Took me 3 hours of angry file browsing before I realized that that’s the movement one when I needed to edit it
#general
heady spear
slim nymph
thats not md5's fault unless you blame him for not changing the class name lol
heady spear
Well mojang then
I’ll send them an angry letter
Though our postal service doesn’t work right now so they won’t get it
slim nymph
what the fuck
this code looks like its literally designed to do this
or wait hmm
or blah i dont understand this
ashen maple
slim nymph
cb has a "cap" on BB size, its set to 64 blocks...
wary lark
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older bug?
merry talon
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drowsy acorn
upper swan
limber knotBOT
is the line wrapping in the chat box something done by craftbukkit or is that a client-side thing?
curious why the world name is chopped in half https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/32785664/82606778-a33f1f00-9b85-11ea-935c-441bf2f3ac1c.png
tiny pelican
worn pasture
i swear every time i check here i see aikar saying something like "oh fuck i found the issue" and a new version of paper is born
celest coyote
well mc does have a lot of issues
worn pasture
same
slim nymph
Robo, chat box size is client configurable, so has to be client
hard kernel
anyone seen 🦆?
worn pasture
u want some quack?
tame pendant
Robo, I think that if you don't use any color codes in chat, it won't cut it off, but when you use color codes, it might
limber knotBOT
ooooooooooooooooooooo very good point
tame pendant
XD no worries
vestal jasper
Why
polar sonnet
I bought the files from a guy and am setting it up
this is why you setup your own server
worn pasture
that's a funny way to spell group manager
vestal jasper
Turbo I've been shilling LP lately where's my commission
vestal jasper
Lol
woven otter
Who summoned me
potent fossil
go away duck
hard kernel
hi
woven otter
Hi
woven otter
Yes what a simp simp is
hard kernel
cosmic raft
@potent fossil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Hp7bdcp4I
potent fossil
excuse me
rapid rock
limber knotBOT
good
vestal jasper
I can in #paper-dev tho
void void
Turbo I over-shill luck and forced pex users to migrate it to it when I knew where's my commision too
potent fossil
you're not even able to send messages in #paper-github what are you talking about
potent fossil
guess ur just a fukn noob then
vestal jasper
The setting effects messages and reacts 
cosmic raft
there you go
cosmic raft
kinda
potent fossil
i love kash lotta
void void
vestal jasper
cosmic raft
would you like to re-phrase that?
cosmic raft
dad
potent fossil
kick
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
I would if it was not so much effort to unban you after
rocky saffron
CentOs or Ubuntu?
potent fossil
Loaded or non-loaded question?
rocky saffron
Important
potent fossil
They both work equally well, it depends what you're comfortable with.
rocky saffron
Security
potent fossil
They both work equally well, it depends what you're comfortable with.
potent fossil
ok
opaque plaza
slim nymph
fgrep state test/debug/chunks-2020-05-21_22.49.02.txt | sort | uniq -c
2184 "state": "BORDER",
756 "state": "ENTITY_TICKING",
6688 "state": "INACCESSIBLE",
232 "state": "TICKING",
ill just repaste
"no force loaded chunks were found in overworld" when i did /forceload query
and some of the coords were really far from me or spawn too
so im suspecting fucking villages
as i am in the middle of a village
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dunno how villages would do it
slim nymph
yeah doesnt make sense to me either and for it to also be persistent
ive let it sit for a while, never unloads
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I've a tool that figure out what tickets keep the region loaded
slim nymph
yeah i used it for that paste above
slim nymph
oh
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and regionify it
but the region logic is uh broken and only works by coincidence
and the tool is outdated
and it has no ui
if you can pass me the log I can look at it with the updated tool locally
celest coyote
gotta love it how leaf and aikar are simultaneously using 3 channels for development talk
slim nymph
LMAO
slim nymph
i clicked my history to jump to message
then just pasted in here forgetting it switched channels
but this is better than help anyways lol
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also the part in paper is kinda 
in its own ways
really need to look at cleaning it up
slim nymph
i was thinking, the entity ticking ticket really should be moved into mojangs ticket sorter where THEY add player, add player ticket, and if the entity ticking distance map contains a player, also add entity ticking ticket
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probably don't need that, as the entity ticking only gets added after 2 chunk radius are loaded
so it's already held back by their sorter
slim nymph
well the sorters kinda helps, but could be better. it lets it delay adding more when the chunk threads are already overloaded, as well as aborts adding tickets once player leaves view distance of it
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well the entity ticking wont load chunks
slim nymph
it doesnt?
