#general
limber knotBOT
Oh hey this mod also has something like mikeprimm's old block scheduler optimization
late dome
violet sand
void void
proven stag
does anyone want to help me with a plugin?
slim nymph
@polar sonnet go into htop options and turn off user threads
heady spear
lol plotsquared is on blackspigot, I feel accomplished
except that they included a fucking link to our discord and morons are joining requesting setup help <.<
ancient bolt
$4221 mfw
woven otter
just regenerate it city
ancient bolt
but it's black aluminum with glass top, exactly what I want
woven otter
that's like entire life savings and more
ancient bolt
lol less than 2 bay area rents π
heady spear
This plugin is essential for many servers and had newer versions starting to be listed as premium disallowing most servers being able to use what should be a free resource
lol the request thread, I love that π
heady spear
it's a fucking desk mate
ancient bolt
yeah, desks are important
heady spear
right, as long as it's a flat surface you're kinda set tho
ancient bolt
quality and presentaiton really matter to me though
idk if they matter as much as 4 grand but maybe
heady spear
if they do then boi u got problemos
woven otter
πΏ
heady spear
You could buy the cheaper desk and spend the rest on therapy π
ancient bolt
I'd rather just buy the desk tho
heady spear
that seems like the worse option
I mean it's a decent looking desk ngl
but you could buy so many packets of oreos for that money
woven otter
woven otter
only sometimes?
vestal jasper
Sponge supports itemstacks being used as recipe ingredients.
However stored enchantment meta on enchanted books are ignored when calculating recipe result.
copper stone
Im opening a server with some youtubers who have a large fanbases around 1 million each.
We're expecting 500-1000 players, and we want to do survival. I wanted to know if papermc 1.15.2 can support those kinds of numbers?
woven otter
yeah don't think even 1.8 can handle that many users
copper stone
but how many
like how many do u guys think survival can support on it's own like 100?
heady spear
I wouldn't even try going above 100 if you wanted anything remotely resembling the survival experience
copper stone
hmm
quasi valley
sounds like a lack of braincells
heady spear
I mean it's not like it's a loss of revenue for us because they wouldn't have bought it to begin with so it makes no difference
but I don't like the idea of them using some sketchy jar
vestal jasper
do you think the kind of retard who browses piracy sites has the mental capacity to even know what the command line is?
vestal jasper
lemme clarify, the kind of retard who pirates fucking minecraft plugins/mods
celest moss
snow sage
heady spear
im gonna make the reverse of blackspigot
make a site where I re-upload free resources but charge money for them
slim nymph
you could collect authors paypal email info, setup paypalbuttons that set an IPN url back to server, then on payment to the actual author, it gives them the resource,
sorry that bones the idea to make YOU money though π
heady spear
wtf aikar how do i get rich from that
vestal jasper
you get commission from the devs 
right clicking a bookshelf with an enchanted book fires a cancelled interact event in sponge
ok
slim nymph
ok require them to pay 13.50$ to author and 1.50 to you (to cover pp fees decently), once the 15$ is received, unlocked
slim nymph
sell 1000 free plugins and make 1000$
heady spear
that sounds like a lot of work, I'll just go beck people to pledge to my patreon instead
potent fossil
just found out that spyro got remastered
the og game not the new shit
im
i have to
polar sonnet
Bro what the fuck
I have servers running that literally arent tied to anything
They say they are running but i cant connect
heady spear
how did you just find that out? .-.
quasi valley
oh not you again
heady spear
u need to play them
quasi valley
hey, zimple is of the slow kind, give him time!
heady spear
100% worth it
polar sonnet
polar sonnet
Literally wtf
potent fossil
then i am going toplay
heady spear
good
heady spear
what console?
polar sonnet
I hid the threads
potent fossil
i played on the PS1
but, im getting it on PC atm
will use controller like good old days
polar sonnet
Can anyone help me with this lol
heady spear
right, I played them on the PS2 I think lol
I've been meaning to get them on the switch tho
potent fossil
seeing as you're not even in the help channel im going to ignore you
and keep talking about spyro
polar sonnet
What help would this even go under?
heady spear
yes let's talk about spyro
my sister and I played through the trilogy .-. She forced me to do all the hard stuff
potent fossil
i cant wait to play as my purple dragon guy again and do the skateboarding stuff and fuck this was my life
city, my LIFE
cedar spade
well, your options are #paper-help and #waterfall-help
heady spear
tbf that's her with every fucking game, I had to do all kingdom hearts bosses for her <.<
quasi valley
the only spyro related game I played was with these nice portal thing you places your figures on π
forgot its name even
potent fossil
yes THE PORTALS
heady spear
But ye the spyro games are lit
cedar spade
I'm just waiting for SpongeBob SquarePants Battle for Bikini Bottom Rehydrated to come out
potent fossil
bruh that game was my shit too
quasi valley
it's too dehydrated already
heady spear
i need a new switch game to play, that damn console is just sitting there
cedar spade
am sad bc I never got to play the proper bfbb since I had the crappy PC version
heady spear
waiting for gods & monsters :<<
ancient bolt
I mean I could buy the terra pro but that's like 3.5k so I might as well spend the 4k in that case
quasi valley
am just playing the waiting simulator animal crossing
cedar spade
but if Creature from the Krusty Krab was anything to go by then I need all the Spongebob games I can get
same lol
quasi valley
I don't know either, no worries
cedar spade
Me neither
quasi valley
it just has insultingly bad UI flow, but it's still fun :>
cedar spade
MASH B
quasi valley
and insultingly slow/repetitive dialogue, but it's so fun
cedar spade
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
quasi valley
but there's too much pineapl 0/10 never play again
fallen oracle
I want to buy animal crossing
cedar spade
mashing B is what makes dialogue tolerable for me
fallen oracle
But I need to buy a switch
quasi valley
lmao
cedar spade
but NH doesn't have pineapples (yet?)
