I'm using dynmap with v307 and I have no problem
I generated a 20K x 20K map, dynmap mode flat
#general
main rapids
ruby stratus
Updating my maps progressively from 1.8 to 1.15.2 made dynmap not generate the chunks that I haven't visited.
and by "haven't visited", I mean "haven't visited since 1.14"
vernal moth
run a fill then
ruby stratus
It loads those you viewed, but that's it.
no clue if it works better on maps generated > 1.14
....mingw ?
what are you using that for that could possibly have any relation with minecraft ?
ok
main rapids
@twin lagoon this is the other side of the map, there are really many villages
ruby stratus
and no, mingw will not prevent buffer overflows
well not any more than gcc would do
it's not its job
void void
btw weby phoenix uses irc, and you just pinged his discord
red imp
Any idea what¨s this in proxy console? >.... [16:23:04 WARN]: Event PreLoginEvent(cancelled=false, cancelReasonComponents=null, connection=[/xxxxxx|mates_scorpion] <-> InitialHandler) took 389ms to process! Happen multiple times
red imp
it happens to almost everyone
void void
always funny when you run highest ping
highest i remember was 10 seconds
must've been hell for them
red imp
but players have good ping 😄
and this will spam my console everytime if someone has slow connection?
void void
i dunno, go to #paper-help maybe
cinder monolith
waxen panther
void void
cinder monolith
hidden nimbus
primal sand
red imp
but it's in proxy console, so it's not paper?
pulsar wigeon
read the whole thing
it's a proxy plugin event handler taking too long
also #waterfall-help exists
quartz peak
Well now that’s interesting 🤔
unkempt summit
void void
all of their plugins are on xisumas website from what i remember
primal river
But will using Paper work for it?
void void
yes
primal river
Or should I use Spigot?
left swift
I've got paper with me right now but where do I put the spigot and how does a fork involve with these items
U guys r crazy
heavy jetty
Anyone know if there's a userdata/playerdata file I can modify to remove a player's previous name from /seen? I checked the essentials userdata files and world playerdata files but it doesn't seem to be in either
nvm, figured it out
icy escarp
jagged egret
Are there any plans to update Paper to use Mojang's mappings
dusk drift
Its not even legal to do so
upper flicker
none until microsoft legal okays it
twin lagoon
licensing is being worked on but who knows how long that is going to take
dusk drift
twin lagoon
every plugin interacting with nms will break too
upper flicker
there are a variety of approaches we could take to mitigate that
dusk drift
Thats kinda their choice
void void
wasn't someone working on that
upper flicker
the real issue atm is the licensing
twin lagoon
.g minidigger toothpick
limber knotBOT
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twin lagoon
that's a paper fork w/ mojang remapping
void void
yep thats it
golden gust
We can't do that type of stuff unless spigot does that, we'd have magic in place if we were to do that ourselves
jagged egret
ah the joys of Mojang's legal team
main rapids
was the spigot abandoned? 
twin lagoon
no?
jagged egret
no
upper flicker
my garden spigot was
void void
they were doing spigot since before mojang released mappings
left swift
I got paper stuck in my spigot it wont work
main rapids
using paper is a path of no return
main rapids
I didn't use the paper because they spoke badly of it;
"he works in multi thread, he has a lot of problems"
But when I went looking deeply, I came across the opposite, spigot is dead. The forum is good but the jar ...
dusk drift
I stopped playing MC and srv stuff from 2013-2017
twin lagoon
But when I went looking deeply, I came across the opposite, spigot is dead. The forum is good but the jar ...
spigot isn't dead
the jar is still maintained, but irrelevant for most servers
the forums is godawful
just fucking useless
vernal moth
Spigot is dead
Craftbukkit isn't
Big difference
Md only maintains API and impl, doesn't care about performance
mellow cedar
isn't craftbukkit maintained by spigot team?
golden gust
spigot maintains a fork of craftbukkit
mellow cedar
Then who maintains craftbukkit?
pulsar wigeon
no one
upper flicker
no one
mellow cedar
I see
pulsar wigeon
craftbukkit died in 6 years ago
upper flicker
spigot maintains their own fork and thats all there is
main rapids
does the paper remain an extension of the spigot or does it already have one?
mellow cedar
But isn't spigot built on top of craftbukkit?
pulsar wigeon
wut
main rapids
paper > spigot > craftbukkit > bukkit > nms ?
golden gust
bukkit*
pulsar wigeon
it's not
pulsar wigeon
bukkit is just an api for MC
it's not slapped on top of mojang's code at all
despite sometimes mirroring details of MC's structure
main rapids
paper dev's have you ever thought of keeping just one configuration file?
