general

[green turret]

Okay, I got an email saying "Dear John, Thank you for your order", attached is a PDF that shows a payment of 2500 bucks for 5 double bedrooms at some fancy hotel. I write back "Hi, My name isn't John, but I'll gladly accept the offer if John already paid! Sincerely, mule".

[golden gust]

Well, that's one way to confirm your email address to spammers

[green turret]

Nah, check this out 😛

[golden gust]

mfw

[green turret]

They just wrote back, "Dear mule, I apologize on behalf of my dear colleague. I have changed the name to mule, which is also a much prettier name. You can collect a free coffee when you arrive."

Now I have to write them back and tell them they got the wrong number xD

[pulsar wigeon]

where's the hotel

time to book a vacation

[green turret]

It's like 30 mins from here, hahah

[pulsar wigeon]

odd coincidence

[limber knot]

lmao

[green turret]

I get a lot of these.

[heady spear]

I can be your escort if you want some company

[green turret]

For two years I had full access to this random guy's tax info and could see his missed payments, because the bills were sent to my email as well.

[heady spear]

tax info is public info here. Ain't no secrets in socialismland

[pulsar wigeon]

is your email something very typoable or common name...?

[green turret]

It's my last name @gmail.com

[fallen oracle]

[e-mail]

Nice

[green turret]

The last time this happened, I got a series of emails addressed to some guy who ordered a package off the Danish version of ebay. I found him on Facebook and told him to give me his email so I could forward them.

[heady spear]

r u danish

[green turret]

My email is my last name, but just pretend that's Anderson. His email was [e-mail].

I seriously don't understand how you can make that huge of a mistake.

Yes I am.

[heady spear]

ew

[upper flicker]

I liked [e-mail] better

[heady spear]

danskjävlar överallt 😦

i thought that jan dude was the last one but you just keep popping up

[pulsar wigeon]

racism

first upsidedownists now danishists

[crystal compass]

man

[pulsar wigeon]

when will it ever end

[heady spear]

danes deserve it tho

[crystal compass]

One of the paper updates broke Checking for ChatColor translated Names

[green turret]

What jan dude?

[crystal compass]

For my guis, if I checked if Current item equals a ChatColor translated name, half of them will work, and half dont

i have to strip color for it to work

also for making custom items do stuff via checking name

[heady spear]

dumb edgelord that frequents a bunch of servers 😛

[crystal compass]

they just stop working randomly and work at some times

without error

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty sure he's banned here

[heady spear]

cute

[crystal compass]

I think its been happenin ever since I changed the api version to 1.15

Could be wrong though

[pulsar wigeon]

changing the api version in your plugin.yml to 15 (from 13 or 14) does nothing

only matters if you're going from no version to version (ie determines whether you get legacy material shit)

[golden gust]

Nothings been changed there in a gooood long while by us

[pulsar wigeon]

(*well technically it makes your plugin not load on earlier versions)

[golden gust]

Spigot miiiight change changed something there in the past while, but that's not really a timeframe that I hope would be relevant....

But, items are somewhat inconsistent, e.g. stuffing them through vanilla runs conversions over them to transform them into real stacks which can have issues, heavy recommend comparing actual items vs just the names and using ensureServerConversions is called on the stack you're comparing to if you wanna aim for consistency, assuming your stacks in game aren't modified

[latent valve]

@heady spear durå är du dansk? 👀

[heady spear]

ew no

[pulsar wigeon]

he's a dirty swede

the only good thing about sweden is the fish tbh

[latent valve]

Öj wiz 🗡️

[crystal compass]

Yeah im doing that from now on electronic

Gotta go ahead and go through all my plugins, change the checks to ChatColor.Stripcolor()

[woven otter]

wiz it's okay we can be wizist too

[limber knot]

or, you know, just use the persistent data api to compare nbt values

checking display names/lore is so 2018

runs

[golden gust]

I'll chek u out

:lenny

[merry talon]

:lenny

[pulsar wigeon]

can you tho phoenix?

i was under the impression persistent data api only allowed custom nbt, not checking the inbuilt/existing nbt

[golden gust]

correct

[limber knot]

I was refering to your own, custom data set previously

[golden gust]

But, not really an issue here as you're able to throw your own data on it

[pulsar wigeon]

oh yea

you should be using your own data as an identifier instead of trying to match names and lore and shit

[limber knot]

also for GUIs you don't even need that, all you need to care about there is the slot number ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar wigeon]

.ud api

nvm wtf

[golden gust]

?ud api

[void void]

.g ud api

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://udapi.github.io/ -- Udapi – API&framework for UD: "Udapi. API and multi-language framework for processing ... Udapi. a framework for processing Universal Dependencies data. Links. Python: GitHub +..."

[golden gust]

!ud api

[void void]

[wide chasm]

Udapi sounds great

[pulsar wigeon]

could have sworn i saw people using that

[void void]

same

[pulsar wigeon]

maybe just .g urbandictionary? idk

[limber knot]

.ud test

[golden gust]

Sorry, forked repositories are not currently searchable.

Forgot about that...

[limber knot]

!ud test

?ud test

just create more github accounts than the parent has stars and star your fork

runs

[pulsar wigeon]

wait, is that a thing

[limber knot]

that's cheating

[pulsar wigeon]

if a fork becomes more popular than the original, does it become the main searchable repo?

[limber knot]

yeah

[pulsar wigeon]

wonder what happens if you have two divergent but both popular projects...

[golden gust]

brb, making WEBG

(But Good)

[pulsar wigeon]

not worried about that, so far fawe is dead without jesse, awe is slow af, and coreedit is some shitty moneygrab

the hypothetical is more like a mariadb situation, where it's a fork of mysql

(though it seems like it's separate on github...dunno how it was originally "forked")

[upper flicker]

WENW

WorldEditNoWiz

[pulsar wigeon]

but magic is faaast

[heady spear]

wdym fawe is dead

it's thriving

doing super well and the reception from the community has been great

[golden gust]

mfw

[real cave]

@heady spear not on 1.15.2 tho

unless it's been updated in the last 3 days I haven't used it for

[heady spear]

Yes it’s perfect 100%

[real cave]

did they push the update for free version too?

[heady spear]

There has been zero bug reports over the last couple of months and everyone has rated it 5 stars on spigot so idk what you’re on about

[real cave]

because it was on premium only for a while.

