#general
twin lagoon
olive marlin
Yeah, looked like it ๐
twin lagoon
it even comes with grafana
tbh
hardest part of this was setting up the virtual machines themselves
struggled a bit because hyper-v is fucking retarded & i just wanted vmware
latent valve
neat
oak slate
terse jetty
void void
don't re invent the wheel?
ancient trout
void void
lol
urban marlin
limber knotBOT
https://spigot.club/i/iOjq28CU.png gotta love wifi 
merry frigate
neat smelt
still 5x the upload i have with lan
void void
damn cheap wireless mice have a really high latency
i'm gonna have to switch between my vertical mouse for regular use and my logi for gaming
my reactions are slow anyway, but that explains why minecraft pvp felt so weird
i can really feel the difference, must be a bad mouse then
like just in moving the cursor around i can see the latency
well looks like i'm gonna have to buy a logi mx vertical then
minor otter
I recently started working on a private server with a paper jar which is currently only on my desktop. Before when I started a server on my desktop people connected to my internet could join it using localhost. However now, I am the only one who can join it on my internet? Anyone know why? Is it related to the paper jar?
limber knotBOT
no
void void
is your server connected to the internet
minor otter
Yes
Or I've not portforwarded it. At least I've never had to do that before
for people connected to my internet to join it
void void
you have to portforward it
twin lagoon
you don't have to portforward for people on your LAN to connect
void void
is the server on the same network as before?
minor otter
Yeah, I should not have to portforward it since they are connected to the same internet as me, and the server.
limber knotBOT
it does mean shit if they use the same internet
minor otter
Yeah, we have not changed network.
limber knotBOT
what is important is if they are in the same local subnet
and if your router's firewall allows connecting to other machines in the local net
minor otter
Yeah, I know about the subnet thing. I figured that out before, now I am sure they are connected to the same subnet.
The routers firewall has not been changed either.
void void
holy crap a logi mx vertical costs ยฃ100
i mean i could get a trackball for half the price
but that'd agrevate my thumb which is apparently injured as well
minor otter
Is it maybe some settings I've changed on my pc. that I dont allow other machines to connect?
void void
yep, i have this cheap m310 logi, really good, too bad it's standard
stone minnow
void void
limber knotBOT
g502 is nice, I use that one
limber knotBOT
I don't get why they have a thousand different g502 variations
oh, the lightspeed is the wireless one
cosmic raft
I recently bought a Logitech headset
but
I will never, ever, ever buy a Logitech mouse again
limber knotBOT
I'm on the opposit side: I wont buy anything but logitech (unless someone else finally ships their cool scroll wheel ;D)
cosmic raft
I love my Corsair mouse and Ducky keyboard
limber knotBOT
oh wow, the wireless G502 version costs $100 more? Oo
waxen panther
Yee
It's nice though, best mouse I've ever owned
I only bought corsair mouses before this one
limber knotBOT
I just don't get how a wireless feature could make it that much more expensive
like for me wireless make a mouse less worth, lol
waxen panther
It doesn't 
It's absolutely overpriced but oh well
I enjoy it and I didn't want a wireless mouse that felt laggy or had bad battery
void void
tbh I shouldve bought the wired version, would prob have less latency
especially on low quality stuff
limber knotBOT
I had two wireless ones before this one (G700s and whatever shipped in the wave bundle) and got annoyed by their weight and having to charge them all the time
so I just said fuck it, I get a wired one and it hasn't been an issue ever
void void
I like having a bit of weight, my hand is physically not accurate
limber knotBOT
that's why you can add weights 
but I need it to be extremely light, I have an insanely high sensitivity xD
void void
well my pc is like a meter and a bit above me as well
limber knotBOT
void void
high sensitivity for me is fine to a point
waxen panther
that's what i had before this one ^^
void void
insanely high is horrible
limber knotBOT
and ordered this a couple days ago: https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-audio/g933-7-1-surround-sound-gaming-headset.981-000585.html
waxen panther
What do you think of the ducky one 2?
I had the first one and didn't like it
Using a anne pro 2 now
void void
https://www.trust.com/en/product/22879-verto-wireless-ergonomic-mouse
This is my current mouse, rebranded chinese crap
limber knotBOT
does the wheel spin or does it "lock" kashike?
void void
wheels lock?
limber knotBOT
(I guess seeing as it doesn't specify it I guess it's a traditional style wheel)
void void
what other kinds of wheels are there
limber knotBOT
you know like you can't scroll to every angle of it but it locks into certain positions and is slightly harder to move out there?
void void
i thought that was normal
limber knotBOT
yeah
phoenix616: what does that mean
but some logitech mice have a switch where you can enable and disable the locking
then it doesn't make noice anymore and you can just let spin it and it keeps spinning :D
void void
why would you want that?
