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topaz mortar
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@still smelt there is a packet for that. Lmgtfy

void void
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would the packet stop light being calculated

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prob not

topaz mortar
potent fossil
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morning

void void
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mornin pimple

left swift
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Yo simp

potent fossil
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im pimp now

void void
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*a

left swift
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You'll always be a Simp to me

potent fossil
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im not sure if i should be proud or angry

oak slate
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hi everyone i am developing a plugin for holograms and i added support for Papi but it doesn't work could someone help me?

void void
potent fossil
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what "doesn't work"

oak slate
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the placeholders don't work

potent fossil
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we arent mind readers

oak slate
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....

potent fossil
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if you dont want help that's perfectly fine with me too

still cape
still cape
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...

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i love it

left swift
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You turn mob griefing to true

still cape
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then turn it off where? on the worlds i don't want it on?

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i don't want it on the main world just one new hard core world

loud quest
left swift
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Use a plugin that disallows it per world then

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Idk if gamerules are per world or server wide but I'm assuming serverwide

still cape
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hmm well i can turn it off in server properties i think but that's server-wide

limber knotBOT
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gamerules are per world

red wraith
still cape
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and i wanted it turned off on the main world hmm yeah i guess i'll have to look for a plugin... i already told the player she's welcome to go make her wool farm in the hardcore world where it's off but... she's too lazy apparently lol

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waiting to get fixed on the main world where i want it off, the thing is it was off before, it's only broken since i got multiverse and set it per world there with the setting command

limber knotBOT
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that command is the same as the normal /gamerule command when run in the world in question

still cape
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i guess i can go the server-properties again and make it server-wide, it would make the hardcore mode world easier but whatever

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oh ok

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i will try setting it that way instead of through multiverse, that's what seems to have broken it, but i will play around with options, thanks

olive marlin
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Isn't compile deprecated?

blazing nebula
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switching to gradle or using acf?

potent fossil
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yes, use implementation

olive marlin
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It got split into api and implementation.

left swift
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A true saint

potent fossil
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but its still compileOnly for shadowing

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compile still works, it's just not favored anymore

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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not sure when they plan to remove it

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you do that

void void
waxen panther
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takes like half a second to change it to api or implementation lol

minor badge
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no, it's not compileOnly for shadowing, that's still the new scopes, @potent fossil

potent fossil
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orly

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which one

minor badge
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api & implementation

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compileOnly is indeed runtime only

potent fossil
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oh wait

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ya u rite

limber knotBOT
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it's MIT which can be included in (A)GPLv3 projects

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yes, which is why AGPLv3 is one of the best licenses there is

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runs

waxen panther
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ah yes

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the female profile picture, new to discord tag and begging for something

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a true classic

potent fossil
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lmao

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im fucking done

limber knotBOT
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isn't win 10 edition free? thonk

waxen panther
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nah

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only if you bought java

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ages ago

limber knotBOT
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tbh asking for keys while not even Mojang itself has them for people that bought java is a bit wtf lol

cunning raft
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yeah viper

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i got that automatically tho

limber knotBOT
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I suggest to give feedback along the line of "it's shit" as any other github design update

waxen panther
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irc users and change smh

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can't handle it

limber knotBOT
modest nacelle
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potent fossil
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why the fuck are you making utf8 commands

waxen panther
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just try a utf8 only letter in a command alias and see lol

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wouldn't be hard to check

still cape
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anyone know why my new worlds are showing up on the dynmap on web but not in worlds.txt? i want to remove the ends and the end to my original world is removed (i managed to do that early on) but i can't figure out how to do it now for the ends of the two new worlds i added... i can't find anything searching online

wispy epoch
waxen panther
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god i hate nginx configuration

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I'll never understand it

fallen oracle
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What part are you confused on?

waxen panther
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I have my site on a server that I own and it's fine, I set it up a few months ago. Now I have an express server that's completely separate and i want it to listen on a subdomain

fallen oracle
waxen panther
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I think it's because of whatever lets encrypt did to the config

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i'll take a look

worthy zenith
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lets encrypt i have found to be messy if you dont have everything setup right before hand

fallen oracle
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I just use cloudflare

vernal moth
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I just use traefik, it handles LE for me

waxen panther
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actually

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cloudflare it is

fallen oracle
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😛

worthy zenith
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how does cloudflare handle this?

minor badge
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i just use nginx with proper configuration 😎

waxen panther
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yeah well

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I'd rather bash my head against a wall than continue trying to get my nginx right PepeLaugh

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they're pretty much the same thing anyway

fallen oracle
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Griff, you can just use cloudflare for ssl certs

worthy zenith
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ah, huh didnt realize they also have free certs

modest gorge
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are there any plugins that let players keep inventories/xp between bungee'd servers?

worthy zenith
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MySQlPlayerBridge i think?

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glare is stanky

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also cloudflare's certs arent available for wildcarded domains

fallen oracle
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Wdym

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I have one Cloudflare cert that covers all my subdomains.

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Isn't that a wildcard domain?

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Ahh

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I guess that's why it works in my use case.

potent fossil
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welp

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fucked my knee up trying to sit cross legged

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i guess im officially old

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fuck

minor badge
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holy shit youre ancient

potent fossil
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fuck off

minor badge
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<3

limber knotBOT
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mregrill calling people boomer

kindred storm
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Is it a good idea to have certificates expire sooner, or later?

ashen cliff
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Just make them last 30 years.

potent fossil
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idc the length because i autorenew

fallen oracle
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Just saw that

heady spear
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...

ashen cliff
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Did you see the LegalEagle video?

limber knotBOT
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It's better for make them expire sooner so you don't need a giant Certification Revocation List

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And if something goes wrong and you catch it you only have a short period where tools/people that don't check the CRL can be exploited

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The ideal is for them to last as long as you expect things to keep working for someone without internet access and no longer

fallen oracle
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Apparently the FL was baked at the photo-op yesterday.

potent fossil
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yea yall hear about the random piles of bricks that keep conveniently showing up just in time for scheduled protests?

