general

[green turret]

I mean not only, but it's fucking amazing when you have poop stuck on the hairs.

[merry talon]

lol

[heady spear]

there are ones that are meant to be flushed, idk how they work tho

[merry talon]

that can't happen if there are no hairs

[heady spear]

he said he liked wet wipes, not children

wiping with children sounds like a hassle tbh

[merry talon]

flushable wipes is actually just marketing

they still cannot be flushed

[vivid oyster]

Reached a problem, not sure a way around this because if I recall correctly you can no longer identify inventories by name in 1.14+

[green turret]

I thought about butt waxing, but I am afraid of the pain and people always look at me weird when I bring it up

[vestal jasper]

They're flushable but you'll fuck ur pipes if you do

[heady spear]

it's not that painful

or so I've heard, ahem

[vestal jasper]

Mfw

[green turret]

Can you go first

[merry talon]

seems like it would be satisfying

[vestal jasper]

City are you cheating on me

[limber knot]

literal first world problem

[merry talon]

the only thing is

you have to have someone else mess around down there

[heady spear]

just don't shave your ass

big mistake

[woven otter]

tell me more city

[green turret]

It's just sometimes I wipe and I wipe and I wipe, and there's still poop. Then blood.

[heady spear]

first of all, it's fucking hard. Second of all, it's super itchy.

[merry talon]

It's like a marker

[heady spear]

Like super bad idea

[merry talon]

tbh future hair removal tech is something I'm excited about

[green turret]

But the wet wipes make it so much cleaner and quicker! I usually only use one plus some tp.

[upper flicker]

@vivid oyster correct, you need an InventoryView now

[heady spear]

eat more fiber my dude

[green turret]

But constipation then

[upper flicker]

may be less ... ehm... noise... in #paper-dev

[heady spear]

don't eat too much tho or you'll poop marbles 😛

[merry talon]

it's so expensive too, have to keep buying the cables

[heady spear]

Too little and it's awful, too much and it's awful. It's super hard to get right x)

[green turret]

Twice now I have had to reach up there, paper on finger, to peel away at the pebbles to thin it out enough that it comes out.

[heady spear]

hot

[limber knot]

Didnt need to know that garbagemule

[merry talon]

[vivid oyster]

@upper flicker I take it I need to remove that block of code then?

[green turret]

I think it's fascinating, but people don't want to hear about it

[vivid oyster]

Since it is uselss now

[limber knot]

dumcord is still a mistake

[heady spear]

I've IBS so it doesn't really matter what I do

[merry talon]

you were a mistake robo

[heady spear]

when I first went vegan I averaged 60g of fiber per day 😛

[limber knot]

If you have Vertanzil telling you you're too far you know you've gone too far

[heady spear]

why is erp fine but poop isn't

everyone poops but not everyone is a complete degenerate

[green turret]

Also pooping is a big time sink. It's a good place to start optimizing against time waste.

[merry talon]

erp and poop don't have to be separate topics

[green turret]

Some people can poop in 5 minutes. It never takes me less than 15. My bowels move so slowly.

[heady spear]

I'm in an out in 1 minute

[merry talon]

^

[green turret]

I fucking envy that

[heady spear]

at least 3 times a day

[green turret]

Ahhh must be so nice

[merry talon]

I'm in there once a day lol

[heady spear]

not really :p I'm in pain most of the time

[green turret]

I sometimes don't go more than twice a week!

[merry talon]

when I was younger I had babysitters concerned at how I would never go to the bathroom

[heady spear]

as soon as I eat I turn into a balloon lol

[green turret]

Oof

[heady spear]

unless I micromanage what I eat. But yeah, I heard that it's normal to poop 3 times a week to 3 times a day

Also I think it's mandated by laws that dads have to spend at least 30 minutes on the toilet when pooping. It's a power move.

if I ever become a father I'll need to work on that

[green turret]

Just install a TV

[merry talon]

just bring your phone in lol

[void void]

boii

[green turret]

I always do. Before smartphones I had a stack of Beetle Bailey comics.

[heady spear]

I mean I guess that's what reddit is for

[void void]

just use your phone on the toilet

and then you will get those 30 minutes with ease

[heady spear]

o I remember Beetle Bailey

dunno what it's called in Swedish tho

[torn otter]

hello can i ask somthing please

[unreal quarry]

yes. thank you for asking. next please!

[torn otter]

hello, can i ask 2 more questions please

[unreal quarry]

.ask

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

[torn otter]

.ask What is the difference between Paper spigot and Travertine spigot 😄

[limber knot]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

(DiscordBot) Error: API returned 401

[void void]

what the fug

[heady spear]

lmao

[torn otter]

Niiiceeee

[void void]

travertine is a fork of waterfall which is a fork of bungeecord

[torn otter]

so i should use the paper?

[heady spear]

paper is a fork of spigot which is a fork of craftbukkit

[void void]

^

[heady spear]

that's a horrible explanation tbf

[torn otter]

so paper is better to use than travertine

[heady spear]

paper = server software
travertine = proxy software

[void void]

travertine is not a game server, it's a proxy

[merry talon]

they are different categories of software

[torn otter]

OHOOOH

i get youu

[void void]

it routes players between multiple game servers

[torn otter]

thanks guys

i seen the 1.7.10 and was thinking about that

thanks guys 😄

[heady spear]

you're welcome. we're always really unhappy to help

[torn otter]

which paper version is 1.8.8 🙂

[unreal quarry]

1.8.8 is unsupported

[torn otter]

oh

i want people to join from lower versions

[limber knot]

s/to help/

Correction, <DiscordBot> <10C​ït​ÿw​éé​bs​tr​ét​> you're welcome. we're always really unhappy ****

s/you're welcome. /

[heady spear]

https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.8.8/latest/download

[limber knot]

Correction, <DiscordBot> <10C​ït​ÿw​éé​bs​tr​ét​> ****we're always really unhappy

[torn otter]

ta

[merry talon]

wow the formatting gets mangled there

[torn otter]

is that patched too then i guess?

