That will basically record where your heads been pointing, so can still git show/etc, those patches, can even reset onto them if you derp'd
#general
golden gust
potent fossil
hmmm
austere ivy
I pushed commits onto github that I would like to delete permanently form the record of everywhere
upper flicker
yes
potent fossil
nice
upper flicker
GH holds every ref you push
golden gust
It's git, it's by design
austere ivy
how do I make my github account private
golden gust
No idea if they gc server side
potent fossil
db pw sitting in GH limbo, should prob reset that repo
golden gust
or how gc works in general there
pulsar wigeon
you can just delete the repo
potent fossil
ik
pulsar wigeon
dont really have to delete your account
austere ivy
I would like to scream
golden gust
you'd wanna reset it anyways, anybody who cloned that repo would still have it
potent fossil
ye
upper flicker
Im not entirely clear on how orphaned refs are handled by git on a pull
I must admit I never really cared and looked into it
by the same token though, I would assume they get it
but I havent looked
unreal quarry
i think they stay forever
golden gust
Yea, I'd probs assume it would pull it unless they're not packing repos or something
unreal quarry
you can find shit i deleted from my forked repo still in closed paper pr's lol
golden gust
depends what you're looking at
austere ivy
my guess is that interactive rebase squashing is different from my alias squash-all
upper flicker
I mean, it is possible to garbage collect oprhaned stuff such that even the reflog cant save you
I just dont know how that behaves when sending the data to the remote
austere ivy
I did find these pieces of gold though
I think that just about tops kash's.
Ah yes, before I knew about git stashing, a whole.. 3 months ago.
Sounds about right, I'm gonna go get some sleep.
(p.s. I love this little bit on git's website)
(they could basically add any single tech company they wanted and they'd still probably be right)
upper flicker
"Companies & Projects using Git"
https://giphy.com/gifs/art-fun-illustrators-7cTTE2Z1OmrFm
austere ivy
haha alright night night
golden gust
So, when we moving to SVN?
upper flicker
right after I jump off a building
pulsar wigeon
imagine trying to learn SVN while paralyzed from the neck down
tired heath
quad damge spawn does now an end portal spawn sound, and with that unimportant imfomation
good night
😄
heady spear
w h a t
tired heath
My game should be ready in one week for closed beta, than it migt get clear :p unfortunatly just with one map since my mates favorit saying is: "Well today if feel like building a new map and helping you".
10 minutes later playing GTA5 or watching youtube
rest of the day
anyways gn8/day
see ya
heady spear
this is a Swedish author/producer/songwriter =))))) I love it when idiots speak out online and lose their entire livelihoods
cosmic raft
heady spear
o he got reported to the police for hate speech, nice
upper flicker
@heady spear how's that tweet working out for him, are the replies going for the jugular?
heady spear
he's most likely going to lose everything
both the left and the right are going after him, which means he fucked up big time
he was a judge at Sweden Got Talent (well, our version) and he has been fired from there already
he was also a member of the liberal party but he "left"/got kicked out
void void
heady spear
lmao the man is doubling down on his opinions on twitter
mighty storm
Man if only it were that Easy, they'd have done it by now....
If only racism didn't exist ya know
That darn racism still plaguing for many years
What language is that btw
Gonna assume Swedish
heady spear
what language is what? the tweet was in English lol
minor badge
what language do u speak dumdum
heady spear
i barely speak any languages tbh
fallen oracle
You have love language 😘
heady spear
do u ever just stand in front of the mirror and admire yourself
fallen oracle
Lately, yeah. My hair is the longest it's ever been, and I kind of like it.
limber knotBOT
i c dumdums
heady spear
go away dumb bot
limber knotBOT
im dumcordist
clever sphinx
mortal zinc
but i wonder if the theory of evolution has part to do with racist mentality
heady spear
I just watched a documentary on human zoos
mortal zinc
o_O
heady spear
Well tbf I had to read about them when I took my course in contemporary zoos too but
yes, yes it did
Essentially, proponents of darwinian evolution very much argued that africans (or anyone darker skinned, really) were "lower" on the evolutionary scale
they argued that they were closer to highly developed monkeys than highly developed humans, and in many cases they classed them as subhuman
mortal zinc
wow
heady spear
the bronx zoo in the 1900s bought a pygmy kid and displayed him in a cage together with monkeys
i learned english 10 minutes ago apparently
well anyway
they'd walk him around and bystanders would poke him with sticks
this was only ~100 years ago, keep that in mind
heady spear
Darwin was quite opposed to these developments but that did not stop the darwinians
mortal zinc
well, now that you mention this
heady spear
eugenics was a development of early darwinian beliefs too
mortal zinc
those events were not even half a century from when Darwin published his "origin of species" book
unreal quarry
meanwhile, higher intelligent beings are looking down at us from space and laughing as we kill each other with our boom sticks
mortal zinc
it's interesting you point that out city, the timeframe
heady spear
So the irony is that the church spoke out against the mistreatment of africans and were instrumental in getting rid of the human zoos
but they mostly did it because they were against evolution, not because they thought africans had any inherent value
mortal zinc
slavery too from what i understand
heady spear
oh I watched another documentary, it was readings from the slave narratives
mortal zinc
= Christian, so naturally I find this conversation of pretty good value
heady spear
they interviewed former slaves in the 30s
30s...
