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upper flicker
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change my mind

ancient bolt
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in 3 months people will have gotten used to the new UI and then the next time they change it people will be mad

void void
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you're cancer

ancient bolt
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just like how when github updated to the previous design everyone hated it

upper flicker
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probably

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everything is cancer in 2020

slim nymph
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we need to rewrite paper repo history to ditch the old spigot commits

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md5 is beating everyone else 😦

static badge
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rewrite it noballs

ancient bolt
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but the truth is design has to be constantly evolving or it'll get stale and out of date

upper flicker
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I have the original commit, we can do it

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itll just you know, be work

slim nymph
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lol mainly work for the PR's

static badge
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isn't it like

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1 command

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1 force push

slim nymph
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long as its coordinated easy for us

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yeah

static badge
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and 100 prs broken

quick musk
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hey, when paper 1.16 will be available?

tiny coral
upper flicker
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it is but itll change all the commits to be "commited by" whoever does it

slim nymph
upper flicker
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to do it without that you'd need to write a really simple script

static badge
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work tbh

ancient bolt
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once we decide to do what @slim nymph wants and dump spigot support we can start over fresh

quick musk
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oh, sorry, @slim nymph . btw, there is nothing about release info/dates

ashen cliff
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👏

cunning raft
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golden gust
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ashen cliff
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There is no ETA.

lapis totem
ashen cliff
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Just replace that with 32.13.2020.

warm anchor
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Lol

void void
pulsar wigeon
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but krusic, the year doesn't have 32 months

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runs

ashen cliff
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That's the point anyway.

ancient bolt
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what about paper 1.16.1?

austere ivy
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why does gradle have so many TASKS

pulsar wigeon
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Z give me dev rq so i can kick demon

warm anchor
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Lol

upper flicker
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dev has guild admin

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thats a big hard nope

ancient bolt
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devs can't kick devs tho

pulsar wigeon
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well demote demon rq so i can kick him then

ancient bolt
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only Z can

pulsar wigeon
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:^)

upper flicker
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just be glad he isnt spamming you with taylor emotes

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thats the real crime

ancient bolt
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I should write a discord bot to do that

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a taymoji after ever message

cunning raft
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did they already replace the 1.16 jar

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for realms fixes

upper flicker
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not afaik

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I also dont know ifs the server's fault realms is having problems

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or just realms fault

cunning raft
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i thought they moved realms code into the main codebase

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or was it vice versea

upper flicker
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uh

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idk

unreal quest
fallen magnet
upper flicker
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all I saw though was just realms throwing up azure status messages

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so idk if its overloaded, or there's an actual like infra problem

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or just vanilla jar being dumb

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dont know that theyve really said much about it

frigid bison
tawny marsh
ancient bolt
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paper realms when

scenic lintel
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Jeez, I forgot what the update day hysteria was like lol

serene bolt
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the day is still young

unborn girder
scenic lintel
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I just want paper 1.17

austere ivy
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although gradle's wrapper or whatever is weird I really like how gradle works

scenic lintel
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Who cares about the nether? I’m all about the snowier snow

fallen oracle
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The day is super young for md. It's like 2AM there.

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Maybe 3.

upper flicker
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well he's on his own new day over there glare

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he's already gotten over today

austere ivy
fallen oracle
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Oh tru tru

snow coyote
sharp juniper
golden gust
tall goblet
fallen sleet
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haha my server definitely runs slower on vanilla than paper

fast summit
quasi valley
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oh no!

serene bolt
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free monkaS

fallen oracle
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Oh no

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slim nymph
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it clearly says "author: nossr50"

stiff yarrow
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@fast summit it’s open source, you can compile it if you want

void void
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mcmmo? free? nooo KEKW

pulsar wigeon
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oh man, a way to get open source projects for free?

potent fossil
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@fast summit he leaks it himself on blackspigot

fast summit
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soo... it's open source but costs 15 usd

static badge
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wait really

scenic lintel
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I paid for the convenience of not compiling it

potent fossil
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yes

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nossr do u leak mcmmo on blackspigot? kekw

elfin seal
potent fossil
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It costs $15 for the convenience of having support and it compiled for you

golden gust
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yes

potent fossil
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If you don't wan, then don't

static badge
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I feel like I'm being trolled

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no way

potent fossil
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no he actually does

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.g mcmmo blackspigot

potent fossil
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he leaks it himself

fast summit
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well.

limber knotBOT
thorny totem
austere ivy
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does he actually?

fast summit
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sorry for the confusion then, XD

potent fossil
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yes.

austere ivy
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I remember Terraria posting torrents for free

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their reasoning was that people are going to torrent it anyway, might as well have it safe for them.

potent fossil
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yea

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im a proponent of leaking one's own premium plugin

fast summit
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Might as well share

potent fossil
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it gives access, and if they like it they will remember you leaked it yourself and that they can buy it from you

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good strategy

fast summit
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has version 2.1.130

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1 higher than on spigotmc

tall goblet
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Does anyone how to improve performance on a ARM server? Any tweaks?

dull umbra
surreal arch
austere ivy
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I strongly dislike round pfps on github

void void
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ARM is largely untested area

