you only can get how much they have right now
#general
vernal moth
potent fossil
yeah, i know hence why im already designing the db
void void
use postgres and timescaledb ;))
vernal moth
yeah, was about to say, use a time based db
potent fossil
but im stuck on the design choice on whether or not i just periodically snapshot their stats from bukkit and put in my db
i dont need fluid timing like that
vernal moth
you push every event
potent fossil
it would be snapshot at a particular time, which i know
vernal moth
we do that at dyescape too
potent fossil
then i look back at it
vernal moth
whatever happens on the server, we just push an event to the db
void void
ooor if you don't care about HA, could even use InfluxDB
vernal moth
I dont even know what our backend is
void void
you'll see it being more recommended around the internetz
potent fossil
actually, preferably i need to work with mysql as this will be a public resource
vernal moth
I just push to some http api, lol
potent fossil
so that's my constraint
void void
you'd only want to store it when stuff changes right, because a lot ofthe stats dont change often
green turret
Influx is neat.
potent fossil
hm well
vernal moth
ah we use influx, yes
void void
but yeah i'd go with timescaledb; sits neatly on top of postgres
green turret
Has a lot of really weird quirks though.
void void
you'll get the power of proper sql dialect
potent fossil
okay. i know what ill do, i'll just build a snapshotting system snapshot when needed and just compare snapshots
shouldn't be hard
green turret
See you in a week!
void void
lul
void void
also; graphql thing doers
what do you use to do queries
besides curl
graphql-apollo has this neat playground
but i don't use graphql-apollo this time, not on nodejs ecosystem
spice finch
https://gyazo.com/08694f33558612c56c4ee699d89d8d92
Smells like electron 
void void
yes
green turret
I tried out Timescale vs. Influx a while back. Timescale was pretty slow at aggregating large ranges for some reason. Influx is super fast. And it shifts by timezone offsets pretty neatly as well.
void void
used their tuning prog too to get some config parameters correct?
green turret
Although there's this really strange bug around transitions that you have to be aware of. Man did we spend a long time on that.
Nah, just OOB'ed it. I needed something that worked, not something I needed to invest a month of tweaking.
potent fossil
fucking bukkit won't just give me a "Statistics" object...of course not. gotta fucking loop all Statistic and getStatistic N times
im disgusted
vestal jasper
bukkit
sane design
choose one
green turret
Yeah, hold on
I made a big ol' reproduction post.
They have this fucking stale bot that keeps closing the issue though.
spice finch
mmm Go-based db?
green turret
Yep
short yarrow
I'm officially done with college! I had anxiety for a week waiting to see if I passed gym class 😆
green turret
There's also this really annoying thing where you can't use different time filters in subqueries. If you do SELECT * FROM (SELECT * FROM m WHERE time > now() - 3h) WHERE time < now() - 30m, the inner time bit will just be ignored.
void void
man timezones are bitch to get right
i have this vote thing
sec
standalone Votifier server, pushes votes to psql/timescaledb
this api output is generated using PostgREST
if i unset timezone
then voted_today breaks into 8th dimension
green turret
Tell me about it. We had a huge infinite loop issue right around DST this year because the guy who wrote this bucket filling logic didn't test on a real system. "Works on my machine" badge right there.
void void
lmao
so basically PGTZ=Europe/Tallinn
and shit's fixed
literally stayed awake and was spam refreshing the browser
worn quail
void void
to see if voted_today is fixed
green turret
Ahhhhh, so annoying
void void
that sql query is total abomination as well
sec
fuck no idea where it is
that's probably up to date
green turret
Hahah
green turret
'1 month - 1 second' yikes
void void
but how else would you get voters of last month
i had weird issue when i dropped that
sometimes i think that it'd be probably easier to calculate this client side
green turret
I think the solution is to never work with time series data. Ever. Just only make Paper frontend designs. Then the worst thing you'll have to deal with is a hostile MiniDigger.
