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limber knotBOT
fallen oracle
.ping
upper flicker
.remind -d -w 184165847940464641 4h change pfp to cat
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 4 hours from now.
vestal jasper
Ty
vestal jasper
Me using cat fpf depends on your success
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mods
vestal jasper
@upper flicker later
fallen oracle
Sir that was not an authorized ping.
vestal jasper
I'll ping z when I want
vestal jasper
I'll ping him again
fallen oracle
:O
vestal jasper
@ z
waxen panther
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@<broccolai [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
waxen panther
vestal jasper
Broc I'll block you
waxen panther
waxen panther
i fixed a CRITICAL bug in aikars timings the other day too
idk how servers ran before the fix tbh
fallen oracle
Bruh
void void
lol
vestal jasper
Worth
toxic vale
void void
having a mental breakdown and I want to dip my server project and this guy
this guy just doesn't mind me doing it
pulsar wigeon
lmfao
waxen panther
wtf did i just read
waxen panther
i gotta read this bat now
void void
no lol don't
mortal zinc
@void void I've been in the same place you are in terms of a mental breakdown, don't need to go into any specifics though
honestly the whole experience made me want to work harder
don't know your situation though
that's tough man
void void
I'll end up regretting transferring ownership because something inside me won't let me quit
elfin gulch
It's hard to let things go
void void
I have so many things I wanna let go but something inside me literally anchored it
warm anchor
Just do it.
mortal zinc
my best advice to you is not to make any decisions now, but make a decision to group with your staff team if you have any and try to sort things out
warm anchor
Never look back. If that's giving that much mental pressure lol
void void
dead staff team? lulz
mortal zinc
just you?
upper flicker
@vestal jasper change to your cat picture
mortal zinc
started what exactly, wanting to give away ownership?
mortal zinc
how long ago was that?
so you haven't had an engaged staff team since you started the server?
void void
no I did, I meant like a few after I started
mortal zinc
oh
void void
I don't really know anymore
I wanna drop it but something inside's me stopping me do it
letting things go is so hard to do ._.
mortal zinc
probably pride
void void
:/
mortal zinc
i had to let something go that was really valuable to me, when i resigned from a minecraft community
void void
I don't really know what I've got myself into
mortal zinc
but sometimes what you ought to do is re-evaluate yourself and whether your current way of doing things is necessary to keep everything flourishing
void void
hahahah my inactive manager
mortal zinc
you can always create something again, and it might not even be the same community, but you can learn and grow and bring something new to the table next time
void void
ughh
ever since my old successful network went down, I don't really know where I'm headed down the road when it comes to minecraft servers
mortal zinc
i get it, managing a community isn't a simple thing
void void
I'll probably enjoy 1 month of not having to worry about trying to get a server out
and then go back
great, I'm gonna have to block good friends from this
forcing me to come back
-.-
vestal jasper
@upper flicker change yours
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ye z
upper flicker
Link me the cat one
waxen panther
upper flicker
am cat
waxen panther
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god damn it's so weird seeing that as your profile picture
I'm so used to the one eye
jagged egret
eye see what you mean
magic ice
someone add that as an emoji here pls
placid spear
waxen panther
Kitty joining in 
stiff yarrow
Kitties π±
jagged egret
anticipation intensifies
ancient bolt
god damnit someone cook me food
fallen oracle
Whatchu want fam?
waxen panther
$10 + flight expenses
ancient bolt
pizza would be good
ancient bolt
will you do that for me bby
jagged egret
well teh good thing is @placid spear brought pizza
upper flicker
Sure, I need your legal name, address, social security number, date of birth, and motherβs maiden name
placid spear
daaaamn, Discord why you spreading this info?
waxen panther
and those magical 3 numbers on the back of your credit card
ancient bolt
666
pallid pivot
nocturne drum
steel yacht
waxen panther
stiff yarrow
Hmm is it time for a new avatar... but which one to use 
waxen panther
use the cat
void void
let's all put that pfp
give me some time
i'll find high res one
wait it's vic's cat?
there
nossr your turn
lmao nossr went offline
magic ice
DragonProxy is archived
They've joined the Geyser team now
void void
gg
vestal jasper
It's my cat yes
vestal jasper
No high-res because it's a crop of a low light image
void void
smoky cargo
south comet
tame trail
limber knotBOT
nice case
void void
pog
void void
mooods
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: cat fpf
waxen panther
@vestal jasper 
limber knotBOT
Reminder for @vestal jasper: change pfp to cat
vestal jasper
Cat pfp
empty root
limber knotBOT
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/3318 << Can anyone please check this issue and confirm it probably won't cause some kind of level corruption?
My best guess is not, but it would be nice to have a second set of eyes :)
void void
that's been present since 1.13 days iirc
limber knotBOT
alright, sounds fine enough
void void
appears once in a blue moon or more often
from something as simple as player breaking a chest under water
limber knotBOT
every single time you break a waterlogged tile entity
fair enough, I'll pretend it doesn't exist then :)
sharp sentinel
So this is the most gameplay related question I've asked in the past 6 years... But is it possible if I make my own village etc, that it'll start spawning pillager raids?
