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calm temple
potent fossil
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self advertisement?

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trash

twin lagoon
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filmora

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lul

latent valve
vestal jasper
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Mods reeeeee

latent valve
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lmao he post in meme share pc in all channel lmfao

vestal jasper
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@wide hazel

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Egg I'll give you a taco

mossy vessel
potent fossil
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this guy is astoundingly bad at parkour

vestal jasper
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Imagine hearting your own comments @void void

potent fossil
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posting this on the internet should be a crime

vestal jasper
latent valve
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1080p50fps bruhhhh

heady spear
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Why are IS people in here

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This is my safe space

void void
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.g IS

limber knotBOT
void void
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ok wrong thing

uncut moss
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intellectualsites = isis?

heady spear
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Yes

vestal jasper
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deleting my comment
Reply to me like a man you retard

wide chasm
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Smh can't even eat lunch without someone breaking the rules

void void
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stef check games and share pc as well

vestal jasper
latent valve
vestal jasper
heady spear
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Stef go away

vestal jasper
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Reeee

heady spear
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We don’t need moderation

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All we need is a crazy sex party at my place

uncut moss
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moderation is communist propaganda

wide chasm
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Removed them, thanks

vestal jasper
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@heady spear I'm in

heady spear
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No takers?

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2 late

latent valve
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City send cords!

vestal jasper
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Fuck you I offered before you bitched about how no one wants to fuck you

uncut moss
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1.3733° N 32.2903° E

heady spear
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I’m just gonna go hang out at the mall

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If I’m lucky some old wrinkly dude coughs on my face

uncut moss
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cough in his face

mossy vessel
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Why are you so weird

void void
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*yous

heady spear
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No one loves me

mossy vessel
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Hm

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Maybe it's because you are that weird

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Ever considered that ?

uncut moss
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that's sad

void void
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don't disrespect city

potent fossil
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City is weird

mossy vessel
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just factz

uncut moss
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fax

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no printer

void void
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holy crap once i noticed my mouse latency, i can't stop seeing it

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ok i'm confusing myself now

granite salmon
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wireless mouse?

void void
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i kind of have to have wireless

granite salmon
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i've always had problems with those

void void
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no mouse cable is long enough

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and wireless is nice, but it's really just cos cheap mouse

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i should canibalise my logi mouse and put it inside my current one

uncut moss
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mine's too long

void void
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what'd be annoying for me as well is that the cable would be going nearly straight up

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that'd just be really weird

twin lagoon
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wireless mice are 10/10

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only if they're logitech though

void void
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yep, logi is good

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fuck Trust

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problem is really just when you get the motherboard/power supply interference

olive marlin
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Nirvana, I had issues when using logitech mouse on Linux over BT. Turns out polling rate was too low. Had to increase it and works great!

lofty breach
olive marlin
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Michael - Have you seen https://k8slens.dev/ ?
It's the best k8s overview I found so far. Works so good 🙂

Lens IDE for Kubernetes. The only system you’ll ever need to take control of your Kubernetes clusters. It's open source and free. Download it today!

twin lagoon
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oh shit wtf

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looks epic

void void
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i'll try the polling rate thing, looks like i'm only at 125hz right now

potent fossil
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that looks really cool

void void
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looks like discord

potent fossil
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i need to learn kubernetes

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so mystical to me

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but it would be nice to learn how to run a bunch of instances of an app across diff servers so that i can actually do some of dat sexy sexy horizontal scaling

twin lagoon
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kubernetes is just

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fucking confusing tbh

potent fossil
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i mean its docker but more right

twin lagoon
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well

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i wouldn't compare it to docker at all

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lol

potent fossil
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i dont even fully understand docker. like i can work with it just fine but i couldn't teach you it

twin lagoon
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it doesn't even use docker

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well ituses the docker containers

olive marlin
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It can use docker.

twin lagoon
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it can yeah

olive marlin
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But it also can use docker container runtimes.

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And it's closer to docker swarm.

twin lagoon
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it's swarm on steroids

void void
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k8s is more comparable to podman

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which uses runc directly

olive marlin
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Zimple - kind is very nice for local development, and k3s is very nice for simpler deployments.

twin lagoon
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i'm using k3s rn with rancher

void void
potent fossil
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yeah dont really know swarm either so couldn't even comment, ive never worked with devops much (though really should)

twin lagoon
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i think that i'll have to get rid of rancher though

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if i use lens

void void
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i'we worked a lot with docker but not with swarm/k8s tbh

twin lagoon
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k8s has to be the most confusing thing there is

void void
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i probably couldn't even switch to k8s because of docker plugins i have

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e.g zfs volume plugin

lilac gazelle
void void
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and some auth stuff

twin lagoon
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eismen is back

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oh no

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oh jesus christ

olive marlin
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Again? ...

twin lagoon
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you've literally been kicked already can you fuck off

void void
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@wide chasm

wide chasm
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Banned

void void
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<3

olive marlin
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I think k8s is not very confusing. It's just quite a bit advanced and in very developmental stages still.

twin lagoon
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it's pretty confusing

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the most confusing about it is the ecosystem

olive marlin
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And if you use helm - it is confusing.

twin lagoon
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it's rapidly developing

olive marlin
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Yeah, that's a downside.

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You need a lot of work to keep up to date on bigger deployments.

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Like, from version to version we need to change half of our charts to make them work.

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And almost everyone uses helm which is extremely confusing and broken.