Why would you do something like that?
void void
don't you have anything else to do
green turret
Yeah, what the hell man
void void
shaking my smh furiously
potent fossil
what the
vestal jasper
wtf viper
granite salmon
smh my head
green turret
MY LAUNDRY
rich tiger
green turret
It was done. Now it's hanging.
void void
wow
olive garden
good
void void
that's dark
olive garden
they deserve to be hanged
void void
||so do u for ur lambdas||
olive garden
capitalist pigs
green turret
garbagemule, bird harasser, laundry murderer
olive garden
oh mikro, thanks for reminding me how much I love you
green turret
Did you make bad lambdas?
void void
😚
olive garden
I applied an IntelliJ refactoring on Slimefun to convert all anonymous inner classes to lambdas as a joke
void void
nohomo tho
olive garden
this guy found a very ugly file in that PR and posted it on /r/badcode
green turret
Oh no!
vestal jasper
if it's the one with 50 nested anonymous inner classes
olive garden
I know, right?
void void
yeah compile time ugliness got shifted to runtime ugliness
vestal jasper
some other dude's PR for it did tho 
void void
l m a o
trig sucks to be you
got put up publicly for doing bad code, and yours didn't even get accepted
olive garden
wow, I guess I am just a complete loser when it comes to that PR
vestal jasper
olive garden
omg
void void
lean turret
olive garden
I commented on it
green turret
Okay holy crap
vestal jasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ when someone asks for 1.8 support
green turret
Wtf why does is nest so much
I thought I could avoid scrolling horizontally by just maximizing the window, but Github has a fixed width...
olive garden
oh, it is very personal
vestal jasper
I'm not making very good use of minimessage, time to change that
void void
meh, i can delete that reddit post if that makes you happy
potent fossil
um ok sponge javadoc are down
vernal moth
They were optional anyways
Heh
See what I did there?
It's funny cause sponge uses optionals
And no server use sponge
potent fossil
well i wanted to look at how they do statistics
they would support all the ones in paper right? just named differently
void void
vestal jasper
Mini reeeeeeeee hover events are fucked
oh ok apparently hover:show_text requires a color
olive garden
😠
twin lagoon
@slim nymph your chunk improvements are even better now
i can literally generate chunks w/ speed 10
lilac gazelle
Hi ! i need help, wich is best for a survival server 1.12 ver or 1.13 ver
limber knotBOT
1.15 ver
lilac gazelle
thinking to make it handle like 50 players.
twin lagoon
1.15 should be fine then
lilac gazelle
you think it can handle 50 players, using 5gb ram, and 20-30 plugins??
potent fossil
on 1.15?
lilac gazelle
yeah
potent fossil
doubtful
granite salmon
i run my servers on 1MB of ram
potent fossil
if you plan to use aikar's flags, be aware you need to plan for giving the jvm ~1.5gb overhead, so if you want your server to have 6gb you need a 7.5gb (round to 8)...and so on
lilac gazelle
aikar´s flags its meant to do what? optimisatize the server perfomance?
potent fossil
in short, yes
lilac gazelle
so lets saying that i use aikar´s flags with a 8gb server with a paper 1.15 translate that in players that can handle
lilac gazelle
Intel Xeon E3-1275v5
DDR4 @ 2133Mhz ECC
RAID-1 SATA SSD
1Gbit Multi-blend
twin lagoon
that's not true
short yarrow
is 1.15 really that bad performance wise?
twin lagoon
well, low-end & outdated xeons are
but there's plenty of xeons in the e3 series that are decent
e.g. e3-1270v6
fiery dragon
limber knotBOT
e3-1245v2 is still okay-ish
especially if you don't plan to have tons of players on one server
short yarrow
anyone got a good headset recommendation? idk if I should get hyperx or razer
limber knotBOT
get good headphone + a modmic
twin lagoon
that is the ideal solution yes
way too expensive for most though
get yourself the coolermaster mh751 or mh752
cooler master > hyperx > the rest
short yarrow
really? wouldn't expect cm to be up there
twin lagoon
mh751 / 752's are fantastic
limber knotBOT
I use a "studio" microphone on an arm + wireless sennheiser ones. no cables! <3
twin lagoon
.g z reviews mh751
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left swift
What sennheiser headset do u have Phoenix I've been interested in getting a wireless one
limber knotBOT
HDR 127
left swift
Lol
golden gust
saying that, I had the HD206, needed headphones and noticed the whole "good brand" and the fact that they where cheap af
Best headphones I've ever used, tbqh
limber knotBOT
HDR 127 takes two standard AAA batteries or accus which is one of the reasons I bought them
but I haven't had issues with the battery life in the couple years I used them so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ornate ore
modest venture
ornate spindle
@slim nymph future builds? I use the Jenkins API for checking if there's been a new successful build so it isn't me
hallow arch
lilac pendant
void void
the what
potent fossil
jesusislesbian
potent fossil
void void
potent fossil
cunning raft
how
potent fossil
potent fossil
waxen panther
cunning raft
how
waxen panther
potent fossil
peak dirge
I tried parsing the CSS by running an MD5 hash against it and loading it into my kernel driver
waxen panther
I prefer parsing css with bukkit FileConfigurations personally
void void
peak dirge
