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potent fossil
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@wide chasm

worn ember
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@wide chasm fix or riot

wide chasm
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Thanks

worn ember
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❤️

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no riot this time

void void
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what happened?

kindred storm
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advert

worn ember
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pleb posting discords

void void
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oh A248 got his role removed

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shame

waxen panther
worn ember
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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☑ Rektleaf

heady spear
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now we just need to have a248 removed

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o option A

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cool

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 is option + a

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for me it is

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lol

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no

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it's option + a

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option + p is π

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option + j is √

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option + f is ƒ

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lame

waxen panther
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lame

void void
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mine must be broken then

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̉̉ thats option j

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đ thats option f

heady spear
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u just have a shitty keyboard layout

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I bet u don't have å

void void
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i have standard uk layout

heady spear
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åäö

void void
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no extra fancy legends for diff languages for me

heady spear
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also a dedicated button for §

golden gust
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£¢∞§§§§§§§§

heady spear
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(which is prolly why that's the minecraft color code lol)

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the button to the left of 1 is §

golden gust
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alt-6

void void
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¾

golden gust
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on a mac doe

heady spear
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or well § and °

golden gust
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Also, ofc

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™ alt-2

void void
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¹²³€½¾{[]}

heady spear
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void void
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wtf are these @łe¶ŧ←↓→øþßðđŋħł«»¢“”nµ─·

lament patio
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¡²³¤€¼½¾‘’¥×áßðøøæ©ñµçáäëïöüáéíóúàèìòùãõâêîôû all I've got

void void
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i could use 2 of them once in a blue moon

heady spear
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wtf no å

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å is important

lament patio
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Yeah, no a with ball hat for me

heady spear
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how would u write Åmål then

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also "å" is a smaller river in Swedish

void void
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i probably wouldn't write it tbh

heady spear
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På en ö i Sverige finns en å

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Swedish is such a nice language

void void
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did your write anything viper

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wtf

heady spear
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it's just ‎

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I use that to force line breaks when splitting messages in Discord

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when sending long announcements and shit

void void
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hang on

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nope

heady spear
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then you can start a message with a line break

void void
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how

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I don't have apple keyboard, i don't even know what option key is

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alt key

heady spear
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it is really quite useful

lament patio
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IRC users hate this simple trick!

heady spear
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wdym

void void
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yes pls

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wait what

heady spear
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uh I just send an empty character

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it's a unicode character lol

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potent fossil
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i realize that

heady spear
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Discord light mode is especially bad

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idk how they made it that disgusting

lament patio
heady spear
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that's way better

potent fossil
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hmm

spice finch
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damn

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it hurts eyes so hard

void void
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just ctrl shift i delete that

lament patio
void void
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or wps office if you care about looks

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my profit >>>> microsoft profit

twin lagoon
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microsoft office >

zealous delta
limber knotBOT
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profit

void void
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just say that you know how to use it

limber knotBOT
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I mean if you like the UI of Office 2002 then go for it. Office Online is also free

void void
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learn it later

twin lagoon
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i don't know a lot about excel either

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i've used it a few times here and there

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but it hasn't been useful to me so far

heady spear
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Just remembers if you were never birth then life would not adventure so take care and wishful thinking for blessings in disguises 🙂

limber knotBOT
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if you're doing anything with data it's useful

twin lagoon
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i do things with data

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except it's automated

limber knotBOT
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fortunately I don't so far but it could also be to my detriment

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well, to analyze or assess the data

twin lagoon
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i can do that too

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.g kibana

limber knotBOT
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great

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twin lagoon
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epic

limber knotBOT
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idk what elasticsearch data is but I'm saying it basically does stuff with any data

twin lagoon
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numbers is an excel but extremely simplified

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noty

void void
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i mean its just 1 error

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not so bad

heady spear
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Life is like sun, too little and death and too much and death maybe by cancer

potent fossil
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🚨 @heady spear, this is the police. Please stop being edgy. 🚨

heady spear
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I’m just writing inspirational quote

potent fossil
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well

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stop

heady spear
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For the people’s to get inspired for happiness and seeking of purpose

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Why are you trying to put halt to my missions

potent fossil
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Because it hurts.

opal badge
heady spear
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Smh I’ll have to post random facts about India then

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India is country with multitude of foods. Try many and you will get fed, maybe you will find favorite among many!

void void
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city were those doughtnuts tainted or smthin

heady spear
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No I’m findd Ed

void void
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lmao

worn ember
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why dont you work?

harsh garden
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ikr

worn ember
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kinda pointless to ask why it doesnt work instead of saying what doesnt work

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that doesnt magically make it work lol

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debug

potent fossil
worn ember
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...

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u suk cuz me code no werk and u no fix

potent fossil
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@heady spear i need help with minimessage

tidal sky
potent fossil
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String text = "<hover:show_text:'<green>Click to Open</green>'><click:run_command:/mycommand>><yellow>Test</click></hover> <hover:show_text:'<green>Open Settings</green>'><click:run_command:/anothercommand><gray>[<yellow>Settings<gray>]</click></hover>";

No worketh. I need two separate parts that have click/hover, but this just fucks up and shows me json lol

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too must nesting?

