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austere ivy
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why does it say that it's successful ;D

still cape
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i have not shown them the color ones yet

void void
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wget https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper-1.16/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paperclip-47.jar

still cape
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now i am going to check out sharex

thorny totem
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sharex ftw

void void
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thats a different problem

austere ivy
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correct

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what problem is it thonk

void void
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u might not have permission

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in that dir

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check perms

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ls -ls?

void void
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ok lol

hazy veldt
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Not sure how wget responds to out of disk space but maybe check that

austere ivy
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that's it ;D

woven otter
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-1/12 that's a great username

austere ivy
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what? I just see 1+2+3+4+5+6...

hazy veldt
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I see people in this chat have massive IQ levels

woven otter
austere ivy
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yeah I'm in the double digits

void void
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haha

hazy veldt
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Is where you're trying to download on the same partition as root?

still cape
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iq is overrated

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personality and temperament have high value

hazy veldt
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True

potent fossil
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lol

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no

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stupid people fucking suck

vagrant niche
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self deprecating, simple?

still cape
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takes one to know one?

wide chasm
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Lax why did you steal my joke

potent fossil
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says the person who finds it too difficult to get logs from multiverse

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actually

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says the person who uses multiverse

finite wave
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Wb fish bo

potent fossil
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but

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fuck

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ok you know

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i give up

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beer time

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i meant multicraft for both of those but brain no work

wide chasm
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Simple uses alcohol as a disguise for their stupidity
runs

vagrant niche
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are you sure its beer and not piss?

potent fossil
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@vagrant niche it's pretty much piss beer

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blue moon

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i have some craft brews tho

vagrant niche
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Hyperverse 4lyfe

still cape
twin lagoon
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jesus christ

serene bolt
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wtf delete that

unkempt drift
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lol

void void
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lmao

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can I just do [] for the groups, blockedcommands and perrmisisons?

mossy vessel
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.paste ew

limber knotBOT
void void
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all I need to know and I'll delte my crap

hazy veldt
void void
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ok i go there i forgot abuot those help channels

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srry

fiery quest
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is 1.16.1 still buggy?

fierce wedge
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it's minecraft

fiery quest
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like for some reason items are missing from chests and inventories arent being saved

mossy vessel
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I heard they fixed all issues by end of the week

fiery quest
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hm

void void
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it has an option called async-chunks

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in paper.yml

limber knotBOT
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vanilla uses more cores than one btw ;)

golden gust
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game is still tied to a singular thread for ticking, but, threads are used for other things such as IO and networking

limber knotBOT
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paper just tries to do more stuff if possible on different threads

golden gust
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4 cores is generally the recommended minimum

vast idol
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When your work mates always want you to play bedrock because no one owns PCs these days

dreamy marten
spice finch
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What's geyser?

austere ivy
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barty that emote makes me feel uncomfortable

worn ember
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No u gey sir

spice finch
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Can't Google anything about it

austere ivy
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I am sending you a cease and disist

winter stirrup
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GeyserMC is what you're gonna' wanna search

magic mesa
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I think geyser is a proxy that support java and bedrock

spice finch
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No u gey sir
peepowtf

limber knotBOT
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it's viaversion but for bedrock thinksmart

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(instead of newever versions)

spice finch
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Why doesn't it allow joining bedrock servers using java edition

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that'd be nice feature

limber knotBOT
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because they didn't want to add that

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blame Mojang

worn ember
finite wave
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Probably more than 1 commit?

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I've seen it shit itself on that

golden gust
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The changes are already in the repo, they where just pushed to another branch

finite wave
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oh i see

worn ember
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Poopy site that's why ;)

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Let's bully them

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Cat is ๐Ÿ’ฉ

finite wave
worn ember
finite wave
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Are you dropping 1.15 soon?

void void
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a

worn ember
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Not until 1.16 is stable

finite wave
worn ember
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And then probably a bit of transition time

slim nymph
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no, nothings changing yet

finite wave
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Multicraft panel api only supplies a full api util in php whyyy

slim nymph
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just moving to master to auto close issues since master was unused anyways

finite wave
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I see

slim nymph
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as 1.15 had already moved to branch

vagrant niche
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Yeah, master is a racist term we wouldn't want that

finite wave
worn ember
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Ohno

vagrant niche
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#CancelPaper

finite wave
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Petition to make Lax a developer to fix issues regarding race

worn ember
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Wouldn't renaming master to main be racist to whites tho? As they were the masters? Runs

unkempt drift
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๐Ÿ‘€

finite wave
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No one cares about the white plebs darkeye

worn ember
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True PepeHands

vagrant niche
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ayyy, make me tru paper president

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My first order of business git checkout --oprhan daddy

unreal quarry
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i set my repo up so all branches are just versions. nothing is master or main or primary etc ๐Ÿ˜›

worn ember
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I made a repo master cuz I'm edgy like that

unreal quarry
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we're all masters here

vagrant niche
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#MakePaperGreatAgain

worn ember
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#Pcmainrace

finite wave
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I just use default git shit

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Don't care at all

worn ember
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I have feature branches and main and dev

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Well master

spice finch
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git push origin main, how that sounds god damn

finite wave
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Would push off my habits

spice finch
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I got used to git push origin master

round sleet
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Any plugins that allow me to change the default player health?

finite wave
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Probably

limber knotBOT
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pushing directly to master ๐Ÿ‘€

finite wave
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I mean, i can always drop a commit or two

round sleet
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does /setworldspawn change the spawn chunks that get loaded

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yes it does

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great

unkempt drift
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๐Ÿ™‚

hearty cloak
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Just curious, would the java flags used for the server be better than the default flags for clients? Assuming you adjusted the ram allocation ofc.

worn ember
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For which?

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Use the server flags for servers obviously

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They're like that for a reason

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Cuz they've proven to work

hearty cloak
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That wasn't what I meant...

void void
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iirc aikars flags work nicely for the client

worn ember
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Well what you asked wasn't very clear

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ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

hearty cloak
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I was very clear but I'll clarify further since you asked.

worn ember
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I didn't tho

hazy veldt
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He wants to use server flags on the client

hearty cloak
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Compares to the default G1GC flags applied to vanilla MC clients, wouldn't the G1GC flags from Aikar be better?