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And the fact that if i.e. a pod dies / job finishes, the logs are gone.

twin lagoon
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great apparently my hosts file reset

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pog it works

olive marlin
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So you need some service which stores the logs for you (stackdriver in GCP, loki or ELK for on-prem deployments).

twin lagoon
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i'll be using loki most likely

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ELK is too heavy

olive marlin
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I haven't had a chance to play with loki yet.

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We were planning on using it, but turned out lacking features. But I'll probably use it for my personal deployment I'm working on.

twin lagoon
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eh

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i think i'll stick to rancher

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lens looks fancy but rancher should be easier

olive marlin
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Lens is easy - works almost flawlessly and runs outside of the cluster (which can be a good or bad thing).

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And if you give it prometheus endpoint, it'll connect to it 🙂

twin lagoon
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already got rancher though

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which does that already

olive marlin
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Yeah. If you got it - why do the work to change it.

twin lagoon
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w/ a webui which makes other things easier

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a nice feature of rancher is that it also comes with a grafana dashboard, with premade stuff

void void
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what the hell, my mouse apparently has a 256ms polling interval

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that can't be right

olive marlin
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I forgot what exactly they did, but I see I've used:

[ConnectionParameters]
MinInterval=6
MaxInterval=9
Latency=44
Timeout=216
rancid surge
mental geyser
pulsar wigeon
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what i miss lol

limber knotBOT
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oh, lame

potent fossil
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ur lame

waxen panther
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upvote

silk spade
placid aspen
fallen oracle
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Morning

void void
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gm

waxen panther
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gm

wide chasm
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Morning

fallen oracle
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How is everyone's Monday so far?

vernal moth
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I feel like shit, got a sun burn yesterday and stressful day at work

void void
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trying to get back on track after 4 day long hackathon

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involved a lot of typescript, mongodb and graphql

cunning raft
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mmmm webscale

polar sonnet
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holy shit bro

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My finals

void void
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..and excessive amount of energy drinks, coca cola and hard drinks

lone bane
polar sonnet
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we've literally told our teacher multiple times the zoom password does not work

void void
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zoom

polar sonnet
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Its stuiped

cunning raft
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most schools (at least in america) have gsuite accounts

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yet they use zoom

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when google meet it more secure and less of a hassle

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i will not even understand that

waxen panther
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we use microsoft teams here

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still a piece of shit but 1000x better than zoom

cunning raft
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both electron pepegahammer

waxen panther
polar sonnet
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it literally

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WONT work

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im going to have an aneurism

fallen oracle
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Finished classes last week.

uncut moss
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microsoft teams is pretty decent

void void
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discords better

twin lagoon
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not comparable

polar sonnet
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LETS GO BOYS

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dats a high c

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not nice i literally had google at my hands lol

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but i had to make it look legit thinksmart

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well 5 more to go

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0_0

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Yeah?

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Are you

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at my

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school

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oh

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ok

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and that I live in north dakota

quasi iris
void void
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whats funny about that?

austere ivy
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What's everyone's bet that they just made this with //image?

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I Made this with world edit : Minecraft - 52 comments, 1,220 points - DJGames5000, 6h ago

latent valve
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wait worldedit have //image 😮

frozen jacinth
twin lagoon
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use debian 10.3 minimal

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in the end it's all personal preference

waxen panther
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It's just whatever you're comfortable with really

twin lagoon
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it doesn't really matter that much

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ye

waxen panther
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I'd recommend debian too tho

twin lagoon
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debian is an all around good distro

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easy to use like ubuntu, but without the bloat

frozen jacinth
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I'm using Ubuntu 19.10

twin lagoon
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upgrade

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you're not using an LTS release

slim nymph
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ffs dont use non lts on servers

twin lagoon
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don't use non lts in general

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lol

slim nymph
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if your a desktop user its not bad if your still young and ok with breaking shit every 6 mo's

frozen jacinth
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Wait what's LTS mean

twin lagoon
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long term support

latent valve
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TempleOS on top

knotty warren
frozen jacinth
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bruh

slim nymph
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18.04, 20.04

fallen oracle
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Da hek, 20 is out already?

slim nymph
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20.04 is actually SUPER LTS now lol

frozen jacinth
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so it's probably better to use Debian

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is that the consensus

twin lagoon
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debian is top notch

cunning raft
slim nymph
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no, i recommend ubuntu still

twin lagoon
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but that's unrelated

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just upgrade to 20.04

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don't upgrade to other releases that aren't LTS

slim nymph
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debian is like centos, DINOSAUR ANCIENT

void void
frozen jacinth
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okay so use Ubuntu 20.04 or an LTS

latent valve
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debian = Aikar run away

slim nymph
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20.04 IS LTS

rich nimbus
frozen jacinth
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i meant other LTS

twin lagoon
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debian is like centos, DINOSAUR ANCIENT

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disagreed

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centos is fucking ancient

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debian isn't too ancient

slim nymph
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every 2 years is LTS in april

twin lagoon
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RHEL is just aids

frozen jacinth
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plus i dont think Hetzner is giving me the choice for 20.04

slim nymph
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the 04 means april FYI

twin lagoon
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you can upgrade

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you don't have to reinstall

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(unlike centos)

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do-release-upgrade -d

frozen jacinth
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wait

slim nymph
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but thats the main diff between debian and ubuntu is that debian is just an even older baseline, youll have better experience trying to find updated/modern software on ubuntu.