quasi valley
I don't think it's worth buying a switch just for AC, maybe if you have other games you really want to buy and play
cedar spade
also Kenny you got the new Nook's Cranny yet?
heady spear
breath of the fucking wild
cedar spade
ooo nice
vestal jasper
city when are you taking me out to dinner we haven't gone out on a date in months
cedar spade
I want to get Breath of the Wild but I just bought Smash (and Animal Crossing like a month ago)
quasi valley
mario party, mario kart
cedar spade
Mario Kart
fallen oracle
I'd buy it for my parents too
heady spear
Gods & Monsters looks lit tho I just hope they release it this year .-.
cedar spade
Is Super Mario Party that good?
quasi valley
hmm it's alright
heady spear
odyssey is surprisingly good, I didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I do :-:
quasi valley
I never really liked its concept, but it's nice for the ones who do
too random for me
fallen oracle
It's been pretty rainy here so I am not making that much from mowing yards so I'm slowly saving up for a switch.
cedar spade
I haven't played any 3D Mario games since 64 DS
heady spear
don't get the witcher 3 tho unless you like being frustrated as shit π
vestal jasper
can a bunch of people start typing all at once again pls I want to SS something
cedar spade
No
heady spear
I was never into the 3d mario games at all
fallen oracle
But tbf I did just get a new phone
heady spear
but odyssey is surprisingly good
quasi valley
me neither, but odyssey is just great
fallen oracle
So I guess I don't need a switch right away
I charge my phone like every other day now, I'm genuinely impressed.
heady spear
what did you get? .-.
fallen oracle
Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra
cedar spade
I mean I've been trying to play Sonic Generations through again and god the PS3 version is awful compared to PC
quasi valley
sonic games 
quasi valley
alrighty gotta go, have fun poopl
potent fossil
glare send me money
cedar spade
I enjoyed Adventure and Generations when I played them a few years ago
but that was on PC and Adventure was heavily modded
fallen oracle
Simple I told you $5 once you finish and deploy the spigot PR
heady spear
wow Glare is so generous
vestal jasper
fallen oracle
I mean it was higher but he's taking forever
potent fossil
says the guy who cant do any of the work w/o help
slim nymph
is that 5$ for submitting it, or after md5 accepts it? if latter, lol fuck that
potent fossil
no he wants me to finish replacing the URL mcbanners hits
its like 4 files but he cant figure out how to do it
because hes a noob
ancient bolt
if you give me $4000 so I can buy this desk I'll do it
potent fossil
oh ya let me get my checkbook
ancient bolt
who uses checks these days
potent fossil
fallen oracle
It's not that I can't figure it out, it's that's I'm focused on other things right now. I'll get to it next week.
keen terrace
Hey all, did anyone else's players experience any lag in the nether once you introduced Paper's anti-xray to those worlds?
I added this line of code to the Paper config:
world_nether:
anti-xray:
enabled: true
engine-mode: 2
chunk-edge-mode: 2
max-chunk-section-index: 7
update-radius: 2
hidden-blocks:
- glowstone
- nether_brick
- nether_brick_fence
- nether_brick_stairs
- nether_wart
- quartz_ore
replacement-blocks:
- lava
- netherrack
- soul_sand
- magma
The x-ray itself is working fine, but some of my players started complaining about lag in the nether after I did this. This is definitely client-side since TPS is 20, and only about half of all the players experienced the lag. Any one have the same issue or know what the problem might be?
wicked birch
Not sure why my college doesn't have Calculus for ComSci students ._.
peak dirge
@slim nymph just restarted with higher G1 region sizes, let's see if things improve with regard to the humongous regions
I pushed the proxy to 8M and the housing servers to 16M
Already have an update on that proxy, too. The humongous regions went from 96 to 60, but the server hasn't been up for long. So we will need to evaluate some more.
slim nymph
they are able to free, but yeah proxies is what typically finds themselves destroyed with hum due to low memory
but ideally proxies would only be impacted by chunk packets
large buffers
prob fine to even use 16M on proxies and just have less regions.
since proxies is extremely short lived data
woven jackal
peak dirge
I'll monitor it but I'm going to set -Dio.netty.allocator.maxOrder=9 in order to have Netty not allocate giant buffers (by default it's allocating 16MiB buffers for direct and heap memory for pooled memory, and IMO unless your case is extreme, 4MiB (my setting) works better).
