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heady spear
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do you have a repo? :DD

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it was because of tc we supported bo3 in plotsquared

void void
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anyway, sending picture of my document was good enough for github, they accepted my request in 30min

heady spear
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dropped that shit in 1.13 tho because fuck it

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Right, openterraingenerator is still maintained for 1.12 .-.

void void
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mfw

heady spear
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it's a tc fork

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would probably make more sense to update that

inner valley
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anyway, sending picture of my document was good enough for github, they accepted my request in 30min
@void void i use school email to get pack

void void
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yeah my hs didn't provide one

heady spear
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o they have a 1.15.2 branch

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tf bo4 is a thing now

void void
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bo4?

heady spear
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Yes, a continuation of bo3 πŸ˜›

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idk OTG is using it

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I'd probably recommend using their 1.15.2 branch and working form that instead lol

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are you working on 1.12 still?

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gross

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OpenTerrainGenerator is a fork of Terrain Control, which is the successor to PhoenixTerrainMod, which was based on BiomeTerrainMod.

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this is almost as bad as tuinity being a fork of paper which is a fork of spigot which is a fork of craftbukkit

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bruh tf

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imagine providing downloads for 1.2.5 lol

void void
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there's also Toothpick now :^)

heady spear
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huh

void void
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with way more superior tooling :^)

heady spear
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is that your gradle thingy

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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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It still makes more sense to fork OTG than TC lol

knotty sparrow
heady spear
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or just buy ewg πŸ˜›

void void
heady spear
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he seems to have improved it a little ever since md_5 banned new purchases

void void
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city you dum nutsack stop giving bad suggestions

heady spear
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it's a quality plugin bro

void void
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is water fixed there yet

heady spear
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just like that shitty anti cheat with the author that threatens people that give him poor reviews

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what's the name again

void void
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konsolas?

heady spear
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nah, spartan

void void
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bruh

heady spear
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vagdedes πŸ‘€

void void
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sounds like

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vagene

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haha

heady spear
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wait lemme find my screenshot

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lel

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selling a $25 anticheat is a good idea when you don't even know how to deal with thread safety lol

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ye

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nah it's lit

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there's so much rampant retardism in there

void void
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oh yes

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and kids interrupting convos lol

heady spear
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but you know what's retarded?

void void
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ye absolutely rart

heady spear
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I wanna get patron because the badge is prettier

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but spending $400 on a rank upgrade is a little suz

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Unity Student Plan free while you are a student.
guys u can get the student plan while ur a student

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mind blowing

void void
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wow

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jesus christ

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that retrooper

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more like

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simply retard

cosmic raft
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@heady spear sponsor button?

void void
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github's

heady spear
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ye that retrooper kid is obnoxious af

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he spam pings me all the fucking time lol

strange hinge
dire hawk
merry talon
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not only is spending $400 on a badge dumb

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you'd also be donating to md

void void
heady spear
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Right, without him this whole place wouldn't exist

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so I think that's fair πŸ™‚

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Hell, without md I wouldn't have a place to sell my resource. Donating a bit of the resource earnings to him is only right lol

cosmic raft
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i would do that

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but you have to do that dumb application

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and wait to be approved in the waiting line

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and everything

heady spear
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took me 4 days to get approved

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I just want your name to show up in my list thingy on my profile 😦

cosmic raft
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heady spear
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literally just say "i like money"

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and "if i got more money id be more happy"

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and they'll be like ye mate ur in

cosmic raft
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Which open source projects are you most involved with? Please include links.

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kek

granite salmon
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πŸ€”

vale aspen
cosmic raft
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@heady spear Within two weeks, you'll get an email with instructions on setting up your GitHub Sponsors profile.

heady spear
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ye I expected it to take long but I sent in my application the other day and got it approved this morning

void void
void void
rustic zinc
verbal socket
woven otter
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Welcome to the jungle

latent valve
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πŸ¦† you πŸ§™

cosmic raft
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@heady spear lmao

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You're in! Welcome to GitHub Sponsors πŸ’–

heady spear
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yay

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but u no have button

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ah you still need to be reviewed

cosmic raft
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no

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have to fill in tax details etc

heady spear
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ye and once that is done you can apply πŸ˜›

cosmic raft
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no

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i need to write a bio

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Introduction

These details will appear on your GitHub Sponsors profile.

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and tiers

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all I need is an intro

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i hate writing these things

golden gust
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Hai, am kashike; You might not see me, but, I see you.

merry talon
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my developer program application links to a gist that no longer exists

cosmic raft
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You’ve submitted your profile for approval! We’ll follow up within two weeks. Your profile will go live as soon as it’s approved by a staff member.

rain bronze
void void
heady spear
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that's what I said lol

limber knotBOT
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I mean

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my profile is pretty boring

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lol

pulsar wigeon
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self-promotion in my discord??

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that's a hammering

limber knotBOT
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I dont promote anything in your discord so you dont mean me, right?

heady spear
limber knotBOT
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:D

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oh god

heady spear
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Random lapse of judgment?

wide chasm
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My sponsors profile is also pretty boring, no idea what to write

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Normally I just plop a PayPal link down on resources and be done with it.

heady spear
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I feel a weird urge to sponsor everyone now

fallen oracle
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Because of P5?

vernal moth
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I have decided to actually use paper discord now, lets see if that makes me more or less productive, lol

ivory radish
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hi

vernal moth
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anybody else having issue with the discord intellij plugin? its not showing my shit anymore

ivory radish
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dont use it much sorry

limber knotBOT
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wow

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only two out of the 39 orgs I am a member/collaborator of, have 2fa required

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on github

fallen oracle
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Oof

wide chasm
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39 orgs
That's 39 more than me!

limber knotBOT
kind coyote
void void
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It's become very interesting watching new people join the server recently

limber knotBOT
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just like on any other mc update

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or rather being close to it

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the true spam and shitfest will begin soon:tm:

wide chasm
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Wait until it actually releases, your entire screen will just be "x just showed up!" etc.

limber knotBOT
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not having join messages disabled

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not being on irc

fallen oracle
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Okay I'm not a big fortnite fan but some of the shit they do is insane

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Travis Scott is doing a live concert in-game.

