general

[pearl ibex]

I mean, for Python stuff.

I once had like 4 installed at once.

WebStorm... uhhh...

IntelliJ, PyCharm and the C++ one.

[limber knot]

just have IJ and pycharm. pycharm for uni and some tiny itty little pieces of code

[pearl ibex]

I think imma install it just for the laughs.

That sweet JetBrains account must be used. :P

[livid swan]

My server hit 50 players for the first time ever. Just wanted to thank the papermc community allowing me to realize my dreams! ❤️

[heady spear]

yoooo, what do you people use to track resource usage and status etc across a network of servers?

we already use plan for analytics but I kinda need something for realtime stats and whatnot

[limber knot]

apparently a normal speedrun of mc in whatever version they're using is supposed to take 5-7 minutes. both of these people, that are top leaderboard people competing for 4 grands, are at double/tripple that time lmao https://www.twitch.tv/ezscape

[naive sleet]

yo how do I find players for my servers

[left swift]

I'm trying to make an end build around the main island on my server but respawning the enderdragon would reset anything i would do to the pillars, is there away to control what the respawn does so it doesn't remove things around the pillars? Worldguard doesn't seem to have anything about that and couldn't find a plugin related to that

[pulsar wigeon]

modify the server directly

or like, add some events so plugins can do stuff at least

(which means modifying the server)

[left swift]

Oof

Ok

[pulsar wigeon]

or like, manually spawn a new dragon

so the normal respawn stuff doesn't happen

[left swift]

Yeah that's probably going to be the easiest way

[hazy ravine]

I am currently setting up Proxmox and will be installing MineOS later on.
Obviously it's a bit baised to ask in this server but:

1. How drastic is the performance increase to spigot?
2. Are there some compatibility issues? (I am gonna keep it fairly simple with plugins but I wanna know what I am up against).
3. Are the default settings good?

[limber knot]

unless you have really really stupid plugins, there won't be compatibility issues

[void void]

@shell vine

It's not really that big I guess. But it sure sounds nice

[shell vine]

pretty big

[void void]

Just shook my house playing some dubstep

[shell vine]

full immersion movies i guess!

[shell vine]

getting all that for free is awesome though

[void void]

What's your sub size

Yeah I'm new to this. I've never hooked this up before. I had to do the wiring myself.

[shell vine]

12 inch

[void void]

Was an experience

When we say sub size are we talking the size of the drum itself

What looks like a drum anyway rip

[shell vine]

https://www.svsound.com/products/sb-2000

[heady spear]

I read it as "I've never hooked up before" and was very confused about the wiring

I thought u were asking for sex advice in here lol

[void void]

O yeah this is 12 inch.

It's the Klipsch SPL120

[static badge]

12 inch

[shell vine]

i never rly get to blast it tho cuz i live in a apartment building

[void void]

I had to blast it at least once

😈

[limber knot]

you can blast city

[golden gust]

[shell vine]

[latent valve]

https://media.tenor.com/images/a3144f5f359ae09c1c1321964788592a/tenor.gif

[austere ivy]

Is there a good tutorial or walkthrough on how to manage creating one plugin for multiple platforms (bungee, velocity, bukkit, sponge, etc) or multiple versions?

In some plugins' source I see they have a folder for each platform and then a common folder and they link them up using maven modules or something like that. I'm wondering if anyone has any good suggestions for where to go to learn that.

[golden gust]

it's just abstraction

your common module implements your core logic, you'll then have your platform specific impls which will fire up that common module

[austere ivy]

I'm guessing it's just interfaces and implementations but how would you have one maven package cycle generate multiple jars for different platforms

[golden gust]

there are a few design patterns for it

[austere ivy]

Oh

[golden gust]

but, it's really not all that complex

[austere ivy]

It's not the common module firing up platform specific implementations but rather those implementations firing up the common module?

[golden gust]

yes

[austere ivy]

nevermind dum question.

[golden gust]

Well, your platform specific stuff will generally contain the entrypoint for the platform

[austere ivy]

Right, right yeah.

So how would you point for maven to generate a velocity jar and use the velocity and common packages or something like that?

I haven't touched anything like that at all so I don't even know what I don't know.

I want to know where I can go to learn it.

[golden gust]

you would have a module that depends on velocity and your common module

[limber knot]

https://mkyong.com/maven/maven-how-to-create-a-multi-module-project/

[pulsar wigeon]

or use gradle

[golden gust]

basically works the exact same, but

gradle ❤️

[austere ivy]

should I take this as an opportunity to learn gradle?

[limber knot]

iirc the gradle submodule stuff is a little more complicated but that's mostly just because it's a programming language and there is more than one way to do it

Which is true for gradle in general

[golden gust]

gradle is a pita to get to learn

But, like, once you figure out how to do things ❤️

it's crazy being able to compile a small plugin in literally 3 seconds

vs maven... glares

[pulsar wigeon]

gradle submodules are way easier tbh

sooo much less stuff to keep track of

[limber knot]

https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/multi_project_builds.html

[golden gust]

also, incremental compiler support is ❤️

[limber knot]

Bonus to gradle, you can write your build configuration in kotlin

[austere ivy]

One of the main things that takes me away from gradle is the fact that you have multiple files.

What are these multiple files?

And why does it seem like every gradle project has it's own version of.. gradle?