I will probably bump to 16M for the G1RegionSize
wicked cradle
peak dirge
We are using this setting on Velocity and our Paper servers without issue.
anyway I'm going to get some sleep
Servers are going to get more stressed today as it will be a Saturday
slim nymph
@peak dirge direct buffers shouldnt matter for G1HeapRegionSize, that only relates to heap memory
fallen oracle
Aikar you are up way past your bedtime.
Your alarm went off 3 hours ago.
Why are you awake?
short yarrow
What projects do yall work on outside of MC? I do like java, but since I can't think of any projects to do. I just make web apps using nodejs
heady spear
y brigadier no mergy merge
slim nymph
@fallen oracle that was one night, ive been going to bed5-6am lately π¦
fallen oracle
I'm your new alarm. It's bedtime.
cedar spade
is there anyone with a Samsung phone on One UI 2?
it finally got released for my phone and idk what to expect lol
cedar spade
One UI is the name they picked after people kept making fun of TouchWiz and Samsung Experience
cosmic raft
they are all garbage
tired vessel
median cargo
void void
raven iron
umbral lichen
worn ember
Ye wiz is garbage 
woven otter
nice knowing you dark
gloomy copper
hi i heard if if i buy server with 1 core and 3 it will be same is it true or?
is it cores or threads?
olive garden
more cores do help
only you know whether those are actual cores or just logical ones
while Minecraft mainly utilizes a single core, so the single thread performance is what really matters when it comes to benchmark, having multiple cores does help
gloomy copper
tnx
safe mason
Can developers resell forks of plugins?
If so, what do developers have to do to insure that the license is respected (from the original plugin) ?
vernal kelp
void void
slate yoke
feral rock
worn ember
π
pulsar wigeon
smh dark
worn ember
am sorry 
pulsar wigeon
obv ur not
quasi valley
sassy
left swift
quick terrace
quick terrace
hi
latent valve
π
TheViperShow yea i also see this with tnt
get stop then push into a block lol
MOJANG plz fix this visual bug
ancient maple
quasi valley
debugging
left swift
Just bring minecraft to the good old days where it was just grass and stone
void void
mooooooods
limber knotBOT
:eyes:
void void
huh, my soldering station squeaked. would that be a bug or a feature
worn ember
if it starts burning its a bug
void void
It's a chinease knockoff, so it could be a feature
Soldering station and critter hole combo unit
inland jay
Ey
Im using the PlayerItemHeldEvent event
how do i determin in wich direction the player has been scrolling
just comparing the previous, and the new slot leads me to a small problem
everytime i jump from the first to the last, or the last to the first, my way of checking doesnt work
limber knotBOT
you don't, you use the old and new slot
wide chasm
inland jay
phoenix616 well can we talk about that at #paper-dev?
limber knotBOT
doesn't really matter imo Β―_(γ)_/Β―
undone raptor
Help put me to run this cron script but it doesn't run
void void
limber knotBOT
you need to specify the program that you want to run
void void
every day 10:47 this script will be ran
limber knotBOT
no it wont
void void
hmmh?
limber knotBOT
he hasn't specified a program to execute the script
undone raptor
Yes, that's what I want, but right now when the 10:47 passed, the script did not run
limber knotBOT
hm, I guess in that case it might
void void
unless it's retarded cron impl? lol
limber knotBOT
I'm just used to always set the program, lol
void void
Polkito, what's your first line in the script?
and did you do chmod +x or equivalent command?
undone raptor
If you run that command, the script is simple. When I run it manually it works
#!/bin/bash
BINDIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -fn "$0")")
cd "$BINDIR"
bash -c "rm dssdsd"
void void
add this: set -e
make your script exit on first failed command
and ensure that you have done chmod +x
stat .../rm.sh will tell you
undone raptor
Ok thanks now i will try it
Something else happened to me, when I try to run this script nothing happens:
BINDIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -fn "$0")")
cd "$BINDIR"
screen -S "sv" bash -c "sh ./loop.sh"```
fierce wedge
undone raptor
I did what he told me, with the rm script it works fine, I delete the file that I assigned it but with this one start.sh cron doesn't execute it
sweet siren
feral radish
undone raptor
What start.sh does is create the "sv" screen and then run the loop script to run the server
BINDIR=$(dirname "$(readlink -fn "$0")")
cd "$BINDIR"
echo "\033]0;tct\007"
while true
do
java -jar -Xmx1G -Xms1g paper-118.jar
echo 'Willst Du den Server komplett stoppen, drΓΌcke STRG-C, \nbevor die Zeit bei 1 ist!'
echo "rebooting!:"
for i in 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
do
echo "$i..."
sleep 1
done
echo 'rebooting!'
done```Is there a way to make this command run on a screen?
ashen cliff
Something like this @reboot /usr/bin/screen -dmS Name /home/potato/start.sh
undone raptor
@ashen cliff LoL thank you very much it worked perfectly
silk island
anyone just got a spare java account one of my friends wanna go on to this server but he dont have mc and i cant get it for him i got no money. dm me
wicked birch
Still hoping OVH has a dedi in SG for atleast $60 so my network can finally leave shared VPS instances.