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:^)

fallen oracle
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This ^

celest coyote
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Gaaasp are you implying that corrupt police officers are inciting violence 🇺🇸

potent fossil
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not necessarily police officers

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but yes, somebody is

wicked bloom
turbid plaza
fallen oracle
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You see they upped the charges on the police officers?

minor badge
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good

potent fossil
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what the fuck youtube

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i just got recommended this fucking shit and im fucked up

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she died a month after that YOUTUBE YOU CANT FUCKING JUST RUIN MY DAY . LIKE THIS

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IM DONE

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Fuck that's sad. Her video was about how she was gonna get some new lungs.

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Then she never fucking got them and died.

latent valve
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😔

peak dirge
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It's a good thing Keith Ellison is working on the case of Derrick Chavin. But that won't be enough.

fallen oracle
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Mhmm

peak dirge
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A lot of cops need to get charged with murder. And we need to substantially reform qualified immunity.

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*charged for you IRC lads

fallen oracle
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Wonder how the virus is doing these days.

potent fossil
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i am not seeing a lot of articles about it recently...i dont watch tv [at all] though so idk what's going on in that world

fallen oracle
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It seems to be confirmed that all 4 officers have now been charged.

potent fossil
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however, it's alive and well in other countries

limber knotBOT
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I think you were right before the edit ;)

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rides that edge

fallen oracle
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71, dear lord.

potent fossil
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Should've been fired a long while ago

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Sometimes use of force is required and I understand that but I hold the opinion that the very first case of inappropriate use of force is grounds for termination. Not desk duty. Not a slap on the wrist. Not retraining.

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Termination.

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Fight me on it.

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Coffee time

void void
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i'm tired, don't feel like fighting

fallen oracle
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What disturbs me is that this is the first case usage without prevoking.

main dagger
sudden latch
tired heath
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It looks like one is crashing (sometimes) when I start/restart the other one

peak dirge
fallen oracle
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Hmm

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... Very doubtful

potent fossil
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im so hungry atm but idk what i want

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.8ball is viper a retard

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... You know the answer better than I

potent fossil
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yea, i know

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he is

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... As I see it, yes

potent fossil
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told you

fallen oracle
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Simple, 8ball what food you should order.

potent fossil
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it can only answer yes/no

fallen oracle
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Correct

potent fossil
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.8ball wings?

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... As I see it, yes

fallen oracle
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WOOT

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Wings it is.

potent fossil
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but that's fucking expensive

fallen oracle
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Okay but that 8ball told you to.

potent fossil
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.8ball verify wings is a good idea

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... My sources say no

potent fossil
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thanks

fallen oracle
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:O

potent fossil
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i only have taco bell though

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they're aight...

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but not...true

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... Without a doubt

potent fossil
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ok 8ball

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tacobell it is

fallen oracle
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Wait

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You didn't verify it

potent fossil
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.8ball verify taco bell is a good idea

limber knotBOT
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shakes the magic 8 ball... Outlook good

potent fossil
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alright

fallen oracle
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Okay you're clear for takeoff.

potent fossil
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wtf they let you put fritos on the tacos

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im not sure if im interested or disgusted

fallen oracle
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They are only $1 I think

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They had $1 tacos awhile back that were 😍

potent fossil
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yeah they have those

fallen oracle
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College money go brr brr

potent fossil
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$1.95

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each

fallen oracle
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Not bad

potent fossil
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also crunchy tacos are the only true tacos

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soft tacos are burritos that are not fully wrapped

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fucking fight me on it

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right

fallen oracle
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I would love to get taco bell but I'm about to throw a brisket on the smoker

potent fossil
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ah fuck if i had some good meat to bbq up... i'd do that ez

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i need to go shopping

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today is not that day

fallen oracle
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Mhmm

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🥵

potent fossil
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oh fuck

fallen oracle
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Oooo

potent fossil
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i want a chalupa...

minor badge
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@potent fossil wanna go out saturday night xoxo ;)

fallen oracle
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He's mine.

potent fossil
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@minor badge with your stanky ass?

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talk 2 me after you've showered

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stanky

minor badge
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nothing like yours

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i JUST showered

potent fossil
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shower again i can smell you across the atlantic

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fallen oracle
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Ughhh

potent fossil
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doordash doesnt have the fucking boxes

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im not leaving my house

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so

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fuck

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im pissed

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wait oh shit

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tacobell is partnered with grubhub

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might have to give doordash the hand

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potent fossil
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what the FUCK it's not loading

fallen oracle
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Why not just drive there

potent fossil
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bc i dont want to leave my house

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im on like

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a 3 week streak of not even going outside

fallen oracle
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Facts.

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Tho I did go outside to do yard work this morning.

minor badge
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3 or 30

potent fossil
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idk anymore

minor badge
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no wonder, i can smell the amount of seconds since your last second with functioning water

potent fossil
minor badge
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crave me simple-chan

potent fossil
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bitch i am getting tacos

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tacos > proxi

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be patient

prime quartz
minor badge
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bruh

potent fossil
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my priorities = tacos > proxi > *

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so

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fuk u

minor badge
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no wonder i had to break up with you

potent fossil
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it was for the best

fallen oracle
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Damn, you are a higher priority than his wife.