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also cc @vernal moth

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also do i need to close every tag like xml or what

left swift
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.flags

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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@potent fossil closing of that's is optional

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If you don't close, they continue till the end of the message

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Or till they get nested

potent fossil
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so am i doing the hover/click stuff right wrapping em? bc it spits out json at me

vernal moth
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You need "

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Not '

potent fossil
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bruh

vernal moth
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That's the only thing I can see right now

potent fossil
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so I gotta start doing nasty escaping

vernal moth
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Maybe I should allow ' there ^^

potent fossil
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yes

vernal moth
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Open an issue pls

potent fossil
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you should

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lord

vernal moth
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I don't remember why I didn't

potent fossil
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i have to do all the work around here

vernal moth
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Am working too

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Shopping with a women

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That's work too

void void
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hard work

potent fossil
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mini lookin cute

quartz peak
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Yo is google good for a domain? Someone in minecraft discord said google dns is blocked

potent fossil
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wat

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i have domains on google

quartz peak
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ok i was confused like how can it be blocked?

vernal moth
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If you can, I would use CloudFlare for domains

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Sadly they don't have all tlds tho

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Ty simple

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MiniMessage needs a bunch of love, I know, I don't really use it right now so I don't notice shit like that

void void
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hm lets see if ghidras improved since the last time i tried it

quartz peak
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What domain site do most people use for minecraft? was debating on using google since it would be easier to manage. Yet again Mini said they dont have tlds. PS dont know what that is,

peak dirge
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He was talking about Cloudflare Registrar

limber knotBOT
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I use porkbun

peak dirge
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But you've got choices. Namecheap and GoDaddy seem to be the more popular around here

potent fossil
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can you register on CF now?

limber knotBOT
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I used namecheap, switched to porkbun

peak dirge
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last I checked, no

potent fossil
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last i checked only transfer in

kindred storm
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cloudflare no markups

limber knotBOT
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pretty much the cheapest I've found, other than cloudflare, but I ain't giving them my domains lol

peak dirge
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Google Domains should be fine though

quartz peak
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ill look around for a bit before making the final decision

peak dirge
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any registrar will work to be fair

hidden moon
quartz peak
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wonder what would be better .com or .net 🤔

potent fossil
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com

quartz peak
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probably dont matter 🤔

limber knotBOT
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doesn't matter, but I like .com cuz I can ctrl+enter websites

quartz peak
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fair enough

void void
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don't think most users would care tbh

waxen panther
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What’s it for?

peak dirge
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BTW: I need a new dedicated server for the Velocity project due to our old friend Sonatype Nexus.

golden gust
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lol

quartz peak
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so i dont have to give out my ip

peak dirge
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Will a 32GB E3-1230v2 with a 960GB SSD work

cunning raft
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sonatype rolf

golden gust
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they'll still get your IP

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That's the entire nature of networking

cunning raft
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domains are just shortcuts for ips

void void
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i think the point is don't make people memorise IPs

golden gust
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beyond that, really doesn't matter what you go for

void void
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hey guys, join my server, its on 245.217.422.577

golden gust
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people often just shop around for vanity names or just go for whatever is cheaper

peak dirge
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going to shove on nginx, Discourse, Sonatype Nexus, and Jenkins...

golden gust
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o'rite hollywood

limber knotBOT
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wut with sonatype?

golden gust
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I mean, I'd imagine that that would be fine

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Just, gotta watch out for jenkins too

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😄

quartz peak
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that too wanted to make it easier to type but if having a domain dont matter since they can still find it, then gonna reconsider

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investing into a vpn would be smarter then thonk

limber knotBOT
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what

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your hosting a server, how do you want people to not find it

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s/your/you're

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Correction, <RoboMWM> you're hosting a server, how do you want people to not find it

twin lagoon
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hahaaa

golden gust
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only "alternative" would be to use a tunnel and just pipe connections through like a VPS or something

twin lagoon
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mcprohosting got fucked again

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lmao

quartz peak
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lol fair point

potent fossil
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fucking datagrip is telling me the foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed tf

golden gust
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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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☑ REKTification

quartz peak
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tf happened to them? kekwhyper

limber knotBOT
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ya, bungeecord on a different server if that's really an issue

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or velocity or waterfall or whatever

twin lagoon
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@quartz peak they got compromised yesterday

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domain fucked etc

regal shuttle
twin lagoon
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they were slowly recovering etc

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now their twitter got jacked

quartz peak
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oh lord

twin lagoon
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verified mark transferred

quartz peak
limber knotBOT
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using dumcord

quartz peak
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so not only was their domain jacked their accounts were fucked.... what else people data was stolen too?

twin lagoon
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data wasn't stolen

cunning raft
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the fact you can transfer verified badges is fucking stupid

twin lagoon
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just twitter & domains fucked

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i know right

cunning raft
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i literally have no idea what twitter was thinking

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what is the use case

limber knotBOT
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twitter and thinking

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does that ever go together

vagrant niche
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How tf do you get your shit hakd

blazing nebula
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where did it get transferred to tho

quartz peak
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tell that to youtube people accounts have been hijacked and been taking them months to get them back kekwhyper

vagrant niche
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Smd

cunning raft
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no idea

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thought he was the mcph dev

blazing nebula
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they may be impersonating them

quartz peak
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real question is wtf would someone do this and how fucking desperate are they

limber knotBOT
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any of y'all use a robotic vacuum

cunning raft
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looks like MC80599545 is hijacked as well

void void
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i'm not supporting the robot revolution yet

quartz peak
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wait a fucking minute thats a fucking discord name

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bruh anyone can barrage attack that account

rare herald
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huh

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that's not very pro of mcprohosting

cunning raft
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imagine not having 2fa PepeLaugh

quartz peak
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hackers account i mean

merry talon
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this is pointless

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everything will be reverted

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lol

cunning raft
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thanks for your input

merry talon
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the one who spent actual money on it loses

quartz peak
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at the same time the jackass who did it is desperate

merry talon
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problem fixes itself

void void
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i mean its more probably about getting a reputation

rocky flame
split zephyr
quartz peak
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wish google fiber was in my area would be nice but Verizon comcast and at&t where blocking them

worn ember
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or more about destroying one

austere ivy
worn ember
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sure makes me not want to use mcprohosting 🙂 not that i would anyway

austere ivy
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if only :')

worn ember
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is that an inspect element?

pulsar wigeon
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yes

austere ivy
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absolutely

worn ember
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shame

potent fossil
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is it safe to block in onDisable to make sure i can get some heavy saving done

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like server wont just be like lol bye

void void
cunning raft
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like server wont just be like lol bye
pretty sure it allows blocking

potent fossil
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great news!