frozen jacinth
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are you telling me i can just do do-release-upgrade -d

twin lagoon
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tbh haven't had any bad experience with debian's package versions

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yes og

frozen jacinth
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and it wont fuck everything up

twin lagoon
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yes

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just update

slim nymph
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well outside of your system being down for a bit

frozen jacinth
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Ah great

slim nymph
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linux drops non lts from support really fast too

frozen jacinth
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also how much does it actually matter that I upgrade

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every other april is one more LTS with the shitstorm known as netplan :(

twin lagoon
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it's bloated by default yeah

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super annoying

slim nymph
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desktop sure, but not really server

twin lagoon
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even server tbh

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can they fuck off with their stupid fucking snaps already

slim nymph
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whats bloat on it?

twin lagoon
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my god

frozen jacinth
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do-release-upgrade -d
Only this command and nothing else?

twin lagoon
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just

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run it

frozen jacinth
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neat

minor badge
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i'd recommend running it in a screen or smth alike, dominic

twin lagoon
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no need

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it already does that @minor badge

minor badge
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ah ok

slim nymph
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BUT WHAT IF I WANT SNAPS

frozen jacinth
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ah right

twin lagoon
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snaps are a meme

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screen is a perfectly fine app to use in that case, know it was a recommended thing before but i suppose they incorporated that into it now?

twin lagoon
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fairly sure it has been a thing for years

slim nymph
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i would still use screen for this lol

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huh, cool

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yeah no i would also still be on the safe side but oh well

slim nymph
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im not sure what kinda voodoo zbks meaning to run a system upgrade through systemd

frozen jacinth
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why should i use screen for that command

slim nymph
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incase your terminal dies

twin lagoon
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no just

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run the command

slim nymph
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if your terminal dies whie thats running, bye server

twin lagoon
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it starts a screen & runs a ssh daemon on 1022

slim nymph
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oh? nice

frozen jacinth
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so the command starts a screen itself

twin lagoon
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just

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run the command

frozen jacinth
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okay cool

slim nymph
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inb4 michael has a backdoor in do release upgrade

twin lagoon
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my name is michael and not mason

slim nymph
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lolllllllll

twin lagoon
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fucker liked my tweets

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he's just acknowledging it

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lmao

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if you're doing business with mason there are no agreements

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well the only agreement is that you're getting fucked from behind

latent valve
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ooof

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who is this mason

twin lagoon
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craftimize

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read here

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he probably doesn't actually

cunning raft
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why don't you check barty lol

twin lagoon
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unless he quickly found a better way to backdoor

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which i doubt

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well, find his original backdoor lol

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it's just a process in the background

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use htop to find a netcat / nc process

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you're likely clean then

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though for good measurement it's probably a good idea to reinstall

cunning raft
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did you check bashrc

twin lagoon
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epic

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check it

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both your local user .bashrc

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and the systemwide one

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/etc/bash.bashrc

void void
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lol

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good sysadmin skills would be useful in such cases

slim nymph
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oh man, i just thought of the perfect combination of bad, pair Brianna with Mason

twin lagoon
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stop

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that's too much

slim nymph
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head explode?

twin lagoon
vernal moth
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Haha, Mason selling his stuff thru songoda, that would be amazing

void void
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CRAFTIMIZE IN SONGODA STORE

vernal moth
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Did he vanish for good now?

void void
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holy shit

twin lagoon
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no @vernal moth

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he works for some servers still

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but he's not doing craftimize from the looks of it

vernal moth
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I mean, you can find his stuff by looking for tick skipping ^^

twin lagoon
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meh there's another craftimize coming soon hopefully

slim nymph
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aikarize, aka papar

twin lagoon
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if only

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async entity tracking when

minor badge
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so i'm not wrong in assuming he obfuscates the jars heavily too?

twin lagoon
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@minor badge no obfuscation

void void
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lame

minor badge
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now that's surprising

void void
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tbh that player count check can be patched out pretty easily with runtime agent :p

minor badge
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would be pretty epic if someone charge backed a rather large sum tho peepoHappy

twin lagoon
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honestly

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i was proud enough of using a disassembler & setting the player count threshold

void void
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but requires java skill

twin lagoon
void void
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i mean that'd work in scenarios where

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patching stuff out is easy

slim nymph
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or just modify jar

void void
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you can't modify the jar

twin lagoon
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technically

void void
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barely need to know java

cunning raft
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If TPS expectations are not met under the mentioned player count, bespoke modifications will be made until the expectations are met.
decrease Thread#sleep amount

twin lagoon
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you can just create a patch of the shit he has done

void void
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such as certs checking shit etc

twin lagoon
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it's not obfuscated

void void
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since when can you not modifiy the jar

twin lagoon
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i know the jar version it's based on

void void
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you remove the checks

twin lagoon
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it's just not worth the effort

vernal moth
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Anybody remember deleting meta inf?

cunning raft
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yeah lmao

void void
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yeah but if you have like extreme verification going on then f

vernal moth
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That's what skips cert checks

void void
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you don't have to patch much stuff out usually

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it's like changing flow a bit

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for example osrs is doing some very hairy cert verification m a n u a l l y

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with their stock launcher lol

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but even easier to patch out

twin lagoon
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imagine MAC address checks

void void
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can be worked around lol

twin lagoon
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just set the playerthreshold in this case

void void
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by patching or using containers taps_head

twin lagoon
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mason specifically advises not to use containers

