general

[waxen panther]

wouldn’t anyway she’s mine

[minor badge]

your name's on your git commits cat, lemme come over ;)

[void void]

wait wtf 8 staff for 15 players

[crystal otter]

well, 14 to be precise

[hexed locust]

We have 72 members in the discord

[pale tundra]

yeah basically you need to demote some people

[minor badge]

i'll slide in your emails catto

[pale tundra]

oh so only 14 at a time

[crystal otter]

starting with the owner

[golden gust]

You know, I think it would be kinda cool if we all met up and stuff

Just, like

[pale tundra]

but more players in total

[golden gust]

I don't wanna have to meet some people

[serene bolt]

met up and stuff

I like it

[golden gust]

eyes proxi and mini

[crystal otter]

i will come with a truck of peace and turn your meetup into a pulp

[minor badge]

it's fine, mini and i can go our own ways

[pale tundra]

meeting people from discord irl is probably one of the worst decisions you could make I think

[crystal otter]

fear me

[golden gust]

@vernal moth take one for the team, kthx

[pale tundra]

because you never know who's actually a 50 year old man living in their mom's basement

[crystal otter]

barty is projecting

[minor badge]

takes one to know one, no?

[crystal otter]

i am mentally a 50 year old man living in a basement

perpetually frustrated and angry at things

[minor badge]

in reality you're just a 50 yr old man?

[golden gust]

i'd believe that

[vernal moth]

@vernal moth take one for the team, kthx
@golden gust mmh?

[minor badge]

mini we're going on a date

[pale tundra]

@hexed locust basically you're in a bad place and any way out of it is gonna require hard decisions: either you have to demote a lot of staff (and risk demotion yourself) or try to deop the server owner, or use collective bargaining to force them to make concessions

[minor badge]

cat set us up

[vernal moth]

Most ppl from here I would like to meet I know from irc, not discord

So that's much better

[crystal otter]

heh

[hexed locust]

@pale tundra basically asking for suicide

[crystal otter]

you know what would be funny

[pale tundra]

a bad situation

[vernal moth]

You gonna visit me bby proxi?

[minor badge]

mini were u in the skype group with bram and bruno

[vernal moth]

Yas

[minor badge]

like 6-7 yrs ago

woa

[crystal otter]

it would be funny if someone offered to replace your 13 yo sponsor

wouldn't it

[limber knot]

Skype, now that's a name I haven't heard in a while

[minor badge]

something like that

[hexed locust]

is that to me?

[crystal otter]

yes

[vernal moth]

The group was really cool tho

[pale tundra]

@hexed locust yeah basically

[minor badge]

it was an epic group

[crystal otter]

wouldn't that be just hilarious

[golden gust]

Skype was nice, it's just, erm...

microsoft got it

[minor badge]

bruno still hasn't sent me a new picture of him in a suit with a carrot

[vernal moth]

Anybody remember the server owner Skype group?

With grum?

[serene bolt]

lol yeah

[hexed locust]

Hmm it would be nice but I got a co owner for my small company with 3 staff and 68 members that gave me a free vps

[pale tundra]

that minute when you're doing your duolingo and translate into english rather than just writing what they say

[azure flower]

What does co owner actually mean

[potent fossil]

i still use skype to talk to my fiancee, we've tried numerous others but skype is the only onethat works consistently

[fallen oracle]

I remember Yives

[hexed locust]

Someone who sort of manages a server

[crystal otter]

then you can probably handle migrating the server away from this 'owner' yourself

[pale tundra]

you could try to make a copy of the world and host it yourself somewhere

[hexed locust]

The community doesn't really like me

[crystal otter]

at least revoke his console access

[hexed locust]

but I can't build

I can't

[pale tundra]

it seems like you're a bit too conscientious for them

[hexed locust]

he is a 13 year old child

[pale tundra]

tbh we are all children in reality

[crystal otter]

who griefs the server, apparently

[pale tundra]

and is the owner

[hexed locust]

I'm 16

[potent fossil]

are we all children

really

[pulsar fox]

My wife and I met on IRC. IRC the goat when it comes to building real relationships

[pale tundra]

inside, yes

[golden gust]

alright grandad

[potent fossil]

dont forget the part where they call themselves the CEO

[golden gust]

I'd say that running a server does tie into having issues

yet to see a sane server owner

[pale tundra]

tbh I'm also a child and my buds and I have a few servers with no issues...but then again we had the most responsible person run it

[serene bolt]

PureGamerYT [CEO]

[quasi valley]

do you want to be a [MOD] on my server???

[potent fossil]

or they start their shared hosting service that barely operates, and they call themselves the CEO

[minor badge]

i mean, the server i work for is technically a registered company so the owner is in fact a CEO

[steel pulsar]

sh*ckb*te

[azure flower]

yet to see a sane server owner
I have a story to share. I once thought it would be a good idea to try out reducedDebugInfo true, because I thought people were too dependant on coords and wanted them to try going without them for a bit. Oh boy the fallout from that.

[potent fossil]

im not talking about servers like that proxi

i specifically said "when children" :p

[minor badge]

ooh

[vernal moth]

Only get to be CEO if you also have a coo and a CFO and a cto and a cio

[potent fossil]

ok actually

[minor badge]

simple u can be my director of human affairs 😳

[potent fossil]

i did not specifically say it

but i meant that

[pale tundra]

Bruh I just wrote a datapack to put coords on the screen straight out cause people didn't like that the coords were only in f3

[vernal moth]

I have a registered buisness

Am I a CEO now?

[potent fossil]

im p sure you just need a board of directors that appoints the c-level execs, no?

[serene bolt]

I have an LLC for android development, I am clearly a big deal

[crystal otter]

where is the rest of your story jim

give me the gritty details

[pulsar fox]

I have like 4 registered companies, must be a bigshot ey?

[azure flower]

Quite possibly the worst I've ever seen people act tbh. Genuinely awful.