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The main difference with the flags for the server has to do with ram allocation. Am I wrong?

limber knotBOT
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the issue is that the client does more than just run a server

worn ember
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I've ran the client with the flags and honestly haven't noticed any difference

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That was on modded tho

hearty cloak
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Well I guess it doesn't really matter that much I just wanted some outside opinions on the thought.

void void
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i've heard of aikars flags being better than optifine for some people, but yeah it seems to vary wildly

worn ember
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I mean optifine is worse for me

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So that doesn't say anything

void void
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haha

worn ember
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I get more stutter and spikes than without

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I don't need it tho so idc

void void
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huh

hearty cloak
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A couple of years ago I did read through all the G1GC docs but I'm sure a lot has changed since then so I should probably reread them and run some tests to find out what works the best.

worn ember
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Probably. Question is if it's worth the time

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You won't get that much more out of it

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At least not client side

carmine hinge
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anyone know anything about zfs?

finite wave
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Not really

vagrant niche
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I know anythign about Z750

carmine hinge
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i got a new dedicated server. i want to use zfs compression on it, but it comes with some lvm setup or something

finite wave
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What is the size of his pinky?

carmine hinge
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not sure if i need to reformat the whole thing and use zfs on the whole drive, or if it's possible to make a zfs partition

finite wave
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try

carmine hinge
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i can't find any tutorials that show how to make a partition with it

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they all just tell you how to set it up on 2 or more drives

void void
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the discord voice chat is so chill rn

vagrant niche
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I'm waiting for the scheduled AikarSMR

merry talon
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wtf is this shit

vagrant niche
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Hi @merry talon

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wer u been

merry talon
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here

void void
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sweep

vagrant niche
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wheres the hot grill on your avatar

void void
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im gonna need a sweeper

merry talon
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i didnt want you looking at her

vagrant niche
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aww :(

merry talon
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spotted when was the last time you felt an emotion

unreal quarry
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leaves dont feel

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they only burn

vagrant niche
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When's the last time u me spotted and night played OW :(

merry talon
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when OW was relevant

vagrant niche
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whats the new relevant game now

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apex legends? frok nite?

fierce wedge
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Valorant

vagrant niche
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I heard its a kernel level virus

merry talon
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like most things

fierce wedge
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doesn't mean it's not relevant ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

vagrant niche
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not releveant to me

merry talon
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its ok you arent relevant either

fierce wedge
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LaxWasHere: whats the new relevant game now

finite wave
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roblox

merry talon
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wtf do you mean sea pickle

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are those in the game now

finite wave
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yes

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They can cluster together more than one too

merry talon
waxen panther
hearty cloak
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For a server of probably not even 10 people at a time is 8GB overkill for it? It's just a standard vanilla paper server, no plugins.

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I have 16GB total and run Arch so the OS could definitely run on less than a gig if it had to but I should still have plenty of RAM left over from the server anyway.

hollow plaza
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Even 6 GB is probably too much, but I'm not entirely sure

hearty cloak
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Originally I had it on 4GB but I guess maybe I misread something and thought it needed more. I think 4GB would probably still be okay.

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I just don't want to waste memory.

vast idol
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Lmao sea pickles have been since 1.13. 3 more versions have been released since

hollow plaza
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4 GB is enough until you know you definitely need more I think

hearty cloak
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Thanks man. I'll set it back to 4GB untill I actually need more.

vast idol
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Just bump it up 1gb at a time as you notice issues later

void void
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@void void hello

potent fossil
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10 ppl on latest? i would do no less than 6, with 2 for overhead caused by aikar's flags -- so 8.

waxen panther
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800

potent fossil
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10 is the standard (with 2 overhead, so 12)

void void
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@void void hello

waxen panther
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stop spam pinging the poor man

void void
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Heโ€™s the dogshit server owner

waxen panther
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and?

void void
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who owns newwind

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He hasnโ€™t started an event

waxen panther
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what does that have to do with Paper

void void
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Cuz

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Why not

waxen panther
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still nothing to do with paper

void void
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๐Ÿ’ฉ

waxen panther
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go dm him or spam him somewhere where it's relevant lol

void void
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Sorry are you mod?

waxen panther
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idrc it's annoying me when someone is asking a valid question

potent fossil
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this is the off topic channel breh

waxen panther
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zzzzzz

potent fossil
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if someone is asking a question in here, but an off topic convo starts, then the ideal move is to migrate to paper-help for the question and keep the off topic here

void void
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Why hasnโ€™t old nbt tags from 1.15 been fixed from transferring to 1.16

potent fossil
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wat

void void
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and non stackable

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Shut up

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Olly32L

potent fossil
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im letting everyone who is impatient test 1.16 for me before i update

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im shooting for next week some time

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thats great, im still waiting

void void
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Imagine not playing minewind

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Also when 1.17 paper coming out

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?!?!?!

potent fossil
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wtf is minewind

void void
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It is

waxen panther
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sounds stupid

void void
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Fu k that shit

waxen panther
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anime is stupid

void void
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Newwind better

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Why am I here?

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am I not allowed?