limber knotBOT
because a) looong as pages and documents, b) less strain on fingers and c) less noice I guess xD
also I guess I'm used to it after over 10 years of using it, lol
void void
fair enough, i would probably only use for placing blocks randomly tho
waxen panther
the free spin on logitech mices is nice
I have their new version of it on my mx master 3 and it feels so smooth
limber knotBOT
electromagnetic scrolling
gonna have to try that one once one can go out without hassle again xD
limber knotBOT
I used to use one, years ago
kindred storm
I used to as well
limber knotBOT
my parents still use one but only because their previous mouse broke and they have almost no space on their desk, lol
void void
hows gaming on one?
kindred storm
not good
void void
well looks like i gotta spring for the mx vertical then
limber knotBOT
it's comparable to playing an FPS with a controller
gleaming rivet
tebex be like:
waxen panther
limber knotBOT
lmao, the MX Master 3 software has inbuilt synergy?
waxen panther
Yea
so did the mx master 2
it's okay, better than synergy 2
not as good as synergy 1
void void
*without clipboard sharing
waxen panther
yes
limber knotBOT
wait, what did they do with synergy 2? Oo
waxen panther
Synergy 2 was a royal fuck up
They recently discontinued it and are updating Synergy 1 again
it was just always broken
limber knotBOT
lol
void void
the captions for logitechs videos always suck don't they
THEY'RE IN ALL CAPS
apart from logitech ofc
elfin atlas
waxen panther
lol
void void
right, now how to get a logi mx vertical for cheap
like for the same price, i could get a mx master 3
minor badge
KennyTV, I'm starting to feel your pain lol
void void
having his discord disapearing?
wary spear
paper 1.16 when?
kindred storm
1.16 hasn't been released yet
wary spear
snapshots have
void void
.eta
kindred storm
so what
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
kindred storm
snapshots don't matter
wait for official release
you can't complain about paper not supporting a version which hasn't been released yet
waxen panther
lol
void void
people always complain, thats why we have a bot to do it for us
waxen panther
spigot doesn't release for snapshots so how would paper ?
void void
i think the people asking aren't aware of paper being based on spigot
waxen panther
void void
minor otter
What would you guys say is the best minecraft hosting website right now? From a non-bias perspective?
limber knotBOT
most use ovh ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
minor otter
ovh?
limber knotBOT
or hetzner if you are in europe
waxen panther
ovh and hetzner yea
but they're quite expensive if you're just starting out
shared hosts r shit dou
tame pendant
I really like grizzly.host. they're pretty small but insanely good. I asked the host to change my flags to use Aikar's flags and he did
If you're looking for shared hosting
minor otter
Yeah, Im not looking to make a big server. rather a smaller one, so I think I need to choose a shared host to start with at least.
Any thoughts on that?
worthy zenith
for hosting advice r/admincraft has good posts on that
void void
ye go to reddit
tame pendant
Yeah, shared hosting is good for small servers
blazing nebula
grizzled turret
cunning raft
why does her voice sound off in that video
blazing nebula
idk but I agree
cunning raft
like they were going for a robot voice but it just sounds off-putting
blazing nebula
yeah because it's clearly human, just distorted
blazing nebula
idk it sounded weird as fuck- is it some type of toys come to life thing?
cunning raft
pulsar wigeon
o
cunning raft
pulsar wigeon
LMAO
cunning raft
wiz
pulsar wigeon
myb
limber knotBOT
wow, their new logo sucks
blazing nebula
I like the new name though
pulsar wigeon
have to ask a dev for that
limber knotBOT
it changes literally nothing
cunning raft
they added a word to the name
blazing nebula
but I like it better
cunning raft
it's not worth a fucking 16 paragraph blog post
pulsar wigeon
this is how corporate branding works
blazing nebula
It's a rebrand
limber knotBOT
it's pontless
blazing nebula
they said they are going to reveal one of their biggest secrets
was it the new name?
blazing nebula
pog
cunning raft
That announcement is basically them acting like discord's brand team
blazing nebula
hello, fellow kids
void void
wait, how come in intellij some of my classes are white, some are blue and some are green?
cunning raft
White -> no changes
Blue -> changes
Green -> new
worthy zenith
thats git, blue is edited, green is new
void void
ah, makes sense
vernal moth
It's not only git, it does that for all vcs
waxen panther
this mojang trailer is weird as hell
blazing nebula
what other vcs do people use besides git
vernal moth
It's branding
What do you expect
Well, I still have to use svn for some repos at work
blazing nebula
work at discord marketing ;)
vernal moth
Gave devs use perforce
limber knotBOT
hmm let's c wut my script did 2day: Max pool size must be greater-than 0
void void
well i've replaced an enum with a class cos obfuscator
lets see how that works out hehe
limber knotBOT
ya idk what's up
limber knotBOT
although idc wut dis error mean cuz i dummi https://gist.github.com/RoboMWM/1d0880a9a4704fdb6f399e9963857fd6
void void
oh im an idiot, i put a bunch of single letter named classes public in a program currently full of one or two letter classes
limber knotBOT
o i c, updated in build 297
limber knotBOT
whenever there b a latest link with new API that always gets latest patch version ill update to dat c:
for dis serbur anyway
olive marlin
Was there a bug in Paper that could cause entities to disappear?
I noticed that our dragon egg is gone.
