for vanilla gameplay
#general
sweet musk
waxen panther
she laughed at me for only knowing bokmal
elder sable
yes you are free to migrate 10k player networks to 1.16
potent fossil
i thought you only write bokmål/nynorsk and then they just speak like whatever
waxen panther
yeah i meant speak
finite wave
Eh
sweet musk
;-; so can i have my question answered lmao
waxen panther
i interchange the two words too much
finite wave
Somewhat
waxen panther
just try it or ask in the correct channel username
potent fossil
@sweet musk its like, somewhat there
take a backup as always
but its fine
that is a warrantyless statement
sweet musk
lol ok
waxen panther
spice finch
Proxi is woman? 👀
potent fossil
yes
sweet musk
its gonna be a new world anyways thnx @potent fossil
spice finch
Damn
waxen panther
omg a female online 
magic river
It probably won't explode but somewhere between vanilla, spigot, and paper it seems like upgrades from 1.15 worlds are kind of broken
potent fossil
elder sable
50 @ pings incoming
sweet musk
It probably won't explode but somewhere between vanilla, spigot, and paper it seems like upgrades from 1.15 worlds are kind of broken
@magic river its gonna be a new world but thnx for the warning :D
magic river
sweet musk
ok
potent fossil
There are no women on the internet.
spice finch
So how Simps are still alive
elder sable
Only transgenders 🏳️🌈
waxen panther
magic river
Why is simp suddenly a thing again?
waxen panther
it never stopped being a thing lol
magic river
It was a thing in like the 80s
potent fossil
every time ppl see my name, they start saying it
magic river
It's from hip hop culture
spice finch
Just figured out that simple contains simp
void void
ah 80s, see i wasn't alive back then
waxen panther
amaranth is 60
spice finch
void void
damn
waxen panther
spice finch
potent fossil
how long will it take before we start referring to decades w/ two digits but mean the 20xx and not the 19xx
waxen panther
stop before the wizard comes
spice finch
Wiz incoming
potent fossil
like, when we say the 10s or the 20s
elder sable
@potent fossil were you alive in the 20s?
potent fossil
yes
spice finch
Even before
smoky python
magic river
Probably going to be the 20s
void void
probably when people start living much longer
magic river
oughts and teens are too annoying to say
smoky python
Discord won't do shit against discord who are dedicated to leaking
elder sable
no love for the zeroes :'(
smoky python
Only to the specific file
potent fossil
@smoky python they literally said submit a DMCA.
waxen panther
Welcome to the internet
void void
sounds like they did their job
waxen panther
discord isn't a special case
potent fossil
well yeah, DMCA is filing a notice for...your IP
magic river
If they get enough for one server they might look in to it
Otherwise it's too small for them to care
smoky python
~300
magic river
Get all of those people to put in their own takedowns
magic river
That's how DMCA works
potent fossil
...yea
i wouldnt be very happy if somebody else DMCA'd my content
even if they were in the right
magic river
They get legal protection so long as they respond to takedowns and don't knowingly host/support it
smoky python
They have like ~100 paid content on their discord
magic river
So they don't want to hear about it outside of takedowns
elder sable
same fallacy as "You can't DMCA something that didn't occur"
smoky python
Discord should just delete it
spice finch
Only way you can help them actually
void void
should, but they won't unless they have a good reason to
spice finch
So plugins are worse somehow than other resources or what?
Didn't get you prob
Uh, stealing licensed code?
Isn't it illegal?
smoky python
Whut?
olive marlin
Can a mod take a look at #paper-help pls?
smoky python
You have to pay for those plugins
to get them
They are just giving them out like candy
spice finch
If I create plugin, don't I own it until I signed contract?
smoky python
Okay technically they should be GPL
spice finch
Lol but I don't get you, why has it to be based on gpl
spice finch
Uh okay, explains enough
smoky python
Because of that guy thats feels like his work has been done for nothing, right?
elder sable
API don't use bukkit code. Or did you refer to the Google v Oracle case?
↑ plugins against api
spice finch
We weren't even talking about servers
waxen panther
just the api
elder sable
ages old confusion ^_^
spice finch
This guy trolls or what
waxen panther
until G v O is finished you should consider redistributing without source against the rules
magic river
Even without the Oracle case
It has never been legal to make a closed source Bukkit plugin
gusty condor
@spare venture
spice finch
What gvo stands for?
magic river
Google v Oracle
pulsar wigeon
GvO is about reimplementing an API, not linking against it
gusty condor
ah nice, you commented on my issue :)
magic river
It was Oracle v Google but got flipped along the way
elder sable
right wiz
gusty condor
was quite annoying
smoky python
So, if I work at a server under an NDA and publicly open-source every plugin I am technically following the law but also not
spice finch
Yeah was in the same situation
olive marlin
You need to share code of plugins you distribute.