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You should feel honored.

runic oar
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Please tell me how to install TerraForged-mod on paper (forge in general). I tried to install the standard installer (forge-1.15.2-31.2.0-installer) and I did not succeed.

fallen oracle
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Paper isn't forge.

runic oar
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yes, mod

potent fossil
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paper does not support mods good sir

fallen oracle
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No mods

runic oar
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oh

potent fossil
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never has never will

minor badge
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if you want mods, use sponge

runic oar
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no good

fallen oracle
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No mods

minor badge
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glare, wanna go out on saturday night xoxo

fallen oracle
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Which Saturday? Cause I'm in quaratine

potent fossil
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excuse me

minor badge
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you're what now

fallen oracle
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Quarantine

minor badge
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why

fallen oracle
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Because my parents make me

minor badge
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o-kay

fallen oracle
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I've been in or around my house since mid March

minor badge
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heyyy viper ;))

fallen oracle
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Damn

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She a player

minor badge
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lmao

fallen oracle
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I didn't say no, I just asked which Saturday, smh.

void void
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about a year from now

minor badge
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how abt 3 weeks glare

fallen oracle
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🤔

limber knotBOT
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meiosis

fallen oracle
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What

minor badge
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yuck

limber knotBOT
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imagine if this discord had 2 TheViperShow

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it would be so annoying

minor badge
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itd be at least 100x as bad

limber knotBOT
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now give me the formula to calculate how bad a discord is based on TheViperShow(s)

minor badge
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count ur nuts and square it till you get a number which fits

limber knotBOT
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oeuf

naive quest
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Can someone recommend any skyblock main plugin (paid or free)?

potent fossil
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wow, doordash tacked on a huge service fee, and then the cart submission failed

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went to grubhub and each item was in the range of $0.70 to $1.50 cheaper than the prices listed on doordash...

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added 1 more item than was in my doordash cart + their delivery fee + a tip to their driver and it's still $6 less than what doordash would've charged me

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what the fuck even

limber knotBOT
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you know when I went to Greece, i we made a dinner for 6 for like 14€

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it's one of the cheapest countries evet

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ever*

potent fossil
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can get a filling meal for a whole family if you shop wisely for just a few dollars in the philippines

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like 350 or so pesos...about 7 bucks

fallen oracle
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Might have to check out GrubHub then.

potent fossil
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estimated delivery time is 2:40pm and he just got the restaurant

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can the mad man do it

fallen oracle
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Damn

wraith pond
potent fossil
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idk mate guess

vagrant niche
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He's from mexico city

potent fossil
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no shit, really?

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that's wild

void void
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launch?

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simple are you going to be launched into sun finally?

potent fossil
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nah mikro

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launched into mars

tired heath
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If you could choose between a vps with deticated CPU a 4 cores, either from Xenon Gold 6230 or AMD EPYC 7702 – witch one would you choose for Paper

ashen cliff
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Venus.

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Would have to go with the Xeon Gold, higher boost (but you will never even see it).

tired heath
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You mean not seeing the boost

ashen cliff
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Yeah.

tired heath
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Can they turn it off, I only know desktop intels what ignore govenors

ashen cliff
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Should be 3Ghz at "minimum", but most providers nuke boost or don't touch the power limits, so it just runs at stock.

tired heath
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Actualy the ad says max 3,9 Ghz
But they also switched to AMD now, you can not order the intel gen any more but I could keep it
With the downside, SAS and no SSD

ashen cliff
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🤔

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Theoretically, the 6230 will boost to 3Ghz when all cores are loaded (non AVX), EPYC should do 3.35Ghz, so I see why they would switch.

tired heath
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They just do Generation updates all the time, for the provider is a easy calculation, the EPYC supports 64 Cores per CPU (CPU is rather cheap), the Intel 20, so you can book a machine much harder with more cust. what is another thing. But also maybe the Intel boards run with 2 sockets, gives you 40 cores vs 64

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What is a factor, since the customers will also share the rest of the hardware, like network and RAID

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I just don't know 😄

limber knotBOT
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hi Streamfrost

vestal jasper
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Hi TheViperShow

void void
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Hi cats

ashen cliff
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Both CPUs are new, so they got burned on the Xeons.
Anyway more cores =/= more better.
Cache starving, memory starving, I/O starving.
But yeah, EPYC all the way.

tired heath
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Yeah, thats what I mean, I fear that the overbook the EPCY workstations much more, even if the hardware is newer

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Mostly the missing SSD raid is a thing when I keep the intel

ashen cliff
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🤔

tired heath
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!dev/sda:
Timing O_DIRECT cached reads: 1398 MB in 2.00 seconds = 697.84 MB/sec
SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 1748 MB in 3.00 seconds = 582.66 MB/sec

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1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1,1 GB, 1,0 GiB) copied, 2,48532 s, 432 MB/s

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I mean for SAS not so bad

daring tinsel
ashen cliff
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How many drives?

tired heath
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I don't know

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hoster secret

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Raid 10

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is all i know

ashen cliff
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Since your test is low enough to be raid cache or drive cache.

tired heath
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Maybe not the best way to test it

dd if=/dev/zero of=tempfile bs=1M count=10024 conv=fdatasync,notrunc
10024+0 records in
10024+0 records out
10510925824 bytes (11 GB, 9,8 GiB) copied, 18,7079 s, 562 MB/s

ashen cliff
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Try random or urandom instead of zero.

tired heath
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wait

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urandom is maxing out one core

ashen cliff
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Expected.

tired heath
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dd if=/dev/urandom of=tempfile bs=1M count=10024 conv=fdatasync,notrunc
10024+0 records in
10024+0 records out
10510925824 bytes (11 GB, 9,8 GiB) copied, 75,7087 s, 139 MB/s

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Would be interessing what a SSD Raid would deliver to compare

ashen cliff
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[root@Endymion tmp]# dd if=/dev/zero of=tempfile bs=1M count=10024 conv=fdatasync,notrunc
10024+0 records in
10024+0 records out
10510925824 bytes (11 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 4.94304 s, 2.1 GB/s
tired heath
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so in about 4 times faster with /dev/zero

ashen cliff
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[root@Endymion mnt]# dd if=/dev/zero of=tempfile bs=1M count=10024 conv=fdatasync,notrunc
10024+0 records in
10024+0 records out
10510925824 bytes (11 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 1.95295 s, 5.4 GB/s
tired heath
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Okay I still have the EPIC and will test it later, 30 days time to return it