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And he's dancing around the map.

limber knotBOT
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I really wanted to find out what

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no I really don't want to anymore

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now*

fallen oracle
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It's on Twitch rn

void void
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i really hate that side of media

heady spear
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ofc glare is watching fortnite streams

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am not even surprised

fallen oracle
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I literally have not watched a fortnite stream in over a year

limber knotBOT
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that implies you watched a fortnite stream a year ago

heady spear
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Glare is a fortniterrrrr

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let's all point and laugh!!

limber knotBOT
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shame on him!

keen sage
ashen cliff
patent pond
warm anchor
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they are preparing for 1.16 when raid.

errant onyx
kindred fable
heady spear
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now u gotta switch to python

void void
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or lisp

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((((((((

median crystal
latent anchor
faint escarp
molten palm
strange fog
formal echo
foggy elbow
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Hello,
Do you recommend hetzner for a dedicated server ? Or OVH is way better
(also speaking about the anti DDOS feature as i got a lot of 1gbps ddos attacks)

limber knotBOT
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well, downside of hetzner is that they are in germany

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so if you want a US server, can't really use them

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but OVH is in the US though

void void
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idk if this allowed but

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I asked my discord if we should allow VPNs

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what do i do

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allow VPNs or get a anti bot plugin

magic ice
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Putting new rule in place: ur communist

void void
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I always did

high gate
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I'd block vpns and make exceptions for donators and other trusted members if you have any. If anyone really needs to use a vpn they can message a moderator who can then decide if they will allow them to use a vpn.

void void
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I'll end up making it a donor perk

magic ice
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I wouldn’t do that personally

void void
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Because the chance of getting botted is still high but I don't really know what I should do

magic ice
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I think you should go with what Smon said

high gate
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Some Chinese members might have issues connecting then, so you should really make it clear that if a player really can't go without it, that they can message a moderator.

void void
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alright

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I'll try that out

high gate
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Maybe make something that automatically gives the bypass permission to players with over x amount of hours in the server

left swift
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If you're worried about people abusing perms to get an ip address they shouldn't have those perms

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Also idk why everyone in mc is so crazy about ip addresses lol

mortal zinc
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people are complicated, that's why

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craving power over others, especially those they don't like

limber knotBOT
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depending on your ISP you can find out pretty easy where someone lives

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just from teh IP

void void
real cave
fierce wedge
limber knotBOT
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well you won't get exact locations

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but you can get a general idea ;)

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unless you have an ISP like mine where if you do get my IP and geolocate it, it will show that I am some 500 miles away then where I really am at XD

worn ember
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my geolocation is like 5 cities away

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at least its in the right country (most of the time)

dusk drift
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Mine isn't the right country KEK

lament patio
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Mine gives it all away

raw flicker
jagged moat
upper gulch
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Can the administration create a channel for the Russian-speaking community?

golden gust
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no

worn ember
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or you know, just speak english

limber knotBOT
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also one for old english please

upper gulch
limber knotBOT
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and old german of course

golden gust
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This is an english community, to have a russian channel, we'd need to have mods who actually speak the language and all that...

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Just, not worth it

worn ember
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i'll mod it cyka blyat

limber knotBOT
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I vote for ded

void void
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i know polish, close ish to russian

upper gulch
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@golden gust Ok i got it

limber knotBOT
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I vote for nirvallica as the window cleaner

void void
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are we renting a building now?

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or buying it?

limber knotBOT
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annexing it

upper gulch
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@void void w tedy stworzymy polski πŸ˜„

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sorry

void void
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ja nie umie za dobse po polsku

upper gulch
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ok

void void
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oh no πŸ¦† πŸ¦† go is down

limber knotBOT
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duck duck go go..ed away?

cedar spade
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ye olde Paper be rather moderne for the Speaker such as myself

void void
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we must start communicating though pidgeons

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paper is too complicated

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let alone discord

limber knotBOT
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is that actually proper old english? oO

void void
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doesn't look like old english

cedar spade
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probably not lol

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I spent months reading circa-1700 English for a history coursework project and I can't remember any of it lol

void void
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months for one project?

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how

limber knotBOT
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old english vaguely sounds like english, but is written like a germanic monstrousity

cedar spade
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sixth form :p

void void
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ah ofc

cedar spade
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alternative answer: by studying 7 modules across 3 courses in parallel and spending about 2 hours a week on the coursework

limber knotBOT
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I can go even lower with 1 hour of work a week for a 15 pager

cedar spade
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and also by losing half your research thanks to Microsoft Word being broken so you have to go and reread all the books the day before the deadline

void void
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did someone forget to do a backup?

limber knotBOT
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rip?

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my death would probably be google docs f'ing off

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or no internet heh

void void
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my death would be being allergic to dogs

left swift
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Doggo

void void
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my dog has the best name as well, lady

cedar spade
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no, we were given a word document as a template to store all of our research and quotes and mine corrupted, started turning table cells into freely-movable text boxes and crashed word repeatedly

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I copied everything I could recover into a new document then kinda forgot about the bits I had lost

limber knotBOT
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so if I want to get the entire craftbukkit/spigot source, do I just run buildtools, and then apply paper patches

void void
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it's farely easy to recover stuff from an old document, just open up the xml files and you can usually figure out what was there

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if you apply paper patches, it'll be paper

limber knotBOT
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yeah, I want the whole source, with paper

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so I can poke around, and build it

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google drive backup is such a joke. it's nice for proper documents in your drive, but stuff like google docs, sheets, spreadsheets, are literally saved as {"url": "https://docs.google.com/open?id=1-xxx", "doc_id": "1-xxx", "email": "mail@gmail.com"} on your file system

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lmao

void void
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brilliant, i've always just used mega cloud drive

gusty goblet
cedar spade
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The template was originally a .doc, can't remember if I ever actually updated it lol

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tbh I should've checked over the document to see what was lost at the time rather than just assuming I hadn't lost anything

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Learnt my lesson lol

polar sonnet
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What is nullpinging

scarlet crater
unreal quarry
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i'm starting to think RES and SHR arent what i think they are :3

ashen cliff
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Same.