cunning raft
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watchdog is disabled at that point iirc

potent fossil
spiral garden
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big F right here

potent fossil
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LMAO

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is that kangarko's shit

vernal moth
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Nothing of value was lost

austere ivy
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wow

outer perch
cunning raft
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oh thought that was the falcon

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and was like 👀

tired heath
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What is the best way to fix the light on a world like a lobby. Since I updated the version shadows seem to be bugged on some spots and wont update even if i change blocks

wide chasm
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ChatControl is definitely kangarko

austere ivy
spiral garden
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chatcontrol is kangarko (aka spigotcourses guy)

cunning raft
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Imagine not just using essentialschat blobcool

austere ivy
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OH, I was thinking it was a bit harsh because the guy forgot to add a toggle for bStats. Turns out he specifically removed the toggle.

vernal moth
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Where is that comment Brian?

austere ivy
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That's pretty scummy.

spiral garden
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looking at the code, he just straight up ripped out the enabled boolean

cunning raft
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Where is that comment Brian?
in the OP mini

austere ivy
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first post in the issue, yeah.

spiral garden
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vs

pulsar wigeon
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🇾 🇮 🇰 🇪 🇸

spiral garden
vernal moth
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Oh I thought it was from kango

cunning raft
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holy fuck chatcontrol is by one of those guys who's pretentious

austere ivy
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Where's that at DoNotSpamPls?

cunning raft
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what the fuck

pulsar wigeon
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yea kangarko is a well known scumbag

cunning raft
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nobody cares about your scam

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why does md_5 allow this

spiral garden
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@austere ivy chatcontrol's metrics class (free version)

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compared to the original one

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md_5 doesn't care unless it's factions 😃

wide chasm
slender jay
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oh not this dude and his face again

pulsar wigeon
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dude did he have anything else on bstats

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or was chatcontrol the only one

spiral garden
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if he had, it's gone gone gone

pulsar wigeon
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cuz none of his stuff is there anymore lmao

cunning raft
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he's got alot of plugins

slender jay
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that image is leaking pretentious dickhead energy

pulsar wigeon
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yeaaaa

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ah well, nothing of value lost here

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moving on peepoJuice

austere ivy
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Where'd you find ChatControl's metric class?

wide chasm
austere ivy
spiral garden
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decompile the plugin

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it's not open source

austere ivy
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oh okay

slender jay
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most punchable face in the universe

vagrant niche
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He literally added a backdoor to a spigot fork and posted it on spigot

pulsar wigeon
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did you even look at the repo brian

vagrant niche
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Dunno why he still here

austere ivy
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I looked at the free one, I can't find the metrics class. I might just be blind tho

peak dirge
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Oh, kangarko

cunning raft
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we'll see if that goes anywhere

peak dirge
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The most pretentious fuck, next to Songoda

spiral garden
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how does he pretend to not own it

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his face is literally ON THE AD

vagrant niche
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Not against the rules

spiral garden
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lol ^ also that

cunning raft
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yeah

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but he also says "This plugin has been featured on..."

austere ivy
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ooh man that's scummy yeah.

cunning raft
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as if it's like not his

vagrant niche
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Not against the rules

cunning raft
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

spiral garden
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premium plugins on spigotmc were a mistake

unreal quarry
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didn't know rules to not be a douche were needed

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runs away

jagged egret
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is there a way to read input char by char in java or does it have to wait until enter is pressed

peak dirge
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I guess I can link on the NuVotifier page "HEY, GUYS - PAPER AND VELOCITY ARE BETTER THAN THE SHIT MD_5 FLINGS"

spiral garden
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against the rules :^)

slim nymph
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i tried to help him years ago to stop being so scammy in his approach

wide chasm
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Premium plugins aren't the problem, it's their authors

slim nymph
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now he emails me all the time

peak dirge
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Oh, then that bob7l guy or whatever the fuck will flip his shit

wide chasm
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bobcat?

peak dirge
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yeah

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that guy

wide chasm
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Bobcat is eh interesting

spiral garden
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if there's money involved, scumbags are guaranteed to come up

cunning raft
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their advert is at top of page

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god i hope spigot resource mods are competent

austere ivy
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how is he still allowed to post on Spigot then? that doesn't seem in line ._.

wide chasm
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Because Spigot doesn't seem to enforce all rules on everyone as strictly

austere ivy
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does spigot take a cut of all plugin sales?

wide chasm
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Nope

cunning raft
peak dirge
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Spigot rule enforcement seems to be focused largely on how much they suck md_5's dick

spiral garden
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^

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i kind of like mc-market's approach, at least they ban scammers

slender jay
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damn its so true it hurts

cunning raft
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You may not use resource updates, the resource itself (eg console or in-game messages), or any other location for any advertisement whatsoever.
LMAO this isn't enforced at all

spiral garden
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and actually enforce their rules

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wait doesn't paperlib violate that rule

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lol

cunning raft
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mc-market allows shitty tuinity/paper forks tho which is PepeLaugh

peak dirge
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downside of MC-Market, is that they have very low ethical standards

austere ivy
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does tuinity already have forks?!

jagged egret
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is it possible to read a char from the console when a user presses a letter

minor badge
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of course, brian

jagged egret
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i.e. before pressing enter

peak dirge
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of course

wide chasm
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Afaik not iso

peak dirge
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no Velocity forks being sold for money yet tho lol

minor badge
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it's not very hard to rebase an existing paper fork on top of tuinity

austere ivy
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wasn't tuinity concrete (and a meme) like 3 months ago

void void
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gtg guys i hate this srever 🙂

wide chasm
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But I don't often scan input by hand, so maybe there is

slender jay
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ImNotBrittishToday at 9:33 PM
gtg guys i hate this srever 🙂

spiral garden
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some guy literally stole leymooo's antibot bungee fork code, repackaged it and sold it on mcmarket

slender jay
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lol

spiral garden
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i think they banned him though

peak dirge
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I could probably get mad money for selling Mineteria's Paper 1.12 fork

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but won't

austere ivy
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what makes that fork so special?

peak dirge
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backported some of the good 1.13+ technical improvements to 1.12.2

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plus lots of our own improvements

spiral garden
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is that open source?