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@dull umbra YOOO

dull umbra
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Yooooo

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😂

quasi valley
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I liked the full/square pictures better as well

tall goblet
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ARM is largely untested area
@void void Understood

stiff yarrow
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I did leak it myself but then the site was 404 for a while so I assumed it died

quasi valley
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wow am I being bullied with kneny

potent fossil
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nope still der

void void
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you should use arm64 if possible

thorny totem
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cuz we like you Kenny 😂

fast summit
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lmao

empty galleon
devout torrent
fast summit
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just grab mcMMO from the paper jenkins

tall goblet
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you should use arm64 if possible
@void void Already done Kernel is ARMv8 -> ARM64

void void
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and if you can do it then arm64 netty epoll natives

rare herald
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Lawl, glanced over in the Spigot Discord. Nonstop stream of people asking "is 1.16 out".

void void
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or support nossr....

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or both!

quasi valley
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it's actually quite fine here now, also with the channel, mods and all lol

void void
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support and then download from ci

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yeah, it was worse before

fast summit
tall goblet
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and if you can do it then arm64 netty epoll natives
@void void whats that?

fast summit
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I supported enough people

golden gust
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.mini

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) xkcd: Ballmer Peak (1 October 2007)

ancient bolt
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.proprietary

graceful sigil
fast summit
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I own 14 premium plugins

limber knotBOT
fast summit
potent fossil
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Sigh, RMS

void void
ancient bolt
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The first company I worked for as a software dev was called RMS

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fun fact

potent fossil
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I'm conflicted over that man

vernal moth
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He's an extremist

pulsar wigeon
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Really Manly Swifties

vernal moth
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That's always bad

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RMS is amazing

vestal oar
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his ideals

patent forum
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the food choices he makes

proven torrent
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help

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I need to update

cedar spade
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:kneny:

proven torrent
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how do I do that

late field
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u dl new jar

cedar spade
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petition to add kneny to this server

proven torrent
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and delete old

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delete old jar?

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for 1.16

void void
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just in case i get kicked from via version we need kneny here

golden gust
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press f

potent fossil
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yea, but RMS also indirectly supported epstein

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which like

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lol yikes

austere ivy
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define indirectly supported

proven torrent
rare herald
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Damn I'm getting old

Windows Me
Released to manufacturing: June 19, 2000 (20 years ago)

austere ivy
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if he actually did then that's a yikes ,_,

potent fossil
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defended Marvin Minsky who was affiliated

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hence, indirect

proven torrent
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How to update

potent fossil
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it caused his resignation from the FSF

proven torrent
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just delete old jar

potent fossil
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it was a big deal few months back

proven torrent
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and add new?

chrome fulcrum
golden gust
proven torrent
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ok

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sorry

potent fossil
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

potent fossil
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(just in case)

austere ivy
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holy guac gradle is so fast

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where do I put my main class for gradle

pulsar wigeon
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.g gradle guide

obtuse summit
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://gradle.org/guides/ -- Gradle Tutorials and Guides - Gradle: "Jun 11, 2020 ... Here you can find project-based tutorials and topical guides to help you learn Gradle through using it. Whether you are new to..."

austere ivy
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how did I miss that, thank you

proven torrent
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ok

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how do you usually update tho

potent fossil
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replace jar

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when it's ready

proven torrent
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ok

potent fossil
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but it's not yet

proven torrent
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ik

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I am asking for future

pulsar wigeon
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you were literally answered 3 times now

potent fossil
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the process is just replace jar

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take a backup first, but yea

proven torrent
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ok

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oh

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ok then

potent fossil
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that should be common sense

proven torrent
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how to take backup

potent fossil
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copy folder

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save it elsewhere

rare herald
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Pay me $500 and I'll update your Paper JAR for you

proven torrent
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all?

rare herald
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Once the update is released ofc

proven torrent
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lmao

potent fossil
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yes all of it

proven torrent
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ok

potent fossil
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just copy it, save it elsewhere

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thats a backup

proven torrent
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I have a bungee neteork

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so

worn token
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Okay so just a general question for my knowledge; Spigot is a branch of Bukkit, and Paper is built on top of Spigot? Or is Spigot built on top of Bukkit, with Paper on top of Spigot?

proven torrent
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;-;

potent fossil
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You just said the same thing twice @worn token

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And the answer is yes.

worn token
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Sorry, I meant fork

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Not branch

pulsar wigeon
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intelli, take the shitty "jokes" elsewhere

worn token
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But that answers my question thank you

potent fossil
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CraftBukkit was OG. Spigot built on top of CB. Paper built on top of Spigot.

rare herald
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Spigot was basically what Paper is, back in the day

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er

worn token
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Gotcha okay. Thanks!

potent fossil
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You're welcome

rare herald
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i.e. The "high-performance" fork of Craftbukkit

spice pawn
carmine hinge
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How long did getting Paper 1.15 out take?

static badge
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short time

steep sparrow
carmine hinge
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Any reason 1.16 would take much longer?

potent fossil
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We don't know yet

rare herald
carmine hinge
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saw that

potent fossil
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Spigot isn't out.