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Would be interessting what it will deliver

cosmic fractal
tired heath
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Otherwise I could keep the Intel with SAS for the FPS Minecraft games and rund citybuild and Mysql on the SSD

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Would also be an option

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Since the FPS do not need much I/O

ashen cliff
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Most of MySQL sits in memory, so the impact outside of tests shouldn't be to big.

tired heath
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Well I guess it depends on the memory allocated to MySql and how much write actions will run on it

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I run most plugins with mysql connenction, I really hate that YML or SQLITE disease some java dev are addicted to

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Even if I will earn hate now 😄

kindred storm
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YML and SqLite are very different strategies for storing data

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For the record I also prefer MySQL

tired heath
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I don't like both, if I could use MySql except it

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Is a one time read conf or data file

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like on start up

kindred storm
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what.. does that mean?

tired heath
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Well data you would only read on start up into memory or on some changes

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not periodically

quartz peak
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There a reason why to run your server off a ssd? hdd have a longer lifespan compared to ssd's.

tired heath
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like configs, best example

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Sure but that is a problem of my hoster 😄

kindred storm
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I don't know anyone who uses SQL for configuration

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except NamelessMC, but that's website software, not a plugin

ashen cliff
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XML

tired heath
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JSON!

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😄

ashen cliff
tired heath
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oh yes

deep void
kindred storm
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json for configs is ehh

tired heath
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Well xml is ehh as well, in that case

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I really would stick to yml
even a big asso. array

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better than xml

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I don't like xml

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Not sure why

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I just don't like it

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Maybe because of all the overhead

livid shore
void void
obsidian crater
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spend more than $5 on a processor for your Minecraft server.

raven grotto
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DevTechGames i can upgrade to the i3 for 0$. I paid 50$ for cpu+mobo+ram and i will sell my actual setup the same price.

stuck lava
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but why? celeron 700 is no good? 😦

void void
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i think TRYAA got banned

stuck lava
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yep

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well he was kinda asking for it

obsidian crater
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feels so bad

void void
stuck lava
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it's good to be bad? no?

obsidian crater
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spend $50 on a raspberry pi 4 8GB. it will probably run MC better than a i3 550

void void
obsidian crater
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and save electric

limber knotBOT
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yeah

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or, you know, just rent a server Kappa

obsidian crater
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buy a server for $5 a month

void void
obsidian crater
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ill sell you a spot on my Xeon E-2236 dedi 😛

tropic flame
void void
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there are servers for 3.50 a month 512MB AND 10GB SSD

stuck lava
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TechGames turbo on all cores? 😮

obsidian crater
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gl running 1.15.2 on 512MB of ram

raven grotto
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I don't want to pay monthly. i don't sell anything in this server so i don't make money with it. i only do this for some of my friends

obsidian crater
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@stuck lava of course

stuck lava
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nice 😮

obsidian crater
pulsar wigeon
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meh, proxy doesn't need much tbh

limber knotBOT
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let everyone of your friends give you 5 bucks and get a nice server with the 50 and have fun

void void
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you could set up a hamchi network between your friends

obsidian crater
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he talking about a proxy?

limber knotBOT
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if they don't have 5 bucks a month then I dunno, lol

pulsar wigeon
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imagine having 9 friends

obsidian crater
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I dont think so

limber knotBOT
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hamachi

void void
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but 5 friends max

limber knotBOT
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what is this, 2004?

stuck lava
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2003

void void
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2004 + 16

limber knotBOT
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just use zerotier, lmao

void void
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ok

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lemmy see

obsidian crater
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It's MMXX

limber knotBOT
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open source, peer to peer, cross platform VPN software

obsidian crater
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hamachi is grabage

raven grotto
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Thanks for your advices. I got to go

void void
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seems interesting

obsidian crater
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pOrT fOrWaRd

void void
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UPGRADES

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NAT

obsidian crater
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its only for me and some friends

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only 13 plugins

waxen panther
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yes

stuck lava
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y

waxen panther
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just use aikars flags

obsidian crater
#

my host doesnt let me use aikar flags

#

Motorola is mean

void void
#

nice nokia brick

#

are you young enough that you don't remember what the brands are

stuck lava
#

aye, good old times?

#

can I host 1.15 400 players on this:

#

🤔

#

they can "dial in"

void void
#

no thats a land phone

stuck lava
#

😐

tired heath
#

Wondering, do you know is there a build in solution to activate player collision (hard) so no matter what speed you would not pass through each other?

stuck lava
#

for 1.7?

tired heath
#

1.15.2

stuck lava
#

who even uses that? o.0

#

isn't everyone on 1.7?

#

well 1.7.2

#

but in all seriousness no, we're still on 1.8 sadly

tired heath
#

am no 😄

stuck lava
#

I have some ideas what is going on in post 1.8 world but not really all that much

tired heath
#

I use and develop for 1,15.2 is 1.7 sarcasm?

stuck lava
#

👌

#

we use 1.8 and develop own stuff and patch good old (well not that good) tacospigot lol

tired heath
#

Man I just develop a real Quake Arena clone, so good old times, sure why not

#

just not in minecraft :S:D:

stuck lava
#

isn't there quake 3 remake or something think that's the only thing I bought on steam

#

quake live?