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because I literally did that myself, albeit a lot worse

peak dirge
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was, until we close-sourced it (we have some "sensitive" patches)

potent fossil
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selling

is it open source

spiral garden
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fair enough

austere ivy
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mcmmo is open source, goes for what, $7.99 on spigot?

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what is it?

peak dirge
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there's probably a market for a 1.12.2 fork with our backports

wide chasm
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Isn't mcmmo's price just as a donation?

spiral garden
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there definitely is

austere ivy
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anyway people still buy it, both because they want to support nossr (cause he's great) and also they don't want to touch yuckky code

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maybe..? I don't know

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seems like a lot of people just "donate" then though

spiral garden
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servers here are complaining about redstone lag, entity lag, player lag, you name it

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3-5 minute load times

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idk how that's even possible

peak dirge
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Out of the patches in our fork, about 5 or so are "sensitive"

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but the rest can be open-sourced with some work

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those sensitive patches cover our heavily improved entity tracker, in-memory worlds, and a few other things

wide chasm
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Donations via a premium plugin seem to get a lot more than just putting a donation link on the page tbh.

cunning raft
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this guy's get rich quick scheme is literally targeting 10 year olds i swear

peak dirge
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We also have a patch that restores PvP knockback to be similar to 1.8 - pretty sure people would pay mad money for that feature alone lol

cunning raft
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"unfair advantage"

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mini just solved that one

wide chasm
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Could just be user stupidity because they don't realize there are free builds available, though.

spiral garden
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i can vouch for that

twin lagoon
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@peak dirge but why though

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oh wait

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mineteria has bedwars

peak dirge
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yep

spiral garden
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would probably make some money if I put eZP as a $5 plugin with the code being on GH

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but i'd rather not

twin lagoon
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well now i need to play a match of mineteria bedwars

peak dirge
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our bedwars is using our in-memory worlds implementation too (based on Slime) 👀

unreal quarry
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Premium plugins aren't the problem, it's their authors
Eh, I disagree. "Premium" plugins (and mcmarket, etc) attracts those type of developers. This video explains it best, imho (though it's talking about when Steam had paid mods, its the same thing here, imho) https://youtu.be/ClbQwjMtQSU?t=466 (see #4 at 7:46)

upper flicker
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md do it iwth tacos

spiral garden
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btw why are paypal exchange rates so garbage

limber knotBOT
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because money

peak dirge
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we also have skywars

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so yeah

twin lagoon
spiral garden
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😱

peak dirge
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welcome to 12-year old FNAF roleplayers

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I'm 22 - I'm too old for this 💩

void void
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ah yes the ultimate brag

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having YT in your mc name

limber knotBOT
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I dont even know why I have a TV in my name

peak dirge
twin lagoon
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good shit

void void
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whats skywars again?

waxen panther
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Gunna need a few servers to balance out that many players

twin lagoon
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1/8 in the bedwars solo lobby

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kek

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oh, 2/8

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nevermind

wide chasm
#

Well, the point was really that you get premium resource authors complaining every single day about "oh no I got a 4 star review"; "help this guy did a charge back"; "I want to charge a 100 dollars for my creation"; etc. The whole forums shifts from a fun hobby project to a "gimme money" and while this can be attributed to the existence of premium plugins, if authors were just slightly more mature and didn't just went completely insane with selling low-mediocre quality plugins for ten bucks, the section could have worked as just a way to allow authors to get some compensation for their work. (So on one hand you can blame paid plugins for attracting these developers, on the other hand you can blame those same developers for their stupid attitude.)

peak dirge
#

@twin lagoon go to doubles

kindred storm
#

A good idea is to not obsess over users who didn't read the plugin page and so post a bad review

wide chasm
#

The plugin got removed from bStats for removing the ability to opt out of bStats.

kindred storm
#

I always knew the chatcontrol author was super shady

#

Trying to get people to pay into that spigot tutorial thing

minor badge
#

kangarko is a fucking disgrace to all developers lol

spiral garden
#

inb4 he hosts his own bstats

twin lagoon
#

kangaro sucks

heady spear
#

bro one of my moderators actually bought his course

#

I almost banned him 😦

void void
#

hey guys wanna add me and play together/

minor badge
#

no

wide chasm
#

SpigotCourse or MineAcademy? Because one is cheap and not worth the money and another is expensive and not worth the money 🙂

heady spear
#

one of them 😛

wide chasm
#

I pray for them its the former.

spiral garden
#

it's the same shit

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just rebranded

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i think

wide chasm
#

MineAcademy is just 600 dollars, though and I think SpigotCourse was only 20 or so.

spiral garden
limber knotBOT
#

wait waddafuq 600

cunning raft
#

paying for stuff you can learn better for free kekw

wide chasm
#

He said numerous times "We never do sales"; "This sale is gonna end soon"; "We'll never do another sale"; but it has been on sale for months now.

#

Still 97 EUR is also not worth it 🙂

spiral garden
#

you know, it's like the sales on aliexpress

#

there is a timer to tell you when it runs out

minor badge
#

wait wait wait

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isn't kangarko norwegian

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cause that's illegal in norway

spiral garden
#

but then it appears again after 2-3 hours

wide chasm
#

I thought he lived somewhere in East Europe actually, but idk

spiral garden
#

it's probably illegal in the entirety of the EU

wide chasm
#

I'd hope so.

#

Luckily he fixed his TOS of MineAcademy because that was awful before

spiral garden
#

"Where I live it is common to get $2.75 per hour. It depends on the country."