that's not even 100 years ago
and former slaves were still alive
heady spear
As I'm not an American I never really learned much about the slave trade but it didn't hit me how recent the abolishment was
mortal zinc
what are you?
heady spear
Swedish :p
heady spear
lol
But like, if you were born in the 1860's, you could be alive well into the 1960's, so there were probably people born into slavery alive when my parents were born
this is crazy to me
One of the slave narratives was from a 120 year old woman
imagine the shit she went through in her lifetime
heady spear
apparently she was born 1816 (I think) and the interviews were conducted in the 1930s so like
that's insane
heady spear
But darwinian theory went on to inspire hitler's ideologies as well
and darwin's son was a big proponent of eugenics
Evolution is probably one of the most destructive scientific theories ever
mortal zinc
mm
and imagine all the fighting going on today
between evolution and theology specifically
heady spear
i grew up as a creationist
But Sweden being one of the world's most secular countries that changed as soon as school started
limber knotBOT
tbh my stance is I really don't care
heady spear
We had theology classes and clergy members came to visit and all that but there's really no opposition to evolution over here
limber knotBOT
Evolution is compatible, except for the human soul. Though, there's also been discoveries of a single set of parents via DNA stuff I've seen too
heady spear
kinda interesting how it's actually contested abroad
But, regardless, using evolution to draw the conclusion that black people are subhuman is a big stretch and idk what these "great thinkers" were using their brains for
celest coyote
racism and the slave trade and everything surrounding that were very much established before darwinism
limber knotBOT
but ya, eugenics resulting from that, as most things is quite destructive
*as most things, I was typing something else but didn't so that phrase prolly should be gone but w/e
celest coyote
America was sterilizing people due to eugenic thinking
heady spear
not just america
Sweden had an institute for racial biology and they did some pretty shitty things too
celest coyote
sweden seems like a dumb place lol
heady spear
it's a big part of the social democratic party's history, a part they like to cover up and pretend doesn't exist
celest coyote
looks over at coronavirus numbers
heady spear
right well if you looked a little closer you'd see that a lot of the deaths are caused by high spread in nursing homes
which is largely because they're extremely understaffed
especially the ones under private ownership
so we can thank our right wing parties for that
4874 deaths in total. Not great numbers, but compared to the rest of Europe we've done quite well.
Anyway, I gotta go get groceries
mortal zinc
cya man
quasi valley
can you close your own tickets in mojira? 
minor badge
probably?
quasi valley
well that's what I'd hope for
minor badge
but
quasi valley
but I haven't used the old jira design in ages, and I don't think I can 😛
minor badge
f
quasi valley
also interesting how many german mods they have 😂
oh yeah left the comment and has already been closed 15 minutes ago
vernal moth
I don't even know every mod
Heck, I would only be able to name two, poke and md, lol
potent fossil
:/
just officially cancelled my hotels and flight
i mean they were already cancelled but like
spice finch
for vacations or what?
potent fossil
its official now, booking removed and refunds being processed
spice finch
good morning btw ;d
vernal moth
Where were you going?
potent fossil
im in a long distance relationship, see my S/O once a year for 3-4 weeks (while we figure out how to deal with US customs, it's really bad with the T dude in office atm)
was going to the philippines
but now i get to wait another year
vernal moth
Uuffff
spice finch
😦
potent fossil
i really do, im hoping i can rebook in winter and go
it'll be a squeeze but im hoping so
otherwise this time 2021
i had this really fucking nice hotel room too
full suite, private pool, bedroom, living room
kitchen, two baths
basically a house
vernal moth
Ah nice
potent fossil
but, cancelled
spice finch
in Poland all restrictions are beginning to be removed and shit happens again
potent fossil
yea, PH has a retard president like some countries i know :)))
he delayed action, covid got real bad, then enforced action and ordered the military to "shoot dead" anyone not obeying quarantine
then lessened quarantine
it got bad again
now he's raising it
again
spice finch
where do you live pimple if i can ask?
potent fossil
im in california
spice finch
ah
potent fossil
my fiance is in a small town outside of metro manila
heady spear
sucks to hear dude :/ I hope you're able to go during the winter
potent fossil
me too
now i need to avoid a depressive slump like the fucking plague
bc its gonna happen, im sure
bday in 3 days; my 'gift' was going to PH :)))))))
i have no plans
probably sit in discord
peak dirge
My state (Georgia) reopened very early and in a very reckless matter. Wouldn't be surprised if more lockdowns are in order.
vernal moth
Isn't the Philippinian president the dude who has a house with crocodiles and wants to feed drug dealers to his crocos?
potent fossil
yes
btw his drug dealer rants are not exaggerated, that mean has extrajudicially executed hundreds of people in Davao
vernal moth
Here in Germany we are almost back to normal, but we also are very low on cases so we can afford that
potent fossil
there are things called DDS -- Duterte Death Squads.
Extrajudicial groups that kill drug dealers.