waxen panther
golden gust
there is always gonna be a bukkit.yml and a spigot.yml
it makes sense to keep our own config file too, especially as we need to version stuff
main rapids
hm, I understand
mellow cedar
iknowwhatImdoingandthisispaper.yml
void void
so what happens if spigot dies then
vernal moth
If that would ever happen, all kind of things would change
No need to debate that before it's actually a possibility
Wat
main rapids
I had in mind, why three yaml files than just one containing all the settings
void void
cos extra work for no benefit
main rapids
cat already answered above, I just had in mind why
twin lagoon
multithreaded JVM
fallen oracle
Well fuck, I was going to use an excuse to leave the house today but someone else in the family already took care of what I was going to use for my excuse.
left swift
Just do it again to make sure it's done right
vernal moth
Why do you need an excuse?
fallen oracle
Because everyone in my family is immune compromised and they freak out if someone leaves.
vernal moth
Oh
fallen oracle
I just wanted some McDonald's yo
vernal moth
Isn't corona every for most countries anyways?
limber knotBOT
just order it?
vernal moth
Over*
golden gust
no?
fallen oracle
No lol we haven't even peaked yet
golden gust
There are still infected people
some in hospital, some don't even know they got it, etc
fallen oracle
I could order it but I only want $2 worth of food and it'd cost more in delivery 😂
limber knotBOT
lots of places in Germany rely on "oh, we still have capacity in our hospitals, lets just open up everything again" which is freaking stupid
golden gust
what I do is get stuff like breakfast wraps for tomorrow
fallen oracle
I guess I'm making waffles for lunch.
limber knotBOT
"known cases"
golden gust
What's nice is ordering takeaway for myself, coz min orders and stuff, I get my fave, and a pizza
They've gotten the R rating down
main rapids
people are getting infected in the house
golden gust
Or, at least, the R rating towards people who actually end up going into hospital
waxen panther
Bold of you to assume most countries are as capable as Germany
England is terrible
main rapids
@fallen oracle your gifphoto is cool
vernal moth
hasnt the world accepted that the US is a third world country?
waxen panther
I’m pretty sure Americans just want corona tbh
void void
i can't tell if i've had corona for 2 weeks or breathed in too much plastic accidentally
main rapids
England is terrible
@waxen panther poor guy, don't know Brazil
golden gust
we shoulda locked down earlier, tbqh
void void
agreed
fallen oracle
Facts
waxen panther
I don’t know Brazil no
wide chasm
I think pretty much everyone was too late with locking down
void void
UK was telling us some shit about capping the curve when the NHS is at the limit
thats just idiotic
limber knotBOT
I put all my crypto trading predcition abilities to good use and added a forcast do your chart mini: https://i.imgur.com/Zu9Y9PR.png :P
fallen oracle
It has gone down tho
wide chasm
lol
waxen panther
Uk is gunna have to close again soon 
fallen oracle
It used to be 35K a day
golden gust
Not exactly what they where saying
void void
i gotta save that graph
wide chasm
We're at 200-300 cases a day currently
golden gust
They wanted to delay lock down, but, also wanted to avoid hitting the limit of the thing
fallen oracle
23K
main rapids
good part of the population of brazil is poor, imagine if they stay at home ... they will die of hunger
vernal moth
fallen oracle
The us has 1/3rd of all deaths
vernal moth
thats the same chart as the one I posted for germany
fallen oracle
Almost 2/5th of all cases
Correct
Bro Americans are just far
Fat
It's survival of the fittest
They didn't listen when they said stop eating McDonald's
vernal moth
trump just likes playing thanos
fallen oracle
And now Burger King ain't playing no more
vernal moth
gonna do the snap on US population
fallen oracle
Yeah most states are re-opening
jagged egret
lol one of the people who made the portal for viewing Florida's cases was fired for refusing to manipulate the data
jagged egret
2 whole months?
fallen oracle
We were on a private beach
wide chasm
A shitshow in the US, what else is new!
fallen oracle
Our plane had 50 people on it
void void
agreed stef
void void
US is like a giant anarchy server
jagged egret
can someone here explain how the spigot/paper patch & build system works
fallen oracle
Actually in some places it did
jagged egret
🤯
void void
like you create the patches, i don't bothering knowing the rest
jagged egret
right I want to know the details of how it applys patches and stores them and handles building in the jar and such haha
left swift
Ppl in us are too bent on some obscure idea of freedom that want to be able to think they can do whatever they want
Full lockdown wouldn't work in us
void void
right thats someone elses territory then
jagged egret
I've learned one of my biggest pet peeves is when people misuse the word "right"
"I hAvE a RIghT To a haIRcUT!!" no, karen, you don't, and you're making a mockery of the rights we actually fought for 😒
void void
those rights aren't working out too well
wide chasm
Lol, right to a haircut
floral trellis
left swift
The dumb people put the other dumb people into power
jagged egret
@spare venture, yeah democracy only works if you have an educated populus
vernal moth
voting is like an IQ test and the majority of the US failed
that why you got trump now
fallen oracle
Haircut line near me is about 5 hours
void void
i mean china does stuff based on smart people and US does stuff like a popularity contest
in appointing people to rule
left swift
Lol
void void
communist party has all control, so like it works until a bunch of people have a strike or smthin
i've seen worse systems
fallen oracle
My favorite party is the pizza party
void void
why not cake party
vernal moth
I would rather have China gov than us gov to be fair
left swift
We cant watch winnie the pooh then
wide chasm
If I can't watch Winnie the Pooh I don't want it
limber knotBOT
at least the US doesn't have a fucking genocide going on
void void
huh?
