#general
limber knotBOT
(Amaranth) Eminem - Darkness (Official Video) - length 6m 6s - 255,424 likes, 4,557 dislikes (98.2%) - 464,002 views - EminemVEVO on 2020.01.17
Oh hell the new album comes out today
Like, probably 2 or 3 hours ago :P
limber knotBOT
Huh, whole album got uploaded to youtube too
void void
I hate Eminem
dapper nacelle
can I safely send messages to the player or console from within async context?
golden gust
Shouldn't be any issues sending a message to the console
static badge
does anyone think about how the little boy was probably the first rice cooker invented
void void
:^)
dapper nacelle
hm..
what url would I need to fill in
I want all the servers that run the plugin to recieve a notification for updates
woven otter
that was good leaf ngl
unreal quarry
I didn't get it
drifting tapir
woven otter
do you know what little boy is?
void void
who is minidigger after all?
golden gust
He's the channel alcoholic
void void
mini who are you
zealous knot
eletro called me mini yesterday
im not a mini you stupid
i'm a mega
always mega
void void
mega doubt 
woven otter
mini is small
wise pebble
i know aikar is small
hard kernel
While checking we could see that the IPMI IP is not responding to ping and KVM is not loading.
msg from reliablesite tech
shell vine
reliable
hard kernel
We need to check this by onsite technician to resolve the issue. Unfortunately onsite technician is not available at the moment.
then he tried to sell me a port speed upgrade 😄
pastel girder
Hungary sends aid for the hungry
latent valve
Mini u have belly u just exhale all your air
golden gust
monitor flies off the desk
latent valve
Mini cant drown bcuz he have his belly as a floating (idfk what they are called)
golden gust
When most people are working out, they're counting down how many burgers they've just ran off
Mini? He's counting crates
latent valve
😂 😂
void void
is it still recommended to use that Villager Optimiser on 1.15.1?
void void
heady spear
unreal stag
magic pier
Yo
heady spear
o what a smile
lone rover
pastel ledge
void void
shell vine
glad i opened those in incognito
pearl ibex
shell vine
👀
limber knotBOT
Just went thru the whole new Eminem album
shell vine
pretty sure it stops amazon from sending you ads for what you last looked at
limber knotBOT
Man darkness is amazing
(MiniDigger) Eminem - Darkness (Official Video) - length 6m 6s - 639,999 likes, 12,727 dislikes (98.1%) - 3,887,583 views - EminemVEVO on 2020.01.17
limber knotBOT
Yeah dropped earlier today
But that single is amazing, the vid especially and the message
shell vine
that one was good, uinaccomaodating was good, not a fan of lock it up
on to the next one
wise pebble
who is eminem
void void
hard kernel
Ayo simple
shell vine
like skittle but chocolate
golden gust
shell vine
limber knotBOT
Cat being productive? Did somebody gift him a new battery?
zealous knot
i didn't even know he was the dev of McMMO
upper flicker
he's a dev on mcmmo yeah
nossr started adding people when he came back
nossr is the original iirc
zealous knot
nossr 
upper flicker
he was wise and left mc
void void
:(
zealous knot
When did he leave?
upper flicker
originally?
zealous knot
yeah
upper flicker
fuckkkk a while ago
zealous knot
so who maintained mcmmo while he was away?
void void
is he still mod here, or did he just log out disc
upper flicker
he's offline
void void
o
upper flicker
a string of people making bad decisions if you listen to him rant about the code 
golden gust
Oh god
upper flicker
alright cat
golden gust
the codebase is a 10/10 aneurism-fest
golden gust
api bridge, basically
upper flicker
what are we bridging to
zealous knot
paper 
void void
upper flicker
are you shimming mcmmo on top of its own api or something
golden gust
Basically, there is two versions of mcmmo with their own "API"
upper flicker
monkaS
golden gust
soon™️ to be 3
zealous knot
soon™️
golden gust
And some level of, I'd much rather maintain 1 set of API accessors than two
(given that we're also apparently working on other plugins too, nossr started on some guilds stuff)
limber knotBOT
.addcmd 927 https://xkcd.com/927/
golden gust
😄
upper flicker
since it keeps coming up
golden gust
.git
upper flicker
actually does xD's thing work
golden gust
We need that one too 😉
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Simple Answers (11 November 2013) | http://xkcd.com/1289
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Standards (20 July 2011) | http://xkcd.com/927
golden gust
Yea, it's pretty...