Like make houses, heal a zombie villager, etc
I assume it needs to be marked as a village in the structure system to get pillagers, iron golems, etc
fierce temple
How to use cpufrequtil and install them for turbo boost?
polar sonnet
whats currently the "best" free anticheat for 1.15
void void
looking for free because cannot afford one?
sharp sentinel
I answered my own question - https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Tutorials/Creating_a_village
This is my favourite part of the page. The example well design
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@void void smelly
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:0
tepid tundra
mighty flower
cosmic raft
ancient bolt
ur face
I wish intellij had more contract annotations than just nullability and @Contract
marking an int as positive only or within a specific range would be dope
void void
yes
olive garden
well, they are working towards that
with @Unmodifiable and @UnmodifiableView
it gives you and the IDE hints
wise pebble
void void
what abomniation is this
mental skiff
ancient bolt
damn I love rust
interacting with low-level APIs, but still super clean, but with full error handling and full safety https://gist.github.com/DemonWav/938a050a28c220a590cd325fec568693
olive shoal
Wrong chat, sorry
void void
pretty
vestal onyx
ancient bolt
neat
green turret
@wise pebble please exercise social distancing, even in code. The recommended distance between statements, expressions, braces, etc. is 1 space. if () {, not if(){.
void void
i didn't like rust either for... well good 2 years
picked golang
ye but lower level?
but safer?
green turret
I tried Rust for a new small project. It wasn't for me, but probably primarily because I'd never done anything else in it before. It's just so busy. Then I swapped over to Go, and got a little further, but still kinda hate it.
void void
ye now ur just memeing
green turret
I actually first tried C, but then when I finally managed to get an HTTP connection going to call an API, I gave up because apparently it's very different with SSL, so I said fuck it.
void void
i wrote amazing stuff with C
libuv is pretty cool for that as well
event loops n stuff
ancient bolt
go is such a dumpster fire of a language omg don't get me started
ancient bolt
had to write it for work for a year and I got intimately familiar with how shit it is
green turret
What I wanted to do was make a TUI for Trello that worked kinda like the ranger file manager. So that's drawing in the terminal, which is just cancer, and it's REST API stuff over SSL.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://ayende.com/blog/185441-A/using-openssl-with-libuv -- Using OpenSSL with libuv - Ayende @ Rahien: "Dec 11, 2018 ... Setup libuv to accept a connection; Setup OpenSSL with the server side configuration; When a new connection comes through, setup a..."
green turret
But then I need to actually link stuff π¦
green turret
So this, for me, is kinda like that guy yesterday who was like "I don't know any programming, how do I go about making a custom Paper optimized for Factions? I will ask the community for help."
I should just not embark on big projects in languages I don't know π
And I should learn to identify the bigness of a project before calling it "small".
Today I want to get started on this idea I have about extracting data and relations from the git log of a project. I found a Go library that'll probably be good for it.
void void
though, depending on a project; you can usually pull it off like this:
writing user facing logic in higher level language (REST, database stuff etc.) and if you need access to native APIs then you can set up very simple solutions which you can communicate with over e.g unix socket or tcp
i did one in clojure & rust combo
well i still work on it
but ye
green turret
So you're doing like a client-server kinda setup, similar to X?
void void
not really, more comparable to microservices like thingy
green turret
Yeah I mean, at work I split responsibilities along network boundaries. No reason why you couldn't do it for a local setup of a single program.
Depending on performance and stuff of course.
void void
my reason for doing so is that i wouldn't give root permissions to jvm tbh; also calling native stuff gets clumsy there imho
green turret
But what are you doing that needs root and native stuff?
void void
zfs
filesystem snapshotting
well technically i could shell out lol
grant sudo access to the user running the process
green turret
I see. Is it for backups?
void void
ye
green turret
I don't usually work on low level stuff like that.
But it does remind me... One thing I'd like to try to "wrap up" in a type of infrastructure component is a plain MySQL database. So at work we use DynamoDB a lot, mostly because it's fully managed and has point in time recovery and stuff like that. For certain things because of its crazy scalability in terms of concurrency. But sometimes a document store is just not a great fit for a data model. With DynamoDB you need to know your access patterns before you lay out the data, but with a relational database, you usually don't have to worry about it because the query engine is so good.
So it's very easy to pick DynamoDB, simply because it's managed and scaling is not really something we have to think about with it. But with e.g. MySQL, RDS is relatively expensive and you get very few resources, so concurrency is very limited. But that's kinda sorta easy to work around with message queues. The big problem is that it's no longer managed in the same sense. You gotta worry about backups and monitoring in general on a completely different level. Would be nice to have a cheap, "sorted" MySQL option.
RDS is trash because it's really just a web UI on top of a MySQL instance, and you're paying x2 for it. They do have something called Aurora which is supposedly more managed, but also the min price is like 100 bucks per month for something tiny.
But if I could make a Terraform module that just takes care of all of it, that might make it more of a viable option. But then having to configure username/password everywhere...