jagged egret
these are fair points
void void
i'd prefer chinese
limber knotBOT
also having a Chinese government without actually being Han is just 
waxen panther
fallen oracle
Winnie!
jagged egret
just look at the Equifax breach, the head of security was a music major and had no formal cybersecurity education
kinda like our government
fallen oracle
Gooba just randomly came on in this playlist
main rapids
I'm in the top 3, towards the top 1. USA wait for us!
left swift
Us can finally be number 1 in something again
void void
raw pasta
void void
oil and bread is quite good
left swift
Pasta deez nuts
fallen oracle
What
void void
that's chefist
main rapids
desktop server is good?
i am seriously thinking about doing this but my biggest problem is ddos
left swift
Lol
void void
^
twin lagoon
left swift
Router login is admin and password
void void
open 22
main rapids
don't do server on your own pc
@void void I say a simple server at home, separate from the desktop
void void
still not good idea, cos network
and electricity
it kind of depends where you live tbh
but ye old servers are power hungry af
void void
mine wants 200watts on load
main rapids
my ancient dell costs $20/m
@void void the difference between us is: you pay in dollars and receive in dollars, I pay in dollars and receive in real
void void
i was an idiot when i bought it
thought it was going to be a powerful and quiet pc
boy was i wrong
only after i bought it i learnt that i'm a silence freak
that sucked
i wave my door about a bit every hour or so
works for me
main rapids
which vps cheaper in your country?
void void
ur hosting it, doesnt matter where we are
main rapids
cheaper or better
@still smelt 2
red imp
main rapids
32 $ price
red imp
Guys how to fix this crash?
void void
glue
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
void void
twin lagoon
provide the whole goddamn crash log part
not some cut portion of a stacktrace
throw it in paste.gg and get back to #paper-help
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
minor badge
lombok is such a massive pain in the ass holy shit
waxen panther
kindred storm
lombok is good when you're the one using it
minor badge
just abuse alt+insert in intellij
kindred storm
not really good for documentation though
minor badge
unit tests
minor badge
the only unit i know of is the absolute unit you must be to not have unit tests
main rapids
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nf62Gc
@still smelt This is too expensive, it costs 4800 BRL ($ 900)
there's a better way to assemble at a lower price, if I do that I intend to get a ryzen
twin lagoon
there's a better way to assemble at a lower price, if I do that I intend to get a ryzen
barely
lol
main rapids
I know about 10 good VPS provider
@still smelt 35$ = 4vCPU + 8GB Ram + 200GB SSD + 7TB transfer
void void
i mean if thats too expensive just don't self host
twin lagoon
^
void void
tf
fallen oracle
That's hawt
void void
i wonder if i should start signing my stuff on github
fallen oracle
There's no reason not to
void void
oh cool that'll put me up to 2 cool points
upper flicker
thats pretty much all it does yeah
its like the people who show the 'PRO' badge
flame stickers make it go faster
fallen oracle
Wait that is optional?
upper flicker
yes
fallen oracle
Okay but you show it
void void
so ur slow
fallen oracle
void void
maybe you should enable that
void void
we need you going fast
static badge
dusk drift
Wraps > Tacos
Just me?
void void
dumb taco hater
cunning raft
smh not signing commits
upper flicker
leafs just upset about forest fires again
fallen oracle
dusk drift
LMFAO
upper flicker
your face is a dumpster fire
void void
rip
fallen oracle
It's hailing taquitos!
void void
wha?
fallen oracle
Watch the video
void void
oh god earrape
fallen oracle
?
void void
those electronic sounds don't agree with me
deft creek
void void
you know what
for my comment on the gpg thing, i'm putting a 2b reference
i've narrowed it down to two
Imps on top!, or the disabling of exploits has been disabled due to an exploit
ashen karma
spice finch
How to get this badge 
cosmic raft
left swift
I got the g703 wireless mouse pretty nice
left swift
Crapple
void void
logitech
left swift
Premium build quality
harsh remnant
left swift
Apple has gotten to you already
twin lagoon
logitech is the way to go for your mainstream wireless keyboard stuff
warm anchor
Cherry blue gang
void void
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mk540-advanced-wireless-keyboard-mouse-combo?crid=1759
get this and throw out the mouse
twin lagoon
or just
dusk drift
I used a membrane for 8 years
twin lagoon
buy the keyboard itself
void void
cant
dusk drift
I got worse at games when I switched 
void void
just get the mk540 set and throw out the mouse, its a good keyboard
i have it, feels nice
^
warm anchor
I like my keyboard like my woman, loud and obnoxious 
void void
lmao
cunning raft
Search stupid things, get stupid answers
minor badge
stupid questions indeed do get stupid answers https://owo.whats-th.is/9bBmUnZ.png
spiral garden
@cunning raft
left swift
Josh mama
spiral garden
this guy
void void
i'm ashamed of how often i use urban dictionary
beginning is good
wonder what my name is on there
ooh i'm apparently one of the best guys you'll ever meet
waxen panther
I am hot thanks
void void
damn it a dork as wel
spiral garden
i mean with all the british slang these days
minor badge
warm anchor
Did y’all just write your own UD page
spiral garden
I come to visit urban more and more often
void void
my name's mark in every decent language kek
left swift
Markicano?