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I see 50%... same as with my setup.

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That's somewhat interesting.

lilac grotto
golden gust
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res is basically the actual ram usage

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res covers shared too, which i forget the exact spec on

worn ember
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i like spek

limber knotBOT
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you are speck

limber knotBOT
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mafs-married-at-first-sight-marriedau-mafs-australia

ancient bolt
left swift
slim nymph
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wow, yall making me think there is a native leak, unless you got some hacky plugins @unreal quarry ?

ancient bolt
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that is typical, and I've never understood why

shell vine
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Just assume there is

ancient bolt
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okay 32GB is a bit crazy actually

knotty galleon
polar sonnet
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What is nullpinging
@polar sonnet

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Someone told me that is exploitable on my server

void void
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they might be trolling you

golden gust
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that's basically a "sending junk to the proxy upsets it"

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There has been stuff done to try to reduce the risk, but, I've got some stuff in my head which needs to be done at some point, bungees networking code is pretty gross for dealing with some of this

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Tux got the right idea 😭

worn ember
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u dont

mild talon
wanton frost
peak dirge
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I got the right idea - I rewrote everything πŸ˜‰

stark wyvern
compact fable
earnest swan
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Nice Linux

gleaming rivet
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why are using the gui?

earnest swan
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Mmm

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That was what I thought

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Linux server is free

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Ohh

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Ohhhhh

warm anchor
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He’s more of a picture guy

limber knotBOT
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ew, pictures

earnest swan
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I read you message wrong

peak dirge
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ew, GUIs on a server

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k

warm anchor
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Yes it’s outdated

ashen cliff
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Not using ClearLinux.

warm anchor
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Buy rtx for your server

peak dirge
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Not using Gentoo

earnest swan
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GTC 2080 for a Minecraft server πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

peak dirge
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having a redhat license
every n00b who wants to have a 31337 memekrappe serb uses CENTOS

ashen cliff
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Tux try ClearLinux.

peak dirge
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@ashen cliff I switched to TempleOS Arch Linux months ago lol

ashen cliff
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I tried it for my modded server, the performance was too good to be true.
So I just ignored the numbers.

peak dirge
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Arch does everything I need it to do

ashen cliff
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Server context.

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Not desktop trash.

peak dirge
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Oh, servers?

ashen cliff
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Yeah.

void void
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arch runs on servers as well lol

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i.. used to have two

ashen cliff
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Oh no.

peak dirge
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We're using Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, because of Docker and Kubernetes and crap.

limber knotBOT
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lmao

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i use Ubuntu server 18.04 as well

peak dirge
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With Kubernetes, it's either something Debian-based, Red Hat-based, or "good luck"

limber knotBOT
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ubuntu or centos

peak dirge
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We picked the least offensive option: Ubuntu

ashen cliff
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Listen to this bullshit:
303 mods, 1.6.4:
9900k@4.7Ghz (Debian 10, 4 stick) same performance as a
5930k@4.6Ghz (ClearLinux, single memory stick).

void void
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k8s runs on nixos too pretty well :p

ashen cliff
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Could just be Intel being shit.

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Shev can support that.

limber knotBOT
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my plugins only supprt 1.4

ashen cliff
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Give me a 1.15.2 benchmark server. OH WAIT.

limber knotBOT
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it has better pvp

peak dirge
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@ashen cliff they do actually have really nice optimizations in Clear Linux, Intel has clearly paid a lot of attention to those

ashen cliff
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Talking about hardware there.

peak dirge
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but because it's Intel, it works best on Intel hardware, and not AMD hardware

ashen cliff
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Actually.

peak dirge
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a problem for me because, well, my desktop is Ryzen 5 3600

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I know Clear Linux works on AMD

peak dirge
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And a lot of the optimizations are agnostic of the CPU vendor

ashen cliff
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True. But it's still faster than Ubuntu.

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At least it was.

peak dirge
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20.04 has definitely caught up but yeah, I think other distros will slowly adopt Intel's highly-tuned compiler options

ashen cliff
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Well, they did drop 32 bit support, might as well also get with the times.

peak dirge
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But we're getting good enough performance on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and the OpenJDK 11 (HotSpot) Docker image

ashen cliff
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I'm just looking for someone to confirm, that what I saw, was real and not some hardware bs.

peak dirge
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There's only so far that highly-optimized compile-time options and JVM patches can take you

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You really need optimized software as well.

ashen cliff
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The OpenJDK in CL is also optimized for Intel... so that's as far as it get's for MC, before you need to touch the actually server.

peak dirge
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We're basically running stock AdoptOpenJDK now

gleaming rivet
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i won't

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i meant performance wise

ashen cliff
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For no reason 120Hz is an option for my HP 470 G2 that isn't branded a G2.