Coreprotect says it was placed there 4 months ago, but since then, I see no usage of it anywhere. I've checked nearby radius for usage of torches/pistons/... to see if someone broke it - nothing.
I've greped players inventories - found nothing.
I think I'll open the world file and search it, but need to find a good way to do that first - any recommendations / ideas?
pulsar wigeon
dragon eggs aren't entities
void void
what about when they're falling
olive marlin
Why did I think they are Tile Entities? Lol
void void
i'd prob summon another dragon egg and confiscate the other if i ever find it
olive marlin
I want to find the cause though ๐
I wonder if I can easily make it log to console what happens to the egg - for the future.
limber knotBOT
ugh dis parchment make me sad, i dont wanna b querying stuff just gib me download to latest patch version boo
void void
if that's google translate i swear it was better before
kindred storm
the name doesn't matter...
void void
who are you talking to?
gusty yacht
The .jar matters, talking to RoboMWM
void void
right neither of you are making sense
void void
ye geek
twin lagoon
epic
void void
400 mCPU? what
limber knotBOT
err'body hyped about their kubernetes
twin lagoon
olive marlin
Robo, can make 2 requests - first list 1.15 versions and then download specific one.
limber knotBOT
no
that doesn't change how wget downloads it
even if I were to do such a thing in bash
lament patio
400 milicpu sounds like 40% cpu
twin lagoon
100 mCPU is 0.1
void void
it's a shame it doesn't mean million
olive marlin
Well, you can use -O to tell it to save it with that specific version in name.
limber knotBOT
electronicboy or @electroniccat or wutever his dumcordian name is how can ur post still exist there
omg have u not read the post
olive marlin
Only newer?
limber knotBOT
well hecc it used to append a version number
it doesn't even do that now lol
Is there any way to get just a paperclip.jar without a version number appended? Using -N -O in wget results in WARNING: timestamping does nothing in combination with -O. See the manual for details
void void
why not just rename it after you wget it
limber knotBOT
I use -N so wget won't download if the version on server isn't newer
doesn't work if I use -O
fallen oracle
Yeah use -N
limber knotBOT
works perfectly with jenkins CI but not with dis parchment dum
cuz developer blood pressure rises with every error they observe
so, that feeling carries over
also, cuz u a big dumdum!
void void
ngl robo is making a great impression, insulting us
limber knotBOT
u must not b here long mr nirvana
limber knotBOT
ask mr @upper flicker who wants to zap it
wide chasm
Please don't mention project developers.
fallen oracle
What url are you using for parchment?
limber knotBOT
upper flicker
Forgive me, but I donโt care at all how you feel about one vs the other
limber knotBOT
c dat also y I try to -N
fallen oracle
Okay but doesn't parchment API go to Jenkins?
upper flicker
No
fallen oracle
I haven't looked at the actual code
pulsar wigeon
parchment hits cdn
fallen oracle
Ahh
pulsar wigeon
ultimately only grabs from jenkins for new builds essentially
fallen oracle
Alrighty cool
dull fiber
red geode
bright forge
oak slate
hi im developing a plugin for block logging and rollback but the mysql database dont work
crisp glacier
๐ฎ
twin lagoon
ok
crisp glacier
cerulean shuttle
Love to see so much new builds ๐คฉ Thanks for your work ๐
drowsy canyon
Guys, if i have a 40k x 40k map (each direction, 80k x 80k total blocks), how can i do the maths to know how many chunks i have?
it is (80.000 x 80.000) / 16 ??
brazen oracle
olive marlin
80.000^2/16^2 Will give you estimate.
Since in 80k there might be like half a chunk ending on one, and half a chunk ending on the other side, if that makes sense.
olive marlin
But in your case, it'll be perfect, I think.
limber knotBOT
it will be perfect
main rapids
drowsy canyon
oh wait, i did 16 x 2 instead of 16 x 16
olive marlin
25 million, yeah.
drowsy canyon
yep 25 milll
limber knotBOT
it whould be (80000/16)^2
drowsy canyon
ty ty !!
main rapids
~ Doubt of git
When I create a fork, does it not keep updated?
is it not updated when the principal is updated?
olive marlin
What you mean?
limber knotBOT
forks don't automatically update themselves with upstream
olive marlin
If you fork Paper and they push new commit, your fork is not updated automatically?
Yeah.
main rapids
I was with a fork from 1 year ago
๐
olive marlin
Just git origin add upstream <URL> and git fetch upstream to get changes. Then you can i.e. git merge upstream/master .
main rapids
ty! when using upstream, will it be automatic or should i apply it every time something new comes out?
olive marlin
Every time.
You can probably set it up in cronjob/some ci to do it automatically.
But need to handle what if upstreams fail to merge with your repo etc.
main rapids
Ok ty. I was thinking about manually selecting the patches approved by Aikar (after today) and putting it in the patch folder and using a /paper patch
I don't know much about git 
olive marlin
Hmm, github actions can run on schedule. I wonder if it'd be viable to just have it create a PR every few hours if upstream updates.
hexed pawn
zenith dragon
Anyone here have any suggestions/feedback on hosts? We're currently hosting with Crident and are looking to move to a host that can offer us the entire machine, rather than just the server which is proving to not be 'enough' for our server.