void void
ngl this urban dictionary is really complimenting me
minor badge
i dont really know what my name is in most languages, i generally just use Mariell cause that's all in the english alphabet lol
jagged egret
how do y'all say json
void void
jay son
jagged egret
like the name jason?
jagged egret
thank you
wide chasm
Jay sun more for me, but basically the same 🙂
minor badge
it's all about how you pronounce jason i suppose
jagged egret
that's the way to say it. I keep hearing people say "jason" and I'm just like 😒 but then I started to doubt myself
minor badge
i too do jay sun when i say jason
void void
i mean its kind of a sun
twin lagoon
jason bourne
upper flicker
as long as everyone agrees its not jay ess oh enn
waxen panther
minor badge
lmao
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waxen panther
Some guy that joined a server im in today lol
minor badge
when mikro tells you to bend over ^
left swift
lament patio
I wonder what Urban Dictionary says about my name
void void
.g ud kyle
limber knotBOT
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lament patio
Oh
void void
A man who, when browsing his name on Urban Dictionary, will get a ridiculous confidence boost.
going on a date, feeling hands shaking and almost about to pee your pants?
no worries, open urban dictionary
is that descriptive of you kyle?
lament patio
No, not enough monster energy and punching walls jokes
left swift
Wow why u pinging notable smh read welcome
sonic whale
void void
its pinging for a reason, that rule is to stop people coming in and pinging cos they're special
left swift
Wow really crazy
heady spear
wat
void void
viper wants to use your color scheme for plugin messages
left swift
Lol
jagged egret
Me: "Alright, time to finally start working on this project"
GitHub: is down
upper flicker
you dont need github pfft
jagged egret
I do if I'm tryna clone a project z :P
blazing nebula
are you named after an intergovernmental organization?
jagged egret
no
blazing nebula
oh
void void
small italian ween inc
cosmic raft
lmao @void void
void void
olive marlin
CoreProtect?
twin lagoon
epic
olive marlin
SQLite is fine for smaller deployments. But this should be in MySQL.
minor badge
37GiB coreprotect here :D
left yacht
MySQL for coreprotect is strange
purging is broken on it
and it likes to behave really slowly on these large datasets
void void
intelli fix pls
left yacht
doubt he intended it to be 400+GB
flat prairie
olive marlin
An SQLite database is limited in size to 140 terabytes (247 bytes, 128 tibibytes).
Imagine having 100TB SQLite file.
main rapids
wow 1GB in SQLITE
olive marlin
SQLite is great. But if you're into 100s of GBs you should start looking into alternative solutions.
blazing nebula
What if you have a lot of data
left yacht
@olive marlin don't worry we'll get there in a few years
we reset that file every 5 weeks
olive marlin
Ouch.
main rapids
how to access /playerdata/ in a browser without needing sql data?
olive marlin
Yeah, I'd look into MySQL.
As SQLite states itself:
For device-local storage with low writer concurrency and less than a terabyte of content, SQLite is almost always a better solution.
You are getting close to their recommended limit - so you passed the real recommended limit.
Especially that you want relatively fast reads / writes tbh.
.g online nbt editor
limber knotBOT
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olive marlin
Something like this RBN?
main rapids
I'll check
olive marlin
I guess I don't understand what you mean, sorry. Maybe someone else can help you 🙂
main rapids
ignore it
thorny totem
Is it a good idea on a SSD to compress all files on the drive for a minecraft server or leaving it uncompressed?
terse prism
limber knotBOT
why waste CPU power?
blazing nebula
why CPU?
limber knotBOT
who do you think would compress and decomrpress it?
thorny totem
idc wasting cpu cores, unless it uses up to 100% all time decompressing/recompressing
shouldn't matter
blazing nebula
well when are you gonna recompress?
thorny totem
like, compressing at the cost of cpu cycles
I'm on WS 2019, compressing the entire drive to save up space, unused chunks by example
limber knotBOT
why, disk space is dirt cheap
thorny totem
(ik y'all say 
windows) 😂
void void
wtf your servers on windows
ashen cliff
Depends on the algorithm and setup.