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@mod help

potent fossil
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what did he do to break the rules

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i mean

warm anchor
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@waxen panther ๐Ÿ‘‹

potent fossil
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advertising, i guess

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to some extent

waxen panther
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hello eter nity flushedOMG

warm anchor
waxen panther
pulsar wigeon
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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notmyjob

mighty storm
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wiz why are you blue now

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wait, thats not blue

pulsar wigeon
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i was too cool for the cool kids club so they took away my table ๐Ÿ˜Ž

mighty storm
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darn, rip your tables

waxen panther
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hate my table

wintry chasm
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yo olly32a start summer event on newind

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we are all waiting on ur server to start it

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it's july fourth dude

waxen panther
wintry chasm
ancient bolt
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jamie found an annoying issue with lorenz...not sure how to fix it

cobalt surge
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steals wiz's table

runs away

vagrant niche
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puts a brand new table for wiz โ”ฌโ”€โ”ฌ ใƒŽ( ใ‚œ-ใ‚œใƒŽ)

cobalt surge
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steals that table too

vagrant niche
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โ”ฌโ”€โ”ฌ ใƒŽ( ใ‚œ-ใ‚œใƒŽ)

cobalt surge
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Lax... No more tables I can only hold so many

ancient bolt
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But I see even more clearly how package mappings would be difficult

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but I know how to handle this situation, it's not a bug in lorenz

fervent elm
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anyone know how to prevent them from breaking the bedrock?

unkempt drift
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paper should already patch breaking of unbreakable blocks

warm anchor
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It is patched already.

void void
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plz let me in

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my discord lagged out

waxen panther
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boost

void void
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ty

chilly trout
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i have a quick question:

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what is this set to in vanilla mc?

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merge-radius:

ancient bolt
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but yeah I'm struggling to get field and method signatures to map properly with the package name

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ooh wait no I think I need to change how I'm approaching this

potent fossil
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@chilly trout the default value in the config is the vanilla value

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paper doesn't change it by default

chilly trout
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oh, great to hear. thank you @potent fossil

potent fossil
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np

void void
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Report proxy onlinde mode to bstats as online

vestal jasper
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Billy prs getting merged. Pog.

nocturne summit
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Is there a video or a thing for breaking bedrock on a paper server?

unkempt drift
nocturne summit
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Thanks.

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@unkempt drift Right I understand about the server settings. What if we don't know how to do it or if we're doing it right?

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Right now we're assuming the settings are set to true.

unkempt drift
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the default settings are to prevent breaking of unbreakable blocks

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but the normal vanilla methods should work if the settings are set to allow breaking of bedrock

nocturne summit
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Could updating reset the setting to false? We just updated the server and reset our nether.

unkempt drift
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no, it shouldn't

nocturne summit
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Alright. Do you have a good video for it?

unkempt drift
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just google around for one, I don't know any

kindred storm
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you should learn to figure things out without a video

hushed fjord
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Does anyone know if it's possible to turn off nether fog server wide?

unkempt drift
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is the nether fog client side?

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based on biome?

hushed fjord
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Well I know that Optifine can turn it off but I was wondering if Paper could do it server wide

ancient bolt
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jamie okay I think this is a lorenz bug

cosmic raft
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.etf

limber knotBOT
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When using Paper, EntityTrackerFixer is no longer needed. In the optimization guide, it is on there for Spigot servers. Paper implements the fixes that EntityTrackerFixer does and when using EntityTrackerFixer on Paper, it does more harm rather than good. Your server is essentially work 2x as hard.

cosmic raft
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@fallen oracle

fallen oracle
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Ty

pulsar wigeon
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working

ancient bolt
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When I apply classname changes to a mapping set types of the members don't get mapped

mighty storm
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Your server is essentially work 2x as hard.
same energy as
Report proxy onlinde mode to bstats as online

heady spear
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oMG soMeOne maDe a TypO

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PeAk cOmEdy

mighty storm
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ikr lmeo

unreal quarry
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Not even my typo :p

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runs away

limber knotBOT
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ah yes, billy pr

unreal quarry
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The best ones ^_^ that's why they get their own label \o/

unkempt drift
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oh man, it was Aikar who made the typo....

mighty storm
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poor aikar

ancient bolt
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god damn

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this looks beautiful

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I have spigot completely mapped to srg, with only a few access modifier issues (which doesn't make sense to me, but I'll dig deeper into that)

mighty storm
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thought you were gonna say taylor swift there

ancient bolt
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I don't see any field, method, or class name issues

potent fossil
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nice

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currently dealing with dog scared of fireworks

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on july 4th this is a full time job i s2g

ancient bolt
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I have a scared dog on my lap

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very stinky and I hate it

mighty storm
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idk where my cat is

ancient bolt
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my cat's don't give a fuck about the fireworks

potent fossil
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my cat is entirely fine and doesnt give a shit at all

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but dog however

mighty storm
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why's it different, cats just dont care?

potent fossil
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idk mine doesnt lmao

mighty storm
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should probably feed her one sec

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found her she was under me

ancient bolt
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hmm, I found one mapping issue

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but damn this is the best result I've ever gotten

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But I'll finish up for the day

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@vernal moth if you want to see where I'm at and help figure out where this issue is coming from I'll push this up for you

potent fossil
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congrats

ancient bolt
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some constructor params aren't renaming properly, while others are. Will need to investigate that more. I remembered I'm not applying spigot's AT to the remap so that should hopefully fix a lot of these AT issues

potent fossil
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what is AT

ancient bolt
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access transformer

potent fossil
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oo

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what does it do, change access modifiers?

ancient bolt
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yes

potent fossil
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ah ok

ancient bolt
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okay nevermind - I am already applying spigot's AT in the pre-decompile remap process just like spigot does

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I have no idea how spigot is accessing these private members from other classes..

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oh, these are classes which spigot doesn't decompile

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makes sense

ancient bolt
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@vernal moth gave you access to another repo for paperweight testing

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should let you just clone it and run a couple commands to test it out

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2 biggest issues I'm seeing is: constructor params don't always map (paperweight issue, I remap constructor names with a custom renamer for Mercury) and I saw 1 case where a variable wasn't mapped properly in a lambda, in net.minecraft.world.server.ChunkManager, line 285. Otherwise I looked through a lot of classes and didn't see any other errors. I also didn't try to compile it because I didn't want to know how many errros there really was lol. That's all I'll do for today

neat smelt
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whats paperweight?

ancient bolt
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a super secret project that I'm working on for paper

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secret because I don't want to make any kind of promises or expectations if it never happens

neat smelt
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alright

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if i had to guess, a supercharged paper version zoidberg

steel pulsar
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it's minecraft written in rust

worn ember
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Sounds like it has some weight to it

vestal jasper
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both my cats are running around growling at the doors and windows

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mfw

potent fossil
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i gave my dog benadryl and she is fast asleep

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if i try to wake her, she is so drowsy

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๐Ÿ˜‚

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poor girl

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she can stay here

vestal jasper
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this is one of my cats first 4th

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he seems to be doing better than my other cat's 4ths

potent fossil
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๐Ÿ‘€

limber knotBOT
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That way I can find messages :p

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(I can see your message about a Lorenz bug, but not the but itself?)

austere ivy
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This is not a good way to provide documentation.