upper flicker
writing a discord bot is just moving further and further up the list
"but z paper has like 75,000 open issues"
yeah but discord bot
golden gust
wanna toy with jda this weekend or something \o/
upper flicker
use javacord
zealous knot
no
upper flicker
tell me if its good or not
zealous knot
javacord is fucking garbage
upper flicker
jda v javacord is like some dumb holy war
and people flame you regardless of which you choose
olive garden
Jda
cosmic raft
Limbo should be coming up later today probably
golden gust
kash, settle the score
golden gust
He probs..ofc
limber knotBOT
javacord is bae
upper flicker
100% kash
limber knotBOT
jda is garbo
upper flicker
0% docs
zealous knot
lmfao ^
zealous knot
lmfao
zealous knot
If you pick JDA you're right
upper flicker
says the robot cat who has been running off of just one battery for the last few weeks
go to the store, get some batteries
jade mountain
upper flicker
nou
zealous knot
he's battery is too low for that
upper flicker
if there was a rust lib I'd use that
zealous knot
node.js is bae ❤️
upper flicker
but it wasnt around in a useful state when I needed it
limber knotBOT
s/bae ❤️ /bad/
rip
if you pick jda you pick this shit: https://github.com/DV8FromTheWorld/JDA/blob/master/src/main/java/net/dv8tion/jda/api/hooks/ListenerAdapter.java
zealous knot
Florian Spieß
upper flicker
but idc if the impl is ugly
zealous knot
tf is that name
cosmic raft
that's the api
upper flicker
plenty of ugly impls
cosmic raft
lol
olive garden
javax 🤮
shell vine
zealous knot
lmfao
upper flicker
individual methods you override make for some clean code in your stuff
and its clearly fast enough
golden gust
I mean, no matter which one you look at, you kinda understand why kash made his own...
zealous knot
^
upper flicker
if someone had a reason beyond "reeeee" that'd be great
zealous knot
LMAO!!!
upper flicker
javacord performs 30% faster would be a good reason to switch
javacord lets you write cleaner code would be a good reason
limber knotBOT
what I don't get is why it doesn't just call the event methods directly throughout the code and needs a generic onEvent method...
upper flicker
"reee look at this so ugly" not so much
upper flicker
lol
limber knotBOT
I prefer how javacord's event system works ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
sometimes it do be like that
cosmic raft
I wrote my own api+impl because I didn't like the api's in jda/javacord/discord4j. don't like overriding methods to listen to events in jda, javacord was dead with lots of issues when i was looking for something, and discord4j uses reactive stuff that i didn't want to use at the time
and it was easy to write my own
void void
i mean its just a rest api isnt it
cosmic raft
no
void void
yea so it shouldnt be terribly hard to write an api
cosmic raft
it's websockets too
cosmic raft
https://github.com/KyoriPowered/polar/blob/master/src/main/java/net/kyori/polar/gateway/Gateway.java
this is 99% of it
golden gust
it's one of those cases where making your own API wouldn't hurt, it's just the legwork to do so
Kash's looks interesting given the others... for me it's between JDA and polar
cosmic raft
and the other reasoning for making my own
is i don't care for all the voice shit and lots of other junk
mine does what i need
void void
ah so thats what the polar repo is in kyori
void void
i see
upper flicker
yeah I try and avoid the voice shit as much as possible
should add a text to speech bot that announces everything in #paper-github
just because
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
it's official, I just had my last class ever
cosmic raft
time for class
limber knotBOT
nevermore
void void
limber knotBOT
get your stinger away from me
cosmic raft
golden gust
judging intensifies
void void
limber knotBOT
electronicbee
woven otter
what are we looking at kash
cosmic raft
where
woven otter
twilight?
void void
yes
cosmic raft
yes
limber knotBOT
good deduction, duck
cosmic raft
i know words are hard for you duck
woven otter
wow that's rude
limber knotBOT
I don't think you can correct a correction :D
s/fuck/upsidedown people
Correction, <KennyTV> dum upsidedown people
woven otter
yes u did it
void void
void void
k
limber knotBOT
whose email ends in vip.126.com
k
it was instantly flagged as spam
obviously
the payment is horrendously late
void void
chinese?
void void
yea them chinese with the number domains lmao
void void
k
limber knotBOT
also he's registered as "Chinese Painting and Handwriting Friendship Station" on paypal which I find to be fantastic
void void
limber knotBOT
china's just on a whole 'nother level
oh motherfucker
I used the wrong credit card
void void
magma wen stream
limber knotBOT
yes I want to see you fuck up transactions live
woven otter
yes I want to see simple and vic give you more bits
limber knotBOT
just had classes from 9 am to 5 pm
I'm mentally checked out
besides I'm not doing a livestream of me editing footage
which is what I need to do next
devout pebble
void void
guys @fallen oracle and I have a noob question, @fallen oracle go
fallen oracle
Smh
fallen oracle
So we have our banner project, right? A library we're using is on Java 8 (and so is our spring projects) but they have a test branch that require > 8. If we compile that and try to use that, will that cause problems for us in our java 8 projects even though we're not directly interacting with it / making changes?
