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worn ember
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"easy"

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ok then

carmine hinge
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IT is where people who fail CS go usually

worn ember
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its not super theoretical yes

carmine hinge
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at my uni specifically

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idk about others

worn ember
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but its not easy either

ocean moon
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all majors are difficult in their own way

worn ember
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its a master, not a major

carmine hinge
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at my uni it's kind of a joke major, they have like a huuge amount of elective credits

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oh nice

worn ember
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i think its one of the harder courses at my college tbh

carmine hinge
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i hope my college improves the curriculum for IT lol

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the CS curriculum seems pretty good on the other hand

ocean moon
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i wish cs was more practical

worn ember
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well then CS isnt what you wanna follow lol

carmine hinge
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i think my uni has a good mix of practical application

ocean moon
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no i like it

carmine hinge
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but yeah CS isnt meant to be practical fundamentally

ocean moon
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im cs and math, but the turing machine bullshit is useless to me

carmine hinge
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it's nice that most of the CS classes at my uni involve actual programming

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last semester we learned programming language fundamentals by making a programming language

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with the lexical analyzer and parser and stuff

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at the same time we also learned C++ in the same course

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next semester we're doing C, LAMP, and some other stuff all in one course to make some big program

ocean moon
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what is lamp?

carmine hinge
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linux apache mysql php

worn ember
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moth be like: LAMP

limber knotBOT
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lemp is better

carmine hinge
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ya i use nginx for my own server

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my internship uses LAMP

worn ember
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tf does the E stand for cat

carmine hinge
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nginx

ocean moon
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mern is betterer

limber knotBOT
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eNginx

carmine hinge
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so i think that class might be pretty easy

worn ember
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meh

carmine hinge
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minus the C part anyway

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i've also heard stuff about 'parallel processing' or something

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and it's apparently different from threading

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not quite sure how it works but it's part of the class apparently

limber knotBOT
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It's basically threading, but, more limited in scope

carmine hinge
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Is it more difficult?

limber knotBOT
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Never worked with C, specifically, so, no idea

ocean moon
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any recommendations for optimizing an mc server running on a linux box

worn ember
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dont 🙂

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(to the C message)

ocean moon
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are there any services as i should disable etc to get more performance

steel pulsar
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if you like math you should do civil engineering for five years

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math out the ASS

limber knotBOT
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linux distros are generally light as all heck by default unless you went crazy and installed a desktop variant

worn ember
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@ocean moon if you have a minimal install there shouldnt be already much on there

limber knotBOT
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the whole "running around to disable all the background crap" really ain't all that applicable to linux server editions

carmine hinge
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There's also this Linux kernel class

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I reaaally wanted to take it next semester

limber knotBOT
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"and, today, we're going to talk about systemv"

cedar spade
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what you mean I shouldn't run a Minecraft server on pclinuxos!?!

carmine hinge
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but everyone told me not to because it's insanely time consuming and difficult and i'm already doing that other required C/Lamp/everything else class next semester

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the linux kernel class is apparently the most difficult class existing pretty much

cedar spade
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huh didn't realise PCLinuxOS was still a thing

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awful branding

limber knotBOT
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PCLinuxOS will never die

carmine hinge
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I def want to take it in fall 2021 though

steel pulsar
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theres like 200 windows-like distros

carmine hinge
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it sounds exciting xD

steel pulsar
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kernel programming is pretty complicated yes

limber knotBOT
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I mean, the whole "kernel" aspect of the class more screams kernel development, not actually "working with linux", but, like course material often makes sense ¯_(ツ)_/¯

carmine hinge
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electronicboy: i think on the first day of class your homework is to get linux and compile it yourself

limber knotBOT
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ez

carmine hinge
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at the end of the course you are supposed to be able to make ur own linux distro

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and mess with the OS at different levels

limber knotBOT
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LFS

carmine hinge
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yeah, i think i'll try LFS summer 2021

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that way i can take the class with relative ease in the following fall xD

limber knotBOT
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fire up a VM is what I would do, it's pretty easy to leave it in the BG often

carmine hinge
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it sounds time consuming is the only issue

limber knotBOT
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stuff like libc is fucking arse and takes a good while to compile

carmine hinge
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this summer im insanely busy

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on weekdays im usually busy from the time i wake up to the time i sleep

limber knotBOT
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talking about sleep, am disappear

carmine hinge
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cya kek

quasi valley
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it's 5pm, is it not? oO

mossy vessel
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a good time for a nap panda_sleep

carmine hinge
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it's 12 PM here lol

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which is actually a good time for a nap

heady spear
minor badge
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you should really uhhh

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consider overloads for common template types

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e.g. primitives and plots

heady spear
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I would if adventure allowed you to extend the template classes =))))

minor badge
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oh it's adventure

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i see

heady spear
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I mean we could still do it and just have static methods calling static methods

plush vigil
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Hey there, does anyone know a good auto rank plugin, that workes with a timing setup?

heady spear
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but I originally just wanted to extend the string template class and make a plot template one or w/e

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but das not possible

minor badge
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suggest it

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i'm sure they won't mind

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if not extend, they'll probably add an interface or smth for it

wide chasm
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Is that code gonna handle placeholders the same? Cause some of those placeholders in the earlier code uses double % and some only use one %.