spice finch
You're under NDA so you can't open code
smoky python
^
elder sable
if you signed an agreement and they were paying for your work on these plugins, then these plugins are their property
spice finch
But also license says you have to
waxen panther
-> <-
olive marlin
If you only give them to X, only to him you need to give the code.
spice finch
Nah we are talking about open sourcing it barty
olive marlin
The source needs to be open only for everyone that uses your plugin.
gusty condor
also barty, how did you harass him lol
waxen panther
wut
elder sable
@median crane he can probably get away with it if the other party is stupid enough :P
spice finch
You're under NDA - can't tell anything about code, show it to anyone etc. Also GPL, which bukkit is under, forces you to open source it. So if you open source your plugin being under NDA.. what happens then? Not sure if understood what GPL means at all
waxen panther
thats not what we said at all
elder sable
You cant discuss NDA without seeings the contract terms first ✔
waxen panther
you have to give the source to the people you're distributing it to, not everyone
olive marlin
If you give someone your jar, you need to give them your code.
spice finch
It's 2AM sorry guys haha
elder sable
@waxen panther this discussion makes it clear: ROOM for social engineering 😂
magic river
And those people can then freely give your code to everyone
waxen panther
magic river
So realistically once you give your jar to someone you may as well just put the code on github
waxen panther
well, if you're doing contract work for someone they're not going to want to give the jar / code to anyone else anyway lol
there's a reason they paid you for it
olive marlin
Hey!
I haven't! (yet)
rapid bramble
Hiya can anyone help me with setting up BungeeCord 1.15.2 as a proxy which instantly connects to Spigot Server?
smoky python
Opensource but you gotta compile it your self?
magic river
btw I don't think copyright assignment is explicit just because someone gives you money, unless you signed a thing saying you'd give them all rights to it in exchange for money you still own whatever you write
spice finch
No, paid plugins with opensource code don't do that (atleast I think that they don't). Am I right?
waxen panther
not using paper or waterfall and asking for help in the paper server
spice finch
Opensource but you gotta compile it your self?
I've seen one plugin like that. People were still buying it surprisingly
gilded steppe
can anyone recommend me a plugin for 1.16 that allows player to link their item in chat?
limber knotBOT
copyright can't be resold anyways
elder sable
@magic river theres all sorts of weird stuff around that & "moral rights" that depends on jurisdiction
spice finch
I mean there's nothing bad in it
limber knotBOT
you can only sell usage rights and stuff
true canyon
I'm a big fan of that model.
waxen panther
mcmmo is just for prebuilt jars
elder sable
its autopunishment for -iq
waxen panther
support is for everyone
nvm i was scrolled up
those conversations weren't linked at all
lol
spice finch
Too much people were talking at one moment and it messed up a bit
void void
yeah, smart people get stuff for free, the dumber ones/ people with less time have to pay
limber knotBOT
I mean, open source doesn't mean it's non-paid 
spice finch
I don't think buying resource is being dumb. I use discord nitro to support platform, not even for these emojis :p
true canyon
smart people get stuff for free
Not just about being smart but about supporting a project.
potent fossil
for example, i paid for psv5 even though i could compile it myself
why? bc city and friends worked hard
elder sable
are 5,15,30$ really the difference that will make you support a plugin for 1,2,3 years longer after you lose interest?
→ same kids but working for pennies. imo
waxen panther
Obviously money is a motivator lol
And any good premium plugin would make more than $30
elder sable
how much more is my question
unreal quarry
spigot premium plugins have a note right there when you purchase that its a 1 time fee for that 1 jar. no garantee of anything beyond that is given. i dont understand why its expected by so many
elder sable
sales pitch by the other side of the "many"
true canyon
I think what Billy is saying is premium plugins should start creating new resources per version!
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unreal quarry
mcmarket has the better business model option, imho, where you have subscriptions
waxen panther
clown market
unreal quarry
there are a few plugins i would pay a sub to, tbh
one i was subbed to, but they moved to spigot premiums for some reason
nothing wrong with mcmarket other than the stigma surrounding it
void void
Hello
I am looking for a plugin to manage many worlds
with paper 1.16.1
can anyone advise me
unreal quarry
hyperverse @void void
void void
ty
serene bolt
do you have an AAAA record for your server domain?
ancient hatch
iirc that's a bug in mc
serene bolt
no idea how they're getting an ipv6 from you then 🤔
elder sable
ye then they would not try
serene bolt
well if it isn't on your end, they must have something that's trying to entice java into hard preferring ipv6 for some reason
worn ember
@spare venture tell them to disable ipv6 in their network adapter. See if that does anything
elder sable
lmao
how about ask them to ping/trace you first
serene bolt
tbh that's an even worse solution because now they lack all of ipv6 so, the argument is better
elder sable
@mellow kestrel dont bother. you arent going to have global PR anyway
waxen panther
elder sable
thats not a systematic approach ✘
worn ember
@serene bolt sure but then you know it's on their side. And then you can debug from there out. It's not meant to be a solution
worn ember
Idk if you can redirect ipv6 to ipv4
serene bolt
it's weird that it's only on resource pack downloads
elder sable
yes with tunneling or with cloudflare MITM
worn ember
Hackerman at work
serene bolt
yeah there's no IPv6, so i truly have no idea
worn ember
Maybe they don't have ipv4 but then they wouldn't be able to connect in the first place right?
serene bolt
no ipv6 and nothing hinting / steering towards ipv6, so i doubt the issue is on your end
elder sable
hold on
java.net.SocketException: Address family not supported by protocol family: connect
why the fuck is "protocol family = connect"?
serene bolt
I mean it's possible to have ipv6 only, but they wouldn't be able to connect to the MC server in the first place so lol
elder sable
is it normal?