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Please do not do this :D

vestal jasper
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Yeah the fact that they provided the method signature is pretty blegh

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optimally you'd have to PM the person to even get method sigs

grand pewter
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it isn't even a proper method signature lol

quasi valley
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inb4 returns Object

frozen jacinth
viral hornet
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PaperSpigot
Must be terrible

limber knotBOT
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@viral hornet [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

frozen jacinth
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Looking up "Paper" on google doesn't return the same results

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I just say PaperSpigot to be specific

limber knotBOT
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@frozen jacinth [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

viral hornet
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Never used that though, nor would I ever pay for a fork.

vernal moth
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Most sold paper forks are either absolutely terrible or just steal patches from other open source forks

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Just don't bother

viral hornet
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Thought of using a server jar that's closed source and from some random makes me anxious

frozen jacinth
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kk cool

cedar spade
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The organisation is called PaperMC, you'll probably find Paper if you search for that

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Either way, PaperSpigot is wrong

viral hornet
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What aren't you getting out of Paper that makes you curious to try forks?

frozen jacinth
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nothing

quasi valley
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:pin\apl:

viral hornet
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Oh

frozen jacinth
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just saw some good reviews on it and i was curious

steel pulsar
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reviews on what

viral hornet
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Try it and seeee

cedar spade
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Discord used to just hide \s but it doesn't any more

viral hornet
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then decompile it to see what is actually happening

cedar spade
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Good reviews doesn't necessarily mean anything

grand pewter
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whats paperspigot

limber knotBOT
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@grand pewter [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

viral hornet
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Popspigot

quasi valley
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PepeSpigot?

steel pulsar
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paperspigot is what paper used to be called

limber knotBOT
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@high knot [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

steel pulsar
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i assume

grand pewter
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hello

steel pulsar
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โ€‹

twin lagoon
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@frozen jacinth

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that fork is just tuinity but paid

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don't bother with them

cedar spade
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Unless the review breaks down all the unique features of that fork in detail and how they're beneficial, there is no reason to trust a vague positive review of it

neat smelt
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many people come from normal spigot and are impressed what that paid fork of paper can do in terms of performance

steel pulsar
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pโ€‹aperspigot

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yea there you go i avoided it

neat smelt
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oops

cedar spade
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I say that for paid Paper/Spigot forks in particular because they rarely add anything of value and come with tradeoffs

frozen jacinth
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is donkey dupe fixed in 1.16

neat smelt
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just put paper on mc-market and donate every dollar to the paper project zoidberg

steel pulsar
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there's no reason to fork paper unless you're making your own personalized whatever

viral hornet
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lmao Oberfail

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I actually want to try that ๐Ÿ˜‚

quasi valley
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people would prolly buy that; just tell them everything is multithreaded and they'll believe it

viral hornet
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Put Paper on mc-market, get heaps of people to leave it a good review, then just donate the earnings to Paper

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LOL Kenny

cedar spade
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PoopySpaghetti

twin lagoon
#

viaversion mcmarket $15

neat smelt
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Paperoni is a custom fork of Paper, which does add nothing but a pricetag to paper and includes all features of paper.
Multithreaded world loading.
Multithreaded Anti-Xray
and many other multithreaded stuff

quasi valley
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just make it crash on Spigotโ„ข๏ธ

twin lagoon
#

honestly

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fork paper

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rebrand it

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add some fake config options like async-entity-tracking: true

neat smelt
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xD

twin lagoon
#

get the placebo effect

olive marlin
#

is donkey dupe fixed in 1.16
@frozen jacinth Yes. Since first build.

ancient bolt
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jamie yeah but then I'd have to open IRC again lol

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I did realize it's not a bug, what I was trying to do was unsupported. I'll elaborate more in #cadix

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I did work out a way to do it in my code so not really a big deal if you add the feature explicitly or not

vernal moth
#

I'll check out your stuff in like 3 hours or so, gonna go over to my parents today

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon share your riches with me

twin lagoon
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hi camm

slender jay
#

looks like kangarko removed his ads

neat smelt
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):

steel pulsar
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here's a coding challenge: a plugin that changes the spawnpoint depending on how many times you've spawned there

minor badge
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@twin lagoon stupid

twin lagoon
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hi proxi

minor badge
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stupid dumb dumb

viral hornet
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hi michael

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๐Ÿ‘ one ๐Ÿ‘ more ๐Ÿ‘ commit ๐Ÿ‘

quick pasture
vestal jasper
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@twin lagoon mysql confirmed working btw :^)

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just need to implement the messaging systems and we gud

twin lagoon
noble lodge
#

is there anyway to enable bedrock breaking? like in vanilla?

olive marlin
#

SIB

viral hornet
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@noble lodge don't be like this

cosmic raft
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enjoy

noble lodge
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there is nothing wrong with building on the netherroof tbh, but thanks for the useless comment anyway!

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๐Ÿ™‚

spice finch
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why gradle's offline mode requires me to give path to android sdk

quasi valley
#

how about not being passive aggressive over a simple comment

noble lodge
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it's not being passive aggresive, just told my opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that,Sir!

