so how do you play it
#general
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limber knotBOT
silly stream
pulsar wigeon
i mean, that kinda makes sense
vestal jasper
you have to download the executable from your browser
limber knotBOT
you're supposed to buy t
pulsar wigeon
the game is older than your launcher
limber knotBOT
not play it
pulsar wigeon
they would have to do extra work to integrate the game into the launcher
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is it really that hard to start an executable
vestal jasper
but why fucking let me buy it on the launcher if the launcher doesn't support it, makes 0 fucking sense. there's no disclaimer saying it won't work with the launcher.
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from a launcher
limber knotBOT
and blizzard is a multibillion dollar company whose franchises are worth tens of billions on their own
vestal jasper
warcraft 3 is like 17 years old
limber knotBOT
surely they can afford to put their own games on their own platform
cosmic raft
I don't waste time on playing games by blizzard
vestal jasper
it predates WoW
limber knotBOT
jesus kash
limber knotBOT
WoW was built on top of warcraft 3
in a fairly literal sense
iirc even used all the same assets and engine at the start
limber knotBOT
it's warcraft 3 remastered
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kash is 10 mins behind 
cosmic raft
ok im going to go watch the new Grey's Anatomy episode
you all continue with this blizzard shit
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that shit is still going?
vestal jasper
fun fact the expansion for wc3, frozen throne, is the story of how arthas became the lich king
acoustic pilot
blizzard is big dum
vestal jasper
leaf did they ever fuck off with the retarded 10 shields per team bullshit
merry talon
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alright which one of you is the genius here
I'm gonna take a fat guess
it's the WE boi
vestal jasper
got the invite link ready once I'm purged
vestal jasper
nice
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they thought about doing 1-3-2 instead of 2-2-2
merry talon
they nerfed shields tho
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they're still pretty good
limber knotBOT
I completely lost interest on OW once they got rid of comp stacking
pulsar wigeon
wut
limber knotBOT
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forcing 2-2-2 just made me never open the game again
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retarded
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hero banning really is retarded
merry talon
they arent doing that
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let's put in more shit to decide your game at the start
merry talon
they're doing hero pools
limber knotBOT
I don't play QP because half the people in QP have their hands on their dicks instead of on the mouse
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what's your SR magma
limber knotBOT
I want people who are actually looking at the monitor and not just afk
merry talon
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come on magma what's your SR
merry talon
bronze
limber knotBOT
I don't have an SR stream did you miss the part where I left when they got rid of stacking
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probably wiz tbh
merry talon
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limber knotBOT
I think I was in high gold when the changes hit for what it's worth, but actually playing that kind of game for a rank is pants on head retarded
merry talon
g 
ld
limber knotBOT
I just played comp because it's the one gamemode where the team is actually pretending to look at the screen and using comms
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look lemme tell u something magma
ur not gonna like it
but nobody in gold knows what they're doing
vestal jasper
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so why are you complaining
acoustic pilot
loool
limber knotBOT
stream let me tell u something
acoustic pilot
mad cuz bad
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cuz u certainly don't
limber knotBOT
playing ranked for a rank is retarded
vestal jasper
I just played comp because it's the one gamemode where the team is actually pretending to look at the screen and using comms
acoustic pilot
which is full of shit tier players
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for the shitty players
limber knotBOT
because QP is where people go to fuck around
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I told ya
limber knotBOT
which is fine
limber knotBOT
I just checked
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besides 2-2-2 is pretty 
limber knotBOT
I had 2400 at my highest sr
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tank and support is just really really good in this game
u know
u could probably take baptiste
REMOVE HIS HEALING
and he'd be a very good dps
merry talon
yeah bap is retarded
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cuz of that invul shit
supports just have stacked af abilities
and then u get tanks which can be dps
limber knotBOT
comp was fun because people actually played as a team, QP is full of people just trying to learn new moves and not really giving a shit about objectives and such
merry talon
both tank and supp
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your tanks are dps
merry talon
are better dps than dps
limber knotBOT
also only place where people actually used comms which was one of my favorite parts of OW
early days comms were pretty glorious
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2-2-2 didn't really change competitive 
it just nuked some really stupid fucking comps
1-3-2 probably sucks because of how the tanks are setup
merry talon
somehow i feel like ur a bit biased here
merry talon
i just want dive meta back
proven lodge
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dive
limber knotBOT
2-2-2 changed comp massively
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explain
vestal jasper
fuck it I'm gonna play and feed
limber knotBOT
used to be that when the tank or healer were shit you could just swap
vestal jasper
uhhh I'm garbage, leaf
acoustic pilot
pretty sure 2-2-2 is what comp already was for the most part
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I'm plat
limber knotBOT
now if they're shit you might as well go take a smoke break
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plat is garbage
vestal jasper
I haven't even played in like 4 months
acoustic pilot
which is why 2-2-2 was chosen
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let's go
vestal jasper
comp q?