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Although, like, I'm not against making it consistent

worn ember
potent fossil
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Henlo stanky @minor badge

minor badge
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WTFWTFWTF

heady spear
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ye stef, we've rewritten all our messages to use minimessage's format

worn ember
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stupid swede

quasi valley
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you should play superliminal

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👀

worn ember
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hah i saw it pass in the comments a few times

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looks interesting

quasi valley
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only like 2 hours long, but definitely a nice experience

waxen panther
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Henlo stanky @minor badge

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no u

worn ember
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stop simping smh

quasi valley
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proxi's also a simp

heady spear
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proxi simps for me

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she sponsors me

quasi valley
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but u r as well

minor badge
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😳

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youre the only person i sponsor city xx

heady spear
waxen panther
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gross

heady spear
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we're undoing 6 years worth of damage

minor badge
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you're the 6 yrs of damage 😳

heady spear
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I was gone for half of that time so no 😠

minor badge
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you're the 3 yrs of damage 😳

unkempt drift
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that non euclidian shit is crazy

worn ember
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yeah

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its really trippy

potent fossil
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im the only simp here,

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fuck off fakes

heady spear
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idk dude, vic sent me a shit tonne of money only so he could be in my secret discord channel

potent fossil
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ok yea

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that is some simp shit

worn ember
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i didnt even have to spend money xD

heady spear
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that's just because i love u

worn ember
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ik you do ❤️

void void
sonic kiln
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Hows 1.16 performing compared to 1.15 for servers and hello everyone

quasi valley
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smh not saying hello first

cedar spade
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hello first

worn ember
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hello second

quasi valley
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slightly better, but if you want a fully 'stable' experience you might still want to wait a week or two (or even until 1.16.2) before upgrading

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but then of course to Paper, not Spigot 👀

sonic kiln
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Paper is love paper is life..

heady spear
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CraftBukkit for 1.14 has the best performance imo, quite underrated

sonic kiln
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1.16 has new mobs though, who doesnt love new mobs?

quasi valley
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CraftBukkit users of course

heady spear
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I don’t, I play on peaceful

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Mobs take up too much hard drive space and I can’t afford more than 32gb

ornate spindle
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that's why I play skyblock, chunks take up a lot of space

worn ember
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thats why i dont play minecraft

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@quasi valley do u mean 1.16.2

heady spear
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Btw fun fact, my cousin made Minecraft and then gave it to notch

quasi valley
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ah ye

heady spear
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Proxi, can you deliver some food

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I’m starving

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notch can suck a giant cock

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perhaps

heady spear
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I’m sure he can

worn ember
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i bet ur pp small

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😳

slender jay
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your cousin should have considered multithread

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city's pp is the smallest

heady spear
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I like to fantasise about notch

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He’s such a fine specimen

worn ember
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city his pp so small it grows inward

minor badge
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i too fantasise about racist & lgbtphobic scum 🤤

ornate spindle
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why multi-thread when you can just use a sempron for maximum performance

heady spear
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I’m also afraid of lgbt people

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They are scary

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pensive

heady spear
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One time an angry lesbian tried to fight me

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I’m glad she didn’t tho because she looked strong

worn ember
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why are you fighting lesbians

slender jay
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lmao

heady spear
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She was fighting me D:

worn ember
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shes the lesbian so clearly you were the on in the wrong

heady spear
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Also screw the “I don’t fight girls” shit, it’s sexist

worn ember
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equal rights amirite

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"she wanted equal rights so i beat her up like a man"

slender jay
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fair and square

worn ember
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i wonder if that holds up in court

mossy vessel
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I'd fight City

heady spear
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I’d wrestle you

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I did competitive judo, I know how to hug people on the ground while wearing glorified bathrobes

mossy vessel
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I know how to hug people as well ;)

slender jay
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I did competitive judo, I know how to hug people on the ground while wearing glorified bathrobes
that has to be the best way to describe judo

worn ember
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i got a green belt

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then i quit cuz some ginger bully

heady spear
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I was too fat as a kid tho

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when I was 12 I had to compete with the 14 year olds

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it sucked

still cape
next frost
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dont believe him

still cape
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i will be the judge of that

mossy vessel
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dont believe him
You don't know, shush

heady spear
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I wouldn't wanna get hugged by you ngl

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you probably smell weird

potent fossil
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like a german

golden gust
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Fite, fite, fite

next frost
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we'll visit city to hug him I guess?

mossy vessel
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I smell good smh

potent fossil
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does anyone know if the samsung wireless charger (the qi thing) can be made faster by using their 45w travel adapter (the "super fast charging 2.0" bs lol)

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or if it's capped

heady spear
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try it

mossy vessel
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I never tried wireless charging

potent fossil
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i'd have to buy a cable for it city

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so i can't

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i wanna know before i go spend

next frost
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qi is pretty slow in general

heady spear
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I would try but I don't have my samsung anymore

mossy vessel
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A cable? I thought it's wireless

heady spear
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and yes, wireless charging takes like 950 billion years

potent fossil
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cable for the wireless pad

mossy vessel
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kek

potent fossil
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so, i got the pad, and it comes with a little 15w plug

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and it's nice, it works

golden gust
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Qi is more limited by heat etc than "how much juice can we supply"

potent fossil
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just wondering if i switch it to the 45w, is it faster

heady spear
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i had a weird offbrand one tho

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made weird noises

potent fossil
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Yea, cat, the wireless pad actually has a fan in it

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For that reason

next frost
heady spear
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has anyone tested the ikea wireless charging shit

golden gust
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It's more the side where the sensitive and explosive battery is that's the concern

heady spear
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they have furniture with it built in

next frost
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stupid embeds

heady spear
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exploding batteries sounds cool

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simple u should try that

potent fossil
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ikr

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hold on, ima check my pad and see if it's 30w capable and samsung just gave me a 15

next frost
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Oh in the text it even says

As of 2019, the Medium Power standard currently delivers 30 to 65 W, it is expected to eventually support up to 200 W (typically used for portable power tools, robotic vacuum cleaners, drones and e-bikes)

potent fossil
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i think i just had a stroke reading this

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this is on samsung's website

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The Wireless Pad supports up to 9W up to 7.5W.

golden gust
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In the words of my people

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.rekt

limber knotBOT
potent fossil
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smh i might return this pad and just go buy another 45w adapter

next frost
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oof well, that must really take years to load

heady spear
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is it a typo tho?