It worked on my PowerPC ThinkPad running Windows NT 4.0, but it did not work on my TempleOS workstation
I am scared to try it on Xenix on my 386
waxen panther
peak dirge
waxen panther
I’m sure Terry would’ve been able to do it
waxen panther
🙏
potent fossil
Will never forget him
waxen panther
I like putting his 3 hour monologues on in the background when I’m doing something
fleet fog
void void
hm my javas acting up, it can't find println
spice finch
if using intellij
check your project structure
and make sure you have selected right JDK
if it won't work invalidate cache & restart
void void
tried all of that
potent fossil
try not being a noob
void void
oh i was an idiot nvm
potent fossil
azure trout
green frost
waxen panther
Works everytime
sinful dust
modest gorge
is there a way to have the server stop when paper captures errors like these; https://hasteb.in/sihareqe.md it just stays up, the server isn't responsive or playable, and because it never shuts down my auto-reboot can't work
modest gorge
hmm ok
heady spear
also those are not errors
modest gorge
I know they're not paper errors
heady spear
why is the crate plugin creating sql connections synchronously D:
modest gorge
but something is clearly broken when that happens
jagged egret
they aren't errors, they're stack traces which show what is freezing the server
peak dirge
and in this case, you have an awful crates plugin doing an awful thing like locking up the main thread querying MySQL
modest gorge
right something is flubbing in their sql connect code, it didn't do that locally
heady spear
it did
pulsar wigeon
lmao
modest gorge
I mean it didn't freeze us
peak dirge
solution is to tell the author to fix their broken plugin
pulsar wigeon
it's not flubbing
modest gorge
the bad code was bad
jagged egret
where is your mysql server run? also there's likely much more load on your production server
modest gorge
my mysql is run on our dedicated
heady spear
also it shouldn't take 10 seconds either wya what's up with that
fallen oracle
Morning
modest gorge
I've already reported this to them. I assumed it was failing to connect or something
void void
mornin, or rather afternoon
jagged egret
ah hmm then it could have to do with a poorly configured firewall or excessive player load (for this method of querying a DB, which is in no way acceptable)
To me it does look like it's failing to connect at least once, which would explain why it's entering the Thread.sleep
fallen oracle
Main thread SQL? 😳
modest gorge
don't think it's the firewall but not sure, this happened when the server booted up after adding this plugin so zero players
jagged egret
Don't believe so, and it looks like they're opening a new connection every time they load a player
which I could be wrong about but either way their code is horrible
modest gorge
they only use mysql for one single table and default to flatfile so I'll just stop using their db feature
heady spear
Might be that the connection has closed down and they're trying to re-open it
wich would make sense
jagged egret
honestly I'd be wary about using that whole plugin
heady spear
but still y is it running on the server thread
jagged egret
if they handle databases so poorly I can't imagine the rest of the codebase is very nice
modest gorge
ok I'll pass these onto the dev, paraphrased
red imp
Guys how could I fix moving healths and armor slots from one server to another? I have bungee and when I switch server... health and armor slots stuck on previous servers datas
twin lagoon
@peak dirge considering you're here already
how good will velocity run on a cheap vps?
how much memory & cpu does it use on avg?
peak dirge
the only information I can volunteer without more details about your setup is "probably a helluva lot better than BungeeCord with the same specs"
jagged egret
you'd have to have something re-send the https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Entity_Properties packet I believe @red imp
peak dirge
share more specs
twin lagoon
uh
dunno wtf OVH uses on their VPS line nowadays
let's just say, a 6700k
2 cores
player base of about ~500, 1 velocity proxy
fallen oracle
Is it the same connection each time? Just pool damnit
peak dirge
2 cores of a 6700k and 500 players. That's going to be a tight fit but should work in theory. You really want to try for all cores/threads if you can, realistically.
twin lagoon
alright
jagged egret
hypothetically, would it be possible to write a custom ClassLoader which would return objects like NMSClass extends Class and override the getField, getConstructor, getMethod, etc. methods to allow plugins running on the existing NMS mappings to run on the Mojang mappings
fallen oracle
Idk what I have to do to add velocity support to it
Can I compile the same jar for bungee and velocity or do I have do module it?
twin lagoon
@peak dirge ram isn't an issue on velocity right?
golden gust
moduling is generally encouraged
twin lagoon
just heavy focus on CPU
peak dirge
Velocity implements a totally different API @fallen oracle
golden gust
that way you won't be able to do stuff like using velocity code on bungee by accident, etc
fallen oracle
Yeah I'll just zip 2 jars together in the file I upload then
peak dirge
@twin lagoon RAM usage is going to be less than BungeeCord, but you'll still want to ensure you don't overprovision.