./gradle

or whatever

[golden gust]

that's the gradle wrapper

you don't /need/ need it, but, you'd kinda be stupid not to

[limber knot]

Right so one advantage to gradle over maven for multi-module projects is you can define all of it in your parent module build file

[golden gust]

gradle is more sensitive against upgrades

[limber knot]

Instead of having a pom file for each sub-module like with maven

yarn in the JS world has also moved to shipping your own copy of the build tool

Well, you still install yarn globally but it delegates to your local one automatically if it exists

I do think gradle is the better choice in the Java world, at least if you use kotlin to program it

[golden gust]

I'm conflicted over it, tbh

Like, these days I personally stick to gradle

[austere ivy]

Also, I'm having some issues with maven (😒) these are some errors when I do package:

[golden gust]

But, somebody new? I think that maven is much easier to recommend, tbqh

[limber knot]

The kotlin version starts faster, runs faster, and the type safely lets IntelliJ tell you what is possible and when you're doing something wrong right away

[austere ivy]

kotlin version? of gradle?

[limber knot]

Yeah

[austere ivy]

gradle is a build tool?

[golden gust]

you can write build scripts with gradle

[limber knot]

You can use kotlin or groovy to program it

[golden gust]

^^

[austere ivy]

huh

[limber knot]

kotlin is almost as expressive as the groovy version so you don't really lose anything from it but you gain performance and types

[austere ivy]

anyway any ideas why maven is doing yellow exclamation pointy thingies

[golden gust]

bad maven repo

[austere ivy]

why is md-5's maven repo doing this to me

I'm not even mentioning his maven repo anywhere in my pom.xml?

[limber knot]

paper is pulling in bungeecord-chat, probably

[austere ivy]

is everyone else having this issue?

[limber knot]

https://repo.md-5.net/content/repositories/releases/net/md-5/bungeecord-chat/1.15-SNAPSHOT/maven-metadata.xml

You can see the error it's giving there

[austere ivy]

Yes, yes, I see.

How do I fix this?

[limber knot]

No idea :P

[austere ivy]

@md-5

hmm

[limber knot]

I forgot what that error means, it seems like something I should know but it's just not coming to me

[austere ivy]

If it's a problem with md-5's repo, then everyone else should have the issue too, right?

[golden gust]

that repo is marked for releases, and that's requesting or has a snapshot version

ah, bungee stuff ain't even in there actually

[cosmic raft]

well

that was fun

and hurt

[austere ivy]

what?

[cosmic raft]

I just had my ears pierced

[austere ivy]

ah

ow

[cosmic raft]

not that bad actually

[austere ivy]

would not want to do that.

both?

I've already had enough bad experiences with pokey thingies ,_,

[cosmic raft]

yes both

[heady spear]

Gun hurts a lot, needle doesn’t really hurt at all

[pearl ibex]

Imagine developing a MC plugin in Scala.

[void void]

ez

nothing bad in using scala

[pearl ibex]

What about using Lombok? :>

[wide chasm]

.lombok

[limber knot]

[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

[woven otter]

#justiceformagma

[woven otter]

ye

corona is fun

[void void]

peroni virus

[cosmic raft]

@heady spear yeah, the piercing going in is what hurt, the needle was like a light poke

[worn ember]

but why

[cosmic raft]

why what

[worn ember]

peircings

[cosmic raft]

why do you think

best guess

[worn ember]

cuz you like hurting yourself?

[pulsar wigeon]

cuz you're into kinky shit and want to be earcuffed to the bed?

[worn ember]

lmao

[cosmic raft]

[golden gust]

kash, velocity if you can

❤️

[heady spear]

am tipsy so prime time to work on PlotSquared

I should do drunk programming streams to show how pro I am

[golden gust]

explains a lot, really

[heady spear]

i gotta add database migration

omfg this dumb server gui ffs

[pulsar wigeon]

ur dum

[cosmic raft]

how are you today, wiz?

[heady spear]

i forgot the param ok

[cosmic raft]

anything new?

[pulsar wigeon]

i am gross

[sand vale]

city - when you gonna work on FACB?

[pulsar wigeon]

i need to shower but i'm busy gaming 😎

[heady spear]

Ae I think you'll like the changes we've done to flags

[worn ember]

Fast Async Craft Bucket?

[sand vale]

maybe. depends if I update >_<

[pulsar wigeon]

kash m8 ill do u in

fite m3

[sand vale]

the players like the quirks

[heady spear]

You have to, I'll add you to the buyers list

[sand vale]

<3

Keep that up and I might re-join the discord >_<

[pulsar wigeon]

the discord is 🚮 tho

[heady spear]

no

[pulsar wigeon]

why would you do that

[heady spear]

wiz fight me

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not even ur discord city

you gave it to some german

[cosmic raft]

my guild has kittens

i win

[heady spear]

I gave it away because it's trash lol

so I mean ur correct

[pulsar wigeon]

yea i know i am

[sand vale]

I did my part. Got them to start working on shit. :D

Kashike... my /server/ has kittens

:D

And omg the new lobby is LOADED with kitteh art :D

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/or8vxen.png

see even ec likes the cats

[sand vale]

damnit kash...

I want a plugin to display icanhazcheeseburger (did I spell that wrong?) image in-game.

[cosmic raft]

lol

[sand vale]

+s

[sand vale]

know of anything?

[golden gust]

there are those map image plugin thingamabobs

[pulsar wigeon]

can stream videos to maps too

ancient tech

how old are maps now

[sand vale]

yeah

But getting one to pick random kitty pictures

hmmm

[worn ember]

i want cinema in minecraft ktnx

[left swift]

Lol

[pearl ibex]

What is 5Q plus 5Q? :P

[pulsar wigeon]

thank you, you're welcome, your IQ is still 0

[limber knot]

Awwz. :P

[pulsar wigeon]

why is this here exactly?

[ember crag]

So we got tickets a few weeks ago for BTS in Chicago for their Saturday show. Cost $260 for the pair of seats after fees. Ended up finding better seats for the Friday show and decided to sell the Saturday seats. I priced them at the lowest for my section, and am getting back $340 for the pair after StubHub took their cut.