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9 to 75

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would make way more sense

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9W as the maximum seems

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uh

potent fossil
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it could be

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idk, bah

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ill keep it

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but not my main charger

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just like for my desk or something

heady spear
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I kinda like wireless for just charging my phone while I'm at my computer

potent fossil
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yea thats what im thinking ill do

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ill put the really fast one somewhere else near my bed or something

heady spear
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put it up ur butt to see if it becomes supercharged

potent fossil
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my butt is already supercharged

heady spear
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prove it

viral hornet
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hot

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🥵

potent fossil
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no

quasi valley
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mfw my email provider throws hetzner invoices into spam

potent fossil
quasi valley
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good thing I set it not to delete what it thinks is spam just a few weeks ago 😂

steel pulsar
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i get emails from hetzner about abuse reports from the german federal office for information security like twice a week

quasi valley
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ripperoni looks like it actually swallowed the invoice from last month, my last payment was at the beginning of May for April snowy

fallen oracle
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Yikes

potent fossil
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im extremely bored smh

worn ember
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sucks to be you ig

finite wave
worn ember
potent fossil
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i did nothing sir

worn ember
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did it just magically decide to work again

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thats nice

potent fossil
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there are issues upstream in the spigot api

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but i dont have an XF license to work with

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the one i was using is not available anymore

worn ember
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F

potent fossil
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soo, ill have to buy XF to properly fix it

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not priority.

fallen oracle
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I think it was when I wiped the cache

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Cause it couldn't create more disk space

potent fossil
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kekw

worn ember
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well at least it works so i'm happy

fallen oracle
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I do need to restart the machine sooner or later. I'll probably do that this week.

worn ember
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i'm really annoyed you can only have 1 image as banner

heady spear
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what did u pay for the reviews

worn ember
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i paid with quality code sir

heady spear
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lmao

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sure

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nah but fr, $100?

potent fossil
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wdym 1 image as banner

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you can make as many banners as you want

worn ember
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i meant on spigot

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you can only have one

potent fossil
worn ember
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well if you want something to do

potent fossil
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i dont

worn ember
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make a banner stitcher KEKW

potent fossil
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i dont get it, what do you mean you can only have 1

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glare has two

worn ember
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hmm

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i tried adding more but it wouldnt let me

heady spear
potent fossil
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thonker

worn ember
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i wanted to add a kanguru image too

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and it said i could only have one PepeHands

potent fossil
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im so confused

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where

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in the sig or resource page

worn ember
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sig

potent fossil
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glare and city both have 2 so idk

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ur just dumb

quasi valley
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as expected

heady spear
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Ivan being back ruined spigot ngl

worn ember
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who?

quasi valley
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maybe that's why bungee is such a sad place

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there's pretty much only janm and ivan doing prs/commenting on them lefbad

heady spear
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glare is a donator 2, is it like a donator perk?

potent fossil
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it could be

worn ember
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mfw

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now it works

heady spear
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ok so ur just dumb*

potent fossil
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ah ok so he's just dumb

worn ember
finite wave
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There is size limits or mods will dm u

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I once got dmed due too big banner in my signature

worn ember
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i'll make it the size of ur pp dw

finite wave
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Just take a screen shot of them both and make em one

worn ember
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lame

potent fossil
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probably donor perk

worn ember
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imagine donating to spoop

heady spear
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the supporter badge looks cool

potent fossil
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idk, banner-api v2 will use svgs and let you sort of drag and drop components onto it. theoretically could support multiple data sources (more resources, author info, arbitrary data, etc)

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we'll see

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thats like

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way in the future

fallen oracle
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Gotta make prod stable first KEKW

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That's what I'ma do this week.

heady spear
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pls add a way to add custom stars

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I wanna round ps up to 5 stars because someone gave us a 4 star review before even trying the plugin

quasi valley
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gotta love 4.9 displayed as 4 and a half

potent fossil
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i just took those stars from the original banner api

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if you guys wanna make me some sprites ill put them in there

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basically pr or shut up

heady spear
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yes but also make the rounding less dumb

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otherwise I'll sue you for hurting my feelings

worn ember
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at least dum dums gave me 5 stars wen complaining

potent fossil
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make me some sprites that support other fractional stars and i will

heady spear
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We've only gotten 5 star ones besides that one stupid 4 star one

worn ember
limber knotBOT
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not using the real ratings 👀

potent fossil
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i only have 3 sprites. no, half, and full

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wdym phoenix

heady spear
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just display it as full then

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fixed

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ez pz

potent fossil
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no

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if it's 4.9, it's not 5 stars.

limber knotBOT
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weighted ratings for sorting vs real avarage of reviews ;)

potent fossil
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i wont do that

heady spear
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ill host my own version then

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bettermcbanners

quasi valley
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but it's also not 4.5

worn ember
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false advertising

potent fossil
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ok, hf

heady spear
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dark help me

worn ember
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no

potent fossil
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yeah, thats why i said pr me some new sprites or shut up

heady spear
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ill boot ur download count

worn ember
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you called my code trash

potent fossil
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also phoenix, i can only use what spigot lets me use

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sooo

worn ember
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so write it yourself 😉

heady spear
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stop bullying me

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wtf

potent fossil
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i had all the rating info in the api and md told me to remove it

heady spear
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you're all ganging up on me

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it's so unfair

quasi valley
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will people actually be able to tell that you have 4.9 stars? lmao

potent fossil
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because it wasnt available in the UI

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so, yea, go yell at md

worn ember
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just make the stars a mask over a yellow bar kappa

limber knotBOT
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p​im​pl​e: well it depends what you want to display tbh. you can calculate the sorting-rating based on the ratings and review count

worn ember
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that way you can have 4.9 easily

heady spear
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why don't you just hand draw every banner

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are you that lazy

potent fossil
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what, you want me to calculate my own rating values?

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fuck no

limber knotBOT
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

heady spear
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tf are we paying u for

worn ember
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city buy me a dedi plz

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@heady spear dum

heady spear
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stop pinging me wtf

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who tf r u

worn ember
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plz ban proxi

potent fossil
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the api i wrote for spigot gives the rating_avg table value

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so for guilds it is 4.53846

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if i have more sprites to show different fractions, i can do that, but im not going to show 5 stars for something that isn't 5; showing .5 when it's not a whole number is all i can do unless i get more sprites.