As for the OVH VPS lineup, I believe it's Cascade Lake processors. So you're getting 2 cores of a server-grade CPU, so don't expect great single-thread performance.
fallen oracle
So could I make a common package and just make interfaces then so I don't have to directly write the same code 2 times? Or is it just better to deal with it? It's only like 10 classes.
peak dirge
The highest-end chips Intel supplies for hyperscalers top out at 3GHz clocks and probably require high-end server-grade cooling or water cooling.
Sauce: Needed to provision an extremely large c5 instance on AWS once
somber basalt
peak dirge
tl;dr: try and get more cores
peak dirge
that being said, we've done 300 successfully on DigitalOcean 4vCPU dedicated droplets (though there is a high cost thanks to our favorite speculative execution vulnerabilities)
void void
Because I want to start coding, and had an interest in code for over 5 years, but it's made so goalless
When I tried Swift Playgrounds on my Mac it was easy, but also fun and challenging
The goal was to get the avatar to the other place using real code.
There is no real goal in exercises on e.g. codecademy.
anyone that has advice for me? Highly appreciated :)
fallen oracle
There's not a specific Linux flavor that makes dev environment either more than the next one, right? I was just going to go with Debian or Ubuntu
twin lagoon
arch 
twin lagoon
try pop!_os @fallen oracle
fallen oracle
Interesting
twin lagoon
fallen oracle
Yeah I had arch on my surface pro for a bit
waxen panther
golden gust
billys typing speeds up
unreal quarry
@fallen oracle no, it doesnt matter which distro you use. in the end, they're all the same thing. the biggest difference between distros is the package management suites (apt, yum, etc)
fallen oracle
Ahh
twin lagoon
yay
golden gust
general gist is stick to something people care about
worn inlet
fallen oracle
Lmao
golden gust
as much as you reaaaaally wanna
fallen oracle
NO FUCKING WAY
void void
i'm just 2 forks deep
fallen oracle
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waxen panther
Yeah who would use forks
void void
there was also this very racist distro iirc
waxen panther
Ammirite papermc
void void
watermelon os or something
um watermelon os is another custom os project
nvm it wasn't called like that even remotely
just hungry for a nice juicy watermelon
GNAA on wikipedia tells you more about it lol
nsfw
yep very nsfw
do it noballs
do a backup disk image of it and then go ham
mortal zinc
paper, and all other software will not be able to provide every use case a developer needs, so it's for that reason that forks exist
and a reason I forked paper when switching my server software from CraftBukkit to Paper
obsidian crater
I’m preparing of the next few Minecraft releases
mortal zinc
@obsidian crater are you a server host?
obsidian crater
No, just work in a datacenter
obsidian crater
Primarily on highly scalable sql databases
obsidian crater
Have one that runs across 300 servers
golden gust
That's not webscale thou?
mortal zinc
i hope it's easy to maintain that scale...
mortal zinc
oh for sure
what kind of business are you maintaining the datacenter for?
rather, is this datacenter for a minecraft server host? or what is it for?
left swift
I buy my generic tech from that company all the time
obsidian crater
@left swift you and half the world lol
left swift
I am half the world
golden gust
u got ur own orbit
obsidian crater
.diet
left swift
Send it in the mail
obsidian crater
Paper needs a patreon
main rapids
how to contribute to the paper through picpay?
left swift
U can donate through github iirc
main rapids
picpay*** 😅
obsidian crater
Is that some kind of onlyfans type of thing? 🤣
golden gust
there is a link on the jenkins, click the "more" button on the downloads page
obsidian crater
Patreon would be cool because then you could make the $1000 a month tier get paper-1000.jar
I know you are hiding it from us
left swift
I'm still mad they skipped 69
obsidian crater
I’m not updating my server until they release 420
main rapids
there is a link on the jenkins, click the "more" button on the downloads page
How to donate through picpay? I have no card.