[queen rapids]

sorry ill put it in memes

forgive me

[ember crag]

You are forgiven, my child.

[static badge]

little does that poor soul know that memeing is forbidden here

[pulsar wigeon]

just...not really sure why that was posted here

[static badge]

because it's funny

[pulsar wigeon]

read more like a complaint tbh

[static badge]

once you see wiz shoot down several thousand plebians one more doesn't really make much more of an impact

[ember crag]

Eh

This is true

[heady spear]

It’s 4.30am, idk whether to try to sleep or just accept that I’ll be super tired and move on lol

[limber knot]

there's a 1.16 already?

[void void]

Why are forge and spigot so hard to run together?

Yes @RoboMWM#0000

[limber knot]

#0000

[void void]

what the fuck

you're a webhook bruv

[limber knot]

I just updated to 1.15.2 like a month ago but whatever

no u

ur literally on a web and attached to the hook of dumcord

[latent valve]

1.16 iirc only snapshot

[void void]

1.16 is only in snapshots

Ok anyways

[limber knot]

ya but mr spigot man already has updates going

idk if that means it's close but anyway

[void void]

Why are forge and spigot so difficult to make a server together with?

robo

They're probably just trying to get at it ahead

[limber knot]

*he's

[void void]

so they can have it out close to releaseday

[limber knot]

which idk usually he doesn't but then again I haven't been following closely for years now

also I'm still trying to squeeze paper into a 1GB ram serbur, any tips cuz it aint havin it

[void void]

I managed it

wait no

it was 2gbs

[limber knot]

ya I can do 2GB

[void void]

You should be fine

[limber knot]

can't make it work with 1 tho. used to be able to

[void void]

What is the server gonna be for

just a lobby?

[limber knot]

just squeezing into a free azure vm rn

until I find some other host someday later

linux swap sux compared to windows

or paging I guess is the technical term now

[void void]

pebblehost lol

[lost widget]

Hey, has anyone noticed strange behavior with hoppers when pointed down recently?

They seem to transfer 2 items at a time on my end, and I don;t remember changing any settings related to hoppers in the config.

[limber knot]

I've heard about that host but I've finally looked at it now and wow that's the cheapest I've seen anything for RAM ratio

[void void]

yeah I use them for one server

they're suprisingly cheap

[left swift]

vince u dont have to ask the same question in multiple chats someone will answer you

[ember crag]

I don't know if I can hold off. I think I'm gonna buy that ballin' laptop.

[void void]

what ballin laptop

[ember crag]

MSI 17" with RTX 2070 and 8th gen i7. Open box special for $1600

[void void]

[ember crag]

My GTX 970M and 6th gen i7 is 4 years old now

And I dropped it on a concrete floor.

[void void]

970 oof

[ember crag]

Components are fine, but case is pretty jacked up

Even after I took a hammer to it

[void void]

[ember crag]

Dammit picture, upload

There

[void void]

ouchy

[ember crag]

Yeah, paid $1500 for that 4 years ago

It has served me well, so I think the 2070 should do just as well for just as long

Fuckit, all in or shut up

Let's do this

[heady spear]

I’m at the gym for the first time in half a year

Damn it feels good to be back

But fuck have I gotten weak lmao

[ember crag]

https://www.newegg.com/black-msi-gs75-stealth-1025-gaming-entertainment/p/2WC-000C-00YW3

If anyone wants to be laptop brothers/sisters.

[left swift]

ill take ur old one

[ember crag]

Lol

Gf probably gets it after I work some more on that corner of the case

Right now she uses a Chromebook

But I need a GTA buddy

[void void]

alright chats quiet so

What version of paper are y'all on 😳

[ember crag]

I think mines still hanging back at 1.15.1

[pulsar wigeon]

paper-69

[ember crag]

Haven't been on in a while

[void void]

paper-105 gang

[pulsar wigeon]

the lost version :^)

[static badge]

mfw z actually did that

[void void]

Version 69 shouldve started up with everything saying nice

[ember crag]

I'm on 1.15.1 paper-23

[void void]

ooh

old

[ember crag]

Been slacking

Lol

[void void]

I seem to remember paper90 very vividly for some reason lmao

[ember crag]

And focusing on ksp darkmp

[void void]

anyways why is spigot+forge server really difficult 😳

[limber knot]

have you contributed code to CB/spigot/paper

[void void]

nnnope

do I look like a java dev to you

Python gang

[cosmic raft]

no

i do not want to know what you look like

i have better things to do

[void void]

I don't want you to know what I look like either lol

[cosmic raft]

if your avatar is indication you look like a train wreck

[dusk drift]

[void void]

yes I am a train wreck

[static badge]

[cosmic raft]

go hug a landmine leaf

[static badge]

go trip over an s mine

[limber knot]

anyways that's the reason

[void void]

better

[heady spear]

Kash should look at me instead

[left swift]

no

[heady spear]

Or in a mirror, for that extra pretty view

[cosmic raft]

hi sweetie

[static badge]

only time someone would want to look at you is when they want to know what a goblin looks like

[cosmic raft]

excuse you leaf

[static badge]

was I wrong

no

[cosmic raft]

don't you talk about my future husband like that

[static badge]

can I talk about you like that

you goblin

[void void]

they left what

[left swift]

[limber knot]

ayyy wuts portal-create-radius

[static badge]

mojang changed creation to have its own radius

[limber knot]

for nether portals?