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@olive marlin Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

cosmic raft
#

but thanks for the useless comment anyway!

noble lodge
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^ opinion ๐Ÿ™‚ wich i thanked him for ๐Ÿ™‚

carmine hinge
#

@spice finch think that happens when you have a weird configuration error

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don't remember how i fixed it

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but adding android sdk didn't actually fix it iirc

void void
#

is it just me or do the normal face emojis in discord look really bad

carmine hinge
#

i mean they're twitter emojis i think

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you love em or you hate em

spice finch
#

AFAIK I have Android SDK installed anyways but I think it's bug :P

vestal jasper
#

I'd suggest providing ways to access the nether roof that don't involve exploits, then

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at the end of the day an exploit / bug is still an exploit / bug no matter what it's used for

latent valve
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U can access the roof with minecart/boat/epearl

vestal jasper
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Also nice job strawmanning what Camm said, SIB.
is there anyway to enable bedrock breaking? like in vanilla?
This does not mention nor does it imply that the purpose is for accessing the nether roof.

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Camm never said that he doesn't condone accessing the nether roof peepojuice

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mfw I have 90 minutes to be awake and idk what I wanna do

neat smelt
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sleep

vestal jasper
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haha funny

olive marlin
#

For us the vanilla bug is a nice "feature". Not trivial to use (like getting a pickaxe that can break bedrock or something). When it'll be fixed upstream, we'll probably be working on a plugin to create a similar-ish mechanic - just no time for now so slapping a big "feature" sticker on that bug lol

vestal jasper
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Also alternate ways could include a plugin that removes the bedrock at the top of the nether.
Or a custom made stairway or something in your nether spawn region.
Or even /top LULW

olive marlin
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Removing bedrock at top of nether will result it tons of ghasts spawning there.

grand pewter
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that sounds like a feature, not a bug

vestal jasper
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You are running a Paper server, after all. You have an entire API at your disposal.
Best to make use of it instead of relying on exploits imo.

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You can ensure those intentional features last, you can't ensure exploits last.

olive marlin
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I know. And I'd prefer to create custom mechanic tbh.

latent valve
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but it a VanIlLa FeaTurE!!!

olive marlin
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I'm not expecting it to last at all.

latent valve
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all those "exploit" are now vanilal featurn when mojang doesnt fix it lol

olive marlin
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I hope mojang will steal these patches and fix it.

vestal jasper
#

tbf though half of redstone are long standing bugs lol

latent valve
#

Ye

plush vigil
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is EssentiaksX updated yet?

olive marlin
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Just - 2 more months of working on my thesis and then I'm free.

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EssentialsX been out very quickly iirc.

plush vigil
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Nice thx

olive marlin
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Back to working on my thesis, I guess. :/

void void
#

does any one know what plugin in AreaShop, BossShopPro, Citizens, ClearLag, CommandNPC*, Essentials, EssentialsChat, EssentialsSpawn, HolographicDisplays, LuckPerms, mcMMO, MobArena, MorphRedeem, Multiverse-Core, PlaceholderAPI, Quests, Rankup, TitleManager, Vault, WorldEdit, WorldGuard prepends [] to the chat msg such as []admin | EppyPrime: chat format test when it is supposed to look like admin | EppyPrime: chat format test

carmine hinge
#

@olive marlin grad school?

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id say multiverse; check its config

olive marlin
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@carmine hinge USA has different schools from us.

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But I think it'd be at undergrad level. Though grad and undergrad is in the same school here.

carmine hinge
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bruh

olive marlin
#

I went through:
Primary (6 years, split to first 3 years all lessons apart from english, 2nd foreign lang and "religion" are with the same teacher, last 3 are with dedicated teacher per subject)
Secondary (3 years)
High School (3 years)
University (I'm doing it in 4 years for first degree)

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Though it changed since, cause they went back to system that was years ago and got rid of secondary school xD

twin lagoon
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hi @viral hornet

viral hornet
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

twin lagoon
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the paper discord is better

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and you gave the perfect excuse to leave

viral hornet
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I mean

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still

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One less server for us to say hi to eachother in though?

twin lagoon
#

we're in so many mutual servers

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you're even in my minecraft server's server

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and you're not even in my newest mc server server

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so pls stop crying

viral hornet
#

well

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INVITE ME

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What is your minecraft server's server?

twin lagoon
#

look at your dms bb girl

twin lagoon
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see now the numbers are even again @viral hornet

viral hornet
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@twin lagoon but I can't say hi to you in there?

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yet?

twin lagoon
#

you can

viral hornet
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Okay, everything is right again

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Feel free to never rejoin admincraft now

twin lagoon
#

balanced as all things should be

minor badge
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@twin lagoon >:(

twin lagoon
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hi proxi

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dum

twin lagoon
latent valve
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Fuck you Michael

twin lagoon
vestal jasper
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fuck it time to bandwagon

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@viral hornet we only share 15 servers now and not 16

viral hornet
#

oh no

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uhhHHHhhHh

twin lagoon
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git fucked

viral hornet
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Join the OW discord

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get cool emoji's

twin lagoon
#

what about the auscraft discord

viral hornet
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now that's an idea

twin lagoon
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bruh moment

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not even a vanity link

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what a loser

viral hornet
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apart from there's no cool emoji's yet

vestal jasper
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let's just all hide out in my server :^)

viral hornet
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need 15 more boosts ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

twin lagoon
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vic your server sucks

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that mike bot gives me aids

carmine hinge
#

anyone know how to set up a dedi server to use a different file system?

viral hornet
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mike bot is bad

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but that's not Vic's fault

void void
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@minor badge thx, will check.

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cool af

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it works!