[pulsar wigeon]

no, $100 per version

every update is $100

[real cave]

sure dawg

[pulsar wigeon]

paid directly to city's camera equipment fund

i mean, fawe has always been free

so you're clearly smoking some bad shit

[heady spear]

I actually really want a 80mm f/1.2

[real cave]

🤦

FAWE premium gets updates first

[heady spear]

I miss my old aps-c 50mm, it was great

[real cave]

FAWE free gets updates a while later

[heady spear]

There’s no premium version you pumpkin

You’re talking about AWE

[pulsar wigeon]

niknaiz

[real cave]

So if they've pushed the update to free, it's great.

[pulsar wigeon]

holy fuk

[heady spear]

And no one cares about AWE, so you might as well stop.

[pulsar wigeon]

he's actually retarded

[real cave]

Alright, shut up now.

[pulsar wigeon]

no

[heady spear]

No u

[real cave]

Yes, wiz. Lol.

[pulsar wigeon]

maybe if you shut up and took a second to read what we were telling you you'd not be saying retarded shit constantly

[heady spear]

Reading is hard

Also r/java is the worst place on the internet, holy shit the people in there are so fucking insufferable

[pulsar wigeon]

i feel like you haven't been too far around the internet

[real cave]

I'll check out fawe a bit later

[heady spear]

Someone could share their app which cures cancer on there and people would be mad because it’s not using an early access build of their own personal jdk fork

Don’t plz, FAWE doesn’t need that

Also the people on r/programming all think you should use vs code as your java IDE (sic)

[pulsar wigeon]

lul

i mean, reddit.

[real cave]

finally got what I put €1300 down for

xd

sick footage

[heady spear]

SiCk

lel our worldguard copy takes 300ms to do a region query on a location

dope

[pulsar furnace]

Did you manage to get it connected to the app?

[real cave]

@pulsar furnace the drone? Yeah, why?

No issues. It better not have any at that price.

[pulsar furnace]

I can't get mine to connect at all. Auth error

[heady spear]

lol stop being bad lol lol

[real cave]

@pulsar furnace Also Mavic Pro 2m

?*

[pulsar furnace]

Flies ok, but cant get it connected at all.
Plus, the 23 minutes fly time they advertise is nearer 6

[pulsar wigeon]

tf is wrong with ur wg city

[pulsar furnace]

Same one as in pic yeah

[pulsar wigeon]

maybe you should stop being bad

how many loaded regions do you have even

[heady spear]

lol like 100

[pulsar wigeon]

literally nothng

[real cave]

Fly time is roughly 30 minutes with no wind. I got 3 batteries tho. @pulsar furnace

[pulsar wigeon]

ur server bad

[heady spear]

idk what the hell it's doing tbh

[real cave]

@pulsar furnace Do you have an iPhone or an Android?

[golden gust]

Might need to give the battery a few cycles, make sure you leave it on charge for a few hours

[pulsar furnace]

Android.
Samsung a20

[real cave]

Do you not see the drone in the app?

[golden gust]

I did have this super cheapo drone, was kinda cool

[heady spear]

Also so lol we go from 20tps to like 5 if more than two people join the server

I'm not too happy with that

[golden gust]

Kinda wanna get a new one or something, but like, dats money and bleh :L

[pulsar furnace]

I paid extra for the upgraded camera.
The chinglish instructions dont really explain how to connect it to the app

[real cave]

@golden gust Yeah, but it's an investment at this point for me. I used to buy drones off of AliExpress lol. €50 drones for fun.

My friend went full psycho mode and bought Inspire 2, which is way above if what I paid.

[heady spear]

spending money on camera equipment is dumb

u have eyes, use those as a camera

smh kids these days just living through their screens

[real cave]

Stinks up.

[pulsar furnace]

My eyes don't print photos that well anymore

[golden gust]

sends city a lewd pic

[limber knot]

trying to fly a drone in Germany at places where there actually is something to film with the camera is an insane legal hassle xD

[real cave]

Just memorize something you are asked to take a photo of. Draw it.

Smh, no skill these days.

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, i don't think that's unique to germany

[limber knot]

like you can't fly above humans, other private ground, near airports/train tracks

[heady spear]

in Sweden everyone thinks that every drone belongs to Russia and that we're being attacked

tbf we also think that the birds are russian spies so

[real cave]

@pulsar furnace It's really straight forward.

[limber knot]

but birds are NSA spies already?

[pulsar wigeon]

double agent bird spies

[heady spear]

minecraft can suck my pp

[pulsar furnace]

Yup, mind doesn't open successfully. Authentication failed. Waiting on a reply from tech support

[real cave]

Yeah, it's not legal to operate a drone in city here as well. You need a permit above certain height, but nobody cares outside cities. Unless you fly high enough to interfere with the air traffic lmao

[heady spear]

drones r stil lame, I just tie my camera to a crow and then scream so it flies off

[limber knot]

problem is that outside the city is often right in the next city in germany xD

[heady spear]

way more authentic

if I clone citizens and just copy all of their code then that's not theft right?

[limber knot]

I guess you could fly it somewhere in the mountains or a bigger forrest/field but who wants to see that? could just get a racing fpv drone for that

[real cave]

Yeah, that's true. I guess. I've never flown a drone in Germany. Only thing I remember from the time I was in Germany was the fucking road work on the Autobahns lmao

[pulsar furnace]

I bought mine to get some epic climbing footage. So will be mostly flown around the mountains

[real cave]

Gotta charge it and test it out more

@pulsar furnace I imagine the footage of climbing+activetrack would be pretty cool. 😄

[heady spear]

moving a decompiled folder in intellij crashes the instance

lel

[cosmic raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I43SMbqOMmY

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Kim Possible Theme Song - Both Vesrions - length 2m - 62,096 likes, 1,160 dislikes (98.2%) - 6,637,869 views - big16bill16 on 2012.07.27

vesrions

6 million views

[woven otter]

Kim is hot

[limber knot]

can someone burn duck please

[pulsar wigeon]

you know what else is hot

[heady spear]

my dad

[pulsar wigeon]

cripsy roast duck straight off the fire

[heady spear]

oh

[pulsar wigeon]

ooookaaaaay then]

[limber knot]

can someone burn city as well

[woven otter]

kenny is hot when on fire

as well as wiz

[pulsar wigeon]

wouldn't mind tbh my office is cold af

[heady spear]

why does my server crash when I move

[limber knot]

cause ur fat, city

[heady spear]

[18:56:30] [Server thread/WARN]: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot get data class of Modern Material

lel

[woven otter]

it's because of ur shit code

[heady spear]

I mean yes literally

[woven otter]

yes

literally 💩

[heady spear]

suck my ding dong

it looks like we're pulling the plug on free plotsquared :3

[woven otter]

n u smell

[heady spear]

me yesterday: I would never create a premium resource
me today: I am going to charge for plots. Plots r privilege.