They operate in Davao
vernal moth
Only thing that isn't really normal here is no clubs and shit and wearing a mask when shopping
And public transportation
spice finch
God, you're using difficult words, I have to translate most of them 
potent fossil
yea, i mean, my state is pretty open... i don't think it should be, but nonetheless
extrajudicial just means outside of the law
spice finch
ah
potent fossil
he literally just murders ppl he suspects to be drug dealers
vernal moth
Mulicia basically
spice finch
dumb
heady spear
imagine having to wear masks
our state epidemiologists don't think they'd serve any purpose so he's just ignoring WHO directives
tbf he did work for the WHO so maybe he knows something we don't 😛
quasi valley
or maybe he doesn't and that's why he's no longer there
unreal quarry
The masks don't work because people are too stupid to use them correctly, imo
bitter quest
vernal moth
spice finch
In Poland we had to wear masks and take care of hygiene - today when there are less infected people most of people doesn't even care about washing hands etc. And if someone wears it - they take it off nose for example
heady spear
meh our approach seems to be working fairly well
quasi valley
fairly well
potent fossil
NZ shut the fuck down entirely and has 0 cases
so
we should really all be doing that
heady spear
I mean the idea wasn't to reduce the number of cases, the idea was to spread them out so that the healthcare system could keep up
but when the protests happened there was an influx of new cases
vernal moth
The idea is to isolise infected
heady spear
so blame BLM I guess
vernal moth
So they can't infect others
heady spear
Right well they happened just as the curve was starting to flatten out in our major cities
spice finch
The problem is that infected people very often doesnt even know about it
vernal moth
Because ppl were wearing masks
@spice finch that's why masks are important, so you don't infect ppl without knowing you infected
heady spear
my county has barely had any cases so far but it might be spreading here
spice finch
true
vernal moth
And then you trace contacts of infected ppl
Like, if you go to a restaurant, you register that you been there
potent fossil
i just like
dont leave my fucking house
whatsoever
so i've not been sick, in fact healthiest i've been
literally ever
heady spear
either way, Sweden is doing aight and it'll be interesting to see how the economies of the countries that took drastic action were affected
vernal moth
This isn't barely any cases
And you just at the start of the curve
Dialy new cases is rising
heady spear
Stockholm, Malmö and Gothenburg barely get any new reported cases
vernal moth
Not falling like elsewhere
heady spear
which is where most (half of reported deaths are from Stockholm) reported cases come from
and as I explained earlier, we had a huge death rate in nursing homes
nearly all nursing homes got infected
this is because they're understaffed as fuck and have been for the last 10 years
not because people didn't wear masks during protests
heady spear
also, now it's starting to spread evenly throughout the country and we don't get giant localised spikes anymore, which means the healthcare system will be able to keep up even better
vernal moth
You not only want to flatten the curve, you want to avoid infections
Else ppl will die
heady spear
but everyone and their mom became an epidemiologist during the pandemic so I guess I should listen to randos on the internet instead
vernal moth
You could look at what other countries are doing
Germany is a good example, we acted a bit late but we managed to fight it back
peak dirge
Here in Georgia, we are still nowhere close to seeing closes abate. There was a decline in early May in cases, and then we shot up.
Remember, the governor decided to issue an order to reopen the state in late April, but only imposed a lockdown order in early April. So we were in lockdown for only about a month.
vernal moth
We have more recoveries than infected per day
quasi valley
and less deaths
peak dirge
In general, the US response to coronavirus has been 🤷♂️
quasi valley
which kinda points at sweden not handling it well
heady spear
Different countries will have to take different measures and they will have different outcomes. Sweden chose a strategy that could be kept up in the long run and our government has been adjusting things as we go along. The idea is to keep the death toll down while also making sure we don't end up in an economic depression because the entire country shut down
quasi valley
deaths are higher relative to other countries tho?
heady spear
They lifted the domestic travel ban today
compared to the rest of scandinavia? sure
look at belgium vs sweden
similar population sizes
peak dirge
The most "proactive" states only did about 2 months of lockdowns, then you have the states that only did one month lockdowns, and then look at South Dakota which didn't do a lockdown at all
vernal moth
So you looked this the question "whats more important, stop ppl from dying or preventing an economical depression" and you figured screw the ppl
Nice
peak dirge
America looked at the question and decided "teh ecnomomy!!!!1111!!1" was more important than people dying.
heady spear
no, very early on (long before most places went into lockdown) we let people work from home and the government started covering sick pay and sent all high school and uni students home
peak dirge
Never mind that the economy was already starting to go down the toilet before COVID-19 hit
vernal moth
Schools are slowly reopening here, uni and work is still from home for most
heady spear
our healthcare system has been struggling for the last couple of years so the immediate response was to move students into the the healthcare system to lessen the burden, which worked
this is a lot more complex than just "look at curve!! sweden bad!!"
peak dirge
In America, we've pretty much decided that coronavirus is just going to be part of the cost of living in this country.
quasi valley
can't get any worse then it already is heh
vernal moth
Which is nice in a country without universal health care 😂
heady spear
and we also want to ensure that people won't be financially ruined because of this
peak dirge
of course 😂
heady spear
(which has worked as well)
That's why I want to see how the countries hold up after the pandemic is over
vernal moth
Nobody is being financially runied here either?
quasi valley
yes because if you're dead your finances can't be ruined
peak dirge
We provide bailouts intended for small businesses to big companies while everyone gets a measly $1200 check
heady spear
Different countries my dude
vernal moth
We don't even need to fire ppl
heady spear
Different countries with very different economies
dunno why you think you can just directly compare shit lol
peak dirge
It should've been $1,200 per month to everyone and no big corporation and special interest bailouts
Temporary UBI for the duration of the crisis
vernal moth
Here only automobile industry is crying because nobody wants to buy their shitty diesel cars
But nobody wanted to buy them before corona either 😂
heady spear
the majority of our exports is in the service sector
vernal moth
And now they blame corona to get tax payer money
Thankfully gov finally understand that our automobile industry are dicks so they didn't get what they wanted for like the first time ever
quasi valley
good old csu got dumped
heady spear
But the one thing I don't agree with is the lifted travel ban. People can move freely within the country and I think that was a bad move
we should have just kept up the restrictions we had
heady spear
Right, the lifted bans was a purely political move
people haven't been happy with our government so they wanted to raise approval ratings
people wanted lifted travel bans
so they listened
spice finch
We have presidental elections this year - so our president just lifted restrictions to minimum
heady spear
which is dumb because people are retarded
peak dirge
Trump is planning to hold rallies with no social distancing, and just ask people to sign waivers that they might get coronavirus at a rally. So, you know, fun stuff.