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not norway

#

this is from a thread on MCM where he was recruiting devs for $4.50/hr

unkempt mirage
wide chasm
#

Everything surrounding kangarko basically smells scammy and probably is

limber knotBOT
#

everything surrounding mcm basically smells scammy and probably is

unreal quarry
#

He said numerous times "We never do sales"; "This sale is gonna end soon"; "We'll never do another sale"; but it has been on sale for months now.
Reminds me of a line from an Adam Sandler movie
"So, you're going out of business?"
"No no no, it's just a sign. It's good for business"
store name is "Going Out Of Business"
https://youtu.be/BSdIAajX_sI?t=20

cunning raft
#

lot of scummy prison servers do that too

#

they have "90% off flash sales today only" in their MOTD all the time

spiral garden
#

that's not illegal

#

just marketing

ashen cliff
#

Or paypal rewards...

spiral garden
#

i wish privacy.com was available in europe so I could remove paypal from my life entirely

void void
#

same

ashen cliff
#

Just buy a bunch of VISA prepaid cards.

void void
#

hm heard that a few times today

lament patio
#

Oh, boy

spiral garden
#

if I ever get approved for GH sponsors that will be another paypal use out of the way

nimble tapir
jagged egret
#

\b doesn't backspace across a newline :(

ashen cliff
twin lagoon
#

fuck

#

tux got me

#

@peak dirge ok mineteria bedwars isn't that bad but players are super laggy for me?

#

doubt it's the latency

#

doesn't seem to be happening in spectataor mode though

#

knockback is way better than hypickle though KEKW

peak dirge
#

@twin lagoon it was fine for me, could be your location or smth, or it could be PE players (we have that crossplay function lol)

twin lagoon
#

o

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dunno if it's that

#

you were laggy aswell for me

#

server itself is fine, just the movement sometimes

spiral garden
#

oh

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idk, always seemed kind of normal to me

peak dirge
#

we've had to screw with entity movement due to problems with PE and some overall perf issues

twin lagoon
#

it's a fun experience other than that

peak dirge
#

but it was generally smooth for me

twin lagoon
#

sometimes the movement is smooth

spiral garden
#

also if it technically ends but then resumes after a day or two does it count?

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because that is what I have seen a lot

peak dirge
#

I'll let someone who's been actively working on that take a look

#

we are looking to refresh bedwars

#

it's kinda broken and bog standard, but I have some ideas on improvements to the game mode

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just gotta collect a list of issues and find cheap devs to go the grunt work lel

#

@twin lagoon ^

twin lagoon
#

epic

peak dirge
#

we have a big project we're working on that is taking most of the dev energy (and it's a team of 3 - so yeah)

#

the hope is that afterwards we can hire more developers to do some more stuff we can't with the present size of the team

sick needle
peak dirge
#

all our minigames will receive updates, and I'm pushing for a new minigame to be added

ashen cliff
spiral garden
#

s t r e a m s

ashen cliff
#

SLI in MC.

lament patio
#

Man, the performance hit is real for me

#

I hope Mojang has some mercy

ashen cliff
potent fossil
#

Luck plz return 404 if post not exist on bytebin

fallen oracle
#

Doing the yearly cleanup on my grandma's PC. Avast is claiming 0 viruses while Malwarebytes says over 300. Nice.

ashen cliff
#

Just assume 299 of those are Avast.

tired heath
#

Sorry, I don't talk Windows

#

🙂

spiral garden
#

ugh avast

#

i stopped installing that circa 2014

ashen cliff
void void
#

eeewwww

minor badge
#

i had avast once, its popups were annoying so i went back to windows defender lol

lament patio
#

Avast was too busy selling your mouse movements to catch them

void void
#

ClamAV gang

quartz peak
#

Im trying to figure out how much bandwidth a player would take on a server.

spiral garden
#

windows defender gang

minor badge
#

no AV gang

spiral garden
#

no more than 10mbit peak

fallen oracle
#

She is using chrome. I put UBO on there, is there anything else I should throw on there extension wise?

void void
#

ublock origin or smthin

fallen oracle
#

Ubo is ublock origin

lament patio
#

Maybe some extra blocking lists

#

for uBlock

void void
#

ah, then think that'll be enough

minor badge
#

if she watches youtube, h264ify; should help quite a bit, at least did for me

spiral garden
#

doesnt h264ify only make a difference if the computer is slow

ashen cliff
#

For anything without VP8+ acceleration.

minor badge
#

it's a grandma's computer

#

she for sure doesn't have a high spec computer

potent fossil
#

implying grannies can't be gamers

ashen cliff
#

You know very well she has a hidden computer with a Titan V.

lament patio
#

2400fps on facebook candy crush

austere ivy
#

why don't people use quotes in plugin.yml

#

seems to be that the standard is no quotes for any strings in plugin.yml, why is that?

potent fossil
#

you only need quotes in yaml if the text has special or reserved chars in it

#

its kind of a yaml convention to just not use them if you dont need them

austere ivy
#

kinda grosses me out a bit but

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do I put that in quotations? I do not know

#

also where's IntelliJ getting this information from

#

"gives the api version which this plugin is designed to support." how does it know I'm using Bukkit?

ashen cliff
#

From your dependencies I assume.

austere ivy
#

I'd assume that but how are my dependencies affecting my IntelliJ suggestions or whatever.

#

I only have Paper as a dependency. What kinda funky stuff is paper doing >:I

#

or spigot or bukkit

ashen cliff
#

Spigot offers PluginDescriptionFile, that has that exact text.

potent fossil
#

yes you put it in quotes because . is a reserved char in yaml that makes it try to process it as a float

austere ivy
#

two very good answers, thank you.

potent fossil
#

looks for the brain strength dial on brian's head

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tries to turn it up but it's rusted to the bottom

#

goes to look for WD-40

ashen cliff
fallen oracle
#

Lol my grandma has Firefox on it's PC and she was on version 39. It's having to update a few versions at a time.