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We can't even guess.

umbral hull
potent fossil
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We'd have to see Spigot's work first.

quiet yoke
potent fossil
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For all intents and purposes, Paper is waiting for an update as much as everyone else is.

carmine hinge
potent fossil
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lol

carmine hinge
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not sure why i was kicked, was not asking for an ETA

potent fossil
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You kind of did, indirectly.

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But don't argue about it

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It's not up for debate

carmine hinge
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I was just curious why people are worried about paper taking longer this time

potent fossil
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PepeLaugh the mods are trigger happy on update day

potent fossil
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Paper is not taking longer.

static badge
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watch the fuck out

void void
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thats a good thing

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no need to worry

potent fossil
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Spigot isn't out so we can't tell you anything.

void void
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longer it takes, more possibly stable it'll be

prime radish
median crane
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.eta

whole glacier
potent fossil
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lol rite @void void

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

carmine hinge
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I understand and respect that, I was merely wondering why there is additional concern this time

potent fossil
quasi valley
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can you please stop randomly throwing in the eta command, when the person clearly was told already

peak estuary
potent fossil
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@carmine hinge there isn't, except by those who are uninformed

rare herald
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I don't believe there's much additional concern

potent fossil
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ignore them

rare herald
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Not anymore than usual anyways

void void
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i'd comment on that topic but it's not good idea right now

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:p

rare herald
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People always freak out on update day

carmine hinge
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Who keeps kicking me? 🤦‍♂️

waxen panther
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I see it’s going well warriors

median crane
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@waxen panther hi

waxen panther
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love u

median crane
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love u x2

waxen panther
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😳

stiff sparrow
fervent bluff
void void
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ah yea young love

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brocc put a ring on it

waxen panther
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I will

void void
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it'll end once the summers done don't you worry

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or don't pull out

median crane
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brocco and i will last forever

void void
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it's cheaper

carmine hinge
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looks like 1.16 is mostly client side updates + new nether stuff

void void
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thats what they all say

waxen panther
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Gotta deliver now though, I’ll put a ring on when I get back

median crane
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its more than blood what unites us

twin lagoon
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hi loski

median crane
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hi

twin lagoon
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saas?

median crane
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saas

twin lagoon
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saas broccolai?

median crane
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yes

twin lagoon
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hot

median crane
carmine hinge
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like, most of the 'technical' section of the changelog was stuff irrelevant to servers

pulsar wigeon
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you clearly have no clue how anything works

median crane
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Oh my

pulsar wigeon
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so i'd suggest you just sit and wait patiently instead of continuing this discussion

potent fossil
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^

median crane
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man i didnt know they served roasts on this server

carmine hinge
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I don't know, that's why I'm trying to learn

median crane
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what a great place

potent fossil
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This server is nothing but roasts. You just haven't been here long enough.

serene bolt
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well the wiki page isn't going to help you learn the codebase

golden gust
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we got starbucks on rival

naive meadow
spice finch
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Be aware of Viper, he's furry

potent fossil
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no he's not furry

spice finch
potent fossil
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he's a furry

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that letter is important

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shut up furry

spice finch
ashen cliff
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I think we can agree he is both.

still cape
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🙄

void void
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ew furry

median crane
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I got banned from a server I was with micky for sending furry porn

void void
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??? kekw

median crane
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@twin lagoon

carmine hinge
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oh, they changed redstone behavior

void void
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are you proud of it

finite wave
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Yo why did github turn into kidsclub?

void void
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wtf

carmine hinge
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so many people are going to hate that

red nimbus
carmine hinge
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watch 1.15 turn into the next 1.7/1.8/1.12 except for redstoners this time

static badge
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redstone community hates any change

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good or bad

carmine hinge
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i know some guys who like redstone a lot, they get so salty every time mojang messes with redstone

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they refuse to update bc of it

cunning raft
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redstone community isn't as pissy pantsy as the pvp community

olive marlin
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1.16 makes more new things possible than it breaks. And you have fixes for most breakages this time.

void void
cunning raft
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^^

olive marlin
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I think generally it' not bad.

pulsar wigeon
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imagine having to rebuild things tho

potent fossil
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i mean, so long as mojang doesn't break the turing completeness of redstone i don't see why anyone would complain

rare herald
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The idiotic thing I could see people staying on 1.15 for is... zero tick farms.

potent fossil
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grumble maybe

lament patio
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Rebuilding in a sandbox building game? I'm livid

rigid pebble
carmine hinge
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they messed with block storage

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wonder if that'll break anything

void void
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paper patching dupe bugs created huge outrage already

rain sage
carmine hinge
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what a world

indigo bone
olive marlin
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Yeah. But a lot of it was because there's no replacement for some of the things, unfortunately.
If Mojang implemented SciCrafts moveable TE - I'm sure there'd be a lot less hate.

potent fossil
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did they break its turing completeness?

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if not...what's the problem?