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since docker has worse performance or something

void void
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if poorly configured

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and that's bs

slim nymph
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why dont people just upload his jar to stop people from paying for it, i mean its even legal to do so lol

peak nexus
cunning raft
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gpl 🎉

granite salmon
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🥳

void void
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michael just upload the jar somewhere kek

twin lagoon
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no

slim nymph
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with paperclip* lol

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who cares what's legal when he backdoors you anyways

twin lagoon
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there's no paperclip in first place @slim nymph

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so that's even more effort

slim nymph
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im saying you can paperclip it 😛

cunning raft
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what's he gonna do, sue you pepega

twin lagoon
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i'm fairly sure there would be nothing happening if i did it barty

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but i'm not doing it

slim nymph
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the gpl is pretty fucking clear on this matter, he sold you software that is a derivative work of GPL software. hes supposed to provide source, but GPL allows you to redistribute too.

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i dunno, i'd still work for someone who publishes the work of someone with proof of backdooring

twin lagoon
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@spare venture you're leaking someone's stuff who has basically scammed numerous people

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has backdoored people

cunning raft
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"our server has suffered a data breach, the hacker has only targeted our server software and no userdata has been compromised"

twin lagoon
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and has been an arrogant prick

cunning raft
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just say that

void void
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just say that oops my backups leaked

granite salmon
void void
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.g bartyrealms leaked backups

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) No results found.

void void
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damn

granite salmon
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f

void void
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let's make it happen

twin lagoon
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but er yeah the jar isn't worth people's time

copper cairn
twin lagoon
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it's 90% tick limiting

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and some async stuff on pathfinder goals and navigation

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what a surprise, it's useless

twin lagoon
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it has it's issues

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such as mobs despawning

slim nymph
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i can give you ab uild with tick limited entities

twin lagoon
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and bad mob ai

slim nymph
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ill just delete the ticking entities/block entities section

cunning raft
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should have held CMI migration as ransom for the craftimize jar barty

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missed opportunity

slim nymph
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since its ok to skip entities apparently!

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it died?

void void
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too rigged crates

slim nymph
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what did you do lol

pulsar wigeon
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novelty ran out

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:^)

slim nymph
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what was the novelty

pulsar wigeon
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no one wants to be on this dumb earth

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map of earth lol

granite salmon
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move to mars

pulsar wigeon
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otherwise just sameold towny wahtever shit

void void
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lmao ye just make mars map

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and say

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wait whats towny

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it's sponsored by muskie

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bam player count 5k

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, is it now

slim nymph
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were doing a bit better now

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getting back over 100 at peak

cunning raft
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careful what you say to wiz, they gonna use the worldedit backdoor on u

pulsar wigeon
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kek

blazing nebula
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Worldedit has a backdoor?

slim nymph
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i saw a worldguard region io thread, seemed sketch

pulsar wigeon
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idk what your point is barty

vernal moth
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Clearly dyescape is the biggest server of them all!

slim nymph
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i hope so, my servers pretty damn fringe and refuse to copy all the styles of everyone else 😛

pulsar wigeon
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is your server not just towny on the mc earth map?

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is that somehow an inaccurate statement?

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????????

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?????????????????????

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wtf are you smoking

twin lagoon
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epic

slim nymph
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we would be huge if we didnt have a steep learning curve lol. were trying to work on that though

void void
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wtf

granite salmon
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i thought he had two

vernal moth
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Guys chill

void void
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why would people want to play towny

pulsar wigeon
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are you actually gonna point out why i'm wrong

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or are you just gonna throw ad hominem

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well shut the fuck up with the personal attack shit then

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wasn't it mikro who said rigged crates

void void
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i did yeh

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mfw

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stop fighting it's retarded

granite salmon
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🍿

pulsar wigeon
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dude tf is wrong with barty today

blazing nebula
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What the fuck is happening here

spare venture
granite salmon
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excitement

limber knotBOT
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sounds sassy

twin lagoon
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epic bruh moment

latent valve
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barty stop smoking that shit lel

spare venture
vernal moth
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You both should stop

latent valve
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pulsar wigeon
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k guess he needs some time to cool off

void void
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  • i
twin lagoon
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epic

granite salmon
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remarkable

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count down before he starts talking shit in tuinity server abt it

pulsar wigeon
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i guess he took a huge amount of offense at me calling his server towny on mc earth map

cunning raft
pulsar wigeon
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too late proxi

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LOL

cunning raft
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count down before he starts talking shit in tuinity server abt it
less than 60s

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uh oh he's typing

pulsar wigeon
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alright anyway

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this is over here, no longer concerns this server

vernal moth
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I mean, I can kinda understand him

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You both acted like idiots

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a lot of autism, a lot of craftimize shit, and a little bit of funny moments

iron zephyr
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Hate to interrupt this fascinating conversation: any server owners find any decent free Anticheats out there?

twin lagoon
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"free"

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moderators

twin lagoon
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no

iron zephyr
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There are so many, and so many bad ones, and a few that look good

cunning raft
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skript anticheat

void void
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NCP for free

granite salmon
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i know a good anticheat: staff

latent valve
vernal moth
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Haha anticheat

iron zephyr
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😄 Josh is funny

vernal moth
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Meme

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a good anti cheat is one which simply tells staff when they (possibly) cheat

iron zephyr
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Yes, that's what I'm looking for

potent fossil
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AAC Ghost Config

iron zephyr
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I don't want automated enforcement: I want something that will alert staff when cheating occurs

void void
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watchdog?