[limber knot]

ok

help with what

oupsies, scrolled up

[heady spear]

wiz is bullying me 😦

[limber knot]

but still open source, right oO

[heady spear]

and also stole a role

Ye, we're probably making it freemium

I mostly don't want to deal with dumb fucks asking for help anymore. Everyone is so bloody rude

[limber knot]

alright, I can put away the rocket launcher

[wide chasm]

But what about all that donation money?

[heady spear]

all of the $0, hm. It will be missed, that's for sure.

[wide chasm]

If you got 0 dollars, you've made less than I have, which is pretty impressive for PlotSquared tbh

I knew it was bad, but that bad

[heady spear]

$0 over the last couple of months

probably a couple of thousands altogether

after we released v4 we got around 2k I think

[woven otter]

$0

[wide chasm]

I've gotten about 50 bucks over 4.5 years, so stop complaining with your "couple of thousands"!

Or I'll release PlotSquared for free myself /s

[pulsar wigeon]

only money i get is from curse rewards lul

idk how much if any we get in donations

doubt it has ever even covered server costs

[wide chasm]

Tbh, City if people are rude, just ban them.

Introduce a "Be polite" rule that you can interpret however you like and shove everything under that.

[heady spear]

we'd have to ban everyone lol

[pulsar wigeon]

do it

[heady spear]

I just don't provide any support instead

I don't really give a flying fuck if your dumb road schematic pastes upside down in the wrong world

[woven otter]

stupid fucks

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/qaLPFRo.png

[limber knot]

You smell

[heady spear]

well so

uh

my brother just called

and they've found my dad

dead

so this kinda sucks

[cosmic raft]

hey @void void

remember when you tried to be me

https://i.imgur.com/yFv0bi6.png

[real cave]

@heady spear wat

[wide chasm]

Practically identical

[upper flicker]

not in as many GH orgs

but otherwise basically the same person

[cosmic raft]

what do you mean

i'm not in any orgs

https://i.imgur.com/450bna5.png

[wide chasm]

Wtf

[cosmic raft]

What, stef? :D

[wide chasm]

Oh, nothing

[woven otter]

kash is just awesome

[cosmic raft]

one day I will break 100 followers, it keeps getting up to the high 90s and then people unfollow me for some reason

rude people

[pulsar wigeon]

brb going to follow kash just so i can unfollow

[cosmic raft]

rude

[limber knot]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/i3jawoqyhzk4as8/657880073.png Should i

Vertanzil: i'll bribe you

oo what with

a hug

Goona have to do better than that

i can move to threats

careful, he's gonna pour syrup and feathers over you

or i'll send him to wuhan

oO

[woven otter]

woohan

[limber knot]

You supposed to be wooing me not woohaning me

[woven otter]

to wuhan u go

[limber knot]

im taking my ducky with me

[heady spear]

ye they called to confirm, so my dad's dead. So like, how does one deal with that ._. I'm stuck at uni, on the opposite side of the country

[limber knot]

by talking to other (sane) family members and friends 👀

[heady spear]

well I have no sane family members, so the friend option sounds more reasonable

[upper flicker]

most uni's will grant you pretty amazing releases and academic holds for a situation like that if you need to leave for a while

[fallen jungle]

I don't know how close you were to your dad but to me that sounds like a godawful situation, I'm sorry

[limber knot]

pulls off ducks leg

[woven otter]

.kill Vertanzil

[limber knot]

grabs Vertanzil's head and rips it clean off their body.

[cosmic raft]

:(

hugs city

[light olive]

Hey I was told that Paper blocks something with Raid Farms, does anyone know what that is and if it is still the case?

[heady spear]

I mean yeah it fucking blows but idk how to even react

I'm super bad at this emotion stuff

[void void]

@cosmic raft yes

oh wow 😰 sorry city D:

i followed u kash but GH still says 99 >:(

[olive garden]

I too followed him and still at 99 lmao

[fallen oracle]

What if they don't know how to swim and they drown?

[pulsar wigeon]

i'll drown u

[fallen oracle]

Don't threaten me with a good time.

[pulsar wigeon]

[primal minnow]

hello

Does anyone code java or is a developer? (if so please dm me more info) I am starting out my own mc server, you will get a % of the profit and very high ranking role. I will be paying for this server my self including the plugins and extensions you will not need to pay anything.

[olive garden]

Yes, I code developer

hey, edits are cheating

[primal minnow]

😄

We always make mistakes

[golden gust]

ask tigarys mother

[limber knot]

Most people kneel over when they find out how much us developers cost

[golden gust]

"I mean, it's just once, surely we can get away with it"

runs

[ancient bolt]

I cost $250 / hour minimum

[primal minnow]

oh ok

[ancient bolt]

But that's not for development.... 😉

[golden gust]

was gonna say

Could get a budget fun time and MCM dev for that

[limber knot]

Expensive

[ancient bolt]

budget fun time

How much are you paying for MCM??

[limber knot]

budget fun time? Just buy a cake

[olive garden]

cat, why would someone ask my mother?

[limber knot]

Probally means a handjob and backrub for £0.50

electroniccat like a door knob everyones had a turn.

[olive garden]

I demand answers you dumm cat, I demand them now

[limber knot]

wait you can get a backrub for £0.50?!?!

[golden gust]

am sayin dat ur mother tempted the fate of not having a rubber

[limber knot]

ive been wasting money on spas

[olive garden]

lmao

that's going in my collection of rude things you said to me for no reason

[limber knot]

You asked for it though

are you masochistic or something?

[olive garden]

I just said that edits are cheating

[limber knot]

Its not cheating, it’s an upgrade

cheating is using more than one plugin mfw

dont two time your plugins

[limber knot]

pets electroniccat

OwO

[olive garden]

.lart electroniccat

[limber knot]

rips off electroniccat's arm, and uses it to beat them to death.

[olive garden]

that's what I'm talking about

[unreal quarry]

I dont always eat breakfast. But when I do, it's for dinner

[ancient bolt]

A colorblind man could solve a mirror cube

[static badge]

.g mirror cube

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://ruwix.com/twisty-puzzles/3x3x3-rubiks-cube-shape-mods-variations/mirror-blocks-cube/ -- The Mirror Blocks Cube - Twisty Puzzle: "The Mirror Blocks (or Mirror Cube) is probably the best entry level shape mod puzzle, as it requires knowledge of a normal 3x3 and its solution..."