I think I worded that right.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
wide chasm
Wow what a noob question. It's so noob, I'm not even gonna bother answering it.
merry talon
incredibly nooby
upper flicker
so you your main src is java 8
and your test src is java 124921421?
did I read that correctly?
fallen oracle
Us: Java 8
Random Gradle Dependency Main: Java 8
Random Gradle Dependency With Possible Fixes In It: Java 9+
merry talon
yeah but pvp in java 1361547913 sucks
upper flicker
yes it will cause problems if you want to depend on it
java class files are versioned
leaden cave
just a oof question, which cms look this site? https://support.hypixel.net/ ?
it look more worldpress customized
dapper nacelle
that moment when you reload the plugin from async context with your plugin by accident
dapper nacelle
I corrupted a lot of files
leaden cave
that was not just a chat support?
ancient bolt
That looks like the kotlin K
cosmic raft
trust me, it's kayako :p
upper flicker
coach?
ancient bolt
If I die, know that I only love tacos, none of y'all
upper flicker
the only thing I could use when Im flying coach is a drink
which you can coincidentally not usually get in coach
so load up in the airport
ancient bolt
The seat next to me is empty
So that's pretty great
Okay we're taking off now byyyeeeee
upper flicker
l8r g8r
limber knotBOT
we dont love you
cosmic raft
hmm
yeah
that definitely doesn't give it away too ec
i just know what kayako looks like :P
hi @shell vine
this is fun
shell vine
yes
simple edge
void void
Alright, well. Just listening to the new Eminem album cover to cover. Was alright.
austere ivy
See ya'll when I have 10k followers.
wide chasm
Brian explain to me how you can physically post that stuff.
limber knotBOT
His butt is buff
austere ivy
Even dropped a little link to my mlm, livinghealthywithbrian.com, where YOU can be a sales representative for Living Healthy with Brian for only $49.99 for a starter package or $99.99 for a PRO package! Imagine having a side job making MONEY for your family! Just buy my packages, and then sell them to other people! They contain goodies like juices, oatmeal packets, and healthy recipes!
wait, I messed that up, you're supposed to break the news that it's an mlm last.
dapper nacelle
imagine if my plugin auto updated at 00:00
and the users never knew it did
that'd be too illegal to implement
limber knotBOT
commits a warcrime against KennyTV
austere ivy
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void void
Brian
austere ivy
Yes?
void void
Shut the fuck up
shell vine
sign me the fuck up
limber knotBOT
throws a tin of sporuts at simple
wide chasm
Not gonna lie, I'd rather buy 6 pro packages than buy the MineAcademy course.
void void
who the fuck would buy that
wide chasm
I have no clue
shell vine
kids
wide chasm
Kids don't have 600 dollars though
shell vine
it costs that much? lol i havent actually looked at it
austere ivy
I can't seem to find the actual pricing anywhere on their website, is that part of their tactic?
wide chasm
Yes, it's normally 600 dollars. He says he never does sales, but I don't think it has ever been priced 600 dollars though.
austere ivy
Seems like to "get started" you first have to make an account, which I'd guess ropes you into it.
wide chasm
I think that is his tactic.
The site used to say something like that even, but I think he removed that part.
austere ivy
Does anyone have any info about the actual quality of the course, though? It says something about 1:1 tutoring and stuff like that. The guy behind it has made some decently successful plugins. While not worth $600, if you've got infinite money then maybe having a guy who actually knows how to make plugins 1:1 tutor you isn't that bad?
Then again you can get a plethora of information on how to do it for free....
wide chasm
I have checked out the free trial: tl;dr not worth 600 dollars.