left swift
Fax
obsidian crater
First buy a carrier pigeon
Tie the money to its foot, and make sure it can find its way out of whatever cave you are hiding in
modest gorge
anyone know a good RTP plugin that could possibly use papers async chunk loads? I use BetterRTP and it's always red in our timings for calling sync chunk loads. we also suspect that several jumps in a row are the causes of lag/crashes
obsidian crater
I just make my players run 10k blocks
modest gorge
I can't be sure but we seem to crash quite often after someone does like 10 rtp in row. it's always this error https://hasteb.in/ritidiko.bash
modest gorge
granted 300ms isn't awful but the timings a red https://i.imgur.com/jUiYa8Y.png
golden gust
that's a known vanilla issue
modest gorge
the cooldown is already on, set to 10. not sure what 10 is, seconds?
golden gust
Basically, mojangs lighting stuff is known to blow up \o/
golden gust
2 secons of looking at that plugin screams "avoid"
it's in vanilla
Just, worth noting that spigot is stupid and strips it down and relocates it
spigot 10/10 gg
blazing nebula
just spent an hour trying to get my jvm working when I was using java -v instead of java -version the whole time ughhhh
obsidian crater
Classic
worthy zenith
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
void void
are you serious
#You also agree that tacos are tasty, and the best food in the world.
twin lagoon
@slim nymph coming from tuinity, your chunk improvements have reduced cpu uage by 40% on an anarchy server, view-distance 4 (total system cpu usage)
void void
i am more concerned of memory usage
twin lagoon
yes
void void
also i thought you cant ping project developers
twin lagoon
the general rule is don't ping notable people when unnecessary but i figured aikar is fine in this case
obsidian crater
gets banned
void void
unfortunatly
void void
i dont think i have a place near by that sells tacos
so i cant tell you if they are tasty or not
its too late now i already agreed
magic ice
Tacos are tasty take my word
potent warren
wait so... on 20w21a it's possible to create custom dimensions 🤔
golden gust
for stuff like that, you generally just wanna look into an alternative
configurate is nice, just, not up to the spongies general documentation standards last I saw
sponge
it's one of their things
long comet
west ore
hiiiii
civic moon
nocturne forum
timber wadi
jagged egret
Does anyone know why IJ wouldn't mark Sprocket-Server/src/main/java as a sources path with these build files https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/562bacade0424118a5b6a723345c2067
hard kernel
anyone know how to put slowfalling in a essentials kit?
its not on the list of effects
jagged egret
Like a slow falling potion?
jagged egret
Have you tried slow_falling? It's possible that list is old
jagged egret
Don't thank me until it works ahaha
magic ice
1.16 snapshot with custom dimensions is interesting
still exploring what I can do, but it's interesting
I sent nether dimension for this and I'm in an ocean biome.. not entirely sure what's going on here but I'll see if I can find anything with further exploring 🙂
looks like the sky color is determined by the biome rather than the dimension now
pink sky in end biome with nether dimension
magic ice
when in a nether biome when in the overworld, you still get the overworld sky but the horizon changes color rather than the entire sky
wintry dawn
magic ice
is it a new thing that going into biomes normally changes the sky color?
the badlands sky is slightly different than that of a frozen river
dunno if thats new or not
wintry dawn
Hello.How can i fix that? I mean anti x-ray.Players can see dungeons,lavas on gravel.
magic ice
huh guess I've not played the game enough 😂
jagged egret
I only know since I work with resource packs 😂
limber knotBOT
?dynmap
?addcmd dynmap Optimize (Reduce) dynmaps load on your server: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-15-server-performance-help.431154/#post-3776848
isnt that the command
?help
waxen panther
👀
magic ice
I believe its a period not a question mark
jagged egret
.dynmap
limber knotBOT
.addcmd dynmap Optimize (Reduce) dynmaps load on your server: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-15-server-performance-help.431154/#post-3776848
hard kernel
anyone feel like making a plugin for me? DM me
limber knotBOT
Optimize (Reduce) dynmaps load on your server: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-15-server-performance-help.431154/#post-3776848
there we go
waxen panther
hard kernel
hi aikarbot
limber knotBOT
aikar is a bot confirmed
warm anchor
shhhh dont tell him /s
acoustic ether
limber knotBOT
EXTERMINATE...HUMANS....BEEP BOOP
waxen panther
wizs' true intentions finally revealed
void void
pulsar wigeon
"finally" like it wasn't known all along
void void
well there was no proof before
thing is if you want to exterminate something, you have to gain its trust
oh no
hard kernel
hello wizard bot
waxen panther
wizardjany
warm anchor
Will robot wizjany cool if people ping him?
void void
Aikar has now asserted his dominancy in the alphabet
vernal moth
Kitten update 😍
gritty crescent
warm anchor
does the kitten think that's a finger or a moving sausage?
trail pulsar
limber knotBOT
.addcmd ear2 Learn about Entity Activation Range 2.0 (Wake up Inactive): https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/e0ea2e0e147875b5b0eeab747d19fa00a5e19ef2
RoboMWM: last-modified-header and wget -N will work now on the API
Learn about Entity Activation Range 2.0 (Wake up Inactive): https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/commit/e0ea2e0e147875b5b0eeab747d19fa00a5e19ef2
warm anchor
We gonna need the .1.16 tag soon 
people gonna come
blazing nebula
When is Paper Dungeons coming out?