Thanks this helped me :
Anti-virus blocking the connection. If you have an anti-virus running on that computer, try disabling it for a test.
lmao
worn ember
🤦
ancient hatch
imagine using an anti virus, laughs in linux
elder sable
also whoever made the error message at Java is an idiot
are you not looking at it
i was only concerned as to whether it's a Java exception error or Minecraft
serene bolt
the issue is that bartys resource domain isn't throwing any sort of hinting of ipv6 support (no AAAA record or anything else), so I have no idea why their client would try to establish ipv6 and not even fallback to ipv4 or just use it in the first place for the download
pretty sure their client / system is just busted and there's not much barty can do about it
austere ivy
worn ember
Doesn't even make sense cuz they use ipv4 to connect to the mc server anyway
serene bolt
yeah I suppose getting an IPv6 address for that domain is one solution 
heavy jetty
Is it possible to disable a certain advancement being announced while keeping the other ones announced?
worn ember
No
serene bolt
yes barty
worn ember
Yes
serene bolt
A record is ipv4, AAAA record is ipv6
assuming your web server is configured to listen on both ipv4 and ipv6, yes
(it probably is)
worn ember
Does mc support ipv6 for servers? I've never seen it. So I wonder
limber knotBOT
yes
serene bolt
will either be in your site directives or master config depending on your setup
yup
if your just using default configs, i bet it already is configured as such
smoky python
About to step on an ant
worn ember
Nick. Shush. Go sleep
smoky python
Waiting for 4:20 like every normal person
potent fossil
smoky python
Your are an ant
worn ember
I wanted to stay out longer but there's a curfew at 1am :(
worn ember
Yeah. Corona measures
smoky python
Not like I going to be outside at 1+am
worn ember
I was at a pub with my friends and basically got yeeted out at 1 am after the police told us to go home lol
austere ivy
can anyone here translate Python to JavaScript?
serene bolt
what's the listen on your root domain in the server block?
void void
um you can't really translate the languages
smoky python
and being forced to go home
serene bolt
lol
worn ember
They also arrested some maroks after starting a fight on the streets lol
void void
then fix it
smoky python
At 1am??
serene bolt
just pay some guy on fiver to do it for you 
always leads to quality work
smoky python
Shez
serene bolt
or even better, spigot S&R section
void void
my rule with networking is once it works, don't touch it
smoky python
I am happy I basically skipped this year
worn ember
I gotta retake 4 finals :(
smoky python
with an "A attest"
worn ember
Smhh. Better than last year tho. I had 8 then kek
serene bolt
that's ipv4/ipv6
smoky python
Wtf, how
worn ember
I'm a shitty student lmao
serene bolt
I thought OVH gives you a free block of ipv6
elder sable
@spare venture ip a |grep inet6 please
elder sable
all my ipv6 start with :dead:cafe:babe
grant you law enforcement immunity
the tech guys there recognise you are a cool kid and tell their ups "their couldnt track you down"
you become their bro
instantly
no barty
you right now declare yourself as full stack
and go on stackoverflow adventures
prob 2 deep 4 him
serene bolt
barty if you do ping6 google.com on your dedi does it actually work
glad shell
I bought a dedicated ovh server but do you know where the password is? it asks me for a password when I try to put root + password but I don't know where the password is located, someone help me thanks
smoky python
You need to guess it
serene bolt
yeah so you do need ipv6 then, oof
smoky python
Why do you want Ipv6?
glad shell
@spare venture help
I bought a dedicated ovh server but do you know where the password is? it asks me for a password when I try to put root + password but I don't know where the password is located, someone help me thanks
smoky python
Already??
smoky python
Damn, time flies
elder sable
I dont understand why you would need to set it up using their panel if you got assigned a regular ipv6 subnet and should only need to set it up locally @spare venture
glad shell
thanks puremin
serene bolt
yup
elder sable
You can sub-net but need to add an IPv6 address from that range to your network interface
exactly
elder sable
i hope you get a rootkit one day through clipboard abuse
serene bolt
guide looks decent enough, should work for you. just make sure you backup anything it wants you to edit so you don't bone yourself
worn ember
My Linux experience in a nutshell
serene bolt
playing with network stuff on a remote machine is kinda 
elder sable
maybe we should warn you barty that fucking up the networking stack can make your server unreachable @spare venture
serene bolt
it's all fun until your SSH drops and you can't reconnect
crystal compass
yo, would you say skyblock is a popular game type?