[heady spear]

that should be good to go, if you dare ask for support if anything goes wrong then we'll throw you into an active volcano

you have been warned

[torn otter]

well whats the most supported paper version then?

mostly for plugins

[merry talon]

latest

[torn otter]

all plugins work on latest?

[merry talon]

I mean

any that matter

you won't get BigBrother to run

[torn otter]

D:

really

tf

i actually wanyted it

[merry talon]

ask city to update it for you

[torn otter]

ok

guess im using the 1.8.8

oh i fucked it

oh

so i cant use 4gb

oof

[heady spear]

Sweepy I'll bite u

[torn otter]

ew

kinky

[unreal quarry]

we'd love to help, ghost. but 1.8 is unsupported. that means you're on your own with everything ^_^

[torn otter]

oh

oh

i see how it is

wow

i see that

[heady spear]

I mean you can still ask for suggestions and whatnot

we'll laugh at you

but we might also help

[torn otter]

i suggest you resupport it

😉

[limber knot]

how about no

[torn otter]

whats the lowest you support then?

[unreal quarry]

1.15.2

[torn otter]

o.O

when did minecraft get to 1.15.2

i remember 1.12.2

o.O

[ember crag]

when you buy it, you'll know when the updates are out

[torn otter]

i already have it lmao

havent played it for ages

[heady spear]

tbf updating all the time is a pain in the ass

[torn otter]

ok

ima check the supported mods

[heady spear]

we're on 1.14.4 because cba updating all the nms

[torn otter]

plugins

oh thats a shout, 14.4

most plugins support that yea?

and we still use Curse or Bukkit,org

[ember crag]

or spigot

[torn otter]

ah ok

[ember crag]

ayy lmao

[torn otter]

if that wasnt aloud im sorry

i used to have a server just cant remember shit

[ember crag]

it gets worse

have server
never play

[torn otter]

well it got alright back in the day

like im talking 12 2

but we was using 1.8.8 and doing the plugin to allow higher to join too

forgot its name'

[limber knot]

oh man I just found a 30kg weighed vest on amazon and I am so temped to buy it just for the anime meme

make a yt training montage with it on

shame it costs 180 euros in total lol

^-^: link?

[latent valve]

180eur jeeeez

[limber knot]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07C9YXZQC/ref=pd_sim_200_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07C9YXZQC&pd_rd_r=9ea20dae-3a7a-4226-937f-e337061a0338&pd_rd_w=m0xuT&pd_rd_wg=Cpnnv&pf_rd_p=ce989a94-1218-4e00-bce3-c2af8895305e&pf_rd_r=YFH2GCVBQPBWP0XBD7KF&refRID=YFH2GCVBQPBWP0XBD7KF&th=1

30kg

it's no joke

[unreal quarry]

.wa 30kg to pounds

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Results: 66.14 lb (pounds), 66 pounds 2.219 ounces - https://is.gd/M56wA5

why would you want to wear that though :P

tbf it's like 90 euros plus 90 euros in shipping

[latent valve]

Billy kg!!!!!!

[limber knot]

because it's key component of any anime training montage

no i mean

[unreal quarry]

i'm dum american. i dont understand metric 😛

[limber knot]

why would someone want it in general

I'd basically run every day with it then on the last day of the montage take it off and start flying

[latent valve]

Ahhhh u also use mo/dd/yy? 🤔

[limber knot]

that's how dbz did it

[merry talon]

the only acceptable date format is ISO 8601

[upper flicker]

^

[latent valve]

Do it like in hunter x hunter everything is 5kg+

[limber knot]

as for real benefits, idk I assume it sort of helps with building leg muscle if you use it in training but to be real there's far, far more efficient and cheaper ways of doing that

[unreal quarry]

weighted things during practice really work. in baseball we put weights on our bats and swing them around for a bit before actually going to bat. makes the bat feel as light as a feather when the weights come off ^_^

[limber knot]

work uses dd/mm/yyyy because we're sane :P

[lost token]

why are there webhooks talking in chat lol?

[limber knot]

and then data that comes to us is in all kinda of formats... annoying

sure billy but you could also just hit the gym, do some basic-ass exercises and it'll still feel lighter over time

what I'd really love to have is a decent pullup bar

we get: mm/dd/yyyy, dd/mm/yyyy, yyyy-dd-mm, yyyy-mm-dd

nothing is consistent

I have one of those doorframe ones but it's literally destroying the wall and it's super low for me, even while bending my knees I nearly touch the floor at full extension

[unreal quarry]

no, i mean in the moment.. doesnt matter how much muscle you have.. it still feels lighter once the weights come off

lmao

[limber knot]

well yeah but that's basically useless

[unreal quarry]

nothing to do with "you're weak. hit the gym"

well, if thats not why you're buying the vest then it's pointless for you

[limber knot]

I'm not buying it

I'm not wasting 180 that way

I could buy actual gym equipment with that money

instead of an anime meme

perfect

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01AJ12MCS

[unreal quarry]

well, whats your goal? cause the vest has benefits a gym cant give you.

long term = gym. short term temporary = vest

[limber knot]

kash buy me that at full weight and ship it to me and I promise to do a training montage of me running 5k daily with that thing on

[upper flicker]

you need a similar looking vest to run through most american cities after dark

[limber knot]

imagine the glorious montage

[unreal quarry]

they also make ankle weights for the same reason. go for a quick jog before a race wearing the ankle weights. your legs feel light as a feather when you go to actually race without the weights

its like magic 😉

[upper flicker]

we used to just grab a plate and use that

[limber knot]

it's also entirely useless

[upper flicker]

wasnt aware there were vests

tbh vest seems a lot less limiting

but then you cant brag to the dumb gym bros either

give and take

[unreal quarry]

if i had the money i would have gotten a vest back in high school. i would have worn it around all day that way at band the drums would feel as light as a feather

[limber knot]

or you could just hit the gym like a normal person

[unreal quarry]

you dont get it.. its a different benefit from the gym

smfh

[limber knot]

you don't get it if you're stronger things feel lighter

it's the same thing except it's not a trick

also way cheaper

[unreal quarry]

just trying to help you out. but go ahead and believe what you wanna believe, man ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

you're basically endorsing cocaine as a cure for getting sleepy instead of just plain sleeping

[unreal quarry]

uh.. no

[upper flicker]

that comparison is pretty uh

pretty terrible

[limber knot]

you're hounding me so hard about my comparison that I feel like I've just been sent to a chinese reeducation camp

[upper flicker]

christ youre just always cancer

cant ever be "nah I disagree"

[limber knot]

well I do strive to be consistent

why say I disagree, it's not entertaining in the least

[unreal quarry]

this is why i dont talk to people irl. i would have punched you by now

[limber knot]

I don't shitpost irl

[green turret]

We had literal shit talk earlier.