Someone recommended this host: https://www.ovh.com/world/dedicated-servers/game/game-1/
But we were wondering if anyone had any other recommendations! Cheers in advance.
olive marlin
OVH is good. Hetzner is OK, but their network hates american players (for EU server).
Generally a good place to check is reddit r/admincraft
zenith dragon
Cheers, I was just heading there to post too but knew everyone here is generally very knowledgeable.
olive marlin
(We switched from Hetzner to OVH Game1 a few months ago due to network issues with USA players on Hetzner).
zenith dragon
Oh that's handy info, thanks! I'll make sure to make note.
olive marlin
That's my only complain about Hetzner tbh. They are cheaper than OVH - but I've heard that their DDOS protection is not quite as good as OVH.
I believe in r/admincraft there's like a weekly/monthly thread with people's opinions about different hosts.
limber knotBOT
I wish there was an easier way to remove a folder from an rsnapshot backup than having to delete it from each increment :/
zenith dragon
@olive marlin there is, sat reading through it now! Thanks for the feedback!
modest gorge
any ideas why my players see the void for up to 30 seconds when teleporting to chunks that were unloaded? tps is 20, server hardward/perf is quite good, bandwidth isn't an issue
slim nymph
you using no tick view?
mojangs scheduler is in leafs words, pepega or w/e, and the more you throw at it, more it chokes
disclaimer: I have no idea what a pepega is
latent valve
void void
i'm operating under the premise that it means idiots words
limber knotBOT
"Allow server startup for those poor people running <1G Xmx (commit: df43f82)" you guys can run 1.13+ server with that low memory?
pearl vapor
Using GriefPrevention, does anyone know how to give someone a certain amount of claim blocks using commands? I'm trying to make it as a reward for voting on my server.
void void
grand comet
void void
you can run it with 500mb if you want to, it's just it's not a good experience
limber knotBOT
Idk may be 1.15.2 way better now but remember 1.13 when with 1GB server just dropped with out of memory error
void void
it's better now
void void
and it has can't keep up with just running
olive marlin
View distance 2, peaceful mode?
limber knotBOT
i've run a server with 512MB with no plugins, it's a pretty alright survival experience for four people
void void
thing is that often if ur running a server with that little ram, the machine is probably low spec as well
like a raspberry pi or really cheap and bad hosting
limber knotBOT
yeah i mean i was running it on a cheap ovh vps
still was a perfectly acceptable experience
unborn ravine
worthy zenith
i think you can, but i have a feeling that will get messy very quickly
but there is an option to convert directly from eclipse
unborn ravine
hi guys, i applied the individual mob cap feature, but mobs in the nether literally arent spawning
any ideas?
like we have a wither skele farm set up with a perimiter, but literally no mobs are on the spawning platform
subtle hinge
modest gorge
@slim nymph sorry missed the reply, yes using no tick view of 14 and view-distance 8
quasi iris
huh this is new
the only person i recognize talking this morning is zbk
and phoenix616
limber knotBOT
morning
void void
timezones
limber knotBOT
anybody now using WAT can gtfo :P
void void
yes, what happened to the UPPS time system we pioneered
limber knotBOT
*not
void void
i was expecting the world to have switched over to the universal pigeon pooping speed time system
uncut moss
phoenix is there a way to have guipageelements not play the click sound
warm beacon
limber knotBOT
added a setSilent method on the GUI and the elements for you :)
limber knotBOT
just need to wait for the build is finished and then you can use 1.4.2-SNAPSHOT ;D
uncut moss
yep
latent valve
Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 182580ms or 3651 ticks behind
latent valve
did a oopsie worldedit 
static badge
worldedit pulled an oopsie on your server
pulsar wigeon
i'll ban u
wicked birch
Feelsbad I suddenly became FullStack Dev on my school project. UI team is useless
uncut moss
i hate it when i suddenly become a fullstack dev
tawdry cloud
limber knotBOT
this is what happens when people let me make UI: https://github.com/Phoenix616/TFT-Overlay-Java#more-images lol
valid fulcrum
twin lagoon
why is there a pinkie pie on your jenkins
ember crag
This is what I run my vanilla server on.
I need to reinstall Debian though
Messed up a cross-grade to x86_64 pretty badly.
void void
urban marlin
spice finch
phoenix, not bad
abstract scarab
limber knotBOT
Mโicโhaโelโ: why not?
main rapids
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
uncut moss
i've had to invalidate intellij caches way more on 2020 than 2019
but this time that wasn't the issue
forgot to add the repo
limber knotBOT
what the record of paper builds per day?
void void
what the hell, this strawpoll is saying that most people prefer crunchy Cheetos rather than puffy
cosmic raft
monsters
static badge
voted for crunchy
limber knotBOT
my favorite bag of MSG is doritos
uncut moss
this is extremely annoying
cosmic raft
@uncut moss what is that even trying to show
uncut moss
that when i remove the comma because i want an empty vararg, then use arrow right to get out of the statement it makes a new one
it's pissing me off
fleet holly
gleaming rivet
What does people use to manage worlds? Like having more worlds than just the standard ones
Is it still multiverse and multiworld or is there a better alternative?
fallen oracle
Hyperverse
gleaming rivet
Its WIP tho
gleaming rivet
Oh yikes its the same guy who makes FAWE who makes hyperverse..
limber knotBOT
same guy
gleaming rivet
That cost being it not working at all? 