Though I applaud the genius brain strategy of sickening and killing his potential voters, that's an own goal.
heady spear
My county has been doing great and I hope we're able to keep it up even after the lifted travel bans, but people have summer homes here
so people will be coming from the bigger cities here
for midsummer
which could be... bad.
It's always people from Stockholm. They single handedly fuck up this country 😦
peak dirge
In America, we call the state that fucks up everything Florida.
potent fossil
.g florida man
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.boredpanda.com/hilarious-florida-man-headings/ -- 60 Times Florida Man Did Something So Crazy We Had To Read...: "Oh Florida Man, what have you done this time?.. We've compiled the stupidest and the most outrageous crimes that the Floridians have ever done."
quasi valley
ah yes, the florida man
peak dirge
quasi valley
he takes on a lot of human forms
potent fossil
peak dirge
Though I would say Alabama and Texas are also very strong contenders for the title Florida currently claims
heady spear
Texas seems cool
peak dirge
Alabama is not
heady spear
isn't alabama the incest state
peak dirge
The sad part is that I was born there
heady spear
idk Houston seems like a cool place
on my list of cities I would considering moving to if it wasn't in the US
peak dirge
I read too many alternate histories. There's probably a dozen about an independent Texas.
Well, an independent Texas that survives to the present day.
peak dirge
If I were to think about an independent Texas today, it'd be a mix between Saudi Arabia and Switzerland.
heady spear
oil and chocolate?
potent fossil
peak dirge
More like oil and bank secrecy/tax haven
heady spear
well if it doesn't have the chocolate then fuck it
peak dirge
More accurately, I guess it'd be a mix between Saudi Arabia and the British Virgin Islands I guess
rotund panther
peak dirge
You have Luxembourg tho
vernal moth
The Netherlands are a bigger tax haven than Luxembourg
I forgot how exactly it works, but ppl call it the tax heaven barmuda triangle or smth
It's also called "Double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich"
But hey, the EU doesnt care
I love American media
Anti-antifacsist 😂
Those are facists, call them by their name
idle spear
bitter quest
Welcome @idle spear
amber charm
willow juniper
This is not how BLM works
..
Firing a professor just because he refused to increase all black students’ grades for no reason
void void
he tried to make one black live matter less
finite wave
Yo, this racist u don't up my grade.
finite wave
nty
void void
no it was wacist
potent fossil
im so fucking done with these stupid fucking cuntwagons
potent fossil
There are things that are woefully racist, like the father and son who FUCKING LYNCHED A JOGGER.
Not raising grades?
That's not fucking racist.
void void
quality PRs sit for MONTHS
potent fossil
That is FUCKING good teaching.
I am so goddamn done.
wdym mikro what context am i missing
its merged
oh i get it
willow juniper
slaves
potent fossil
yeah that's fucking retarded
willow juniper
Lmao
quasi valley
potent fossil
master-slave tech
willow juniper
Next time rename blacklist to not allow list
And whitelist to allow list
Politically right ✅
quasi valley
lmao not allow list
void void
like i said, quality PRs sit there for fucking MONTHS
and this gets merged right away
vmwares better
willow juniper
Also this
void void
lmao not allow list
soon terms such as allowing/disallowing are banned as well
void void
because they might hurt someone
oh we're still on this stupidity topic
like mom not allowing to buy candy 20 years ago and this brings back those hurtful memories
potent fossil
you know what, fine, im ok with removing 'slave' from the software but what do we replace it with
they chose "dm-deps"
which is terrible
quasi valley
child
potent fossil
it doesn't describe the relationship
willow juniper
What does dm-deps mean
potent fossil
exactly
something dependencies
but that still doesnt fully explain the relationship
willow juniper
Dude, doing stuffs like this is also racist to other races
potent fossil
a dependency is needed to run
willow juniper
This is so idiotic
potent fossil
it doesnt mean that it runs for the master proc...
thats what a slave does, takes delegated tasks...runs them...
deps is not a good replacement
whatever.
potent fossil
yes thats a good one
parent/child
boss/worker is used in networking
boss thread, worker thread
willow juniper
netty 🏟️
potent fossil
but what, parent/child smells like boss/worker
willow juniper
Ban parents immediately
heady spear
i think my professors should be fired for not raising my grades during pride week
quasi valley
that's the spirit!
heady spear
it's very homophobic
void void
right city
willow juniper
Shame on UCLA
potent fossil
the thing that gets me on that is that his response is extremely level headed
void void
l m a o
potent fossil
i support the BLM movement, i do indeed think people are being mistreated. i think the protesting is valid. shit needs to change.
but that?