You could only compress large files or smaller files.
It comes in handy when you have a bunch of mostly duplicate files.
thorny totem
ye, OVH^^ Tho I have a 4TB drive but my dynmaps are on it and I don't want seeing 100% disk usage nonstop if too active
blazing nebula
expensive is relative, phoenix
void void
its cheaper than ever
tulip inlet
just purge your coreprotect database 
void void
^^
thorny totem
Mysql databases uses just 30GB so thats not an issue
ashen cliff
Or use MySQL with compression enabled.
thorny totem
Dynmaps are, using over 1Tb but disk access averages between 20-50% depending how many players online
MySQL is on the 4Tb drive so thats not a problem, but the world folder is over 150GB, copressing/decompressing on the fly, at the cost of cpu cycles
Thats I thought to, my friend told me, but reducing the quality would rise the disk activity since it has to manage smaller files, right? (sorry if my english is bad)
void void
ur already not getting full performance cos of windows, whats more cos of compression 🤷♂️
thorny totem
ye
ashen cliff
The number of files is the same, they are just a lower resolution.
Might as well use jpeg.
thorny totem
hm yeah
fallen oracle
thorny totem
thanks y'all for your suggestions/inputs ❤️
hardy ocean
fallen oracle
How long does this stupid Debian VM take to install. It's been like 15 minutes.
I gave it 8GB of RAM and 16 vCores.
ashen cliff
Net install?
fallen oracle
Hmm?
granite needle
ashen cliff
The net installer or the "full" CD/DVD installer?
fallen oracle
I think net. It's just an ISO.
topaz mortar
What's your downstream? Around 3-6GB takes its time.
blazing nebula
What uses <project>.impl file and what is it for? One always generates and I couldn't find anything on google... is that a maven thing or intellij?
quaint gazelle
tulip inlet
.iml is generated by idea
blazing nebula
ah yes I meant iml, yeah I gotta add it to my gitignore and was just curious
versed light
red imp
Hi, does someone here use Authme and commands.yml?
tulip inlet
a fabric mod which supports fido/u2f for 2fa would be nice 👀
limber knotBOT
there have been account exploits on mojang's side in the past so better safe than sorry
cosmic raft
Bukkit/Spigot/Paper have before unintentionally :)
latent valve
i overheard from soneone that used that thing that it still possible with mojang latest patch dunno if it true but just overheard it from soemone in that community
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cosmic raft
No code is going to be perfect. A codebase the size of MInecraft, there is going to 100% be some kind of exploit or vulnerability. You cannot test for ever single possible thing that could ever happen
Especially taking external dependencies, like netty etc, into account
void void
i mean the external dependencies have been pretty solid
not heard of any exploits to exploit dependencies, all mojang as far as i know
*from in the game
cosmic raft
Sure, but the possibility exists that it could happen :)
latent valve
well i heard from those ppl that did that the first time that it still possible....
void void
yep exists, just minecrafts a way easier target than somethin like apache or netty
then again governments have those exploits
tulip inlet
https://namemc.com/name/DaQa scared me so much when i saw it
72 players with the exact same name
latent valve
goodjob mojang
tulip inlet
this is why i dont trust them
twin lagoon
hello cashicc
void void
i thought you should do that anyway
well why would you do stuff by the player name
what if their name changes
ah, well i've just always done stuff by uuid
twin lagoon
for the people who monitor their traffic here (and own a server); how much traffic do you use for your minecraft server in 1 month?
void void
also depends how special your players are
twin lagoon
right now i've marked down 5TB incoming & 15TB outgoing for a ~400 player network
latent valve
how much will it be if disable compression 🤔
void void
ooh school sent out a survey
for how this remote learning thing is going
one top tip for teachers: don't be retarded, learn to zoom in on a photo
twin lagoon
MrZDokToday at 00:53
how much will it be if disable compression 🤔
alot
this is with the proxy threshold 512
void void
mwah
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Don't count on it
latent valve
f
void void
checks out
cosmic raft
it's starting
primal river
I’m getting a server off of PebbleHost it says Paper Spigot is that the right thing
void void
limbos stuborn
cosmic raft
hm
primal river
My options are Vanilla, spigot, craft bukket, paper spigot, bungee and bedrock
latent valve
~limbo are you dead?
limbo> yes
void void
do paper spigot then
twin lagoon
~LIMBO BIST DU TOT?????
cosmic raft
~limbo uptime
twin lagoon
german screaming always works
limber knotBOT
@still smelt [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
primal river
But does paperspigot work?
limber knotBOT
@primal river [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
jagged egret
do you know what's hilarious
void void
its the same thing, just old name
jagged egret
When people use the fact that we're the only species that drinks another species' milk as a reason to not drink milk
Like come on, we're also the only species that uses Internet, cooks our food (mostly), cleans our water supplies, has a medical system, etc.