[torn otter]

youre giving suggestions ye

what server host

-)

[green turret]

We can do it again. Once I pooped orange.

[torn otter]

o.O

dats not gopod

[green turret]

Yeah it was pretty weird.

[upper flicker]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5nsiFjdgylfK3csZ5T

[torn otter]

STRANGER THINGSSSSS

[limber knot]

if you can't handle people being facetious online then you might as well move to china, I heard people have a lot riding on being very serious what with the social credit system and all

[torn otter]

hopper isnt dead

[limber knot]

I'm pretty sure I'd have reached the lowest possible social credit score by now

[torn otter]

ok so what server hosting should i use

@heady spear

[heady spear]

Y u ping me

Do I look like Google to you?

[torn otter]

because youre google>

?

look if i go ;google What server host should i use for minecraft

;google What server host should i use for minecraft

[heady spear]

I’m going to sleep because I want to sleep so bye now while I go sleep

[mossy vessel]

@heady spear What should I cook tomorrow ?

[torn otter]

this bot called Cïtÿwéébstrét replys

[heady spear]

O nvm babe joined the chat

Daddy idk what you should cook. I’m making tacos tho, always a solid choice

[mossy vessel]

Nice

But I need to cook and have to bake a cake

[heady spear]

Baking is fun tbh

[torn otter]

ahh mcprohosting

[heady spear]

Shhh we’re having an intimate conversation here

[torn otter]

yeye ok

so $40 for 6gb is good ye?

Per month

[heady spear]

Lol no

[torn otter]

RECOMMEND THEN

sorry

[heady spear]

I recommend not going for that

[torn otter]

im sorry for shouting

[mossy vessel]

My cooking skills aren't very good, but I can make you a healthy cake

[torn otter]

what is your host?

[mossy vessel]

localhost

[torn otter]

you know

[heady spear]

I don’t have a sever but if I had I wouldn’t tell you because secrets

[torn otter]

i have 4g router and the IP changes every 12hrs

[heady spear]

I don’t mind healthy cakes

That said, I had a nasty ass raw cake when I volunteered at pride

It was awful

[torn otter]

in 184 days, we used 1.87 tb on 2 computers

[mossy vessel]

Will send you a sexy pic tmrw <3

[heady spear]

I hope u do

[heady spear]

We should really order more servers if we’re planning on launching soon because setting them up is a pain in the ass

[torn otter]

apex hosting a good place?

[heady spear]

And ovh was super slow the last time around

[unreal quarry]

184 days, ghost?

[torn otter]

ye

[unreal quarry]

pfft. we hit 1tb+ on my home just about every month

[torn otter]

ye but we have 2 pcs on

no phones

we have broadband for that

[heady spear]

I don’t use the internet because I don’t want Russia to spy on us

[torn otter]

but that is 8mbps down and 0.9 up

so i just use 4g router

[heady spear]

I only get 80 down here

[unreal quarry]

i only get 350 down

[torn otter]

billy is apex hosting a good place to host?>

[heady spear]

It’s free tho so I shouldn’t complain

[unreal quarry]

probably not, ghost

[heady spear]

Included in rent :]] I don’t pay for electricity either which is neat

[torn otter]

whats a good place then

[unreal quarry]

ovh is proven to be good

[torn otter]

youre a kid lmao i guess

[unreal quarry]

just dont get their vps. get a dedi

[heady spear]

Well, I’m not. But your guess is as good as any 🙂

[torn otter]

tf

[heady spear]

Electricity and fiber was included in the rent but the rent is super high in exchange so I don’t really save any money

[torn otter]

50 quid PM

FUCKING HELLL

[heady spear]

If you’re ready to pay $40 for awful performance then I wouldn’t consider OVH very expensive

[torn otter]

ignore the free

i was trina find that scamming one

[heady spear]

You might have some luck with soyoustart

The game servers are great tho, we use them :p

[torn otter]

how much it cost

[heady spear]

I’ve no idea

[torn otter]

what games

[heady spear]

I’ve no idea

[torn otter]

lol

[unreal quarry]

this is mine, ghost.

[torn otter]

meloncube?

[heady spear]

I’m asleep now goodnight

[unreal quarry]

i would recommend it, but they dont sell it anymore

[torn otter]

WHAT DO YOU HOST

JESUS

[unreal quarry]

a mc server for 2 people

[torn otter]

that you need 64gb ram

why

why tf

[serene bolt]

Billys server has like 7000 players online, he needs all of that power

[torn otter]

still too much

[heady spear]

Lol we use 64 with zero players

[torn otter]

JUST RECOMEND A GOOD CHEAP HOSTING LMAOOO

pleadserseesesessesees

[unreal quarry]

i cant, in good faith, recommend a cheap host

you get what you pay for

[heady spear]

There’s no such thing

There are cheap hosts and there are good hosts

[torn otter]

for a small server

[serene bolt]

SoYouStart is going to be as cheap as I'd recommend for a dedicated server for MC hosting

[torn otter]

i wont have like 4000 poeple

ill have like 15

[unreal quarry]

ovh is actually very inexpensive. this same box on american soil would cost me $600/mo

[serene bolt]

yup

[unreal quarry]

but since its canada its only $120

[heady spear]