no, that is some fuckign retarded stuff
twin lagoon
https://twitter.com/teft90/status/1271479134456352770 this one tweet sums up my entire opinion on this
Twitter
potent fossil
you're kidding me
you have got to be fucking kidding me
im logging out, going to play NMS
bye
void void
i don't want to do software dev anymore guys
void void
i'll really consider becoming a professional welder now
willow juniper
Well I guess I’ll rename the branch back to master then
quasi valley
mikro stop ruining our days wtf
void void
all those years when we were able to avoid politics in this area smh
vernal moth
I'll resort to calling my main branch Domina now
void void
there will be no more
vernal moth
This doesn't really have anything to do with BLM 🤷
willow juniper
Kind of an indirect cause
willow juniper
Tru
heady spear
I mean they might end up changing the default branch name but then they'd probably just do it for future repos
as anything else would be destructive and disruptive
quasi valley
yeah lol
willow juniper
Nope
void void
also wait until all white people with black eyes will be called racist lol
quasi valley
now let mikro find out git itself is also changing client behaviour
willow juniper
I don’t know why but to some extents of those actions
heady spear
but also words are just fucking words they don't mean shit until you assign meaning to them
willow juniper
I’d say WLM
potent fossil
nope i git init, but im worried if github changes that then they will have pull with git itself and suddenly new git init defaults.
people just need to stop.
heady spear
if people want to interpret slave/master as some fucking human slavery reference then that's on them
I am mostly sane so I don't make that association
Most people are sane
merry talon
wtf that pr got MERGED?
heady spear
But then we have virtue signalling nut jobs that feel the need to dictate how everyone else thinks
quasi valley
they could have gone for solving genered speech in german, but nope, just saying "it's wrong!!!!" and now we literally have no correct way of saying certain things other than to awkwardly restructuring sentences
merry talon
i would refuse that bullshit to the end of the earth
quasi valley
it's always people shouting about their apparent problems without offering real solutions
willow juniper
I want to create a PR to change that shit back
quasi valley
master->main is fair enough, slave->"deps" certainly isn't, same for the things we have to do in academic writing now as well
heady spear
But also if they want to change their project then let them, there's no need to bitch about it
both sides of the argument are equally annoying
merry talon
I disagree with that
heady spear
everyone is making this into a way bigger deal than it is lol
willow juniper
I don’t even know what doe deps mean
heady spear
"dependent" as opposed to "slave" isn't more confusing unless you have a pea brain
willow juniper
This is entirely, 1000% for political correctness
willow juniper
And this should be stopped
merry talon
again i disagree
willow juniper
The fact that they are merging them
merry talon
it's literally 2 different meanings
potent fossil
it is indeed more confusing
willow juniper
Is already a signal
merry talon
a slave does work for a master, a dependant depends on something else
potent fossil
dependent process != slave process
slave == child == worker
but none of these == dependent
at all
merry talon
^
heady spear
They obviously felt like it described the situation well enough
static badge
merry talon
no one on earth is rightfully offended by that terminology
quasi valley
german academics also felt like not writing gendered speech is easy without changing things as well
doesnt mean it's correct
willow juniper
Laughs in Spanish
heady spear
also a germanic language 🤷♂️
quasi valley
I'd like to do that too, I wouldnt even care if we got rid of gendered articles
heady spear
(in official and academic settings, that is)
finite wave
FrauMann
quasi valley
but we currently have stupid workarounds
heady spear
we introduced a new gender neutral pronoun to make shit easy
quasi valley
oh my god would I love that
heady spear
we had han/hon and now we have hen
vernal moth
A friend of mine is studying to become a teacher, when I read the shit she has to write I wanna vomit
SchülerInnen
vernal moth
Some profs require Schüler*Innen
quasi valley
which y know, also becomes gendered in singular =^]
merry talon
generally i think spending any amount of resources on something that no one should care about sits wrong
vernal moth
That's easy to say for us sweepy
heady spear
you don't get to dictate what others spend their "resources" on though, and the response seems quite disproportionate lol
vernal moth
We are white privileged males
merry talon
i can say to you with certainty that if i was a life long actual slave
i would still be opposed to this
heady spear
The fact is that people do care, whether or not you think they should is irrelevant
vernal moth
As a minority you would most likely look at this differently
merry talon
That's a problem that they need to seek help for
vernal moth
Don't get my wrong, I think this is stupid too, but I somewhat understand where that's coming from
merry talon
not for other people to take responsibility for
finite wave
Weirdoes, we still have gender pronouns what does it even matter
heady spear
No one is asking you to do anything
potent fossil
like i said earlier im fine with them removing the master/slave terminology but if you're going to do that, fucking replacement it with terminology that actually means the same thing
merry talon
yes, people are asking us not to use that terminology
heady spear
you're upset because someone else took action to remedy an issue that they believe exists
merry talon
yeah?