[static badge]

ye

[limber knot]

oo

but

[static badge]

16 blocks

which is why it's a lot faster

[limber knot]

does it still search 128 blocks tho

[static badge]

ye

[limber knot]

ugh

[static badge]

the search is done in POI

[limber knot]

err wut dat short for

[static badge]

which you'll be glad to learn still searches all the blockposes

[limber knot]

point of interest I think not

[static badge]

ye

searching all the blockpos though jfc mojang

[limber knot]

I made something to only search within a couple of chunks just for newly-generated portals

but then travelagent was removed

[static badge]

and now mojang does that for you

portals aren't really a perf issue anymore due to their changes

[limber knot]

wait wait

so

[static badge]

signficantly less of an issue

[limber knot]

a player lights a portal

[static badge]

significantly

[limber knot]

then goes through

which search is used?

[static badge]

poi is searched first then creation

[peak dirge]

Ugh my computer is shitting itself often now

[limber knot]

ok so not what I had it do

[peak dirge]

[256818.850969] Web Content[328452]: segfault at 48 ip 00007f37423b8323 sp 00007ffd7b8ad0a8 error 4 in libxul.so[7f3741abb000+4bf8000]
[256818.850975] Code: 48 83 c4 30 5b 41 5c 41 5d 41 5e 41 5f c3 e8 9a 56 74 ff e8 87 cb 70 ff 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 0f 1f 44 00 00 48 89 f8 <48> 8b 3f 83 3f 00 74 15 48 8d 0d 3e 57 66 06 48 39 cf 74 24 c7 07

[static badge]

segfault

[limber knot]

basically my thing was to avoid causing nether portals to link, but keep existing links still working

so "newly-created" portals would be more likely to generate a new portal instead of "linking" to an existing one

[static badge]

interesting

[limber knot]

so newly-created ones, ones that are lit and then traveled through use a smaller search radius

[static badge]

well u can be glad u don't need to maintain such a patch

[limber knot]

but otherwise remains at the 128 block search for all other teleports

[void void]

Lmao someone's making a spigot+forge hybrid server

[unreal quarry]

again?

a new one pops up every week

[void void]

There's magma and kettle atm

Magma seems the newest

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, it's not even that new at this point

[void void]

is there a newer one?

[pulsar wigeon]

has been discussed multiple times already

¯_(ツ)_/¯

seems like the hype is fabric/bukkit

[void void]

They seem to be doing their own api so that's gonna be interesting

[pulsar wigeon]

meh

it's just interop shit

not really making a new api

[void void]

Interop?

[ancient bolt]

California has a lot of dope food

In case y'all didn't know

San Jose is really nice, I'm glad I landed here

[limber knot]

hmm, openj9 seems to help the server run a bit faster in a 1GB environment

126.177s to start vs 852.543s

am getting illegal capacity tho :c https://hasteb.in/jidorata.txt

[void void]

Robo why are you in a webhook

Minimum to run a 1.15 server good I think is 3gb

[cosmic raft]

hehe

buying another yubikey

$18 discount

[limber knot]

ya idk how2fix https://hasteb.in/ocikuzax.txt

[void void]

Robo 3gb ram is the recommended

[unreal quarry]

robo, you set your max-auto-save-chunks-per-tick to -1

thats what that error is

[limber knot]

uh

isn't that a default value

[unreal quarry]

no

default is 24

[limber knot]

huh

Used to be -1 I guess then

[unreal quarry]

you're thinking of auto-save-interval

[limber knot]

ya, load-threads is like that too

weird

been that way for 1.14 no problem

and earlier prolly, idk when I modified it let's check the git history

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/ZrWqCnK.png

[limber knot]

thanks btw. Still looking, guess I made the change over a year ago

ya it's well over a year ago, if anyone has a fast way to look at a specific file's history instead of me just using the web and file history and jumping in each commit lmk

hmm, still dying with same report billy

wait

it must've overwritten my value

o no I edited max-player-auto-save

I guess I should use my "yamler" plugin for this server too

alright it didn't die

thanks

-1 was a supported value as a default before, guess it got changed and I didn't notice cuz I regen the config on my other server and use a plugin to re-add the configuration keys I care about

[static badge]

robo create an issue

likely an oopsie from the patch I did

[ember crag]

I see you are a mahn of culture as well kashike

[limber knot]

.log

[surreal citrus]

Hey there. Do the new bees spawn in pre-existing world or only newly discovered world like most new content?

[left swift]

They have a chance of spawning on trees everywhere

*everywhere as in old chunks or new chunks

[surreal citrus]

Thank you! 🙂 exactly what I wanted to know

[void void]

how would u change villager trading to be less exploitative and more fun?

[ember crag]

Don't.

[vestal jasper]

remove villagers

[ember crag]

I enjoy my villager gulag

[toxic ember]

does anyone know of a plugin that would make villager priests chase after villager babies

and if they catch up to them it releases the heart particles

[void void]

thats not too hard to make

i think

[unreal quarry]

robomwm, still around? wondering if cancelling item entity damage still works for you in 1.15.2 https://github.com/TechFortress/GriefPrevention/blob/master/src/main/java/me/ryanhamshire/GriefPrevention/EntityEventHandler.java#L699

i'm doing something similar, but its causing client desync. client kills the items in fire/lava but server does not, which results in invisible items

[ashen cliff]

Found the 🇪🇺.

[toxic ember]

I thought it would be really funny @still smelt

[void void]

pedophilia is so funny god it's so fucking hilarious
the childhood trauma

i can't get enough...