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haha

cunning raft
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Does the client send their brand to the server?

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If yes are any hacked clients dumb enough to set their brand to their name?

minor badge
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NCP as zbk said or AAC ghost as simple said

potent fossil
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AAC Ghost takes AAC and disables automatic enforcement except for the most egregious hacks and instead opts to inform staff

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Highly recommended

void void
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no they don't

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i hope none of them do at the lest

blazing nebula
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Some do

iron zephyr
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Okay cool, thanks! I'll look at both of those

void void
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none of the good ones

granite salmon
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you're terrible at making a client then

iron zephyr
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is ncp still being updated?

potent fossil
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AAC Ghost comes with Celebrimbor's paid AAC config. It's worth the cost though

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NCP for free

iron zephyr
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I don't have money 😦 the green stuff is hard to come by

void void
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get AAC if you have monet

blazing nebula
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Just let people cheat tbh 🤷‍♂️

granite salmon
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just print more, Dawn

potent fossil
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just go NCP I guess

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the other anticheats are really just bad

iron zephyr
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Good point. Guess I've gotten lazy with the counterfeits

potent fossil
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they can try but no

iron zephyr
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Kk, thanks

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That's been my impression, they all seem bad haha

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wanna make a stinker server together simple

limber knotBOT
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brb quickly ruining nesaak's item/stat economy

potent fossil
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depends

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what kind of stanker stinky server

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uh oh kenny is back :(

iron zephyr
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Also, I cannot believe that there are so many Skript anticheats O.o

minor badge
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the kind where we put mikro on a shrine for being stinkiest, simple

iron zephyr
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Josh just made me google it

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Weird world

limber knotBOT
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I am always ghosting around

granite salmon
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skript anticheat kekwhyper

cunning raft
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i deny like 5 a week on skunity lmao

potent fossil
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skript anticheat pepe_run

granite salmon
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imagine the performance on that kekwhyper

iron zephyr
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Who looks at Skript, and is like "Yup, I'm going to dedicate a few years of my life to designing an anticheat with this."

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"Instead of, you know, learning Java"

potent fossil
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they dont even dedicate years

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they hardcode a bunch of cases and write the skript for it in thousands of lines

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if player is flying and player is not allowed to fly:
  kick player
potent fossil
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and think "yep this shit is good enough to sell"

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proxi you're joking but

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that's literally

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what they are

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who said i was joking

limber knotBOT
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just ask your players if they are cheating, why should they ever lie to you?

potent fossil
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good point

waxen panther
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but guys

cunning raft
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you as well as i, i could write skript, simple :D

iron zephyr
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So true. There are so many, and they are so recently updated

potent fossil
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listen

blazing nebula
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They cant cheat if you make it against your rules

potent fossil
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i dont respect myself a lot

blazing nebula
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Or else they’d go to jail

iron zephyr
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Omg

potent fossil
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but i do respect myself enough to never use skript

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for anything

iron zephyr
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Good point

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I never thought of that

minor badge
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you KNOW as well as i*, sorry i forgot a word lmao

iron zephyr
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Let me go make cheating against the rules

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brb guys

granite salmon
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just ban everyone, then there are no cheaters

iron zephyr
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(also gotta install Skript, it's what the cool kids are doing)

potent fossil
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just go 2b2t style and say do whatever u want

blazing nebula
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Then the police will take care of criminals for you

void void
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2b has an anticheat

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AAc

granite salmon
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"anarchy"

cunning raft
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doesn't work in that case

minor badge
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2b changes anti-cheat all the time

granite salmon
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"let me stop you using speed hacks"

minor badge
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it's only there to hinder, not to stop entirely

iron zephyr
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"If you shut down your server, you automatically break all hacks."

void void
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nah it's AAC for the past few years now

iron zephyr
void void
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and like it makes most hacks unusable

granite salmon
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it kicks people, Nirvana

iron zephyr
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AAC looks nice, but over $20 o.o

void void
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that as well

iron zephyr
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Who has that kind of money

granite salmon
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lots of people

void void
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majority of the world

iron zephyr
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That's like half a Starbucks coffee, and I have #priorities

blazing nebula
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I wouldn’t pay over a nickel for an anti cheat

potent fossil
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along with AAC tho, you need a config like celebrimbors because unconfigged AAC is shit (leading to people having bad opinions on it, when really they just didnt configure it)

minor badge
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why use a heavy anticheat when you can just kick them into queue effectively tempbanning them rollsafe

void void
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most queues actually don't have an anticheat

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that's fun

granite salmon
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hypixel ddoesn't

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in their limbo servers

blazing nebula
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Why not just use the valorant kernel level anti cheat?

cunning raft
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most queues actually don't have an anticheat
because why would they

dusk drift
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Limbo doesn't even care about what you send.

granite salmon
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nice

dusk drift
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It does keepalive and thats pretty much it

granite salmon
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i mean, why should it

iron zephyr
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This is so much work

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Maybe I'll just turn my server offline and let everyone go wild

void void
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it's not, we just told you what

iron zephyr
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(I'm just kidding :D)

blazing nebula
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Has anyone ever successfully implemented a client level anti cheat?

cunning raft
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Badlion maybe

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idk what their impli is

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but like

iron zephyr
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So, NCP hasn't been updated in awhile, but there is this fork

cunning raft
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r/e exists

iron zephyr
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Anyone used this?

limber knotBOT
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everybody using NCP on 1.13+ uses that

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runs

iron zephyr
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Cool

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ty

limber knotBOT
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oo uni has become modern, they're asking us to use github or their hosted gitlab for group projects

void void
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client level anti cheat doesn't make any sense

blazing nebula
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How?

limber knotBOT
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wut

void void
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why the hell would a cheater install an anti cheat

blazing nebula
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You could require it to connect

limber knotBOT
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if they want to be able to play the fucking game?