I should have just become a plumber instead. Then I could have also fixed my leaking tap in the kitchen...
Alright, git repo fun project, go!
void void
what's so good in terraform?
swift sand
green turret
You mean why would it make things easier in this case?
void void
no i mean terra itself
smells like clone of nix, but with web ui and uses their own non turing complete custom language
green turret
Oh, well, it's just infrastructure as code. I'm not zealous about it.
void void
or well, nixops to be specific
green turret
Never heard of nixops
void void
.g nixops
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/NixOS/nixops -- NixOS/nixops: NixOps is a tool for deploying to NixOS ... -...: "NixOps is a tool for deploying to NixOS machines in a network or the cloud. Key features include: Declarative: NixOps determines and carries out..."
green turret
So the way we use it is that every "system" has its own infrastructure repo with dev and live sub projects. Both dev and live use a common modules directory that expresses each service's infrastructure.
And it has providers for a bunch of different things, such as AWS resources. If I need a new DynamoDB table, I could make it in the AWS console, in the CLI, or I could stick it in a Terraform file for the project I'm working on. The nice thing about Terraform then is that applying all the changes to live is just a matter of cd'ing into the live folder and running tf apply, and then I have a copy of the infrastructure on our live env.
green turret
Yeah it looks like NixOps is like the "old man yells at cloud" approach to all of this.
But essentially the same thing.
void void
lol, correct
i remember when i tried to make machines more consistent with saltstack
ended up not getting it working
bunch of dum yaml files once again and other clusterfuck
then i discovered nix(os)
nothing else has worked as reliably as nix for deploying stuff for me
heck, i remember when i accidentally configured 2x1tb disks as raid0 with zfs; wanted to change to raid1 which of course involved nuking whole zfs pool
reinstalled whole system very fast, basically copied over /etc/nixos, data i had and that was it
heck, configuration files for programs are also generated; endless nightmares with patching existing ones ugh
green turret
Yeah so that's one of the scary things about Terraform. We just hired a new guy, and I reviewed his code, and it's just so messy. I'm very nervous about giving him access to Terraform D: One removed module and a reckless apply and he'll have nuked a table or bucket or instance.
green turret
Yeah so I haven't actually looked into ways to prevent destruction. We're only two people with Terraform access right now, and both of us are very careful, but it's pure discipline.
void void
written in HCL yeah? technically you could force it to run through CI pipeline or something
where you'll do automatic checks
HCL -> JSON, compare changes
if x module with destructive results is removed, fail
void void
ye
iirc you could turn hcl into json; or if hcl is more widely supported then use its parser directly w.e
green turret
I liked it better when it was just myself working on the backend stuff. No one else to fuck shit up xD
olive garden
Demon, there is actually a @Range annotation now :)
severe sleet
anyone can give me free download link of umsoea r16 or 15
olive garden
severe sleet
hey please give me free download link of umsoea r16 or 15
granite salmon
imagine paying for shaders
severe sleet
but I have no card π¦
severe sleet
π
severe sleet
is there any free realistic testure pack like that?
void void
stop being cheap ass, cool stuff always cost money lol.
severe sleet
π¦
granite salmon
57k a month
severe sleet
but I ask about texture pack -.-
granite salmon
people are really that desperate π
void void
FREE STUFF PLS RIGHT NOW :(((((((((((((
granite salmon
no trigary
ancient bolt
dope, got all my common code and jni code setup to use unix sockets, now all I gotta do is convert paperd proper to use this new (simpler) code
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
granite salmon
thank you michael
severe sleet
there is too many cracked player in Bangladesh. so...
twin lagoon
quite frankly
ancient bolt
neat
olive garden
no
twin lagoon
we don't really give a shit about your cracked server or playerbase
granite salmon
qinak i haven't heard much
olive garden
define work
granite salmon
nether gonna lag now!
tawny owl
Aight. Indeed, time will tell. Probably RIP nether
granite salmon
end next!
twin lagoon
they are working on improving it though
olive garden
I don't know how Eclipse inspections work lol
granite salmon
new TPS = 10
olive garden
but the annotation is still an annotation...
it will be there to hint the programmer...
latent valve
Can we just get more mobs like villager? That have bigbrain ?
granite salmon
hugebrain
carmine quail
void void
smh
when viper leaves a server, the server's average iq raises by 100 points
damnit
olive garden
no 30 minute quiet period for you :(
heady spear
omg Viper is so smert
heady spear
ay papi
woven otter
Ayy
heady spear
dime que soy un perro sucio y azota mis patas papΓ‘
woven otter
City pls
heady spear
sΓ papΓ‘?
vernal moth
Admincraft ppl are weird
void void
they rather are
vernal moth
That should be a command tbh
twin lagoon
amazing
wide chasm
That's fantastic
olive garden
while you are here
do you remember in which project I used PowerMock?