/s

[limber knot]

wat happened here

[void void]

he wants a plugin that makes priests chase baby mobs and when they catch it, hearts appear

[limber knot]

oh boy

[void void]

i'd say that falls under rule b, distasteful content at the very least

but im not a mod

[limber knot]

#simpleformod

[void void]

no

[limber knot]

clears the entire guild

[void void]

id lose my goddamn mind

[vestal jasper]

100% of what goes on in #general is distasteful

[limber knot]

no u

[woven otter]

vic is the distasteful one

[latent valve]

Welp spigot site is down

😂

[limber knot]

F

[woven otter]

what is this

[vestal jasper]

ur avatar isn't even a spinning duck

wtf dude

missed opportunity

[woven otter]

sad

[limber knot]

not even duck has a duck picture atm

or well, just of a really ugly duck jumping off a chair

[woven otter]

#justiceformagma

[latent valve]

#justiceforlava

[woven otter]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[limber knot]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

tables deserve some justice too

look at all these nasty people with no tables

[latent valve]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[void void]

people who need to be spoonfed every goddamn thing about code send me into an uncontrollable rage

https://i.imgur.com/546MCbj.png

and he has the audacity to say he's a 'full stack' dev

i can't even

and it was XY too

[limber knot]

sounds like a lack of braincells

[void void]

he told us the other day that he hates reading, please just tell him the answer

i REFUSE to spoon feed these fuckers

i linked him the docs, said good luck.

granted i did show him how to do async/await

but that's not even what he needed

he wanted a specific discord js api

[twin lagoon]

waste of oxygen

[void void]

anyway bedtime

[void void]

discord bot devs are like 10x worse than spigot ones

especially the js ones

the majority are js ones tbh

[woven otter]

simple will u help me

[golden gust]

admincraft got a bit nicer, tbqh

[1:08 PM] BOT Admincraft: So long, KennyTV 😦

[limber knot]

there, got me last message out

[golden gust]

listen her u fuq

i will slay you

and then, poop on ur rug

[limber knot]

oO

not if I burn my house first!"

[olive garden]

why are these actions so familiar, I wonder...

oh, I got it

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1228900/75112604-4347e380-563d-11ea-8494-d219088391ca.png

[heady spear]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MinecraftMemes/comments/eg4eq7/plotsquared_vs_every_plugin/
wtf

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) PlotSquared VS Every Plugin : MinecraftMemes - 1 comment, 9 points - getThisSlime, 1mo ago

[golden gust]

leaves a steaming poop on the top of the rubble that once was your house

uncle bumblefuck!

[limber knot]

🐋

[woven otter]

do not dumb here. no dumb area

[latent valve]

Oh no then duck cant be here

[woven otter]

u mean u

[woven otter]

that's dumb

[limber knot]

[limber knot]

hi KennyTV

good afternoon, sir

sir

good afternoon m'lady

m'lady

good afternoon kashike it is then 😂

something plain like that

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

good afternoon riley!

[worn ember]

Hello karen

[limber knot]

alright ded who invited you now

[worn ember]

i'm that guy that invites himself to parties

[safe mason]

[worn ember]

[agile sun]

Hello karen

[green turret]

Okay I just ordered some yellow tinted clip on glasses

I'm so sick of being blinded by those new super bright LED lights

Hopefully the glasses will help.

I don't understand why those bright lights are allowed. Maybe they just fuck more with my eyes than normal, but I literally can't see anything on the road when there is a car in oncoming traffic with them. Jesus take the damn wheel, if you have better vision.

[cosmic raft]

@green turret I hate the new lights in vehicles

I want to throw things at the people driving them

It blinds me

[green turret]

Yeah me too. I get so super angry at them xD

[limber knot]

you're from italy right?

welp

[stiff yarrow]

@cosmic raft I now have a car with bright LED lights lol

[cosmic raft]

[green turret]

@stiff yarrow you are satan!

[limber knot]

almost as good as people having their lights set up too high

[stiff yarrow]

My car tilts my headlights automatically apparently

It also automatically turns on and off brights

[limber knot]

oh boy

[green turret]

There's no difference between bright LED lights in normal mode and high beams on a car with normal, humane lights D:

[limber knot]

brights are tight

[fresh citrus]

anyone here have experience with protocol lib?

[limber knot]

paper-dev

and

.ask

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[fresh citrus]

bad experience?

[green turret]

@stiff yarrow people with the bright LED lights usually say "the light is so much better". Is that your experience as well? What makes it "better"? It's just bluer and brighter, isn't it? Is it worth the risk of oncoming traffic crashing into you because oncoming traffic is now blind? :P

I really hope those yellow tinted glasses will help me.

[fresh citrus]

i'm looking to add npc's or names to the tab list using protocol lib

how can I do this?

i don't want to override the players, I just simply want to add and remove

[stiff yarrow]

Well the car I drove before I could barely tell the headlights were on so maybe I’m not the one to ask.

[green turret]

Otherwise I'll just have to boycott night driving I guess

Ahahaha alright

"Better than nothing" basically? :P

[stiff yarrow]

Yeah it was better than nothing

[green turret]

@fresh citrus #paper-dev

[stiff yarrow]

My new car definitely lights up everything

[ember crag]

The problem is usually aftermarket led drop in replacements. People don't understand that you have to adjust your lamp assemblies because there's a harder cutoff line with the LEDs.

[golden gust]

nah m80

blinding people is much more fun

am gonna get one of those football light LED things

strap one onto a car

Coppers won't be able to come near you either, lest you blind them

#Winning

[ember crag]

That's why I have about 55,000 lumens at my disposal. Show people what REAL blinding is like.

If you pulse it just right, the eyes never adjust either.

[neat cloak]

Which are the must have packets in order to join a mcpe server?

[limber knot]

oO

[green turret]

I don't think it's drop ins here. Almost all the cars are Mercedes and Audi and BMW. I'm pretty sure they come fitted from the factory on them. Almost all taxis here are Mercedes, and they all blind me.