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ok

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well, then yea

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idk what anyone is complaining about

forest thorn
carmine hinge
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what's with the sync chunk writes

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only on windows too

forest thorn
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w

hollow spruce
carmine hinge
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some ntfs weirdness?

upper flicker
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they havent said

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we think its for less corruption if it crashes

rare herald
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only on windows too

Time to blame the Microsoft buyout

void void
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wouldnt be surprised if it was ntfs weirdness

upper flicker
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but uh, we did in paper and it was the quickest revert ever

carmine hinge
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jmx monitoring looks interesting

ocean drift
empty sedge
carmine hinge
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oh, i missed that one

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why would someone want to use that?

halcyon sparrow
carmine hinge
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it also makes the server appear offline

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i can just imagine all the people using that thinking it secures their servers under bungee

rare herald
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Lol... yeah

carmine hinge
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should preemptively make it a pin on the spigot forums

outer canyon
true canyon
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whoa it's miclebrick

carmine hinge
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👋

median crane
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who are no table

rare herald
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Whoa it's mbax 👀

void void
true canyon
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👀

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No table are folks in desperate need of better furnishings.

orchid pelican
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Should make a bot that auto responds to eta lol

cunning raft
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no

median crane
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.eta

vale patrol
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is 1.16 vanilla server faster than 1.15?

true canyon
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Or, @median crane remove the space between the words and re-read.

carmine hinge
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you've got the right guy

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

mortal zinc
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@ previous discussion before moving to general

vale patrol
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i knew 1.15 was like

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2x faster than 1.14

mortal zinc
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well, part of the steps I mean is... has spigot already updated to 1.16? have we finished the base modification of all files necessary for 1.16? what about bug fixes / minor improvements?

median crane
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@true canyon holy fuck

carmine hinge
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i research automatic furniture placement at uni 😎

rare herald
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Type .eta, have a bot that just replies "No."

slim nymph
golden gust
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once

carmine hinge
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yeah for wayfair

pulsar wigeon
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people don't understand "no" either

golden gust
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the concept of "once" generally imples that it's not there yet

orchid pelican
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Any message containing when and 1.16 just gets a reply “no”

dawn stratus
true canyon
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"no? No because it's out already! Yay! Where's the download link?"

vale patrol
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the real 1.16 was the friends we made along the way

static badge
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the real 1.16 were the people kicked for asking for it

potent fossil
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fuck them friends

limpid grail
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i would like to be fed to goblins

potent fossil
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.kill Jai

void void
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can be arranged

limber knotBOT
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rams a rocket launcher up Jai's ass and lets off a few rounds.

limpid grail
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hahaha

potent fossil
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oops, that wasn't goblins

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same effect

golden gust
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The entire actual development process is public, any commits, etc, will be in #paper-github like any other release

void void
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.eat Jai

limpid grail
mortal zinc
limpid grail
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oi I've been in this server for years

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why the kick

pulsar wigeon
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you asked for it?

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you literally asked for it.

limpid grail
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i asked to be fed to goblins

pulsar wigeon
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yes.

warm anchor
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Lol ahaha

void void
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that was the goblin

golden gust
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we kicked you into the goblin pit

limpid grail
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that was not the fucking goblin

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that was the kick

slim nymph
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wiz is the goblin

potent fossil
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^

still cape
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it was wiz interpreting it tho jai

slim nymph
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him kicking you is eating you

golden gust
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You respawned

sullen owl
golden gust
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Don't make us take another life 🔪

still cape
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gotta consider your audience when you say those things

limpid grail
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i would like to be fed to the goblin

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hahaha here we go

still cape
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he's been on goblin feeding duty for a while now he's very good

minor badge
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the fact that everyone is called a retard around here makes "those things" fairly okay tbh

still cape
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oh no

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you're just asking for trouble

slim nymph
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well preferably noone gets called that around here

pulsar wigeon
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except leaf

slim nymph
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but sadly some of yall cant figure that out

pulsar wigeon
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leaf and i are best friends :^)

upper flicker
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leaf is usually the one calling people it

pulsar wigeon
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we call each other retards all the time

upper flicker
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playing nice isnt fun aikar

vernal moth
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Hahaahaha

warm anchor
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It’s their way to show love.

vernal moth
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Mojang pushed a new update

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Without telling anyone

void void
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leaf now has the discord link bookmarked

vernal moth
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New mappings

true canyon
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The throwing around of that word is one of the things that discourages me from conversing here more regularly.

ancient bolt
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any big sur issues yet Z?

limpid grail
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why @true canyon

upper flicker
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uh

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kinda

cunning raft
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New mappings
client only?

upper flicker
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nothing super related to it itself, just all the teething issues that come when they swap the UI

ancient bolt
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@true canyon I strongly dislike it. Gonna start cracking down harder as I see it more I think

void void
slim nymph
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good, do it demon 😛

waxen panther
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Only big sur issue I’ve had is the fucked battery icon in settings

upper flicker
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old apps have little rendering glitches in them, stuff doesnt look as pretty

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homebrew is bork'd

waxen panther
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But that’s probably just a placeholder

void void
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demon it's time to go back to sleep

upper flicker
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but thats par for the course

pulsar wigeon
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mojang force pushed to master

void void
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:^)

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, to main*

ancient bolt
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@slim nymph I'm not active on discord enough 😦

waxen panther
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Homebrew is borked?