#

too bad I don't have time to play it

#

anymore

#

lol

tired heath
#

Lol quake live is basically Quake 3 with servers and extra features what is dead since it moved to steam for 9,90

limber knotBOT
#

isn't quake live f2p? thonk

stuck lava
#

btw are good old CTF Q3 servers still around? 🙂

#

quake3 kinda is... quake live was.. then it wasn't anymore

void void
#

does anybody know why notch left mojang?

stuck lava
#

lol

#

cause he got bored

#

of bugfixing

limber knotBOT
#

moneyz

#

oh wow, it really costs money now, eww

stuck lava
#

yep

limber knotBOT
#

I remember when you could play it for free on the website in the browser, lol

void void
#

yeah

#

1.5.2

#

i used to use that

limber knotBOT
#

I guess I'll just continue playing UT2k4, lol

void void
#

the game he created, created a large community

stuck lava
#

well quake3 is still around and servers too

tired heath
#

Na the story is diffrent, Quake live had full servers, many loved it. It was free to play with premium abo just for some features like a right to vote. Than steam took over and removed the abo. But you had to buy it for 9,90, also the removed the server network and match search

stuck lava
#

quake live actually lost a lot of players once it became paid thing

tired heath
#

at that point quake life was dead

stuck lava
#

ye

void void
#

jeb still there

tired heath
#

I moved back to open arena but is also dated meanwhile

stuck lava
#

Deny well here's the deal... we're all gonna die and if u can cash out and stop doing the things you don't like doing... then I kinda understand Notch

tired heath
#

so I rebuild it in Minecraft

#

and is will be close

stuck lava
#

or maybe it was just he didn't wanna deal with everything else that came with MC

#

who knos

#

knows*

limber knotBOT
#

didn't hypixel used to have quake craft?

tired heath
#

really close, just finished the jump pad plugin today and longes yard map

limber knotBOT
#

then they removed the full one to only offer instagib, lol

tired heath
#

you will love it

#

you mean that meme on hypixel

#

😄

void void
#

i think notch enjoyed working on the game

stuck lava
#

so why did he decide to opt out of mc

void void
#

it must have been all the legal problems etc

stuck lava
#

lol

#

yea

#

I guess

void void
#

EULA and crap

stuck lava
#

or like... pedos

#

and toxic players

#

and ... yea

tired heath
#

Quake 3 engine is open source, only the textures and maps are protected

void void
#

personally i did not see notch selling the game

tired heath
#

so how should there be any lic. probs

void void
#

but money can change people

tired heath
limber knotBOT
#

interesting

void void
#

the community found ways to create and explore he created the foundation

#

sad to see him leave

tired heath
#

That's why Open Arean exists, basically a Quake 3 engine with remade texture and map packs

limber knotBOT
tired heath
#

Check out Open Arena

limber knotBOT
#

oh, they forked ioq3 thonk

tired heath
#

But i meand those stuff happend more than a decade ago

#

😄

void void
#

jeb is working as the lead creative designer

#

so far i like the changes he makes

limber knotBOT
void void
#

swimming nether updates etc much needed updates

tired heath
#

I mean I just selected a random quake repo

#

I'm not sure where it offically got released back than

limber knotBOT
#

well you posted the official one, lol

tired heath
#

did I 😄

#

nice

potent fossil
#

ok

#

im in taco bell induced food coma

#

😫

tired heath
#

🍴 weewoo_red

fallen oracle
#

What all did you get

waxen panther
#

potentially

#

tacos

potent fossil
#

some tacos and a chalupa

void void
#

tacos sounds tasty

potent fossil
#

do you use paper @void void

void void
#

but all i can do is talk about them

#

i cant eat them

potent fossil
#

what

void void
#

i dont host minecraft servers

potent fossil
#

ok

void void
#

i use whatever works

potent fossil
#

ok

void void
#

but i found out about paper in 2016 and thought it was cool so used that

potent fossil
#

ok

void void
#

ok

tired heath
#

Yeah anyways time to get a shower and do some code before bed time

solid mountain
drowsy canyon
#

Hi guys, i cant find docs about this:
Usage: /paper [heap | entity | reload | version | debug | dumpwaiting | chunkinfo | syncloadinfo | fixlight]

Does anyone have a link?

golden gust
#

no real docs on that, the commands in general are self explanitory to a degree

#

heap is for creating heapdumps

#

the others are mostly util/dumping info/admin

potent fossil
#

rule of thumb with that one, use them only if told to by support

#

((if you dont know what other reason to use em))

#

i sure love having a 250gb disk for mac and constantly only having like

#

40 gigs available

#

for no discernible reason whatsoever

#

at all

kindred storm
#

hah, I have a 120gb disk

#

and 19 available

golden gust
#

having free disk space

#

kek

kindred storm
#

i'm counting down

golden gust
#

actually, am doing good for now

kindred storm
#

i have to constantly delete stuff

#

it's actually pretty not fun

#

but at least it keeps things clean

golden gust
#

god, am turning into mini

potent fossil
#

yeah, another not fun thing is that this fucking $2000 computer can't handle basic tasks like daisydisk scanning the hard drive

#

i just had to force kill it because the thing almost crashed

fallen oracle
#

What's that

potent fossil
#

idk why i bought this, it's definitely not for 'Pros' as the name suggests

#

lmaoo

#

daisydisk is a program for Macs to recover disk space because apparently without a constant fucking clean up you would have no space

kindred storm
#

why would you use that

golden gust
#

catalina?

potent fossil
#

i have a 250gb drive and 110gb of it is used and there's LITERALLY no reason why that is explained in the gui

#

yes

golden gust
#

Could be that it's going fucking crazy and recusively scanning across that god damned retarded volumes thing

kindred storm
#

I recommend grand perspective for disk space

potent fossil
#

Other 127.22 GB

#

unclickable to see what the FUCK is taking up that space

kindred storm
#

that's why I told you

#

grand perspective

golden gust
#

See, I generally just use ncd, but, basically, I had this fuuuuuun issue with /Volumes

kindred storm
#

check the Library folder

potent fossil
#

yeah, daisydisk is supposed to do the same thing

slender jay
#

i will never understand the purpose of a mac

golden gust
#

macOS is amazing

kindred storm
#

hmm, I don't even have "Other" in my GUI

golden gust
#

except for when apple goes moronic with it

#

Which, tbqh, is sometimes far too often

potent fossil
#

i love macos, the fucking hardware however is pitiful

kindred storm
#

I have "Other Users" and "System"

golden gust
#

Other is mostly gonna show up when you do stuff like install homebrew, etc

kindred storm
#

I have homebrew

potent fossil
#

i do too

slender jay
#

the os itself may be amazing (idk never tried it) but the hardware it comes with and the fact that its from apple