just random thoughts
void void
he spits in your milk
jagged egret
who uses a milkman
void void
old people
no we don't
wait what
how is that the first i've heard of that
ngl i want a pastaman
oh
shame ngl
in poland rural we have breadmen and watermen
that guys only in business cos the water distribution sucks there, even tho it's perfectly good 100 metres away
and cos glass > plastic
woven furnace
lusty umbra
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void void
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jagged egret
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void void
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jagged egret
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void void
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jagged egret
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latent valve
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jagged egret
jk :P
fallen oracle
Why
void void
for dot counting
latent valve
fallen oracle
My puppy.
jagged egret
ascii art
slender jay
In Italy we have pastaman
He delivers pasta every morning
At 8 am
if that was true i was gonna move to italy
latent valve
red imp
Btw is there way to enable command blocks and disable ops? I have it disabled via Luckperms, but then I can't place command blocks :/
fallen oracle
Ur client side
cunning raft
but the client won't allow for them to be placed unless you fake op
thank you glare
fallen oracle
You're welcome, Josh.
red imp
And how could I make fake ops? 😅
cunning raft
¯_(ツ)_/¯
blazing nebula
yeah why would you want fake ops?
cunning raft
yeah why would you want fake ops?
read above
blazing nebula
isn't there a command block perm in luckperms?
fallen oracle
Hey so I need help with my 1.7.3 beta server
cunning raft
Proximyst added a config option to disable the server side validation
blazing nebula
I feel like that's something that should of been checked server side always but whatever
cunning raft
they had a reason for it
probably because the server shouldn't need to validate it if the client can't place it
server doesn't have to spend process cpu cycles on it
cunning raft
why is it mojang's job to help modders
blazing nebula
compared to some MC operations
cunning raft
it's still something which can add up
could be using i/o on main?
would have to check code
1.13 was pretty
wouldn't surprise me
void void
shell vine
blazing nebula
what's wrong with viaversion?
well your asking for similiar ones so I was curious what the issues with it are.
jagged egret
they're hacky
fallen oracle
Wait what
jagged egret
nvm
cunning raft
this channel 
jagged egret
Hmm every time I re-import my Gradle project it removes src/main/java as a sources folder
cosmic raft
you are doing it wrong then
blazing nebula
😢
jagged egret
obviously but I'm not sure where 😂
waxen panther
cosmic raft
https://paste.gg paste your build.gradle
jagged egret
can I dm you
zealous wedge
Is there a reason why after 1.12 or so op causes such a long pause running the command? Long enough to be noticeable
@spare venture this was a bit ago but basically whenever the list of commands you are allowed to access changes, the server has to write out the entire command tree and send it to the client
which involves checking perms for every single command plus making a filtered copy of the commands data to send to the client
pulsar wigeon
same shit as logging in and switching worlds pre much
peak dirge
yeah, I ping him about GC stuff all the time
blazing nebula
No don’t
pulsar wigeon
depends on what it's for
fallen oracle
Not with that furry avatar
peak dirge
GC stuff he's interested in, everything else is on a case-by-case basis
just don't ping wiz or he'll take you out back and murder you
pulsar wigeon
aikar doesn't really deal with waterfall tbh
peak dirge
yeah, it's more electronicboy/cat that handles the Waterfall end of things
thing is, everybody stockpiles these problems and never reports these issues to us to the wider community can benefit
slim nymph
"24. Do not enter the pool facilities if you have Covid-19"
Damn, there goes my plans
peak dirge
stuff like this harms everybody, and not many of us are willing to plop down money to purchase an endless series of hack clients to carefully dissect
we don't have time to do that
jagged egret
so if Mojang changed the license on their mappings would paper change to them
mortal palm
slim nymph
thats not true, weve already done the effort to change mappings lol
we have an mcp build of paper for 1.13
peak dirge
fair enough
cunning raft
mojang mappings wouldn't be the main build tho aikar 😛
still need to maintain compat with spigot
unless paper becomes bigger than spigot 😳
slim nymph
you clearly dont understand what was done 😛
slim nymph
spigot -> other mappings -> apply patches -> work with sanity -> compile -> spigot mappings
goes back to spigot for compile
slim nymph
yep
cunning raft
ok that makes sense and is pretty cool
peak dirge
I see, very nice system
slim nymph
iirc he had runtime remapping not even compile time
it wasnt fully done yet though
and hard to maintain the patches with as fast everything moves
cunning raft
wasn't it in gradle or was that a different thing
slim nymph
yes
gilded imp
golden gust
part of the problem with the bungee stuff is, as tux said, nobody reports it; Or, if they do, they provide 0 information and expect a magical fix; I've asked multiple times for people to provide the basics like stack traces, etc, and gotten nothing; So, considering health, the fact that I don't have a server under attack, it makes targeting that type of stuff a pita, moreso than it already is with bungees codebase
frosty ermine
hard pasture
deep shuttle
wild echo
errant sapphire
polar sonnet
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr2IHhgzTE8 -- How to Install Forge WITH Optifine for Minecraft 1.12+! -...: "Jun 19, 2017 ... Hey everyone, today I'm going to show you how to install Forge AND Optifine for Minecraft 1.12. When you install these mods..."