Almost all cars with those lights *

It's all the damn German cars! Germans are LED light freaks!

[limber knot]

the leds are the smallest problem with German cars, believe me

[green turret]

Yes the biggest problem is that blinkers are optional accessories that especially Audi drivers tend to opt out of.

[latent valve]

Those led car lamp are just fucking nasty. Those old bulb is much better led just white led+snow=god help me

[green turret]

Whiteout!

[golden gust]

I mean

I would hope that sane car manfs would put heaters in there to make up for that kinda stuff

[limber knot]

manfs

[golden gust]

dude

That word is too long for my little brain

[green turret]

Manurefactories

[limber knot]

manfreds

[worn ember]

Kenny my favorite upside down person

[limber knot]

☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)

[worn ember]

[cosmic raft]

wheee off to the mall

[golden gust]

lets go to the mall everybooodii

[real cave]

Fucking hell lol

Gotta order new drone blades and one leg

My dog caught it mid air, pushed the leg and the blade cut into the drone leg itself

Surprisingly it stayed in the air

[unreal quarry]

I would say "bet he doesn't do that again" but it's a dog.. he'll do it again lol

[worn ember]

dog: 1 drone: 0

[woven otter]

did the drone chip his tooth

[loud tiger]

Shell shockers #1sj0ky

join pls

[woven otter]

what

[loud tiger]

join pls

[golden gust]

no

[woven otter]

why

gtfo

with your ads

[loud tiger]

ok

wrong server

sorry

[merry talon]

[real cave]

@woven otter No. The lip.

Chin actually.

[woven otter]

what

oh

was confused

[golden gust]

head, shoulders knees and toes, knees and toes

[upper flicker]

Happy I wish the weekend wasn't nearly over

[shell vine]

[woven otter]

head, shoulders knees and toes, knees and toes
Turn up your nose, strike that pose
Hey Macarena

[cosmic raft]

that is not how the song goes you whore

[woven otter]

are you sure

well

sort of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hCQLEIWadk

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) rant. - length 3m 27s - 77,432 likes, 1,231 dislikes (98.4%) - 5,671,857 views - mahnrubob on 2010.10.14

[latent valve]

.kill duck

[limber knot]

unleashes the armies of Isengard on duck.

[golden gust]

mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4eueDYPTIg

[latent valve]

😂

[woven otter]

is that the song you thought of

[worn ember]

dats a dope beat

[woven otter]

which one

[worn ember]

Head, shoulders, knees and toes, knees and toes

[snow flax]

@latent valve Do you use modified config for NCP or just a default?

[latent valve]

modify to suit my server

[neon dagger]

Anyone know if anyone already made a plugin that replicates EnderIO conduits for Paper/Spigot?

I searched around didn't seem to find anything just don't want to go reinventing the wheel if someone already made something good for it.

[void void]

no

[worn ember]

not ender io but i know AE2 exists in plugin form

[void void]

[worn ember]

[void void]

@green turret re: bright LEDs. couldn't agree more. however, how do they look to you? super bright and streaky?

because that's how they look for me and i CAN'T see.

anyway turns out I probably have a mild astigmatism because according to other people they aren't that bad. How are your eyes?

[warped spear]

zgc is amazing for 1.15.2 on servers

[void void]

oh fuck me i think i have a history exam tomorrow

[warped spear]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=72d7ccb9dcc546bd81b76badcac0eb4b

so if your on linux give zgc a try

works quite nicely

[cosmic raft]

oh fuck me i think i have a history exam tomorrow
@void void good

[void void]

no

[cosmic raft]

ya

[warped spear]

its interesting prior to 1.14 low latency gc was worse than g1

now shenandoah and zgc destroy g1

[void void]

QUESTION if anyone is knowledgeable. Trying to build my server for co-location. What's the absolute best CPU for running multiple minecraft servers? Can't find the right answer. Would an AMD cpu work? intel?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

thx

[dapper nacelle]

passmark

[unreal quarry]

yes, dylan. passmark.

[shell vine]

so we all need AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700

[latent valve]

ye

[worn ember]

64core threadripper for mc omegalul

ez 64 servers

[celest coyote]

More like ez 32 servers

You want atleast 2 cores per server

[worn ember]

bruh

dont ruin my dreams

[shell vine]

for most hosts i think you mean 128 servers

[worn ember]

[ember crag]

What.

[void void]

https://twitter.com/ScienceChannel/status/1231404563057594369?s=20

Science Channel (@ScienceChannel)

Michael 'Mad Mike' Hughes tragically passed away today during an attempt to launch his homemade rocket. Our thoughts & prayers go out to his family & friends during this difficult time. It was always his dream to do this launch & Science Channel was there to chronicle his jou...

Retweets

184

Likes

516

Twitter

im sorry but

[golden gust]

Is it bad that I already called it?

[void void]

he said he was gonna fly up 5000 feet and reach space but he just crashed

[golden gust]

Like, I saw some thing like a year ago or something about him building a rocket to prove flat earth, and I immediatly rubbed my hands together like"this should be good"

[void void]

yup

i called it then too, he's been talking bout it since 2017

[pulsar wigeon]

is that the guy who basically used flat earthers to fund his rocket hobby?

[void void]

did it yesterday and got fukd

[worn ember]

well i'm sure he proved he was an idiot

[shell vine]

premium forks of open source projects can be sold on spigot rght

[austere ivy]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/premium-resource-guidelines.31667/

This might answer your question.

I think it depends on the license of said open source project.

Just because it's open source doesn't mean that it allows you to resell that source code.

[golden gust]

EssX got told no

Because of the contributor #'s or something odd

So, it's pretty much a case of "good luck"

Might have also been some other factors...