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ye
merry talon
i prefer getting shitty supports than none at all tho
vestal jasper
I don't have an SR rn so we can prob q
vestal jasper
gimme a few min or my cat is gonna fucking slice my neck open
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yeah the people who really didn't want to or felt like they were forced
you think those fuckers are gonna be gud
compared to the people who queue it?
limber knotBOT
never an issue for me sweepy because I'm not a retard who can't fill roles when the team needs it
I always filled the missing role
merry talon
you realize you're only one person
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did you just call me sweepy
limber knotBOT
yeah
merry talon
5 dps was commonplace
limber knotBOT
not you stream
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people complaining and tilting about reeeeee need tank support was more commonplace
limber knotBOT
guess what sweepy
when I stopped playing it was also just one person that stopped playing
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limber knotBOT
if it's not fun to me regardless of the reason I'll just stop doing it
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a true philosopher
merry talon
i do not wholly agree with role lock because it stifles those creative comps
limber knotBOT
implying that I shouldn't complain or stop playing because it doesn't affect a wider audience is fucking retarded
merry talon
goats was more fun to play than the current situation
i know u dont care because one trick
but ur a minority
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just go brigitte 4head
merry talon
much better than bap
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look ill admit bias cuz uh double shield really blows for widow
merry talon
no kap
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but really goats is just 
limber knotBOT
can't do 6 bastion anymore, can't even do all dps or all tank or all support anymore, why play
merry talon
you can do that in arcade
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u want people to play seriously but u want all dps?
limber knotBOT
I want people to look at the screen and use comms while they play
acoustic pilot
damn, a competitive game has balancing mechanics?
i'm shocked
literally unplayable.
limber knotBOT
I don't mind if the team decides it's time for some clown shit
and I won quite a few matches with those stacked builds btw
it wasn't even that hard
acoustic pilot
you can win with anything at gold
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except with byteflux
acoustic pilot
the same shit compositions aren't going to work at higher tiers
limber knotBOT
then why ban them byte
merry talon
because clowns will try them anyway
limber knotBOT
could it be that it's because they would work
merry talon
and ruin it for everyone else
limber knotBOT
and blizzard doesn't want to have to balance their game
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easier to balance a game around 2-2-2 than otherwise
vestal jasper
the less variables the easier
acoustic pilot
the mainstream comp had already gravitated towards 2-2-2 by that time
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so play qp if u want dumb shit
limber knotBOT
I already said 5 times why I don't play qp
limber knotBOT
no, because people are afk and don't use comms
limber knotBOT
you understand that these two things aren't actually what makes comp right
acoustic pilot
gold comp vs gold QP, what's the diff? 😛
limber knotBOT
I don't even necessarily want them to use comms for callouts or anything like that, just so that it feels like we're playing with humans and not just bots
what's the point of playing a team game if you never hear from your team
acoustic pilot
classic QP is there if you wanna stack, comms still works if you wanna use it.
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people who wanna try at the game are in competitive
you evidently want people trying
but you also don't want to try
limber knotBOT
meh whatever
I already explained myself
if you're too dum to understand go back to school
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ur dum
acoustic pilot
plenty of reasons to hate on OW but role queue and no hero stacking are way at the bottom of the list, if at all on it 😛
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goats 
limber knotBOT
depends on what you played the game for in the first place
I mean most people that got mad at comp stacking going away left the game ages ago like me
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silence, gold
limber knotBOT
oh no my feels
vestal jasper
leaf u ok
acoustic pilot
i mostly only play deathmatch, i'll prob quit if they change it too much but i won't be too upset because i know that's not what the game is designed around or trying to be about
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ye am seeing if aquarium is low enough
limber knotBOT
man if you think my OW rank is bad just wait until you see my cs:go rank
I don't even have one
merry talon
2
limber knotBOT
-1
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I think one of these accounts is gold :L
vestal jasper
my last SR was like 1500
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gold is in range
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tbh idk what my support even is
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no access to it
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nah am playing ana
merry talon
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you know I did my placemens on mercy
merry talon
well she can just be afk basically
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ye get on
pulsar wigeon
hey leaf u excited for OW2
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no
stiff yarrow
went to a beginner swing lesson today and they were teaching balboa 
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void void
left swift
limber knotBOT
man I could use some cocaine rn
ember crag
I'd settle for a beer
cosmic raft
sigh
void void
wats wrong kash
cosmic raft
oh nothing
void void
me
quasi valley
you are very wrong, simple 
void void
wat
void void
you need to explain what im wrong about, yes
quasi valley
You asked what’s wrong, kash answered „nothing“, you answered „me“
Now it’s even more unfunny than before thanks simple
quasi valley
gud nait
rancid timber
java -Xms4G -Xmx6500M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=100 -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90 -XX:G1NewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=35 -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -Dusing.aikars.flags=mcflags.emc.gs -jar PaperMC1.15.2#84.jar
I use this to start my server
But when jvm require max size heap, my server stop the world so long s.t. i guess maybe that's the gc issue? But spark says i don't need so much Memory...? This is /spark healthreport --memory at the time. If i set Xms=Xmx=6500M, will this problem be resolved? or this may be the prob of some plugins?