worn ember
Networking in general is aids. Especially if you don't know the infrastructure
smoky python
Setting up a firewall is 🥵
celest coyote
Reminder not to put your DNS on a VM and accidentally bring your wrong network down on a reboot
glad shell
I have not received a password just the invoicing of my payment, please help me thanks 🙂 I am new to dedicated servers
@serene bolt I have not received a password just the invoicing of my payment, please help me thanks 🙂 I am new to dedicated servers
smoky python
One enter and boom you lost your dedi/vps
elder sable
@celest coyote happened to a friend once, right?
worn ember
I remember having to set up ipv6 routes on a local network. And I already wanted to die
crystal compass
@glad shell your order is probably being processed
serene bolt
whenever your machine gets setup they will email you account info if you're using OVH. they always do
crystal compass
when dedi is ready you'll get more emails
celest coyote
Yeah a friend...
serene bolt
crystal compass
So im thinking about making a 2nd separate server.. Skyblock?
glad shell
I already activated it and everything is already processed and it is already active, I check my gmail and I only got to pay, they gave me an IP but I do not know where the root password is
smoky python
I have not received a password just the invoicing of my payment, please help me thanks 🙂 I am new to dedicated servers
You ordered a dedi but have no idea how to use one??
glad shell
@crystal compass
worn ember
Why's that an issue? Just connect using the ip then
carmine hinge
Hey, does anyone know how Mineplex gets away with selling currency for real money?
crystal compass
@glad shell they must email you the info.
carmine hinge
They sell currency that you can use to buy kits, you can get it both by playing minigames and by buying it
Really?
I thought the EULA totally forbids selling currency
crystal compass
Maybe open a support ticket.
carmine hinge
What??
crystal compass
what barty said ^
serene bolt
I think it may have changed, because I remember soft currency being bad to sell for hard currency
carmine hinge
I didn't know that
carmine hinge
ty!
crystal compass
People come on my server and say they are going to msg mojang that im breaking eula lol.. GO READ THE EULA FAM
elder sable
how to connect to your dedicated server USING IP ADDRESS (SSH GUIDE):
- Open console
telnet <ip addr>:22- ???
- Finish configuring your server
smoky python
🎪
carmine hinge
tysm guys
smoky python
I made a circus
serene bolt
your account info should be in the email with the server IP booly
crystal compass
lmAO
serene bolt
El Pokemo oficial
crystal compass
awkward
smoky python
@median crane *Steps on you*
elder sable
just show us the email we will help
crystal compass
lol
serene bolt
don't screencap your emails for god sake
worn ember
Haha
worn ember
Buy instant kill
glad shell
soy español
pulsar wigeon
i mean, unless there's an in game confirmation
worn ember
Didn't buy craft use to have it?
glad shell
barty españolo?
worn ember
U
crystal compass
lol
pulsar wigeon
.-.
worn ember
elder sable
they have enough investor money until the next round, dont worry
carmine hinge
I'm having trouble finding where the EULA talks about selling stuff now
cunning raft
PAYING FOR CUSTOM LINK
carmine hinge
where is it? xD
worn ember
Imagine
static badge
what's a discord banner again
worn ember
It's a banner in discord
static badge
oh that thing
pulsar wigeon
wow advertising smh
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also
worn ember
Ban plz
serene bolt
self promotion.... really....
pulsar wigeon
no you didn't
static badge
mfw that censoring barty 
serene bolt
pulsar wigeon
u fukin 
worn ember
Lmaoo
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pulsar wigeon
also like i dont get the recent influx of ppl who think only the ip is advertising
like the server name somehow isn't
carmine hinge
"sell entitlements that affect gameplay provided that they do not adversely or negatively another player’s experience and provided they do not give a competitive gameplay advantage. A competitive gameplay advantage is something that, given identical skill levels, time investment, and circumstances, can cause one player or group to perform better than another."
worn ember
waxen panther
hhhmmmmmm
elder sable
its the same people who dont realize that censoring out names but leaving text doesnt do anything for privacy
you can still search for body text and find the original post online @pulsar wigeon
pulsar wigeon
don't ping me
carmine hinge
mainly survival
waxen panther
lol
carmine hinge
but mineplex is also competitive
they sell money you can use to buy kits in minigames
elder sable
how would you keep track of a discussion among 7 people?
cunning raft
don't argue this va
waxen panther
wiz has a huge brain
pulsar wigeon
having more than 2 brain cells
it's really realllly obvious who is talking to whom
elder sable
a rare instance these days.
worn ember
Is it tho
elder sable
just 10 screens earlier it wasnt
waxen panther
maybe in the spigot server
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worn ember
Wiz smells like poopoo. Like that
elder sable
poor UX on discords part tbh
waxen panther
wish i could disable pings in some servers 
elder sable
There should have been a "never" emphasis to that rule
smoky python
You can?