[austere ivy]

I forked a popular plugin and I'm not even posting it on Spigot because I'm afraid it'll be not allowed or something.

Also because I feel like that's rude to the original author 🤷‍♂️

Forks are kinda strange. Ethics and legality are two different things. You can be doing something completely legal whilst also being an absolute j*rk.

[golden gust]

if the project is still active, consider PRs

Beyond that 🤷‍♂️

[austere ivy]

It's rough though when your PR consists of rewriting the entire (albeit very small) plugin 👀

I asked the original author if he'd be okay with a fork and he said sure, but consider PRing, and I said I would. Ended up with me essentially rewriting and I'm not sure if it would be more rude to re-post his plugin on Spigot or to PR and be like "rewrite your entire plugin it's bad lol"

@shell vine

"You must be the original author and copyright holder of the work which you are submitting."

I think that means no forks.

[worn ember]

spoons good

forks bad

[static badge]

yeah forking is sorta a big "fuck you"

unless the project is just dead af

[shell vine]

what if its so many forks deep the original author isnt around

[austere ivy]

Such as Chairs plugin?

[static badge]

[worn ember]

then you make your own repo and claim it as your own

[static badge]

such as the standard cb chain

[austere ivy]

I'm forking ChairsReloaded, and I'm posting it on Spigot, and I don't feel bad about it. Wanna know why?

[shell vine]

but the fork im forking from the author is active and prob will be mad

[austere ivy]

ChairsReloaded is a fork.

Posted on Bukkit.

And that fork is yet another fork. Posted on Bukkit.

[golden gust]

then your probs fuckt

[austere ivy]

It's just a whole chain of forkers ,_,

[static badge]

or just rewrite the entire plugin

tbh how hard is it to make chairs

isn't it all armorstands

[austere ivy]

They use arrows.

[static badge]

make armorstand

set invisible

[worn ember]

no armor stand

[static badge]

mount

ez clap

[austere ivy]

idk man

[worn ember]

just mount entity

[static badge]

armor stand probably works better

[shell vine]

true i could just objuscate and claim i wrote it

[austere ivy]

https://github.com/Shevchik/Chairs

[static badge]

no idle noises etc

no dumb ai to deal with

[worn ember]

"sit on chairs" what a dumbass, there are no chairs in minecraft

[austere ivy]

They've got this thing: https://github.com/Shevchik/Chairs/blob/arrow/src/com/cnaude/chairs/listeners/NANLoginListener.java which I'm not even going to touch because I'm scared.

[static badge]

100% sure CB should handle that shit

[worn ember]

kinda funny how minecraft can have random things like honeyblocks and bees

[static badge]

but that is code from like 6 years ago

[worn ember]

but chairs and furniture? whats that?

[austere ivy]

Commited 6 years ago, what kind of thing happened that needed to make the author add this in 6 years ago?

[static badge]

only god may know

ancient code, ancient problems

[worn ember]

good thing spigot keeps compat amirite

kappa

[austere ivy]

Anywho I'm fine with reposting my fork of that chairs plugin because chain of forkers and all. I however will keep that fork of a very popular plugin off of Spigot. Original plugin is well and good, it still is popular and is getting updates, there's just a whole lot that I think could be improved, and I improved it, by rewriting it essentially. I think it'd just be very rude to the author if I PR'd it because it would be telling him that his code isn't good, (not that it isn't good, I'm just saying that's what he'd take it as, probably) and re-posting it on Spigot just feels awful.

[shell vine]

you can post free forks though right

might just have to do that

[austere ivy]

Like we were saying, ethics and all of that.

[worn ember]

yeah

could ask permission

[shell vine]

well its more of a fuck you to the person

[austere ivy]

Seems like the way to go to me.

You got some beef with them? ;p

[shell vine]

:>

[golden gust]

yea, no real stipuations on what you post afaik, outside of legal action, etc...

I do gotta wonder wtf you're up to though

[worn ember]

no hatecrimes in this discord

[golden gust]

listen her u fuq

[shell vine]

meh dont rly wanna discuss irrelevant drama

[austere ivy]

,_,

[worn ember]

[austere ivy]

What plugin is it?

inb4 "essentials"

[worn ember]

i think everyone went to bed already

[austere ivy]

What game's that?

[worn ember]

dota

i swear i'm not addicted

[austere ivy]

uh

[golden gust]

The trick to getting good at games is to wait until like 20 mins or so after school finishes

[worn ember]

or play at 3am

[austere ivy]

huh I wonder what that dip was

[latent valve]

@worn ember they fuck up dota so hard with their update like holly fuc

[austere ivy]

lil anomaly

[latent valve]

The map etc item

[granite salmon]

hello 3AM friend

[worn ember]

i mean, its not that bad imo

[austere ivy]

This pleases me.

[worn ember]

but yeah those exp towers fucked it

dont like those

[latent valve]

Have not been playing dota in like 3month and came back to that was like bruh

[austere ivy]

There's such a large amount of 1.14.4 though, and it's strange. All major plugins are 1.15.2 ezpz and it's just more stable.

[worn ember]

neutral items are fun tho

[shell vine]

what if i set all my servers to report theyre running 1.16 to bstats

[latent valve]

Sont understand dat either hahaa

[golden gust]

Oh god

[latent valve]

And runes bounty 🤦‍♀️

[worn ember]

do it

[austere ivy]

do it please

1.16.2

[worn ember]

i mean thats been in the game for years now i think

[austere ivy]

How can you actually trick bstats like that?

Tell you what if you do it, I'll do it too.