I think it was one of your projects
wide chasm
I remember you using it before, but can't remember which project.
olive garden
maybe I didn't use it
or quickly stopped using it
because the Bukkit class is just a delegate to CraftServer, so as long as I can create a mock Server instance, normal Mockito is enough
twilit frigate
if anyone wants to play mc on my server dm me
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lol
void void
no
violet pawn
void void
i wonder if my parrots teething right now
didn't know it could, it's 7 years old
it's slowly eating my desk
lol
maybe it morphs into termite?
that's some interesting noises for a termite to make
i mean who knows what they're doing with those 5G antennas, they already spead corona, now they maybe make birds morph?
runs
i mean i have been seeing more dead birds lately
oh they turn birds into corpses with antennas?
what an interesting morph
split crown
silent pebble
distant sable
woven otter
that offlinemo.de is pure gold 
shell sparrow
void void
so with the chunk dupe being patched, does that mean you can make a chunk that's 100s of megabytes in size?
yes
theoretically
unless impl has other limitations
imma see how large i can make it before the server just crashes or lags horribly
your client will probably crash first
i don't think so, since the storage data isn't sent to the client unless the chest's opened
low fps definetly
topaz mortar
If you need to use Powermock, your project is clearly not well designed. Everything can be refactored to avoid Powermock.
void void
late message?
yes
scroll up for context, trig asked about powermock
sad that discord does not have reply system
so far the best one i've seen is in telegram :/
quote works pretty well
tho ye telegram's is the best
quote kiiinda works but does not allow you to jump to the context
tg's does
topaz mortar
Quote without ping would be cool and with jump.
void void
you just remove the @ thing
topaz mortar
Yeah, but TG got it working better.
void void
Quote without ping would be cool and with jump.
look ma, quote with no ping
spare schooner
topaz mortar
look ma, quote with no ping
@void void sure, jump to context is missing.
latent valve
Fill book in shulker n fill in chest
void void
wait did strings get serialized as utf8 into nbt?
or utf16
java used utf16 natively iirc
well probably it does utf8
that'd make more sense
latent valve
Viper idk if my calculation is correct but it iwll prob be 500GB
gloomy warren
the text in books should get serialized into the minecraft's json messages
latent valve
eitherway it fucking large
xD
but console will prob spam oversize chunk after around 7shulker full or smt
olive marlin
I wonder what would happen if you were to ctrl+middle click on a chest with shulkers filled like that - to copy it with nbt data.
And then fill your inventory quickly with it.
olive marlin
Why?
latent valve
cuz u will be bookbanned
normal bookban doesnt work afaik
but creative nbt copy will ban u
.try
limber knotBOT
heady spear
TIL my uni has a center for gender studies
void void
opal reef
void void
from what i remember, its 255 characters a page, 50 pages, 27 books per shulker, 54 shulkers per double chest
that server has some patches to prevent the traditional book/chunk bans, and from testing they work pretty well
burnt flame
latent valve
only bookban is patch chunkban stil possible
void void
server i'm on is very active on patching those
latent valve
i made a lazy plugin to stop ppl from placing more than 1024 tile entity lol
wonder if leaf will pr that patch into paper too π€
void void
i'd say that's breaking vanilla, so prob no
pulsar wigeon
if we could not discuss how to exploit shit here that'd be great
latent valve
wtf Z have evolve
fickle sapphire
dawn folio
wary spear
waxen panther
void void
solar bear
limber knotBOT
maybe adding two more question marks will make it clearer
amperes, but wot even, how even
slow hull
amps???!?
timber shale
slim nymph
man, is word of no tick spreading rapidly or something lol. our usage % is shooting up fast
now up to 55%
latent valve
over 50% we can now control everything
ashen cliff
But Paper is only compatible with 99.9999% of plugins. Paper bad.
latent valve
no that plugin that in 0.0001% is bad
is there pl that doesnt work with paper too?
ashen cliff
But muh plugin.
sleek acorn
Where can you see those stats Aikar?
ashen cliff
I assume his is looking at bStats?
https://bstats.org/global/bukkit
https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Paper/580
slim nymph
https://aikar.co/papersig.png?13232133 for 1.15.2 filtered stats
damn discord cache lol, have to put numbers to break discord cache
im gonna put in a suggestion on bstats to show per mc version separately and default to <latest> π
latent valve
.> wow
slim nymph
so you can do [All] [1.15] [1.13] 1.12] [boomers]
sleek acorn
Ahh right, was confused when I checked bstats forgot about versioning lol
slim nymph
bstats had a glitch that day
void void
who the hell is using a cpu with 3 cores
unreal quarry
fallen oracle
What happened to ball cleavage shorts?
void void
core2duo gang
tidal quartz
What does Turn your server up to 11. mean?