keen terrace
Hey quick question. When we do ** when giving command, does it apply to everyone (including offline) or just all online players? I know it's one of the two options but I forgot
limber knotBOT
that depends on the plugin but it's very unlikely that any plugin supports giving to all offline players that joined before
keen terrace
I remember reading it somewhere but I can't find the difference between * and ** now
I found this in EssentialsX's github and if what I uds isn't wrong, * is for all online users while two of it is for all users (including offline)
final UUID uuid = StringUtil.toUUID(searchTerm);
if (uuid != null) {
final User matchedUser = ess.getUser(uuid);
updatePlayer(server, sender, matchedUser, commandArgs);
} else if (matchWildcards && searchTerm.contentEquals("**")) {
for (UUID sUser : ess.getUserMap().getAllUniqueUsers()) {
final User matchedUser = ess.getUser(sUser);
updatePlayer(server, sender, matchedUser, commandArgs);
}
} else if (matchWildcards && searchTerm.contentEquals("*")) {
boolean skipHidden = sender.isPlayer() && !ess.getUser(sender.getPlayer()).canInteractVanished();
for (User onlineUser : ess.getOnlineUsers()) {
if (skipHidden && onlineUser.isHidden(sender.getPlayer()) && !sender.getPlayer().canSee(onlineUser.getBase())) {
continue;
}
updatePlayer(server, sender, onlineUser, commandArgs);
}
true vigil
slim nymph
Ok this is just stupid. @unreal quarry I'm gonna put a config option in like your plugin lol. AFK'd in creative.
cause this now falls into performance territory
dusk drift
void void
ashen cliff
I just disabled them.
Hate those fuckers.
We Need New OverWorld Mobs
Mojang adds new overworld mobs
WAS WISHING FOR A OVERWORLD MOB A MISTAKE?
fallen lintel
lament patio
r/maliciouscompliance
twin bronze
void void
phantoms shouldn't spawn at all when in creative mode
i'd say that this is a dumb bug
this has bugged me for years
queen rose
golden gust
I mean
That's only part of the issue with phantoms
They don't care who they target afaik
They'll only spawn for people who haven't slept, but, afaik, there is nothing that would stop them retargeting etc
viscid jacinth
smoky spindle
uncut mirage
ashen cliff
@viscid jacinth
viscid jacinth
@ashen cliff
ashen cliff
Have fun looking at Brane. Brane.
ashen cliff
Mine is better:
https://posili.me/i/2020-04-25_19-52-04.png
viscid jacinth
Oh god
scarlet crater
Hi, Im having a problem...
ashen cliff
viscid jacinth
Probably you have something already running on port 25565.
scarlet crater
I changed the port to 30000 but it didnt work
viscid jacinth
Running on Windows?
scarlet crater
yes
viscid jacinth
Open batch file (startup file) with administrator.
scarlet crater
the .jar file or the .bat
viscid jacinth
Bat
solemn sparrow
scarlet crater
C:\WINDOWS\system32>java -Xms512M -Xmx2G -jar thecity64.jar
Error: Unable to access jarfile thecity64.jar
C:\WINDOWS\system32>pause
Presione una tecla para continuar . . .
thats what appearts
viscid jacinth
Probably firewall? Try turning it off, or just open the port.
scarlet crater
the port is opened ill try turning off
it doesnt work
Ive just turned the version of paper
can that cause problems?
how do I see if that port is in use?
ashen cliff
I assume I already mentioned that that Slovenian MC community is beyond help?
inland karma
vapid island
scarlet crater
Idk how but it got solved
slim nymph
system32 is best server folder
vapid vigil
slim nymph
then you pirate a plugin and the plugin catches you and deletes your server folder
upper flicker
ashen cliff
Personally I like running my cracked plugins in / with the root account and have the EFI mounted.
void void
hey can someone help i downloaded the playerpoints plug in but now i want i commect it with my skywars game. so that when i kill someone i get 1 point and when i win i get 5 points.
how do i contact him/her
look at wherever you downloaded the plugin from
i downloaded from https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/playerpoints
then look at it and see if there's a contact me bit or something
nope
ashen cliff
Best way to contact him: https://github.com/Mitsugaru/PlayerPoints/issues
void void
does somonee know his discord?
create a issue on the github page, it's unlikely that any of us know who they are
jolly isle
quiet prism
lime sparrow
polar sonnet
Any1 know a good playerworlds plugin??
quasi valley
make not sleeping a challenge
olive garden
they did stop you from finishing the roof on our house @worn ember
quasi valley
.rekt
limber knotBOT
β The Rekt Prince of Bel-Air
wide chasm
The main problem with phantoms is just that sleeping is nothing more than a nuisance, you don't want to do it, but if you don't you're gonna keep getting attacked by those guys. So you either deal with them constantly, or you constantly sleep and both options are annoying.
quasi valley
it'd be nice if you could hold them of with light sources, or even a torch in your hand
worn ember
or if they didnt exist
golden gust
I mean
quasi valley
or if you didnt exist
golden gust
idk about you
but, I've literally never seen a multiplayer server in which sleeping was a thing
there is always somebody who is AFK etc, so going to sleep would do nothing bar reset your counter
Which, like, bleh
wide chasm
You're pretty much forced to use some kind of plugin (or hell even a datapack) to make sleeping work on multiplayer.