waxen panther
no you can't
worn ember
Wiz loves me 
smoky python
Wdyn you can't
waxen panther
you can disable @ everyones in specific servers but not pings lmfao
elder sable
I interpreted it differently
pulsar wigeon
i don't care how you interpreted it
i just told you not to ping me. end of discussion
no need to make an argument about it
static badge
ah yes
pulsar wigeon
leaf stfu
vagrant terrace
Do you guys think paper is stable enough to use in a live server? Right now I am using spigot
static badge
it isn't paper until people are fighting over pings
pulsar wigeon
you should know better than this leaf
worn ember
Only pong him if the server is on fire
smoky python
I prefer dinging
worn ember
And then if ur lucky he'll excuse you. But deep down he will still hate you
pulsar wigeon
i'm always offline you
worn ember
Why does that matter?
smoky python
Incase you go offline
worn ember
I get notifications for every message in my discord kek
elder sable
its for discord's guilds perf reasons
worn ember
Cuz it's my tech support server. And there's only like 20 people
worn ember
I'm not that famous ;-;
Lol. I can still manage it myself for now. But it's getting harder
waxen panther
pay me $5 a year and i'll support all of your customers
i am a professional discord support agent
certified level 3
worn ember
I don't trust you
waxen panther
toxic
worn ember
Also you don't like mobas so you can fuck right off
worn ember
No u
smoky python
Exactly
waxen panther
❓
smoky python
Feel the power of No u
waxen panther
smoky python
💔
worn ember
smoky python
Bruh is that THE simon?
smoky python
Simon from Hypixel..
worn ember
Silly hater
waxen panther
thanks x
worn ember
Smoll pp
smoky python
If my foot sleeps I just go downstairs and and put it under hot water
worn ember
Idk. It's been doing it all night. Apparently it can happen if you drink too much
Bit honestly I didn't even drink that much
Only like 5 vodka redbull a and some beers
worn ember
Yeah that's like 5 cans of redbull
Lmao
I never drink energy drinks tho
So I'll be fine
smoky python
Next time just drink Monster
fallen oracle
Wait what
smoky python
I recomment the white one
fallen oracle
Oh
worn ember
You cant stop me
smoky python
Dont drink at all
worn ember
:o
worn ember
I only go out once every blue moon
fallen oracle
That sounds so good
worn ember
They don't do vodka monster cx
fallen oracle
That'll probably be one of the first things I do when I move to my new house.
I didn't know we were talking about redbull and vodka.
worn ember
Meh. I usually don't have issues with it. I just can't sleep cuz I keep getting cramps in my feet out of all places
fallen oracle
Just mix in some melatonin and you'll be set.
pulsar wigeon
generally dont mix anything with anything
unless you know what you're doing
how about no
smoky python
Mixing Java with JavaScript
worn ember
Wym Nick. They're the same
smoky python
Ikr
worn ember
Anyway I'd like to wake up before 2pm. So goodnight
waxen panther
pulsar wigeon
scala and clojure
fallen oracle
That was an unintentional play on words.
pulsar wigeon
let's get more whack
worn ember
C and java
pulsar wigeon
we have a whole jvm to play with
static badge
how about kotlin and the trashcan
worn ember
pulsar wigeon
idk leaf do you want to be stuck with kotlin?
static badge
wtf
worn ember
I tried kotlin. It has some nice things but ehhh
sick portal
Did somebody say Windows Server? 👀
worn ember
I prefer verbose java
smoky python
Omg hey my self!
sick portal
🤦
fallen oracle
worn ember
I had a windows server class actually...
It's so stupid lol. I mean it's nice and user friendly but it's also so shit in some regards
woven cove
is it a paper bug that if i type my ip with port that it sends warnings to console
smoky python
Windows tried
woven cove
1.16.1 paper
worn ember
Tried indeed
elder sable
user-friendly → support pages get nuked ✔
smoky python
This scares me
sick portal
@woven cove If you're referring like into a browser, no, that's because something that's not Minecraft is trying to connect.
woven cove
Nick yea
if i update to 1.16.1 paper
it sends warnings to console when i type it in browser
and if i reload the page a million times i can crash my server
but on any other server that doesnt run 1.16.1 paper it doesnt do anything wrong
fallen oracle
Mfw
waxen panther
confused about what i just read
worn ember
Lol wtf
waxen panther
but ok
smoky python
5 min bois
worn ember
Ddosinf mc servers from browsers is a thing now
waxen panther
hello papa
woven cove
if i type my ip (w/ port) it will sned wanrings to console
smoky python
Give me OP or I will type the server ip in my webbrowser
pulsar wigeon
you have some plugin listening on port 80...