[pale tundra]

I mean, CEO is Chief Executive Officer, so if you get like one other person and decide that you're a group of people, you can call yourself the CEO

and then the other person(s) can be like HR or something

[potent fossil]

what do you mean jim

[opaque flax]

I think LLC can be pretty cheap to register

[pale tundra]

its like when spiderman was talking to Dr. Strange and was like 'oh we're using our fake names now'...it's all just titles

[potent fossil]

lol

if you're gonna add a fucking backdoor, dont tell anybody about it

[twin lagoon]

hi i am CEO of MinecraftPrison LLC

[hexed locust]

I don't want to

I haven't got the community to like me

[potent fossil]

yea you cant put backdoored shit on spigot

idk about mcmarket

[hexed locust]

No need for spigot

I already have ftp

[void void]

I have a paypal business account so id like to be called a CEO as well pls

[pulsar fox]

Hi I'm CEO, CTO, CFO, Technology Director, Director of Operations Boolin Gaming LLC

[tired heath]

Could it be illegal, somewhere on the planet, sure, is it the same law on the whole planet, naaa I don't thinks so

[potent fossil]

wtf is this guy on about

[hexed locust]

Not really

[potent fossil]

what high profile super risky shit is he getting into that he thinks he needs a backdoor

an mc server

[hexed locust]

Basically

[potent fossil]

ok, you know what

already had too much kiddy bullshit

im out

[crystal otter]

pimply boi has departed

[hexed locust]

Finally

[pale tundra]

@hexed locust yeah that's the best option...if you can't get a world download and can't forcibly remove the owner or other's perms...you should leave. a backdoor is a terrible idea. Best idea is getting the rest of the people onboard and using collective action

[void void]

I love when people come to paper help to ask how to backdoor a minecraft server

Holy fuck

[pulsar wigeon]

people have been banned here for adding backdoors

[pale tundra]

that wasn't actually the original question

the original question was how to wrest control away from an irresponsible server owner

and that was a suggestion

[hexed locust]

It's easy make an api and put an easily changable password for executing commands as the console

Yes

[twin lagoon]

mason got clapped in this server

[serene bolt]

probably, mason was shilling non stop a few months ago about his patches

[void void]

Take control from a irresponsible server owner lmao

Who tf cares

[pale tundra]

well, the people on the server?

[void void]

If you are paying for the server its yours. Be as irresponsible as you want.

^

[pale tundra]

people on the internet :sigh:

[hexed locust]

Not hacking. I'm the server manager

[olive marlin]

Fluxed - get thes staff together if they don't like it either and just make a better server ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

These kids acting like taking control of a minecraft server is like they are toppling a corrupt monarchy

[azure flower]

I thought you were the co owner

[tired heath]

You want to hack your own server, you could also reset some configs, just saying

[hexed locust]

I was

[pulsar wigeon]

i originally banned mason for his shilling but he got unbanned. they clapped him when the backdoor thing came out

[hexed locust]

I got fired then rehired

[void void]

What a aboslute fucking legend. Backdooring a Minecraft server. viva la revolución

[crystal otter]

oh hey wiz is back

haven't seen em for a while

or did i just miss him for like 2 or 3 days?

[pale tundra]

barty and moistpencil...are you guys actually adults? Because you aren't acting like them. Insulting kids on the PaperMC discord server isn't very...mature

its rather tragic actually

[crystal otter]

you haven't been here for very long

people go insane here

[void void]

Coming onto the PaperMC discord to ask how to backdoor a server is annoying

[olive marlin]

A lot of people here are this way, unfortunately.

[crystal otter]

WE ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE

[hexed locust]

Actually it progressed moist

[pale tundra]

Unfortunately, that's not the actual question that was asked. He asked for a bit of guidance. You don't want to give it? close discord and get up from the desk and walk around

[void void]

Discord is for server development help and obviously PAPER MC HELP

The amount of retardation here sometimes is unreal

[crystal otter]

lol

[void void]

lmao

[serene bolt]

wiz would have controlled this ages ago

[crystal otter]

where is wiz anyway

did he blow himself up with a JULAAYY 4th rocket

[pulsar wigeon]

not my job ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crystal otter]

oh where did your mod go

what is even happening in this day and age

[azure flower]

Minecraft as always

[void void]

Firework needs a anti-lag plugin

[mighty storm]

most annoying bug with intellij

I cant select the option to the right of "Replace with x"

also my project has 189 typos lets go

oh 190 now

[hexed locust]

Switch to eclipse

[azure flower]

netbeans*

md5 approved

[mighty storm]

you guys are using java ides? I prefer the classic Notepad++

WordPad if i'm feeling frisky

[hexed locust]

Ewww

In that case leafpad is good

[mighty storm]

and not one single "typo" is actually a typo

[golden gust]

add it to the dictionary

[azure flower]

oh yeah that section is usually nonsense

[golden gust]

It's what I do

[mighty storm]

There's 5 "typos" in my API keys

[azure flower]

the best part is when it highlights random parts of urls which make no sense as dictionary words

[mighty storm]

like this?

Oh i can just exclude it from spell checking

[hexed locust]

....

What is with your variable names

[mighty storm]

those arent variable names

those are random "typos" in my api keys

there's 5 typos in the license, what is this

[azure flower]

Those would be terrible variable names, not a single emoji

[pale tundra]

lol

[golden gust]

writing in java when emojilang exists

plz

[mighty storm]

Anyway, other than 190 "typos" and 7 unused properties, my code is officially problem free

thats not to say it isn't bad

but

[pale tundra]

me when something compiles ^

[hexed locust]

^ also me

[mighty storm]

me: please, just let me do import package.*;
intellij: 49 lines of imports

[pale tundra]

autofill here to save the day

this is why Dr. Java is officially the best IDE

[hexed locust]

^ me comes to python make us a discord bot we will give you $10 me 10 weeks later here you go. Them tests it. 5 minutes later all of it doesn't work

[pale tundra]

no autofill whatsoever

[hexed locust]

Never used it

[azure flower]

One day this message will actually disappear when I click fix

[hexed locust]

Lol

[pale tundra]

lol

[mighty storm]

Remove "Defender" and it'll always be true

[hexed locust]

Lol

That's why I disabled mine

Jk

I use linux mostly

[elfin kraken]