@minor badge where do you get ur builds of multiverse from? All sources seems outdated
limber knotBOT
their stuff has always worked for me tbh, Jesse did do some dangerous async stuff in the past but other than that I've actually haven't had many issues
that being said idk how well it's being maintained by others
minor badge
bukkit dev @gleaming rivet
for a wrapper around an api that hardly changes, there aint much to update
limber knotBOT
I know the multiverse dev whom I can't recall his name right now was planning to do some 3.0 stuff
gleaming rivet
In my book fawe is a no go, it scans ur plugins for a example
limber knotBOT
just like I plan and have worked on v20 stuff for GP
wut
scans ur plugins why lol
minor badge
paper wants to scan too, in order to nuke ETF lol
limber knotBOT
pls source on scanning plogenz
gleaming rivet
Paper i can understand but why would a WE plugin need to do so
limber knotBOT
pls source
minor badge
perhaps to find incompatibilities?
limber knotBOT
also they aint google so i dont care
minor badge
metrics you didnt turn off?
limber knotBOT
but I'm still curious
kindred storm
FAWE scans your plugins. Why?
minor badge
does it matter tho, oh no they find all the plugin names and authors 
limber knotBOT
I think I do recall them getting annoyed with users complaining/lying about stuff tho. or something. maybe I'm thinking of something else. But no ill intent I'm sure
gleaming rivet
I did not experience it myself but i saw multiple people complaining in here about it
limber knotBOT
I know really
....
so, people have just complained
you haven't actually seen any evidence for it...?
quasi iris
what do you mean by paper scanning your plugins to "nuke ETF"?
gleaming rivet
They posted logs and so on
minor badge
you have to remember these people are the same who report "DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER", laukage
gleaming rivet
So evidence was present
limber knotBOT
like, I was mad when I found out the MobHunting dood forcibly enabled Metrics back when Metrics broke with that stupid annoying error
minor badge
@quasi iris ETF is horrible, so Aikar has been seriously contemplating about making Paper just not load it
limber knotBOT
what logs
gleaming rivet
you have to remember these people are the same who report "DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER", laukage
@minor badge true.. but i don't trust fawe, and i never will
minor badge
your loss
limber knotBOT
there are valid reasons to not trust FAWE, but yours aint it
gleaming rivet
Nah ur loss* when ur world gets fucked by it
minor badge
Welcome to the world of backups my man
quasi iris
ETF = EntityTrackerFixer ?
minor badge
yes, anika
quasi iris
never heard of it until now
gleaming rivet
there are valid reasons to not trust FAWE, but yours aint it
@RoboMWM#0000 i guess, i never said that wad why i won't use it tho
limber knotBOT
I still wanna know where FAWE scans plogenz :c
minor badge
Plugin which hardly works, and if it does, it breaks stuff, yet people insist on using it
quasi iris
I could see it breaking holograms, redstone mechanics, and item frames at first glance
limber knotBOT
anything that says performance will get dem cliks
gleaming rivet
ETF does basically no performance improvement..
limber knotBOT
thx
kindred storm
for (Plugin p : Bukkit.getPluginManager().getPlugins()) {
kindred storm
then appends the descriptions
minor badge
was about to link that
limber knotBOT
I ask for that too wen ppl report issues to GP
plugins like.... Powerranks... omg
that UNCANCEL BlockBreakEvent
minor badge
one of these days i'll rewrite GriefPrevention, but that day isnt here quiiite yet :/
gleaming rivet
Uncancel
limber knotBOT
@minor badge look at dev/v20 branch
minor badge
perhaps tomorrow
limber knotBOT
I'll take any help with the v20
gleaming rivet
one of these days i'll rewrite GriefPrevention, but that day isnt here quiiite yet :/
@minor badge are you the original author or?
minor badge
no
but as long as u dont do the config fuckery in main class as original author did, im happy for your work, robo
limber knotBOT
heccin annoying ppl r like omg it no work and at this point it's like... u have powerranks dont u
lol config is something I spent some time thinking about
so I implemented something where it's a oneliner to add new config options
minor badge
also pleaseeee make griefprevention be specifically for griefprevention (configuration if you need to support all orig features), i dont want softmutes and shitty filtering lol
minor badge
personally been considering abusing kotlin delegates for config values tbh
limber knotBOT
.b griefprevention issue 63
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gleaming rivet
Will the way permissions work get a rewrite too?
limber knotBOT
what about them
limber knotBOT
ya permissions will make more sense in v20
gleaming rivet
It won't "work" untill you give them the full gp admin perm
limber knotBOT
I do know some of the perms are weird tho
gleaming rivet
And that would make more sense in v20?
limber knotBOT
permissions is low on the list right now compared to other stuff but it'll have to be added, and it shall make sense to at least me c:
minor badge
so long as eavesdropsign means specifically that, then youve fixed perms tbj
tbh*
and now i go to sleep! good night; i'll have a look at dev/v20 tomorrow
limber knotBOT
imma make it one permission for all admin stuff <:
gleaming rivet
...