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im not an artist, so not happening

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last time, pr or shut up; if not, stop shitting down my throat please.

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dont need it.

worn ember
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dont need to be an artist to cut an image into pieces tho xD

heady spear
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go do itttt

potent fossil
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ok, then do it dark

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or dont use mcbanners

heady spear
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be a productive member of society

potent fossil
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i dont give a shit

worn ember
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i dont either tbh xD i'm just saying

minor badge
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simple do u want a birb image

potent fossil
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im so sick of ppl who wanna use but wont actually pr or help, they just wanna shit on it

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i dont get paid

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so fuck off

worn ember
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stupid city look what you did

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you pissed him off

heady spear
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to be clear, I think the current star system is more than good enough <.<

fallen oracle
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Neither of us do. I spend out of pocket monthly to keep it alive.

void void
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Ananyli

heady spear
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I'm just mad at the dude that gave me a shitty review for no reason

warm anchor
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Review is stupid on spigot though coz people can’t read or config plug in and use review to complain

minor badge
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so is that a yes to the birb

potent fossil
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sure, send birb. im going on a hike

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bye

heady spear
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the new banner stuff is like 950 billion times better than the old shit shrug_animated

limber knotBOT
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just reply to all reviews that you are willing to help and where to send them your config and stuff if they want to get help ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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shows people that actually care about reviews that you care about people with issues ;)

heady spear
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bro ur meant to be passive aggressive in the responses smh

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dum resource staff don't even know how the system works

worn ember
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yes but i'm not clicking on any resource with less than 5 stars

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thats disgusting

limber knotBOT
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good thing all of mine totally have 5 stars then 👀

heady spear
quasi valley
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every single answer to a non 5-star review should be a 50 line essay on why they are objectively wrong

limber knotBOT
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goes and deletes all the 4 star reviews

quasi valley
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and how they are just bullies

heady spear
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he hadn't even tested the bloody plugin and gave it 4 stars

quasi valley
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well you know what to do city, start writing the essay!

heady spear
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is dis kenny or vagdedes?

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can't tell

void void
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haha

worn ember
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vagded

quasi valley
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no if I were vagdedes I'd now advertise in your dms

void void
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goes to advertise in dms

heady spear
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lmao

quasi valley
void void
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wtf they called you cruel

heady spear
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this was the review

finite wave
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Ew

heady spear
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also this screenshot tool captures the screenshot selection

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it's fucking awful

quasi valley
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I mean at least that was a civil response, not a bitchy "omg how dare you call this bad, I will sue you"

worn ember
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wtf

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wall of text

void void
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the mc community does seem to have a few bad eggs

heady spear
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dude called IS a cruel development studio

worn ember
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rightfully

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you suck

heady spear
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right

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But I'm not cruel D:

mossy vessel
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doubt

void void
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OK

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30 pre releases

next frost
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you're not, but I am evil

thorny totem
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ugh memeacademy's support is either broke, can't seem to log-in despite correct creds, trying to reset the password, no email.

void void
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have they shut down!?

thorny totem
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don't know. Website still works and accessible, just not being able to log-in

ocean moon
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can i run more players on 1.14 or 1.15

void void
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15

ocean moon
#

really

#

hmm

#

everyone who ive talked to has said 1.15 is difficult for large player count

golden gust
#

1.14+ is difficult

worn ember
#

yeah but 1.14 was even worse

#

🙂

golden gust
#

Over time, paper has like... worked on stuff...

void void
#

life is difficult

slim nymph
#

1.14 is also the worst release in minecraft history

#

so.... why would you even ask

void void
#

1.13

slim nymph
#

id gladly go back to 1.13 at this point

#

1.13 was not the worst

ocean moon
#

im asking because im not familar with thos

void void
#

performance is poop

ocean moon
#

but thanks

worn ember
#

everything post 1.12 has been meh

void void
#

ON 1.13

slim nymph
#

yeah but 1.13 is better than 1.15 lol

void void
#

true

slim nymph
#

we had awesome chunks in 1.13

merry talon
#

everyone should go back to 1.7.10

worn ember
#

i still play modded 1.7.10

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

grand pewter
#

😬

quasi valley
#

bad ded

grand pewter
#

if you're not playing 1.17 what are you doing

worn ember
#

1.12 has better mods tho

merry talon
#

I wonder when we're getting 2.0

void void
#

when the revolution happens and paper overthrows mojang

ocean moon
#

may neptune strike ye dead winslow

thorny totem
#

Minecraft 2.0: Pink Withers

mighty storm
wide chasm
#

If you apply PECS that'd be some beautiful generics.

mighty storm
#

Wait, it's not as cursed, only need the hash map

#

phew

gleaming rivet
#

is it just me or is 1.16.1 better in terms of performance :O?

quasi valley
#

better than what

steady thunder
#

is 1.16 more stable than 1.15 in terms of optimization?

gleaming rivet
#

it feels like it

#

but i could be wrong

heady spear
#

wat is pecs

#

well I know what pecs are

#

but in dis context

next frost
#

Producer Extends Consumer Super

#

didn't you read Effective Java smh

heady spear
#

I was born with great knowledge. No need to read old dusty books, smh

next frost
#

what about ebooks then

heady spear
#

no dusty ebooks either

simple ridge
#

Is there any way to let players tp to spawn but nowhere else in the game? (sorry if this question does not belong here)

#

is it just me or is 1.16.1 better in terms of performance :O?
@gleaming rivet ngl been awful for me for some reason

hollow plaza
#

You can use Essentials's or EssentialsX's warps and make a warp to spawn

pulsar fox
#

You don't even need a warp, use essentialsx spawn, then you can just do /spawn

hollow plaza
#

Or that

simple ridge
#

I see, no idea what any of that is but sure. I'll figure it out, thanks.