#

It just went from 39 to 42 to 47 to 56 to 72

#

Now it's doing another

minor badge
#

@austere ivy it gets the info from schemastore

austere ivy
#

found it.

#

That's really interesting, thank you Proximyst.

minor badge
#

:)

fallen oracle
#

Woot, she's on 76 now

austere ivy
wise rune
tranquil vigil
void void
#

having some fun with some mod thats apparenlty uuid locked

#

no idea why they've done that

thick dragon
rustic furnace
#

(I feel like this is the best place to ask this question, sorry if its a dumb one)
So, if Paper is a fork of spigot with supposedly amazing performance boosts and api improvements then why doesn’t Spigot have the same performance improvements, or, in other words, why don’t Paper and Spigot merge into one performant server software?

pulsar wigeon
#

this subject has been done to death

twin lagoon
#

one project's mindset isn't compatible with the other's mindset

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doesn't get better than that basically

rustic furnace
#

fair point

void void
valid tartan
tropic flame
#

my computer:

can't stream youtube videos at 1080p
can play 1080p videos locally
is able to play a 1080p video that is being streamed from my phone, through FTP

#

i don't get the problem, here

#

if it's the internet or my hardware power lol

#

Paper

vestal jasper
#

download speed != upload speed

#

my dude, you're asking in paper, if paper is better

#

you're not going to get the answer "spigot is better" here

tropic flame
#

download speed != upload speed
i mean, my pc is technically still downloading bits of video from my phone and caching them

#

just like what youtube should do i guess

vestal jasper
#

Oh I misread

#

Yeah idk tbh

potent fossil
#

does the video just not play?

#

if so that happens to me, and requires browser restart

tropic flame
#

on youtube? it plays but with large frame drops and i can only handle 480p basically

#

but if i play a video stored in my hard drive it plays just fine

twin lagoon
#

what pc specs

potent fossil
#

weird

lament patio
#

Is hardware acceleration off?

tropic flame
#

Athlon X64 Dual Core +3800 2GHz
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 @twin lagoon

twin lagoon
#

that's a potato

#

an actual potato

#

The Athlon 64 is an eighth-generation, AMD64-architecture microprocessor produced by AMD, released on September 23, 2003.

#

...

lament patio
#

Yeah, the overhead of your browser must be killing the playback

potent fossil
#

holy shit

twin lagoon
#

no wait

#

it's the x2 3800+

#

from 2005.....

potent fossil
#

holy shit

twin lagoon
#

i have seen a lot of potatos in this discord

#

you're #1 on my list now

void void
#

lmao

twin lagoon
#

after i've seen something talking about a pentium d

tropic flame
#

thanks...?

vestal jasper
#

DUDE THAT'S 2 YEARS OF ADVANCEMENTS

tropic flame
#

Yeah, the overhead of your browser must be killing the playback
well that could be it, VLC is much lighter than firefox lol

vestal jasper
#

dw logic I'm making fun of simple not you

void void
#

not many browsers lighter than firefox is there

potent fossil
#

why are you making fun of me bitch

vestal jasper
#

I think netscape is more akin to what his computer can handle

twin lagoon
#

what operating system do you even run @tropic flame

vestal jasper
#

windows 3.1

tropic flame
#

windows 7

twin lagoon
#

the fact that you are able to run windows 7 is impressive

void void
#

this is a proper case of where linux is much better

tropic flame
#

oh and 2GB of ram

potent fossil
#

ok am will going to trying to sleeping been awak for like 20 hrs

twin lagoon
#

i'd definitely use linux yeah

void void
#

night night

twin lagoon
#

though getting a new pc is a good idea too lmao

void void
#

^

vestal jasper
#

Your system came out before vista existed.
The fact that your system could run vista is impressive.

Ok the fact that any system could run vista is impressive tbh

void void
#

thats the best idea

twin lagoon
#

alright what CPU can i expect from the next potato master

lament patio
#

I can outpotato that tbh

vestal jasper
#

@tropic flame you happen to have a 3.5 inch disk drive on there? LUL

lament patio
#

I have a Celeron 847 PC in a box somewhere

twin lagoon
#

disqualified

lament patio
#

Whooping 1.1 GHz

twin lagoon
#

has to be from a new user & used as primary computer

tropic flame
#

@tropic flame you happen to have a 3.5 inch disk drive on there? :LUL:
@vestal jasper no, although my computer somehow thinks there is a floppy disk drive installed

void void
#

and actually be using that pc as their main

twin lagoon
#

yes

void void
#

yep

tropic flame
#

although i can't physically find it

lament patio
#

Ah, ok, nvm then lol

vestal jasper
#

It's so ancient I wouldn't be surprised if there was one tucked away somewhere in there

void void
#

might be a floppy bay

#

or maybe the bios is stored on a virtual floppy or smthin

twin lagoon
#

god i love this discord

vestal jasper
#

Some day I'll have a system that has both a 3.5 inch drive and a 5.25 inch drive

tropic flame
#

i've got a DVD-RW drive tho which i see not many computers have one nowadays? lol

twin lagoon
#

well, obviously

void void
#

my old laptop has that

twin lagoon
#

dvd's and cd's are as dead as floppy disks

#

lol

tropic flame
#

lol i absolutely can't live without a DVD drive tho

twin lagoon
#

wat

vestal jasper
#

Pog imagine if I can get my 8 inch floppy drive to work with one of my computers

tropic flame
#

i mean

twin lagoon
#

maybe @cosmic raft can donate his old pc

tropic flame
#

i can but i've got CDs with pictures from when I was little lol

void void
#

well then back them up

tropic flame
#

i should definitely back them up somewhere tho

twin lagoon
#

rip em & store em in the cloud

void void
#

^

#

CDs really like their data corruption

vestal jasper
tropic flame
#

could a floppy disk drive be behind my computer by any chance-

twin lagoon
#

the perfect size

tropic flame
#

it's definitely not in front

twin lagoon
vestal jasper
#

once you go 8 inches you don't go back

#

except the bit density of 8s are kinda bad iirc

#

The family of 8-inch disks and drives increased over time and later versions could store up to 1.2 MB;