So it basically won't change then?
Thats kinda how it is now
The griefprevention.admin perm
minor badge
parent perms are fine, given you have children which work
gleaming rivet
Some don't xD
Like the sign thing, i haven't been able to get it working atleast
Kinda excited for v20 now ๐
minor badge
(cmi signspy doe)
limber knotBOT
hmm, I should maybe do something like FAWE does for issue reports
pretty useful
cmi
gleaming rivet
Do they even respond to issues 
void void
tired heath
Hi, could you recommend me a random teleport plugin what runs stable with 1.15.2 and does not teleport players to unsafe loactions?
limber knotBOT
mine
tired heath
Except of the bot ๐
inner siren
waxen panther
dumbircian
limber knotBOT
o i c u tried and as u found out it rly doesnt work now does it huh i wonder why dat is
tired heath
Well, lets test it out
celest coyote
lagged out from chunk loading
limber knotBOT
nope
heady spear
I want a plugin that griefs my server
celest coyote
well thats what happend
limber knotBOT
and its just one chunk it was waiting for 45 seconds
yes chunk load
the chunk did not load at all
well it was trying
so maybe that's why
but why did it not load?
thats the question
gud question
bad disk?
corruption?
no
celest coyote
well your spawn isn't loading then
celest coyote
is it loaded as spawn chunks?
tired heath
sadly wild tp causing java errors
uncut moss
itโs both
cosmic raft
did someone say crash
cosmic raft
.remind -w kashike 6mo give wiz coal for christmas
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 6 months from now.
pulsar wigeon
i'll use it to set you on fire
cosmic raft
rude
vestal jasper
.remind -w Vicarious 1y tell leaf he's dum
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 12 months from now.
void void
.8ball is leaf secretely a genius?
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Yes
void void
kek
vestal jasper
.8ball is he also dumb?
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Cannot predict now
vestal jasper
.8ball is he also dumb?
limber knotBOT
shakes the magic 8 ball... Naturally
vestal jasper
Ez
void void
don't make the 8 ball change it's mind
void void
it replied yes for being a genius
vestal jasper
I only reask if it doesn't give a yes or a no
Ok I don't give a fuck if it said he's a genius. He's a dumb genius.
cosmic raft
yeah, he did not get it to change its mind about that question
he asked a new question
waxen panther
agree
agile creek
gentle nest
is there a way to change the max durability of an item only using resource pack/data pack/vanilla commands?
limber knotBOT
no
pulsar wigeon
teccchnicalllyyyyyyy
you could just swap out an item when it gets to a certain durability and tag it somehow
but like lmfao
limber knotBOT
lol
best way to do this is to just handle durability manually and only use the bar to display it to the client
wont't solve F3+H display but it's as close as you can get imo
pulsar wigeon
yea but like...with datapacks
limber knotBOT
technically you can do that with datapacks, yeah
green tundra
pulsar wigeon
yes, masochists exist
limber knotBOT
phoenix616 is bloodmc or blood or bloodmasked in here
or whoever else is on the dumcord side
I mean the org is by Luck
at least the commits are
runs
@Vey007 he has an org named GriefPrevention and all it does is redirect ppl to the repo
yes
I asked him
and he's like it's blood's or whatever
and he doesn't have access
@Vey007 is there a @blood or @bloodmc or @bloodmasked in here
looks like it: https://i.imgur.com/76xHBMW.png xD
o
bloodshot prolly then
void void
limber knotBOT
ayy @muted niche can you mention at the very least that your new plugin replaces the GP sponge plugin? Been constantly getting users asking me if GP is deprecated
and if you could do more, that griefprevention org, if you wouldn't mind perhaps at least mentioning it's for sponge, and/or also providing a link to the bukkit version?
sinful zenith
limber knotBOT
imma assume nobody does TDD/BDD here?
cuz I'm trying and I just can't think in that way
worthy zenith
doing that with a minecraft server will just end in pain and suffering, and more work than its worth
limber knotBOT
ya if I were to ever explain why tho... I can't cuz am dum
but really ya I don't know why wen u can mock almost everything
worthy zenith
well good luck mocking the whole minecraft server. because thats alot of work. and then you have to also mock all of its bugs too. and tons of stuff will change with each update over time so good luck with that. You could probably do TDD on a small scale for a small plugin, if you dont need to mock a whole lot.