analog cedar
mighty storm
so if mc fixes a bug paper patched, does the patch just get removed?
vestal jasper
Likely
mighty storm
same with spigot i assume
slim nymph
spigot fixing dupes? lol
mighty storm
why do all the issues from years ago have like 1 of each reaction from spottedleaf
on every comment
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/1384 might finally be fixed because https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-133992 is
mighty storm
man i just wanna clean up some of these issues lol
both are fixed in mc itself lol
also should close this https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3103
slim nymph
its not, we still have fixes there
and nether forts say it migth be fixed in 1.16, not 1.15, they are def broken in 1.13-1.15
we just removed the structure check from our fork, so any netherbrick will spawn them
mighty storm
ah that makes sense
slim nymph
but those whos upgraded already is prob boned
mojang has screwed up converting structures every update
mighty storm
is that what this is about? https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/492517675680006144/693844736972161106
slim nymph
no, that was to fix mojang loading a ton of damn memory for mineshafts
a useless structure they shouldnt even be recording anyways
damnit thats prob why my disk space is going up, need to find a way to delete/ stop that
wide cave
radiant heron
fossil summit
Paper dev should reach out to mikeprimm, He's pretty much the lone dev of dynmap and paper rolled out a fix about as fast as he could solve the issue. By the looks of it, a little bit of communication between parties would be beneficial to prevent further issue & help stability.
ancient bolt
mike can join this discord can't he?
upper flicker
was requested of him a few days ago
golden gust
Yea, aikar asked him to join iirc
So, like, we've reached out, up to him if he takes it 🤷♂️
upper flicker
In general though, reaching out to NMS devs in a manner that is actually productive is difficult because we don’t really know what they’re playing with
Most stuff is reactionary for that reason
ancient bolt
paper supports...what, hundreds of plugins? We can't reasonably reach out to everyone in every different IRC channel / discord...but that's why we have this discord server where plugin devs can hang out /shrug
mighty storm
Paper seems more like a hub, people should flock here not vice versa
According to bstats there's only 2 things that have more servers than paper, essentials and WorldEdit
slim nymph
@fossil summit i asked him to join us on the github commit lol
would be nice for mike to come back to this scene and work w/ us
fossil summit
This community always seems to be one step ahead of me ❤️
meager cliff
zealous wedge
they're yaml, just with a different file extension 🙂
green turret
So these blackbirds keep perching on the rail of my balcony. That would be great if they did nothing other than just sit there. But they shit everywhere.
I'm not much of a DIY guy, but I did knife up these two plastic bottles, zip tied them to the rail and ran a piece of thread between them.
I gotta say I'm pretty proud of the idea, although thinking it through, I'm sure that thread will just either fly away in heavy winds or get soaked and start sagging.
I've watched a lot of cartoons, so I very much expect a bird to fly up there, trip on the thread and fall down into its own pile of shit.
green turret
CDs? Like discs?
green turret
Hmm, I have a bunch of old CDs and DVDs.
void void
and with the thread, you could use a plastic string instead
that stuff doesn't break unless the birds start trying to eat it
green turret
Look, this was just me hacking up whatever I had lying around xD
I looked at getting those pigeon spikes, but they are so expensive and also pretty evil looking.
You ever see those videos with people running into cling film stretched over a doorway?
green turret
Okay, well, it's hilarious. I imagine the birds sort of falling backwards making a Napoleon Dynamite sound like when Uncle Rico hits him with a steak.
void void
that'll teach em!
green turret
I'm gonna be sitting here waiting for birds to try to land all day...
What a great pastime.
void void
theres worse stuff you could do
that must be what retirement is like
depends what CDs, different species hate different music
green turret
Fuck. It's a triangular balcony. I only covered one half. What if the bird lands on the other side?!
I don't have any more plastic bottles!
green turret
Some of my CDs are like mixtape stuff.
There will be enough variety in terribleness for all species to eventually fly away.
Do I just hang the CDs from the upstairs balcony floor?
Seems like it will require very strong thread to not break in heavy winds and rain.
void void
for consistency, it would have to be in the same way as the plastic bottles
green turret
That doesn't make any sense!
void void
i mean however you had done the plastic bottles, you have to do the same with the CDs
green turret
void void
oh okay
green turret
Look at that craftsmanship!
void void
Beautiful!
green turret
Not shown: other bottle to the right mounted in the same way.
junior token
Hey im not sure if this is the right spot to share any ideas or suggestions or projects that im working on but I have an idea for a server management software that would make running servers, managing servers and creating servers simpler than it already it is 😛
The idea is that you could log into a program, that is linked up with PaperMC to do everything in one spot, Edit configs, Download Plugins, Download/Automatically Download the latest paper versions to your server.
this is just a user experience demo for pre loading of the client, I am kind of looking for feedback for if it sounds like something people would use I guess?