Same^ hosting in Sweden is super expensive

[torn otter]

and that only 1 server or can you host multiple off it

[unreal quarry]

you could do multiple if you want

i only do 1

[serene bolt]

it's a dedicated server, you can host as many as you want within reason

[unreal quarry]

^

[heady spear]

If we spent our money on a Swedish dc then we’d end up with a potato hooked up to an outlet

[torn otter]

wait, youre basically just paying for your own server, not mc. just a server you can do anything with, just like its in your home or a business

[unreal quarry]

yes

[torn otter]

ohhhhh

[serene bolt]

its a general purpose dedicated server, which can be used for anything

[torn otter]

i get it noww

[heady spear]

Better yet, get someone else to pay for it

Then get them to pay you to use it

I love being a minecraft capitalist

[unreal quarry]

i host mc, a website, and a jenkins server on my box

[torn otter]

jenkins?

isnt that like reddit

a little

[unreal quarry]

a bot that builds my code and archives the builds for anyone to download

[heady spear]

Yup

[torn otter]

github **

[heady spear]

No more like reddit except for not at all

[torn otter]

lol

thats mad, i dunno what ild use it for tho

its cheaper to buy yourself a little server in your house

[merry talon]

its like neither of those

[torn otter]

expense high to start but then you have on monthly payments

[heady spear]

I have a lecture like tomorrow morning but it’s super late wtf am I even doing on here

[cosmic raft]

I mean, it's kinda close to github if you just target github actions

[torn otter]

ok gn

[cosmic raft]

but even then, only barely

[heady spear]

We spend $500 a month to host our dev setup

[unreal quarry]

dont home host. the cost of a dedicated server is mostly in the network. you're not really paying for the box, thats cheap. you're paying for the network and ddos protection, etc

[torn otter]

true

[heady spear]

I can’t even imagine the server costs when we launch lol, I’m so happy I don’t pay for this

[torn otter]

what you launching

[heady spear]

Server

[torn otter]

mc

[heady spear]

Ew only kids play block games

But yes

[torn otter]

using OVH

[heady spear]

Wait so I caught my nephew playing Roblox this weekend

what the hell do I do with that

[torn otter]

murder

o.O

[heady spear]

I decided not to water board him but it was a close call

[torn otter]

lmao

[unreal quarry]

if you want an intro into the dedicated scene you could look into SoYouStart. they have decent hardware and are on the OVH network and include the same ddos protection for free. they're just not that great for mc anymore

still much better than a shared/vps host

[cosmic raft]

i dunno, SYS has some good stuff for a basic single server

[heady spear]

I’m single and I have a server

Hit me up I want a minecraft girlfriend

[cosmic raft]

sorry i'm gay

[torn otter]

ill just use works server

that would work, yes

?

[heady spear]

Perfect kash when do u start

[merry talon]

you can get 2 ryzen 9 3900x cores w/ magic transit for $33 now at frantech

🦀 bare metal is dead 🦀

[cosmic raft]

https://tenor.com/view/my-way-gif-5740187

yes, me loves fran @merry talon

[merry talon]

:D

10g nodes now too

[charred viper]

paper 1.16 when

[serene bolt]

minecraft 1.16 when

[unreal quarry]

kicked

[pulsar hearth]

does anyone know if theres a fix for eating-while-aiming-at-ground issue?

[upper flicker]

there was a plugin long ago that basically restricted every sane action by default and you had to give them all back with perms

I assume its not that, given that ModifyWorld is almost certainly abandoned and dead

but I would sure recommend testing without plugins

[pulsar hearth]

yea modifyworld is abandoned, since the latest version released (something like 19.7) was in 2013

and no longer works

[merry talon]

it was a pex thing

[upper flicker]

yeah it the concept just reminded me of that plugin, Id be shocked if youre running it

[pulsar hearth]

funny story: i AM running pex

and i kinda did give them modifyworld.* even tho i dont have it

what? luckperms is the norm now?

[serene bolt]

yes, but PEX still does work fine if you insist on using that. I'd recommend LP though

[upper flicker]

the pex author is working on a pex 2

[pulsar hearth]

yea see

[upper flicker]

but afaik he doesnt recommend you continue running pex itself atm

its got some problems

[pulsar hearth]

if luckperms was so good, why isnt there luckperms 2

im very aware

[unreal quarry]

wat

[upper flicker]

Billy

[pulsar hearth]

the subject was me not being able to eat while looking at the ground, but this works too

id just rather have the eating thing sorted before changing perms plugin

[unreal quarry]

if luckperms was so good, why isnt there luckperms 2
i wat'd this.. lol

[upper flicker]

he's meming

[pulsar hearth]

while looking at the ground yes

stuck in the animation for all eternity

latest for 1.13.2

[unreal quarry]

What eating bug?

[static badge]

1.13.2 is

[void void]

i dont like calculus

[upper flicker]

read that as cactus 🌵

[static badge]

cactus 101

[void void]

on the upside i finally figured out what the FUCK that question wanted

and it's because am retarded but we all knew that so

[pulsar hearth]

its a compatibility issue, server is 1.13.2 and issue happens on versions above

[vestal jasper]

A server

[unreal quarry]

reproduce on 1.15.2 and we can talk, pegla 😉

[pulsar hearth]

ill skip that and look for a way to remove crafting recipes

[void void]

lol

[unreal quarry]

smfh

glhf

[void void]

your version is unsupported

so? fix it

"no, show us the bug happening in latest"

no. ill do this myself.

[static badge]

today is 420

the time is 420

wait shit 220

no

[upper flicker]

leaf everybody

[static badge]

no u

[vestal jasper]

That's what u get for hating tacos

[static badge]

am get high iq for hating tacos

[void void]

what is a good mantained plugin that lets people claim/protect land similar to factions?