unreal quarry
it means its better than the best
its a play on words, a kind of joke from like the 1970s when volume knobs went from 0 to 10. turn it up to 11 meant louder than loud in that context. for paper, the context is performance. its faster than fast (or better than the best)
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tidal quartz
limber knotBOT
just make 11 the default 
unreal quarry
then we shall turn it up to 12, phoenix π
tidal quartz
In 1.17, may be π
upper flicker
@vestal jasper nice pic
mortal zinc
dangit guys, now i miss one of our family's finest cats
left swift
a sniffer
mortal zinc
actually he wasn't sniffing when I took the pic, he was actually sleeping like that LOL
it was probably comfortable for him, oddly
void void
lol
woven otter
weird cats
uncut berry
heady spear
aikar, it's nearly been 24h
and it's still not gone π
what no? he was mad about FAWE and gave a random 24h timeline to remove the tick limiter
nocturne sinew
mortal zinc
o.o
heady spear
mortal zinc
man
and i was very grateful to that plugin in my community, it saved a whole lot of WE work, yet considering it's awful due to how it works internally is kinda jarring to me, but it's whatever i guess
heady spear
The tick limiter is completely optional
mortal zinc
the other alternative i had at the time was AsyncWorldEdit (that I could find anyways) but the free version sucked. I'd of had to pay if I wanted the most up-to-date version
what are alternatives to FAWE that are good though?
heady spear
it was added back when people ran craftbukkit and their creative servers were suffering due to physics and tile entities
You can use WorldEdit if you don't have multiple people worldediting and don't care about game performance during edits
or you can use AWE if you're fine with edits being incredibly slow
mortal zinc
oh i very much care about the performance. It was actually a very big deal when we were WEing structures without asyncness, we'd have to careful figure out what to do and we crashed the server a lot of times lol
being able to do it with players on and them not noticing the impact was actually a very good thing
heady spear
also people don't seem to understand the exception thing either lol, the depth is needed so the trace elements have to be there. It's not finding the caller class, so I don't know of any alternatives
java 9 StackWalker could be useful, but it's java 9...
slim nymph
Demoted until its fgone!
heady spear
lel I still have zero authority over the plugin, I'll just remove the toggle completely π
Or tell dords to override the paper settings then it auto-fixes the problems π
slim nymph
tell whoevers maintaining it to remove it lol
heady spear
that's not how things work lol
heady spear
right, tell someone that works on the plugin to fix it 
slim nymph
who works on it here
heady spear
@warm mesa get yelled at
slim nymph
@warm mesa FIX IT NAO
heady spear
To be fair, it's not his fault. Jesse did dum shit
slim nymph
i know, someone just needs to clean it up now lol
heady spear
But the exception itself, idk about that one, is there any other way to find the depth? π
slim nymph
and if anyone complaints, tell em deal with it
heady spear
I think the entire class is pretty redundant tho
slim nymph
it is
heady spear
it was there to fix performance issues in super old versions
slim nymph
i saw nothing of value in it
it didnt fix performance, it broke things to lessen tps hit, but cant call that fixing
never ok to corrupt world state to reduce lag
heady spear
I think it kinda absorbed https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/fastasyncredstone.31511/
Now that's a resource to complain about
void void
bruh
pulsar wigeon
"crashing the server" i.e. watchdog timeouts has nothing to do with performance
the question is whether you need to be doing editing concurrently to other people playing
slim nymph
that code literally corrupts world state
void void
slim nymph
canceling random physics event will leave mixed blocks in mixed states
heady spear
it was mostly meant for build servers where people didn't give a fuck
I know redstoners were super upset about it
fallen oracle
That probabaly leaves you with some mixed feelings, eh?
slim nymph
then use //fast to turn off physics for WE operations only, dont go fucking non FAWE generated BPE's
pulsar wigeon
tbf you can do some really fun things with //fast as well
heady spear
https://github.com/boy0001/FastAsyncRedstone/blob/master/src/main/java/com/boydti/far/v183/QueueManager183.java
I'm pretty sure this was stolen from PlotSquared π
pulsar wigeon
like setting a sphere of mushroom blocks with it on
then go and punch one of the blocks
urban ibex
pulsar wigeon
and uh, don't do that on prod :^)
heady spear
but hey I made it so fawe doesn't corrupt your tile entities when you replace them
that's good, right??
slim nymph
FAWE needs to be redone to take WorldEdit, stop this stupid forking shit, and just do concurrent paused-main edit operations at the simplest, plus the extra features like per-user schematics
heady spear
so... turn it into AWE?
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FAWE needs to stop breaking my worlds
heady spear
way easier to maintain as well
slim nymph
pause main, break the WE operation into chunks, process each chunk in parallel, resume main when done
use WE API
limber knotBOT
I mean, if it was a normal fork or at least patches then it would be a lot easier to maintain, lol
slim nymph
no more hacking its own code for 10 million things
warm mesa
What am I fixing?
heady spear
Most of the issues in 1.15 is because Jesse left the pipeline half implemented and left
heady spear
I wonder if PlotSquared still has anything like that
I know we have WorldEdit optimization code
whatever that means
warm mesa
I don't even know why there is a tick limiter. City said it was useful but never told me what the point of it was
fallen oracle
Aikar about to add FAWE to blocked paper plugins.
slim nymph
IT IS CITYS FAULT
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"Keep the tick limiter"
heady spear
It was useful in 2015 :[
warm mesa
He isn't a FAWE he comments on stuff we talk about from time to time.