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It's still 60Hz, but you get to feel better when you click on 120Hz.

void void
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i'm compiling my own jdk14 lol

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with -mtune=native etc

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micro opts add up as i like to say

peak dirge
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I'd do -mtune=native but there's a non-zero chance of the architectures of our servers changing.

worn ember
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i have a 144hz monitor

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but i cant use it

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cuz all my others are 60hz

peak dirge
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Say we decide to mix Coffee Lake Xeon E-2288Gs with EPYC 7F72s, then we'd be mixing Skylake and Zen 2, which overlap in a lot of respects but not in others.

twin lagoon
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"cuz all my others are 60hz"

peak dirge
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I'd feel better about -mtune=haswell

worn ember
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coffe lake? sky lake? what

ashen cliff
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I still need that MIPS 34K JVM.

twin lagoon
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intel architectures

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.g coffee lake

limber knotBOT
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mfw still on westmere

ashen cliff
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SkyLake++++++

twin lagoon
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14nm KEKWHYPER

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shintel

worn ember
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next gen ToxicLake

ashen cliff
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I'll still buy it.

peak dirge
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They once called AMD AMDumb

twin lagoon
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ayymd

worn ember
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They once called you... wait no one calls you

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you have no friends

median carbon
heady spear
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a list of my accomplishments today:

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so I'm happy with that, now ima get drunk

vernal moth
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see

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you do it wrong

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get drunk while doing stuff

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I wrote idk how many commits to minimessage, wrote a blog post, got it on maven central, PRd it into your plugin, even did shit at work for once and its only 2200, day is just about to get started πŸ˜„

heady spear
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I was supposed to try to go through some of the 8 lectures of mechanics I've ignored

vernal moth
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time to fuck around with my mob ai PR

heady spear
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but then I got dizzy and had to sleep D: Pain killers aren't working either

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so whiskey is the obvious solution

mortal zinc
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man there are 4,000+ people in here

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this is like a small army

heady spear
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emphasis on small

warm anchor
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Wait til Mojang release 1.16. Chat will be even more popular!

ashen cliff
warm anchor
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Can still see pinned message from 1.15 great raid

worn ember
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pew pew, u banned

drowsy cliff
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a

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yes it's realy bad cpu

ember snow
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cpu mark

drowsy cliff
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bruh

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165w

ember snow
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going to have to call the fire department

drowsy cliff
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yess

ember snow
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Thats how much my entire computer is worth

drowsy cliff
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what

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u have x299 ?

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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?

peak dirge
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i9-10980XEs are slaughtered by Ryzen 9 3950X anyway

drowsy cliff
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ryzen 9 is better

peak dirge
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And the 3950X is going to cost less, put out less heat, and have better performance.

drowsy cliff
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true

warm anchor
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What if his goal is to cook eggs as bonus on his heat sink

peak dirge
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Or you can get an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X, comfortably slaughtering both.

drowsy cliff
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intel fanboy

peak dirge
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AMD has been doing much better in overall performance lately.

warm anchor
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Is that still true this day?

ember snow
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Do you really need single core that fast?

peak dirge
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AMD is slightly behind on single-core but not by much

warm anchor
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Cost vs performance gain

drowsy cliff
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oh god

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my RX580 consume 150w

peak dirge
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3950X has more reasonable TDP

void void
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even an awesome noctua can't cool that

peak dirge
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105W

void void
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i got a metal shuttlecock on my cpu

bleak spoke
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should of went ryzen

drowsy cliff
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Γ—AMD EPYC 7742 Γ—Intel Xeon Platinum 8176 @ 2.10GHz + ADD
Price $7579 BUY NOW! $87251
Socket Type SP3 FCLGA3647
CPU Class Server Server
Clockspeed 2.3 GHz 2.1 GHz
Turbo Speed Up to 3.4 GHz Up to 3.8 GHz

of Physical Cores 64 (2 logical cores per physical) 28 (2 logical cores per physical)

Max TDP 225W 165W
Yearly Running Cost $41.06 $30.11
First Seen on Chart Q2 2019 Q2 2019

of Samples 3 2

Cross-Platform Rating 0 0
Single Thread Rating 2127 2046
CPU Mark 66679 24299

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πŸ€”

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threw i9 in to garbage an buy epyc

#

or assriper

gleaming rivet
#

Epyc is bad in singlecore.

peak dirge
#

you are comparing a server CPU to an high-end desktop CPU

#

that is very apples-to-oranges

#

server CPUs have completely different goals than desktop CPUs

gleaming rivet
#

Yesyes, for minecraft use - its bad.

peak dirge
#

most server applications can use multiple cores, Minecraft can't

gleaming rivet
#

I agree completely, it is indeed a good cpu just not for this purpose

ashen cliff
#

@drowsy cliff Aren't you using Intel?

drowsy cliff
#

where @ashen cliff

ashen cliff
#

Hetzner.

drowsy cliff
#

yess

ashen cliff
#

It's always Hetzner.

peak dirge
#

and servers focus on efficiency, high-end desktop CPUs focus on raw performance

drowsy cliff
#

intel i7 7700

ashen cliff
#

Non k.

drowsy cliff
#

πŸ˜‹

naive quest
#

Did you know that Hetzner has i7 4790k and 32GB ram for 30$ for a month?

ashen cliff
#

Not worth it.

#

Get the Xeon for the same price, has 0.1Ghz more.

drowsy cliff
#

i have i7 7700 64gb ram and 2x 512gb nvme for 47 per month

ashen cliff
#
  • setup fee.
#
  • taxes.
drowsy cliff
#

yess

naive quest
#

That was without setup fee

light gorge
#

Hi πŸ‘‹πŸΌ

ashen cliff
#

Not talking about the auction servers here.

drowsy cliff
#

with setup fee is 2x 47 eur

hushed moss
naive quest
#

Yeah, why it is that cheap?

drowsy cliff
#

idk

ember snow
#

$360 a year

ashen cliff
#

All pay for how?

#

The government isn't it @drowsy cliff?

ember snow
#

+they prob get rich off the setup fees

drowsy cliff
#

@ashen cliff ???

ashen cliff
#

Ε tipendija, Brane.

drowsy cliff
#

yess

#

3 stvari na naenkrat delam zato nvm ka včasih napiőem

naive quest
#

it's so cheap

ashen cliff
#

Old used up auction servers, yeah.

drowsy cliff
#

yeah

naive quest
#

Enough for medium minecraft server

ashen cliff
#

It is.

naive quest
#

You can also buy vps in same price

#

with much worse performance

void void
#

if you look in the right places, you can scavenge those from dumpsters

drowsy cliff
#

πŸ€”

void void
#

as long as you have access to some business complex

drowsy cliff
#

duh časa xd

ashen cliff
#

And cheap power, internet, DoS protection, cooling?

void void
#

paying the stupid neighbour obv

ashen cliff
#

Or a janitor.

drowsy cliff
#

@ashen cliff someone try to bot my server today

ashen cliff
#

So someone tried to do the same as you were doing to them for a whole week?
Render me surprised.

drowsy cliff
#

yes

#

but he didn't do anything bots were just leaving the server

latent valve
#

Lol

safe jay
void void
plain narwhal
worn frigate
umbral socket
vapid path
tidal quartz
ancient bolt
#

hoppers suck items in

tidal quartz
#

ah ok

#

didn't get it

#

How much boost in %?