heady spear
if anyone needs help then it's you 🤷♂️
vernal moth
Like, the lack of woman in tech jobs is 100% because of how society portais the job and how society pushes woman in some kind of direction, not because of lack of skills
merry talon
I'm allowed to believe someone's actions are wrong
vernal moth
And stuff like how language works plays a part in that
heady spear
Right, but why do you care so much what others are doing with their projects? You think them changing their language is waste of resources, but what the hell is this whining? :p
vernal moth
It's just a general push
Like, why do we Harras everyone asking for 1.8 help
The more ppl we convert, the more the general "public" will shift
merry talon
I care because the choices of these people affect the community as a whole and in turn affect me
this heightens the barrier to entry at least some amount
vernal moth
Idk, all am saying is that it's hard to understand the reasons if you are not in the position of the ppl that request these things
willow juniper
Oh wait, found a way to remove racism. Simply remove ‘racism’ this word solves everything
vernal moth
I don't know how a black person lives in our society, what they have to deal with
I know how woman have to live in our society, that's already bad enough
merry talon
don't get me wrong, the foundation of my issue is the people that are 'offended' by the terminology and not the project devs
vernal moth
And even then, just by being told by examples doesn't nearly mean I understand the feelings that that causes
heady spear
viper can you just fuck off
twin lagoon
viper you are the definition of retarded
merry talon
yeah fuck off viper
vernal moth
Sweepy, the argument is that the terminology "normalizes" the issues and manifests them into our society
finite wave
Stop annoying the christian
merry talon
@vernal moth there are many other instances where you could make that statement
'killing' a process
vernal moth
I bet
Am not really defending this
Am just trying to understand where they are coming from
merry talon
i see
heady spear
I am not a fan of policing language either but if people have a real problem with the language used then I'm not going to oppose it being changed because I don't care enough to oppose it either
vernal moth
I also wouldn't be surprised if part of this is put up by alt right trolls
quasi valley
I certainly am opposed to german's changed. not because the cause is wrong, but because the execution is wrong
heady spear
at the end of the day it really doesn't fucking matter either way and in the worst case it'll be a minor inconvenience
quasi valley
which is a major inconvenience
granite salmon
It’s all a bit over the top
heady spear
Right well fundamentally (and artificially) changing a language takes a lot of work and people need to be ready to adapt for that to happen, and for it to have any effect
quasi valley
that's not even the problem
merry talon
i dont care that much about it actually being changed i just care about the fundamental societal issue of people being way the hell too sensitive
vernal moth
In our case
heady spear
Replacing two potentially "harmful" words in various programming projects is on a way smaller scale and is very doable
quasi valley
yeah again I'm fine with that, I don't have a real problem with master->main
but I'm talking on how that is not always on such a small scale
vernal moth
Idk, maybe you get sensitive if you have to deal with this shit all day every day
Again, perspective
heady spear
People are sensitive but that's not necessarily a problem 🤷♀️
merry talon
what, being a slave?
vernal moth
If me changing my main branch from master to main makes a ton of ppl feel better, why wouldn't I do that change?
heady spear
Well slavery is still an issue so that's very possible
vernal moth
Not only that, but in certain countries, the effect of slavery are still part of society
"you are black, so you worth less, go do some shitty job for me"
finite wave
Isn't prisoners just fancy slaves
vernal moth
Saw this recently, a prisoner fire squad
quasi valley
🇺🇸
potent fossil
a bulk of american car license plates are made by prisoners
thats just what they do, press the numbers
vernal moth
I actually not too sure how shit works here, I know that you can work in a prison here too, but most do it as education to get a proper job once they out
finite wave
I think some prisons here in denmark also has some projects where they have prisoners work
potent fossil
yea here it's... "listen, you're going to work"
vernal moth
But all that is optional for sure
finite wave
Probably optional i don't know much about it tbh.
vernal moth
But we don't imprison huge parts of our society either sooo
finite wave
Wah you don't put the ones walking behind u in prison?
vernal moth
A friend of mine was in prison for 2.5 years here, it was the best thing that ever did happen to him tbh
(he was in prison for pushing his landlord, old lady, down a staircase in a argument, police then also found some drugs and shit, etc)
potent fossil
lol
finite wave
Quite aggressive
finite wave
Hah, the lady would just sue him for money in the USA according to the rumors i've heard
vernal moth
He learned a job in prison, got out early with the condition to finish his aprentenship, got a nice flat and job now and life's a proper life
potent fossil
you certainly can do that ^^ here, if your offense is minor enough
vernal moth
He had a rough childhood, no parents, foster cares, etc
What's the difference between state jail and prison?
potent fossil
but if you are in max security, you are forced to work during your mandatory daily few hours outside before you return to your cell for the remaining 20 hours a day
state jail is...less hardc0re
they're still imprisonment
vernal moth
Ah ok, we don't do that, we treat all prisoners with respect, lol
heady spear
my mom started 10 fires, one in my bedroom while I was sleeping, and assaulted my dad. She got two years in prison and a year in rehab and then they gave her an apartment contract :3
at the prison they had a spa, and each inmate had a TV in their cell
they had access to video games
vernal moth
Is she better now tho?
finite wave
Your mom sounds like a wicked lady
potent fossil
go ahead sweepy
vernal moth
Bummer
merry talon
what are they gonna do
finite wave
You will probably get beaten up bad
merry talon
throw you in jail?
void void
you'll get buttfucked
vernal moth
Who gets the money the prisoners work for?