[static badge]

look at u brainlet eating tacos smh

[unreal quarry]

@void void just use factions if you want "similar to factions" 😉

[void void]

I'd rather use a maintained plugin

[vestal jasper]

@static badge something something JLS

[void void]

Primary functionality I need is claiming land to prevent griefing

[merry talon]

griefprevention

[static badge]

oi mods he's pinging me

[vestal jasper]

@static badge

[void void]

Thanks Sweepy

[static badge]

HALP

[vestal jasper]

Leaf ur exempt from the no ping rule

[unreal quarry]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/factionsuuid.1035/ its still maintained

[vestal jasper]

@static badge

[unreal quarry]

@void void ^

[queen rapids]

@static badge

[static badge]

I'M BEING REPRESSED

[vestal jasper]

Nerd

[static badge]

ur dum

[vestal jasper]

@static badge ok

[static badge]

mods halp 😦

[vestal jasper]

Ok I'm done pinging gotta get back to work

[void void]

breh?? https://f.jacob.engineer/b5QEGi.png

i tried 54, 54.00, 55, 55.00, 54.30

what the fuck does it want

[static badge]

56.32

use a really small interval

[latent valve]

it said estimate soooo any number should be correct

[void void]

56? o.O

[static badge]

err whoops did the derivative wrong

yeah use a smaller interval

[latent valve]

56 ^^

[static badge]

54.28 is the correct answer

[void void]

the fuck :(

[static badge]

use a smaller interval

[void void]

where are those fuckers getting 58 tho

it was 54.28

58*

56****

jesus

[static badge]

[void void]

alright let me try with three 0s

[static badge]

4

[void void]

i got it right thx leaf but i wan to understand

[latent valve]

z make a math-problem channel

[void void]

ah ok

52.27998

[static badge]

you incorrectly assumed that it would have changed +0.02 for the real result

[void void]

54*

[static badge]

the smaller the interval really the smaller the difference gets

[void void]

true

[static badge]

it only went up 0.02 when u changed from 1.01 to 1.001, you can imagine the change is going to be even smaller going from 1.001 to 1

[void void]

Hmm yea

Aight that makes sense

thx babe

[potent warren]

Heyo 👋

[static badge]

I might fuck ur mom but that doesn't make me ur babe

[void void]

[static badge]

[potent warren]

@static badge shut up dad... I'm tired of having more than 10 moms already

[static badge]

what did I bring upon this cursed land

[potent warren]

Me...

and 10 more brothers

12 sisters..

[static badge]

wtf

[potent warren]

Yes dad... stop having sex with every women you SEE

[void void]

this got weird, fast

[potent warren]

It all started with

I might fuck ur mom but that doesn't make me ur babe

[tame pendant]

wait isnt this like calc 1?

[void void]

yes

[tame pendant]

You've helped me code in the past so well id assumed u were like calc4 level

[void void]

being able to code != being able to math

[potent warren]

Hey Jimmy, it's all a lie /s

[tame pendant]

yeah... i see that now

[void void]

although yes im working on math path, i have to go up to calc 4

[tame pendant]

im taking calc 4 rn diffeq and it sucks

[void void]

gl

[tame pendant]

thanks, gl on ur calc 1

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/ariana-grande-thank-unext-thank-you-hair-legally-blonde-gif-13007666

[queen rapids]

would anyone like a buycraft jar?? i got 15 of em

[void void]

[upper flicker]

going through random boxes in my closet

why didnt I throw any of these boxes out

noctua boxes, cisco boxes, odroid box, some pi boxes

tf there's a box for a phone case

throw out your garbage, save your closets

[void void]

yea i have a bunch of random tech boxes in my closet too

and bookshelf

[upper flicker]

yeah mine's gotten so bad I was having trouble walking into the closet

so it was probably time

[pulsar wigeon]

my closet has two opposing sliding doors. my shirts hang behind one of the doors. the other door....we don't talk about that one

[void void]

i got this right but can someone explain to a LITERAL RETARD, how the velocity switches from +10 to -13 in .9 seconds? https://f.jacob.engineer/74nhJO.png

is it like...the direction changed?

or something...

smh

oh back and forth, err. ok. so negative must mean moving one dir, positive another

ok nvm

[static badge]

the acceleration is gonna be at most 5*pi^2 which is pretty big

err oh right calc 1

[void void]

ya sry im a noob

am trying tho

[static badge]

the pi * t in the sin/cos function is going to make the period of that function small

for example at t = 0 and 1 the sign value will be the same

0 actually

nevermind I can't explain this

[void void]

ooo i get it, the periodicity of the trig functions makes it switcheroo pos/neg

[static badge]

and the pi makes that period small

the coefficients just affect the amplitude

[peak dirge]

For some cheap entertainment, I asked Siri "why does MongoDB suck?" She interpreted it as "why does Minecraft suck"

TBH I agree: MongoDB sucks and so does Minecraft

Oh, I see someone needed calculus help. I've done three calculus courses, even touching into the types of calculus you do in physics. (I'm lucky I survived that class with an A. I have a penchant for punishment.)

[acoustic pilot]

no u suc

mongo is webscale

[void void]

Any1 wanna see wat i made for dinner

[upper flicker]

My system was just sitting there, then suddenly a bunch of gpg-agent and journald errors flood the screen and it locks up.

Reboot, SSD is missing from boot entries

Reboot again, it’s back and boots fine

[void void]

#food

o.o

das weird z

[upper flicker]

yeeeee gonna backup my files here

then run run the ext4 repair over it

annnnnd hope that smart looks okay too I guess

[void void]

GL

[upper flicker]

might be new ssd time

[void void]

lets hope not Z, fingers crossed it is 👌

[upper flicker]

It looks fine strangely enough

ran a backup to the nas and ext4 fsck

Guess we’ll see what happens as the eek goes on

[topaz ibex]

theres a server still on 1.15 I'm trying to join. is there a way to get 1.15 still

[void void]

you mean the server or the client

[upper flicker]

trying to join

^^?

[void void]

im guessing client

[topaz ibex]

well, their server is on 1.15 currently

so i want a 1.15 client

[void void]

in client go to installations -> new -> release 1.15 -> create

[upper flicker]

The Minecraft client will let you pick whatever version you want

[void void]

then go back, choose it, play

[topaz ibex]

so I don't need to have paper downloaded for it?

[void void]

no

[upper flicker]

What does paper have to do with the client?