#

+-

magic ice
#

hi

tidal quartz
#

hi

quasi valley
#

GUYS

left swift
#

Kenneth

quasi valley
#

no man ass send help

left swift
#

KennethTelevision

vapid path
#

the garbage collector isnt working

#

it just says The filname, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect ;/

fallen oracle
#

Did you turn it on?

vapid path
#

wym

fallen oracle
#

Typically I have to push my trash out on a specific day for them to pick it up.

quasi valley
#

maybe it thought that it itself is garbage?

#

and it just threw itself out of the window

left swift
#

Maybe he forgot to pay the bill

vapid path
#

run.bat whatever dafuq its called

left swift
#

It do be kinda batty tho

quasi valley
#

yeah they started some virus I heard

left swift
#

Just open windows let them out

quasi valley
#

be careful with bats

waxen panther
left swift
solemn sparrow
jagged egret
#

why not wsl?

upper flicker
#

cygwin is the more complete port system itll have access to more utils

#

that being said, git bash is based on cygwin's bash

#

so as far as bash is concerned, there's not a huge difference

#

I just use git bash for random stuff and wsl if I need a ton of utils

#

as to why you'd prefer cygwin over wsl, could be for a lot of reasons

#

stuff in cygwin is actually running in/on windows

#

thats not really a great reason imo

#

the lighter thing

ancient bolt
#

an example, if you build a linux application for windows on cygwin, it's effectively a native windows program

#

it's actually impressive as hell it works at all

cyan valve
void void
hoary lava
fiery crown
polar sonnet
#

Thoughts?

#

Or does waterfall already do that

void void
polar sonnet
#

ah

#

Does bungeecord have that issue still?

#

or waterfall for that matter

inner valley
toxic bear
worn ember
#

oh

#

didnt know dumptruckman maintained multiverse πŸ‘€

ancient bolt
#

nice stacktrace

pulsar wigeon
#

.paste u nub

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
#

no one wants to open ur dum text files

ancient bolt
amber tinsel
#

What is the best random tp plugin that works nicly with paper?

peak dirge
#

@slim nymph Just took a look at one of our servers, noticed we have two old GCs. I don't know how long ago they happened but I'll send some GC logs

slim nymph
#

well they will still happen if you have heavy memory usage

#

[2020-04-24T21:02:01.289+0000][46117.284s] GC(1622) Old regions: 343->344
[2020-04-24T21:02:01.289+0000][46117.284s] GC(1622) Humongous regions: 121->114

#

that absolutely consists of shitty memory usaage

#

humongous =bad

#

how much memory you giving the processes

peak dirge
#

Yeah, definitely, this server has in-memory worlds

#

We are giving 8GiB of heap

slim nymph
#

well try giving G1HeapRegionSize=16M in this case see if it reduces amount of humongous

peak dirge
#

Will slip this into the deploy for all servers tonight

slim nymph
#

monitor the logs for "Humongous allocations" - gotta control those

#

If Memory allocated > (G1HeapRegionSize / 2), its humongous

peak dirge
#

We have a much better in-memory worlds solution (based on Slime) coming soon, which will hopefully bring down the humongous allocations

slim nymph
#

so means your allocating 4MB a lot currently

#

16 will double the thresh to 8M

polar sonnet
#

So

#

I have a 32gb dedi right

#

Somehow while only using 17 and I cant use the rest brother

#

wtf

slim nymph
#

@peak dirge whats initaiting heap occupancy and g1 waste? my defaults right

peak dirge
#

lemme check

#

IHOP is the JVM default, G1 waste is your flag.

#

I believe we talked about this on the other discord and you said we could drop IHOP because we're on 1.12

void void
#

how can I change the log data location in paper

peak dirge
#

@slim nymph what do you recommend we do now? Also @mortal imp wants an explanation of humongous regions as he's a complete GC noob

#

I've went and set -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M

mortal imp
#

I mean, the way I see it to be honest, the impact of these is a short GC pause (in the grand scheme of things), and you're ( @peak dirge ) talking about changing the flags for the entire network to compensate for this housing-specific thing. Shouldn't we just wait until we have Slime out which has like 1/10th the memory footprint to solve the issue that way ?

peak dirge
#

@mortal imp But remember, (1) you're in a public chat, and (2) that isn't coming for a while, and a short-term fix is required.

twin lagoon
#

yes

mortal imp
#

Aware ;P

peak dirge
#

Yes

twin lagoon
#

yes

#

lilypad in a nutshell

peak dirge
#

See also: LilyPad, although it's pretty terrible.

twin lagoon
#

eh it works

upper flicker
#

yeah now take that idea and make one thats not garbage

#

ggnore there you go

twin lagoon
#

@ancient bolt Is paperd production ready? looking into using it

peak dirge
#

I wanna write one in Rust

twin lagoon
#

any known issues or so?

peak dirge
#

Node.js was so 2015

upper flicker
#

@peak dirge velocity 2.0 rust rewrite when

peak dirge
#

as soon as I get this thing called "time"

heady spear
#

I've heard pretty good things about lilypad performance πŸ‘€

upper flicker
#

ah yes, I feel your pain

ancient bolt
#

not really

upper flicker
#

hang tight

twin lagoon
#

o

#

why not?

ancient bolt
#

im redoing a part of it and I haven't nailed down ncurses deployment yet

twin lagoon
#

o

peak dirge
#

and a Rust proxy would be so fundamentally different from Velocity that I'd need to do it as a separate project first

heady spear
#

messaging channels :]]

peak dirge
#

@slim nymph Also, I took at look at some more GC logs representative of the server types we run. Most that I saw only had like 4-8 humongous regions (bad, but tolerable) but I found one more with nearly 100 regions. It's a proxy, based on a Travertine fork and uses your BungeeCord settings right now. I am going to bump the region size from 4MB to 8MB to see if that improves the numbers.

stoic timber
worn ember
#

do ya'll ever make issues on your own projects? Or do you just put the fix in the commit message?