cedar spade
hi kenny
quasi valley
hello pineapple
heady spear
Hi pepperionoz
serene bolt
🤔
heady spear
dying is hella expensive apparently. If you’re planning on dying then leave some money saved up for it because hell
We have to call the state to see if they can cover cremation costs etc
serene bolt
The burden of arrangements is pretty significant, for both the actual death and all the left overs (property, possessions, etc)
heady spear
Getting someone to evaluate and sell off possessions would cost more than the possessions
vestal jasper
iirc it's illegal to die in some parts of alaska
heady spear
I guess my brother and I will have to roll a die to see who gets what
heady spear
For context, my dad decided to go die and now there’s a mess and a half to deal with
Isn’t that on Svalbard?
vestal jasper
limber knotBOT
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heady spear
Due to the permafrost, so corpses don’t decompose and it’s a mess and a half
vestal jasper
yeah
you're expected to die elsewhere
if you're terminal you're flown south? north?
iirc south
heady spear
If you go north you end up in the actual North Pole
Idk what Santa is going to do with a dying person
heady spear
No one tells you how to deal with dead parents. Like, there’s so much to do
They’re giving us access to his bank accounts. Ima be $5 richer.
They also called us and ruled out murder, which was after they confirmed that he died of natural causes. So no one murdered him after he died
That was a weird phone call
serene bolt
uhhhh what lol maybe i'm missing the context but was this some gruesome death or something
vestal jasper
tbh it's not even the body itself that's the problem
it's the fact that you have germs and stuff in you
and for some of the bodies there: a deadly flu strain that had a 20% kill rate
heady spear
No, he died of a heart attack. But apparently someone thought it needed investigating
Uni let’s me stay home for a couple of days, fucking mint.
void void
[1:57 AM] Dowd: pretty sure mikroskeem stole my pfp
i did
@proud lance
however you sent it as an emote before
unreal quarry
mfw fiona apple comes across my youtube playlist and i'm reminded just how fucking old I am... last time i saw her was on mtv and she looked much older to me then. now she looks like a child in this video lol
vestal jasper
test
limber knotBOT
U failed
vestal jasper
thanks
mellow torrent
spark canopy
rare crow
rugged steppe
woven otter
Hi ho
golden gust
it's off to work we go
woven otter
pastel skiff
What plugin do people use for warp portals? Also multi world warps I want to make a warp thats like two blocks of water
unreal quarry
i made my own portal plugin that lets players build portals to the wild world, similar to how they build portals to the nether
unreal quarry
it is, but its useless to everyone else. it will only work on purpur (my fork of paper)
pastel skiff
okay nws
pastel skiff
okay thnx
pastel skiff
got it
spark canopy
whats the best version for low ram machines? I have a 1gb server and 400-800mb is used even with 1 player on 1.15.2
limber knotBOT
beta 1.8
unreal quarry
magma, i literally copy pasted the nether portal code lol, i doubt its "like stargates"
limber knotBOT
that's basically what stargates sort of do
nether portals but not linked to the nether
golden gust
in part, that's how memory in java works
Saying that, the further back you go, the more performance you'll get, bar 1.14, saying that, only 1.15.2 is supported
limber knotBOT
1gb is just not enough my man
unless you want a pure vanilla server with 1 person in it and still might have some performance issues
spark canopy
i just want to play vanilla with 4-5 people max
limber knotBOT
everyplayer won't need additional 500 mb :p
you're good with 1gig for 5 people
maybe 2
5 people?
do you want them to stand next to each other?