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Uhoh

slim nymph
#

nah we need demon to kick people for R word

upper flicker
#

as far as stability, first-party stuff, etc, its actually mostly fine

#

the new icons are really nice in some places and god awful in others

#

hopefully they iron that out

potent fossil
#

ive been using nothing but linux and letting my macbook sit because of the swelling battery

golden gust
#

homebrew being bork is typical macOS release stuff, tbqh

upper flicker
#

yeah homebrew will get fixed as we get closer

ancient bolt
#

oh i forgot the constant homebrew bullshit on new releases

upper flicker
#

this is standard new stuff

warm anchor
#

Is that not safe. I mean the battery lol

ancient bolt
#

that's annoying

south sable
fallen oracle
#

Wait so 1.16 just had a mapping change after already being released?

cunning raft
#

jfc mojang

fallen oracle
#

Does this mean VV is about to break again?

void void
#

i just use nix

#

on osx

#

no problemos

upper flicker
#

only if they bumped the proto

slim nymph
#

prob prepping 1.16.1 lol

vernal moth
#

It's basically a force push

upper flicker
#

ugh no pls

true canyon
#

Mapping change or full ninja update to patch something critical but too ashamed to bump version?

void void
fallen oracle
#

Where's Kenny

#

He has the tool to check

pulsar wigeon
#

2:05 PM] modmuss50: the new 1.16 isnt the same as 1.16-rc1

slim nymph
#

so they updated 1.16 official in launcher and ONLY mappings entry changed?

honest bloom
quasi valley
#

he wat

half wing
#

they killed him

ancient bolt
#

maybe they forgot the Main-Class attribute in their manifest

pulsar wigeon
#

did they....accidentally push 1.16-rc1 as 1.16?

ancient bolt
#

super embarrassing

pulsar wigeon
#

and then realize that wasn't the real 1.16?

willow remnant
slim nymph
#

official is suppose to be rc1 with a protocol bump

fallen oracle
#

I could've sworn lime said 1.16 -rc1 was 1.16 yesterday.

quasi valley
#

I think they had to fix an urgent issue

#

else the pro id would be as with rc1

cunning raft
#

the mappings look the same

finite wave
#

I will not use windows for patches anymore fuck tyhat shit

quasi valley
#

smth smth realms

keen elm
cunning raft
#

i just diff checked them

#

9 removals 10 additions

void void
true canyon
#

That's not the same, that's difference.

slim nymph
#

prob fixing line encodings

#

adding trailing new line lol

twin lagoon
#

it's a realms fix

#

don't worry

quasi valley
#

^

cunning raft
#

im seeing wat was changed in mappings

twin lagoon
#

nothing major changed

#

just a realms client fix

slim nymph
#

"It is purely a crash fix in UI on the client" DB just said

austere ivy
#

Source?

slim nymph
#

places

median crane
#

does java have stable AOT

cunning raft
#

looks like the small mappings changes were stuff with entity selector and some nbt stuff

austere ivy
#

squints

slim nymph
#

we have private channels w/ mojang 😛

vernal moth
#

The new 1.16 is a fix for realms

cunning raft
#

md should be able to update his mappings quickly tho

carmine hinge
#

i'm going to wait till 1.16.1

vernal moth
#

we have private channels w/ mojang 😛
@slim nymph which you said not to talk about :P

unreal quarry
#

Aikar confirmed nda breach!
runs away

twin lagoon
#

that channel isn't nda

mortal zinc
#

why was i kicked?

carmine hinge
#

how about you guys

twin lagoon
#

don't talk about the others though

warm anchor
#

Smh my head

golden gust
#

We have multiple different channels to mojang

cunning raft
#

like you haven't leaked it multiple times mini smh

twin lagoon
#

^

cunning raft
#

"leaked"

icy narwhal
ancient bolt
#

That wasn't an NDA comment

golden gust
#

We're not breaching around which communities specifically, etc; some of them are more open to who's around

#

I think we have one, maybe

twin lagoon
#

they have nothing to look for here

golden gust
#

God knows

zealous oyster
mortal zinc
#

i was trying to offer a suggestion for the 1.16 ETA and someone interpretted what I did as asking? I wasn't trying to ask....

warm anchor
#

If you read

ancient bolt
#

We don't need your suggestion on the matter I promise

mortal zinc
#

i was offering a better solution that wouldn't take much work and might appease more people so less people have to ask

ancient bolt
#

We've done this a few times before

pulsar wigeon
#

we're not soliciting advice, you were warned to stop

warm anchor
#

Lol

ebon dust
pulsar wigeon
#

if you'd like to continue arguing about it, the kick will become a ban

mortal zinc
#

warned to stop giving advice?

#

hang on

#

you're putting words in my mouth

zealous oyster
#

Anyone know of a way to essentially run 1.15.2 paper for plugins but have a 1.16 map?