[ancient bolt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q0C4JZE

[static badge]

yeah I guess

MODS PEOPLE AREN'T USING #memes

[pulsar wigeon]

👀

don't make me whip out the hammer

[static badge]

mods turning against their own

[woven otter]

dumcord dying again. irc people can rub that in our faces again

[limber knot]

hi, I am an irc people

[olive garden]

associating with multiple people is a sign if schizophrenia, please seek professional help

in case you would rather not, I would like to know that I am here for you, always

*I would like you to know

[left swift]

What

[static badge]

what where'd it go

did a fellow moderator moderate

[pulsar wigeon]

yes

#memes exists for a reason

[stiff yarrow]

😔

[quasi valley]

When a mod need to mod mods, smh

[stiff yarrow]

[quasi valley]

That image is truly amazing

[static badge]

wtf where'd my kekw go

this is going too far wiz back off

[stiff yarrow]

I want to use peep emotes so bad but my gf made me stop

[static badge]

what

[stiff yarrow]

She has friends that get offended by it so I can’t use them

[quasi valley]

[stiff yarrow]

It doesn’t offend her, she just doesn’t want her friends to get upset

[static badge]

egads gl with that

they're not here are they

[stiff yarrow]

I have been peep free for like 4 months

It’s painful

[static badge]

where did my feelsBadMan go

[stiff yarrow]

[icy pewter]

can I ask questions about craftbukkit here, if not where

[celest coyote]

Peep? Do you mean pepe

[icy pewter]

It's in regards to a patch

[stiff yarrow]

You can ask but it’s a paper discord

[icy pewter]

only one way to find out :P

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/nms-patches/BlockPumpkinCarved.patch does anyone have any clue what this patch actually does?

[static badge]

it likely does many things

as it's a patch to a file

[icy pewter]

to me it looks like it doesn't do anything at all

I mean what it changes :P

it just seems like they shifted the logic around a little

[static badge]

god knows

[stiff yarrow]

Try to find the commit it was added and it may give further context

[static badge]

that's the downside of using file based patches

you don't even have a title for the changes

[celest coyote]

It adds the api and internal shit from what I can see

[icy pewter]

I did that, all it mentioned was something about players and uuids

[stiff yarrow]

You could try asking md5 if he’s in a nice mood he might answer

[upper flicker]

hey nossr o/

[golden gust]

wut

[static badge]

it looks like it's allowing cancellation of the spawn

hence the block list

and the moving around of the effect

[celest coyote]

Snowman events mostly

[icy pewter]

then why don't they just put a normal new Event or add a craft handle factory method

[golden gust]

it patches that nms class to add events for controlling the behavior of pumkins

[stiff yarrow]

Hello Z

[golden gust]

Because the backing code for it needs to go somewhere

[static badge]

best place to put it is there tbh

[stiff yarrow]

[golden gust]

Having a method in the event factory class doesn't magically make it do something, they gotta go actually target the source

[icy pewter]

well yes but it just looks as if they could have just thrown an event prior to the for loop there and returned if cancelled

[limber knot]

Normally that's done so the list of affected blocks can be passed to the event

[icy pewter]

ohhh

[celest coyote]

Don't nitpick about spigot implementation you will go insane

[icy pewter]

that makes sense

[limber knot]

That isn't happening here though so... shrug

[icy pewter]

:md5pls:

where is md5 on the internet anyways

[stiff yarrow]

If you want your head to hurt go look at getDrops()

[icy pewter]

irc?

[stiff yarrow]

On irc

[static badge]

it's used to prevent the blocks from being placed if cancelled

[stiff yarrow]

He’s very abrasive you have been warned

[icy pewter]

oh

[static badge]

why it's not using the capture stuff?

[golden gust]

and you thought wiz was nasty

the capture stuff is a hack to having to avoid patching every interaction with the world

[icy pewter]

sometimes I can't tell whats worse, the licencing mess or the impl

[limber knot]

This isn't stopping you from placing the pumpkin, it's stopping the server from breaking the blocks that would turn in to the snowman if you cancel spawning the snowman

[golden gust]

in cases like this, it's easier to capture the changes about to be made

[stiff yarrow]

The licensing drama is overblown 😛

Enjoy the patch based hell

[icy pewter]

ah thanks amar

[celest coyote]

Patches are based ngl

[limber knot]

You could probably do this by trying to spawn the snowman before you break the blocks instead

[icy pewter]

well yes other than the fact the mappings are all rights reserved, craftbukkit is GPL? or something like that and bukkit api is LGPL or something

[limber knot]

Since it's not like we're removing the blocks then putting them back so there shouldn't be a difference

[icy pewter]

and spigot is arr too I think

[limber knot]

Bukkit and CraftBukkit are both GPL

[icy pewter]

mhm, that makes sense

[static badge]

yeah was thinking the same thing

[stiff yarrow]

Spigot has its own special license too

Everything is dual licensed out the ass

[static badge]

the order could be switched

and the block list could be removed

[icy pewter]

well there's no licence on the spigot repo itself

so it's arr I think

[limber knot]

Bukkit is definitely GPL, CraftBukkit claims to be both, doesn't say which is right, and uses Bukkit so is effectively GPL no matter what license it actually is

[stiff yarrow]

There’s a license for contributions

[golden gust]

bearing in mind that it also triggers a world effect too for those blocks

[limber knot]

Except Bukkit and CraftBukkit both mix in bits of Mojang code so can't be GPL

So there is no valid license and thus you have no right to distribute it

[icy pewter]

everything is illegal at it's core

[limber knot]

And shipping it as patches doesn't get you around that

[icy pewter]

yea, it makes sense ish to me now

[golden gust]

Oh, that ones the standard block break

[limber knot]

Although saying Bukkit isn't GPL is something Mojang would have to do and unless you start selling the game they are going to leave that alone

Heck, they're leaving Spigot premium section alone even though they've explicitly said you aren't allowed to do that

[golden gust]

some level of meh, but, for the site, they coulda either used the capture system, or the whole "just record the changes", this route is more direct and doesn't involve the capture system

[stiff yarrow]

I don’t know if that invalidates the GPL stuff 🤔

[limber knot]

well the api is valid since it doesn't implement anything on its own

[icy pewter]

yea I don't understand how closed source plugins exist, other than md5 just doesn't care

[golden gust]

API is too coupled against MC impl detail that I really don't think that there is alllll too much of an argument for saying that it's irrelevant to mc

[limber knot]

Bukkit API is both a mirror of Mojang's server structure and copies logic from the Mojang server for some commands

Closed source plugins shouldn't exist because GPL

But paid plugins shouldn't exist because Mojang EULA

[icy pewter]

it's one big happy legal family

[stiff yarrow]

Open source has no negative impact on sales, the only reason to be closed source in a plug-in is because you are embarrassed about your code.

