossil]

Oh Danny 🤤

[fallen oracle]

Not my proudest.

[potent fossil]

I have no shame

[unkempt drift]

this guy just going through stuff on github asking any updates? https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/289616803041116160/729771338092249117

[serene bolt]

I guess that's one way to get peoples attention

[potent fossil]

its a fairly common thing to do on dormant PRs

if it gets hella spammy then no

but i mean

2 times?

[golden gust]

would be nice if dumcord had a clean way to deal with stuff like that

I mean, github

my brain, god

am on simps level

[potent fossil]

yea like a ping w/o posting a comment or smth

idk

[golden gust]

But, part of the hell is that GH has no real way to +1 without a comment

[upper flicker]

there is no clean way to handle that

if you thumb it up and subscribe youre showing interest but it doesnt "bump"

and those people want it to "bump"

[hexed locust]

I'm here

[crystal otter]

i come to general for the first time in whatever

[hexed locust]

I've never been here

[crystal otter]

and the first thing i see is an elderly sweaty oiled man in underpants

[celest coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/265998661606047744/729772252618555432/image0.jpg

[potent fossil]

elderly sweaty man

that is fucking danny devito

he is a GOD

leave him alone

[umbral parrot]

did someone just insult danny?

[crystal otter]

you are an elderly sweaty man you pimply man

[umbral parrot]

do I need to get the whacking stick?

[azure flower]

thought kubernetes was older than that tbh

[fallen oracle]

He just went for #3

[azure flower]

Oh I'm confusing it with Kerberos

[hexed locust]

I am not sure what to do @crystal otter If I work with him I can probably get paid

If I leave I will save brain cells

But he does force me to work for a long time and my eyes start to hurt

[limber knot]

F​lu​xe​dS​cr​ip​t: how many players does your server have? because $15/m really only sounds like a couple of friends playing Minecraft, lol

[crystal otter]

how old are you again

[minor badge]

phoenix wanna make a server with me 😳

[hexed locust]

10gb of ram, I am 16

He is 13

[crystal otter]

you don't need to worry about getting paid

[void void]

my approach is if you like doing it, keep doing it

[hexed locust]

We have had 14 players on peak in alpha

[void void]

if you don't like it, fuck them

[crystal otter]

this sounds more trouble than it's worth

but if you can make it work, why not

[limber knot]

I mean, I DO have unused resources right now, Proxi ;D

[crystal otter]

but like, I wouldn't

[pale tundra]

Does he have perms to change gamemode?

[hexed locust]

Yes

He has console

[pale tundra]

o

[crystal otter]

if you are going to "work" with/for him, you need to lay out rules

[pale tundra]

unfortunate

[minor badge]

[crystal otter]

rules that he too has to follow

if he doesn't, you leave

[pale tundra]

make like a server labor union lol

[limber knot]

lmao

[pale tundra]

just have everyone boycot for like a week

[void void]

oh no

[minor badge]

i'll just buy bartysu.xxx

[hexed locust]

The other staff were talking about it

But the funny thing is

[crystal otter]

how many staff does this 15$/m 14 players peak server have exactly

[limber knot]

inb4 10

[minor badge]

probably all 14 on peak

[hexed locust]

about 8 in total including the owner and me

[pale tundra]

with 14 players total

[waxen panther]

lol

[crystal otter]

😬

[void void]

wadafuq

[limber knot]

and I thought I had a large team with 15 and 100 players/day xD

[void void]

aw

[minor badge]

we've got like 8 for a 60 player server bruh

[pale tundra]

this is getting more and more questionable

yeah you don't need 8

[hexed locust]

We know

[minor badge]

@spare venture me and u going out

[pale tundra]

you need like 2

[golden gust]

oh god

[pale tundra]

but I understand demoting people is probably hard socially

[hexed locust]

I wanted to fire one of the staff but he said he would fire me if I did it

[golden gust]

Could you imagine like a blind date type deal

and then proxi shows up at your door

[void void]

haha

[golden gust]

Think I'd cry

[minor badge]

lmao

[waxen panther]

Toxic

[limber knot]

wow

[crystal otter]

back in the day i ran a 30-40 player server all by myself

[serene bolt]

ouch

[iron zephyr]

In case anyone is interested, this is a really good plugin https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/hungergames-plugin-takeover.440816/

[crystal otter]

you definitely don't need 8 staff for 15 players