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as it only adds after they're loaded
slim nymph
oh i know
i meant just move its placement so the logic for player tickets could just live in 1 location
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tbh idk how to use their throttler
slim nymph
where that 33 ticket is at, just also do 31 there
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I tried copying and pasting the exact logic used for adding 33 level tickets
slim nymph
IF its in the map
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but like
it didn't work
it all went through unthrottled
that's why tuinity had such bad sync loads
all of the tickets for loading were added at once
slim nymph
oh wait, nvm, we cant do that
because it wont handle removals
what you have is prob best
its only going to handle No tick range
mojangs i mean
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if we wanna avoid the ticket manager stuff could maybe look at using the distanceareamap...
probably way faster than whatever mojang has
slim nymph
i think its prob better as it is now, as it slow rolls the chunks in
helps from flooding queues worse than it already is
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although I do see bad percentages on expired ticket handling
slim nymph
I was really happy to find this:
the last task to actually process the load also has a priority
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that's technically a part of the gen status stuff
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yeah that shit should probably be 1
slim nymph
so soon as a chunk hits full status its urgently getting into world
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public static final ChunkStatus FULL = a("full", ChunkStatus.HEIGHTMAPS, 0, ChunkStatus.o, ChunkStatus.Type.LEVELCHUNK, (chunkstatus, worldserver, chunkgenerator, definedstructuremanager, lightenginethreaded, function, list, ichunkaccess) -> {
return (CompletableFuture) function.apply(ichunkaccess);
}, (chunkstatus, worldserver, definedstructuremanager, lightenginethreaded, function, ichunkaccess) -> {
return (CompletableFuture) function.apply(ichunkaccess);
});
kek this is how they pass that btw
a dedicated fucking parameter
potent fossil
what the jesus fucking christ is that
slim nymph
parameter?
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function
it's in all of the status things
it's literally the "bring to full logic"
every status work function has that parameter
slim nymph
yeah but thats basically saying do nothing isnt it
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well no other status uses it, it's just a hack so that FULL hooks into the system
slim nymph
if (ichunkaccess instanceof ProtoChunk && !ichunkaccess.getChunkStatus().b(chunkstatus)) {
((ProtoChunk) ichunkaccess).a(chunkstatus);
}
return CompletableFuture.completedFuture(Either.left(ichunkaccess));
};```
This is whyit defaults to that if you DONT specify it
vestal jasper
an immovable object vs an unstoppable force
slim nymph
which sets status and marks saving
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no no no no I get that there's an override for it
but I find it funny that FULL needs its own special snowflake parameter
slim nymph
I think its liekely "Before work" and "after work" callbacks
and for everything before full they want to save
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no these callbacks aren't that
they're work functions
one is the async work function
the other is the sync work function
opal cliff
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but for FULL they needed to add a paramter to these functions just to pass the actual function required to bring the chunk up to full
no other work function has its own special snowflake thing like that
if (chunkstatus == ChunkStatus.LIGHT) {
completablefuture1 = this.b(playerchunk, chunkstatus);
} else {
completablefuture1 = chunkstatus.a(this.world, this.definedStructureManager, this.lightEngine, (ichunkaccess1) -> {
return this.c(playerchunk);
}, ichunkaccess);
}
return this.c(playerchunk);
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ya
slim nymph
then fuck yeah we can jump all those stages pretty easy now I see, if result from .f() is full, and desired ticket level is full,
do
this.chunkDistanceManager.a(TicketType.LIGHT, chunkcoordintpair, 33 + ChunkStatus.a(ChunkStatus.FEATURES), chunkcoordintpair);
Then call this.c(chunk)
oh and would need to set every statusFuture too
the result
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if we really wanna go go go fast we just need to eliminate the sync callbacks for most of the chunk statuses
you know most of them don't do anything but set status
although it really does mess with the big fucking future chain
ugh so dumb this system
we really do just need to rewrite this scheduling
that shit's for 1.16 though I ain't touching this on the last days of 1.15
also you got any better ideas for prioritising regionfile io on multiple threads that avoid contention?
so far my solution is just this
+ /* needs to be consistent given a set of parameters */
+ static RegionFileIOThread selectThread(final int chunkX, final int chunkZ, final RegionFileType type) {
+ final int regionX = chunkX >> 5;
+ final int regionZ = chunkZ >> 5;
+ final int typeOffset = type.ordinal();
+
+ final long value = (regionX & 0xFFFFFFFFL) + (regionZ & 0xFFFFFFFFL) + typeOffset;
+
+ return threads[(int)(threads.length % value) - 1];
+ }
and @celest coyote egarding my chunk counts:
yeah and it didnt, restart, log in center of village, immed 2.5k chunks
i was just thinking like 4 queues leaf and do x + z % 4 to pick a queue
but, im wondering if IO not being the best to parallelize in first place makes sense to have multiple IO queues, and instead try to get NBT deserialization off of IO and on chunk threads instead
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touching regionfile
slim nymph
compression+nbt i mean
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for nvme drives I think they can be used in parallel
and some ssds
although too many threads probably gonna kill latency
it'd be nice to move the deserial async but it has some issues with changes I have
async to the io thread that is
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as I have changes to force recalculate regionfiles when stuff like coordinates mismatch / invalid data
slim nymph
After optimizing on the application design and making it SSD-friendly, the throughput is increased to 100,000 qps, a 4x further improvement when compared with the naive SSD adoption. The secret for this particular example is using multiple concurrent threads to perform I/O. This takes advantage of the SSD’s internal parallelism (described later), as shown in the figure below. Note that multiple I/O threads do not work well with HDDs.