either that or you'll need a superflat world
limber knotBOT
it's exponentially better and you might get away with it
I mean, if you don't set your view distance to 200 and have all 5 flying around with speed 200, 2 gigs are alright
and if you don't want plugins, again
spark canopy
the only plugin that i have are graves and tab menu
is dynmap hard to run on the server
limber knotBOT
don't put dynmap on your 2gb server
limber knotBOT
.optimize
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/
woven otter
kenny ur irc name is wrong
woven otter
O upsidedown man does something right for once
latent valve
limber knotBOT
yes can someone push duck underwater please
woven otter
ducks can't drown
latent valve
Well lets see
woven otter
no let's not
limber knotBOT
not with that attitude
man what the fuck is up with nordvpn's latency
for some reason the desktop client adds massive latency even when it's supposedly off, so odd
woven otter
is this an ad
limber knotBOT
yeah it's reverse psychology where I say something doesn't work correctly and you go buy it to see if I'm saying the truth
limber knotBOT
speaking of which
RAID SHADOW LEGENDS IS A 3D MMORPG WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU'D EXPECT FROM A BRAND NEW RPG
limber knotBOT
did you know it has over 10 million bots
the most depressing part about the ad script is that it's always over 10 million players even though the advertisements have surely reached hundreds of millions of people by this point
everytime I see a youtuber I like promoting that, I just completely die on the inside
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
When you surf the web, people can see what you're doing!
golden gust
I for example, don't want my ISP lurking on my hentai spells, so, I'd like to think my next sponsor
ShillVPN, it's like a condom for your web traffic!
limber knotBOT
I spoof my traffic by searching for all of my porn through the irc google bot
😂
.g degenerate handholding
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aw yeah that's the stuff
ziiiip
golden gust
Hnnnngh
limber knotBOT
oh shit it went all over they keyboard again
that didn't take long, did it
not my fault it's so lewd
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/555/132/3b3.gif wait, that's illegal
pulsar wigeon
what lewd debauchery is this place up to today
short yarrow
hypixel's replay system is pretty cool
i wonder how something like t hat works. specifically replaying player movement and combat
void void
limber knotBOT
they obviously have a video recorder of every player and then replay those mp4 files in an ingame videoplayer
also very thoughtful of you to translate that for me, cat 🐋
pulsar wigeon
hydraxus, there's a replay mod you can install in your client and do the same thing
just capture packets and replay
(well, i say "same thing" but tbh i have no clue what hypixel's does)
lean hamlet
pulsar wigeon
chunk-based 🚮
ui would be snazzy tho
i don't think a single other plugin has ever come close to WG's region flexibility
and then he says "Nah, it is powerful" in response to be asking if things only work on a chunk basis
despite saying one post earlier that it's chunk based
and all the screenshots of the ui only showing chunk-based claims
twin lagoon
that's way too complex imo
pulsar wigeon
what is
upper flicker
so cat is today the day you start sleeping on my couch or what?
cosmic raft
i'm on your couch already z
upper flicker
I have more than one couch, it's alright there's room
queen rapids
im on that other couch already
cosmic raft
evict him, z
upper flicker
looks like Ill have to buy more couches
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
@golden gust ^
woven otter
MARINA ❤️
fallen oracle
Dang. A CP update. Is this real?
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It's pretty poggers
pulsar wigeon
a wut
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CoreProtect dumfuk
mossy ravine
fleet gulch
limber knotBOT
KennyTV: yay
foorcee seriously asked me why I would remove lombok :aaa:
but yea, gone :p VV has ... quite a lot of lombok usage tho, that'd probably require other black magic to remove the black magic (delombok)
hehe
who is foorcee
ah, another (more sporadic) Via contributor who I often talk to outside of Via
VV is rude
it's stupid that you can't view data from anything outside of the main branch in GH
so trick 17 is to set that in a fork: https://github.com/KennyTV/ViaVersion/graphs/contributors shows you :p
limber knotBOT
gud day sir
viral estuary
runic wharf
zealous knot
This man right here has dedi issues
upper flicker
Windows 95 best hosting os
latent valve
TempleOS ^^^^ do it
crystal compass
im hoping this Ryzen 5 3600x will do me some good
compared to the i7-4790k that I have rn lol
elfin temple
limber knotBOT
so specific, as always :p
fallen jungle
I had no idea KennyTV was working on Via
slender dawn
woven otter
I had no idea Kenny was a 1.8.x supporter
limber knotBOT
sometimes you need to make compromises for the greater goal
but seriously, without VB (or PS for that matter) I wouldn't be able to make a 1.15 server with our already present community waiting for our release 👀
and uh, it's fun nonetheless 🐋
cosmic raft
left swift
Spooky
golden gust
"No job is complete without an idiot check, test run, and ceremonial concealment of leftover bolts"
left swift
Crazy
ember crag
cosmic raft
off to work
quasi valley
off to watch a movie
void void
[9:02 PM] BOTkashike: JDK 13 doesn't allow JDK 5 classes \o/
hmmm
i hope that better generics arrive some day tbh...