#

i feel like its kinda weird to make issues on your own repo lol

fallen oracle
#

I open issues so I have future todos

heady spear
#

^same

#

I also PR my own projects to keep track of changes and shit

fallen oracle
#

I also document my own PRs so I want people to code review they understand it all.

void void
#

I also do that

fallen oracle
#

If I*

worn ember
#

how do you pr on your own project thonkeng

#

or do you mean on your org repo?

vestal jasper
#

I open issues if I know I won't get to it soon

heady spear
#

create a branch and make a pull request? lol

fallen oracle
#

Different branches?

#

Lol

worn ember
#

oh like that

heady spear
#

you don't need to PR from a fork

#

why am I and Glare just saying the same shit

#

we're so synchronized, like two periods

vestal jasper
#

..

worn ember
#

i just throw everything on dev and if everything works merge with master kekw

heady spear
#

menstrual cycle gang gang

fallen oracle
#

Oof

#

I usually do it by the feature

vestal jasper
#

City why don't I have you blocked

#

Also you took away my vim you cuck

heady spear
#

Vic u need to contribute to hyperverse, I am slowly bullying everyone into doing shit for me

#

I didn't <.< NMF removed the entire fucking role

vestal jasper
#

Mfw

void void
#

tf is hyperverse

#

.g hyperverse

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) http://hyperverse.io/ -- Hyperverse | Home: "And here comes Hyperverse β€” we help LBEs to get into the new age of entertainment. item. Hyperverse produces full-immersion free-roam VR parks. You..."

fallen oracle
#

I just deleted like 12 branches in my EssX fork from old merged prs

heady spear
#

i can make u notable but you've already bought yourself a flashy role

void void
#

domain does not have https

#

what is this sorcery

vestal jasper
#

But my secret channel access

heady spear
#

dats not mine wtf

fallen oracle
void void
#

does it support setting default gamerules?

worn ember
void void
#

e.g i don't give a flying shit about vanilla advancements messages

peak dirge
#

πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡·

void void
#

and i want them to be disabled

worn ember
#

πŸ¦ƒ

heady spear
#

you can configure per world gamerules, there's no global option yet

#

although it could be added πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ We already have tiered flags and shit

worn ember
#

tiered fags

#

*flags

heady spear
#

if we're gonna tier our fags then im on top

worn ember
#

you know you're a bottom

heady spear
#

wait wtf didn't even realize that was a pun

#

omfg

void void
#

it kinda does, viper

heady spear
void void
#

you can redefine method bodies on runtime

worn ember
#

hoTSwaPinG

heady spear
#

DED u should fork wildsex and update it

#

it's stuck at 1.12

void void
#

you know you're a bottom

i bet ded would be the middle one

heady spear
#

i want a sexy server 😦

void void
#

sandwich you know

#

:^)

worn ember
#

i like being sandwiched

vestal jasper
#

@heady spear you gonna be awake in 6 hours?

worn ember
#

eat me daddy mikropp

jagged egret
#

@still smelt that would require jvm reinitialization so I imagine no

void void
#

no u have nanopp

worn ember
void void
#

i have mikropp

worn ember
heady spear
#

y vic

void void
vestal jasper
#

Ping me and I'll update it

heady spear
#

I really need WildSex for my test server

vestal jasper
#

I get home in 6 hours I can update it then

void void
#

ded want to see a relevant meme in dms?

#

kekked the shit out today because of it

#

but can't send it here really

worn ember
#

Everyone: 5 years of develoment and we've reached V1.3.2
Me after 2 weeks of development: Alright bois V1.5 is out

neat yoke
#

Hey, I was wondering if anyone has a tutorial for MongoDB/learning how to use it; aside from their documentation?

heady spear
#

no use morphia

#

anything else is illegal

neat yoke
#

Morphia? What's that?

heady spear
#

if you're not using java then figure it out

#

it's an object document mapper that will change your life

worn ember
#

whut about symphony

neat yoke
#

I'm using java haha

fallen oracle
#

Use spring

heady spear
#

yes

#

no

#

use morphia

fallen oracle
#

Use txt files like weeb does

heady spear
#

vic the wildsex fork has to be called beastiality

fallen oracle
#

Stop

worn ember
heady spear
#

important .-.

neat yoke
#

What's the difference between plain MongoDB and Morphia or whatever spring is?

vestal jasper
#

Use discord messages and discord message searching as a queryable database

heady spear
#

Morphia does everything for you

worn ember
#

its a mapper, it creates objects for you

heady spear
#

it'a also the reason my server launch failed and we lost thousands of player profiles =))

#

but I still love it

worn ember
#

mongo shit -> java pOOP

neat yoke
#

..

heady spear
#

nono it's great

fallen oracle
#

City has a lot of issues getting it up, don't mind him.

limber knotBOT
#

in more ways then one I suppose

heady spear
#

am not drunk enough for these insults

limber knotBOT
lament patio
worn ember
#

i think city has more than just that issue

vestal jasper
#

Lol glare

heady spear
#

let me fix that

neat yoke
#

Do you have any tutorials/docs or references I can look at for learning about Morphia City?

#

Or recommend

heady spear
#

I mean they explain it pretty well

neat yoke
#

Oki

heady spear
#

there's not a whole lot to it, really

vestal jasper
#

Not working for me kyle

worn ember
#

@lament patio do you have a modified client?