#

Should work on 1.16?

hollow plaza
#

Yes

#

It's a plugin, just search it up

#

EssentialsX is a newer fork of Essentials

void void
#

oh god someone made an autobuild.sh thing that literally just does ./gradlew build

hollow plaza
#

Could be useful if you're on Linux

void void
#

how? you can just do ./gradlew build anyway

hollow plaza
#

Yes

#

If you don't want to open the console maybe

void void
#

eh the devs of it are kinda stupid. one of them edits in notepad cos they can't figure out intellij

#

and they don't know how to build it either

unkempt drift
#

an official product... costs $69.420

mighty storm
#

doesnt even load lol

void void
#

just weird shorts

mighty storm
#

the size and quanity dont at least

unkempt drift
#

yeah, the page is super slow

ocean bison
#

so I have this loop in my github actions:

- run: |
        for version in ${env:versions}
        do 
          java -jar ./temp/BuildTools.jar --rev $version;
        done
#

but it basically just skips the "java - jar . . ." part

#

any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

#

here is the output:

for version in ${env:versions}
    do java -jar ./temp/BuildTools.jar --rev $version;
  done
  shell: /bin/bash -e {0}
  env:
    versions: ${["1.14", "1.15", "1.16"]}
    JAVA_HOME: /opt/hostedtoolcache/jdk/8.0.252/x64
    JAVA_HOME_8.0.252_x64: /opt/hostedtoolcache/jdk/8.0.252/x64```
olive marlin
#

Andrew do set - x before the loop to see what commands are being run.

ocean bison
#

ok

olive marlin
#

Without the space after dash.

ocean bison
#

gotcha

#

huh

#

This is my output

#

tf

#

yeah so my guess is it didn't even touch the inside of the for loop

olive marlin
#

You can access the environment variables directly, without GA substitution.

#

Or use the matrix strategy, depending on your use case.

#

If you want to build like a plugin for each version, I'd probably go with matrix since you will get the clean environment for each version.

ocean bison
#

Right

#

Ill try matrix out

#

Ngl i have like 0 experience with bash

#

Or any sort of shell

olive marlin
#

Bash is the best language! How dare you!?!?

#

jk

ocean bison
#

Lmao

#

Well

#

Nows the time to start!!

void void
#

tbf bash scripts can look horrible sometimes

olive marlin
#

Every language can look horrible. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
#

they get the job done, but eh i wouldn't want to write lots of stuff in it

olive marlin
#

Especially when you don't know how they work.

worn ember
#

ur horrible

void void
#

yeah, i prefer to use them only to automate something simple, like copy, do A, do B, upload or whatever

olive marlin
#

Ngl, in the last 2 years, I've probably written more bash than any other language, combined.

void void
#

wat

worn ember
#

monkas

void void
#

poor you

olive marlin
#
  • programming language, since I've written quite a bit of YAML.
worn ember
#

i mean, its nice for install scripts but for more than that its kinda meh

pulsar fox
#

Ye my job is pretty much writing YAML, bash, and python lol

olive marlin
#

^^

pulsar fox
#

DevOps?

worn ember
#

sounds like a horrible job

#

lmfao

olive marlin
#

Yup.

#

I write python when bash is not enough. Just cause bash is everywhere, in ancient version that's modern enough etc.

finite wave
#

Just write rust, great.

olive marlin
#

Though I've written a bit of groovy magic for Jenkins.

#

I can't :/

#

I wish I could. Rust looked great, but never had time to learn it. Always other priorities.

#

2 more months to freedom though!

pulsar fox
#

@worn ember nah, I love it, but mostly because I'm a consultant so every day I'm helping different customers move random workloads into the cloud, so it's always a new challenge.

worn ember
#

dont consultants make mad stacks

olive marlin
#

I'm writting a bash script to manage my config files with replacement through git. So in git, you store config with placeholders (easy), then on deployment with one command, you get all secrets replaced with their values (also quite easy), but it also supports sync the other way, for when a plugin updates config (it's fucking awful lol).

pulsar fox
#

Depends I guess lol, but I make decent money

worn ember
#

i had some talks with old students from my college and they all said you should become consultant cuz you get a free company car, and make more than most other programming positions

#

for non seniors ofc

#

ig it depends on country and company and stuff

slim nymph
#

lol they trolled you hard

#

a company car for a dev? hahahahahaahaha

#

"money back in your basement"

pulsar fox
#

Oh, definitely. I work for a FAANG and our consultants make way more than our engineers.

worn ember
#

for a consultant yes

#

its a common thing here

slim nymph
#

do you mean contractor?

#

tf is a programming consultant

pulsar fox
#

I mean, I didn't get a company car, but I got a 30k signing bonus kek so I guess I coulda bought one

worn ember
#

someone that advises companies on what they should look for when they want x or y i guess

slim nymph
#

but yes c ontract positions do get paid more because they dont have that guaranteed sustained income

worn ember
#

oof

slim nymph
#

perm positions usually take 'normal' pay because its guaranteed income AND the business is paying benefits

#

contract doesnt get benefits, so the extra pay covers the extra pain

worn ember
#

oh yeah, i'm not planning on doing any of that

#

i hate people enough already

#

and i'm too honest lul

grand pewter
#

who do you hate

worn ember
#

people in general

grand pewter
#

you are a person. do you hate yourself?

#

😛

pulsar fox
#

Aikar, think dark pretty much covered the rough definition, but yea, software engineering consultants are def a thing lol

#

I spent ~6 years as a SME consultant for Symfony framework

worn ember
#

i mean, i dont hate myself, but imo people care too little about long term consequences and are very short sighted and it bothers me

#

idk

#

its complicated

pulsar fox
#

last ~ 5 years as a DevOps consultant

worn ember
#

i used to work as order picker, there's not really that much talking involved lol

twin lagoon
#

@vernal moth how does one set up toothpick

still cape
#

funny to walk in on this.... i was just coming to look for RoboMWM to see if he would take over or do a version of ssearch

pulsar fox
#

doesn't it have docs ThinkOn

sonic kiln
#

whats the best version of java to be running with minecraft atm?

hollow plaza
#

8 probably

pulsar fox
#

the latest your plugins run on

ocean bison
#

wait so using matrix I would need my own action.yml?