so we need a config for it
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ya
slim nymph
HDD's will die with it
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ye they'll get fucking nuked
slim nymph
i wasnt aware SSD's even had parallel, good to know. i thought it was faster purely due to seekless
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I think we can assume most people run ssds nowadays though
so keep the config at like 2 or 3 by dfl
slim nymph
that graph shows more threads didnt hit dimiishing returns fast at all
so maybe cpu count
but max 6
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I'm a bit worried about the high thread counts in general
we got a lot of gen threads, a lot of deserial/conversion threads, adding more io might be a bit of an oofers
slim nymph
yeah but IO isnt cpu intensive
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although I really wanna just merge deserial/conversion into gen
slim nymph
diff scope
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oh right
slim nymph
yeah i was thinking we could do that, but then 1 conversions gonna stall fuck out of server badly in worse ways than now
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but for nvme ssds my profiler told me half of the time was on decompression
slim nymph
thats why i also wanted to move that off of IO
moangs using 4k buffers now, ssd's have 4k pages
so it can read it in like a single request
since many chunks are 4k
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hm alright well I am rewriting the regionfile io thread
so I'll try and figure out a way to get compression off of it
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I only work on windows
vm environment is really really bad compared to windows
can't bench
slim nymph
so checkout paper on windows too?
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paper on windows is too slow
slim nymph
whats diff on your fork?
slim nymph
you know i pulled that patch right and cut like 70% of the time
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might be better
but I need a fast patch
tuinity being emc based has a dirty patch
but I moved it to being patch fast
slim nymph
? whats different
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not patching all spigot/cb
slim nymph
huh?
slim nymph
oh yeah. i really wanna move papers for that 😦
golden gust
basially the dirty patch we where talking about a goood while ago, only apply the paper patches vs the whole stack
slim nymph
but would have to get others being ok wit hit
slim nymph
hmm that could work, and PAPER_DEFAULT_FAST=1 😛
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but yeah paper scripts too slow for me on windows
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also I can't dev branch properly on paper
slim nymph
literally i dont know if any reason to not use fast outside of newbies checking out and not running up first
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as you guys don't have GH actions
slim nymph
or not rebuilding up on pulls
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so I'd need to manually build the jar and upload
tuinity has GH actions so it autobuilds on dev branches
slim nymph
well, i more meant do it in tuinity if you want, just dont go "lets put this dependent commit iinto utils patch" you sometimes do lol
which then cant just simply pull patch file
slim nymph
like your move stuff you put those new movement methods in there so cant easily port those
slim nymph
i wanted to get them from ya tomorrow though
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need to
slim nymph
and yeah big scope items should be their own ticket
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because merging from master -> dev gets difficult
slim nymph
my working dirs just been locked for past 5 days lol
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I threw the move stuff into master to make the merging easier
I also use those methods outside of the dev branch
some of them
slim nymph
btw, that sync load when async chunks is off, it didnt even occur to me what you meant was wrong with that until i relooked at it. i fixed it in this latest commit
about passing gen to "flag"
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probably gonna keep it :>
sync loading for async is not my kind of liking
in general
I plan on nuking getAsync methods too
slim nymph
though ugh now we just talked about diff of loadChunk that wasnt best for using it for that now i see
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I have other getAsync methods
they need to be merged into one
you can see one of them was one that had a gen flag
sour sierra
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but I can't replace the one we have due to something
was it abi or what I don't remember
oh right
I also need to add a mojang "loaded" flag
slim nymph
i did help plugins using paperlib for now though, by making .getChunkAtAsync API have a slight priority boost, so it wont be behind all chunks loading for player
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currently it has gen flag, and "bring up to ticket level" flag
yeah that api should do that
slim nymph
well we def need to use futures over callbacks
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callbacks are fine in my mind :>
slim nymph
it doesnt handle exceptions, and harder to chain
slim nymph
the current path i can at least say doesnt 'leak' exceptions
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the real reason I use callbacks is because the executing thread is always defined
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and it's easier to deal with callbacks as it prevents you from being a lazy fuck and chain chain chain
slim nymph
if you fire a callback in a futrues response, its still undefined
then javas gonna get async await in 15 years and we will still probably be here and your callbacks will suffer like eveyone on nodejs did
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although futures are nice in that they're easier to actually tell what executro to use
but for callbacks I always add some completablefuture method...