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sounds like a dev to me
heady spear
Yes, I comment on dord's commits
slim nymph
is there anyone above you in the IS org chart city
heady spear
and I fix the same issue in every version of Minecraft
urban slate
heady spear
NotMyFault owns the Discord ever since I rage quit π
warm mesa
waxen panther
Burn it to the ground city
heady spear
fuck off
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heady spear
that's fake
void void
what a shitshow
slim nymph
lol, EXPOSED
heady spear
Matt I'm never defending you again
latent valve
City u disappoint us smh 
void void
city's cucked
heady spear
PlotSquared has this π
warm mesa
Well could you at least explain what the point of the tick limiter is? Why does it exist other than to piss off Aikar (i'm assuming that was Jesse's intention)?
fallen oracle
So it sounds like there is no reason to not remove it.
slim nymph
it tried to stop lag inducing operations at the cost of corrupting world state
heady spear
It was there because creative servers back in 2014-2015 were plauged by redstone and block physics
slim nymph
thats never an acceptable solution
heady spear
Jesse thought "o i will solve this by just making it not tick"
which worked fine, except for when it didn't
slim nymph
just delete file and be done with it
waxen panther
fallen oracle
You have 3 hours left of the 24 hours Aikar gave you before FAWE gets put on the list of plugins that automatically disable on startup.
heady spear
he then created FastAsyncRedstone which broke everything
warm mesa
Oh. I'll remove it later today. I have to get some homework done.
slim nymph
someone reported a bug the other day to us that was caused by that "feature bug"
heady spear
FastAsyncRedstone reduced redstone lag by making people hate redstone enough where they never built any lag machines
so people just quit the server and performance went up
it was a very good plugin
waxen panther
Canβt lag if you donβt have any players 
heady spear
PlotSquared has a chunk processor though, bet Aikar would love that π
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does jesse always write total pepega code
slim nymph
yes
warm mesa
I'll remove the tick limiter.
heady spear
π This is good shit
slim nymph
so deleting servers data that they may not want delted, gg
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kek
warm mesa
the chunk processor causes the setblock timer issue in Plotsquared.
Or am I thinking of the queue system.
slim nymph
city im noticing a trend of feature creep from you lol
heady spear
the setblock timer is bound to plot tasks
slim nymph
plotsquares job isnt a performance optimizer
heady spear
yes it is
plotsquared does everything ok
it also optimizes your worldedit operations
slim nymph
fawe is like king of feaure creep too
heady spear
o and PlotSquared has loads of entity limiters and stuff too
slim nymph
_>
heady spear
and it's a complete worldguard replacement
urban ibex
Hey guys, this might sound like a stupid question but do develop a papermc version for the snapshots at all ?
warm mesa
FAWE sucks at "features". I think Jesse found bugs and just called them features.
heady spear
and it has its own command.yml to replace the bukkit one
slim nymph
I can let entity limiting pass abit for plots, since plot based counting is needed
waxen panther
No azra
heady spear
and we have a javascript engine
waxen panther
Spigot isnβt released for snapshots so neither can paper
slim nymph
we have plot based entity counting too
heady spear
Yeah the entity limiter is mostly limited to plots unless you don't want it to be
slim nymph
we limit 100 living entities per residence(plot)
heady spear
if you need entity limiting in a partial plot world with vanilla generation without ores with schematic roads
then you can limit entities in the entire world
heady spear
we have people with 1000x1000 plots
slim nymph
yeah well my plot world is fixed pattern π https://smp1.emc.gs
heady spear
We're using the paper events to prevent spawns now though, was a good call
Most plot worlds are π
You can marge plots into any shape, and some server owners complain that clearing their 2000x2000 plots takes more than a couple of seconds
fallen oracle
Yooo that's fucking dope
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tell em they're retarded
slim nymph
we do incremental plot resets over multiple ticks
fallen oracle
How much storage do you use for running dynamp on all the servers?
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and should feel retarded
heady spear
we used to support round plots π
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for being retarded
heady spear
So do we. Our plot clearing is super efficient tbh
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also why is the rendering fucked for that dynmap
mortal zinc
I hope someone does something over at FAWE so that my FAWE recommendation here http://www.codespeak.org/2018/09/21/tips-for-starting-a-minecraft-server/ is actually warranted
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are those the lighting errors
heady spear
Only time it isn't is when you use vanilla terrain
mortal zinc
which is nearing 2 years old in 4 months
slim nymph
it was 100GB for 3 servers of 9 years of data @fallen oracle but i just did a purge of files with a > 1 yr atime and cleared up 70G
heady spear
if you use vanilla terrain then clearing is done using worldedit and takes forever
fallen oracle
Ahh so you only do it for a few?
slim nymph
all do
fallen oracle
Ahh, okay.