If you want to buy huge moth dm me

[void void]

haha

[mighty storm]

https://cdnc.memerator.me/UQ3XjdRCzd.jpeg reminds me of this I saw when I was working on a school computer

[hexed locust]

Lol

[pale tundra]

hmm

[hexed locust]

I had someone send me ransomware before but I made someone else to install it to check it was malicious

[pale tundra]

wut

[mighty storm]

ah, big brain

[pale tundra]

why

just why

I mean yeah if you don't like them

but even then...sketch

yep

A crime a day keeps the doctor away

[mighty storm]

and the fbi playin eye spy

[pale tundra]

nah its the NSA probably

idk why the us didn't give snowden a pardon...it's really messed up tbh

but that's beside the point lol

[hexed locust]

Well my computer is a raspberry pi which I use for anything that might give me a virus and doesn't come with too much bloatware like Windows defender

[mighty storm]

only the president can give pardons right?

[hexed locust]

I think so

[mighty storm]

thats why nik

[pale tundra]

no it happened under obama

something I can

't forgive him for

ofc 45 wouldn't

[mighty storm]

ah the man himself Obama [last name redacted]

[pale tundra]

lol

[hexed locust]

Olivia are you female?

[mighty storm]

um, yeah, why?

[pulsar fox]

That's a bold and unnecessary question

[golden gust]

I have doubts that they're female

[pale tundra]

I mean ig you never know right? but also unnecessary probably

[golden gust]

am voting on potato

[mighty storm]

im also an adult so no you may not groom me, not letting that happen again

[pale tundra]

wut

[pulsar fox]

again

[pale tundra]

don't want to know nvm

[hexed locust]

They could be an 60 year old man in their grandmother's basement

[serene bolt]

even more reason to never say you're a female on the internet ever

[pale tundra]

that is true

also true

[hexed locust]

Again?

[pale tundra]

don't want to know, don't want to know

[golden gust]

this one time

at band camp

[pale tundra]

oh boy

[mighty storm]

https://cdn.memerator.me/ByIJgKQ3FQ.png rate my deck of cards

[worn ember]

stop global warming

[golden gust]

mfw

[azure flower]

Those are some low clouds

[hexed locust]

Lol to hoth

[fallen oracle]

Nice dog, Dragon.

[worn ember]

tnx

[mighty storm]

why is your cat extra thicc

[worn ember]

hes on a diet

dont bully him

[mighty storm]

chonker

wait that reminds me i havent seen my cat yet, imma go say hi

[pale tundra]

Legends of Chima is absolutely the best show

[hexed locust]

Never watched it

[pale tundra]

me neither

but I know it's epic

in my heart

[worn ember]

mfw i'm at y 117 lul

no wonder the clouds are so low

[hexed locust]

I am thinking in my head that Olivia is a 60 year old woman living in her father's basement

[mighty storm]

we dont have basements in texas

so it would probably be the attic

[pale tundra]

U have attic wut

[mighty storm]

people dont have attics??

[pale tundra]

In CA we have no basement and no attic basically

[mighty storm]

where do you keep all your extra stuff

[hexed locust]

We do but it's made for keeping in heat

[pale tundra]

well...we have a 'crawl space'

for...crawling

[golden gust]

over here in the UK, basements are pretty much rare

[mighty storm]

we use our attic as storage lol

[pale tundra]

omg it's an englishman

[hexed locust]

Depends zzz

[pale tundra]

honored to meet you sir

[hexed locust]

Me and zzz are both English or he is Scotish

[golden gust]

no new build bothers to have them afaik

[void void]

god i wish i had a basement

[pale tundra]

in my head I always just assume everyone online lives in my neighborhood, so when I hear someone lives in like australia or something it's weird

same

[serene bolt]

I don't have an attic, but have a huge basement and the crawl space is the equivalent to "storage"

[void void]

garage is getting crowded

[minor badge]

@serene bolt uwu,,,

[pale tundra]

ok I gotta go practice now

[golden gust]

attics are another fun one

[hexed locust]

Zzz do you have a garage?

[vestal jasper]

@minor badge weeb

[mighty storm]

omg it's proxi

[serene bolt]

but I like the uwu

[hexed locust]

god i wish i had a basement
@void void without sending that second message it kind of does sound a bit dodgy

[mighty storm]

you like the uwu but not the Purez~

[vestal jasper]

Oh no I summoned the weebs

[golden gust]

I know my grandparents house which was pre-war had an attic, but, we basically floored it ourself so that it was usable, as well as an extra enterance being added into the laundry room so that you could get in there as he pretty much just had a pair of ladders permo up there

[mighty storm]

[void void]

haha

[pale tundra]

weeb discrimination is illegal

[golden gust]

lots of post war tin houses as well call them, a few years ago they basically started shoving huge like foam blocks over the front to make them look... not like temp shitty housing lol

[hexed locust]

So I guess you live up north then zzz

[pale tundra]

is it an actual thing where there are streets where you have to submit to facial recognition?

like if you cover your face the police will fine you

[celest coyote]

is this china or something

[pale tundra]

uk

ik its in the news but is it like an everyday thing or just one street?

[golden gust]

Yea, I come from preston

[hexed locust]

Never heard of that

Is that like near edinbrough

[pale tundra]

I heard its like a 1000$ fine for covering ur face

pounds or whatever not $

[golden gust]

No, it's basically between liverpool and blackpool

near blackburn, etc

[hexed locust]

Yes pounds but I've never been fined

Ah nice

You should come live in the south

Less dangerous

[golden gust]

I moved to liverpool

[mighty storm]

a pool of livers? sounds unhealthy

[golden gust]

I gotta find the time to run down to bloody kent at some point

[hexed locust]

(Excluding Salisbury)

[pale tundra]

a blackburn...gotta go to the hospital for that probably

not good

[mighty storm]

i stole my cat and brought her to my room now she's cleaning herself

[void void]

i don't think i've ever been in liverpool, too far away

[golden gust]

My grandparents moved from preston as the neighbours where just shitty, and, family disputes where just like "meh, why am i here", so they moved down south to where my grandfather was born

sounds like a nice place, tbqh

[hexed locust]

Very nice but most people were I live act like London gang kids

[vestal jasper]

@pale tundra

[pale tundra]

imagine joining a gang because of a complex mix of socioeconomic factors that are remnants of the ramifications of past historical decisions

[golden gust]

i'll shiv u m8

[pale tundra]

just play mc all day

[potent fossil]

How long is a drive from one end of England to the other

In hours, no stops

[pale tundra]

probably like an hour or two or something

[hexed locust]

Exactly using the m5

[golden gust]

10 hours probs

[pale tundra]

oh lol ig not that small

[golden gust]

I know drive down to plymouth from preston is like 6 hours with stops

[hexed locust]

What car do your drive zzz?