worn ember
if ur lucky theres a 50% sleep -> day plugin
olive garden
^^
worn ember
but even thats optimistic
golden gust
personally, I just disable it
polar sonnet
Is paper 1.13 still supported?
worn ember
no
wide chasm
It isn't
polar sonnet
1.14?
wide chasm
Also not
worn ember
no
worn ember
polar sonnet
[15:06:06 ERROR]: Could not pass event InventoryClickEvent to zKingdoms vmc1.8-v1.6.5
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 'java.lang.String org.bukkit.inventory.Inventory.getName()'
Yah love to see it
wide chasm
Was about to say that π
worn ember
inventory name got removed iirc
wide chasm
Yep
wide chasm
Should be an easy fix if it's in an InventoryClickEvent though
worn ember
#blameMD5
polar sonnet
No idea how to uncompile then recompile
wide chasm
Since you can do event#getView#getTitle iirc
worn ember
is it opensource?
quasi valley
using closed source plugins
wide chasm
You can use a decompiler like fernflower to get source code and then compile it via Maven or Gradle or whatever
polar sonnet
Where can I download such utility?
void void
at least it's a bukkit plugin. forge plugins are horrible to decompile last time i tried
ashen cliff
Nah, recompiling is the hard part.
void void
i would be willing to try porting it over, if i wasn't busy enough already
ashen cliff
There is a 1.14.4 fork on Github, but it's untested.
void void
i haven't been bored at all since lockdown
analog pollen
void void
whick kingdoms plugin is it?
polar sonnet
zKingdoms
worn ember
inb4 obfuscated
white lark
void void
found a problem, can't be updated it unless the orig dev does it
golden gust
That TOS stands for jack shit
scarlet crater
who can recomend me a protection and mine plugin for prison
void void
good point. meh i might try porting it over, haven't done that in a while
worn ember
entitled dev
polar sonnet
So how would I go about uncompiling andr ecompiling
wide chasm
"Please don't redistribute, only download it from here for free"
void void
they're the kind of person who would like to have nintendo's legal team
polar sonnet
So how would I go about uncompiling andr ecompiling
@polar sonnet
void void
there's absoloutely no point decompiling and recompiling. you'll just get the exact same jar
if you're lucky
polar sonnet
f
worn ember
you gotta decompile it, alter it, and then recompile it lol
wide chasm
Did you say Nintendo? They're gonna come for you now, that's their name /s
polar sonnet
Thats what i meant dark
worn ember
sorry NintendoΒ©
void void
you better hope that plugin isn't obfuscated, makes it more annoying
main storm
worn ember
looking at that ToS i wouldn't be suprised
void void
have fun keepitfresh, welcome to the reverse engineering rabbit hole
polar sonnet
How to edit .class
void void
learn java bytecode if you want to do that
polar sonnet
Might as well learn?
worn ember
use a decompiler
polar sonnet
Any recommended ones?
worn ember
pretty sure fernflower lets you output sources?
void void
yep
white lark
Hello have a problem. It is often the case that players and I can no longer write in the chat because there is always the message that could not be sent. It is also the case that the world no longer loads. I also have a video of it.
void void
though when you're trying to figure out what the hell is going on, a decompiler helps a lot
ashen cliff
Compiled java.
void void
yep that's jd-gui, that decompiler sucks
void void
gotta get decompiled output of that, open it up in your preffered ide (intellij), and have some fun
scarlet crater
who can recomend me a mine plugin for prison and a protection plugin that makes blocks as protection
void void
god no
polar sonnet
oh?
void void
use fernflower
polar sonnet
shall do that bb
limber knotBOT
β 13 Rektsons Why
void void
amazking connector
ashen cliff
Fact.
void void
what's with all the heatsinks
golden gust
because pi
ashen cliff
I got a pack of 50... so I just put them on everything.
golden gust
the soc gets toasty af
void void
true, i haven't got the rpi 4
void void
is it forming an obsession
ashen cliff
It is.
void void
put them all over your house, gotta cool those bricks
unreal quarry
worn ember
at this point it'll just absorb the heat from your decaying soul and heat up the sockets
slim nymph
@unreal quarry oh cool can just pull those then
polar sonnet
getname was changed to get title right?
void void
no idea, look it up
unreal quarry
Be my guest ^_^
slim nymph
or if you wanna help, PR lol and change default to true for ignorePhantomsCreative. 2nd patch id personally be ok with defaulting to true, but i can see that one being more opinionated
overall both impls look fine and can be fast tracked
just im ok with breaking vanilla as default to not spawn for creative, since they dont do shit
golden gust
er, wat?
unreal quarry
Ok, give me few minutes and I'll shoot a pr. I just woke up
golden gust
You don't want a metric fuckton of phantoms?
slim nymph
nope!
golden gust
Sounds dum
slim nymph
cat thoughts on defaulting the insomniacs one?
worn ember
try eating one
golden gust
Imho, it's kinda stupid that they can target over easily
ashen cliff
Add a phantom spawn multiplier.