limber knotBOT
for my plogen
is all i need
wen i do dum stuff like
!= when I'm supposed to ==
which I've done far more often that I want to admit
I already have my IDE error on empty control statements lol
well there is MockBukkit
worthy zenith
i think thats not maintaned any more
golden gust
Yea, it's k
limber knotBOT
but it really depends on what you want to test tbh
golden gust
The issue is the whole concepts of mocks against something like bukkit, it creates a huuuuge caveat
limber knotBOT
like I do some basic parsing tests in MineDown and ChestShop does similar things to ensure sign checks and some event listeners keep working properly
limber knotBOT
minedown is great btw
thanks xD
once upon a time in a CS classes we had to implement a portion of grep
it has some oddities though :S
I hated that project
each day I'd spend time thinking about it over and over and constantly confusing myself
I was gonna make a book documentation plugin I think
don't think I did though and just baked it in my uber mountaindewritoes plogen instead
using minedown
Think I tried making it do auto-pagination
don't recall if I ever figured that out or not
Ya I don't think I did, I did have it parse \p for new pages tho which was fun to figure out
string.split("\p") ? xD
idk ill find the class
but, uh, I guess it gets annoying if you want to do that automatically when you have components
amber hinge
sage pier
anyone wanna help w a vanilla server name?
worthy zenith
Vanilla Survival
blazing nebula
Vanilla Minecraft Server
limber knotBOT
A Minecraft Server
mighty dirge
anyone knows what would cause this when transfering files?
half of the zipped files dont work
vestal falcon
void void
celest coyote
bad ftp?
potent pebble
golden gust
check your transfer mode
limber knotBOT
I put in a lot of work to make this report. Reproduction steps are pretty simple. I have been able to reproduce it in such a way that strongly points to GP. Please give it a try.
well sorry for commenting on my recollection of GPs design
even if I were to reproduce doesn't help find the issue
void void
limber knotBOT
cant tell if chat is dead
worn pasture
poke it just to check
potent warren
$ poke chat
irc: poke: command not found
golden gust
Yes, it's from the handshake iirc
cosmic raft
lmao
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potent warren
kashike, you play terraria, right?
cosmic raft
no
potent warren
oof
fierce kestrel
slim nymph
@fierce kestrel Paper is not "just a more performant" lol
fierce kestrel
i'm stating my knowledge
slim nymph
Spigot is maintenance mode software that barely gets updates
fierce kestrel
and it may not be right
fierce kestrel
from what I heard of it before
slim nymph
spigot has quite a few dupes and other bugs still
fierce kestrel
it was a more performant version of spigot with patches
slim nymph
but as a developer, our API will be your best thing ever found
fierce kestrel
can you link me to the javadocs?
slim nymph
fierce kestrel
so I can use this as a drop-in replacement for my existing 1.15.2 jar?
slim nymph
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/master/Spigot-API-Patches to get a better idea on stuff, see patch titles
yes
slim nymph
fierce kestrel
@slim nymph am I able to build plugins with PaperSpigot that work with regular spigot?
limber knotBOT
@<Procez [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
slim nymph
not if you use our API, but note that Paper has more users than Spigot now for 1.15.2
so, just enjoy the good life and dont worry about spigot
fierce kestrel
alright then
polar sonnet
Any idea where I can get a simple vps for testing purposes for like a day
polar sonnet
like free lmao?
fierce kestrel
huh, my plugin didn't work when switching to paper
potent fossil
digitalocean is nice
fierce kestrel
the issue looks to be that I'm using classgraph to hook into every event
and I'm not able to use my plugin with paper due to that
polar sonnet
what plugin
fierce kestrel
it's an unreleased one I'm working on
slim nymph
what happened?
fierce kestrel
I tried to use ClassGraph to get the subclasses of Event
potent fossil
inb4 aikar blows up
potent fossil
that is not a great way to go about that
bukkit has a way to register a global listener
fierce kestrel
huh, can you suggest me more about this?
slim nymph
no it doesnt
fierce kestrel
i've just moved over to paper because it looks promising
fierce kestrel
ClassInfoList events = new ClassGraph() .enableClassInfo() .scan() //you should use try-catch-resources instead .getClassInfo(Event.class.getName()) .getSubclasses() .filter(info -> !info.isAbstract());
it's the .getSubclasses() part
slim nymph
what is the error
fierce kestrel
trying to copy and paste it
potent fossil
fierce kestrel
i'll just send a screenshot
potent fossil
and correct, it was a loop so not a single method to register a global event listener but close enough
@fierce kestrel use a pastebin
?paste
.paste
limber knotBOT
Please paste large logs to a pastebin: https://paste.gg
fierce kestrel
yes, but I can't copy and paste it
slim nymph
thats gonna be missing papers events or plugins events lol
fierce kestrel
for some reason it won't copy part of it
potent fossil
@slim nymph yea you can easily modify which package it loads or specify multiple packages
that's just one way of doing it
fierce kestrel
slim nymph
did you do this.logger or anything in onEnable
fierce kestrel
not really
slim nymph
well waht is 269
fierce kestrel
ClassInfoList events = new ClassGraph()
.enableClassInfo()
.scan() //you should use try-catch-resources instead
.getClassInfo(Event.class.getName())
.getSubclasses()
.filter(info -> !info.isAbstract());
try {
for (ClassInfo event : `) {
Class<? extends Event> eventClass = (Class<? extends Event>) Class.forName(event.getName());
eventlist.put(event.getName(), eventClass);
if (Arrays.stream(eventClass.getDeclaredMethods()).anyMatch(method ->
method.getParameterCount() == 0 && method.getName().equals("getHandlers"))) {
//We could do this further filtering on the ClassInfoList instance instead,
//but that would mean that we have to enable method info scanning.