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๐Ÿ˜„ thx

unreal quarry
#

anyone know how to set up a dedi server to use a different file system?
@carmine hinge just select the filesystem you want during the OS install.. but why would you want anything other than ext4?

carmine hinge
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compression @unreal quarry

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also i just mistakenly pressed 'reset bmc' :S

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what does that do

unreal quarry
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No idea, but Google makes it sound like you just "factory reset" something

carmine hinge
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oops

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good thing theres nothing on it yet

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billy, what if the os is preinstalled?

unreal quarry
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No clue. I had to install my own. I don't like preinstalled stuff

carmine hinge
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915G 2.3G 867G

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'size use available'

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bruh

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how can it be 915g and have 2.3g used and only have 867g left

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oh apparently ext4 reserves 5% for root

unreal quarry
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Huh, I didn't know that. That's useful to know

spice finch
unreal quarry
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Should have used maven

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runs away

spice finch
unreal quarry
#

BuT gRaDlE hAs A dAeMoN

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^_^

spice finch
#

its overall better

unreal quarry
#

Clearly

real ocean
#

Maybe it's a different version or distribution type from you downloaded before

vernal moth
#

It's also an old version

worn ember
#

good day sirs and sirsn't

mental meadow
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sirsn't lol I like that

worn ember
#

gotta be carefull what you say nowadays

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congrats on mod btw

olive garden
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who the hell is aurora?

latent valve
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She's a ppaer mod

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God i cant type

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Paper

minor badge
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a cool gal

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also mod in I-S

mental meadow
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who the hell is aurora?
honestly idk

minor badge
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what is one supposed to answer when asked "who are you?" anyways

quasi valley
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probably "your most horrible nightmare?"

olive garden
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name, place of birth, SSN

mental meadow
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:D

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Ah yes, social security number, good concept

steel pulsar
#

we should simply migrate over to twitter handles

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for government documents

quasi valley
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lmao

mental meadow
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would probably be a better UID then the social security number

steel pulsar
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or minecraft UUID

quasi valley
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minecraft UUID = UUID

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๐Ÿ‘€

spice finch
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what's the difference between minecraft uuid and uuid standard? Kappa

minor badge
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luckily norway's variant of SSNs are often attached to fingerprints, so let's just provide the fingerprint data in base64

mental meadow
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I can give you the checksum of my ID if that helps

minor badge
latent valve
heady spear
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Our equivalent of SSN is public information over here, anyone can get that shit if they want it ๐Ÿ˜›

minor badge
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almost same here; you're not supposed to share the persona number you're given, but no harm really comes from it as you can get the image and whatnot associated to it (which means impersonation isnt the easiest)

heady spear
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We have this national electronic ID system where you need to enter a pass code to do anything anyway

minor badge
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yee same here

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well, pass code + password + persona number

heady spear
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unless ur a foreigner in which case ur basically locked out of society

minor badge
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lock me out of your society city ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

latent valve
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City get name == ssn xD

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5second max smugshrug

heady spear
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ratsit ftw

latent valve
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mhm

heady spear
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can also get everyone's tax records ๐Ÿ˜›

minor badge
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i did that to find out how old a teacher of mine was ๐Ÿ˜ณ

heady spear
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my math teacher used to date my sister and she told me really weird details about him

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couldn't look at him the same way after that

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he was also a P.E. teacher tho, super hot

latent valve
heady spear
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too bad he had a small pp

latent valve
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and how did City know abt that

heady spear
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might have seen it ๐Ÿ‘€

mental meadow
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ofc it was only an accident, was it city?

warm anchor
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City must have seem some big ones

carmine hinge
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what in the world did i walk into

latent valve
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Earth

heady spear
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she opened a snap and there it was

mental meadow
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City btw I found something interesting from you

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.fawe

latent valve
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she doubt i think he send a snap to you city

latent valve
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xD

carmine hinge
mental meadow
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traitor :C

heady spear
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that picture is literally fake tho

twin lagoon
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nah he's just stating facts

heady spear
#

Dark made it in photoshop or something

carmine hinge
latent valve
carmine hinge
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when will fawe on later versions be stable tho fr

heady spear
#

blackberries are weird yall

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raspberries r so much better

latent valve
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u mean phone or berry

carmine hinge
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i'm hesistent to update from 1.12 bc its so glitchy on my test server

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and i kind of need fawe for my ridiculously huge creative server plots

twin lagoon
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fawe & stable doesn't exist

carmine hinge
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it's pretty stable on 1.12

mental meadow
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On 1.15 it'S getting better, I am working on fixing copying entities

carmine hinge
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haven't had issues in years

mental meadow
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And it works pretty well so far, only //undo is not working yet

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D:

heady spear
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I mean it's getting better by the day shrug_animated

carmine hinge
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@mental meadow one of the biggest issues for me is that it doesnt seem to convert schematics properly

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iirc, i fixed a bug in a PR to worldedit many months ago with that but it doesnt seem to be fixed in fawe

mental meadow
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Like from .schematic to .schem? You can just paste a .schematic tho

carmine hinge
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stone slabs are imported as stone slabs instead of smooth stone slabs basically

latent valve
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how does it fix light? iirc tested fawe back in the day and light doesnt get update

carmine hinge
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i mean from 1.12 to 1.15

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there are some import issues like that iirc

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also signs dont import

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also yeah fixlighting is broken ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

mental meadow
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I don't think there are issues for that on GitHub tho, would be great if you could create some then xD

carmine hinge
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lol fair enough

latent valve
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have fawe run /paper fixlight xD

heady spear
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fixlighting was fixed recently tho, wasn't it?

carmine hinge
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i didn't do that bc im overwhelmed with stuff to do already

mental meadow
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It doesnt automatically update lighting atm, but //fixlighting is working again

carmine hinge
#

issues take time ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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too many issues with too many plugins to report them all xD

heady spear
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dords swore a lot while working on it so I think he made a lot of progress

carmine hinge
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i'll try to make time to compile a list of my fawe issues and submit them one by one sometime

mental meadow
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You don't even want to know how we converted our schematics from 1.12 to 1.13 lol

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That would be awesome โค๏ธ

heady spear
#

I've noticed that British people's productivity is directly proportional to their level of swearing

carmine hinge
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LOL

heady spear
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FAWE took a fat L when 1.13 came around, but from what I've seen, a lot of progress has been made over the last couple of months :]

carmine hinge
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@mental meadow the built in async lighting api is pretty easy to use

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i use it for my starships

heady spear
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now we have FAWE boosted plot clearing again ^-^

carmine hinge
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i just provide it a list of blocks & it works