just gotta use biconsumer to pass the exception
slim nymph
just use futures, the main issue with them is mojang fucking up dropping exceptions, just dont fuck up and they work great
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too easy to forget they drop exceptions
slim nymph
and easy to do .join() too
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and by using a callback
we don't need to deal with it catching thread death
well that's why I provide future API
except for getchunkatasync, cuz the api was the future endpoint
in general completablefutures are a lot more complex than those callbacks
and have gotchas
I like to keep my threading simple
slim nymph
actually thats a good idea, we can intercept final response and catch thread death there
though the future fires on main, and main is dead
so no worries there lol
slim nymph
i meant in that its an ok thing
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keep them at the api level
slim nymph
the goal is to ensure no code can continue running
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should just spam stop until it dies tbh
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the double tap never fails
slim nymph
um, i tried /giphy big fucking guns. very sexual results ....
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good thing my email groups
slim nymph
oh man i havent even looked at my email
cosmic raft
lmao
slim nymph
14
cosmic raft
serves you right
twin lagoon
16 here
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also do you have any grudges against using an enum priority instead of int
slim nymph
least gmail stacks
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yeah I'm going that far into rewriting this
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well I added more
slim nymph
URGENT, NORMAL, LOW
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but the question is about enums vs raw int
slim nymph
i would prefer enum, you can use .id() to get numerical value
cosmic raft
SUPER_IMPORTANT, NORMAL, LOW_LIKE_LEAF
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kek yeah should do that
slim nymph
i tell you my brain is warped with the priority inversion
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fuck I fucked up so many impls thanks to that
slim nymph
mojang uses lower = higher too
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I remember when I initially wrote the damn thing
slim nymph
but in my code I least did higher = higher, 30 - priority
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setting to a higher priority broke the queue
because it had the wrong check and it refused to poll
in general moving a lot of stuff into the actual queue object now
i.e flush
and executeNext
slim nymph
what do yyou think about a chunk GC to go collect unloaded chunks that have no loaded neighbors
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definitely a scheduling rewrite thing
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well that's probably an error somewhere
slim nymph
the caches
slim nymph
agreed but i have no idea how
slim nymph
those partially genned chunks have high memory use
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yeah those too
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but it's definitely a scheduling issue
as we need to ensure it's not in use
and mojang doesn't even do that shit when unloading
slim nymph
but im also suspecting when we load full chunks, do we have proto chunks on all the previous futures?
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no, we don't load neighbours for full
except for the 1 radius for light
but yeah those proto take up memory
slim nymph
no i meant one that is actually at full
in memory dumps it seem,s like a lot of futures with ProtoChunks still
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oh
no there's no protochunk for the one on disk
unless you count protochunkextension
which is a read-only wrapper of Chunk
slim nymph
wht about frresh gen, id imagine on full, it should go overwrite all statusfutures to the latest state
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people gave me some dumps a while ago
slim nymph
i dont think it does that
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protochunkextension is the memory issue
slim nymph
yeah thats what ive seen
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we needa conditionally unload those fuckers
but can't due to scheduling issues
we dunno if a gen is in progress
slim nymph
well, we now have record of what neighbors are dependent on us now 😛
we do now
from my work
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not strictly
unless you fixed that
when a status is cancelled via ticket changes it just completes the future
so we can't use that to determine if it's not genning right now
slim nymph
if its cancelled its not needed?
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could be running
because mojang is real intelligent and doesn't actually prevent that
slim nymph
well if we do it as a main thread "task"
it guarantees the thread pool isnt operating on that chunk.
slim nymph
hmm, i guess my records are cleared when it finishes loading, not finish 'using'
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yeah this is a scheduler rewrite issue
slim nymph
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also adding
public PrioritisedTask poll(final Priority minPriority, final Priority maxPriority) {
``` to the rewriteshould make adding an urgent thread ez pz
slim nymph
you know something my version had would prob be good for you to do is .cancel() on tht returned object
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in general I'd prefer your entire old system compared to mojang's new
slim nymph
in my 1.13 system i held something like ka chunk holder of pending loads, and could abort them when you leave view distance
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we could add on entity ticking etc easy
without the 10000 issues of this new dumb system
slim nymph
im worried the mailbox system makes my old one not possible
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if we touch the scheduler
slim nymph
too much back to main to mutate state
quartz peak
SO found out i can make a GTA server as well after looking at the FiveM site fuck me im getting too deep into the hosting server life 
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I really don't want to figure that system out tbh
slim nymph
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too damn complex
slim nymph
see that empty method on 454
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u cut the lines
slim nymph
ffs
ChunkMapDistance.this.k.a(ChunkTaskQueueSorter.a(() -> { // CraftBukkit - decompile error
}, i, false));
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but yeah I see the empty callback
idk wtf that shit does
I think it kills the task
slim nymph
that like "clears the queue"
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yeah
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although when I copied the code
literal copy paste job on that method
it didn't throttle
slim nymph
its actually not a throttle
slim nymph
its a priority, it uses the priority flag based on distance to nearest player
j = dist to player
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but doesn't that schedule set priority?