[quasi valley]

cough Intelli

[icy pewter]

aight, thanks for the help, I'll probably be back later :p

[golden gust]

and, hey

that didn't stop nossr

runs

[stiff yarrow]

I wasn’t embarrassed ☺️

[celest coyote]

No shame

[quasi valley]

wasnt?

[stiff yarrow]

9 years ago I knew I was a beginner with bad code but I embraced open source anyways

Sharing is caring

[static badge]

[quasi valley]

And crying is trying

[limber knot]

Just because it is in the EULA doesn't mean it applies either ironically

Yeah but Mojang has some very stern attorneys in London and you have some pocket lint

If it's not a slam dunk case on your side you're going to lose

for instance, how they state you can't give something in exchange for a donation. Technically not valid in the US since there is already laws in place that govern donations and giving items in exchange for a donation is legal ;)

That only applies to not-for-profits, no?

no

[icy pewter]

"donate or wait 5 hours for your download pls and thanks"

[limber knot]

there is Federal laws that govern donations in general

any business can accept donations, however for your donation to be a tax right off, that business has to be a non-profit

And unless the US law says these are the exact rules and you never never be more strict or more lenient that doesn't matter anyway

[static badge]

we armchair lawyering this

[upper flicker]

Clearly

[limber knot]

I suspect it says if you give an item in exchange for a donation here are the rules, not that you are always allowed to do so and no State or contract can restrict you from doing so

Contracts can not take away what laws give you

they become void if they do

Laws aren't supposed to give you anything :P

They're supposed to restrict you

not always

[quasi valley]

glances at human rights laws

[limber knot]

for instance Standards of employment act gives rights to employees

This is a US thing, not a "law" as a term thing

Acts are laws FYI

I was responding to KennyTV, I know

ah

10th Amendment and all

the other thing people forget to, is that if the contract can not reasonably enforce something it is also void as well

Everything starts out legal, government has to pass a law saying it's not legal and the other amendmends restrict what they can and can't say is illegal

so the whole not selling plugins is a big grey area for mojang in the US lol

The only thing I can find via google on this is about how you report such things to the IRS for not-for-profits :/

If you donate $1000 to a not-for-profit and they give you a $100 gift as a thank you on your taxes you can only claim $900

[static badge]

is shit on minecraft servers even donations or are you considered to be selling something

come on armchair lawyer bois

[limber knot]

Well it depends, I will have to find the statue again for the federal laws on donations. But essentially a donation is where you give something and there is no expectation to receive anything in return

Legally? No idea. Philosophically? Depends on your state of mind when asking for them but in broad terms if you're a single guy running a server looking to fund hosting costs, plugin costs (ugh), and some extra for the beer fund then yes. If you're looking to make a living from it or running a business on it then no.

but the organization that you donate to can give you something in return for that donation

however, you are not supposed to profit from donations either is the other thing

but non-profits can still pay their employees ;)

yes and the owner of the non-profit is an employee as well

[pulsar wigeon]

yall fucks realize things can be brought up in civil courts without being criminal offenses

[limber knot]

the biggest difference really is you can't just take whatever amount you want from the non-profit for yourself

[heady spear]

Well turns out dealing with dead people is a fucking mess and a half

So many people we have to call

So much stuff to deal with

[static badge]

rip

[shell vine]

paypal still considers it income and reports it as such unless u register as non profit

[heady spear]

Relatives to contact etc

[shell vine]

i believe anyway

[limber knot]

however for Mojang it will be more expensive since they will have to sue internationally for anyone not in Sweden

could just have Microsoft sue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[heady spear]

Suing within the EU is simple

[limber knot]

no, because Microsoft and Mojang are not the same entities phoenix616

well I'm not a lawyer so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Mojang has some very nice lawyers on retainer in London that seem to be able to operate internationally

Or at least in the US

Ask me how I know

[static badge]

were you trained by em?

[heady spear]

I’ve signed up for a semester of law in Sweden so I’m basically a lawyer

AMA

[limber knot]

lol

[heady spear]

I wanted to do Russian and Latin but I didn’t have enough math credits

[limber knot]

I don't even have the document anymore but I'm pretty sure it heavily implied that if I tried to enforce my copyright via the GPL on anyone they'd sue me for copyright violation of their server

[upper flicker]

swedish law eh?

I suppose ikea needs lawyers too

runs

[static badge]

so what ur saying is we could distribute without paperclip and be free from u

[heady spear]

Just booked train tickets so I can go clean my dads house tomorrow, not how I wanted to spend my weekend

My brother refused to enter as there was blood on the floor. Yikes my dude, what did you think would happen

[limber knot]

Yikes

except their EULA would get in the way of that Amaranth, would be interesting to see them do that in the US

since their EULA contains this bit By "Mods," we mean something original that you created that doesn't contain a substantial part of our copyrightable code or content.

[heady spear]

Also people that haven’t spoken to my dad for years now telling me how close they were etc

Gtfo with that bs. God, people suck

[limber knot]

substantial would be the keyword in all that lol

[static badge]

people dying is a mess tbh gl city

[heady spear]

Such poor timing tho

I told him to wait

[static badge]

jfc kek

[limber knot]

its not always a mess but sometimes it can be

but all the same, good luck with what it is you have to go do city

[heady spear]

I have to find a home for this god awful cat of his

I love cats but this is a demon

[limber knot]

why is it awful ?

[heady spear]

He will launch at your feet and drain them of blood if you happen to get close to him

Sometimes he cuddles and then suddenly he decides that he wants to kill you

He can sleep, wake up and then attack you out of nowhere

Also has terrible farts

[limber knot]

lol

[static badge]

maybe it's trynna tell you something

[limber knot]

I would take the cat, but I doubt you would want to ship an animal internationally XD

[static badge]

just put it in a cardboard box

it'll be fine

[limber knot]

well its expensive

[heady spear]

It would hijack the plane

Not a good idea

[golden gust]

oh ggod

please

[limber knot]

there is the customs fees then there is the vet fees while customs has the animal

[golden gust]

I wanna see that on the news

[heady spear]

The cat is a returned isis member

[static badge]

isis' cat division

[limber knot]

I have about 10 cats here, will have more later this year :)

[static badge]

10 how big is ur place

[limber knot]

23 acres

[static badge]

oh

[green turret]

Do you happen to be a lady and also crazy?