#

Is there something similar to viaversion?

pulsar wigeon
#

no

grim lantern
limber knotBOT
#

That's... impossible

stray oyster
#

Not quite

graceful needle
slim nymph
#

were posting info in announcements vector, its already part of process

stray oyster
#

Not quite impossible

slim nymph
#

we've done this every update

stray oyster
#

But too damn hard

limber knotBOT
#

That'd be taking all the new features of 1.16 and implementing them from scratch against 1.15 on your own, faster than Mojang can put out 1.16 and Spigot can update for it

slim nymph
#

oh did you kick him

pulsar wigeon
#

he gone

latent valve
#

F

stray oyster
#

Wiz good

pulsar wigeon
#

really no need to repeat these conversations over and over

ancient bolt
#

poor guy, all he wanted to do was argue and break the rules

steady ibex
warm anchor
dusk drift
#

Not more 2020 PepeHands

latent valve
twin lagoon
#

i remember the old days you would have some super hacky spigot build that messed with protocol to somehow show new blocks but was always buggy

#

Carbon was fucking amazing

#

those were the days

#

.g minecraft carbon 1.9

void void
#

jake!

young arrow
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
#

aw

#

the google bot was doing so well today with github

half wing
#

._.

twin lagoon
#

it was 1.7 to 1.8 apparently

#

so fair enough

solar meadow
void void
#

should've put spigot into the search, i think it works better then

limber knotBOT
#

I think there was one for 1.7 too but it wasn't public

void void
#

.g minecraft carbon spigot 1.9

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/carbon.1258/ -- Carbon | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "Adds future Minecraft content to older Spigot versions. ... Plz update to 1.9 :D pls pls pls pls pls Thanks m8 thanks thanks thanks :) GG bro ..."

austere ivy
#

Although gradle can use maven projects as dependencies, can maven use gradle plugins as dependencies?

void void
#

yeah put spigot for finding plugins i guess

slim nymph
#

yes its same system hedi

golden gust
#

spigot added 1.8 proto support to 1.7

limber knotBOT
#

Someone leaked one that was getting shared around on server owner skype groups so the original creator released it for real

golden gust
#

So, doing the whole block thing was kinda ez

pulsar wigeon
#

gradle can also use ivy technically

golden gust
#

was limited, however

pulsar wigeon
#

but like, who uses ivy kekwhyper

austere ivy
#

Does anyone in the dev community use ant?

void lily
lucid frigate
limber knotBOT
#

Only via maven-ant-plugin

#

It's the only way to get somewhat full scripting inside maven

#

If plugins aren't available to do what you want you can just fire up some ant

west cosmos
random gull
austere ivy
#

What's that from?

#

just read the message above, I'm dum

quasi valley
#

kashike is involved in everything, isn't he

tight stream
upper flicker
#

kashike is the minecraft nsa

cobalt aurora
stray oyster
#

👀

#

Really is

#

Hasn’t invaded Via* yet

peak ravine
austere ivy
#

It freaks me out when I join a random server and kash is up there at the top with "Project Lead" or whatever.

ruby holly
quasi valley
#

he has

plucky hedge
stray oyster
austere ivy
#

How do you even get that well-known in an entire community?

pulsar wigeon
#

kash gets around ;)

hard valley
pulsar wigeon
#

it's the cat pictures tbh

void void
#

I thought 1.16 was comming out in november Oof

fallen oracle
#

Rep in the bedroom.

#

He offers services for roles.

golden nebula
void void
#

announce

#

ments

true canyon
#

kashike isn't one person, but rather five with different assigned hours of activity and a 30 minute transitional period between shifts where they catch each other up, and detailed logs of important information

austere ivy
pulsar wigeon
#

i mean if that were true he'd probably actual contribute to projects more tbh

limber knotBOT
#

kashike is trying to be mbaxter

austere ivy
#

I would not doubt that.

pulsar wigeon
#

he mostly hangs around most of them and only works on a few of his own

undone pond
cedar spade
austere ivy
#

Why Amaranth, is mbax well-known too?

true canyon
#

Sometimes the kashike krew, as they're called, mess up and have two simultaneous conversations.

upper flicker
#

are we going to have to add another cat carrier channel

austere ivy
#

I know they moderate admincraft, I know that much.

cedar spade
#

No I have no idea who mbaxter is

true canyon
#

😦

austere ivy
#

mbax what do you do?

pulsar wigeon
#

bax is a nobody

#

he doesn't even have a table

limber knotBOT
#

If I ever see a MC modder active in another community it's more likely to be mbaxter than anyone else

void void
cedar spade
#

Just some rando who was one of the original Bukkit contributors and has been in this community longer than some of the people here have been alive (maybe idk about the last part)

austere ivy
#

mbax are you a he or she?

true canyon
#

not original contributor, but a contributor.

pulsar wigeon
#

matt baxter is a cat

quasi valley
#

he's an it

ancient bolt
#

mbax is an it

cedar spade
#

well, pre-Spigot

austere ivy
#

thought you were a she but wiz just called you a he thonk

worn ember
#

so ur the one we have to blame for the trash that is bukkit? jkjk

true canyon
#

You can refer to me as he, him, or kitty. To be clear I have no furry-like interests, but just like cats.

quasi valley
#

sorry viper

austere ivy
#

gotcha.

limber knotBOT
#

He has been around longer than me

warm anchor
#

You almost got viper excited

ancient bolt
#

I personally refer to mbax as baby but that's different

true canyon
#

You can blame me for the scoreboard api

cedar spade
#

sorry kenny

worn ember
#

liking cats = furry

void void
#

what does no table mean?

cedar spade
#

Damnit bax why'd you board the scores

void void
#

no table

wide chasm
#

That we took your table

solid bane
void void
#

yes

glossy sun
cedar spade
#

We don't have tables duh

wide chasm
#

We have a large collection in private channels

true canyon
#

I have to say it's a lot nicer not being a big part of any huge project now.