I'll set it to 100 on Creative.
slim nymph
i see it as a question of which do yoyu feel most people would prefer
i think most would prefer true
it feels like a bug fix to me
and bugs should be default fixed
slim nymph
huh?
golden gust
it's just, starts boiling into plugin territory fast
Basically, I can see why they'd want it to target non-insomiacs
I'd say leave it defaulting false
slim nymph
theres a difference between plugins changing intent of mobs vs fixing what appears to be a mistake in logic
actually, plugins cant fix this
latent valve
PHANTOM ARE NICE!
slim nymph
there is no event for it
latent valve
oops cap
void void
tbh i agree with cat, it's a way of shaming players
void void
good
slim nymph
you are not understanding the conversation nirv
golden gust
I mean, I wish vanilla had threat table type things; e.g. it won't target a non-imsomniac unless you start attacking it or something
ashen cliff
Is it officially a bug or no?
slim nymph
there is no way to fix targetting insomniacs w/o this config, plugins cant fix it
worn ember
i assume we're talking about the second patch?
slim nymph
cancelling entity target event wont make it proceedto the next target to try if 1 insomiac is near a non insomiac
yes dark
worn ember
well they're hostile mobs no? So i agree that they should just attack whatever is nearest or whatever their preferred target is
slim nymph
and i really feel there is a line of "if a majority of servers would prefer a behavior change, dont make them all have to go install a plugin for it"
golden gust
The issue is that they don't have a prefered target
worn ember
is it though? Maybe they're just drawn to the insomniac because insert lore here but not specifically to target only them
golden gust
first one should default to true, second patch I'm on the fence with, for most cases it's not really gonna have a noticable change for, only larger servers, which I could really see them wanting that as defaulting to true tbqh
slim nymph
I see it as more of a preference of behavior. would you prefer that sleeping in bed, which is intended to prevent you from being harassed from phantoms, keep you immune to OTHER player phantoms, which could be used to grief too.
golden gust
yea, that's my thought
slim nymph
it sucks to be good, sleep in bed, go to a spawn and die as someone hoarded a ton of phantoms
golden gust
especially when you see pictures above where it managed to create a fuckton of them
slim nymph
i think most people would prefer that default fixed. and if someone wants to be an asshole to players, let them change it to false lol
golden gust
yea
as I said, I don't think that most people are really gonna notice a change there anyways
slim nymph
so then we good with default true on both
polar sonnet
Is there a way to export from intellij with errors on?
slim nymph
to be fair, we have defaults that impact way more people than this would anyways lol
this is miniscule
worn ember
reee meh 0tick farms reee
golden gust
eclipses compiler supports that, but it literally just replaces the method with a stub compilation error exception
I mean, 0 tick is 100% a bug
worn ember
i know its just a meme at this point
ashen cliff
Not at first.
polar sonnet
Is there a way to export 1 java file as a class then?
polar sonnet
Is there a way to export 1 java file as a class then?
@polar sonnet
golden gust
you'll need to add the original jar and bukkit to the classpath
worn ember
bruh
ashen cliff
I used JByteMod, but you need to know what you are doing.
worn ember
i just smash buttons till shit starts working
ashen cliff
Same.
worn ember
how hard would it be to sync discord emoji's with minecraft? 
like have them actually display in chat
weak wing
worn ember
ig i'll have to rewrite the whole chat system for that right?
ashen cliff
With 1.16? Ez.
void void
this jbytemod is interesting, i'm gonna play around with it
potent fossil
1.16 emoji (image?) support?
ashen cliff
Font, RGB.
potent fossil
π
potent fossil
yes thank you
slim nymph
with a config yes simple
potent fossil
i know
worn ember
emoji font
slim nymph
i dunno why they made it require changing a config
worn ember
potent fossil
server config or client config
worn ember
client prob
potent fossil
F
slim nymph
server
worn ember
wait what
ashen cliff
Might as well use it to get some data back from the client as in 1.8.
potent fossil
nice
worn ember
hacking with fonts 101
slim nymph
lol, as we discuss this phantom shit, i had tons of phantoms by my bed, so when i died, i respawned, to only be attacked again
yeah this is shitty behavior
worn ember
minecraft and shitty go hand in hand 
slim nymph
golden gust
Should probs track the player they spawned for
void void
there should be a mod to bring back the beta behaviour, where inventories were client side. ah that was great
slim nymph
as id expect death to reset insomnia
potent fossil
insomnia outlasts all mortal conditions
golden gust
Not sure it's anything to do with insomnia as much as they just don't despawn
ashen cliff
Just move to the nether.
golden gust
unless am misunderstanding you
golden gust
ah, we already track their spawning entity
slim nymph
is there a setting in essentials to keep inventory or soemthing
one of my test plugins forces keep inv
gamerule is false
golden gust
there is a permission for it
worn ember
op's keep inventory by default i think
slim nymph
_>
scarlet crater
who can recomend me a mine plugin for prison and a protection plugin that makes blocks as protection}
void void
i swear i've seen that message a few times today
slim nymph
wtf config s that
worn ember
lol
cobalt surge
thats ALOT of phantoms you go there Aikar
void void
how did you manage that many phantoms? I usually get 3
slim nymph
keep nor inventory exist in file
unreal quarry
it sucks to be good, sleep in bed, go to a spawn and die as someone hoarded a ton of phantoms
That's exactly why I made the insomniac patch. Was heavily used to grief players on my server :3
slim nymph
yes so how do i turn off the feature so it doesnt check perm
slim nymph
,... thats a bug
worn ember
its not a feature but its also not a bug
slim nymph
who's the one maintaining essentials
shouldnt have to go inverting perms to fix behavior
only X matters anymre?