slim nymph
so 0 distance = urgent
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ya so idk how it failed to throttle...
that thing there handles throttling from my testing
slim nymph
well it throtttles in sense of ensuring closer chunks are higher priority than farther chunks
when you have tons of players on
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well throttle as in rate
slim nymph
the farther are behind the queue from each players nearest
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it added in the order just fine
but it just did all of them at once...
so idk man I don't wanna touch a system like that
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especially if we can write something simple using the tools we already have
slim nymph
yeah i think best to make entire own class
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send order was great in tuinity
slim nymph
client bugs out so fucking bad
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except for the fact it sent all at once
slim nymph
what did you do for send?
slim nymph
another thing i want to try to do is if any chunk is at urgent level, "re-enqueue" any non urgent dependent chunk task when it tries to run
slim nymph
to keep the threads free
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we can probably deal with that by design if we use our own queue
as it'll just hook raisePriority or whatever I called it
slim nymph
switch to internal for sec
queen rapids
aww
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aikar leaked channel names again
obsidian belfry
olive marlin
Discord shows everyone all channels through API - just hides in the client ones you don't have access to.
short yarrow
do you guys create your own gitignore or use a more exhaustive gitignore from https://github.com/github/gitignore or somewhere else
olive marlin
I have simple git alias that downloads gitignore from gitignore.io
git aliases | grep ^ignore
ignore !gi() { curl -sL "https://www.gitignore.io/api/${*}" >> .gitignore ;}; gi
.idea/
.gradle/
build/
``` the only one youll ever need for gradle shit What about !gradle-wrapper.jar - since you usually have *.jar ignored too.
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no
only those 3
if you use intellijs build or eclipse or smth, i do not care about your contributions to my repos if you somehow manage to commit their shit
quartz peak
There a reason why MineOS is a thing? Wouldnt it be better to just run Ubuntu?
twin lagoon
it would indeed be better to just use your preferred distro
quartz peak
I really wonder how light is ubuntu is compared to windows.
fierce wedge
Let's put these new chunk changes up against PlotSquared in a bit 👀
Appreciate the work either way aikar
short yarrow
maven is hard :(. I don't understand the build section at all
olive garden
you will get there
short yarrow
Alright so I managed to compile my project. Anyone know how I would include a dependency in my jar?
olive garden
do you just want to depend on something (eg. paper api) or actually include it in the jar (eg. PaperLib, which should be shaded)?
if you actually want to include it, then look for these keywords: shade plugin, shading, uber jar
short yarrow
actually include
olive garden
relocation
short yarrow
oh okay that's what shading does
olive garden
you might want to ask any further questions in #paper-dev in case someone gets triggered by this misuse of #general
short yarrow
well it's just a general question. I'm not working on minecraft stuff
unreal quarry
It's actually called shadowing. It puts a copy in your jar. Maven's plugin for shadowing is called shade. You'll want to relocate anything you shadow in case something else has shadowed a different version.
short yarrow
Oh okay. I'm a bit confused about the relocating part though
unreal quarry
Relocation just puts your copy in a different package, so differing versions don't collide
Let's say another plugin shadows an older (or newer) lib that you shadow, and it loaded first. When your plugin tries to use that lib it will error because of the version mismatch (methods change between versions, etc). The jvm won't load both versions, only the first one it needed
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just relocate in native source and compile & package that :p
short yarrow
is there a naming scheme for the destination package? or can it just be a random package name
limber knotBOT
or lol.x.d
short yarrow
👍
limber knotBOT
what if someone has 2 plugins of yours that both shade the same lib but with different versions? :p
limber knotBOT
oh Im guilty of that too, I shade it before the plugin name package as well
olive garden
😠
limber knotBOT
if you had 2 plugins on Github/spigot/whatever that both used the same libs, they would still clash
ah okay
blame the cutoff
sounds reasonable
golden gust
well, it's the obfuscators that do that cancer
limber knotBOT
the snowmen are still the best tho
short yarrow
So I'm using travis ci for the first time. Is there any specific I have to do in the .travis.yml for my project to build?
limber knotBOT
depends with what jdk and whatever you want to build
else language and jdk fields are enough
and 'dist' I think? not sure if that defaults
wide chasm
Pretty sure dist defaults. I think even just a language is good enough in some cases.
limber knotBOT
got a project with 420, never to be updated again
or rather a fork updated somewhere else now
fallen oracle
Very nice
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get it to 6969 kenny
limber knotBOT
alright see you when I'm 69
ah the 420 commit was also removing lombok from the project, so that was a doubled yeet
sharp sentinel
Ughhh I hate making Spigot bug reports
It's always a bad time
Anyone got the output of latest Spigot version's /version by chance lol?