pulsar wigeon
i mean, valhalla
void void
limber knotBOT
Let's get the other stuff delievered first
14 has some nice stuff already
Pattern matching, switch expressions, records, text blocks etc
Oh and helpful npes
helpful npes? that's illegal
upper flicker
I thought someone said the helpful npes were off by default in 14
there was a ticket for enabling them by default in 15
but that kinda made me sad
limber knotBOT
where is the option to have the error just say "error"
upper flicker
use c
The feature can be toggled with the new boolean command-line option -XX:{+|-}ShowCodeDetailsInExceptionMessages. The option will first have default 'false' so that the message is not printed. It is intended to enable code details in exception messages by default in a later release.
RIP that
limber knotBOT
Gonna shove that in my docker images
twin lagoon
yes it is
that depends on the type of hosting though
are we talking about OVH's dedicated server?
or some shared hosting / VPS
zealous knot
It varies on so many things that that question is fucking stupid
proud lance
its not a dumb question if you are asking is it a good processor for a dedicated
context does matter though
twin lagoon
if we're assuming a dedicated server, the i7-7700k is fine
zealous knot
What if he's secretly the owner of hypixel and wants to host all of hypixel on that CPU?
twin lagoon
then he wouldn't be in this discord
proud lance
The owners of hypixel wouldn't be coming here
zealous knot
Hypothetically, i know it's not realistic for shit
twin lagoon
kek
zealous knot
but say his server was on that scale
spiral sigil
proud lance
then he still wouldn't be asking that question, cause thats a scaling question
zealous knot
I do agree with dowd though, i guess if more context is provided a safe assumption can be made
i dunno, i still fell you'd have to be pretty specific to really get a feel for whether your CPU is good enough or not
proud lance
whats going to determine if its a good cpu or not will be its single thread performance, if you are talking about increasing more players at that point, the only thing you can do is add more machines, in which case the same rules apply as the first one
zealous knot
Well when i mentioned hypixel i didn't specifically talk about players, i was more aiming in the direction of all the events and the large world sizes and shit like that
proud lance
I dont know about hypixels setup, but if it were me, I would just get a bunch of machines with the best single thread performance and link them together, either break it up into different worlds, or have a custom setup made wherein they share one world, but portions of each world are stored on different servers, but that isn't an easy thing to build I would imagine
and also probably would annoy players a bit
cause they move between chunks and get a loading screen lmfao
olive garden
correct me if I'm wrong, but Hypixel doesn't have huge worlds
zealous knot
trust me i weighed them, many many tons
golden gust
single core performance is irrelevant when you're at hypickles scale, you're not hammering huge amounts of players on a single server, you're scaling sideways
proud lance
when you say scaling sideways, you mean more machines?
woven otter
@quasi valley is it bee movie
proud lance
you could always just go with more cores I guess
but the quality of those cores goes down
pulsar wigeon
stiff yarrow
Remember the windows 98SE elitists
woven otter
oh cool
quasi valley
Because a friend randomly asked, hey do you want to watch a random action movie, and we were like „HELL YEA“ 😂
half willow
stiff yarrow
twin lagoon
you're not giving enough information then
how many cores, what virtualization technology is being used
golden gust
it means that instead of piling people up on a singular instance, they spread them across a few hundred instances
stiff yarrow
wait is ow2 real 
ancient bolt
I just had a scary thought
quasi valley
Yes, a client update and dlc as an extra full priced title
ancient bolt
At some point mid next-month I'm going to update my arch linux machine after not being updated for over a month and a half
left swift
Good luck
upper flicker
I've been kinda doing that after not updating for 2-3 weeks at a time
I havent noticed any breakage yet
then again it wasnt a month and a half either
ancient bolt
hmm, well hopefully my luck won't break
I've been getting really lucky the past few weeks
upper flicker
just peruse the arch news for changes they felt like talking about in the last two months
those are usually the big ones
ancient bolt
speaking of updates why the fuck does it take macbooks so long to update, jesus
stiff yarrow
@ancient bolt I did that after 2 months, had to update yay in some lame way as well
ancient bolt
30 minutes for a system update
stiff yarrow
ancient bolt
well mac time expected upgrade times tend to actually be accurate at least
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someone explained this at one point, apparently apple's updating system is weird
ancient bolt
can't say that about windows updates
upper flicker
something about the way they push updates and how its fewer, they dont spend as much time making it fast because theoretically you shouldnt be doing it all that often
stiff yarrow
I never thought about the length of time the macbook takes to update but since you point it out it is quite long
ancient bolt
I need to find a way of making my /etc/pam.d/sudo edit to allow touchid sudo to stick through upgrades
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I cant remember if it delved into technical stuff as well or just that handwavey thing
stiff yarrow
OW2 looks so similar to OW1
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ow 1.001
ancient bolt
yeah they probably focus a lot more on file integrity and making sure all writes are successful etc etc
estimated time just jumped down to 13 minutes so that's nice
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that update where they moved everyone over from hfs+ to apfs though
that was a doozy
took forever
but it didnt really break much
so good on them for integrity and QA?