[void void]

i think this is just a really confused player

[topaz ibex]

nothing, sorry for the stupid question

If i'

[void void]

you dont need to worry about what the server is running at all beyond the version

just set up your client and you're good

@topaz ibex https://i.imgur.com/bKFnIbD.mp4

[topaz ibex]

yeah, i found it

thanks

[rancid timber]

What exactly mojang do from 1.12 to 1.13?
Why u guys says the performance is bad when thing comes to 1.13

[vestal jasper]

Everything

They're rewriting internals like chunk io

[rancid timber]

to multi therad? Isn't that a performance boost?

[queen rapids]

was it 1.13? i was running a server 75 players no lag on 1.13. updated to 1.14 = 35 players 10tps

same with 1.15

[rancid timber]

And i heard that from 1.14 to 1.15 there's another chunk gen algo change

[vestal jasper]

1.13 is bad but not nearly as bad as 14

[rancid timber]

changing chunk io can make so much difference?

[celest coyote]

chunk loading system is not just chunk io

[shell vine]

ur a chunk

[golden gust]

just throwing threads at stuff doesn't fix performance

Saying that, 1.13 wasn't chunk stuff exactly, they did some refactoring and spigot dropped the async IO patch from CB, 1.13 was more mojangs collision system

Urgh, I need to get some ID

[rancid timber]

im a chunk

[golden gust]

And, so, basically, I've gotta get an identity card, which is not 100% accepted across the board

but, I gotta get that card to be able to have ID to get a provisional drivers license, which is accepted more, not 100% still, but much better

[pulsar wigeon]

or just dont get id, and stop existing as a person

what kind of cat needs id anyway

[golden gust]

👌

[pulsar wigeon]

your should just use your EU passprt tbh Kappa

[golden gust]

mfw

[void void]

oh yeah how's that feel cat

When did you wake up?

[hard kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xSxXiHwMrg&utm_source=HPP&utm_medium=Owned&utm_campaign=Loretta

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Loretta | Google Super Bowl Commercial 2020 - length 1m 31s - 26,785 likes, 1,415 dislikes (95.0%) - 10,160,933 views - Google on 2020.01.28

[golden gust]

Actually, I might as well just throw down the extra £10 or so and go for a full passport :L

was worried as last time I tried, getting somebody to actually sign it was a ballache and it took too long, so they basically rip'd the application

[void void]

yay

[fringe hemlock]

I big noob tryna learn to code plugin on intellij

[void void]

k

[fringe hemlock]

someone link me good ways to learn please

[shell vine]

[void void]

Learn Java first. Stop trying to make plugins when you don't know Java.

It depends what type of learner you are.

Do you like reading, watching, what

[shell vine]

take java classes in school

[void void]

That's an option

(but he's probably a kid so)

(not ;))

[vestal jasper]

There's also a 50/50 chance your java teacher is straight up retarded and doesn't know a thing about java. See: city's instructor.

If you go with bukkit or forge java tutorials on youtube that increases from a 50% chance to a 95% chance

[shell vine]

city knows how to code?

[void void]

this is a really good open source resource https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming

its a full java textbook

[proud lance]

City knows how to code, but doesn't know a lot about milk

[fringe hemlock]

Thanks ill read about it ik little knowledge about java script but ik its a different lang in a way

[void void]

not in a way

it is completely different

not in any way related despite the name

[fringe hemlock]

some variables are similar

[vestal jasper]

Statically hard typed language vs Dynamic weak typed language

it's easier to name differences between the two than to name similarities

[void void]

@fringe hemlock programming languages in general are similar. that doesn't make them not different languages.

lmao

[fringe hemlock]

yeah ik same with fucking how english steals latin etc

[void void]

learn one fluently, you can use most of them

[shell vine]

id say my level of knowledge is up to where i get concurrency, but not really reflection

[void void]

reflection is fun

[orchid pelican]

I tend to stay away from reflection

[limber knot]

Reflection is way easier than concurrency, lol

[void void]

^

[vestal jasper]

^

[limber knot]

Concurrency is the hardest thing about programming

[shell vine]

well, just havent used it ig

so dont know about it 😛

that and networking like modifying bungee wouldnt know that

packets and stuff

[void void]

thats just a matter of understanding the mc protocol, not an issue with not understanding networking tbh

networking itself is fairly straightforward

[limber knot]

That was surprisingly easy for me to get into, after I had a simple setup in netty

[shell vine]

yea makes sense

[limber knot]

The last really thing that I need more experience with is stuff like bytebuddy/asm

And well, can never have enough experience with concurrency

[void void]

That just reminded me of that dumbfuck we dealt with a few months ago. Forgot his name. But I remember the github. SkorloreGaming

Dude who was like 16 and married to a 14 year old with 2 kids or something

[woven otter]

reflection is not even that hard. It's just a small jump when you start to understand it.

Oh yeah

[void void]

And he was physically patching the server jar

[woven otter]

that's devon

[void void]

Not runtime patching

DEVON

YES

[woven otter]

our beloved Devon

[void void]

fucking hell that guy

[shell vine]

[ember crag]

I don't remember if I was here or not when that happened.

[void void]

It caused a goddamn riot

Also his code was literal vomit

[limber knot]

He's still alive

[ember crag]

Beautiful

[void void]

But yea he was trying to justify to us why it's ok for him to physically patch the server jar

As in, literally fucking modify it on disk

For his plugin

[shell vine]

well i remember some of the code i wrote in high school lol would cause a riot

[vestal jasper]

time to learn proper concurrency ty simple and mini

[void void]

Meaning if you wanna get rid of his plugin, you have to get a whole new server jar

[woven otter]

he was trying to justify every shitty thing he did

[void void]

[turbid ocean]

Has anyone got resources that have already made paper into a docker image with automatic updating and restarting ideally?

[ember crag]

I still have an old webpage I keep around to remind myself of how much better I've gotten with html/js/php

[vestal jasper]

automatic updating
I'd advise you audit updates before applying them

[shell vine]

we had to make a blackjack game, i made a if else tree with every single possibility

[limber knot]

Automatic updating is just wgetting the paperclip jar from the api

[ember crag]

Unfortunately, web development is no longer just html/js/php, and every fucking job requires you to know 5+ frameworks.