Last I checked they close issues with Paper listed, and BuildTools doesn't work for me
uncut moss
nobody here uses spigot 
void void
mnyeah but if you work on a plugin where you kinda want to have spigot support
WorldEdit/Guard in his case
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essentials actually i believe
heady spear
just write "aight listen up here yer kangaroo fecker, if ye don't fix this ASAP I'll make me plugin Paper only"
heady spear
oh wait I forgot you're also a kangaroo fucker
damnit
why is everyone Australian D:
minor badge
ahh i forgot making my jenkins archive the artifacts for spigot
vestal jasper
city you'd fuck your monitor if it had a hole in the middle of it
green turret
Does Paper also have that stupid-as-shit "max max health" thing Spigot does?
minor badge
probably yes
sharp sentinel
Does Spigot actually have unit tests or something
I never thought about that
But with the amount they break, I'd be shocked if they did
minor badge
dunno if i understand exactly what u want tho
minor badge
they've got tests for like the most useless of things
sharp sentinel
Ah, yes. The "Yeah we have tests" kind of tests. The ones that just check the metric of having tests
green turret
Ahahah
potent fossil
umbrella academy very interesting...
vernal moth
there are some unit tests
like to check that bukkit and server interfaces are mirrors
or like my amazing unit test for the mob goal api 😄
that checks that all vanilla goals are in the api
sharp sentinel
See now that sounds like a useful unit test
https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-5751 But like this issue is 100% one that's not dependent on MC behaviour, just Spigot stuff. So unit tests would've picked it up
olive marlin
We have tests. They just are not implemented.
void void
in other words
potent fossil
You've heard of TDD? Now get ready for P2GDD. Pray 2 God Driven Development.
fallen oracle
What
sharp sentinel
What
vestal jasper
What
short yarrow
well I'm extremely upset. I lost one of my airpods
sharp sentinel
On the bright side you can now experience mono-channel music in the way it was intended to be heard
void void
i think the best kind of wireless is the one where theres still a wire between the 2 earbuds
merry talon
if you move the one back in forth into each ear 24 times a second you cant perceive any difference
limber knotBOT
just link the pods with a cable so you won't lose them again!
void void
just by cheap stuff so that it won't matter!
minor badge
kennytv more like stinkytb
void void
children
gleaming rivet
Who do you guys use for graphical work like banners icon and such?
woven otter
Kenny more like upside down guy
void void
ourselves, a friend or i dunno, fiver maybe
gleaming rivet
I don't trust fiver that much
gleaming rivet
What a solution
limber knotBOT
still upsidedownist I see >:(
gleaming rivet
Nirvana more like closetbully >:c
limber knotBOT
that's the wrong upsidedown
fallen oracle
Oh
magic ice
tight dagger
limber knotBOT
updating
scarlet vale
lusty umbra
can any one help
limber knotBOT
did you try googling?
potent fossil
that wouldn't be upgrading, it would be just converting the map.
this is paper help, not general mc support
lusty umbra
yes
limber knotBOT
even nvidia has a conversion guide, just know how to use google lol
potent fossil
.g minecraft java world to bedrock
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/minecraft-rtx-world-conversion-guide/ -- Minecraft World Conversion Guide, For Bedrock and Minecraft...: "Apr 16, 2020 ... Follow our unofficial Minecraft with RTX guide to convert your Minecraft Java worlds to Minecraft Windows 10 Bedrock edition,..."
potent fossil
limber knotBOT
wasn't that hard was it haha
lusty umbra
i got banned from there when i asked that
limber knotBOT
you were banned from google?
potent fossil
lusty umbra
no minecraft discord
potent fossil
i highly doubt the official MC discord banned you for asking
theres more context you're conveniently leaving out
limber knotBOT
legitimately can't tell if too young, foreign, or retarded
lusty umbra
retarded
fallen oracle
Does anyone actually watch The Great British Baking show or do you turn it on in the background to fall asleep to
void void
I used to, cos there was nothing else on
vital arrow
@fallen oracle that is my life right now
austere ivy
Britain's Smallest Pies?