[golden gust]

I don't drive

[potent fossil]

I mean, I took an 11 hour drive from my home town to Las Vegas (home town in central California)

So just wondering

[pale tundra]

yea LA to sacramento is like 8 hours

[serene bolt]

took like 28 hours from chicago to vegas for me

[pale tundra]

uk looks the same height

on google maps

[minor badge]

but the sun-

[serene bolt]

is that an accurate map model though, so many maps skew size

[golden gust]

Well, countries are basically akin to states afaik

[minor badge]

it never sets! this can't be!

[pale tundra]

the fractal dimension of britain's coast is 1.21

[minor badge]

european countries even more

[hexed locust]

One thing I never experienced before was up north all the people were just like me. Down south all the people were exactly not me

[pale tundra]

I think that's why it looks weird

[hexed locust]

It feels like England is 2 countries and not 1

[minor badge]

norway is like 1 km² larger than germany

[pale tundra]

bad Mercator projection

[golden gust]

north is where all the actual industry was and such

they're all posh ass fucks down south

pinky up

[hexed locust]

Lol

[void void]

well americas pretty huge

[minor badge]

cat how artificially long are u

[potent fossil]

4

[minor badge]

thanks simple

[pale tundra]

yeah why couldn't yall get along for the past like 500 years lol

[golden gust]

5' 7", 5' 9", depends how done with the day I am

[serene bolt]

lewd

[pale tundra]

I used to know the geographical location of all countries courtesy of seterra

that time is long gone

[minor badge]

you're huge cat

[hexed locust]

@golden gust how you picture the south:

Nice sandy beaches, no fights, little drugs and lots of expensive cars

How it actually is

Muddy beaches, lots of fights, kids hiding in the underpasses and most expensive cars are owned by the dealers

[wide chasm]

Please don't mention project developers.

[void void]

smh why do some english people still use imperial height

metres is so much simpler

[golden gust]

Because I forgot how tall I am in meters, lol

179? I think

[void void]

170

[hexed locust]

....

[pale tundra]

what is meter

I'm unfamiliar with this word

[void void]

or to be exact, 170.18

[golden gust]

cm u dum

[hexed locust]

1.78 metres you are @golden gust your a midgit

[void void]

stop pinging him

[potent fossil]

smh

[pale tundra]

@hexed locust don't use @

with blue people

[hexed locust]

Okay @golden gust

[pale tundra]

bruh

[serene bolt]

wow so funny

[hexed locust]

Okay I stop

[golden gust]

plz stop

[quasi valley]

and no wiz to save the day again

[potent fossil]

so i come back after taking a walk to get the stupid kids out of my system

and look

more stupid kids

time for another walk

[void void]

can't hurt

[azure flower]

Make sure to socially distance

[quasi valley]

ah he's got the boot

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean he'd have been banned after the backdoor thing lmao

[void void]

hmm?

[quasi valley]

you really know something's wrong when tax funded news talk 15 seconds about 20 deaths in japan, and another 15 seconds on 150 people dying in ethiopia, and then procede to talk 3 minutes about football

sorry, almost 4 minutes of football*

in 15 minute news, I mean, holy moly

[pale tundra]

well sports seslls

sells**

people in general are insensitive and self absorbed, and those that aren't are generally too weighed down with life to have the energy to care about other people

sports comes in as a type of escapism fantasy which lets them take their minds of things

🤷 just the way it is ig

[void void]

i thought it was an excuse to get drunk

[pale tundra]

the rare gems are the ones who actually are genuinely kind to everyone

lol

but drinking is also escapism, just more harmful

it's also a way to facilitate easy social connection without the hard part of actually being interesting or something

[quasi valley]

drinking yourself dum makes people share their dumness

[pale tundra]

lol

basically, the only way to not be depressed in 2020 is to surround yourself with nice people

otherwise you're screwed I mean look at this year so far

[wraith oracle]

I can relate

[void void]

i must be strange

[quasi valley]

I luckily have a friends group that I can meet up with without having to drink, but I wouldn't call all of them 'nice' either 😂

[pale tundra]

unfortunate

[wraith oracle]

it's in our culture here where I live

[pale tundra]

I got lucky - in first grade I met like 3 nice people...they're basically my main friends

[wraith oracle]

it's like we can't meet without having to drink/eat something

[pale tundra]

well I don't mean drinking water

[quasi valley]

lmao

[wraith oracle]

I don't think any of us do lol

[pale tundra]

but my history teacher a few years ago's dad was killed by a drunk driver...he put it this way: if you need to drink to become interesting enough to talk to, maybe take a look at your life

[quasi valley]

yeah but the "eat/drink" would have made it unparallel when interpreting it as alc :p

[pale tundra]

and reconsider something

ye

^ye

[wraith oracle]

but my history teacher a few years ago's dad was killed by a drunk driver...he put it this way: if you need to drink to become interesting enough to talk to, maybe take a look at your life
I think this only applies to those who are actually looking for a conversation

[pale tundra]

why else would you coinhabit a space with other people?

[wraith oracle]

Drink and do stupid shit to escape of our mundane lifes?