Wait, you have private prisons, don't you
kindred storm
private corporations
finite wave
I think it pays for their "stay"
vernal moth
Pls don't tell me....
finite wave
I think that's considered inhumane and not allowed anymore pimple.
finite wave
nty
vernal moth
Still nothing compared to Syria
kindred storm
it's still allowed
vernal moth
I had the chance to speak to someone, asylum seeker, who was imprisoned in Syria
potent fossil
china has 'black' jails (name not related to current events)
heady spear
Jan, in the US they don't have human rights and shit
vernal moth
10 floors under the ground
potent fossil
.g china black jail
vernal moth
Thats literal hell
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_jails -- Black jails - Wikipedia: "Black jails are a network of extralegal detention centers established by Chinese security forces and private security companies across the People's..."
finite wave
Sigh
vernal moth
Yeah china is bad
I feel bad for ppl in Hong Kong
They try so hard to not be part of the shit hole that is china
And nobody helps them, lol
finite wave
Who will help them? If they do China will just mess u up
merry talon
the older I get the more I realize that everything sucks
vernal moth
Cause hur dur economy is more important than enforcing human rights
heady spear
I feel bad for the uyghurs, we all know what's going on but no one does anything about it
finite wave
What is an uyghur
heady spear
we all just sit and watch as they kidnap, torture and "reeducate" these people
finite wave
.g uyghur
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs -- Uyghurs - Wikipedia: "The Uyghurs alternately Uygurs, Uighurs or Uigurs, are a Turkic minority ethnic group originating from and culturally affiliated with the general..."
heady spear
a muslim minority group in China
vernal moth
China is doing to the uygurs what Hitler did to the Jews
finite wave
They giving them nice showers?
potent fossil
thats not bc ppl dont wanna help HK
potent fossil
but bc ppl dont want china's reaction
vernal moth
Our society is just way too dependent of china
Like, all our meds and shit come from China
finite wave
I thought u said we didn't need china just now
finite wave
No worries, i got what you meant after
vernal moth
Anyways, am getting way to fed up
The world is a shitty place and all humans are assholes
void void
and end of the story
so uh
y'all how do you motivate yourself back to work
i feel burned out
finite wave
Take a long vacation
void void
besides that
void void
that's not an option unless i want to move back to parents smh
finite wave
Well, that's true pimple
heady spear
The world is a shitty place and all humans are assholes
o the privilege of being an observer in all of this
void void
fuck it i'll just open onlyfans account, and hope that someone pays my rent 
finite wave
U gotta not be ugly to do that 
void void
potent fossil
smells like toxic in here
sharp sentinel
What do people think of ApexHosting?
finite wave
No clue what it is
sharp sentinel
They're a hosting company - trying to gauge the opinion of them
I'm not looking to use them, and TrustPilot has not been a reliable indicator for the public perception of something in the past IME 😛
finite wave
i think they might be okay for someone who don't want proper backend access prolly.
No clue, since i don't know them.
potent fossil
apex is one of the better shared hosts but if you were to ask me, my answer is
shared host 🚮
sharp sentinel
MCProHosting's TrustPilot is super positive but people seem to have a very negative opinion of them
And yeah I'm not a shared hosting fan - so this is purely out of shared hosts is it a better one
And that basically answers it, thanks
potent fossil
it is the lesser evil yes
finite wave
void void
vernal moth
y'all how do you motivate yourself back to work
@void void what's motivation?
quasi valley
what's work?
sharp sentinel
do y'all not work or something
finite wave
nop
quasi valley
hella wrong but hey, they're the ones with the knowledge
void void
used to "study" in uni but shit got really boring
sharp sentinel
I worked 3 days a week and did a lot of contracting during University, and I know multiple people who had full time jobs during it - it just takes more effort I guess
void void
i know a person who studied for 2 degrees at the same time
sharp sentinel
Like a double degree?
finite wave
Apparently some idiots thought it would be a good idea to tell the public martians was invading the USA in the early days of radios
sharp sentinel
Double degrees are super common here
quasi valley
I have like a mini job, but studying 2 subjects to full extend does take its time
not doing 2 degrees tho
void void
yeah double degree
sharp sentinel
Wait 2 subjects a semester is the norm in the US?
void void
because taking 2nd one after finishing one requires payment here, lol
sharp sentinel
Ngl the more I learn about the US tertiary education system the more it confuses me lol
Like the fact that the first year is basically just another year of highschool
In Australia we generally have 3 year degrees, which as far as I've been told contain the same amount of relevant info as the US 4 year degrees, because we don't have that year of irrelevant stuff. 4 year degrees are super common here too, but those are honours degrees
Each semester is 4 subjects, which is considered "full time university"
But most people work part time at least while studying full time, and the people who really hate sleep work full time or do more than part time work
quasi valley
so need 3 years bachelor, 2 years masters degree, hopefully taking a semester off the bachelors to finish earlier
and then probably another 2 years for a third subject, which I might or might not squeeze into the masters (if I dont need/have a job there)
vernal moth
I can top that, I did everything Kenny did, whole also doing a apprenticeship
quasi valley
pff 2 subjects without the füba is for noobs
frosty scarab
Uni sucks in the US. It’s too boring and bullshit.
potent fossil
who the fuck takes 2 courses/sem in the US and calls that full load
5 courses is full load here.
you can even take 6
if you dont you are not full load
quasi valley
like Informatics+English as subjects with their respective courses
frosty scarab
5-6 courses per semester is the average in the US for a 4 year engineering/cs degree from my experience
potent fossil
mhm
potent fossil
so yeah, most of them are math or cs
that's 2 subjects
if that's what we're saying then ok sure
whatever
i dont see how that helps define load at all
but go off
quasi valley
wat
potent fossil
you cannot derive any useful information whatsoever out of someone saying how many subjects they're taking in a semester, you need to know how many courses and how many credit hours each course is; im specifically talking about whoever it was up there that asked "is it the norm to take 2 subjects/sem in the US, here we take 4!!!" like that means nothing
quasi valley
oh you were responding to me4
potent fossil
at all, whatsoever
someone could be taking 1 subject a semester, but 20 credit hours (6 courses) while someone else takes 4 subjects and only 12 credit hours (3 each)
does this "4 subject student" somehow work harder
lol
no
quasi valley
yea, had 2 courses in first semester Info, then 4, but both semesters with the same work load in Info
indeed
frosty scarab
Comparing how hard you work to other people is hilarious in its own right.