#

same

vestal jasper
worn ember
fallen oracle
#

That's weird that it worked

#

But lots of stuff has happened in discord today

vestal jasper
#

Not a ping for me

fallen oracle
#

Wouldn't put it past that

worn ember
#

same

lament patio
#

Nope, I'm on Firefox

vestal jasper
#

browser discord

worn ember
#

actually using browser

neat yoke
#

City do you know any walkthroughs or tutorials i can reference to as reassurance lmao

fallen oracle
#

On

#

Oh

#

Whelp IDC then if it's in the browser

heady spear
#

Not really :/ I just started using it

#

same with drugs, u learn as u go

worn ember
#

i love how i have an "editing music" playlist even tho i dont even edit videos

heady spear
#

u can edit my onlyfans videos for me

neat yoke
#

oki then

worn ember
#

ok

fallen oracle
#

You can work on my onlyplugins code.... Raw...

#

😎

heady spear
#

smh i feel like deleting the internet now

worn ember
#

thats illegal sir

#

i'm using that

void void
#

imma delet u both

twin lagoon
#

i see how that everyone works

worn ember
#

wowow calm down there keyboard warrior

twin lagoon
#

for some reason seems to get rid of the @

void void
fallen oracle
#

But it still pings?

twin lagoon
worn ember
#

still no work for me

fallen oracle
#

But you have to have perms, right?

lament patio
#

Oooh, huh

twin lagoon
#

yes

worn ember
#

oh

twin lagoon
#

so, nothing's wrong

worn ember
#

well thats boring

fallen oracle
#

Okay then I'm not worried

heady spear
#

I'm worried

primal linden
fallen oracle
#

Don't be

tight token
#

Anyone know what this crap is .. happens every so often
"
[Fri, 24. Apr 2020 16:59:56 PDT WARN] java.nio.channels.ClosedChannelException
[Fri, 24. Apr 2020 16:59:56 PDT WARN] at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel$AbstractUnsafe.close(...)(Unknown Source)
"

#

i get thousands of them

void void
#

how can i acces the logs folder

#

please help me

worn ember
#

asking in the right channel is a start Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

old ingot
stiff yarrow
#

idk how grep console manages to have an update every day

worn ember
#

either they really bad at doing what they do that they need to fix it

#

or they really good that they can add features every day kekw

cosmic raft
#

~limbo uptime

#

yep, fell over

#

~limbo uptime

void void
#

Uptime: 28 seconds

ancient bolt
#

why does it keep dying

#

what are you doing to that poor bot

waxen panther
cosmic raft
#

@ancient bolt it just -dies-

#

~limbo uptime

void void
#

Uptime: 44 seconds

cosmic raft
#

lets see if this works

void void
undone raptor
#

Hello good, a question. Does anyone know how I can get this script to work:

#! / bin / sh

DATE = date | cut -d '' -f4

#Date is getting printed, if I run it manually, without any error. But file is not created at scheduled time.

echo $ DATE

if [[$ DATE == "21:26:00"]]
then
echo "sh start.sh"

fi

worthy talon
jagged egret
#

@undone raptor how are you running it? I imagine it's not being run at 21:26:00 exactly

undone raptor
#

It just doesn't run

jagged egret
#

ok well that's a common symptom of not running it

undone raptor
jagged egret
#

ye so you can't have a space between the variable and the assigned value

#

nor do you use two sets of []s, from what I can see

undone raptor
#

How should I run it then? Could you give me a hand with the code please

jagged egret
#

Ud habla espanol? su archivo esta llamado tiempo

undone raptor
#

Si hablo espaΓ±ol

limber knotBOT
#

no hablo espanol

jagged egret
#

#! / bin / sh

# Ud tenia 'DATE = `date | cut -d '' -f4`
# Este es incorrecto, porque:
# * No puede tener espacios entre este - debe ser "A=b", no "A = b".
# * Para usar el resultado como un variable, tiene que rodear el comando con $()
# * El tiempo en formato "HH:MM:SS" es argumento numero cinco
# Este funciona:
DATE=$(date | cut -d ' ' -f5)

#Date is getting printed, if I run it manually, without any error. But file is not created at scheduled time.
echo $DATE

# Ud tenia 'if [[$ DATE == "21:26:00"]]'
# Este es incorrecto, porque:
# * No puede usar dos '='
# * No puede usar dos []
# * No puede tener un espacio entre $ y DATE
# Este funciona:
if [ $DATE = "21:26:00" ]
then
echo "sh start.sh"

fi
#

este debe funcionar

undone raptor
#

AhΓ­ lo pruebo

bright plaza
potent fossil
#

such helpful iso

slim nymph
#

wtf is those spaces

#

also use /bin/bash is why the [[ ]] didn't work

valid sonnet
scarlet crater
#

Can somebody help me. Im having problems with citizens2 plugin

#

Alguien me ayuda, estoy teniendo problemas con el plugin de citizens2

void venture
#

QuΓ© problemas

scarlet crater
#

Cuando pongo npc create, el npc no aparece

void venture
#

tuviste algΓΊn error o algo parecido?

scarlet crater
#

solo eso

slim nymph
#

you are likely on an old citizens version

#

err

#

paper version i mean

#

what version of paper

scarlet crater
#

wait

void venture
#

eh, he said that the npc doesn't appear when he does /npc create

scarlet crater
#

how do I see it

slim nymph
#

right which was a bug on an older version

void venture
#

just update to the latest version

slim nymph
#

please update paper

void venture
slim nymph
#

ive got citizens loaded on my dev environment and it works

scarlet crater
#

which is better paper or spigor

slim nymph
#

paper obviously

void venture
#

Paper is objectively better, yeah

scarlet crater
#

should I replace my old Paper with the new one?