[pale tundra]

ah

[quasi valley]

I mean yeah, some people use alcohol as a replacement for an actual hobby lol

not that everyone does, but quite some

[pale tundra]

yeah lol just play like recorder or something

[wraith oracle]

Why can't drinking be a hobby tho

[pale tundra]

its like 10$

[wraith oracle]

even though a harmful one at an extent

[potent fossil]

its an addiction

[slender jay]

Drinking can be a hobby

[wraith oracle]

everything you do more than regularly is an addiction

[pale tundra]

yeah drinking really messes you up if you aren't really careful

[slender jay]

And it doesn't have to be addictive

Think about wine

[wraith oracle]

humans are bound to have addictions, you just have to avoid getting harmful ones

[slender jay]

And wine tasting

Is that an addition

[potent fossil]

if you think wine-os aren't just as bad as ppl who chug vodka

you are wrong

[pale tundra]

yeah but an addiction to checking both ways before crossing is a bit different than an addiction to a dopamine-releasing chemical

[potent fossil]

objectively

[quasi valley]

wine isn't better than beer just because it looks fancier :D

[slender jay]

I dont say go and drown yourself in wine

[wraith oracle]

We only take wine with my friends

10 bottles every friday at the very least

I don't think that makes us any better tbh

[quasi valley]

oh god I thought that was a joke

[pale tundra]

im really hoping that's not 10 per person

I did too

[wraith oracle]

Yes

[void void]

wat

[pale tundra]

I'm hoping you have like 40 people

[fallen oracle]

Tho wine drunk is a diff drunk.

[potent fossil]

i thought we were talking about ppl who wake up and have a glass or two of wine with their breakfast (or, more commonly, a screwdriver (orange juice + vodka))

[wraith oracle]

we are about 15

that's good enough

[pale tundra]

drunk is bad period

[wraith oracle]

I haven't said otherwise

[pale tundra]

alcohol is bad if you want to do something with your life

yeah ik we all agree that drunk is bad I think

[quasi valley]

I wouldn't go that far, but it is certainly bad

[fallen oracle]

Okay but having a drink like once a month isn't that bad.

[potent fossil]

i mean getting drunk here and there is fine...if you do it responsibly with a DD

[fallen oracle]

Not to get drunk

But like

You know, a beer or 2.

[potent fossil]

or 9

[pale tundra]

or 15

[fallen oracle]

Shh

[quasi valley]

lmao

[fallen oracle]

Not doing that again.

[slender jay]

i mean i am not one to talk about considerate drinking im from eastern europe

we drink like crazy here

[wraith oracle]

just mix some of the wine with tequila or vodka like we do

you are officially dead

[void void]

looks at grandparents

[quasi valley]

just start mixing them with medication for extra effect

[pale tundra]

I mean I guess I've never seen anyone successfully drink responsibly so I'm a bit biased

[potent fossil]

@wraith oracle look up long island iced tea.

[pale tundra]

like my whole family is just alcoholic on one side

[potent fossil]

right

just saying, wine and tequila/vodka != ded

kek

[wraith oracle]

@potent fossil I am saying that because of the amount lol

Imagine taking 6 bottles of wine and then add up 4 bottles of tequila/vodka

[potent fossil]

bottles

no shit

[wraith oracle]

it's what we do here

yeah, I know

[fallen oracle]

I've yet to have a good one of those.

[potent fossil]

what a long island iced tea?

[fallen oracle]

Yas

[potent fossil]

well

[slender jay]

a party without at least 10 empty bottles is a tragedy around here

[potent fossil]

if you really wanna go out in one drink

order an Adios Motherfucker

[wraith oracle]

Argentina, you won't understand

[potent fossil]

(actual drink name)

[fallen oracle]

Lol

[pale tundra]

did you know that for most people alcohol has a placebo component? like if you hand someone a glass of 'beer' that doesn't actually have any alcohol and put them in a bar setting they will start unconsciously acting tipsy

[fallen oracle]

Yeah I've heard of that, I believe.

Well yeah

[potent fossil]

https://www.liquor.com/recipes/adios-motherfucker-2/

[fallen oracle]

It's the same thing with a Wii Remote and a Juul.

[potent fossil]

They're so good it's sad.

:/

[pale tundra]

some people will drink like 4 and act full on drunk without knowing there's nothing in them

lol

[void void]

and by extension their hosts

[potent fossil]

I mean, humans are hella social animals

[quasi valley]

just don't have one, ez

[fallen oracle]

Too bad when I drink Fanta, I don't feel Fantastic.

[pale tundra]

we live in a society

[fallen oracle]

Brain needs to work harder.

[potent fossil]

glare, thats bc you're missing that sticky icky

cant just do fanta

[wraith oracle]

I do think you've got a problem if you start drinking by yourself though

[pale tundra]

Soda just makes you feel like you lost about 10 yrs of ur life

[slender jay]

yeah drinking alone

is bad

[pale tundra]

like if you think about it

[quasi valley]

that's not a problem, that's depression

[golden gust]

idk, coke and rum

[potent fossil]

ha, i have no idea what that shit is

[quasi valley]

a problem is drinking a lot in groups, still

[golden gust]

I mean, just rum in general

[potent fossil]

[golden gust]

Heck, rum in your tea when you wake up before you go uni

[potent fossil]

whats a depression. I am normal

[golden gust]

Now that's the shit

[wraith oracle]

drinking in groups is acceptable as long as you don't do it very very often

[potent fossil]

[quasi valley]

that's a top tier emoji simple

[fallen oracle]

The song in #music covers it pretty good. /s

[void void]

yes you can

[pale tundra]

if you drink a lot in uni you will pretty much fail

unless you like study everything in advance or something crazy

[wraith oracle]

I don't think that's the case

[fallen oracle]

Don't have to worry about drinking in uni if they don't have in-class sessions

[pale tundra]

fact

[fallen oracle]

^ Business Majors be like

[wraith oracle]

you are not looking for top grades at that point but yeah

[potent fossil]

tbf going out 3 times a week is curriculum for business majors

gotta train for those...connections dinners...

[fallen oracle]

I think I went out once a week maybe every other week.

[slender jay]

honestly it all boils down to how good you are at managing your time

[fallen oracle]

Yeah. Like, right now, I could be go finding food.

But I'm feeling a nap.