Ah yeah okay

[limber knot]

no, majority of them are for keeping rodents away

few of them are selected to keep as pets though where they are allowed indoors lol

[green turret]

My parents have cats like that on their property. Old farm kinda house thing. There is a cat right now that looks really weird in the face. Almost like a cartoon caveman forehead kinda deal, and it really just looks like it hates existence. It's very friendly though.

[limber knot]

lol

I have an almost pure white kitten that for some reason was born with a stubby tail. None of our cats have stubby tails except that one XD

so not sure why it has one

[green turret]

Like is it just really short?

[limber knot]

its 1/4 the size of a normal tail. So its missing 3/4 of its size

[green turret]

I wonder if it hurts its self esteem.

[limber knot]

doubt it, it plays around like all the others and its one of the few that goes in doors. Loves cuddling with the dogs though

[green turret]

A good kitty!

[limber knot]

you need an app to tell you cool things about java?

o.O

the only thing that sucks about having cats and as many as I do, is knowing that most of the kittens every year will not survive

it doesn't make me sad, but I have to be creative most times in disposing of them since there is kids XD

only times that doesn't work is when my step-mom runs them over >>

fortunately that has only happened one time

then my step-mom accidentally washed one, of course it died too -.-

it jumped into the washing machine, its a front loader, and it did so when she left the laundry room and she didn't bother to check if a cat jumped in and closed the door on it.

I agree

Just harder for me to protect unlike most of the other animals

cats generally don't make any noises when predators are around or alert you. How they alert me is they are generally hiding lol. But the other animals we have generally alert me to them a lot better XD

I get bears, mountains lions, bob cats, foxes, owls, hawks etc

[heady spear]

My sisters dumb ass dog tries to play with all the wild animals he sees

We went for a walk and he decided to chase after a deer so I had to run after him in the forest, dumb fuck

Our bears only attack bikers tho so they’re fine

[limber knot]

deer can be deadly especially if its a buck XD

one of these days we plan on getting a couple of king donkey's since they kill bears

[heady spear]

Moose are scary af tho

[limber knot]

but, so far we generally don't have a problem with bears. They come on our property but we generally leave the wild life alone unless it comes too close to our dwellings

[heady spear]

There was this mean fucking bull that decided to be mad at me when I went for a run once and I nearly shat my pants

[limber knot]

lokl

[heady spear]

I would probably rather encounter a bear tbh

Than an angry moose

[limber knot]

Yeah

because the odds are the bear will leave you alone

humans are not part of a bears normal diet. There is very few reasons why a bear will attack someone.

[heady spear]

Once when we were biking we managed to get super close to a wolf, that was pretty cool

[limber knot]

hybrid wolves can be scary btw

forgot we have a few of those around here

they are huge

We have great danes, which are fairly large dogs but these hybrids are bigger then they are lol

I haven't seen them lately which is good because I don't like dealing with them

[heady spear]

We only have these small ones because they hunt them near extinction every year

Same with the few lynx we have roaming around, they get shot every year :)))

[limber knot]

I don't mind wolves, we even get coyotes too forgot that as well. And then we have the stray dog packs as well

[heady spear]

Because one of them attacked a sheep in like 1970

[limber knot]

lol

[heady spear]

So now they have to die

[limber knot]

should keep one as a pet ;)

[heady spear]

They’re cute

[limber knot]

would be cool if I could have one

one of these days I will be able to since we plan on creating an animal sanctuary :)

it will almost be like a zoo, but not quite the same lol

[golden gust]

Is that what you're gonna tell the inspector?

[limber knot]

Which inspector o.O

[golden gust]

idk, am memin or whatever the kids call it

[limber knot]

animal sanctuary just means we are allowed to house any animals to be protected and possibly live the rest of their lives here

given we have the ability to care for such animals that are requested to be housed

Reason we want an animal sanctuary is because we want to have exotic animals where the kids can actually see them and possibly get more up close, depends on the type of animal lol

[golden gust]

I mean, you can always get close to an animal

It's whether you can walk away that's the debatable point

[limber knot]

yes, but not all animals are local either

[proud lance]

pretty sure mikroskeem stole my pfp

[limber knot]

pfp?

[limber knot]

ah lol

[woven otter]

[proud lance]

I am geniunely curious where he got it from

cause we dont share servers and I made this like a year ago

someone jacked my snoop dog emote too

[proud lance]

Hey cat pspspspsps

[trim steeple]

where is the config line that changes the anti-xray engine?

I think I have it set to mode 2 and xrayers are still working real hard

[vestal jasper]

Ctrl + F

[void void]

its at the bottom of paper.yml.

[trim steeple]

that only works in one document mate

dont have grep on windows

[void void]

yes you only need 1 document

[trim steeple]

thanks @void void

yeah I have like 15 config files so its a lot

[golden gust]

edge blocks will never be hidden, that's not exactly a cheap thing to deal with, orebfuscator might do that stuff and was updated for 1.15 somewhere iirc

[trim steeple]

dang edge blocks was what I wanted to hide

I have a large server render distance so the perf hit might be kinda hard @ electronic cat ?

[golden gust]

please don't ping

I have no idea how impactful it is, it's not going to perform was as papers anti-xray given that it tracks more stuff, but, it's generally fine

[trim steeple]

the line of sight computations might be computationally hard

if only they could put them on a different thread

[void void]

wot

[trim steeple]

Ideally I want to hide ores unless there is a direct line of sight with them

[limber knot]

thats nearly impossible

[stiff yarrow]

sounds like it would harm performance

[unreal quarry]

uh.. thats going to be expensive as fuck.. ok, lets say your view distance is the default 10. that means there are 21x21 chunks loaded. thats about 1.8 million blocks loaded. For shits and giggles (and easy math) lets say the FOV is set to 45. this means we can divide that loaded area into 6 cones of view (up/down/n/s/e/w). that means, at any given time that player has 301k blocks in their viewport. which means thats 301k raytraces to determine if there is a line of sight to apply xray or not per block.. smfh

and thats per player, per tick

🤯

[void void]

[shell vine]

do it

[void void]

also ?? what about ores in the peripheral

oh billy took that into account

45 fov

who plays that low tho

[unreal quarry]

Worse case, just ignore fov and raytrace all 1.8 million blocks lol

[void void]

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean...occlusion takes care of a lot of it

realistically you only need a surface scan

wait, what actually are "edge blocks"

just to make sure i'm understanding the issue correctly here

we talking about shit on the wall of a cave or something right, where it already borders air?