quasi valley
the topic was only brought up because that's literally what it was about
how many hours of free time there are with studying "normally"
with having a full time, part time, or no job at all
frosty scarab
Yeah I’m not trying to @you
quasi valley
then I just didn't get the topic shift lol
frosty scarab
My b
quasi valley
have more gems of my group partner in a course, that's how he wrote individual bits to outputs https://i.imgur.com/0SxpXSf.png
void void
Hi does anyone have https://www.reddit.com/r/admincraft/comments/h8sbin/request_paper_exploit_plugin/ plugin?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Request - Paper exploit plugin : admincraft - 3 comments, 1 point - johnngnky, 38m ago
quasi valley
no
potent fossil
no, we don't support exploits
we patch them out of the game so you dont deal with them
we don't add them back in
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Request - Paper exploit plugin : admincraft - 4 comments, 0 points - johnngnky, 40m ago
potent fossil
:)
void void
Thanks for the info
spice finch
Use Spigot if you want them 
potent fossil
No
Spigot will not add them in either, I feel like we need to be painfully clear about this
Exploits are removed. They are exploits
kindred storm
spigot won't add them, but spigot may not always patch all of them
void void
I guess, but that won't stop someone from making a plugin
kindred storm
so we can at least recommend spigot for dupe-happy people when the patch is in paper but not spigot
potent fossil
I don't understand why you want to add exploits back into the game.
quasi valley
you might as well add a command that just sets the current amount of the item in hand to max
spice finch
Spigot has closed source? 🤔
potent fossil
However, the people who WILL more than likely add it back in for you? Those are the folks over at MCMarket.
spice finch
I found 1 repo with DMCA on github
void void
I guess, thanks
potent fossil
Try not to get ass fucked by the scammers over there.
I won't say good luck because your request is weird.
potent fossil
The other dude on reddit who is getting downvoted has a good suggestion too, if it's absolutely necessary.
I guess.
void void
I'm not that experienced
potent fossil
he said he'd help you
void void
And I upvoted them. So it means 2 people have downvoted
potent fossil
yup because we don't think it's particularly smart to be removing exploit patches
they're there for good reason
void void
u/Ictoan42?
potent fossil
yes
void void
I upvoted that
finite wave
@spice finch https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT
potent fossil
yeah, it's gonna get downvoted in general because removing exploit patches is not a particularly smart idea
spice finch
oh they have their own git server
void void
I mean yes I see why they're patched but I want to make my server as cheat-friendly as possible.
potent fossil
just let ppl use hacks
potent fossil
you realize a lot of exploits can be used to gain access to your server?
as in, they can fuck you up
void void
Yes I am aware
potent fossil
you can go to bed with a good server and wake up to it destroyed
void void
I meant only dupes etc.
potent fossil
ok well, whatever. either talk to the dude getting downvoted or go to mcmarket, make your case, pay up, dont get scammed, and then glhf
neither paper nor spigot will help
finite wave
Shit, i looked at that penpal community, seems sketchy simple
potent fossil
what penpal community
finite wave
Yes
finite wave
I'm looking at your reddit profile 😛
waxen panther
finite wave
Seems to be pedo heaven
potent fossil
yeeeah
afaik they have auto mod now that warns of predators when the user posting is < 18
but a lot of ppl are using it faithfully
i guess
latent valve
kindred aurora
west prism
frozen jacinth
==: ItemMeta
meta-type: POTION
potion-type: swiftness```
how would i make it so it's a speed 2 potion that lasts 45 seconds
worn ember
is that serialized data?
potent fossil
yeah thats what bukkit does
worn ember
well you could just serialize a potion with speed 2 and serialize it and see what comes out 
yes english very good
frozen jacinth
how does one serialize
potent fossil
worn ember
is this for a plugin you're using?
shrewd steppe
frozen jacinth
yeah i'm adding potions into a bedwars minigame
in the default config the potions dont have customized durations or power
quasi valley
looks an awful lot like not 1.15
potent fossil
that's an awfully shitty way to represent data that is meant to be edited
quasi valley
wut does md still serialize potion meta main types
worn ember
^^
potent fossil
whoever devved that needs to go back to school
frozen jacinth
yeah i blame the dev
austere ivy
my guess is that you aren’t supposed to edit it
worn ember
lmfao
night mist
frozen jacinth
bruh that must be why it's in the config
potent fossil
yeah, if it's a data file and you're not meant to be editing it then stop
frozen jacinth
it's meant to be edited
quasi valley
oof
worn ember
you'd have to know how the serialization is done to be able to edit that properly and honestly i dont think even most devs know
frozen jacinth
epic. are there no guides?
potent fossil
thats just default configurationserializable for itemmeta
i personally am not going to go look at the code for you
if anyone does, nice
otherwise, no there's no guide because that is not meant to be edited
if it were, it'd be in a regular config file
i'd just go talk to the dev if i were you
worn ember
yell at the plugin creator to make it configurable
potent fossil
he or she will have more info that we do