//I believe the overhead of initializing ~20 more classes
//is better than that alternative.
Bukkit.getPluginManager().registerEvent(eventClass, listener,
EventPriority.NORMAL, executor, this);
}
}
} catch (ClassNotFoundException e) {
throw new AssertionError("Scanned class wasn't found", e);
}``` .getSubclasses()
this is 269
potent fossil
wowza
slim nymph
nothing about that should break in paper, whats .getClassInfo say will cause it to return null
fierce kestrel
i'm not sure
anyways i'm going to look at @potent fossil 's global event listener and use that next time
potent fossil
its @vernal moth's actually
potent fossil
also note what aikar said, if you want paper's events you need to add that package
fierce kestrel
good night
potent fossil
the gist only has bukkit's by default
potent fossil
lots of stuff, performance improvement, forge support, too many to list
mossy marten
@slim nymph just fyi, no mean to offend, but since your tree map value collection iteration order differs from that of the original linked hash set's, I'd figure simply removing that sorting would be a better choice (for that brigadier debate)
slim nymph
i agree a plain hashmap would suffice for this now that its even more clear iteration doesnt mtter
i thought it migth of been used to least show alphabetical but doesnt seem its used at all
but considering mojang doesnt seem to even be looking, ill worry if they actually show interest in pulling
itll prob just sit there dead
grizzled vault
wild turtle
polar sonnet
ovh
void zenith
sour aurora
still garnet
forest palm
magic pier
void void
well i was an idiot
turns out the mouse latency i was feeling was cos of my dpi setting
polar sonnet
gg's
potent fossil
noob moment
void void
i'll probably still end up buying a logi mx vertical, cos this one has signalling issues sometimes
must be interference from my motherboard
void void
i've got an RSI, i have to
and like the only reason i have it is becuase i bought a larger mouse that made my hand arch a bit more
coral laurel
minor otter
What is the best anti cheat? Spartan or matrix?
twin lagoon
both of them suck
twin lagoon
i'd probably stick to ncp or AAC w/ celebrimbor's ghost profile
potent fossil
properly configged (celebrimbor ^), AAC is a badass
minor otter
Does his configuration cost money?
potent fossil
yes, for good reason
though it's fairly cheap
its bc he makes it to match your server specifically
and also lifetime fixes afaik
twin lagoon
i've bought lifetime years ago
twin lagoon
not really
minor otter
ah
twin lagoon
he does't do server-specific configs anymore
minor otter
how much does it cost?
potent fossil
orly
vestal jasper
That's fuckin cheaper than I thought
minor otter
what. thats more than the aac is worth itself haha
twin lagoon
yeah but AAC without a good config is useless
i don't use any anticheats anymore though
vestal jasper
You're also paying for personalized service. You're paying for his time and skill.
twin lagoon
if i need one i'll use Verus but it's not 1.15 atm
void void
aac is most effective with a good config
vestal jasper
AAC is effectively crowd funded.
void void
i've not seen a better anticheat than AAC so far
twin lagoon
verus
void void
anything else
potent fossil
$40?
twin lagoon
not really
potent fossil
it's $14 you plebs
twin lagoon
aac is probably still best for most servers
void void
lots of stuff still works on spartan
potent fossil
@minor otter it's quite cheap, $14 and you get the optimized config, ghost config, and a few other things
fierce wedge
potent fossil
not $40 like said above
potent fossil
.lart City
limber knotBOT
forces City to stare at an incredibly frustrating and seemingly never-ending IRC political debate.
fierce wedge
am tryna get more info on that crashy lol
spice finch
I used to use AAC, but it didn't work for me on 1.15.2
fierce wedge
there I'm undercover now
heady spear
okay
tepid fulcrum
limber knotBOT
grabs a machine gun and riddles City's body with bullets.
potent fossil
It's better this way
spice finch
heady spear
Ever since I had my surgery I've been getting weird inflammations inside of this vein on my arm lol
they fucked up hardcore and now I don't have morphine so I don't like it
minor otter
If i buy AAC and this https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/aacadditionpro.33590/
do I get Celebrimbor's config included?
twin lagoon
no
heady spear
im gonna go look at cows and stuff, be social
and not distanced
weather nice, might even bring ๐ท
minor otter
I thought you did @twin lagoon since it says on contributors that Celebrimor overview and config
potent fossil
no, but celebrimbor includes a config for AACAdditionPro as well as AAC optimized + ghost and AACPlus + lifetime updates and support
heady spear
does AAC stop admins from going into creative mode and breaking the world
it is very annoying cheat :/
minor otter
haha
void void
don't make them admin...
twin lagoon
how's hegemony
potent fossil
better than DyescapeDelayscape
heady spear
๐
twin lagoon
nimble pasture