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nvm they're poggers

#

The 5.25-inch diskettes were available in a capacity of 160 KB single side, 360 KB low density, and 1.2 MB high density sizes.

tropic flame
#

i've got lots of CDs tbh

#

i mean i'm also counting with my PS2 games because those could be useful for emulation

#

and yeah i was trying to look behind my computer and no sight of floppy drive either

lament patio
#

My family has quite a few DVDs full of pictures

tropic flame
lament patio
#

To run everything through MozJPEG and buy cloud space to fit it all ... Bleh

tropic flame
#

if you have many DVDs then just have a drive at that point tbh

twin lagoon
#

nice

tropic flame
#

though getting a new pc is a good idea too lmao
i just haven't gotten a new one for financial reasons

#

in fact this pc was bought used already

sweet temple
scarlet flicker
mystic lynx
vapid escarp
dusty oxide
gleaming needle
void void
pulsar wigeon
#

wonder how many are real

#

because it's a publicly discoverable discord server

wispy lotus
soft hazel
minor badge
#

lol

dusk drift
#

and inbuilt bitcoin miner

#

They look fine to me?

lament patio
#

0/10 no hoglin dance

fresh minnow
lament patio
alpine olive
dusty oxide
#

sup

austere ivy
#

If you fork a project and make significant changes which aren't related to the original project and won't ever be merged in, should you move that repo to its own repo that isn't a fork?

minor badge
#

not necessarily

limber knotBOT
#

depends

minor badge
#

if upstream is unmaintained or your project ends up deviating too much to be deemed the same thing, yes, id say so

limber knotBOT
#

having it as a github fork allows other people to easily discover it

#

but fork repos don't get all of the features of a full repo so there is a downside to it

minor badge
#

i should consider doing that for when i wanna help people in here lol

#

i think you legally wont be noticed at all anyways

limber knotBOT
#

it probably violates github's ToS, lol

#

but that doesn't mean it's illegal ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

(talking about modifying private code is against discord ToS too but you guys seem to still be there thonk)

#

doubt any of the content hosting companies care about copyright anymore, they just get forced by governments/companies to claim they do sometimes

worn ember
#

lots of money to be made by it

#

copyright claims arent cheap

limber knotBOT
#

that would be the NSA, Viper. lol

austere ivy
#

there was this one popular plugin that I liked but I found needed a lot of changes

#

I basically rewrote the thing and now I don't know if continuing to let it be "a fork" would be good practice

limber knotBOT
#

I mean, the NSAs main goal is espionage outside of the US, lol

#

anything they do to US citizens is illegal and was the whole point of Snowdens leaks

fallen oracle
#

Have a few extra Steam Keys. Don't know the game it's for. Someone can have it. YPG8G-AJ8R0-0AG6V

austere ivy
#

sees who's steam loads the fastest

#

boom I got it >:D

fallen oracle
#

What game was it?

austere ivy
#

Codex of Victory

limber knotBOT
#

aww, I just remembred I had it open already, lol

austere ivy
#

never heard of it.

fallen oracle
#

Me neither

austere ivy
#

would you like it Phoenix?

limber knotBOT
#

nah

fallen oracle
#

You already redeemed it. How would you give it to him?

limber knotBOT
#

also ^

austere ivy
#

it absolutely doesn't look like something I would play so now I feel bad ;c

fallen oracle
#

Lol

#

Here's another. G8R6A-APFJW-3JXVK

austere ivy
#

someone else can go ahead and take it

#

I've already been burnt ;p

limber knotBOT
fallen oracle
#

Client only.

austere ivy
#

;')

fallen oracle
#

Wonder who will get it. 🤔

austere ivy
#

Who got it?

limber knotBOT
#

I mean I definitly don't have 300 games I haven't played yet lying around...

fallen oracle
#

If it says it was already redeemed, someone got it. I can't check.

austere ivy
#

I'm quite boring, I just play the populars.

worn ember
#

9/10 games on epic i've gotten for free lol

austere ivy
#

Y'know, Factorio, Terraria, that kinda thing ;p

#

glares disappointingly

limber knotBOT
#

apparently nobody redeemed it yet, it's Charlie's Adventure thonk

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Charlie's Adventure - Take on the role of Charlie and enter a strange and mysterious world... - Action, Adventure, Casual, Indie - released 29 Nov, 2016 - $10.99

#

Mixed ;_;

void void
#

.8ball will hytale be good

limber knotBOT
#

shakes the magic 8 ball... It is decidedly so

#

"When I open the game it is called SpaceeZombies and not Charlie's Adventure." lmao

fallen oracle
#

7959M-RH05G-JBTNB

void void
#

product key

austere ivy
#

Who's up next?

#

That's correct.

#

New profile picture time.

#

If anyone's got any cool name suggestions I'd appreciate it, I quite hate TehBrian.

worn ember
#

same

fallen oracle
#

BrianRealms

limber knotBOT
#

TheBrian

#

runs

austere ivy
#

test.

void void
#

Brian

#

Math Test

austere ivy
#

I'mana be disappointed if no one suggests tuberculosis lol.

gleaming rivet
#

has anyone experienced lag with Player Analytics?

fallen oracle
#

Did anyone get that one?

austere ivy
#

I'll check.

worn ember
#

AidsSpreader69

austere ivy
#

It wasn't, it was Upside Down.

fallen oracle
#

Alrighty. I will wait till later to accidentally drop keys.

void void
#

xXmr_swag_balls_69Xx

austere ivy
#

Alright ;p

#

Where are you getting those from anyway?

fallen oracle
#

They are dupes of games I apparently already have.

austere ivy
#

Huh.

void void
#

WHAT was that key for

fallen oracle
#

I had like 200 keys from last December when we did the 25 days of giveaways in HelpChat or whatever the amount of days it was.

void void
#

show me the door

fallen oracle
#

So I went through and started trying the ones that haven't been used yet.

vestal jasper
#

blobwobble making villagers restock once every other day instead of twice a day

fallen oracle
#

I have like 75 more keys to go through but I gate rate limited by Steam so I have to wait an hour or so.

void void
#

bonk

austere ivy
#

Did you know that biweekly means both twice a week and once every two weeks?