#

is a massive turn off for me

potent fossil
#

ok

kindred storm
#

i would get a linux computer if i had to buy a pc

#

i just happen to have a mac, not my decision

waxen panther
#

gm

kindred storm
#

much better than windows though

potent fossil
slender jay
#

hey broccolai

kindred storm
#

oh isn't that the premium program which tells you about your disk

potent fossil
#

private -> 55.2gb no fucking idea what's in there
and my ~/Library is 51.7gb

#

fucking ridiculous

kindred storm
#

look inside it

potent fossil
#

i've cleaned up my Library folder as much as possible though

#

but the private folder?? idk

golden gust
#

private is where /etc and /var live

potent fossil
#

apparently app store installations what the fuck

kindred storm
#

yeah it's in the root of your machine

potent fossil
#

all i've gotten thru there is xcode which is fucking required just to code half the time

kindred storm
#

/private/

#

why don't you open it up and see?

potent fossil
#

i have?.... do you think im a retard

#

the folders are cryptically named

golden gust
#

should we answer that or?

potent fossil
#

go for it

#

tell me what they are

fallen oracle
#

No he meant the other part

golden gust
#

folders is generally temp shit

#

make sure that no updates are installing, and, afaik, you shoooould just be able to delete that junk

kindred storm
#

backups though

heady spear
#

It’s 3am and I’m making enchiladas

#

My life is totally under control

fallen oracle
#

Can you uh

#

Share photos?

waxen panther
#

realises time

#

how did i just spend 2 hours on discord reee

#

i had so much i wanted to do tonight

fallen oracle
#

I thought you just said good morning

heady spear
#

I also ate an entire cheesecake before because I was bored

drowsy canyon
#

rule of thumb with that one, use them only if told to by support
@potent fossil ty ❤️

heady spear
#

I’m going to get fat at some point

fallen oracle
#

Probabaly not considering how often you talk about going to the gym

golden gust
#

we all know he only goes there to sit in a cubical

heady spear
#

I was there for 2.5h yesterday and it was nice

#

Am like the gym, it’s the only thing keeping me sane

potent fossil
#

City only goes to the gym to watch boys in tight shorts or sweatpants

#

You think he works out

#

That's laughable

heady spear
#

There r some cute boys there ngl

#

Maybe I can lure them in with my food

#

What’s the pros and cons of packet vs. circuit switching

potent fossil
#

what the fuck

#

all of these 46gb are fucking xcode installers

#

old ones

fallen oracle
#

Really?

heady spear
#

Bruh Xcode takes so much space

#

Fucking annoying

fallen oracle
#

You should try running CCleaner every once in awhile.

potent fossil
#

im on mac

fallen oracle
#

Sorry, MacCCleaner

#

CCleanerIOS

potent fossil
#

i s2g

#

daisydisk wont let me delete them

fallen oracle
#

Damn McDonald sounding good right now

potent fossil
#

required by macos by fucking asshole

fallen oracle
#

Why not try uninstalling your current version of xcode and see if it removes the rest

#

Then reinstall

potent fossil
#

yeah, i have

#

these have been sitting in /private/var/folders since October 2019

#

according to the last modified date

#

and mac is 'supposed to clean those up'

#

but it fucking hasn't so

#

whatever

fallen oracle
#

Shall we go ahead and uninstall it all for you?

potent fossil
#

i swear bruh

#

so tired of it lol

kindred storm
#

I'm really not sure why you're so mad about this

potent fossil
#

what

fallen oracle
#

Open the Applications folder

Drag the Xcode icon to the Trash

Clean out the Trash bin

#

Let's start with that

#

Backup your projects first

potent fossil
#

i need xcode...

fallen oracle
#

You'll reinstall it in the end

kindred storm
#

it's not hard to find these folders, and you didn't run out of space yet anyway

potent fossil
#

and it's not the version im using that is the problem, there 7 OLD installers

#

@kindred storm where exactly did i say it was difficult to find the folders?

#

i dont remember asking you anyway, im not asking anyone in fact, im just ranting

kindred storm
#

ok alright

fallen oracle
#

sudo /Developer/Library/uninstall-devtools --mode=all

#

Don't run that hey

#

Yet

#

But that'll remove all versions

#

But idk how to tell it to not remove your current one

golden gust
#

it's just old installer crud

#

literally nothing else needs doing than rm'ing that junk

potent fossil
#

daisydisk wouldn't let me, idk what the consequences will be if i do just go and rm it

#

i dont need a $2000 paperweight

golden gust
#

it's just appstore temp files

potent fossil
#

alright fuck it

#

nice just doubled my fucking disk space

#

let's hope it boots again, am not rebooting yet

fallen oracle
#

Damn, LA can not catch a break. Apparently they just had an earthquake.

potent fossil
#

LA is always having earthquakes

cosmic raft
#

fucking christ this is annoying

fallen oracle
#

5.5

cosmic raft
#

one of my monitors keeps going black, making windows think it is disconencted, then coming back

#

anyone know what would cause that?

pulsar wigeon
#

graphics driver usually

jagged egret
#

make sure cables are plugged all the way in, too, sometimes they can come loose and bumping them will do that

#

probably already checked that though

cosmic raft
#

not loose

worn ember
#

Drivers

cosmic raft
#

nvidia driver is up to date afaict

jagged egret
#

might try cleaning the driver off and doing a clean install

worn ember
#

Either that or faulty hardware

worthy zenith
#

i have a monitor that does that, i think it has something to do with monitor power as reducing the brightness of my monitor made it happen less

cosmic raft
#

interesting

worn ember
#

Does it work on other os?