[potent fossil]

i decided to do laundry and im folding clothes while talking to yall

so. im doin pre good

[slender jay]

naps are dangerous

naps are evil

[fallen oracle]

I mean, no matter what time I go to bed, I get up at 7:30AM.

[wraith oracle]

I do not believe I will go past 35

and I am 22

lol

[fallen oracle]

Here for the good time, not the long time?

[wraith oracle]

exactly

[worn ember]

i hope so too

[potent fossil]

seems to be a common theme in late millenials and the entirety of gen z

[foggy elbow]

Ahah I just saw the update of EpicWorldGenerator :

Added support for Paper spigot.

With the current state of Paper spigot, I would personally avoid using Paper 1.16 for a while.```

[potent fossil]

just collective depression

[fallen oracle]

It's like, uh

[unkempt drift]

the "current state"?

[fallen oracle]

Group-pushed depression

Like, it floats around everyone

[pale tundra]

I'm not depressed, but most of my classmates are

[worn ember]

speak for yourself

[fallen oracle]

It piggys on everyone

[worn ember]

im not depressed

[pale tundra]

cause tbh the world is getting screwed

[peak dirge]

Still calling it "Paper Spigot"

[fallen oracle]

I mean, I can understand in this point in time with everything going on, if people are feeling a little down.

[peak dirge]

that hasn't been the name of the project since 2015

[slender jay]

most of the "depressed" people just think they are depressed

[pale tundra]

climate change, systemic racism, space policy, unregulated capitalism...

[potent fossil]

none of that is real snowflake

(/s)

[pale tundra]

[click to expand ten more+]

[fallen oracle]

Well, yeah, to some people, it's just a meme.

[pale tundra]

I'm very glad that /s was there

[potent fossil]

really?

[fallen oracle]

That's a little too far.

[potent fossil]

dark why are you just a literal piece of shit these days

[glad shell]

some mastermind to help me in this, I can't start my waterfall, for lack of memory, but I assigned 2GB

[worn ember]

[void void]

.paste

[limber knot]

Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg

[void void]

also #waterfall-help

[potent fossil]

if you are here for help, go to the help channel.

jinx

[worn ember]

https://giphy.com/gifs/giphyqa-LAKIIRqtM1dqE

@potent fossil am sorry, i'll behave

[potent fossil]

just hits close to home m8.

this community has lost too many people for those 'jokes'

we see one's name every time we link that damn optimization guide

rip frash

[golden gust]

Once again

Your OS is out of memory

increasing Xmx will not fix your system being out of ram

[leaden cloud]

Paying for cloud ram, still my system is out of ram

[warm anchor]

Just download for ram

[brazen pebble]

Lol

[warm anchor]

All joke aside I think the memory they assign you also includes the one needed for OS

[cedar spade]

I downloaded a swapfile

[warm anchor]

So you can’t go over

[cedar spade]

now my system has more ram

||/s||

[leaden cloud]

sad part, my gf did that on her iphone...

[void void]

wat

[leaden cloud]

and paid for it

[worn ember]

understandable

[warm anchor]

So how much more ram did she get?

[leaden cloud]

0 XD

[void void]

must have done it wrong then

mine doubled

[leaden cloud]

damn, then I gave her bad help to remove it. Lets hook some ram up for her!

[finite wave]

😭

[slim lake]

Alright 1.16.1 is being laggy as shit

[finite wave]

[slim lake]

Is this a known issue or is my server being trash

[finite wave]

latter,

[slim lake]

Alright so I should probably stay on 1.15

[finite wave]

Calling 1.16 trash -> Deciding to stay on 1.15

[slim lake]

I didnt say 1.16 was trash. My server is having issues running it

[finite wave]

Whaaa

[glad shell]

I already solved, what happens that I bought a dedicated ovh server and it came with 32GB and in my network I used all my ram: F that's why I came out running out of ram

[ashen cliff]

32GB is a lot of ram btw.

[void void]

not from 1.16's point of view

[spice finch]

For one servers it's huge amount

[kindred storm]

1.15 is still supported last I checked

[spice finch]

Too big I'd say

[warm anchor]

32 GB is enough for 1.16

[limber knot]

nobody cares about how much wam ur serbur is using, all we care about is gc intervals and pauses

[warm anchor]

Way more than enough lol

[void void]

ma surbeer es usang alutu dediddaded weeam

[limber knot]

now, I do care about how much wam dumcord uses

cuz a heccin chat client doesn't serve that much of my compootar

[void void]

dumbcord currently uses: 160MB

for me

[twin lagoon]

there's a memory leak or something in discord for me

[limber knot]

u sure about dat mr deny man

not to mention any that are paged

[void void]

yap

[potent fossil]

discord and its children processes are using about 150mb for me

[golden gust]

Wow, discord is being sane here

[void void]

u need to kill the children to save memory

i think its something to do with the new windows heap memory system

[potent fossil]

im on linux so no

[golden gust]

for me, I just don't think discord cleans up after itself much

e.g. if i jump between all my servers, I can ez have discord eat a few gigs until it restarts

[potent fossil]

i can relate on mac

it uses a lot

[warm anchor]

Discord is like chrome

[potent fossil]

but on linux, not seeing that usage

[limber knot]

meanwhile I can jump between channels and networks no problem which is what always puzzles me about web developers

y web interfaces succ?

[potent fossil]

idk what changed but now it's using 320 or so

so whatevz casually double ram usage

np disc

[void void]

want to see how much memory 1.16 will take

[peak dirge]

tHe YeAr Of ThE lInUx DeSkToP iS hErE

[potent fossil]

[limber knot]

E​te​rN​it​y: discord IS chrome ;)

[serene bolt]

yeah the more servers and channels you flip through it just eats more and more

[ashen cliff]

Can confirm: https://posili.me/i/2020-07-06_23-28-19.png

[limber knot]

32bit? Oo

[void void]

yes its 32 bit

[ashen cliff]

It's 32 bit on Windows.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder how much it uses if you join multiple 250k servers.