worn ember
you shouldnt be op anyway
ashen cliff
EssentialsY
slim nymph
yes you should lol. theres nothing wrong with op
cobalt surge
but being op i sfun
slim nymph
no, im an admin on a damn test server, i dont have a perms plugin. i use permissions.yml
essentials should register that perm as op: false
unreal quarry
You can open the plugin.yml and change the default from op to false (assuming ess properly uses plugin yml to register perms)
golden gust
op is perfectly fine for a test server
worn ember
just invert essentials.keepinv
void void
hello everyone
golden gust
for a production server, I don't really recommend using op, but, tbqh, some plugins are also dumb...
unreal quarry
I'm finding more and more plugins that just don't use plugin.yml anymore, tho, which is making it difficult to handle perms and command suggestions properly :3
slim nymph
done π
@still smelt I use permissions.yml for my own production server. I don't use any perm plugins
golden gust
permissions.yml is ez
worn ember
you monster
slim nymph
i have a giant set of trees in there, then i register a few parent nodes based on context by my plugin
golden gust
if you only need op/not op on your server, permissions.yml works fine; It's just not really a system designed for people who aren't familair with dev stuff, much easier to actually just recommend a plugin as the documentation for that page scares most server owners anyways
worn ember
take a shot every time someone says plugin
polar sonnet
I think i did it
worn ember
3.6k mentions of 1.8
ashen cliff
ashen cliff
Your opinion = invalid.
jade meteor
potent fossil
did viper just call the division of two constants periodic
ashen cliff
Looks like it.
potent fossil
Amazing
void void
i need more hands
2 is simply too little
ashen cliff
So what would you do with 4?
worn ember
give 4 hj instead of 2
worn ember
imagine being able to type on 2 keyboards at the same time tho
void void
did what?
ashen cliff
And non binary?
polar sonnet
fixed the plugin
void void
works on 1.15 now?
worn ember
sorry we only do binary here
polar sonnet
Yes
void void
well done
void void
thanks to your modified plugin?
polar sonnet
No no
ashen cliff
Startup != working.
ashen cliff
Cursed Nvidia/Intel artifacts.
polar sonnet
Not sure why
limber knotBOT
rip graphics card
void void
wait you're advertising in your discord account
polar sonnet
oh my bad
ashen cliff
So is jake.
void void
true, except i know who jake is
polar sonnet
Any idea why generating a new world does this
?
Not sure if its the right spot
If it isnt my bad
polar sonnet
Even with a 1.15 plugin it does this
twin lagoon
what paper version are you on
cunning badge
whats your payper build vrsion
golden gust
Basically, paper has patches to improve that
Saying that, ultimate fix is gonna be to disable loading the spawn
polar sonnet
I think 180 is a little outdated...
just a tad
cat
how do i disable the spawn loading
Oh nevermind not even an issue anymore
worn ember
@ashen cliff actually that happend to me on my AMD GPU too
ashen cliff
Welcome to hell.
worn ember
it comes and goes as it pleases apparently
havent had it in a while
or it was some setting fucking up
dont remember
ashen cliff
Up to the drivers.
Aka. what kind of bullshit they try to pull for a small performance boost.
worn ember
:))
slim nymph
@polar sonnet update and its then fixed.
oh i see you figured that out
time to piss off some more 2b2t players if 2b ever goes to 1.15
ashen cliff
We all know that won't happen.
slim nymph
well he went to 1.13 as bad as it was too lol
ashen cliff
He also tried 1.15.2, from what I remember.
slim nymph
I've worked with the owner numerous times to fix bugs
that servers a good source of finding issues to fix...
latent valve
Hause is high on crack he cant update
ashen cliff
It's bound to happen when you unleash 250 special users on a server without any real rules.
latent valve
π Aikar talk to Hause π
slim nymph
when @high gate finishes porting that movement patch, maybe 1.15 will be much more closer to 1.13 at least
man race conditions has been the story of my week
had to fix 2 really hard to find race conditions for work too
latent valve
Oh fuck a doop patch π
golden gust
noice
solemn sparrow
What is travertine pls ?
ashen cliff
Waterfall with 1.7 support.
solemn sparrow
like an odd bungeecord waterfall proxy for 1.7 modded servers ?
ashen cliff
Yes, but no.
solemn sparrow
?
ashen cliff
If the mods do stupid stuff, no.