jagged egret
#

does it happen with other monitors or just the one

cosmic raft
#

Just one

upper flicker
#

I had a vaguely similar issue as a result of a displayport daisy chain

jagged egret
#

yeah that's probably a monitor/not-computer-hardware issue then, I'd imagine

cosmic raft
#

This is DP, but not daisychain

upper flicker
#

probably not related then

worn ember
#

Does it have HDMI?

cosmic raft
#

It does

worn ember
#

Try with that if you can. See if it makes any difference

jagged egret
#

can you try the monitor with another device?

worn ember
#

Otherwise yeet it through the window

cosmic raft
#

I have another DP cable handy.. let me swap that first

#

before I dig for HDMI

worn ember
#

Well usually cables work or they dont

cosmic raft
#

we will see

potent fossil
#

lol, i told my fiance that i feel bleh and she suggested that my period is coming.

waxen panther
#

is she wrong?

potent fossil
#

nope, i think she's spot on

cosmic raft
#

good so far

#

not flickering like it was

#

maybe that DP cable got damaged

potent fossil
#

was it dp<->dp or was it active on one end etc? i did have flickering and bad color with an active displayport cable once, sent it back and got a new one which fixed the issue

#

but other than that idk

#

but yay for fixed electronics

cosmic raft
#

what?

#

two DP cables, one from each monitor into GPU

potent fossil
#

so not active, got it

cosmic raft
#

sure

#

yeah looks like that cable might have been the issue

tired heath
#

Does anyone know, how can I fix the type of player.getWorld().playSound(player.getLocation(), Sound.ENTITY_PILLAGER_CELEBRATE, 9.0f, 2.0f);
Now it always uses a random sound of the possible sounds for ENTITY_PILLAGER_CELEBRATE
Might be an extra param, but a docu on it is hard to find

jagged egret
#

use play named sound effect

#

i don't think you can specify which with #playSound

#

nvm, it's not play named sound it's still #playSound you just use a String

tired heath
#

hmm

#

Na I don't find any version what allows it

#

Might not be possible

jagged egret
#

ah yep that's true. But if you modify sounds.json in your resource pack you can

tired heath
#

I c, thx in this case I have to search a fallback sound

jagged egret
#

thought you could specify a number for some reason

tired heath
#

for players without rs pack

potent fossil
#

i lold

jagged egret
#

@tired heath what you could do is check if the player has the resource pack (PlayerResourcePackStatusEvent) and if it is, send entity.pillager.celebrate1 or whatever you make it, and if not just use entity.pillager.celebrate

tired heath
#

I just wanted to create that open arena (quake) like jump gesture with the pillager sound, but with that random honk it sounds more like super mario 64 😄

#

Yeah, thats true, I could check for the pack

#

good idea

jagged egret
#

haha I didn't realize there's a honk

tired heath
#

it is 😄

inland wave
waxen panther
#

interesting name

potent fossil
#

they must be referring to challenger deep

jagged egret
#

bold words for someone named after a vegetable

potent fossil
#

that's all i can think of

waxen panther
#

damn

#

you really gunna do me like that

#

and come at my species

slender jay
#

🥦

waxen panther
tired heath
#

I switched no to another one as fallback, thanks again iso2013

jagged egret
#

no problemo

#

what is that emoji

waxen panther
jagged egret
#

are resource packs an API

cunning raft
#

what do you want to do

jagged egret
#

i don't want to do anything I'm just asking if they're considered an API

cunning raft
#

like the packs themself?

jagged egret
#

minecraft wiki lists them as an API... but I think that makes no sense because they involve literally no programming

cunning raft
#

ohh not in bukkit

jagged egret
#

datapacks? maybe. Resource packs? no way

cunning raft
#

yeah they break version to version most of the time

vast wren
cunning raft
#

i think in 1.15 they added an auto converter in the client

jagged egret
#

The resource pack system is an API which....
https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Resource_pack

Minecraft Wiki

The resource pack system is an API which provides a way for players to customize textures, models, music, sounds, languages, the end poem, splashes, and fonts, without any code modification.

cunning raft
#

i mean

#

they're not 100% wrong

#

you could argue it's an api

jagged egret
#

where's the programming though

cunning raft
#

it's just semantics

pulsar wigeon
#

trying to argue that mc functions isn't programming is like trying to argue that scratch isn't programming

jagged egret
#

mc functions are programming

#

mc functions are not part of resource packs

pulsar wigeon
#

oh, data packs aren't included there

#

interesting

cunning raft
#

yeah datapacks are per world not client side like bedrock

jagged egret
#

yea that's why I'm trying to figure out where the programming is haha

pulsar wigeon
#

er

cunning raft
#

like i said iso, it's semantics

pulsar wigeon
#

yea weird idk then

cunning raft
#

it's not an API in the programming sense

#

but allows the user to interface with the rendering engine

pulsar wigeon
#

no it's just shitty wording by whoever wrote that

#

lmao wat

#

no the user doesn't interface with the rendering engine

jagged egret
#

it dates back to 2013

cunning raft
#

wiz you know what i mean goddamnit

jagged egret
#

imma edit it, wish me luck

#

bc it even says in the same sentence

#

The resource pack system is an API which provides a way for players to customize textures, models, music, sounds, languages, the end poem, splashes, and fonts, without any code modification.
not to mention it doesn't fulfill the description it links on Wikipedia

lapis marlin
void void
#

🤨

waxen panther
#

🤨

potent fossil
#

@jagged egret you should make a talk page entry explaining your point further too

livid seal
slim nymph
#

light thread super overloaded, yet still able to gen chunks honoring frustum, i can move into ungenned chunks and not trip watchdog