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well, i think i submit them block by block

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didnt bother figuring out the other methods the api has because i only have a few dozen thousand blocks at most anyway

heady spear
mental meadow
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We are always open for PR ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine hinge
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lol

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normally i'd be making PRs all over the place rn

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but now that im working i have veeery limited time ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i'll see if i can do that once i settle down the updates on my server

steel pulsar
#

hows placeholderAPI on 1.16

twin lagoon
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no reason why papi wouldn't work on 1.16

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lol

steel pulsar
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just a buncha comments on the spigotmc page and also it doesn't include 1.16 in the versions last time i checked

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i guess its just an API how could that break

minor badge
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it works fine

carmine hinge
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    private fun relight(queue: ChunkQueue) {
        val lightEngine = queue.chunk.world.chunkProvider.lightEngine
        for (key in queue.newBlocks.keys.iterator()) {
            val pos = NMSBlockPos(blockKeyX(key), blockKeyY(key), blockKeyZ(key))
            lightEngine.a(pos)
        }
    }
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this is all i do for relighting

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seems to work fine

steel pulsar
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man why is spigotmc's search function so bad

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imagine searching for a resource and then getting other things that just mention that resource even though you clicked the Resource only button

heady spear
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either way, relighting is working in fawe now

carmine hinge
#

does it work with regular edits?

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or just //fixlighting?

mental meadow
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just //fixlighting

carmine hinge
#

i think my way might be a bit inefficient for large edits but what if i just made a PR that has optional experimental relighting that just does that for now?

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maybe like a configurable max size

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at least it'd work to some extent

mental meadow
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I'd ask Dords before that, before you are doing work that isn_'t needed. Are you on the I-S discord?

carmine hinge
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think so

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i'll ask there

orchid edge
#

how significantly does the day (Mon-Sun) effect server activity? I am wondering if it's worth waiting til Friday rather than launching a server on a Monday

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I imagine it doesn't really matter enough to wait 4 days

twin lagoon
#

best to launch on friday

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but with corona & summer, might not be necessary

worn ember
#

players are more spread out on summer breaks

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so it doesnt really matter

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but usually saturdays and sundays yield the highest player counts

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sunday being the biggest one, for some reason

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idk if its still like that

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but i assume something like that wont change much

minor badge
#

been getting 60 or so every day for a bit now, don't really think it's much limited to weekdays tbh

worn ember
#

is it factions pvp

void void
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that would explain it

heady spear
#

aren't people busy going to church on Sundays?

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sundays r for God, not for minecraft

mental meadow
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minecraft is god

olive marlin
#

According to bstats, there looks like the "Corona" players are nto as active as before. But there isn't any very noticeable difference between the days. Though there still is some favor towards weekends.

worn ember
#

[15:39:23 INFO]: Villager EntityVillager['Villager'/3310, uuid='488a55b0-ce70-4ee3-840c-772f48bb5d93', l='ServerLevel[world]', x=-24765862.12, y=70.00, z=-14656144.70, cx=-1547867, cz=-916010, tl=191, v=true, d=false] died, message: 'Villager suffocated in a wall' lmao randomly popped up in my console

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F

mossy vessel
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Don't act like you're going to church City

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The only reason you'd go to church is for the free wine

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spice finch
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nope

olive marlin
#

Must be a Paper bug!

heady spear
#

guys, proxi and I are getting married

unkempt drift
#

K, GitHubs app sucks.

minor badge
#

city i thought u never would ask ๐Ÿฅบ

mossy vessel
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eww

steel pulsar
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why would you use the github app

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cant believe they even made it in the first place

unkempt drift
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Well I wanted to try it out

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I only saw it like a week ago

golden gust
#

I have yet to find a GUI for git which makes me actually wanna just not use the CLI

unkempt drift
#

And now Iโ€™ve come to the conclusion that itโ€™s garbage

steel pulsar
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CLI feels more valid for me for some reason

golden gust
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CLI just doesn't get in the way

unkempt drift
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Iโ€™m talking about the mobile app here

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Not like a desktop app for github

golden gust
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and working on paper often, we kinda erm... aboose... git

unkempt drift
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So itโ€™s not a replacement for the CLI

golden gust
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And, yea, their mobile app was basically limited trash last I saw

minor badge
#

i just aliased the shit out of git commands

steel pulsar
#

does git have request limits?

golden gust
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you probs mean github, not git

steel pulsar
#

github

golden gust
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and yes, for some stuff they do

mossy vessel
#

I used to use gmaster at some point back the days

steel pulsar
#

still awfully nice of them to allow commits and updates in general as often as they do

unkempt drift
#

Iโ€™ve used gitkraken for things before

worn ember
#

i use ForkHub on my phone

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but idk any desktop app that doesnt suck

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NotMyFault, i hope they renamed that to gmain kek

mossy vessel
#

hm ?

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Was that a low iq pun I missed ?

worn ember
#

you must be fun at parties

mossy vessel
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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hardly make git jokes at parties

worn ember
#

sounds like you got the wrong friends then lol

quasi valley
#

only good friends make git jokes at parties

worn ember
#

clearly

mossy vessel
#

seems so lmao

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Man, I need a good drink

worn ember
#

what time is it for you?

minor badge
#

what does time have to do with needing a drink smh smh

quasi valley
#

proxi probably chugs a bottle of cheap vodka every morning

worn ember
#

i mean, if you start drinking from 8am xD

mossy vessel
#

I wouldn't judge it

worn ember
#

everything after 11am is acceptable for me lol

void void
#

mini doesn't drink before 2pm

quasi valley
#

kein Bier vor 4*

worn ember
#

lmao

void void
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smh its kein Bier vor viersmthin

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can't remember german time anymore

cedar spade
#

uhr

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idk I don't remember german either

mossy vessel
#

Apparently I've broken the codex way too often then sweat

worn ember
#

well, if you start drinking at 4pm and dont stop until 11am theres nothing wrong right?