lusty umbra
if i give you the map will you convert it from java to windows 10
twin lagoon
no
void void
(DiscordBot) https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/minecraft-rtx-world-conversion-guide/ -- Minecraft World Conversion Guide, For Bedrock and Minecraft...: "Apr 16, 2020 ... Follow our unofficial Minecraft with RTX guide to convert your Minecraft Java worlds to Minecraft Windows 10 Bedrock edition,..."
lusty umbra
its to hard\
twin lagoon
not really
just follow the tutorial
it's fairly clear
there's probably a youtube video
lusty umbra
i need a video expaining how to do it
vernal moth
I'll convert your java world to bedrock for 1 0 bucks
twin lagoon
mini 
vernal moth
For you it's 15 Michael!
granite salmon
ill do it for 9.99
pulsar wigeon
.-.
golden gust
Man's gotta refill his crates
granite salmon
4.99
void void
4.98
pulsar wigeon
smh my head
granite salmon
4.98 = low quality
vernal moth
I would just use chunker because am lazy like that
lusty umbra
ok
twin lagoon
those are the perks mini
that is living the dream
i should probably sign up for it too
vernal moth
Exactly 😂
lusty umbra
i'll pay $5
limber knotBOT
waddafuq
void void
i'll take 5 bitcoin
limber knotBOT
just go and read the article, or any other thing you find on google
twin lagoon
^
void void
^^
vernal moth
--->
limber knotBOT
just go and read the article, or any other thing you find on google
void void
W
limber knotBOT
now you still pointed to the message, mini, hah!
vernal moth
No I didn't
peak dirge
Okay, now to convert this in-memory world crud to direct buffers
worn pasture
void void
kicked?
pulsar wigeon
k banned i guess
void void
wait so can we ping wiz in case of moderation needed and everyone else is dead?
latent valve
do it then finger cross and prey
void void
good stef 👍
gleaming rivet
Why don't they give him a role and disable ping for that role?
twin lagoon
you can't
fierce wedge
you can
twin lagoon
no
limber knotBOT
you can't
twin lagoon
you can't turn off pings for yourself
golden gust
you can't
twin lagoon
only for roles
fierce wedge
you can turn off pings for yourself
twin lagoon
no
austere ivy
is plugin.yml re-read on reload?
fierce wedge
in notification settings
golden gust
tell us how
twin lagoon
golden gust
That doesn't stop the ping
pulsar wigeon
we've been over this shit a million times
void void
notifications is something different
pulsar wigeon
please stop being retarded thanks
fierce wedge
if a little red button annoys you then it's a separate issue
void void
^^
golden gust
The noise is only part of it
pulsar wigeon
also yes, he's banned because he decided that https://i.imgur.com/hlaqWFv.png would be hilarious
austere ivy
wrong channel whoops
golden gust
The annoying unread thing and the fact that it still highlights text is annoying af
fierce wedge
that seems to be a you problem
void void
agreed
twin lagoon
it's pretty annoying actually
fierce wedge
noise and some highlight are very difference
austere ivy
isn't turbotailz the luckperms web developer?
twin lagoon
yes
void void
its very annoying
limber knotBOT
that's not a "you" problem
twin lagoon
it does get pretty annoying
limber knotBOT
that's a problem, period
void void
same with how discord blocking is shit
golden gust
at least for me, the coloring of the highlights makes it harder to read
fierce wedge
I mean if wiz didn't get so annoyed by people doing it... people wouldn't do it
pulsar wigeon
dor, it's about to be a you problem if you want to argue about it
fierce wedge
devil's advocate
golden gust
Which, you know...
limber knotBOT
you seem to be the only one not thinking that dordsor
pulsar wigeon
no, being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole isn't welcome behavior
twin lagoon
there's various opinions on how wizjany handles annoying fuckers that ping him
but in the end
pinging him knowingly for no reason just to bother him is just retarded
fierce wedge
I mean is it childish? Sure. Does it mean you need to get that annoyed be it? Absolutely not.
void void
don't think dord knows who wiz is
limber knotBOT
you clearly aren't getting pinged enough =^]
graceful jasper
fierce wedge
I know exactly who wiz is
pulsar wigeon
alright seriously this isn't up for debate
pulsar wigeon
dunno why we're arguing about this
vernal moth
its just a meme
void void
unless moderation is needed
vernal moth
dont ping the wiz!
viral hornet
😂
fierce wedge
It's poking the bear isn't it. People poke him cos it annoys him and they find it funny.