If we get a large amount of people to do it, we might have our very own appearance on bStats 👀

[shell vine]

just put a string in whatever the bstats send method that is different than the get version

[austere ivy]

how do I edit the send method? ,_,

[shell vine]

idk if theres any verification of that on bstats side tho

i feel like someone woulda done it

[austere ivy]

Can a plugin modify it?

[worn ember]

numbers might just be so insignificant tho

[austere ivy]

If a plugin can modify it I'll just get a bunch of people to put bStatsTricker.jar into their plugins folder.

Telling them to edit their server somehow or change a send method, they're not doing that.

[shell vine]

id assume so its all data sent by the server

[austere ivy]

But if it's something as easy as installing yet another plugin? Yeah I think they'd be fine.

[shell vine]

its kinda mean tho

[austere ivy]

it's not mean. how's it mean?

[shell vine]

cuz paper wants to see who is on what

[austere ivy]

maybe to all the server owners who think they're missing out on epic snapshot 1.16 O_O

[dusk drift]

Make a new plugin that is just bstats
https://github.com/Bastian/bStats-Metrics/blob/master/bstats-bukkit-lite/src/main/java/org/bstats/bukkit/MetricsLite.java#L231
Change this line to be 1.16

[austere ivy]

That'd be reporting the plugin version that it's on, right?

We need to change the version that paper itself sends to bstats

[dusk drift]

???

no lol

oh wait yea

I'm

[austere ivy]

lol

[golden gust]

papers itself is seperate

if you wanted to override that, you'd modify that metrics class

[austere ivy]

How?

[golden gust]

among other quirks

[austere ivy]

reflection? somehow?

mixins?

[golden gust]

It's a class

[austere ivy]

I'm not gonna tell people to install some other weird server jar

I need it to be a plugin, somehow

[golden gust]

hint

[shell vine]

not sure its a good idea to help him do this

[golden gust]

Good point, no hint

[dusk drift]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/blob/master/Spigot-Server-Patches/0005-Paper-Metrics.patch#L605

prob this?

[austere ivy]

thank you

pring paper right now

[golden gust]

But, like, with some level of brain power, it's pretty easy to figure out what is going on there

100% irrelevant to papers metrics

server stuff is its own seperate endpoint

[austere ivy]

I've never used bStats, how does bStats collect server version?

[golden gust]

Look at the field you pointed to...

This is simple java

[static badge]

what's simple java

[austere ivy]

Right, how do I edit that by a plugin? Reflection? Mixin? I don't know.

[golden gust]

it's a source file

[static badge]

what's a source file

[golden gust]

tf do you think is the easiest option here

[static badge]

and why is it different from a header file

[austere ivy]

edit the source?

[static badge]

can I put my code into a header file cat

[austere ivy]

Alright what am I supposed to do because I'm confused.

[static badge]

what are you even attempting to do

and why

[austere ivy]

Is it even partially possible to do this via plugin?

[golden gust]

yes

[austere ivy]

I'm trying to make a server report 1.16.2 to bStats with a plugin

[golden gust]

Don't be a cunt

[static badge]

retarded

[golden gust]

talking about it for research and amazement, cool

[austere ivy]

It's for science.

[golden gust]

actually fucking up a sites data is a real cunt move

[austere ivy]

Just research I'm not gonna do it.

[static badge]

I'd do it

[austere ivy]

I just actually want to know how I would edit another class file during runtime.

[shell vine]

fuck up all the data !

[slate seal]

garbage in garbage out

[static badge]

well you can't so that's your answer

[austere ivy]

,_,

[static badge]

it all needs to be done during class loading

or should be

[austere ivy]

Cat you said it's possible somehow. I wouldn't want to do it, and I'm not going to, I just want to know how to.

[shell vine]

just do version="1.16.2"

[static badge]

follow where getVersion is implemented

[void void]

are you talking about runtime patching...?

[shell vine]

i always feel like sunday night is when i have the most free time, but everyone else is busy or asleep

[static badge]

for the love of god if I hear mixins you will fucking die

[golden gust]

Well

[void void]

[golden gust]

mikro has a launcher for that

runs

[static badge]

[pulsar wigeon]

mixins

[void void]

[austere ivy]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/Bukkit.java

alright

[static badge]

follow it with an ide

so much faster

[austere ivy]

if the constructor is private, how exactly would an instance of this class be obtained?

[static badge]

why is that your solution

follow

the

impl

copy paste me the code where the version string is created

[shell vine]

i dont think you want to change the actual version

just in the bstats class wherever it is

[static badge]

we're talking about from a plugin

you have limited options outside of replacing the metrics entirely

[shell vine]

this is beyond science

[static badge]

this is beyond retarded

[shell vine]

i shouldnt have said anything

[static badge]

ur not dumr than cat tbh

[shell vine]

👀

[austere ivy]

alright

this is becoming painful

I need to get this code in my IDE how do I do that

[static badge]

use an ide

open a project that either has the src or has a dependency on the server jar

[shell vine]

what an IDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33BRYio6rcw

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Besiege V1.0 Creations Are Insane! - The Best New Besiege Creations - length 23m 35s - 2,266 likes, 26 dislikes (98.9%) - 37,889 views - Drae on 2020.02.23

[shell vine]

go 30 seconds in

its the ender dragon

[static badge]

[austere ivy]

uhh

ah I need buildtools AGAIN

how do I

gash darn

[shell vine]

u rly should not be spending time on trying to do this

[austere ivy]

how do I get craftbukkit into my local maven repo again?

I did it once then I cleared my local maven repo

shouldn't BuildTools automatically add it in?

[void void]

except for the fact that BT no longer builds CB by default

[static badge]

just use spigot src

[cosmic raft]

it does build it @void void

it just doesn't copy the JAR to the currentdir

[static badge]

no it doesn't

md69 also changed that