stiff yarrow
I can't even tell its not OW1 watching this gameplay trailer
ancient bolt
sad day, my favorite google+ post of all time is linus bitching about hfs+
upper flicker
lol that was an excellent rant though
does that mean ntfs is now the last clown filesystem?
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torvald rants
ancient bolt
isn't OW2 just updated models and an updated engine? It's closer to a classic blizzard expansion pack tbh
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yeah
ancient bolt
probably easier for them to just market it as a separate game though
stiff yarrow
ntfs 🤡
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with a focus on pve
stiff yarrow
just never update or change your filesystem, why bother 
ancient bolt
yeah and I think ntfs will be with us for a long time unfortunately
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yeah it will
ancient bolt
there's like 35 years of backwards compatibility riding on microsoft not changing it...
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nt 
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stiff yarrow
isn't it already like 19+ years old
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refs was bumped back down to a "datacenter archive" file format
ancient bolt
some windows services are compatible with DOS APIs that pre-date windows
it's fucking nuts
ancient bolt
yeah this 2019 16" macbook pro makes me really want a 2020 16" macbook pro
it runs my 5K external monitor they gave me just fine, and it has the base GPU. The base GPU on my 2017 macbook can barely power the built-in display
stiff yarrow
I have a macbook pro from 2019 August
stiff yarrow
did they do a big upgrade?
stiff yarrow
lame
ancient bolt
they fixed the keyboard and battery and screen
ancient bolt
battery life is like more than twice as good as my 2017 model
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mods can we fix the spam here
ancient bolt
keyboard is leaps and bounds better
stiff yarrow
ancient bolt
because they aren't using butterfly switches anymore
stiff yarrow
the keyboard is my #1 complaint
ancient bolt
they made the bezels smaller and increased the screen to 16"
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tbh if my keyboard broke I'd probably get it fixed then turn around and sell it
upper flicker
but it still works fine for me so idk cant really justify that expenditure, even if I do sell it and get it back
ancient bolt
they made it a few millimeters thicker and heavier to improve airflow and increase the battery size to the largest battery that the FAA allows to fly
stiff yarrow
actually I replaced that KB now that I think about it
after the second solder job I was like time for a new KB
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yeah I havent had any issues with my keyboard
stiff yarrow
tbh the macbook pro 2019 does feel slow
I like the touchbar tho
I'm using a KB kashike recommended
ancient bolt
my B key double presses, that's my only issue
stiff yarrow
daskey something
ancient bolt
but I hate the arrow keys
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think we've had... one or two at work go back out of a few hundred
ancient bolt
they fixed the arrow keys though
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still kinda ridiculous for what they cost but not crazy
yes arrows and escape are nice
ancient bolt
daskeyboard, it's what I have at home and at work
ancient bolt
yeah they brought the escape key back and touchid is separate from the touchbar
looks a little better
stiff yarrow
ancient bolt
the CPU and GPU are better
ancient bolt
2 biggest things for me are the keyboard and battery though
my 2017 model does not have very good battery life
stiff yarrow
my 2019 model is kind of lame mayeb I should sell it
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my 2017's battery is fine
stiff yarrow
sell 2019 get 2020
ancient bolt
and I appreciate the machine being a little bit thicker for better airflow
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I like that thought process change
ancient bolt
last night I was using both machines side by side and after an hour my macbook dropped by 20% and the 2019 model was still in the 90s
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like hey not everything needs to be so thin it cuts paper
ancient bolt
the extra weight feels really satisfying tbh, but not so much heavier that it's a pain to carry
vestal jasper
Tacos and naps sound good rn
stiff yarrow
buying another macbook though sounds a bit $$$ even if I sell the old one
ancient bolt
I had tacos a few days ago that were just fine
not great, but fine
tacos that are just fine are like
golden gust
has a flashback to that one time he accidentally hit his mate with a thinkpad
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oof
was it an old thinkpad before they started making the ultrabook style ones?