#

or whatever those are called

vernal moth
#

@vernal moth how does one set up toothpick
@twin lagoon pray to the dependency gods that all deps you have match

#

Hint: non of them are in repos 😂

twin lagoon
#

oh it's not even that

vernal moth
#

The pushed version also isn't updated to 1.16

#

I only have that locally

twin lagoon
#

./gradlew mojangMappings

#

it fucks up on that

vernal moth
#

Need to run other shit first iirc

twin lagoon
#

i've done the entire thing

#

atlas, lorenz on fix/mercury-14

#

setup upstream

vernal moth
#

Ah, what does it complain about?

twin lagoon
#

"invalid environment settings"

vernal moth
#

Ah, that's from the parser in mercury

#

Or well, ast

twin lagoon
#

mini pls fix

vernal moth
#

Wait for paperweight 🤷

twin lagoon
vernal moth
#

That's the proper way to do this

#

Or ask Yannick what he did

#

Am go sleep

twin lagoon
#

goddammit yannick

#

k watch me fucking nail this

pulsar fox
vestal jasper
#

All my experiences with toothpick consist of each step failing in some way and me spending hours fixing them only to find even more issues preventing it from being usable pepehands

#

I think I gave up when it wanted the paper mojangapi module

wide hazel
twin lagoon
wide hazel
#

I'm hesitant to boost here because then it looks like I paid to be where I am

#

though it's less of an issue now that I'm not a mod 😛

#

otherwise, definitely boost-worthy

#

surprised Paper isn't level 2, actually

#

let's get that 1080p60 streams

vestal jasper
wide hazel
#

and 256kbps audio

#

eyy 😄

vestal jasper
twin lagoon
#

@topaz mortar where the fuck is mercury 0.1.1

void void
#

vics making us wait

vestal jasper
#

I only have 2 sorry

#

Not spending money on this shit hole

void void
#

we'll have to survive somehow

finite wave
#

Phat

waxen panther
hazy veldt
#

Do boosts even do anything? The server already has the open source partner stuff

limber knotBOT
#

they help keep the suffering that is discord going

worn pasture
viral hornet
#

Welcome back, brother

worn pasture
#

Today is a strange day

unreal quarry
#

Indeed it is. It's 6pm and I just woke up...

cosmic raft
viral hornet
#

it's ok

#

It's 9am and I still haven't slept from last night

swift root
#

hi cammo

subtle bridge
#

Do y'all know of any plugin that gives player statistics? As in, you can see the players that logged in and out through the day, what time the server peaked that day, etc..! @ me

celest coyote
#

https://shop.tesla.com/product/tesla-short-shorts

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quick pasture
twin lagoon
#

or for something easier, Plan

subtle bridge
#

Thanks

mighty storm
#

Do boosts even do anything? The server already has the open source partner stuff
@hazy veldt Verified servers get everything from boosting except audio quality (I think?), the Max file upload limit (for non nitro members), and emojis.

#

Level 3 boosted servers get everything verified servers have except for announcement channels and the ability to go Public

#

So, do they do things? yeah, but it's still not worth it unless you really have nowhere else to use them

#

Banner is 15 boosts so $4.99 * 15 for non-nitro users or $3.49 * 15 for nitro users (obviously assuming they aren't using their free boosts)

#

So, yes, discord is pay to win

limber knotBOT
#

Do a version of ssearch???? Wuts dat

#

Dahek is a robohash phoenix616

#

.log

#

Ok i c

slim nymph
#

these shorts def feel like an elon troll

#

$69.420

void void
#

🇨 🇦 🇰 🇪

slim nymph
#

O.o I had no idea about the Britney Spears situation, I thought she just disappeared for a while

#

this is pretty messed up

worn ember
#

Wait what

fallen oracle
#

Wait what

slim nymph
#

apparently her dads got her under legal slavery where he controls her entire life

#

for past 12 yrs

fallen oracle
#

Tf

worn ember
#

Legal slavery???

#

Lol wat

twin lagoon
static badge
#

wat

twin lagoon
#

assuming some teenage legal contract fuck up

slim nymph
#

from her breakdown in 2008

#

filed that she has dementia

#

but, shes out doing world tours and shit

fallen oracle
#

Weird.

worn ember
#

Meh

fallen oracle
#

That only goes down

worn ember
#

Imagine being famous smh

void void
#

where is my table

fallen oracle
#

I mean, I had 15,000 upvotes on a Reddit post, so, I think I can relate to how she feels.

void void
worn ember
#

Lmao

void void
#

is it hard to add custom items?.. me and friends that play on our own server always joked about "when are they going to add dirt stairs to minecraft?!?".....but i was thinking, i wonder how hard it would be to actually add themthonk

#

that sounds like forge

fallen oracle
#

I mean you can do it with a texturepack

void void
#

or that

#

yeah but wouldn't texturepack have to over-write an existing stairs already?

fallen oracle
#

True

#

Items are easier than block

void void
#

bread

shell vine
#

its easy to add custom full blocks

#

not stairs tho

void void
#

oh, well crud

shell vine
#

just look up ItemsAdder

twin lagoon
#

we have dirt slabs

shell vine
#

very cool plugin

twin lagoon
void void
#

k i might, thanks

worn pasture
#

my poor girl can't catch a break

void void
#

hello

rose lion
#

Lmao that video

void void
serene bolt
#

9.32 MB lol the good old days

fallen oracle
#

Uh oh, that's higher than the SpigotMC upload limit.

void void
#

i guess minecraft back then was not filled with bloat all over

#

hmm i wonder if my plugin will run

potent fossil
#

wtf

#

IJ will not fucking start

#

It just stops on the fucking splash and never does anything.

rose lion
#

It's sunday, IJ is probably taking the day off

void void
#

IJ almost looks like U

potent fossil
#

nvm turns out it locked up and every time i tried to open it again, it opened a new fucking process

#

had to kill like 30 IJs

#

they were all locked up

#

fantastic

void void
#

thats why u use eclipse

rose lion
#

No

void void
#

yes

worn ember
#

Yesnt

fallen oracle
#

Okay.

uncut berry
#

Does anyone know of some good backups plugin for spigot/paper?

potent fossil
#

No backup plugin.