I’m pretty excited for Dungeons actually, only a few days till release
blazing nebula
I thought it was all run on mojang servers?
Also I’m guessing they had a real dev team on it and it’s nothing like the mess of the current state of Minecraft server source
cosmic raft
Dungeons is not Java-powered.
blazing nebula
What’s the backend written in I wonder
twin lagoon
void void
i mean i'm sure the community will come in a crisize that code anyway
warm anchor
I mean as a joke and yeah
peak pendant
warm anchor
you need to basically downlead another launcher
uncut moss
is acf-jda functional?
blazing nebula
Aikar has a guild with an ACF channel, not sure if acf-jda is functional yet
limber knotBOT
ooooooooooo thank you c:
cosmic raft
.maven
limber knotBOT
static badge
ah yes
pulsar wigeon
.tacos
limber knotBOT
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pulsar wigeon
oic
warm anchor
nice
upper flicker
it should print a recipe you can use to make your own tacos at home
blazing nebula
I’m not hating per say, just stating the burritos are in most cases a superior food
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you know how the retards work here
upper flicker
yes we're familiar with your work
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no we're familiar with your work
upper flicker
no u
blazing nebula
Italy? That’s nice
Like Italy sounds nice
I’ve never been but I’ve always wanted to
magic geyser
blazing nebula
It’d be a long boat ride for me
foggy elbow
To setup 3 servers and a waterfall on 1 machine, what would be the best CPU
- Xeon e-2288g
- Ryzen 9 3900x
?🤔
As for multiple servers I don't know if single thread perf mater a lot or not
blazing nebula
Oh no, you’ve summoned the CPU gremlins who will argue about CPU specs for the next 2 hours
jade knot
foggy elbow
In 2hr I'll sleep don't worry
upper flicker
yeah it's a little weird because supposedly zen 3 is still on track
foggy elbow
Yes but they won't be in servers before somr months
twin lagoon
we're not talking about servers
tight nova
foggy elbow
I9-10900k for Minecraft servers 😍
twin lagoon
no
foggy elbow
3150 single thread perf
twin lagoon
synthetic benchmarks suck
also it's not like you're going to notice the goddamn difference
i don't know who people are so hyped about getting a 10900k for their shitty 60 player server
foggy elbow
So it won't be better than my Xeon e-2288g 😢
foggy elbow
I'm running multiple servers running on 1 machine
I got 2*
I prefer use 40-50% of CPU of each machine instead of using 80-90% in only 1
Please OVH make new machines :c
Stop Ryzen 3700x, put 3900x 🤔
warm anchor
ovh dedi has built in anti ddos?
warm anchor
I mean any online machine will get that
twin lagoon
Hetzner has worse connexion/anti ddos.
I got 4 DDOS/day
foggy elbow
I tried a french Host before (ikoula)
foggy elbow
I for 1 ddos, server down
twin lagoon
and it usually suffices
foggy elbow
use tcpshield
that's not people who searched my IP, that's random people that random ddos some ip
twin lagoon
that can definitely prevent your stuff from being attacked
if you use a proper firewall
twin lagoon
you're not firewalling properly if you're getting attacked kek
foggy elbow
Ddos do not matter as they are instantly stopped
warm anchor
Lmao I just went on and checked mine
warm anchor
pls no roast 
twin lagoon
warm anchor
foggy elbow
I hesitate to try hetzner Ryzen 3900
twin lagoon
m8
foggy elbow
128gb ram lmao
foggy elbow
Yeah it's perfection
twin lagoon
no reason to go server hopping
warm anchor
ovh is fine 
blazing nebula
ovh only has three letters 😠
foggy elbow
OVH seems fine, there were no stock for the infra-2, I called them and get a reservation for one
Didn't know it was possible
elfin steeple
celest coyote
amd is doing a refresh because its free for them
warm anchor
it's heavily location depended
celest coyote
all they have to do is flip a switch and change somethings in microcode
upper flicker
supposedly they're still gonna do zen3 later in the year though
makes it a little unusual, maybe theyve got lots of production setup already
celest coyote
yeah they reconfirmed its going to come out this year
its prob just going to be 1 or 2 cpus
not the whole lineup
4950x or whatever
upper flicker
yeah
theyll keep doing the others through the end of the year and into next
like they did with zen 2
red imp
Hey guys, question about minigames..... I have paintball, murder mystery, hunger games, mob arena, fotball, voleyball, hide and seek... which one do you think could be together on one server? All of them are 1.15.2... so it's difficult to run one server for one minigame... so, which one could be together?