void void
thats why they get banned
viral hornet
gleaming rivet
limber knotBOT
I don't like you then
limber knotBOT
and non idiots alike
pulsar wigeon
lmao he kicked me from IS
viral hornet
Did dordsor21 just get yeeted as well? :cold_swet
limber knotBOT
lol
gleaming rivet
That fawe thing
void void
international space obv
limber knotBOT
that fawe p2 thing
twin lagoon
wiz confirmed terrorist
fierce wedge
viral hornet
Wb
red imp
fierce wedge
I banned you from IS cos I'm tired of you wiz
twin lagoon
boo hoo
fierce wedge
You've never offered anything useful there anyway
latent valve
void void
oh he was only kicked 😢
viral hornet
Michael r u ok
twin lagoon
amazing actually @viral hornet thank you
twin lagoon
i am watching cowchop
viral hornet
you weren't
twin lagoon
eating peanuts
limber knotBOT
wat no you don't, viper
twin lagoon
watching paper drama
pulsar wigeon
1.8-1.12 support completions too
viral hornet
Paper drama is always exciting
limber knotBOT
just don't use brigadier?
void void
1.12 has tab completition does it not
pulsar wigeon
it's just an ugly list in chat
instead of the nice new ui
yea i mean, don't activate features on unsupported platforms
ezpz
limber knotBOT
imagine removing features because of outdated versions :aaa:
just give commands their proper perms
gleaming rivet
Please tie completions to the permission for the love of god
golden gust
vanilla isn't really designed around sub permissions
minor badge
step 1, use acf
step 2, it handles it for you so profit
austere ivy
if you're going to be doing anything other than a couple non-nested commands, or maybe one or two one-level nested commands, go ahead and use Bukkit's system or whatever
but I'm telling you now, you will go insane if you try to deal with Bukkit's outdated insanity
that seems nice too
no idea how to use it
wanna know a secret?
they don't
what's actually happening behind the scenes, is every time the plugin checks permissions, it zooms it over to Lucko's computer and he checks your permission settings and the permission needed
jade mountain
I can confirm this is true
waxen panther
peak dirge
Going to be reading this alternate history, hope it's interesting. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0861Y8ZCF/ref=pe_385040_118058080_TE_M1DP
wraith grail
vernal moth
any body here using fabric?
how can I run a fabric client from IJ with debugging that actually hot swapps?
if I launch via gradle it doesnt seems to hotswap
now it did
strange
pulsar wigeon
they come with a run config
i forget the task name but it gens a client and server config
vernal moth
runClient
pulsar wigeon
yea i guess
main rapids
I've never seen the map from that side, the number of villages on the map is impressive
main rapids
cool, I didn't know that
i'm not used to playing with a worldmap or having a dynmap
limber knotBOT
try AMIDST ;)
main rapids
I used mineAtlas but it didn't appear that much 😂
void void
huh, i've never played with a world map or dynmap
then again i can count servers i play on one 1 finger
twin lagoon
in general the amount of villages in a snowy biome like that
is insane
i've come across so many of them when i was playing on an smp a few months ago
void void
dungeons are way too common tbh
twin lagoon
i've come across 3 dungeons in the last 6 years maybe
void void
always at least 1 or 2 in your area
twin lagoon
ok but that's literally cheating
void void
it's allowed where i play on, anarchy
void void
true
gleaming rivet
i find alot of dungeons in spectator 
uncut moss
i find a lot of dungeons with xray
void void
uses xray
queen bluff
uncut moss
yeah why wouldn't i
twin lagoon
307 is good barty
void void
poor dynmap
ruby stratus
le'ts move ehre
void void
?
ruby stratus
from #paper-help
peak dirge
Big Linux conversation in #paper-help moving here as it's the offtopic channel
limber knotBOT
using dynmap lmao
twin lagoon
rest bad
peak dirge
But yeah, I'm 90% Linux-only now. Not in school now, so make that 100% Linux usage.
twin lagoon
i have an issue with arch right now actually
keyboard doesn't respond after x minutes
limber knotBOT
Overviewer
ruby stratus
I specifically asked you not to.
twin lagoon
dynmap doesn't hurt performance that much
ruby stratus
you can have dynmap without the dynamic map aspect
limber knotBOT
that much
ok so how do I render dynmap on a different machine than my Minecraft server is on? 
twin lagoon
you don't
scarlet knoll
limber knotBOT
see
twin lagoon
well actually
ruby stratus
Only thing I really care about is
- Map that's kinda recent (a week old is completely fine)
- Player position
- Warps / homes
twin lagoon
you can
ruby stratus
I could do that in overviewer but no htanks
limber knotBOT
then just render overviewer once a week ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ruby stratus
ok so how do I render dynmap on a different machine than my Minecraft server is on?
@mystic peak616#0000
Easy...
limber knotBOT
I do it once at night because more is just not worth it
also can you render multiple different server to the same website with dynmap?
twin lagoon
no iframes are scuffed
ruby stratus
hell no
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
wat
limber knotBOT
wait, it uses a database for file storage? Oo
twin lagoon
it can yeah
limber knotBOT
I hope it's mongo or redis, lol
limber knotBOT
wtf
twin lagoon
also why the fuck would it use redis