#

My sister and I got into an argument because I thought it was twice a week and she thought it was once every two weeks.

fallen oracle
#

I said I would wait till later.

austere ivy
#

Apparently it's both thonk

void void
#

fortnightly is once every two weeks

fallen oracle
worn ember
void void
#

ban applied

worn ember
#

they now have songs on the bar

cunning raft
#

it's sections

#

you put timecodes in the description

twin lagoon
#

chapters / sections are neat yeah

gleaming rivet
#

:sadpepe:
@fallen oracle use a VPN 😄 ?

#

sry for tag, quoting does that >.>

void void
#

from account or internet address

gleaming rivet
#

ah >.>

#

sry.

worn ember
#

oh i thought yt did it automaticlaly for songs

#

thats nice too tho

acoustic cedar
fallen oracle
void void
#

1991

full bay
vestal jasper
#

why the fuck are there two time values for worlds

#

setTime and setDayTime
both use ticks

#

villager methods use both

tired heath
#

Hi, is there actually a way to force the loading of a plugin (witch code I can not change) at the end. I use wilderness-tp and it wil not tp to worlds by multiverse or plotsquared, only when i reload its config, so i guess it got loaded to early?

round igloo
vestal jasper
#

Trying to RE villager methods and change them up

limber knotBOT
#

V​ic​ar​io​us​: full time since world inception and the current day's time

#

(afaik)

tired heath
#

Yeah, the load before could work, is it possible to unpack the jar and alter the yml and repack it

vestal jasper
#

huh

tired heath
#

Maybe I should try that

#

I will check it out, thx

limber knotBOT
#

how about: using a non-broken random tp plugin? thonk

#

not hard to imagine ;)

tropic flame
#

Fun fact, RTP is a television channel here

#

In portugal

fluid kernel
tropic flame
#

yes I know it means random teleportation or whatever

cunning raft
#

rtp in ess soon!

#

once async teleport happens

#

so maybe not so soon kappa

limber knotBOT
#

once async teleport happens

#

wat

shell vine
#

@fallen oracle 😮 one of the first video games i ever played

cunning raft
#

phoenix see essentials prs

vestal jasper
#

phoenix616: getTime does indeed seem to be time since inception, according to how the value is treated

void void
solid cedar
vestal jasper
#

yeah both getTime and getDayTime are longs

limber knotBOT
#

wtf is that pr? Oo

#

oh, essentials does some timer/delay/cooldown bs

cunning raft
#

mostly safety checks

#

which causes sync loads

shell vine
#

oh yea i reported that last year 👀

limber knotBOT
#

tf are those future changes to the economy though? Oo

vestal jasper
#

fuck it tbh I'm deobfing this method

cunning raft
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which ones phoenix

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barty wut

limber knotBOT
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runs

vestal jasper
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barty which josh are you referring to

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me?

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oh

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jroy

worn ember
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@tired heath is that a plugin from someone else?

shell vine
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im josh too poggers

worn ember
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Same

vestal jasper
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@cunning raft sorry we're gonna have to fight to the death over that name

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ok hold up are we all just named josh?

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we're gonna have serious problems here

limber knotBOT
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technically he is the only josh talking right here now

worn ember
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Well Joshua to be exact

cunning raft
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im joshua

worn ember
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Reee

cunning raft
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but i go by josh

fluid kernel
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the bot is gay

cunning raft
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and uhh

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i have a role u don't i win

vestal jasper
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similar except my real name is an intentional fucking typo

tired heath
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So I solved the problem, it is the plugin https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/wilderness-tp.22853/ by RoboMWM
The problem was exactly what i guessed, it got loaded to early. Accroding Spigot help, softdepend will foce the plugin to load after its soft depend plugins.
Just opened the jar and updated the softdepend list: [GriefPrevention,Vault,WorldBorder,PlotSquared,Multiverse-Core]

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If anyone will have the same issue, I also send it to the dev

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for future updates

vestal jasper
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tbh plugin should be listening to world load

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if it handles worlds like that

tired heath
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It could actually list the worlds when you do /wild ... but will not work without the change above.

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I do not know the code, but it works now

cunning raft
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pheonix: that diff doesn't point to anything

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link rather

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what were you talking about

limber knotBOT
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it does?

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wait

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wat

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fuck you too github I guess

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"//The chunk we're teleporting to is 100% going to be loaded here, no need to teleport async."

shell vine
fallen oracle
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Yeah it's a good game.

deft marsh
wet anvil
oak atlas
fallen oracle
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Woot. It let me put it in the rest of the keys without rate limiting again.

oak atlas
void void
waxen panther
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I am josh also

tall wyvern
gentle nova
static badge
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oh no no no no no

limber knotBOT
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lmao

fallen oracle
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Why is everyone joinings multiple times? Smh my head. Make up your mind.

slender jay
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oh yeah

fallen oracle
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Not bad

limber knotBOT
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had to restart a 1200 days uptime server recently ;_;

slender jay
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oh thats just sad

limber knotBOT
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almost exactly 3.5 years

latent valve
slender jay
neat smelt
cunning raft
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jfc

slender jay
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yeah i was wondering why a lot of people joined at the same time

cunning raft
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haha ping wiz!!!!! funny i laugh

latent valve
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wiz comback with 100ping thinking_gun

slender jay
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some people have no life

void void
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ur gonna regret that

latent valve
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@slim nymph can ya nuke them? sry for ping

slender jay
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and its just sad

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is z here?