wide chasm
#

All stolen from people

void void
#

what about my desk?

cedar spade
#

cough

void void
#

cool

wide chasm
#

You can keep your desk, we only want tables from special people

austere ivy
#

I don't think anyone except viper and leaf are furries here.

worn ember
#

ya'll would enjoy playing rimworld, you get a mood debuf for eating without a table

void void
true canyon
#

I'm disappointed in the inconsistency of not biting the O

worn ember
#

its not even squares

void void
#

ok bro

worn ember
#

its rounded squares

true canyon
void void
#

i saw it bro

worn ember
#

which makes it even uglier

pastel palm
worn ember
#

yes

#

its fire with a blue filter over

#

its cold fire

#

stick ur hand in it

void void
#

The question will be

proper mist
void void
#

how optimized will 1.16 be

austere ivy
#

0%

olive marlin
#

No, there's no blue fire animation if you burn :/

void void
#

wtf

#

why

austere ivy
#

1.16.1 will be 45% and then 1.16.2 will be 96%

#

that's just how the rules work

void void
#

change ur name to Prof_Bloodstone (1.16)

thorny totem
#

stares at 1.16.10

worn ember
#

imagine if 9000 users blocked viper

#

8998

limber knotBOT
fallen canopy
true canyon
#

whats this

worn ember
#

shows how much people care about IRC

cosmic niche
high grove
void void
#

what

eternal nexus
magic river
#

Vanilla 1.16 is definitely out, otherwise we wouldn't have so many new people in here

cedar spade
#

wait vanilla 1.16 is out!?!?

void void
#

no way omg kekw

quasi valley
#

omg

shrewd peak
void void
#

Yes Viper

#

He was

austere ivy
#

for some reason my pom.xml spigot dependency isn't working.

warm anchor
#

Yeah it’s not our problem is people has a potato as PC at home

magic river
#

If singleplayer is significantly faster that could be because of server improvements

austere ivy
#

I logged onto a server, 1.16 doesn't seem as good as 1.15.2

#

client-side anyway

bright osprey
austere ivy
#

What communities have we got going on so far?

magic river
#

If every release is another community splitting pretty soon there won't be a community

austere ivy
#

1.8 for the pvpers, 1.7.10 for the mod-players, 1.12.2 for the server hosters, 1.2.5 for the people who don't like integrated servers..

quasi valley
#

why would 1.16 split the community? thonk

true canyon
#

1.8 is for the autoclickers

quick pasture
#

🌮

austere ivy
#

can you not autoclick on 1.9?

magic river
#

1.12 or (gaining rapidly) 1.14 for the mod players

cedar spade
#

sounds like lack of braincells

magic river
#

1.7.10 is only if you want tekkit or something

austere ivy
#

1.14!?

#

WHO would use 1.14 over 1.15!?

cedar spade
#

is tekkit on 1.7.10? I thought it was 1.6.4

true canyon
#

The primary argument for 1.8 pvp is that you can't use rapid-fire clicking, which is realistically only noticeable if you use an auto clicker.

austere ivy
#

my client performance is FAR better on 1.15.2

pulsar wigeon
#

1.2.5/1.4.6/1.6.4 were the old mod versions

#

iirc

void void
cedar spade
#

yeah

past sigil
#

Do you knowif there's a spigot discord ?

austere ivy
#

1.6.4 dw20 pack was the stuff

true canyon
#

Yeah, 1.6.4 was the last stable release of Minecraft 😛

pulsar wigeon
#

lmfao

void void
#

wait really?

#

lol

#

idfk

pulsar wigeon
cedar spade
#

:kneny:

pulsar wigeon
void void
#

b r u h

magic river
#

No one would copy a picture that awful

dry matrix
twilit plank
radiant berry
true canyon
#

Because it can be!

ancient bolt
#

rd-20090510 was the last stable version of minecraft

waxen panther
#

Lmao

void void
#

why many people entering the disc today

cedar spade
#

and people complain when I pin random stuff on MOSS

quasi valley
#

no idea whatsoever why that could be

fallen oracle
#

You literally asked that earlier.

void void
#

I did not

#

bruh

magic river
#

People want to ask for an ETA but are afraid to so they just idle waiting for someone else to do it

void void
#

who

marsh sequoia
spice finch
#

There are more people complaining about people asking for ETA than people asking for ETA

void void
#

who

#

ETA wtf is Eta

strange egret
spice finch
#

Google it

prisma shard
magic river
#

We have to complain about it periodically otherwise people will join who haven't seen such complaints and start asking 😛

quasi valley
#

exactly

spice finch
#

Makes sense

deep cargo
edgy rapids
magic river
#

Plus in my case it's less complaining and more teasing

static badge
#

damn look at all the people

deep cargo
#

.

quick pasture
#

more lurkers who aint gonna type a word

spice finch
#

Ye

magic river
#

zenRIP 10k limit

quasi valley
#

the more people, the more people wiz can kick thinksmart

spice finch
#

If they were bots, they would join at once

fallen oracle
#

I think we've had close to 400-500 join since Mojang released.