[limber knot]

Auto restarting docker handles for you

[ember crag]

Cba learning a new framework for every contract.

[turbid ocean]

Hmm is there a generic url for the latest version of it?

[vestal jasper]

I'd advise against automatic updating as in blindly pulling all updates as they happen *

[limber knot]

Yes

[vestal jasper]

One example of why: md_5 once decided to change how keepinventory works in code. Causing plugins like essentials to dupe inventories for a day.

[turbid ocean]

Yeah I'm not going to automatically do it, just automate it somewhat

Just looking at the premade thing if it existed and modifying it myself

[vestal jasper]

there should be a pinned message in #announcements about the API

[limber knot]

https:// papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.15.2/latest/download

[vestal jasper]

parchment iirc?

yeah

[turbid ocean]

Thank you

[ember crag]

Well, early day tomorrow. Talk again soon lads.

[void void]

Nice

(5 liters)

[fallen eagle]

||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||§

[void void]

ok dumass

[woven otter]

metric is the only true measurement system

[heady spear]

I'll just tell SI units to fuck right off then

[void void]

i cant change it in this app

hence why i converted it for you

its 5 liters

[void void]

lol

[vestal jasper]

[static badge]

[limber knot]

what app doesnt support the standard units?

[void void]

its called Lifesum

[limber knot]

sounds dum

[void void]

and as far as i can tell it does not have an option for me to switch to metric

if it did, i would have but it doesnt so

[limber knot]

lifedum

[unreal quarry]

Pfft. Metric is non standard

[limber knot]

SI is standard tho

and liter is an SI unit

[unreal quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfaaYjk2HEE

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Super Troopers - Gimme a litre o' cola - length 2m 33s - 2,247 likes, 72 dislikes (96.9%) - 341,047 views - FUCK YOU GOOGLE on 2014.07.22

[void void]

what is a sufficient amount of chunks to fill with world border for a small server 10-15 players?

[unreal quarry]

highly depends on what you want. most servers dont even need to pregen anymore, since world generation is async now

[limber knot]

wait wot gen is async?

[unreal quarry]

only time i recommend pre generating these days is if you want to see the full world on dynmap or something

[limber knot]

since when? :o

its parallel

[unreal quarry]

world gen has been async since 1.14

mojang did that

[limber knot]

doesn't it still hella stick on the server?

[unreal quarry]

not really

unless you have a potato

[limber knot]

oh alright

til

[unreal quarry]

theres still work, sure, but its not drastic since it doesnt bog down main thread. you get minimal gains from pre genning

for most, the long wait to pregen isnt worth those gains, imho

[wraith glen]

guys anyone can you tell me what that mean

?

https://hasteb.in/hiduzuyo.css

[limber knot]

a plugin?

[unreal quarry]

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/2535

[limber knot]

I don't think that log is from Bungee itself tho

ah ignore me

it's always great when someone delivers a translation and there's numerous massive mistakes on the first few lines

like writing "without" instead of "within"

advanced stuff I swear

[unreal quarry]

Hmm. Seems Superbowl was yesterday. I'm the only employee that didn't call in today lol

[limber knot]

I really don't get why people are so obsessed with these sporting events

[real cave]

Sporting events are great, but imagine playing football with hands

Murica

[limber knot]

yeah let's go look at people running from one side of a field to another

fabulous entertainment

[real cave]

I mean, plenty of sports are entertaining

[limber knot]

why couldn't millenials kill spectating sports as a leisure activity

[real cave]

I find boxing very entertaining

Can't wait for wilder vs fury 2

[limber knot]

if you aren't allowed to bathe in the blood of your enemies then it hardly matters

[real cave]

ok boomer

[limber knot]

yeah those boomers and their not watching sports and bloodsports

classic boomer

[real cave]

xd

[left swift]

Zoomers are

It's all about them esports babbyyy

[real cave]

esportslul

[left swift]

Csgo best esport

[real cave]

CS 🥴

[short yarrow]

when people talk about the Minecraft protocol are they talking about the packets Minecraft sends?

[limber knot]

they're talking about the chronic depression

[limber knot]

looking at the protocol for too long causes that, yeah

@Hydraxus, wiki.vg is your friend

[void void]

thanks @unreal quarry

I'm already at solid 20 TPS so I don't think it's necessary either but want to squeeze out every ounce of perf 😅

[short yarrow]

I don't really understand much about packets unfortunately 😦

it's pretty confusing for me

[woven otter]

Educate yourself

[void void]

what is an optimal view-distance, like how much is too much (more than usually necessary)?

[left swift]

I use 8 on my survival server

[void void]

I had mine at 10* and was worried it may be too low 😅

[left swift]

Yerrr

[upper flicker]

10 is the vanilla default

a lot of servers run at 7 or 8 to improve performance

a few servers (usually smaller) up it to 12-15

higher view distances mean more chunks, more chunks means more entities, more blocks ticking, more tiles, etc

[woven otter]

change view-distance to 🌮

[fallen oracle]

EZ fix.

[heady spear]

Hi babes

[woven otter]

Hello city

[limber knot]

don't forget that increasing view distance does not have a linear impact on performance

[jaunty bolt]

our view-distance is like... 4

[void void]

what texture packs do u guys use

[olive garden]

Programmer graphics

[limber knot]

I always used one of the "HD vanilla" ones

I think they've all died out but the nice thing about them is since the style doesn't change between them and vanilla you can have a mix of both without it looking weird, some things just don't look at sharp

faithful

yeah used a 64x faithful pack until 1.14 came around

since then just used the default

I've been using stevens traditional 64x64

it's a mostly faithful res pack

man I'm really nervous rn

like I've not been in years

about to get the grade for my last class and tbh there's a decent chance it won't go well

[static badge]

rip

[potent warren]

If I were to take a full Paper jar and use an automated tool to remove all code from the methods inside the classes on that jar, would it be possible for me to have it on a maven repo, or would I still be distributing Mojang's property?