cosmic raft
It depends on how well things play together :)
red imp
And how could I try it 😅 I need some ideas which one could I try to put on one server and then I could see which one play together, no?
normal minnow
void void
how?
void void
oh, never heard of them
twin lagoon
oh you're not into the drama
void void
i'm into different drama 😉
upper flicker
Not the same guy, come on, let’s all be okay
twin lagoon
update protocollib
blazing nebula
Did you reload at some point?
normal minnow
never
twin lagoon
good
update your plugins
all of them
considering you've been using 1.14 i highly doubt your plugins are up to date
normal minnow
meh most are
twin lagoon
protocollib needed an update when 1.15 released
it's likely fixed by just updating
if it isn't it's probably some scuffed plugin interacting w/ protocollib
blazing nebula
Hello
warm anchor
👋
drowsy storm
how can i check all available flags for paper 1.8.8?
cuz i think there arent all of them in paper.yml
twin lagoon
paper.yml should generate all of them
drowsy storm
i found some guides to optimize paperspigot but i cant find some of them
limber knotBOT
@drowsy storm [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
twin lagoon
obviously
warm anchor
twin lagoon
you have to realise that no one uses 1.8, it's unsupported & doesn't have a lot of the options in that guide
or most other guides
blazing nebula
People use 1.8 lmao
drowsy storm
hypixel?
twin lagoon
hypixel doesn't even use spgiot at this point
warm anchor
yeah and we dont care about those people here /s
blazing nebula
Hypixel does not use 1.8
twin lagoon
that's an entirely different situation
drowsy storm
yeah
twin lagoon
point is
blazing nebula
They use 1.6
drowsy storm
what
twin lagoon
maintained guides are created for the latest versions
drowsy storm
hypixel dont use 1.6 lol
twin lagoon
sarcasm
blazing nebula
Yes they do.
drowsy storm
they use 1.8.9
blazing nebula
Nope
warm anchor
The point is. This discord only provide support for most up-to-date version.
normal minnow
hypixel 1.6
pulsar wigeon
srsly
drowsy storm
he
blazing nebula
I was just stating facts and this kid is trying to correct me
pulsar wigeon
nesaak you're just as retarded as he is
drowsy storm
so tell me where u found that information
twin lagoon
pulsar wigeon
dont pretend to be high and mighty
blazing nebula
Not my fault I have a low IQ 🤷
pulsar wigeon
your fault you want to try to correct people with your own misinformation
twin lagoon
b r u h
drowsy storm
how can hypixel be on 1.6 when u arent even allowed to play with this version lmao
drowsy storm
ok ok
warm anchor
blazing nebula
You can’t play hypixel on 1.6 but there code base is on 1.6
twin lagoon
you literally don't have access to their code base, there's no official source to back up your claims
just don't
warm anchor
twin lagoon
we don't need to know what version hypixel is on
it's not relevant
the point is, 1.8 is 5 years old, the optimization guides are made for the latest version using paper config options that aren't relevant or existing for 1.8
pulsar wigeon
stop fucking arguing pedantics
pulsar wigeon
we dont support old shit here
drowsy storm
this guide is 4 years old
pulsar wigeon
end of story
drowsy storm
so why the fuck is 4 years old guide under .optimize command XD
pulsar wigeon
that guide has been updated since it was made
pulsar wigeon
holy fuck dude
twin lagoon
warm anchor
I HOPE THAT DIDNT BLOW HIS MIND
twin lagoon
is it a social experiment
warm anchor
upper flicker
Lets hope you don’t rejoin
frozen jacinth
Yo guys what's the "What's 2+2? [13ecbaf848fb42b02b9bb7d51326b819e]" thing. I know it's a hacker thing but i dont really know why they do this in chat
potent fossil
what lol
frozen jacinth
you aren't familiar with the "What's 2+2" thing?
potent fossil
a captcha?
frozen jacinth
no it's not a captcha
potent fossil
need more context
potent fossil
I have not
potent fossil
fallen pumice
jagged egret
what on earth is that
frozen jacinth
i feel like im going insane
lament patio
I've heard somewhere that it's to bypass antispam filters that punish based on repeated messages, zero idea how accurate that is though
Seen that done before
void void
yep thats just spam bypass stuff
lament patio
Don't worry, it's all part of the simulation
void void
seen that lots
potent fossil
tf
upper flicker
I kinda wish there were some warnings on those guides
They do what they say, but they do at at the expense of everything else a lot of times
night plinth
fallen oracle
I think he's in the discord
Why not ask if he's waiting for 1.16?