#

as simple as that?

void venture
#

yes

scarlet crater
#

do I gotta change something?

void venture
#

make sure the name matches with your start script

#

that's about it

scarlet crater
#

ok, ill try ty

waxen panther
#

which is better paper or spigor

#

asked in the paper server

scarlet crater
#

hahaha

#

sorry Im almost new

waxen panther
#

lmao

#

paper do be better tho

scarlet crater
#

I think they all have like pros and cons

#

Ive seen many places where they say paper is better

#

but Idk, u have more experience

slim nymph
#

spigot really has absolutely no pros over us lol

hot needle
short yarrow
#

is C# like microsoft's java?

true canyon
#

spigot really has absolutely no pros over us lol

I dunno, some people like toxicity.

slim nymph
#

@short yarrow eh, sorta yes. just not as 'cleanly' cross platform. its gotten better though

scarlet crater
#

is it normal to have a cache folder while downloading the vanilla jar?

waxen panther
#

yes

scarlet crater
#

I was using Paper-1.15.2-b214.jar from yives mirrir or something like that, does it change anything?

peak dirge
#

@true canyon I was talking with the other devs on my network on a voice chat today. Someone made a comparison between md_5 and Mark Zuckerburg. I think they might be spot-on.

pulsar wigeon
#

language wise, c# is microsoft java. platform wise, not really lol

peak dirge
#

I would've used $laughably_insecure_hashing_algorithm but honestly we all know who runs the Spigot show these days

#

It's all but an one-man effort now, with a smattering of minor contributors, and almost all of the big external contributors are either gone, work on Paper, or work on Sponge.

#

Same deal with BungeeCord, although Waterfall didn't have that many contributions compared to its initial days.

polar sonnet
#

How do i win a chargeback πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

#

There's a strict no refund policy on the stores website as soon as you visit

#
  • its in the terms
peak dirge
#

depends on the payment processor

polar sonnet
#

paypal

peak dirge
#

haven't used PayPal in a very long time

#

the server I work with uses Xsolla, who pretty much fight the chargebacks for us

polar sonnet
#

love to see it

warm anchor
#

Paypal has been really bad

polar sonnet
#

Im not sure if im going to win the chareback though

#

I responded with "Hi, in our store we provide a strict no refund policy as stated in terms when purchasing a virtual item from our store."

#

Ill escalate it to paypal

shy plover
#

aikars flags on client

potent fossil
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paypal has never been bad for me but there is one thing - i don't run >near-fraudulent< minecraft servers

shy plover
potent fossil
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what is your point len

shy plover
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sorry was moving to post here from anther channel

polar sonnet
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Fradulent?

potent fossil
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uh, ok

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i said near-fraudulent

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most servers are run by people that have no clue what they're doing (usually children) who don't understand the EULA and sell stuff, then shit falls through due to bad management and someone disputes (fairly imo) and the server owner starts crying about how they dont deserve to be charged back

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plz note the use of "near-" and "most". i'm not saying this is what's happening in your case.

just most cases ;)

warm anchor
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Oh I hate those too. Technically selling anything in server is against Mojang's ToS.

There are army of bots spamming those pump and dump pay2win server on the official Minecraft Discord that only last for a month or two and restart with another name lol and repeat

slim nymph
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no its not @warm anchor , in fact they just opened the eula to be looser to make it more clear its ok to make money on servers

warm anchor
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Oh really?

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That's nice I guess

slim nymph
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@polar sonnet paypal will typically always side with buyer. very hard to win, and if its an actual credit card chargeback you absolutely won't win, plus take a fine.

polar sonnet
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Yikes

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Well he said he recieved the items

warm anchor
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but still you know what I mean by pump and dump server right? those server that open with sole purpose if selling items and then shut down

slim nymph
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and paypal did recently go super shitty and make you cover the fees cost now

polar sonnet
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He did claim he recieved the items

slim nymph
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i always leave balance in my paypal when moving money to cover refunds

polar sonnet
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So a fraud claim wont work i think?

slim nymph
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you can try

warm anchor
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The whole thing about buyer protection makes it really hard especially when it comes to digital, eh?

formal turret
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i know what you mean eternity lol

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just have to keep your discord somewhat hidden otherwise they'll spam pm all your members

warm anchor
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oh yeah Mine is on Discovery too so it is worse in a sense. Not as bad as Official MC server though since they dont limit new account from posting. They ban one another one just pops in

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Not helping that Discord basically gives away userlist on join even if the account has no perms to see any channel on join

undone raptor
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Someone help me with this, I put the following commands in cron, but when it's time to run don't run any. Why can this be?

haughty wagon
polar sonnet
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.paste

limber knotBOT
frigid root
broken torrent
warm anchor
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@spare venture oh yah Aikar explained earlier. That's good to know.

worn pasture
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why do you always say competitive barty

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it's the same for any server

limber knotBOT
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So on a server with PVP or minigames nothing that makes it easier for them to win

worn pasture
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I don't recall reading the part about competitive advantages

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I wonder how often they update the terms

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last updated like a week ago

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so you can sell op tools and armour in a PVE server with no leaderboards

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brb starting new server

polar sonnet
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Im running into a a ram issue

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i have 32gb

ancient bolt
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ram it harder

polar sonnet
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with a total of 16gb allocated for the 2 servers im running

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  • bungee
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So I should have roughly 10 left(assuming other proccess)

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I cannot start the server at all

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even with 1gb allocated

onyx steeple
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@spare venture what if you give SpiderMan a rank?

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wouldn't that be cool, eh?

polar sonnet
ancient bolt
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I want a spiderman rank

polar sonnet
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Wtf is using 30gb

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How the fuck

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HOLY FUCK

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theres likes 20 servers running wtf

limber knotBOT
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Mob AI optimizations: We make use of an event-based system for some tasks in order to reduce the CPU usage incurred by constantly polling the world for changes. Mob "brains" have also been optimized to select between different AI tasks much, much quicker than before. Comparison before and after here.

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Someone finally did it

polar sonnet
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is there a way to kill proccess from a specific user?

limber knotBOT
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I wanted to do that optimization since 1.2 came out, always seemed too complicated though

polar sonnet
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Yah sure?

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mhm