#

A plugin should not do backups.

uncut berry
#

Backups of the whole server I mean

worn ember
#

Wubwub dub dub

uncut berry
#

For rollbacks and such

potent fossil
#

a plugin should not be responsible for taking backups.

#

you have to do them externally.

#

stop server, copy files, start server.

finite wave
#

What, how big brain were you when you got that idea?

worn ember
#

Who

sacred eagle
#

Do they mean keeping more than 1 world save to role back to?

uncut berry
#

Well wanted something like aromabackup for forge

#

I mean

#

For spigot

#

Restoring from backup

sacred eagle
#

so keeping backups of world saves

uncut berry
#

Not only world files

#

All server files

#

And I guess I could make a cron job

#

Yeah I guess

sacred eagle
#

PerfectBackup is the only plugin ive ever seen, dont know if it still works though

golden gust
#

use rsnapshot or something

#

ez incremental backups

cobalt surge
#

But I don't wanna...

toxic ember
#

how do you transfer owner ship of files to a new linux group

#

all my poi files are owned by root

pulsar fox
#

chown <user>:<group> accomplishes both in the same command

warm anchor
#

^ file/folder path if needed

glad narwhal
#

does anybody know which assembler java uses? I started to learn bytecode editor and to edit smth i need to use assembler but it's not look like assembler

golden gust
#

it's JVM bytecode

ancient bolt
#

lol

#

Me: I'll just add some code here to skip constructor params when I don't find them in minecraft code, that can't be too slow

#

Meanwhile, 15 minutes in: still going

glad narwhal
#

at very least i can translate plugins

ancient bolt
#

There's potentially a few ways I could address the constructor name issues, and maybe I will

#

but for now I'll say that's okay

waxen panther
carmine hinge
#

.flags

limber knotBOT
carmine hinge
#

How stable is paper 1.16.1 rn?

waxen panther
#

yes

carmine hinge
#

ohh

#

thanks

round cedar
#

loads up faster than 1.15.2 for me

carmine hinge
#

different people are telling me different things lol

#

some ppl are saying it's unstable and i should wait a month

#

others are saying its fine and i should just upgrade

#

not sure who to believe

round cedar
#

1.16's the one at 13.7s

waxen panther
#

startup time means almost nothing sadly

round cedar
#

my PC's a potato pc btw

waxen panther
#

but yeah it's not quitteee as good as 1.15 but it's barely noticeable with optimisations

round cedar
#

I get more frames with 1.16 as well

carmine hinge
#

see i'm on 1.12

#

so rn i actually have good performance

#

but my server is too small to get away with staying on an outdated version much longer

fallen oracle
#

I think that's enough Reddit for today. Just came across a post of Belle Delphines version of 6ix9ine's song, but it has 6ix9ine's face deepfaked on it.

carmine hinge
#

i just don't wanna spend days updating to 1.16 only to find that the tps is stuck on 13 because of entities or something and having to go back 😛

pulsar fox
#

@fallen oracle link?

finite wave
#

Overall my experience with 1.16 has been quite favourable the loading times are also super quick now.

carmine hinge
#

ooh, loading times are faster?

#

thats a big plus

#

faster than 1.12?

finite wave
#

Maybe? They just speed out there and bam laoded.

carmine hinge
#

ok thats actually huge for my server

#

cause people load chunks like there's no tomorrow

fallen oracle
#

Its on the Reddit front page under /r/MakeMeSuffer

carmine hinge
#

jan, how many players do you have?

potent fossil
#

i am disgusted

#

belle is so fucking nasty

slim nymph
#

mojang did improve startup times themselves

#

they finally too kour advice on log4j

potent fossil
rose lion
#

Nice

unreal quarry
#

uses nametag on @quasi valley to rename him to dinnerbone

slim nymph
#

1.17 has some good potential, were in better communication with mojang now, but this is relatively newish towards end of 1.16, so now if we can keep pushing for shit for 1.17 lets see what we can get done 🙂

#

that one is sadly less likely

#

thats more in line with data driven pathway but thats not urgent priority for them

glad narwhal
#

Why Mojang can't just make big and stable update, but not that shit they usually do every half of the year

slim nymph
#

well 1.16 hasnt been bad

#

they def improved

#

this has honestly been one of the most pain free updates in a very long time

#

client rendering

glad narwhal
#

content was good, but without optifine you can't play it freely

slim nymph
#

they are still working on client rendering changes

waxen panther
#

ah yes the "why can't X just do a good update"

neat smelt
#

there is optifine for 1.16.1

slim nymph
#

and for some, fps supposively is better on 1.16

#

for others, its worse

#

its maybe doable barty

#

i dont know the client code 😛

glad narwhal
#

what's the problem just buy optifine, it's the most sellable game it the world

unreal quarry
#

armor doesnt have modles. its a layer in the entity renderer

slim nymph
#

optifine refused

golden gust
#

general gist is that data driving stuff means migrating all of the existing code to permit that

unreal quarry
#

like skins

slim nymph
#

optifine wont let mojang acquire it without baggage

glad narwhal
#

i heard that they wanted to buy half of the code

slim nymph
#

yes

glad narwhal
#

but optifne refused

slim nymph
#

the parts that matter

#

but optifine wants them to take the shit that doesnt make sense

glad narwhal
#

example?

potent fossil
#

such as?

slim nymph
#

capes?

potent fossil
#

oh

slim nymph
#

zooming

glad narwhal
#

wha?

slim nymph
#

the other misc features

potent fossil
#

i mean zooming should be in the game tbqh

glad narwhal
#

zooming is pretty useful

slim nymph
#

optifine is more than fps boost

neat smelt
#

zooming is great tho

potent fossil
#

shader support would be nice...

glad narwhal
#

and capes too

potent fossil
#

dont need capes tbh.