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:D

iron zephyr
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That would be such a pain

cunning raft
iron zephyr
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Clientside anticheat

void void
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well then they play on a different server

blazing nebula
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Then they wouldn’t cheat?

void void
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apart from minecraft

limber knotBOT
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good, then they don't cheat on yours, lol

olive marlin
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And then you have no cheaters on yours.

blazing nebula
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If the cheater plays on a different server, it worked

oak slate
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hi everyone i am creating an anticheat and i wanted to know if there was an automatic way to disable some checks when the server tps drop below a certain number

iron zephyr
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Do any big servers use client side AC?

blazing nebula
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No

iron zephyr
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I haven't been on big-boy MC in awhile

blazing nebula
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Not that ik of

void void
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must be a reason for that

limber knotBOT
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uhm marc, yes, that's your job

void void
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badlion only servers?

limber knotBOT
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I mean no anti cheat works 100% so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

blazing nebula
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It’s also hard to make one and users don’t wanna have to install a client to play on a server

limber knotBOT
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BAC is pretty popular

iron zephyr
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Yeah, especially with so many options

granite salmon
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yeah im never installing some stupid antticheat client just to play on a server

oak slate
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uhm marc, yes, that's your job
@static ravenTV#0000 ehm what do you mean?

blazing nebula
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The only type of server a client side anti cheat could really work with is a hardcore pvp server where downloading a client is worth the promise of a lot less cheaters

limber knotBOT
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check for the tps and disbable checks, it's your anticheat after all thonk

static raven
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huh?

limber knotBOT
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wow fake kenny

void void
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irc bridge fail

iron zephyr
#

Yeah, or a super unique server that everyone wants to paly

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*play

static raven
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says the bot

limber knotBOT
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bottist >:(

void void
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kenny wheres the head

limber knotBOT
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hanging from the roof

void void
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bring back kennys head!

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that could work

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i'm still never installing a client side anti cheat

granite salmon
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^

limber knotBOT
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some servers also used BAC for top tier / "ranked" minigames to even be able to participate

granite salmon
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i don't care about a rank on a server I've never played on before...

olive marlin
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This gives people a chance to to like your server and consider woth it.

void void
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i should reverse BAC

blazing nebula
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Mine bitcoin 😉

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Just throw buzz words at em

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Advanced algorithms

void void
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cloud gaming

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free range clouds

blazing nebula
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Organic vegan

void void
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ye it's not good at flagging stuff

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but it does detect cheats better than any other free one

minor badge
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i mean if theyre using jesus and NCP tells staff theyre flying, they at least get notified of cheats :p

potent fossil
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lol just watched R&M vat of acid episode

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very good

void void
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i think the simpsons is the best cartoon

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2nd is futurama

potent fossil
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futurama is great and im still mad that it's cancelled

void void
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friggin fox

limber knotBOT
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I mean, it might've ended up like the simpsons, lol

void void
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are you homer?

potent fossil
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futurama is the kind of show where i'd be ok with that phoenix

limber knotBOT
vernal moth
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I just pushed the big red button

blazing nebula
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whats the big red button

vernal moth
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Migrating all costumers at work to Microsoft azure active directory b2c now

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Dis gonna take a while 😂

void void
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MCP was never updated for 1.12.2 was it?

pulsar wigeon
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...

vernal moth
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Why wouldn't it be?

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We at 1.15, just fyi

pulsar wigeon
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wtf do you think forge has been using this whole time

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lmao

void void
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mappings aren't complete for that version then

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meh i'll survive

pulsar wigeon
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er...

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whatever you say lol

fierce kestrel
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Alright so I found a way to switch to paper and still listen to all events

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Instead of using ClassGraph, I registered my event to all handler lists.

pulsar wigeon
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whatever you're doing sounds like a bad idea

fierce kestrel
#

I'm only trying to listen to every event?

cunning raft
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only

limber knotBOT
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it begs the question "why?"

pulsar wigeon
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raises the question

potent fossil
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just do MiniDigger's gist?? i sent it to you earlier

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we still on this

fierce kestrel
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doesn't that only work for bukkit events?

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and that uses reflection

potent fossil
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you just add the other package and boom paper supported

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nothing wrong with reflection

fierce kestrel
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reflection is not good if there's better solution without it

pulsar wigeon
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lmfao

potent fossil
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...

pulsar wigeon
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dude has no clue what he's talking about

fierce kestrel
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this gets all events, spigot's, paper's, other plugins, all without using reflection and only using an existing spigot solution

cunning raft
potent fossil
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I'll say again, there is nothing wrong with reflection for this use case. Whoever said you shouldn't use it is probably retarded

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Just use his gist.

kindred storm
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you may want to listen to all events if you need dynamic event registration

potent fossil
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It's infinitely easier.

pulsar wigeon
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no, that's a terrible idea

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like, people do it but just to make it clear, it's bad

potent fossil
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wait do what

limber knotBOT
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it makes the server slower

blazing nebula
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just listen to all events, check if it implements cancellable, if it does, cancel it.