[shell vine]

[void void]

who's good at math because im mathtarded

https://f.jacob.engineer/SIy13m.png how the fuck do you do c

[static badge]

do u know wat a tanget line is

[void void]

i mean

its that thing

that touches 1 point

on the curve

[static badge]

it's a line with the slope equal to the derivative of f(a) that passes through f(a) at a

[void void]

:^) idk wat fak that is. im only calc 1. barely passed precalc

[static badge]

u know what a derivative is?

[void void]

no

[latent valve]

F

[void void]

we just started, idk should i know that?

[static badge]

oh

[tawdry coyote]

bruh simple

u guessed the slope

[static badge]

simple u answered b

[tawdry coyote]

plug that slope into the line equation

[void void]

oh really

i just guessed on b because that's where its going

[vivid oyster]

Should I ignore the .idea files from sending to my github for my server's code?

[void void]

they're ide settings

so depends on you

[vivid oyster]

Yea i dont care for them to go there

[void void]

then ignore them

bruh @tawdry coyote plug it in where

what the fak

if i do that i get 0/0 dont i

[tawdry coyote]

you know what the equation of any general line is?

[void void]

yea y=mx+b lol

[tawdry coyote]

mhm

plus your slope for m

*plug

[void void]

yea i got m = 2.000000, y = 7, x = -2

so i put -2 = 2(7) + b? lmao. that's wrong

[static badge]

no not really

err

almost right

[vivid oyster]

wait can i just delete them out of GitKraken?

@void void

[void void]

please dont ping me

yes you can, then push, then add to .gitignore and push that so they dont get added again

i guess

[unreal quarry]

@vivid oyster just make a .gitignore and add your .idea directory to it so git ignores it

[void void]

he already pushed it

[vivid oyster]

no

not yet

wait

yes i did

[tawdry coyote]

Mmk so you know the equation is is y = mx +b right. You know the m = 2. Plug in the point and solve for b, then that will get you the full equation. If that's not what it's asking for then idfk

[vivid oyster]

shit

[unreal quarry]

so do a hard reset, fix up your gitignore, then force push

[void void]

alright well ill be back later. idfk. i gotta go to class now.

love not understanding what im learning

[vivid oyster]

Thats a lot to do billy

You mean delete repo and all

[void void]

no

[unreal quarry]

wat.

no

lol

[tawdry coyote]

wdym deleting the repo solves all problems

runs

[vivid oyster]

wym by "hard reset" lol

i dont believe i have done a hard reset

[unreal quarry]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9529078/how-do-i-use-git-reset-hard-head-to-revert-to-a-previous-commit

you dont want to reset to HEAD, tho, since you already pushed. reset to a commit before that push

[true canyon]

Hey you guys, stop making garbage! 😛

[vestal jasper]

idek what the fuck he's talking about

[static badge]

what'd we do this time boys

[vestal jasper]

I took a few looks and don't see anything relevant to what he's talking about

nor has he actually said what the issues are

just that there are issues

[acoustic pilot]

probably another anarchy owner upset about some patched dupe or something lol

[latent valve]

Imagine wanting to ruining the economy with unpatch the dupe 🤦‍♀️

[shell vine]

gotta love when ppl blame paper for things that paper doesnt do then classify paper as dangerous and unsupported

[true canyon]

Well... https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/2169

First time I've jokingly shared something and later been shown at least an actual ticket so that's neat.

As usual it's all Z's fault.

[shell vine]

o is it actually papers fault

[true canyon]

I don't know if it truly is, but there's at least a ticket with reproductions steps provided which goes well beyond a lot of complaints I see

[vestal jasper]

the fact that the author says it happens in vanilla as well makes me think it isn't paper

[true canyon]

Confusingly though while saying they'd update the issue they then say it works fine in vanilla in the issue?

That is their edit, too. Maybe a language thing

[hot copper]

am I allowed to look for plugin names here?

[proud lance]

plugin names?

[true canyon]

Check over there in the corner! I think I saw a few plugin names hiding behind the bins. Don't shine a light though; they scatter!

[vivid oyster]

what do i do here

my stuff isnt showing up but its there

[golden gust]

generally means that your project hasn't been opened properly

might take a moment, but 🤷‍♂️

I always use gradle/maven for that

[vivid oyster]

been 10 minutes lol

might just have to rename it and reopen it

or move the files in to a nother folder

[golden gust]

if that's a plugin, I'd suggest taking this as the time to look into migrating to a proper build tool

[vivid oyster]

It will be a plugin

[golden gust]

Imma go try sleep, but like, there is a plugin called "minecraft development" which will let you create a maven or gradle project

[vivid oyster]

Its not maven or gradle is the thing didnt work out because i hate using api's for some plugins i use

[golden gust]

wut?

maven/gradle are build tools, and are basically essential to the whole java ecosystem as a whole

[vivid oyster]

I know that but I still dont use them because I dont like them really if that makes sense?

Like I have plugins tied into my project in the libs folder to use in the code, I attempted adding them by their API but that didnt work out really

so i said screw it

[golden gust]

You can use system dependencies with gradle, hiiighly discouraged and broken, but tbh, some devs in thos community are just bleh

I mean, with maven

gradle lets you import jars too

[vivid oyster]

its a pain in the ass to redo this and make another github for it is the thing

[golden gust]

(recommended option is actually to deploy them to your own maven repo)

it's a case of reshuffling files around

Also, did you clone that repo and try to open it on a machine different than the one you last worked on the project on?

[vivid oyster]

Nope

I literally was working and boom they are all gone

But if I go to project files, they are all there

[golden gust]

best guess would be try to open the module settings

[golden gust]

Check your module settings, you broke the project layout or something

[vivid oyster]

you were right

I have a lot of fixing to do though lol

[golden gust]

trust me

maven/gradle is a royal ballache to pick up, but in a few weeks (it takes a while because you honestly rarely touch the poms, etc once you have stuff setup), you'll question why you ever had issues with it

It also helps deal with stupid issues like this where the project ends up going sideways, as IJ will reimport the project from the pom

[vivid oyster]

So let me ask,

Am I able to still add jar files to my lib rather than use Dependencies and Repositories in the pom

[golden gust]

Yes

You're recommended not to and to just install them to your local maven repo, but, system dependencies let you depend on jars

.g maven system dependency

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html -- Maven – Introduction to the Dependency Mechanism: "Thus, system dependencies are especially useful for resolving dependencies on artifacts which are now provided by the ..."