[potent fossil]

.tryit

[void void]

no

[potent fossil]

wtf

.try

[void void]

NO

[limber knot]

https://tryitands.ee/

[potent fossil]

there

[limber knot]

also no I dont wanna load ur dum animated anime pfp

[ashen cliff]

No choice, as they used the apng exploit.

[limber knot]

I struggle to get ripcord up to 35MB memory

[potent fossil]

probably does have to do with how many servers you are in

[pulsar wigeon]

wait really, discord lets you use an apng even without nitro?

[limber knot]

yeah, I'm only in 34 lol

[ashen cliff]

They forgot to block it for a coupe of days...

[serene bolt]

in the early days of discord there was actually an issue where the more servers you were in, the more data it took on mobile, because it just kept updating all the data for all the servers you were in

[worn ember]

intellij casually using 1.2gb or ram when idle

[limber knot]

meh, ripcord fails to leave the minecraft discord 👀

[peak dirge]

IDEA used like 3.2GB

[kindred storm]

that's almost all the ram on my laptop

[worn ember]

does intellij run on chromium now or something?

[peak dirge]

no

[limber knot]

java baybee

[peak dirge]

it has embedded webkit but it's still majority JVM-based

[golden gust]

IJ basically uses more ram for stuff like indexing, etc

[limber knot]

I've been considering if the java extensions for vs code is sufficient to use that for java dev

[golden gust]

That's part of why I laugh at those who love eclipse workbenches

[limber knot]

it's missing stuff that I can't seem to figure out how to do tho like show parameter tooltip

[worn ember]

good luck with that

[limber knot]

caring about memory

[golden gust]

that would literally bloooow resources

[minor badge]

yall should be aikar's flags on intellij with 25gb memory smh

[limber knot]

what is this, 2000?

[void void]

thats 1.16 most of the time (dedicated server)

[ashen cliff]

Not using ZGC above 16MB.

[worn ember]

unused ram is wasted ram fills up ram with memory leaks

[limber knot]

none of your ram is unused I'm sure

no idea why your intellij uses that much lol: https://i.moep.tv/fGhyQJZ9.png

https://i.imgur.com/Z4YXvFe.png committed is how much your system is really using in total, including paging

[worn ember]

i'm only at 50%

[ashen cliff]

Most of your ram is always in use under Linux.

[potent fossil]

i mean yea, if you're not using it, linux puts it to good use

but as soon as you need it, it releases it

its good

[limber knot]

yes every OS does that

[warm anchor]

[limber knot]

https://phoenix616.dev/📷/fOlwhAlI.png

rarely do you see "free" except maybe at startup for Windows in task manager. Just "available"

[ashen cliff]

Don't see Windows caching that many file.

[potent fossil]

ye

[limber knot]

dahek is that an emoji in the URL

a camera ;)

breaks the parser in this client lol

[potent fossil]

lel

[limber knot]

get a better client

get a better url

[worn ember]

[warm anchor]

~~I guess discord is better after all ~~

[limber knot]

that IS the better URL :P

the others are just like /i/ or something

works just fine in irssi :P

[minor badge]

how do u show the memory in bottom right phoenix

[limber knot]

no idea

maybe it's an option?

68GB

[minor badge]

🅱️erhaps

[potent fossil]

not using a subdomain

opting for subfolder

[limber knot]

sumbody did something once upon a time

[ashen cliff]

Not using Imgur.

[limber knot]

emoji subdomains are eww

[worn ember]

emoji's are the future

[potent fossil]

WHY DO YOU NEED EMOJIS IN THE URL

[minor badge]

https://owo.whats-th.is/6BgEXRq.png huh

[limber knot]

also i. is a subdomain too ;)

[ashen cliff]

Need a emoji TLD.

[limber knot]

I just use a different (sub) domain every paste automatically ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[potent fossil]

thats what i meant. use i. subdomain.

[void void]

retarted ram usage

[ashen cliff]

GC.

[worn ember]

. 🇧 🇪

[ashen cliff]

.🇷🇸

[worn ember]

yes welcome to discord

[limber knot]

these are my possible upload domains from sharex: i.moep.tv|moep.tv/i|i.phoenix616.dev|phoenix616.dev/i|is.papr.best|is.paper.sexy|spigot.club/i xD

wait, where is the emoji

[worn ember]

should i buy narcotics.com?

[potent fossil]

for what

[limber knot]

Proximyst: https://phoenix616.dev/📷/fUOHYu1Z.png

[void void]

nice website

[worn ember]

oh nvm .com is already a thing xd

[minor badge]

i dont have that phoenix

guess it's a windows only thing or just in a newer release

[void void]

how tafaq were you able to use an emote as folder on a website

wtf

[limber knot]

might be removed in newer ones

I still run 2018.3

[minor badge]

im on 2020.1.2

oh

[ashen cliff]

Due to Asia.

[worn ember]

utf

[limber knot]

D​EN​Y ​EV​ER​YT​HI​NG​: 1. it's not a folder, it's an nginx proxy 2. asia

[minor badge]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/

new blog design hm

[limber knot]

domains have full UTF16 support now

[potent fossil]

oh btw, figured out why IJ was being a piece of shit on linux when using multi monitors and opening context menus on different screens than where the IDE is

its the fucking material UI plugin

so, trashed that shit

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

material UI

[golden gust]

am on 2020.2, it has that

might be in a view menu

[worn ember]

material ui does big dum sometimes

but i still like it

[potent fossil]

i like it, but it's unusable on latest IJ + linux + multimonitor

so, rip

[golden gust]

view > apparence > status bar widgets

[worn ember]

jUsT uSE wInDOWs

[void void]

i use windos

winDOS

[ashen cliff]

The year of the BSD desktop when?

[spice finch]

Now

[potent fossil]

havent used bsd tbh

[void void]

FreeBSD

[potent fossil]

ok actually,

[worn ember]

i wanna run a linux distro as main but effort

[potent fossil]

i've used it indirectly when i used to run freenas

afaik that's based on freebsd

[spice finch]

I used Linux few weeks but games were stronger than me

[ashen cliff]

BSD is not based, it is cringe.