#

but the other shit yes

glad narwhal
#

especially when they don't give them

slim nymph
#

mojang wants to keep capes as their own special items

#

they do, i have 2 capes 😛

neat smelt
#

:p

glad narwhal
#

they don't give them now

#

since 2018

#

optifine is the last change to get them

#

and opti supports cape customisation

#

you can make whatever cape you want

unreal quarry
#

not any cape

#

youre limited to banner designs

tired heath
#

would be nice barty, indeed

golden gust
#

it's basically seemingly in their todo list

glad narwhal
#

optifine has dynamic item model support, so you can make RP based on some nametag

golden gust
#

I'd rather have entities pulled over first though

#

That's useful for me

#

😄

fallen oracle
#

Has anyone ran forge on 1.16 yet? My client never launches AngryEyes

glad narwhal
#

waiting when mojang add custom armor model support

fallen oracle
#

I mean you can for helmets

unreal quarry
#

doubt armor models will ever be a thing.. armor is literally just 2 layers in the entity renderer, same as player skins

waxen panther
fallen oracle
#

But in 1.16.2 you can pass leather as custom

zealous wedge
#

optifine is just piles and piles of legacy code

#

i doubt mojang could directly do much even if they did just buy the mod

fallen oracle
#

Yes but you can resource pack that

zealous wedge
#

the optifine strategy for a while has been to just stomp on everything the client's doing

fallen oracle
#

Ahh, true.

#

I tried using lithium but didn't see a difference

sharp sentinel
#

Yeah idk why OptiFine is so popular when half the people I know who use it end up with worse perceived performance, but better FPS

shell vine
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id say the opposite

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its way smoother

zealous wedge
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lithium is mostly a server mod

sharp sentinel
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Like sure having the FPS higher is great, but if the perceived performance is worse why bother

unreal quarry
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the reason armor isnt a model, barty, is because 1 piece of armor is drawn differently on every entity that can wear it. it's actually the entity itself that simply has layers on it to handle the armor textures 😉

zealous wedge
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sodium is the most client-focused one

sharp sentinel
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I mean yeah it smooths frames out but increases latency from what I've seen

magic ice
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I've heard great things about sodium

sharp sentinel
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So less spikes

fallen oracle
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I haven't been able to run optiifne on 1.16 yet, mainly cause I crash when I try to run forge on 1.16

zealous wedge
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yeah, sodium has worked pretty well for me

potent fossil
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I haven't experienced any worse performance using optifine.

zealous wedge
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optifabric exists

sharp sentinel
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Just use OptiFabric :^)

fallen oracle
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Oh?

potent fossil
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But then again, don't even need it. I just use it for shaders.

fallen oracle
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I'll try it

zealous wedge
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but also optifabric messes with WECUI

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well optifine itself

fallen oracle
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Idek what that is

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So I'm good

waxen panther
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forge dumb

neat smelt
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optifine works perfect for me, the game is waaaay smoother

unreal quarry
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so, if you wanted to add a new armor "model" you'd have to not only design a texture for it, but add the layers to every single entity that can wear it, barty.

sharp sentinel
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OptiFine always lowers performance for me, but then again I find my performance is fine without it. OptiFine actually makes my client lag with lots of entities, whereas without it everything is fine

slim nymph
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why is install fabric disabled on my multimc but forge isnt

potent fossil
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Is there an alternative way to use shaders sans optifine?

fallen oracle
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Depends on version

potent fossil
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If not, then that's why people use it.

glad narwhal
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what's multimc?

fallen oracle
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Aikar try running latest forge on 1.16

zealous wedge
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not yet simple -- that is why

fallen oracle
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Does it load?

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Mine crashes

slim nymph
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oh prob cause it was running session

sharp sentinel
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1.16 has post processing shader support right? Or did they remove that before release

zealous wedge
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there are people working on shaders mods for fabric, but the hard part is supporting the existing optifine format

unreal quarry
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its not as easy as it sounds, barty. how many forge mods, for example, do you see add new armor model types (not just retextures.. but actual new layers on entities)

slim nymph
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worked when i cloned profile

neat smelt
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never faced any issues with optifine like you Me4502

works well for me, with the correct settings ofc

zealous wedge
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it does in fabulous graphics mode, but that can't do most of what ppl want

fallen oracle
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Yeah but what about forge

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Fabric runs fine on 1.16

potent fossil
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oh no dont break the api what would sonic ether do...so much work for his poor lifestyle...... /s

limber knotBOT
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MC had post processing shaders a long time ago

sharp sentinel
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Yeah but it's in resource packs now

zealous wedge
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that was the whole super secret settings thing

limber knotBOT
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All those funky effects you could randomly cycle through

waxen panther
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i miss the secret shader button thing pensiveFlushed

sharp sentinel
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Ngl only thing I'd want it for is antialiasing

unreal quarry
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items are different, barty

limber knotBOT
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FXAA sucks though :P

unreal quarry
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^_^

zealous wedge
waxen panther
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i haven't played mc outside of testing in like 7 months anyway pepelaugh

sharp sentinel
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I just like my testing world to look good 😛

glad narwhal
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we have so much cheat-clients by optifine

sharp sentinel
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wut

unreal quarry
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its all in the renderer, barty. like, for example, did you know every single entity model is actually upside down and the coordinate space is all inverted?

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everything changes when you get into the entity renderers

glad narwhal
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don't we?

left swift
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They're called utility clients peepoSip

sharp sentinel
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How is optifine allowing cheat clients, and even if it did - why would people do that rather than just make cheats directly?

neat smelt
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well some cheat clients are using optifine, but optifine isnt making it easier for developing them

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bc optifine works great and improves the game performance

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oh

unreal quarry
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thats just how it is, barty. entity rendering is fucking weird.. why do you think notch made a creeper instead of a pig? he's not stupid... its just those renderers are assbackwards and hard to work with

golden gust
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probs more a "throwing optifine in there makes it more attractive"

waxen panther
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300x fps boost feelscoronaman