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
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i mean you won't get many events then

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cancel everything at the login phase

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:^)

potent fossil
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with like 10 chars

limber knotBOT
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not supporting plugin events smh

potent fossil
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you can scan from package root if you so wish

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but this is a part of the code you put in your plugin, soo, if you need more packages...just put em there

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or get from config whatever

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or, ofc, use a different lib (or none at all, its just reflection)..this is using the Reflections lib which is decent but there are better https://github.com/ronmamo/reflections ¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void
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ha kaspersky is now flagging doom's rootkit as malware

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imma keep enjoying quake 1, the last good game id made

brazen zephyr
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Whats a good plugin thats compatible with luckperms that does time played rankups

void void
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q3 was pretty ok too ngl

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for me the problem is that whenever they make a game look better, i hate it

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well uh

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tried Epsilon Pack?

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retextures everything in q1

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and requires Darkplaces engine

kindred storm
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plugin count does not determine performance

twin lagoon
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2.2ghz sounds like a shitty old cpu

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what cpu?

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gigahertz doesn't tell a lot

kindred storm
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but I am trying to think like a user

#

what

void void
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users are dumb, so you are dumb

kindred storm
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also, what do you mean by "fully optimised"?

#

There is no such thing as "full optimisation"

void void
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drop em in a void world

kindred storm
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Don't have a server. Best peformance

void void
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paper and a genius

twin lagoon
#

that's aids

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synthetic benchmarks are bad but if it's low it's a decent indication

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what's the exact model?

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yeah just don't

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xeon e5's for minecraft

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wouldn't do it

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that's true

quasi iris
void void
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3.14159265 etc

quasi iris
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3.1415926535897
lol

twin lagoon
void void
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what language are you talking about

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who says pe

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well that's the greek's problem

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thx for ping

upper flicker
#

well, when you take content from other languages, their pronunciation should be tried to be identical
There's thousands of years of many languages not caring about this at all

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this is a stupid hill to die on

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it is your right to do so though

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it's not a fork if it doesnt use nms

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Glowstone is a from-scratch rewrite that still uses Bukkit but doesn't use NMS

void void
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make your own language that preserves pronounciation

upper flicker
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it is not feature-complete and is still on 1.12 however

void void
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and try to make it sound coherent and making any kind of sense

wide chasm
#

Tbf languages rarely make sense

void void
#

languages are as archaic as people

wide chasm
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How is not using NMS tied to performance?

void void
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do you know what it is?

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google

upper flicker
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NMS just refers to the mojang written portion of the server

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there is no guarantee that someone else's version will be faster

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(though it often is)

wide chasm
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net.minecraft.server

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It's the internal package name used.

cunning raft
wide chasm
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Please don't mention project developers.

kindred storm
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Glowstone would have the advantage that its objects could implement the Bukkit API directly inside of making a CraftXXX for each NMS equivalent

void void
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stef do you have a macro or smthin writing that for you

cunning raft
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it's 5 words

void void
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cos it's nearly the same exact sentence every time

kindred storm
#

Oh you changed your handle

#

I think you misunderstand

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You did not inform your users you were storing their information.

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I was not mad about that.

#

Sorry I don't track your discord handle, I guess?

pulsar wigeon
void void
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why would people change their discord handle

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just change the nickname sometimes

#

you can have a nickname regardless of verification

kindred storm
#

He means on another discord server

void void
#

see

cunning raft
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ah you're from spigot

#

checks out that's why you sound overly pretentious and were correcting people pronunciation

twin lagoon
#

aren't you the spartan guy

kindred storm
#

and it commences

void void
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spartans bad

kindred storm
#

or should I say, re-commences

void void
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there's even a dupe exploiting the ban system

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so ye don't use it

cunning raft
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If i buy Spartan i want the source code

void void
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no source no monet

cunning raft
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if you don't send the source after i buy it you're violating the gpl and i am prepared to send my team of 17 bukkit attorneys to your mom's basement

kindred storm
#

Do you recall the conversation on the SpigotMC discord about open-sourcing in relation to anticheats?

void void
#

how is pvp a toxic topic

kindred storm
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Yet it seems you created a discord for that purpose.

pulsar wigeon
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like people who dont comply with the GPL peepoJuice

kindred storm
#

Why then?

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Hmm

void void
#

where you will have to discuss anticheats presumably

kindred storm
#

I do not see how a discord server improves transparency.

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But I guess that is your imperative.

pulsar wigeon
#

🍿

void void
#

he's right, you'll die early if you argue over anticheats

fierce kestrel
#

Why is Pathfinder.moveTo returning false?

kindred storm
kindred storm
#

The users here are certainly different from those on the SpigotMC discord.

wide chasm
#

You wouldn't be the first to complain about that Evan.

void void
#

we wear our opinions on our shoulders

kindred storm
#

There are some recognisable reactions you will find if a newcoming user says or does something specifically.

cunning raft
#

only valid argument here was GPL

#

rest is pointless p much

kindred storm
#

I hope you do not think I am or ever was "coming at you," by the way.

slender jay
#

People here aren't not that friendly, most of us are just bold and spit out the facts

blazing nebula
#

who said this discord was friendly?

golden gust
#

You want the truth?