[void void]

what lol

[static badge]

Why would you do that

[void void]

^

[potent warren]

I wouldn't, but I was wondering about that lmao

[limber knot]

it's still mojangs classes and still mojangs structure, even if obfuscated

[static badge]

We also need the armchair lawyers to answer your question

Oh look found one

[upper flicker]

depends how Oracle v Google plays out

[limber knot]

[void void]

what the fuck would the point be???

[static badge]

And another

[limber knot]

.leaf

[upper flicker]

tbh it was discussed at one point

[limber knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289587909051416579/550924756111589397/Peek_2019-03-01_01-17.webm

[upper flicker]

but uh, kind of shelved given the grey area

[fallen oracle]

Ooo

[limber knot]

ooO

[void void]

the point being wut tho. still wondering. just so you can have the class and method defs? like

are just those important enough for you to strip all the code out of each method and host it on nexus as opposed to just building the jar and putting it in a private repo

like

[upper flicker]

yes it would be much easier

[void void]

just sounds really fuckig retarded

[upper flicker]

especially given the sad state of buildtools and even our own build script

they're both an annoying hurdle

if you could just target the ABI you'd save everyone a lot of hassle

[fallen oracle]

Dang, lots of upstream updates lately.

[void void]

i guess

kisses @fallen oracle

good morning sweetcheeks

[upper flicker]

the people actually developing the stuff would still want the real deal most of the time

[fallen oracle]

Work on calc

[upper flicker]

because you hope they're actually reading the methods they use

👀

but for CI servers, curious users, etc it does remove an annoying step

[void void]

ok fair point

[fallen oracle]

Would it build faster?

[upper flicker]

not really no

[fallen oracle]

Not that it really matters

Would it cut down on jar size?

Not that it really matters either.

[void void]

i need to go on my walk before classes but im waiting for my breakfast to refrigerate

[upper flicker]

no, you dont shade the impl jar anyway

[fallen oracle]

I already had an 8:30

[void void]

i've had a few experiences with classes before 9am and let me just tell you

no

[fallen oracle]

Lol

My next class is 3:30ish

[void void]

i've got 11am-5pm

[fallen oracle]

Yikes

[void void]

5 hours of that is chemistry

[fallen oracle]

I have chem also, but only for an hour every other day.

[void void]

the bulk of it is lab

[fallen oracle]

Ahh I have a 3 hour lab tomorrow

[void void]

if i finish fast enough i can just go, so potentially im done in like an hour?

worst case 3, hence 5pm

[fallen oracle]

Ahh

[void void]

should be a fast lab, we're just calculating liquid displacement

[fallen oracle]

Nice

I've got an exam tomorrow already. Not looking forward to it.

[void void]

dayum

[green turret]

Got a message about inappropriate behavior for one of my messages now. I wonder if it's like "the review has begun", and I'll get banned soon.

[void void]

lol

[green turret]

It was definitely over the top, I'm not gonna pretend it wasn't 😛

[void void]

the one where you destroyed vagdedes?

[green turret]

He linked to another one, so I wonder if it's like "this one was bad", and in a while I'll get "this one was REALLY bad" and then finally "okay you're too toxic, bye bye".

[void void]

theyre all a bunch of butt pirates anyway

nothing of value lost

[golden gust]

speaking of butt pirates

hai simple

[void void]

pirates @golden gust's butt

hai

what GUI chest shop plugin would you recommend?

[acoustic pilot]

GUIShopXPlusAdvanced 4.20

[upper flicker]

is... is that an xbox live clan tag or something?

[void void]

i found kashike's JS framework https://nestjs.com/

cats everywhere!!!! 1

[green turret]

Sure, I mean, they might be butt pirates, but I hope that if I do get a ban, I can at least keep updating my plugin 😛

[void void]

ive given up making public mc resources

for the very reason that some1 just b like "wow u sux, band"

and then no more updates

[ember crag]

Seems I opened discord at an inopportune moment.

Cannot unsee.

[void void]

indeed

[green turret]

Yeah that was weird

[void void]

what a shit show amirite

[green turret]

If I didn't have this stupid RSI in my forearms, I'd be working on my plugin a lot more. I love seeing the creative stuff people pull off with it, and I really want to push it past the limits it has had for many years now. My ultimate goal is to recreate some of my favorite boss fights/dungeons from WoW in Minecraft using my own plugin!

[upper flicker]

which was your plugin?

[green turret]

MobArena

[upper flicker]

oh right, yeah I used to love playing in mob arena

[ember crag]

Same

Back when combat was still just mash

[green turret]

Hahah yeah

[void void]

rsi?

[ember crag]

I'd imagine it takes a bit more strategy now.

[green turret]

RSI is repetitive strain injury. Basically I can't use a normal keyboard for more than a few minutes before I have excruciating pain in my forearms. I use a Kinesis Advantage 2 and a Contour UniMouse at work, and it gives me a lot more stamina. But I also do a lot of project management and stuff that I can do without a computer (lots of meetings), so I can still work a full time position.

[void void]

ah i see

i hope to god i never get one of them mfs :D

[green turret]

It's chronic as well. I've tried everything from physical therapy to acupuncture.

Yeah, listen to the signals from your body, don't push through any pain you get, because it will only get worse.

Look up a talk by Travis Rudd if you want to see a fun display of someone who ended up hacking up an effective voice controlled setup for programming.

[acoustic pilot]

i dunno if using something like datahands would bypass the pain

instead of a keyboard/mouse

my old roommate uses them very proficiently, better hacker than i am for sure 😛

[green turret]

"lape" and "rape" mean "left paren" and "right paren". He apparently has like 2200 different voice commands to type stuff with because the real names for programming symbols are too inefficient.

Datahands, never heard of

[acoustic pilot]

he has them set up on his recliner armrests lol

looks really comfy

[green turret]

Oh damn, that looks pretty sweet, hahah

[acoustic pilot]

it's a whole keyboard, just a matter of learning to use it

only requires finger movement

entirely possible to be very proficient in this with coding