woven cove
if i spam it, it kills the server because of the spam
worn ember
No wiz
pulsar wigeon
oh, with port
worn ember
Yes wiz
smoky python
Good wiz
worn ember
Dude
smoky python
His mc server
worn ember
Read
waxen panther
:0
woven cove
it sends warnings to the console
pulsar wigeon
easy enough to test
worn ember
He's connecting to the server through the browser. Obviously that fails. Apparently paper doesnt like it
waxen panther
its 317am
smoky python
Its 417
elder sable
there were plenty reports of poorly done web crawlers generating exceptions on Bungee
worn ember
I didn't need to be reminded of that
waxen panther
nah another hour yet
fallen oracle
Soon™️
worn ember
No. In an hour
smoky python
Just put a sign in the server "dont google the server ip, thanks"
waxen panther
worn ember
Just deny all connections kappa
waxen panther
they'd have to be seriously fucking braindead to put your servers ip in a browser with the port
smoky python
69
pulsar wigeon
looks like the server just drops it
worn ember
Noice
worn ember
woven cove
woven cove
thats the warnings it gives
worn ember
Are you on latest build?
smoky python
Thats literally what wiz sent
pulsar wigeon
yea but my console doesn't spam shit
elder sable
damn iC. that gotta be browser retry/favicon/possibly other prefetch
worn ember
Wiz did you test that on latest paper?
smoky python
Maybe the server is blocking out going connections which resultes in an error?
pulsar wigeon
no, i'm a few builds back
smoky python
Its not a plugin
austere ivy
https://paste.lucko.me/6085PlFS1S feel free to use if you ever need to threaten anyone, I'm constantly updating it and it's gone from real simple to whatever it is now in a couple of days
no idea where else to put it so here you go
smoky python
They could take over themselves
worn ember
Ants are having world wars
You get the point
Also there's more than 7 billion people
I mean. You could genetically modify them
But it would be a slow process
That doesn't mean anything
glad shell
All the connection to start with a dedicated ovh server is with the name: root?
elder sable
if you dont secure your server: yes
worn ember
That's the default yeah
elder sable
*depends on shipped sshd config
glad shell
what is the name to connect to ovh: root or debian?
elder sable
you must have instructions somewhere
glad shell
please teach me I want to connect to the SSH I just bought ovh
elder sable
I have never had a server at OVH how would I know?
they must have info either in the email linked or in their knowledge databases
(fancy word for big FAQs)
shell vine
😂
serene bolt
and the worst part is that when you switch it to english, it switches back all the time to french
thorny totem
I understand why the panel is bad haha I got assigned a failover IP which I never requested it
so im stuck with it
checks in the IP section no where to be found
serene bolt
Voir tout
long goblet
Ah yes, voir tout
thorny totem
Dosen't give my dedi's IP from there, checks in the dedicated server panel and I don't see that failover IP I never requested it https://i.qcfb.ca/20200702225912.png
Yes I,ve blurred IPs not to advertise here https://i.qcfb.ca/20200702230037.png
and see, no failover Ip there (mindfuck)
Guess I'd need to send them a support ticket, but well im lazy and I don't care so xD
ikr
austere ivy
Does Spigot allow https backends?
Off the top of my head I can think of HeadDatabase requiring https/internet/whatever but I vaguely remember Spigot enforcing the plugin at least working if internet is completely disabled or something like that.
elder sable
your only problem are missing/expired root certs
or generally higher up certificate authorities
austere ivy
Haven't even touched root certs (I just let Github Pages handle it lol) so when I'd try to hook up a server to it that'd be.. interesting. I'll have to learn those then, thanks
No rules on spigot banning backends, then?
elder sable
dunno about rules if any they should show them upon upload, no?
serene bolt
head over to the spigot discord and explain your use case, paper discord can't help you with spigot guideline questions
waxen panther
austere ivy
forgot I'm dum, thanks.
serene bolt
choco is a walking dictionary of rules, i guarantee he will tell you yes or no instantly
waxen panther
nerd ?
pulsar wigeon
says stinky
waxen panther
says wizard 😐
pulsar wigeon
is that supposed to be a bad thing
glad shell
the one who teaches me how to configure a dedicated server I pay 10 dollars
I just bought at ovh but I don't know how to configure
pulsar wigeon
how about no soliciting
neat smelt
... why did you bought it without any idea how to use it than?
runic finch
update to 1.16 yay/nay for production?
neat smelt
yay
neat smelt
but backup first
runic finch
yep, about to do it now
backups take 40 mins to fully go through so time to waste some time ;p
tyty
neat smelt
ouch
cunning raft
tuinity 1.16 is ok
most of the issues are from paper/spigot
i don't think there are any known issues from tuinity atm
pulsar wigeon
doesn't really matter where the issues are from if they're there
glad shell
GG
pulsar wigeon
lmao
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true pepega
pulsar wigeon
ur
serene bolt
look leaf has a colored name you were right!