fallen oracle
That's pretty cool
slim nymph
gotta be a supporter to get a plot on that server
heady spear
oooo and we also use the path finder events from paper to prevent mobs from leaving the plots, people were super happy about that
at some point in the future it's going to be paper only plugin
slim nymph
so do we π
heady spear
the prespawn events are awesome
And everything uses asynchronous chunk loading now π
I just want to make vanilla plot clearing faster
void void
async chunk loading my ass
still way slower than 1.12
heady spear
for normal and schematic gen, clearing takes a couple of seconds, but when clearing vanilla plots it gets a lot more complicated
magic ice
Paper resources page wen?
slim nymph
for resets we put a marker that the plot is resetting to prevent anyone from accessing it, then just do a slice of blocks per tick, using TaskChain, and then when done, marker is put back
celest coyote
I need to take a look at potentially optimizing prespawnevents cancelling, I believe it can be improved
magic ice
Beta 1.7.3 chunks is where itβs at
heady spear
We use our block queue shit (that fawe is based on π) and give each slice a pre-determined amount of time
efficient clearing is the reason I created PlotSquared in the first place
it was the first improvement we made to PlotMe
followed by commands for setting plot floors, walls etc
slim nymph
async chunk loading isnt meant to be "faster to load than sync", itll always be slower. its meant to simply avoid hitting server hard
heady spear
This here is the very reason I hate the plugin though
slim nymph
your taking a delay in speed to save performance
heady spear
This shit is fucking miserable
Although I want to rewrite it with Mini's recent PR shit
celest coyote
what this supposed to show?
heady spear
this is half the reason plotsquared turned into a bloaty mess to begin with
it all started with vanilla terrain, then came plot clusters
heady spear
people want it
fallen oracle
He was roleplaying Donald Trump
magic ice
heady spear
you can also generate vanilla terrain without walls, but that's less popular
slim nymph
make them build their own damn walls with their own money
heady spear
I don't care what people do, I personally hate plot worlds π
slim nymph
whats point in vanilla terrain if you dont get any of the natural beauty
heady spear
you can skip the roads if you don't want them lol, people tend to use them tho
heady spear
roads and vanilla terrain is more popular than full vanilla terrain, and both of those are more popular than clusters of plots in non-plotsquared worlds
fallen oracle
Wonder how those look on dynmap
heady spear
because of course that's a fucking thing too
fallen oracle
Oh that's dynmap?
heady spear
nah
slim nymph
look on the right side of the image
slim nymph
itll still look like that in 3d view
heady spear
but people use it so we can't remove it
fallen oracle
I mean technically you can
heady spear
it gets even worse when people use weird forge generators
that populate the worlds whenever they feel like it, so you want up with random pink trees in the middle of the roads
fallen oracle
Yikes
Yeah city I'd like to specify in the generator which blocks generate async or not.
left swift
Those are the best kind of trees
heady spear
smh fawe is slow, I am replacing 2.55Γ10ΒΉΒ² with air and it's like taking super long
tps is still at 20 though so at least I can mine some diamonds while waiting :<
magic ice
Forge + Bukkit together = worst hack youβve ever seen
plucky escarp
left swift
I embrace the impending Chinese overlords now so I can be hipster about it later after they takeover the world with their mass reproduction
waxen panther
Cat server β
magic ice
Isnβt catserver the one thatβs closed source?
fallen oracle
No it's open afaik
limber knotBOT
they started to release the source after lots of people complaining
waxen panther
Unreadable though
rustic fossil
orchid edge
magic ice
Lol they patch plugins at runtime to make them compatible with forge 
void void
it's nasty but then again spigot does runtime patching as well
fallen oracle
Mhmm
cunning saddle
void void
frick my teacher told us to listen to a bunch of rap and do some reviews
problem is i'm allergic to rap
left swift
What kind of rap
void void
with this one easy trick that server hosters hate
lime mauve
Would anyone here be able to help with WorldEdit schematics that are older and not loading properly?
Sam, Barty has a very well built server. Plus Corona boiz gave him dat boost
left swift
He's got them hooked on loot crates they just keep coming back
ember crag
Try loading the schematics in the most recent version of MCEdit and re-save them from there?
lime mauve
Will try that @ember crag thanks
ember crag
You may have to paste them into a world and copy them back out.
lime mauve
Agree. They're a couple of years old and haven't been opened, so I'll try to figure it out.
crystal compass
Having a well built server doesnt grow a population of 30ish to over 110 concurrent though
ember crag
Also, MCEdit hasn't been updated in a while, so you won't be able to paste into a 1.15 world.
fallen oracle
Barty is smart, he knows what he's doing.
void void
wait why are 1/2 servers in offline mode
fallen oracle
Bungeecord
void void
can't get any simpler and more complex than anarchy
lime mauve
That's fine @ember crag they're schematics built on 1.8
void void
ideas the simplest, in practise running an anarchy server is a big job
crystal compass
He does bait people into replying to his mcforums thread though
lime mauve
Looks like the latest version is for 1.11 so that shouldn't hurt too much.