magic river
#

Z is going to have a lot of pruning to do

slender jay
#

maybe the bot should print out .eta for each new user

pulsar wigeon
#

z pruned ahead of time

fallen oracle
#

We can just get the limit raised, from what I've been told.

ancient bolt
#

could just make you a mod @magic river and let you do it

deep cargo
#

Jannies fiX SERBER

cedar spade
quasi valley
#

lmao where did you dig that out of

magic river
#

@fresh kayak but when I wouldn't be not a table

fallen oracle
cedar spade
#

secret channels

ancient bolt
#

that's the price you pay for power

magic river
#

Or does that mean you're going to give me a table?

ancient bolt
#

yeah I've shipped one to you

upper flicker
#

there are no table returns

#

dammit demon

ancient bolt
#

it was a personal favor

#

not on behalf of paper

quasi valley
#

time to make that shipment vanish

magic river
#

btw 🌮 sucks, get more 🌯

ancient bolt
#

you're now a dumb taco hater

latent valve
#

🍿

void void
#

hey guys

#

i have quite the burning question here

static badge
#

burritos are less messy

latent valve
#

here we go >.>

sweet knot
cedar spade
#

if you're not careful then @fallen oracle will whip out his mod application video

void void
#

: ^ ]

olive marlin
quasi ledge
upper flicker
#

yeah glare you should share that

magic river
#

There is no positive to 🌮 over 🌯 unless you like to cut up your mouth

upper flicker
#

we're still looking for mods, show them how its done

waxen panther
#

Show video show video

#

wtf

quasi valley
#

I'd just want to be mod to unban everyone wiz bans

fallen oracle
magic river
#

That's my application video

waxen panther
#

Kenny the anti-mod

pulsar wigeon
#

are we just posting weird shit now

cedar spade
#

that and Glare's mod application

austere ivy
#

do you even apply for mod?

void void
austere ivy
#

or do the project developers just plucketh thine from the notables

quasi valley
#

how do you find these templates even

cedar spade
upper flicker
#

we pluck from active people who express interest

#

there is no requirement for you have any other role

ancient bolt
#

we look for the most unqualified

minor badge
magic river
#

No no no, they take your table away because you're cool, not because you'd make a good mod

austere ivy
#

was wiz expressing interest in becoming mod?

twin lagoon
#

getCompletionSuggestions

#

thonk

brave python
pulsar wigeon
#

i literally just volunteered to kick people for 1.14 or 1.15 release

minor badge
#

wonder what characters they're entering for toLowerCase to cause a crash

pulsar wigeon
#

whichever it was at the time

magic river
#

@minor badge You found a bug in the JVM's unicode normalization, wow

void void
#

we pluck from active people who express interest

#

mod pls!!1!1

quasi valley
#

is that just serverside? then I'd say its the servers fault for crashing their own people heh

modern hare
pulsar wigeon
#

oh, unicode in chat is a thing right

minor badge
#

no, that's a server crash by players, kenny

narrow drum
magic river
#

I bet it's when you trying to lowercase an emoji or something

quasi valley
#

OH

pulsar wigeon
#

so client can send unicode to the server?

magic river
#

Yeah

minor badge
#

yes wiz

pulsar wigeon
#

iirc server used to strip extra from client input

#

sooo yea that's a huge fucking attack surface now

cedar spade
#

f u l l u n i c o d e

fallen oracle
#

You gotta submit an application and then pull a Lax for Z.

void void
cunning raft
pulsar wigeon
#

zeno, stop

#

^^

deep cargo
#

:T

magic river
#

Server used to kick client if it sent anything other than renderable ASCII or space

deep cargo
#

MAdmins

pulsar wigeon
#

right

austere ivy
#

viper you do not want to see

magic river
#

Japanese folks had to patch it to support Shift-JIS

void void
pulsar wigeon
deep cargo
pulsar wigeon
#

imagine not being able to talk in your native language

zinc lagoon
glad knoll
waxen panther
minor badge
#

i guess i'll just have to fabric mod to sanitise the brigadier text before completion

lone cradle
pulsar wigeon
quasi valley
#

lol

void void
ancient bolt
#

why is that even an API

pulsar wigeon
#

as a c# dev: no u

cedar spade
#

viper I think you're missing the point

waxen panther
#

It’s common in a lot of other languages, some people are just used to it

near ingot
waxen panther
#

Not really a big deal

true canyon
#

Oh that code is beautiful. Disable all the plugins!

pulsar wigeon
#

but yea disablePlugins yikes

serene bolt
#

TIL that exists

quasi valley
#

md get out of my channel

pulsar wigeon
#

and then continue startup

#

not even disable and shut down...

waxen panther
#

Rip this guy

true canyon
#

Similarly, plugins calling the method that cancels all scheduled tasks by all plugins.

cedar spade
#

no

deep cargo
#

squidwards Jannies when they kick people they dont like because theyre madminssquidwards

quasi valley
#

that's bullying

cyan falcon
cedar spade
#

no you're bullying me

magic river
#

It's because Java didn't have modules and module visibility so things needed to be in the same package or public

void void
#

tf was that ZenoWraith

#

what a clown

#

wew