#

You can't handle the truth

#

ur dum

slender jay
#

well i'm not here to be someones sholder to cry upon

blazing nebula
#

dum dum foo foo

void void
#

spitting facts is the most effective method of getting a point across

slender jay
#

if i have something to say i say it

#

its your job to handle it

kindred storm
#

On the contrary, cohesion of argument is more important than mere facts.

upper flicker
#

most of the people I watch complain about it come in here and get upset people dont pepper them with please and thank you, or tell them to search for themselves

#

and then there's the rare but always fun, "do you know who I am? why are you not kissing the ground I walk on"

pulsar wigeon
#

jfc

kindred storm
#

There is no need for pride in this matter.

slender jay
#

Say that to your future wife, eventually you will have no relationship

wide chasm
#

You're not behaving any better than others here Evan.

blazing nebula
#

Evan are you 12 years old?

slender jay
#

i wouldnt get in a relationship with a person who cant handle who i am in the first place

golden gust
#

So do we, there are some morons in here, but as Z said, the people getting upset with us are generally the people expecting us to hold their hand or use our brains in the lack of existence of theirs

upper flicker
#

nothing Ive seen here indicates there's any moral high ground to be had

#

glhf everyone

true canyon
#

Why isn't Z kissing the ground I'm walking on yet?

#

I want a refund.

upper flicker
#

you have your own cat carrier mbax

golden gust
#

who the fuck are you and the fuck are you doing in my swap?

pulsar wigeon
#

lack of cute cat pics bax

upper flicker
#

that's better than most people

blazing nebula
#

some people here are friendly tho

kindred storm
#

I believe you are mistaking "unfriendly messages" for the very same bluntness you claim to adhere to.

pulsar wigeon
#

in my swap
wouldn't want to waste actual RAM on this trash

slender jay
#

you only got honest messages as far as i can see

pulsar wigeon
void void
#

my dog would end up eating that cat

blazing nebula
#

awwwwwww

#

I love husky's

#

they are so pretty

void void
#

malamutes are better

#

fluffier

blazing nebula
#

I really want a husky

twin lagoon
#

husky pogTURBO

blazing nebula
#

I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to train it though

void void
#

you have to be firm with those kinds of dogs

blazing nebula
#

they are very disobedient I hear

void void
#

don't and they become a nervous wreck

twin lagoon
blazing nebula
#

I recently got a malteze puppy

golden gust
#

My grandparents used to have a black labradour

void void
#

awww, that fur looks nice

blazing nebula
#

I'm on my computer and don't have any pictures but he is so cute

golden gust
#

Apparently he wouldn't let anybody touch his toys and stuff, and there is a picture of me just casually leaning against him shaking his toy around the air

void void
#

imma find a pic of my doggy

blazing nebula
cunning raft
#

lmao

void void
#

puppy eyes aren't perfected yet on that breed, but looks like a keeper

blazing nebula
#

he is very active and playfull

slender jay
#

13 years have passed and not a day goes by that i dont miss my dog 😟

void void
#

f

orchid agate
slender jay
#

oh lord a wall of text has appeared

upper flicker
#

take your own advice

#

let it go

orchid agate
#

Hello

void void
blazing nebula
#

awwwwwwwww

#

they are so pretty

true canyon
#

Welcome, @orchid agate

void void
#

thats why i like malamutes

#

their fur is longer and fluffier

blazing nebula
#

what is a malamute

void void
#

.g malamute

limber knotBOT
upper flicker
#

yes, you would be wise to let it go rather than stir all that stupid drama back up for no reason

slender jay
#

i was gonna give you an answer to that wall of text evan but im trying to be a bigger person

limber knotBOT
#

I missed drama? ;_;

blazing nebula
#

just move on, we are talking about dogs now

void void
#

yes cute dogs now, not drama

upper flicker
#

annnnd you broguht it back up

twin lagoon
#

alaskan malamutes are so fucking fluffy

uncut moss
#

pomeranians are more fluffy

twin lagoon
#

well yes but actually no

blazing nebula
#

i like poms too

#

but im allergic

twin lagoon
#

a pom is not more fluffy than that

uncut moss
#

i don't like them, but they're fluffy

blazing nebula
#

fat

void void
#

just the wrong kind of fur

slender jay
#

good looks like someone kicked him

blazing nebula
#

he is banned 😮

slender jay
#

even better

upper flicker
#

isnt banned

slender jay
#

or should i say evAn better

blazing nebula
#

oh, left?

wide chasm
#

Kicked

blazing nebula
#

whats the point of a kick?

cunning raft
#

doesn't matter :))

blazing nebula
#

warning?

void void
#

to warn them, much better than words

twin lagoon
#

encourages them to take a break

#

and that

wide chasm
#

Yeah, kick is basically a more forceful warning

uncut moss
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sounds like communism to me

blazing nebula
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^^

slender jay
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since people dont tent to listen to warnings a kick is their final warning before ban

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tend*

blazing nebula
void void
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it's not communist, i haven't received my pay check from paper

wide chasm
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You have, it's 0.

blazing nebula
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it was 0.001 but was rounded down

void void
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damn inflation

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.g saint bernard

limber knotBOT
void void
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i mean the dog

limber knotBOT
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lmao

blazing nebula
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FREE 2-DAY SHIPPING ON ORDERS I can get a dog in 2 days?

void void
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well theres one of those dogs were i live, largest in the town

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and my dog bullies him

uncut moss
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great danes are fucking giant

void void
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giant, but like they don't live long