If they don't, yes.
solemn sparrow
It was created for modded servers ?
golden gust
No
it was created for 1.7 support
mod support is a bit shaky
We aim to support forge, but we can only do so much
cunning badge
wdym with 1.15 will be closer to 1.13?
golden gust
closer performance
cunning badge
1.13 was garbage in performance, no?
golden gust
I mean, vs 1.14/5?
cunning badge
I think 1.15 is working pretty well
But I guess thats because of the paper improvements
golden gust
Basically, this is gonna bring an area of 1.15 to 1.13 levels
neat yoke
Anyone know how/if its possible to make a simple JDA Webhook or smth so when a player logs in I can send a message to my discord?
quick marsh
cunning badge
@neat yoke There are tons of libraries out there
neat yoke
Hmm oki.
high gate
ah yeah I should finish up that patch
ashen cliff
Upload it as a draft and never finish it.
high gate
Pretty much what I did
solemn sparrow
Guys i have a pretty big problem, cuz my players gets automatically feed on the server but idk from hot plugin it comes from, any idea how to fix this ?
slim nymph
1.13 was no 1.12 , but it sure ashell was better than what we got now lol
quasi valley
remove half of your plugins and tryβ’οΈ
solemn sparrow
lul, a simply way ?
limber knotBOT
that is the simple way
solemn sparrow
and by a complicated way ?
limber knotBOT
printing a stacktrace in the server source in the method that sets food level π
solemn sparrow
how do i do ?
limber knotBOT
you don't if you don't know how to, that's why it's the complicated way :p
potent fossil
you would have to add it in the server code yourself, it's literally not something you can do yourself unless you know how to code. we're not being mean
we won't help you do that
the simple way is to remove plugins till it works
then find out which plugin is doing it
limber knotBOT
or just set a breakpoint ;D
potent fossil
hell, even if you know how to code most people won't bother doing that
maybe phoenix would
he's phoenix
This song's almost completed; All this little ditty needed, Instrument that's double reeded...The oboe!
woven otter
oh bo
potent fossil
i love that song
woven otter
bo is awesome
potent fossil
bo <3
solemn sparrow
found the plugin it's mv
potent fossil
grats
novel horizon
Someone sent me Magma Foundation, is it any good?
Never seen this, weird, even though I was Googling similar things etc.
Pretty early in dev though, probably
worn ember
1.12 performance or riot
peak dirge
@novel horizon Bukkit is not intended for use with Forge, just use Sponge if you really need Forge
novel horizon
I see it's only for 1.12 so far and it also says only dev version, so
peak dirge
Sponge has better support
novel horizon
I was just curious, nothing else
worn ember
just use forge with forge mods to manage your servers
solemn sparrow
use mohist instead of magma, it's a lot better
worn ember
theres plenty of plugin like mods out there
worn ember
mods that do the same as plugins
novel horizon
Claiming chunks, home etc are the primary reason people wanted plugin
worn ember
yeah
novel horizon
But now I don't need that, just curious
worn ember
but yeah sponge is your to go to
solemn sparrow
@novel horizon use mohist.red
novel horizon
I'm using mods like FTBUtilities, really good
novel horizon
Interesting, Fire_Link
solemn sparrow
π
golden gust
There is 0 sane way to bundle bukkit and forge together
Bukkit is just straight down incompatible with the idea of a modded environment
worn ember
π didnt know direwolf was in forge
novel horizon
But still I think it's not needed now, before - sure. For me it was the claiming etc.. But FTBUtilities is a really great mod for that
Yeah, maybe, but now after that time there's not even point in using it together
In earlier days, sure.. Now? Nah.. The most important thing you want sometimes is permissions, claiming chunks / security of building, some commands like tpa, home, random teleport might be useful, but that's like all of the ones u need ^^ or.. I need
worn ember
mods also used to bypass claims a lot with plugins
novel horizon
Yeah
worn ember
with actual mod support you can mainly prevent that
novel horizon
Later it was better, but in early days, there was a lot of things
Yeah, you can also block things or right click with things etc. etc.
Just with few mods
void void
wait zAikar talks to Hausemaster???
worn ember
who?
void void
admin of 2b2t
void void
im actually in 2bs queue right now, luckily i'm out of spawn so i won't be caught in the chunks bans
worn ember
what?
slim nymph
dark is prob unfamiliar with 2b
void void
i pretty much mostly play on 9b, but nothing beats the orginal
slim nymph
they fuck up chunks to make them auto kick you on login
worn ember
players?
slim nymph
so players can effectively ban you
void void
it's something to do with too many packets being sent
worn ember
that seems balanced
void void
when you load the chunk
slim nymph
theyve done it with books/shulkers too
weve got a patch to help that one but its not 100%
void void
and signs, furnaces, hoppers, chests whatever can store stuff really
worn ember
oh is it the chunk overloading one again?
slim nymph
yes
void void
chunk overloading one it the one where the chunk size is too large yes
worn ember
time to store everything in doubles now /s
lemon vodka with coke is pretty nice ngl
(the soda kind lul)
wtf does this even mean
idk why im even looking at this
void void
i dont know either
worn ember
@olive garden you might like this problem
olive garden
don't ping me
worn ember
sit down son
quasi valley
π
worn ember
hmm theres so many popcorntime forks now
void void
i wonder if they're all just fixing the same exploit
worn ember
which exploit?
void void
i can't remember exactly, but it's a public 0 day
golden gust
any good forks?
solemn sparrow
Guys do you think I can take the whole minecraft code to recreate the game such as mcp but which could work with spigot and/or forge ?
golden gust
I mean, I use the 'official' one right now, but it leads a lot to desire
solemn sparrow
like forking mc
void void
you know java?
slim nymph
contribute to one of them instead
golden gust
forge itself literally does that
worn ember
im using this one, just downloaded it, seems a bit wonky