[worn ember]

you can run like 90% of games on linux now

adobe shit is the biggest reason i'm still on windows

[potent fossil]

the ones you cant run are the ones behind DRM

but they're working on it, sort of

[limber knot]

that's why Steam is the best DRM

[void void]

does GNOME work on BSD?

[potent fossil]

i mean...

im talking about the steam games that proceed to launch fucking uplay

which then launches the game

those dont work even with proton

[ashen cliff]

Buy a game, pirate the DRM free copy, ???, profit.

[limber knot]

well that's not a steam game then 👀

[serene bolt]

If denuvo sorted out there shit a ton of AAA games would be playable on linux

[potent fossil]

its sold on steam

so yes it is...

[limber knot]

it's also sold on uplay so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worn ember]

what are some visually good looking distro's?

[limber knot]

just use GOG I guess, lol

anything with MATE

runs

[worn ember]

ok M8

mate is weird af tho

[potent fossil]

elementary replicates mac, but functionally im pretty sure its quite shitty

[void void]

DESKTOPLESS GNOME

[limber knot]

yeah, like who has a task bar with windows at the BOTTOM?!?

[worn ember]

man, fuck mac os ui

[potent fossil]

gnome 3 is what im using and its quite nice, base gnome is super shit but there is a whole extension system which makes it v nice v nice

[ashen cliff]

Not using ALT TAB to switch.

[limber knot]

that's the first thing I change in MATE, move the windows to the top lol

[worn ember]

i get so fucking triggered about their taskbar not taking up the entire bottom, so much wasted space

and its really annoying to look at

[potent fossil]

eh?

you can make it autohide, sir

if you dont you're masochistic

[limber knot]

it's designed for people that don't full screen applications ;)

[worn ember]

idc sir, its disgusting

[potent fossil]

but then again

i never used the dock

cmd+space

get a dmenu

[limber knot]

I have yet to find any distro that has any decent graphical design that isn't something ripped off from 2003

[worn ember]

[potent fossil]

I love NileRed

[void void]

piss

[potent fossil]

He does some cool experiments

Long videos though

[ashen cliff]

Caffeine reduced.

[potent fossil]

I guarantee the focus in that vid is the chem behind it

[worn ember]

i need something visually pleasing, and linux is aids to make it look good

[limber knot]

maybe you get somewhere with some purty looking icons but then the animations suk

[potent fossil]

the title is a meme

[worn ember]

windows looks okay, i like material design

[limber knot]

material copied metro

[potent fossil]

oh god metro

[worn ember]

its the minimalist age

good times

[potent fossil]

yea, i mean

[worn ember]

better than 50 gradiants

[potent fossil]

i like material in some things but when not implemented properly it reduces functionality way too much for me

[limber knot]

how to design a material website: white background, black text and colorful icons

[worn ember]

that goes for everything

[limber knot]

it's literally no design

oh, and the font needs to be sans-serif and "rounded"

hur dur my icons have shadows woww

[potent fossil]

dont forget the typography, it has to be super thin

[worn ember]

not really

[limber knot]

oh and no native dark mode 👀

because white is your brand

[void void]

hot

fix

[worn ember]

you can do a lot with minimalistic design

but if you do it wrong it looks cheap and shite

[limber knot]

btw. for anyone who isn't aware of that yet: @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) is a thing ;)

media queries? responsive design? wut dat

[worn ember]

where the fuck are you supposed to put that?

[limber knot]

in your css

[worn ember]

yours?

hows that gonna help anything

lol

[limber knot]

r u being sarcastic

pls i hope so

[worn ember]

no

[limber knot]

else i hope u rly not a web dev

[worn ember]

also i think my webcam is hacked

it keeps randomly flashing lmao

[limber knot]

css is just ass without the bar

[worn ember]

i think someones taking pics

[void void]

wat

[worn ember]

i have a certificate that says otherwise, but i hate webdev anyway

havent done it in the past 3 years

[limber knot]

i told u mr everything

[ashen cliff]

For the better.

[limber knot]

were u rly sure

cuz u r not

there r more

[worn ember]

i know about media queries, i just dont see how having that querry does anything?

[void void]

/reload confirm

fixed

[serene bolt]

it's so you, the web dev, can detect what someone prefers and adapt your site accordingly

[worn ember]

yes but ur the one that put it there

so??

[serene bolt]

?????????????

[void void]

lets see whats gonna happen when i force close discord process number 2

[limber knot]

2 more spawn

[void void]

Nether Bug is ...

[worn ember]

if you want dark theme just make it dark theme?

why do you need to put queries for that in the css

[void void]

crashed

[serene bolt]

so you can automatically adjust your website to switch to dark or light based on their browser / system preference

[worn ember]

so its a browser setting then?

[minor badge]

@serene bolt uwu,,,,

[potent fossil]

offtopic: did that mason guy's 'business' thingy get shutdown over his backdoor or is he still running rampant backdooring ppl

[minor badge]

its a browser setting in firefox, a mix in chromium

[twin lagoon]

he's still alive @potent fossil

[potent fossil]

nice

[twin lagoon]

he doesn't do paper stuff though

so his "main" optimization jar stuff is dead

[potent fossil]

lmao

[twin lagoon]

he's still a software engineer for a few servers

[potent fossil]

big yikes

[worn ember]

so how do i check if my webcam is hijacked?

[ashen cliff]

Why even have a webcam in the first place?

[limber knot]

chromium turns to dark mode automatically if you have windows in dark mode :D

pretty sure there is a setting too though

[worn ember]

cuz thats a requirement for my meetings?

it keeps randomly flashing the light tho, so im fairly certain something aint bueno

[limber knot]

can't you just disable it?

[worn ember]

yes, but wheres the fun in that

[void void]

u guys use chrome-edge?

[minor badge]

i uae stable chromium plus the dark mode flags when starting it

[limber knot]

eww, chrome-edge ignores the dark mode setting

[worn ember]

its pointed at the ceiling anyway, so its not like its getting anything useful

[void void]

ew

[limber knot]

ah, it's a setting

actually looks decent in dark. like a non-round chrome lol

also interesting: they just replaced google's accoutn sign in with their own one lol