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wat
void void
How it feels to chew 5 gum
limber knotBOT
nice
serene bolt
"32 chunks" I swear that's been broken forever or tells a number that isn't actually chunks
hazy veldt
Is there something else to call it besides chunks?
static badge
but even region is a bad name
as you expect region to correspond to 32x32 regions of chunks
wait a minute
32x32 regions of chunks IS 512x512 blocks
fuck sake
mighty storm
oh yes, big brain
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it's number of active regions
mighty storm
ci said "nah"
warm hornet
hi everybody !
i need help to hide this unu
i try to put the command bukkit.command.plugins false
but it didnt work
unkempt drift
what exactly do you want to hide?
waxen panther
yes
unkempt drift
the bukkit.command.plugins permission has to do with the /plugins command.
warm hornet
really?
i want to hide all those commands
and only show the commands that the user can use
it shows all my plugin list
neat smelt
oh no someone could steal your pluigns
warm hornet
yeah :c
void void
gae time
void void
LuckPerms + ChatManager
warm hornet
if i put the luckperms chat e.e ?
it will work ?
i will try it :3
with chat manager
warm anchor
What’s wrong with tab complete...?
waxen panther
Do you hate your players?
unkempt drift
tab complete is GLORIOUS
unkempt ridge
They're trying to make it so commands the player does not have access to don't show in the command suggestions
Which for most commands from most plugins, should already work that way...
unkempt drift
well I think it depends on whether or not they associate a permission with the command in the plugin.yml of the plugin right?
that is how the server knows what commands to display to players. I'm sure some developers got lazy and didn't include that info in the plugin.yml
carmine hinge
What's up with chunk loading being laggy on 1.16.1?
particularly on the client side
neat smelt
i dont have that problem
heavy jetty
I'm having that problem but I think it's server-side, chunks around the player seem to load before the chunk that the player's in
Anyone know how to have a header at the top of the page for tebex? I don't know CSS but I'm pretty certain that you have to edit the theme in order to create an image header
tame pendant
Yeah, for my too, chunks around the player seem to load slower than the player's chunk typically
Although, I'm on Purpur.
https://timings.pl3x.net/?id=976e14aa46c54df1886cc4a1ded78ffa
https://imgur.com/a/Lst0WQR
Purpur told me this was due to 1.15 -> 1.16 chunk conversion but these chunks have been accessed since the update to 1.16, so they should've already been converted. Idk
tame pendant
The flag is --forceUpgrade
carmine hinge
ty
ill see if that fixes it..
mine def werent converted lol
most of the chunks are probs still 1.12
olive marlin
1.12->1.13 had a laggy conversion due to all the ID to NamespacedKey changes. But later on its fine.
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@potent fossil nynorsk
gloomy warren
not sure if it's NotNull. (from spigot's javadocs)
prisma orchid
Force-upgrade command is not needed
heady spear
is it okay if i pass a null player?
it's not very clear, so I'll assume I can do that
olive marlin
Force upgrade is only recommended when upgrading from 1.12 or you really need to nuke light cache or something.
serene gulch
Hey, since i updated my server (1.15.2) to the 367 paperversion I can't use the piston duper. I also set "allow-piston-duplication" to true. Maybe u can help me?
olive marlin
TNT/rail/carpet duper?
serene gulch
sorry my sand/concrete super^
olive marlin
Also #paper-help is a better place for it :)
Oh, those are fixed and not configurable.
serene gulch
okay
Also #paper-help is a better place for it :)
@olive marlin
okay
but... is there any other chance to dupe some sand etc. without any pistons on paper?
potent fossil
oh man i sure love depending on nonstandard behavior and bugs to make or break my server
olive marlin
I believe your options are:
/give sand
Get a plugin that gives you a way of getting sand some other way (crafting? Sand generator similar yo cobble? Whatever)
Fork paper and remove that patch.
potent fossil
wait, u mean paper patched out the dupe
how could they break the game this way
how dare they
serene gulch
idk ^
olive marlin
Simple I understand why Paper does that, but I also understand people who want to use it.
If it was Mojang fixing the bug - noone would complain. I believe the only bug they can't really get away with removing is QC. Although the pigmen player kill bug also saw some backslash.
I'd love for Mojang to officially get movable TE and fix the duping bugs Paper has fixed.
potent fossil
i cant disagree with you more
if its a bug, it should be patched
plain and simple
i dont care who patches it
but sure, whatever
olive marlin
For me personally all duping bugs should be patched.
We have no duping policy, and we monitor stuff and ban players that ocassionally break this rule.
But I also understand people wanting to use it. Since it's "in game", it's abusing algorithm that is used to move entities around, just like you use workings of path finding algorithms to make mob farms etc.
Just like people use the natural path finding to collect mobs in one place - should mobs, once in closed chamber, go to your sword?
Should they be trick able that a trapdoor let's them stand on it, even though it's open in reality and they'll fall?
I'm glad and thankful that Paper patched them. And I'm using those fixes.
potent fossil
Just like people use the natural path finding to collect mobs in one place - should mobs, once in closed chamber, go to your sword?