crystal compass
That might help
left swift
ThE OlDEsT ANarCHy SErvEr
void void
fit ruined anarchy servers
left swift
He made them popular
void void
exactly, now the queues are massive and the community is less hostile
left swift
Lol
crystal compass
You know what else is massive
waxen panther
Papers dominance % rn
waxen panther
crystal compass
lime mauve
Paper is the best free platform by far
lime mauve
regardless of lack of support for older versions
void void
so why do people buy intellij idea ultimate? is the free version restricting?
fallen oracle
I mean a lot of us have it under open source license
But it does allow you to do more
lost scroll
neat smelt
why should they bother to support older versions pine apple?
empty rune
neat smelt
i mean yes
but no
people want updates, so they also have to update der minecraft version
i find it sad, that people still stick to 1.8
void void
i'm fine with old versions not being supported
just 1.12 that i'd prefer to still be updated since show me having 200 players on 1.15 with nice tps
tho based on market share i get why it's not updated anymore
waxen panther
Itβs really easy to get idea ultimate, it has a few nice features mainly sql stuff
If youβre a student you can get it through that or you can download the beta version of ultimate which has a free license
waxen panther
Ye
void void
though community will do the trick with java & kotlin usually
boreal tinsel
neat smelt
hey
void void
I am trynna do a server of Minecraft and I am wondering how is an plugin named
can someone help me
waxen panther
feather board
void void
thanks
waxen panther
It is very pepega though I agree
fleet osprey
autism.exe
fervent birch
void void
wtf
glad heart
fleet osprey
@void void you name your plugin in the plugin.yml, here's some info https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/plugin-yml/
void void
it was pretty cryptic what he asked
placid sage
slim nymph
Ultimate has some plugins that CE doesnt such as SQL and I think some languages like PHP/JS etc. dont think CE has those right? but integrated SQL is really nice. code completion for your DB schema.
its datagrip within IDEA (which is an alternative to mysql workbench)
wide chasm
The only thing I've used from Ultimate is duplicate inspection, which is admittedly pretty neat.
timber moth
prisma maple
void void
πͺ 
left swift
Skripters are furries
dapper nacelle
@potent warren I am speaking about you too
void void
oh no you did not
dapper nacelle
defending furries smh
dapper nacelle
void void
mooooooods brace yourselves, some big REEEEEEEEEEing is about to start
dapper nacelle
lol
pulsar wigeon
dylan want a ban
dapper nacelle
no but lets be fair weebs > furries
dapper nacelle
I thought saying that people who use skript are retarded was well accepted here
vestal jasper
This place is nothing but memes and shit talking wym
potent warren
@dapper nacelle bruh
vestal jasper
potent warren
I thought saying that people who use skript are retarded was well accepted here
it is. Skript bad Java good
dapper nacelle
php ultimate
potent warren
no, we don't mention that here
dapper nacelle
mcpe uses php, for some reason when I first heard that I thought it was really funny
potent warren
i'd rather have a php backend ngl
I cringe everytime there's node.js servers
imo node.js shouldn't exist, but that's me Β―_(γ)_/Β―
dapper nacelle
same *sighs*
potent warren
but I still don't want to drive a plane into the people that use node.js
or.. maybe we could do that
not sure
dapper nacelle
be careful before Simple joins the chat and says we are all retarded and that node.js servers are a valid option
dapper nacelle
React is a respectable frontend framework and it uses JS
potent warren
there's a new framework every week, what's your point..
pulsar wigeon
mcpe uses php
pocketmine isn't mcpe tho?
potent warren
ASP.NET is fine though ;-;
Microsoft went to the trouble of making .NET run native on Linux because of asp.net
pulsar wigeon
something new?
potent warren
.NET Core is a thing
pulsar wigeon
oh, core
potent warren
for a LONG time
pulsar wigeon
eugh
potent warren
.NET Core was ASP.NET Core
At least I like how they went open-source with it
Glad to see MS open the .NET stuff
potent warren
Transpile PHP to C# π https://www.peachpie.io/
dapper nacelle
oh I get what he was saying
potent warren
Even pocketmine allows me to make C# plugins for it
yet we're still waiting for that on the Bukkit API π
dapper nacelle
I thought I saw like 2 other variants that used php for minecraft servers, can't remember the names tho
woven otter
C πͺ
little temple
hey guys any ideas why if im givin on luckyperms permision minecraft.gamemode.all to true and it doesnt work?
waxen panther
use lps verbose mode
little temple
it just shows what permissions are players using at the momemt ? or im wrong?
proud walrus
stiff yarrow
why did I wait so long to go 3 monitors
jolly oasis
Any tips for plugin or config setting to manage /hub to go to the joinworld and /spawn to go to the spawn of the current world (or switch those commands if needed idc)
limber knotBOT
i was going to get 2 1440p monitors this month but then my car died :/
stiff yarrow
@left swift
currently have
3x 27" 2560x1440p @ 144hz (All displays IPS)
left swift
Nice
I bought my monitors all one at a time lol so I got like different brands and models and sizes ita gross
limber knotBOT
between my car and prices being really high rn i think i'll be stuck with my dumpster monitors for another few months
left swift
Nice
stiff yarrow
I woke up one day to a cat face avatar and it feels great