those things were amazing... and chonk
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how do you accidentally beat someone with a thinkpad
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oi
ancient bolt
Is this like one of those anime things
where you """slipped"""
and it went flying and just happened to hit him dirrectly in the face
golden gust
Nah, I was mocking hitting one of my other mates and she moved in the day
*in the way
ancient bolt
oh no my R key is double pressing now
golden gust
So, technically, it's her fault
limber knotBOT
The ultrabook ones are still pretty chonk
zealous knot
Guys don't tell me you've never hit someone with a thinkpad
Honestly i do this like 2 or 3 times a week
ancient bolt
I need to bring my machine to the apple store and get it fixed for free before they start charging for that
limber knotBOT
It's not like the old ones were someone apparently demo'ed it by tossing it from the second floor of a warehouse down to the concrete floor below but they're way more sturdy than your average windows laptop
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electro beat some girl down with a thinkpad
zealous knot
yeah so what
ancient bolt
I need to bring my machine to the apple store and get it fixed for free before they start charging for that
zealous knot
i do it all the time
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brexit really boiling over across the pond apparently
zealous knot
LOL
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send an empty chunk
zealous knot
emptyChunk.send()
ancient bolt
use worldedit and delete a chunk
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I'm being serious
limber knotBOT
Correction, <Amaranth> Oh yeah like 2 hours until Brexit, right?
ancient bolt
Amaranth yeah it's really sad
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so you don't know
limber knotBOT
The packet format for chunks is... complicated
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https://wiki.vg/Main_Page has basically all the packet spec you'll need
limber knotBOT
Although I guess if it's empty it'll be pretty simple
And if you're using protocollib or mojang packet classes you don't have to worry about that part
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probably something to do with chunks?
merry talon
nah it can't be that
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back from 12hrs of ow are you sweepy
merry talon
ancient bolt
I wonder if Sweepy crawled out of cardboard league yet
merry talon
Thats rich coming from you
fast tapir
Does anyone here know anything about craftimize? What do they do to "guarantee server optimization"? Apparently they can make block placement, player movement, and mob ai work on a second CPU core
Except it costs like $900 USD...
left swift
Lol
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well one of the authors used to sit in here and PM people randomly telling them to use it
then got in an argument with one of our contributors about how little work they did
vestal jasper
Oh this is paper not sponge. I can say it sounds retarded.
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despite the fact that craftimize literally doesnt contribute anything to the community
so yeah even before we get to technical arguments 🚮
fast tapir
I'm just curious how they pull that off.
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you can do quite a bit if you a) break shit and b) dont care that you break shit
and those claims havent really been validated
but I digress
left swift
They removed all chunk loading and entities in the game
Anything you need will just appear in ur ing
Inv
fast tapir
I don't think so
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oofers
vestal jasper
The server is a simple mostly empty while loop. 4 million tps. Ultimate performance.
Nothing ticks. There is no networking.
golden gust
as z said, a lot of stuff can be thrown onto another thread pretty easily if you don't care about the safety or the potential for breaking stupid things
The horror is really in maintaining all of that mess and dealing with what it does break
fast tapir
Interesting
vestal jasper
Just saw a woman walking her dog past my window. My window is below ground level.
fast tapir
It just peaked my interest with how many servers they've worked with like EarthMC, 2b2t, and Desteria. I haven't noticed anything different gameplay wise from them
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2b2t guys sends me emails asking for help with paper
not sure when they used it but uh
apparently they're cheating on both of us
vestal jasper
They've worked with 2b2t. Doesn't mean the work was worth it tho.
fast tapir
lol
proud spindle
Captain Marvel was a stupid movie
fast tapir
Probably was, they've gotta make bank selling priority queue for $20 a month to hundreds of little kids
golden gust
Would be interesting to find out the story, lol
vestal jasper
Z breaking NDA 
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oh it shouldve said "guy" not guys
golden gust
what TPS is 2b running at?
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what NDA are you talking about
left swift
I'm making the thread on Reddit now z
vestal jasper
Idk
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I havent signed an NDA in years
left swift
U fucked up
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well not one for MC anyway
fast tapir
I think like 10 tps with 225 people last I checked
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is there an r/breakingNDAs or something
vestal jasper
"paper lead confirms multiple 2b2t admins - the story will shock you"
left swift
Probably
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they way the emails were sent makes me think it is just one dude
just a misstype sorry
golden gust
I mean, the craftimize guy got in a paddy last I said that 2b pretty much never maintains 20 TPS
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then again, its email, how would I really know
left swift
Blink twice if they've kidnapped you
vestal jasper
Z on full damage control rn
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lmao
fast tapir
True
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shhh
fast tapir
What is the theoretical max players you can have at 20 tps?