Or maybe we copy it on the paper forums so we can keep it updated?
Yeah, it's a good start tho.
stiff yarrow
Easiest optimization is to get a better cpu 
fallen oracle
Lol
He still actively responds to the thread, just not sure on updates to it.
Ahh
Ask him his reasoning behind it
marsh topaz
fallen oracle
The latest update to it is April 20th and that was to update the link on Aikar flags.
Other than that, I think it was last December.
Tell him to update it for the no-tick stuff.
vestal jasper
What's funny is that spam message is ez as shit to protect against
The length of the string between the [] alternates a length of 32 and 33 afaik
kindred storm
stiff yarrow
You can message celeb to suggest edits pretty sure he’s on this discord
slender jay
maybe a paper guide isnt a bad idea
pale holly
fallen oracle
just ping him smh
sleek brook
warm anchor
I mean so long if they dated the guide. It should be ok.
gleaming hedge
void void
So is IRC just for text or is it possible to add voice as well?
cosmic raft
mumble > teamspeak
hard kernel
hi kash
jagged egret
anyone here have experience with griefprevention?
I'm trying to see if a player has a claim on a block like this:
GriefPrevention gp;
gp.dataStore.getClaimAt(<location>, false, null).ownerID == player.getUniqueId();
but we're getting this crash https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/eb21e0263d8c457f9f61939fd56e3f1b
dusk drift
u have so many errors going on holy fuck, how can you just ignore them
jagged egret
not my server
wraith oracle
Any statistics that tell you how many servers are using Craftbukkit?
bstats doesn't seem to be tracking it
polar sonnet
@fallen oracle I got a question on guilds
blazing nebula
bstats does track it
polar sonnet
is bukkit still a thing
blazing nebula
not the bukkit team but it's maintained (by spigot i think?)
wraith oracle
I didn't see it the first time, thanks
fallen oracle
I have no idea. I've never seen that plugin.
I mean claims are disabled by default
Lots of people use 3rd party plugins.
polar sonnet
AH alright
fallen oracle
👍
grand zinc
upper flicker
gg
ancient bolt
I'm drinking cider now, the only alcoholic drink I've found that I don't find disgusting
And because I never drink alcohol it doesn't take much to get me tipsy
mortal zinc
@ancient bolt are you an oldschool or newschool taylor fan?
slim nymph
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/hypixel-punishment-system.79210/ time to replace all our ban solutions peoples
wind elbow
blazing nebula
Why was that even allowed on
Don’t they have rules against duplicate/low quality plugins?
blazing nebula
Wait really?
What if you posted like a plugin that uses the server to mine crypto or for a bot net tho
slim nymph
they have a skript section, that is pretty much the definition of low quality
this is a skript
blazing nebula
Kinda impressed with what you can do in skript though
fallen oracle
I swear every time I make a change to this regex, it breaks. Why is this not matching? It was matching 1 week ago.
fallen oracle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
blazing nebula
Does windows even let you in recent versions
golden gust
this one time...
well, many times coz lul...
I dd'd over the drive as windows was running
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this must've been you cat
still cape
batching chunks error among them
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Alerts are red
My screen is blue
I think I deleted
System 32
well, one time it actually BSoD'd
many other times I just ended up missing literally every icon
fallen oracle
Woot. We got it.
fallen oracle
Wait what
fallen oracle
slim nymph
yes, and where do you see me putting quotes there
if (/foo/.matches(bar)) is how you do it
fallen oracle
Oh so it's literally
tranquil lily
cosmic raft
sigh
celest coyote
you okay kash?
cosmic raft
not really
static badge
just kash talking to himself I see
olive marlin
Glare, shouldn't it be /git-Paper-(\d+)/? (missing second dash)
celest coyote
numbers can be negative so it doesn't matter I think
olive marlin
It only matches digits. So nope.
Matches any digit (Arabic numeral). Equivalent to [0-9]. For example, /\d/ or /[0-9]/ matches "2" in "B2 is the suite number".
celest coyote
rip regex is so confusing