[vivid oyster]

I must have misread what you just said

or i had a brain fart

The reason I use .jar files is because some of them dont offer the same thing by using their api as they do using the jar file for it

[pulsar wigeon]

do you want to lose your role again jake

[golden gust]

for things like paper, etc; if you really must, build them locally and the build stuff will install it to your local repo; for anything else, there are options, system dependencies work, personally, I have a repo which I just deploy peoples stuff to

huggles the GPL

[vivid oyster]

hmm

so you recommend maven?

[golden gust]

Yes

[pulsar wigeon]

you may also want to evaluate why a distribution jar differs from the provided api jar

[golden gust]

gradle is better overall, but not really something I recommend for beginners, tbh

[pulsar wigeon]

eg. you may be using things that are meant to be internal and not part of the api, which might just break whenever the plugin updates

[vivid oyster]

So ultimately I should go with the distributed jar file then rather than the api?

[pulsar wigeon]

🤦

[golden gust]

You should always aim to use APIs

[vivid oyster]

I must have had a brain fart again

hmm

fair

[golden gust]

If your usecase doesn't fit the API, you should question if what you're doing is right and go speak to the dev of the thing

[vivid oyster]

Thats the thing, its only one jar file that has that problem

[golden gust]

They might have a better suggestion, they might even be able to expand their API to cover your usecase if they desire

[vivid oyster]

Citizens plugin

I hear its shit like the devs and offer no help

but its the besst free one out there

[pulsar wigeon]

was under the impression they had a pretty extensive api

maybe that's just their scripting support tho?

[vivid oyster]

They specifically say you wont get features using the api verses the distributed file

My project is so screwed up I'm gonna have to move to maven i guess

no choice

Would it be because I didnt let my .idea files push to the repo? Doesnt sound right but possible?

[golden gust]

That .idea folder contains info on the workspace and stuff

commiting some stuff in there is actually bad as it's specific to your environment

[vivid oyster]

So I was right by not letting it go to the public repo then?

I didnt let anything go

[golden gust]

(This is basically what maven solves)

there are gitignore file generators which cater towards ignoring the files that need to be ignored from that folder

Some stuff is specific to your system which kinda needs to be there for the project to open

[vivid oyster]

I leave everything there just dont let it go to the repo

wow that minecraft development plugin was much easier to use lol

[vivid oyster]

ok how do i add the .idea to gitignore again? I never added it just always didnt stage them and push

[limber knot]

wow

the warcraft 3 reforged is the biggest tank that blizz has ever had

I think that this is the final nail in the coffin of their reputation for making quality games

[proud lance]

when you remaster your old games thats usually when it starts

[pulsar wigeon]

what happened to it

did they fuck it up somehow

wow they did

[limber knot]

yeah

user score is currently sitting at 1.0

on metacritic

[vestal jasper]

https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/warcraft-iii-reforged

[limber knot]

that's out of 100, I've never seen any game this low

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean tbf i'm guessing a lot of that is just general blizz hate/atmosphere

[vestal jasper]

"it overwrites classic"

[pulsar wigeon]

even if it's trash it'd be a 3 or 4 prob

[limber knot]

tbf they straight up lied in advertising

and axed a shitload of existing content

and changed the TOS so custom maps are all their intellectual property

[vestal jasper]

 they merged classic into reforged, effectively forcing people to download 30GB of files to replace their old 2GB files```

[limber knot]

due to the latter they had to remove any game that had copyright infringement

which is

well

a metric shitload

RIP custom maps

also probably means dota is getting out of there

[cosmic raft]

what happened

[cosmic raft]

what are you talking about

[limber knot]

barty ever tried like reading what people are saying

[vestal jasper]

they literally nuked a fuckton of custom maps and said any maps you make are theirs

as magma noted

[limber knot]

I did, it was boring

don't forget about the false advertising

[cosmic raft]

what are you talking about

[vestal jasper]

A good portion of people play wc3 because of the custom maps / gamemodes

[cosmic raft]

??

[limber knot]

the trailers showed brand new cutscenes to improve the old ones

only 2 cutscenes were modified and one of the cutscenes in the advertising was axed

that's just straight up lying

[vestal jasper]

lol

[limber knot]

https://youtu.be/cGFPEB1DKXI?t=221

(^-^) Blizzard Makes Its Fans Angry Again With The Dodgy And Legally Grasping Warcraft 3: Reforged - length 12m 37s - 18,757 likes, 473 dislikes (97.5%) - 338,568 views - Jim Sterling on 2020.01.30

timestamped to show the false advertising

[vestal jasper]

.s/good game people didnt whine about/good game

been a while

ow is aight tho

[limber knot]

tell that to OW 2

or, as people would call it, OW 1.0001

[static badge]

ow 2

lemme make some bets about what ow 2 is gonna be

a different ui

some pve shit

same dumb balancing

and that's it

[limber knot]

it's literally OW but with a permanent pve map

[static badge]

pve *

[limber knot]

changes are for losers

[cosmic raft]

i still don't know what the fuck you are all talking about

[vestal jasper]

WARCRAFT 3 REFORGED

[static badge]

cuz ur dum af

[vestal jasper]

[cosmic raft]

.g warcraft 3 reforged

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://playwarcraft3.com/ -- Warcraft III: Reforged: "Experience the epic origin stories of Warcraft, now more stunning and evocative than ever before."

[static badge]

[limber knot]

I almost preordered wc3

[static badge]

preordering

[limber knot]

I was playing it up until I lost the cd key just a few years ago

[vestal jasper]

Warcraft 3 Reforged Refund Request Denied - Breaching Australian Consumer Law

mfw

lol

[limber knot]

now I can't even buy the old game and play my favorite custom games

literally worse than nothing

[vestal jasper]

what if you have the old but not the new

[limber knot]

they forced the changes to the old version

[vestal jasper]

oh yeah you still can't fucking play their classic games through their launcher

even if on your account

[left swift]

Blizzard

[vestal jasper]

fun fact

[static badge]

ur retarded?

[vestal jasper]

you can buy diablo 2 through the bnet launcher but you can't install it through the bnet launcher

because yeah fuck you ig

[static badge]

[limber knot]

but d2 doesn't even have microtransactions

why would you want to play it?