Should they be trick able that a trapdoor let's them stand on it, even though it's open in reality and they'll fall?
@olive marlin no and no
but im sure if they're not patched, some dumbass server owners and players will use them
its no more than pure concentrated dumbassery
levels we've not seen before in history
it's a modern illness
olive marlin
Then you start closing down what MC is. You're getting it down to making everything manual work.
And some people, such as myself both in game and irl, like to automate shit to limit repeated tasks and focus on doing new, exciting things. Learn something new. Do something new.
potent fossil
Then make a modpack.
Agree to disagree, sir. It's dumbassery and I don't support it.
Patch all bugs.
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yaknow, there's for sure a way to just make a plugin block or something that drops the item you want forever in exchange for like 4 nether stars
or just unpatch the bugs by forking paper or making mods for it 
potent fossil
mhm that was what he said
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the server software however should not be required to do that shit for you
potent fossil
my stance is that the server software should not be "not patching" just because mojang hasn't fixed it themselves
it's still a fucking bug and needs to be fixed
it should not be used
olive marlin
As I said, I'm not a fan myself of dupes. Even though I understand people who are fans of it.
potent fossil
i don't
i simply do not, they're dumbasses and need to go sit in the corner
rock brain
fucking troglodytes
olive marlin
Calling everyone who disagrees with you a dumbass. Hmm 🤔
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if someone likes it, i'm not going to change their mind; they're free to handle their own issue, because i sure as hell ain't affected by it
potent fossil
They are dumbasses for wanting to depend on bugs, yes.
Is this...a hot take?
Really?
Aw, fuck. I can't call them troglodytes.
Modern troglodytes still exist. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Malta_-_Mellieha_-_Triq_l-Gherien_(Triq_l-Erwieh)_01_ies.jpg/1920px-Malta_-_Mellieha_-_Triq_l-Gherien_(Triq_l-Erwieh)_01_ies.jpg
(see below the cliff, there is a house carved in lol)
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ok thats actually pretty fucking cool
potent fossil
it is
olive marlin
I wonder where you draw the line then. A block game is inherent for having questionable behavior.
Is the fact that enderman can't hit you if you are in 2 high space a bug?
Is the fact that if you place a trapdoor on the ceiling of 2block high mob farm, only creepers will spawn? (And spiders).
Where is the line between a "bug" and "intended behavior"?
I guess everyone draws the line somewhere else. And that fine in a sandbox game.
potent fossil
If it's marked as a bug on mojira, but not yet fixed my mojang, it is a bug.
cedar spade
Paper is an opinionated server software at the end of the day, it's not trying to cater for people who use bugs as a part of their normal gameplay
potent fossil
Mind blowing, right?
In those cases, paper should fix them if paper can.
That's my stance.
grand pewter
default = fix
olive marlin
I feel like some things could've been made better - but that's my personal opinion and so I create plugins that extend it for us.
grand pewter
although i like that paper strives to keep vanilla behaviour built in
potent fossil
The people who get mad because paper fixed something mojang has scheduled to fix but hasn't yet, those are dumbasses.
heady spear
@potent fossil ❤️
olive marlin
Well, there's Mojang bugs that are marked bugs, but they don't fix it on purpose.
potent fossil
That does not change my stance.
If it's marked as a bug in mojira but not fixed, paper should patch it.
(if they can)
olive marlin
I want to see Paper fix QC.
potent fossil
idfk what the hell QC is
olive marlin
QuasiConnectivity.
heady spear
if they do that then ill riot
olive marlin
Redstone bug.
heady spear
It's a feature™️
olive marlin
That's the point of my talk tbh ^^
potent fossil
if mojang has marked it as a "feature ™️" then fine, keep it. if it's a fucking BUG, then patch it.
this should not be a hard conversation
i dont understand why you are being so fucking dense
heady spear
It's a fundamental part of redstone
potent fossil
like a goddamn boulder
olive marlin
It's a redstone bug - but it's kept cause it's usefull.
potent fossil
mojang has said it is working as intended
it may have originally been reported as a bug
but mojang has written it off
this is not a hard thing to fucking think about
if it's a bug
an actual fucking BUG
then patch it
stop being stupid, please
heady spear
It wasn't intended behaviour, but it was kept because people wanted it
kinda the same deal with tnt duping rn
potent fossil
It wasn't intended behaviour, but it was kept because people wanted it
@heady spear and mojang marked it as working as intended
olive marlin
That's another thing.
potent fossil
it's not marked as a bug in mojira
it's marked as WAI
so it's...fine.
we're not even on the same topic anymore
so whatever
heady spear
im gönna deploy arkitektonika i think
i just need to stop being lazy and get cloudflare setup
but i dont wanna
nvm im gonna nap
potent fossil
wow good luck with getting cron to actually run bc my server is falling apart
heady spear
idc about expiration rn lol