I guess a way to look at what it could do would be to compare it to multicraft?
void void
I mean its a nice idea
vernal moth
I hope that logo is just temporary, you shouldnt use paper branding if you are not affiliated with paper
void void
^
junior token
MiniDigger, I ask you once again please stop taking such a hostile approach towards everything I do, Your causing an issue where there isn't one again. Not to mention I am completely within legal rights to use this logo in terms of Fair Use laws, Which for me are being used in terms of research and study.
twin lagoon
he has a good point
don't use the papermc name & branding for something unrelated to the project
it misleads people
void void
yep, cos with that people will come here for help when using that
twin lagoon
ye
junior token
Its not something I am developing
twin lagoon
i'm sure there's legal reasons for it too but that doesn't matter right now
vernal moth
how is that hostile? lol
junior token
because its everytime I type
vernal moth
you cant also slap fair use on everything
junior token
you reply with negativity
junior token
As far as it concerns you like I have said many a times the idea is a suggestion for paper.
twin lagoon
i doubt paper would be interested in it
green turret
No harm in making something that lowers the bar of entry to something great.
junior token
Please note: I am not a software developer, I am study my Bachelors of Graphic Design looking to build a portfolio by working with companies to produce a background for myself, I have no intentions of actually sitting at the computer and creating this software myself, it was and always has been my full intention to contact people who work within the paper company.
green turret
I mean, there's a big difference between running a server that's meant for "the public" and one that's just meant for a couple of friends. I see something like this would make sense only for the latter.
void void
ah well for something like that it'd probably be fine
but i don't think the project devs would be interested in it
green turret
Definitely not
junior token
Thats Fair enough :), whats the harm in trying thats my view on it 🙂 if it gets shot down it gets shot down but the only way ill make a name for myself in this world is by interacting with ideas.
vestal jasper
Mini it took me longer than it should've to release that there is no MiniMessage v2.0.4 on maven central, it's MiniMessage-text and MiniMessage-bungee
vestal jasper
And the above dependency example acts otherwise :^)
vernal moth
PR or shutup!
vestal jasper
either way I'm dum
latent valve
Mini so "hostile" today.
Gib him a beer
vernal moth
according to jack am always hostile, so always need beer? 🤔
vernal moth
can I use that as an excuse for my boss?
latent valve
XD
void void
i put my bets on mini having a slight hangover
void void
vernal moth
yeah, I hate you and only you specifically
void void
lol
vernal moth
and no, am not hangover, I actually slept 12 hours 😄
junior token
Never said that you hate me 🙂 Just said that your a very hostile person
void void
whts with graphics people trying to push their graphics on you
shit is annoying
he has also fair point there - why would he, software developer, be able to give a feedback on graphic design
junior token
Because Software Developers and Graphic Designers work hand in hand.
vernal moth
you can say am a direct person
junior token
in every single scenario
vernal moth
no they dont, you guys give me design and I implement it
vestal jasper
I can make a functional box.
The box looks like shit, but by golly it'll be the most functional box you've ever seen.
junior token
I design and you create my design,
granite salmon
ah general being general
junior token
Alot of the time in industry you will find designers make things that are not possible, therefore the relationship between a software designer and a UI & UX designer is very crucial.
vestal jasper
Other way around tbh.
I make a thing and you make that thing look nice.
I have no qualifications to say if that thing looks nice, that's your job, not mine
vernal moth
yes, I implement it and might make suggestions to ease implementation, but am in no way qualified to give feedback
vestal jasper
vestal jasper
I suggest you find a fellow graphic designer to grade your work :^)
void void
stop being hostile mate
vernal moth
I just rewrote our company website half a year ago, working with an agency, we only had to talk when their specifications where lacking for when I said "this is stupid to implement, lets simplify that"
latent valve
🍿
junior token
I don't understand what the problem is, god forbid anybody ever tries to further them self in life?
literally what this all comes down to.
vernal moth
stop taking this personally
potent fossil
has anyone worked with bukkits statistics api? for my plugin i need historical stats (for purposes of calculating how much change occurred) etc, afaik bukkit doesn't store historical stats, so i'd be storing them in a db then. my current dilemma... do i just say fuck it and store my own stats, or should i rely on bukkit's and modify db on bukkit's event 
sorry to interject on this here argument
but shut up
im more important
vestal jasper
mini ty though for the lib I appreciate having a nice user facing part of Text
vernal moth
why would bukkit not store historical stats? they are in the world
stuff like playtime etc
potent fossil
i mean, i would not be able to say "how much steps did they have at Date"
and "how much do they have now"
vernal moth
oh yeah
potent fossil
then get a delta