mossy vessel
#

They used to give out free beer at my uni soo

worn ember
#

meanwhile here they charge $3 for a cup of soup

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its cheaper to just drink beer xD

neat smelt
#

xD

worn ember
#

thank god for Atomic variables ๐Ÿ™

void void
#

haha

real basin
#

how can i disable xp clumping

quasi valley
#

spigot config, merge-radius.exp

real basin
#

ty

void void
#

have you guys joined official minecraft discord

neat smelt
#

no

steel pulsar
#

it's pointless

void void
#

i dont think people in there toxic

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cause i joined once

carmine hinge
#

phoenix nap support is curiously good

#

they're basically doing everything for me without me asking kek

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me: 'how do I do usb boot so i can mess with partitions to use zfs'

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them: '<blablabla> or we can reinstall for you with zfs'

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me: 'ok'

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it's sunday, too

#

how is this a thing xD

neat smelt
#

who?

void void
#

Kenny u have discord?

worn ember
#

Kenny Beats pepejamsad

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
#

pics or it didn't happen

#

video feed cuts off

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rocket falls back to earth

#

seems legit

worn ember
carmine hinge
#

@neat smelt my new host

neat smelt
#

for that price

#

they better should lmao

worn ember
#

who tf is rocket lab

carmine hinge
#

its only $125 a month

worn ember
#

never heard of them

carmine hinge
#

for like

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64gb ram

neat smelt
#

"only" xD

carmine hinge
#

1tb ssd nvme

#

xeon e-2288 thing

#

even cheaper than ovh

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by like $20

limber knotBOT
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Don't compare budget shit houses to places like PN

carmine hinge
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o.o

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hetzner is on like the other side of the world

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they don't count

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can't even read that

ashen cliff
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Hetzner.

carmine hinge
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is that german or something

neat smelt
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hetzner counts for me

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yes

limber knotBOT
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You defo won't get the service level from those budget hosts compared to somewhere like PN

carmine hinge
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pn service is amazing

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how is it so amazing cat?

neat smelt
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but you only pay half the price

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if you know what you're doing, its better

carmine hinge
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@neat smelt that looks like the same price lol

limber knotBOT
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It's almost like, you get what you pay for

carmine hinge
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oh but it does have more disk

limber knotBOT
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OVH invests most of their stuff into networking/automation

neat smelt
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well price is the same, performance is double

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twice the core count twice the ram

limber knotBOT
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PN actually has a noc team which can easily be accessed through tickets, etc

carmine hinge
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whats the cpu there

neat smelt
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R9 3900X

carmine hinge
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oh dangg

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ok fair enough

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but it's only on the other side of the world

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no options like that in the US

limber knotBOT
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The level of automation on OVHs network and the stuff they deal with automatically is fucking amazing

neat smelt
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yeah sadly

carmine hinge
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and the vast majority of my users are in the US

neat smelt
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nearly all us hoster are overpriced af

limber knotBOT
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But, at the same point, they're literally useless when shit goes sideways

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mixture of "what are companies willing to pay", as well as the peering headaches

carmine hinge
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i feel like this is the support i'd get if i paid ovh $1k a month or something lol

limber knotBOT
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OVH just really doesn't offer real support

twin lagoon
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$125 is literally nothing for a 2288g, 64gb ram & 1tb ssd

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OVH does have decent support apparently

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you just need to become an enterprise customer which anyone can become, but it's a 20% extra cost

worn ember
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meanwhile pays 4euro a month for a vps

quasi valley
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I do 3โ‚ฌ

worn ember
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;o

quasi valley
worn ember
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where

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i need a new host actually

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my old one was more down than up

quasi valley
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hetzner

worn ember
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mfw

quasi valley
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nothing but 2 discord bots and a site up there

worn ember
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yeah thats what i need it for really

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did you go vps or web?

quasi valley
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cloud vps

worn ember
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ohh

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yeah those are cheap af lol

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might buy one

limber knotBOT
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become an enterprise customer

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Well, yeah, but iirc, OVHs $$$$ for that is much worse than the general rates that DCs have

worn ember
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what server should i look for if i wanted to set up Jenkins?

limber knotBOT
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You just need a decent amount of ram depending on how many workers you're planning to have, etc; beyond that, disk space and competent CPU

worn ember
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hmm, idk anything about jenkins tbh so i have no clue what workers even are lol

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ill do some research

limber knotBOT
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basically, the number of builds running at once

worn ember
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i dont think i cant push out more builds than it can build tbh KEKW i'm not that fast

limber knotBOT
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Ah, they're referred to as build executors

worn ember
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can*

limber knotBOT
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It will queue stuff up anyways

worn ember
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i used Travis before but it was kinda meh for java

void void
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I,m can use paper in bedrock????

worn ember
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seemed to work great for C# apps tho

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no

void void
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o

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

worn ember
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java only

void void
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And plugins in bedrock?

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I can use?

worn ember
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not with paper at least

limber knotBOT
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you'd more wanna look at stuff like nukkitx

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No, because paper is a java edition mod

void void
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In bedrock plugins not???????

worn ember
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bruh

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read

void void
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Ok.................................

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Bye

latent valve
mossy vessel
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ok

worn ember
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oh god, they going over the waterfall model and agile again, i literally cant hear those terms anymore.
The amount of times i've had to sit through the same speech in college how waterfall bad, agile good bullshit is insane

ocean moon
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK

carmine hinge
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what's the class? @worn ember

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i actually haven't had a single class discuss those yet

worn ember
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Practice Enterprise 1

carmine hinge
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huh

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most of my classes are kind of theoretical stuff

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although next semester i have a super hands on course

worn ember
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well i'm not an CS student lol

carmine hinge
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oh i see

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what major?

ocean moon
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guessing stats

worn ember
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Applied IT, but idk if thats a term you use, its just translated lol

carmine hinge
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applied IT

worn ember
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its basically app and web development

carmine hinge
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isn't IT already the super bootlegged easy version of CS

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that's what it is at my uni lol