limber knotBOT
golden gust
depends
fast tapir
Assuming you are in 1.12.2
golden gust
general gist is that you have sub 50ms to complete a tick
vestal jasper
The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?
golden gust
I've ran servers with 100 players before they started buckling on 1.8, before I knew fuck all about performance, etc
I've seen servers hit 80+ on 1.15.2 with 20 tps
fast tapir
I'm running 1.13.2 and with perfect conditions I can have 60 people at 20 tps but that's best possible
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People have gone further on 1.13.2, granted not much
golden gust
i mean, 1.13 is better than 1.14 and 1.15
if you're hitting it at 60 players, that's probably hardware/plugins/configuration
fast tapir
Yeah I'm too afraid to update past 1.13
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the days of "I just ran the 1.6 jar and look at these 100 players with farms" are pretty well over though
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fast tapir
Im using Ryzen 5 3600x
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well unless that rust based rewrite takes off and is actually, you know performant and scalable
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there's a rust rewrite?
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.g mcserver rust
golden gust
somebody was rewriting mc as a microservice :L
limber knotBOT
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and its not usable for survival afaik
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ah yes
quasi valley
Isn’t there 39 projects writing a server in rust
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hematite or something?
fast tapir
Rustmc
orchid raft
just a quick question is paper 1.15.2 is the same as .1 stability wise ?
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yes
orchid raft
ty
quasi valley
But even better ™️
orchid raft
boom ^^^^^
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should be unless there's another one of my diffs not accounted for
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there's at least one right?
limber knotBOT
hematite was neat for the client part
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hematite is dead
not the one I was thinking of
this was the one i was thinking of https://github.com/feather-rs/feather
never used, dont run in prod and @ me
limber knotBOT
Yeah but the client part was still neat, as of the version of MC it supported the client rendered the world exactly like vanilla did
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I never used the client part, pretty impressive they managed that
limber knotBOT
Had to get all the client-side randomness matched up for that
It wasn't really a client though, just a world viewer
Hehe, all of the major rewrites/refactorings in feather are around the ECS
Aww, but the last one is removing usage of specs in favor of their own custom ECS implementation
specs development moved to the amethyst engine folks then they got basically conned on a new ECS being better for them and dropped specs development to try to switch to it
Then it turns out the new one is insanely unsafe and the only trivial way to make it safe also makes it basically impossible to use
proud spindle
That's always fin
limber knotBOT
Oh feather is moving to legion too
vivid oyster
Are the plugins PacketListenerAPI and ProtocolLib the same basically?
vestal jasper
They perform similar tasks
vivid oyster
Reason I ask is because I cant find away to add PacketListenerAPI into maven with dependencies and repositories
Like they dont show it
vestal jasper
.g packetlistenerapi maven
limber knotBOT
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golden gust
their image is broken
vestal jasper
Bot ur useless
golden gust
but literally click it
fast tapir
Also does anyone know what
ticks-per:
animal-spawns: 200
monster-spawns: 4
autosave: 6000
does in bukkit.yml? I'm reading through a guide and it says to set them higher
vestal jasper
Ur clicking it wrong
vivid oyster
How tf am i suppose to click it
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wow thats awful
vestal jasper
Literally anywhere in the white space
left swift
Lool
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now who's covering it all up
latent valve
wait till someone join or a ytber make a vid
boys start those lagmachine
merry talon
oh there's always lag machines
that's why its surprising
and how mc doesn't collapse with an 8tb world
merry talon
It can't get much bigger due to the world border afaik
latent valve
well wb is 30mil sooooooooooooooooooo
hause need to buy more storage
merry talon
oh I'm probably wrong then
latent valve
hmmm 2b change from proxypipe to Cosmic Global Networks for their anti ddos 🤔
left swift
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what's the death count on that virus
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pretty low
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oh are we relying on chinese stats?
twin lagoon
limber knotBOT
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celest coyote
its just a flu
twin lagoon
interesting video about it
celest coyote
potentially bioengineered by china
crystal compass
bruh
Trying to transfer files with scp and Im giving the correct user password and its says permission denied
tf
left swift
It spreads through discord
celest coyote
scientists found striking similarities to HIV
latent valve
Total Confirmed infected
9,926
Total Recovered
222
Total Deaths
213
latent valve
look fine to me
left swift
Good don't want my prime to go to waste
crystal compass
@void void so i finally got my server, is the scp -r directory1 user@ip.he.re:directory2 the command I want to use?
using it rn
twin lagoon
i'd suggest using rsync
latent valve
rsync +1
crystal compass
Is that easier/faster ?
twin lagoon
never got any problems with rsync myself