jagged egret
#

What if someone made a programming language where all variables had to be a name of a potato or potato dish

slim nymph
#

teleports still suck cause all that works still queued 😦

#

ok yeah gotta figure out how to cancel work, ran out of memory

#

my changes arent causing any new memory use. just overloaded light work

#

prob because normally server would of died due to watchdog due to what i did to it lol

jagged egret
#

I wonder if you could implement a Minecraft server in a language like that

#

It'd probably be easier to read than spigot's mappings

#

(being sarcastic ofc)

slim nymph
#

and man once i can get light multi threaded, be even nicer

vagrant niche
#

I believe in you Aykar

potent fossil
slim nymph
#

nope

potent fossil
#

hello laxative @vagrant niche

slim nymph
#

it uses the server thread pool but it only uses 1 thread at a time

#

so it 'bounces'

vagrant niche
#

Ew

slim nymph
#

so i moved it to its own thread so its easier to clear up whats light, but also to improve cache locality

#

as im worried that thread hopping is still risky

#

in older versions i think yeah

#

but irrelevant for 1.14+

#

did sponge do something for 1.15?

#

we had async light a few years ago, it got dropped though due to bugs

#

yeah new threaded systems worse than old main thread system

#

its like single handedly the source of all our chunk problems

fallen oracle
#

Sponge is still on 1.12.2 😛

slim nymph
#

we can multi thread this as long as we set up separate instances per thread, and ensure a chunk always goes to the same thread

jagged egret
#

I need to go to bed I'm sitting here trying to figure out what the project 'light' is only to realize after admittedly way too long that it's the literal light engine in game lol

slim nymph
#

lol

waxen panther
#

took me 5 hours to fix my nginx issue and it was just an A record

#

im going to bed now too

slim nymph
#

mojang over engineered it so much that all the over engineering is what makes it so expensive now

#

a lot of is shared to the chunk system of the level graph

#

knowing lights single threaded, we can actually move that mutable int to be an instance field instead of pooled

short yarrow
#

big words!

void void
#

anyone here good with worldedit?

#

i have a very strange issue lol

slim nymph
#

no

void void
#

there is a we discord >..

waxen panther
#

it's called EngineHub

#

idk if i can link it here

#

just google it

void void
#

id assume the invite is just EngineHub lol

waxen panther
#

prolly

short yarrow
#

so I just tried light mode for discord

#

it should be illegal

#

it's so blinding

merry talon
#

pretty sure they made it terrible on purpose

#

its not bad because light themes are bad, its because their light theme is horrendus

#

like non-accessible levels of contract

short yarrow
#

worst shit I've ever seen

#

people who use light theme might as well be burning their eyeballs

fallen oracle
#

I'm enjoying the AMOLED mode.

void void
#

blinding or not, it just doesnt look good

#

i don't know what it is exactly but it's just bad

potent fossil
#

why does prplz not have a purple name

#

fix it

short yarrow
#

lombok! haven't used that in a bit

#

I love making my own getter and setters!

void void
#

everyone seems to hate it so i thought i'd change my nickname to this as a joke

potent fossil
#

honestly, i use it for the builders

#

god they're so easy

#

ugh

#

pl

#

z

#

yes

void void
#

new name

potent fossil
#

okay yeah. i can hate that

void void
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im talking to a pimple

potent fossil
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yes

short yarrow
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eclipse was good

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until I found out about intellij

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is netbeans any good

potent fossil
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LMAO

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ask md_5

limber knotBOT
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netbeans is... better than notepad?

cosmic raft
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@slim nymph on the bright side, light works better now

limber knotBOT
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The native netbeans project format is maven so if you're doing maven things it works really way at tracking that

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really well*

lapis marlin
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netbeans lol

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just get intellij community

fallen oracle
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Interesting. MGK has Megan Fox in his new music video.

lapis marlin
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sorry to ask here but does anyone know how i can fix my issue in #paper-help?

fallen oracle
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If you're sorry to ask here, why did you?

lapis marlin
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😳

potent fossil
void void
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Im on Spigot, just stumbled accross Paper Spigot

potent fossil
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what business do you have coming in here with a smug look like that on your face

void void
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How much faster would you say it is % wise

potent fossil
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im pimple, the town idiot

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that is hard to quantify

void void
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@potent fossil woah

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Smugs

potent fossil
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I mean shit it's probably a good like 50-60% faster if you're using Aikar's flags (+ the full optimization guide) and you've got a great machine.

pale river
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Lots of performance improvements

short yarrow
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We love optimization here!

void void
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Love optimization and efficiency here

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All about clean code that offers the best run time

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Ill check it out. That sounds exciting pimple

slim nymph
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id say if Paper is an 11 out of 10 (cause we are!), Spigot is a 4? Vanilla a 0 maybe 1 lol

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we just have so many optimizations

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we work with mojang to try to help them optimize vanilla

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a lot of our feedback is currently shaping 1.16's final performance work 😛

short yarrow
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Paper to the moon!

void void
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@slim nymph Ill see how it is

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If i like it perhaps ill contribute to the code :P

potent fossil
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oh wow

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he is an developer

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praise him

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bow before thy god

fallen oracle
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O.o

tepid crag
vestal jasper
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WEEEEEEE God I love seagram's

tepid crag
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uhhh-

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are you drunk my dude??

slim nymph
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not allowed to brag about seagrams unless you got some to share to me

vestal jasper
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No they're 3.2% by volume I'd need to drink a case of them

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Aikar I just got a 12 pack

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Take your pick

slim nymph
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am under curfew i couldnt go out even ifi wanted to get booze 😭

tepid crag
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F

vestal jasper
tepid crag
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There's no curfew for me and I literally live on the border of Salt Lake

vestal jasper
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Got it from work so fuck the curfew tbh

tepid crag
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^

slim nymph
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yeah our state/city is one of the super fucked up super brutality ones