The free trial doesn't cover everything of course, but that's based on what I looked at during the free trial.
limber knotBOT
wAIT WAIT WAIT
Did that mother fucker just make refrence to the manchester bombins
bomings
austere ivy
Which?
woven otter
Brian
austere ivy
Yeah?
woven otter
I think md69pineapplehead might be right
austere ivy
about..?
woven otter
well do you know his phrase
austere ivy
no, what is it?
dark summit
heady spear
Power outage yay
void void
lol git fukd
austere ivy
whenever I get an actual computer definitely something I'll budget for is a separate power box thing, what are those called? somehow I forgot.
upper flicker
ups
fallen oracle
UPS
upper flicker
uninterruptible power supply
some people also just say 'apc' which is a brand that is... mostly good
void void
just borrow your dad's car battery
pulsar wigeon
lmao
heady spear
I can sleeeppppp
pulsar wigeon
md's favorite quote, duck
limber knotBOT
What is this trash song
hard kernel
Hello nerds
limber knotBOT
Godam
austere ivy
Would this be a concise way of having a toggle key if the only info you have is if the button is pressed or not, per tick?
if (kbToggleNoVelocity.isPressed()) {
if (!wasToggleNoVelocityPressed) {
isNoVelocityEnabled = !isNoVelocityEnabled;
if (isNoVelocityEnabled) {
e.player.addChatMessage(new TranslatableText("text.brianclient.activated_no_velocity"), true);
} else {
e.player.addChatMessage(new TranslatableText("text.brianclient.deactivated_no_velocity"), true);
}
}
wasToggleNoVelocityPressed = true;
} else {
wasToggleNoVelocityPressed = false;
}
that is disgusting formatting, why Discord, why?
hard kernel
Lol
austere ivy
wise yoke
woven otter
at wiz: that might be the reason I associated it with him but deep down I knew it was from you
limber knotBOT
so bored
woven otter
gonna throw in one controversial question in here. What are some good alternatives to sublime?
austere ivy
VSCodium, Atom, NotePad++, and if you want CLI then Vim or something.
My go-to is VSCodium, it looks nice, works nice, and works as both a programmy text editor and a regular text editor, with support for a ton of formats (via extensions).
woven otter
NotePad++ is eww. I mean I used to use it but moved away from it
austere ivy
I've never used it but people said it's good, I think it's windows only so..
I honestly can't imagine using THIS(v) kind of interface while coding but hey what works for you works for you.
wide chasm
I only use Notepad++ for editing YAML, properties, CSV, JSON and XML files that are not related to a project. Else it's just an IDE from JetBrains for me.
austere ivy
Give VSCodium a shot, no weird telemetry, looks nice, and opens decently fast.
on my poor little 2012 Macbook it opens in 5 seconds.
woven otter
5 seconds 
austere ivy
wide chasm
My pc is older than 2012, though. But IJ loads in 1-2 minutes, so how bad can it be.
I'll give it a shot sometime.
woven otter
I mean I guess it would be faster than sublime now 🤔
limber knotBOT
austere ivy
It's just VSCode without all the telemetry (and in my opinion) nicer branding.
limber knotBOT
(Vertanzil) Freddie Mercury goes Fly Fishing with his Mama (ASMR) - length 1m 20s - 27,776 likes, 516 dislikes (98.2%) - 283,574 views - Jasonafex on 2019.11.08
upper flicker
notepad++ is a text editor with some basic ide features
austere ivy
upper flicker
not an ide
upper flicker
similar to vscode just with less extensions
woven otter
what would you use Z
upper flicker
I don't like to use windows-only software
as Im often not on windows
but np++ is pretty nice otherwise as a text editor
subl, np++, vscode
vim
vim good
vim cross platform
woven otter
hmm I guess could actually try vscode. was thinking of vim too
wide chasm
VSCode is pretty good when I used it for C++ in uni, but I still prefer IDEs, so I moved to CLion for that.
austere ivy
vscodium, not vscode
woven otter
I mean I prefer IDEs too it's just for the small stuff mostly
upper flicker
binary releases of VS Code without MS branding/telemetry/licensing
well telemetry can be disabled in even vscode
the rest is just branding issues
dunno if I'd go out of my way for that versus changing the settings file
austere ivy
maybe it's just my imagination, I'll give vscode another shot then
upper flicker
vscode/ium are pretty quick for electron
actually probably the fastest Ive seen for electron
but that damn qualifier still sticks around
austere ivy
it's very nicely installed if you have macos brew cask install vscodium cannot believe how long I went without homebrew
upper flicker
homebrew is wonderful
not quite as nice as some of the linux package managers but certainly a very very welcome addition
austere ivy
I thought it'd be awful because like "oh man having all the downloads in one place that's weird I don't want another app store"
upper flicker
want it on everything
austere ivy
but it's like an extension instead of the only way you can download apps
upper flicker
unfortunately on windows the best the community has come up with seems to be chocolatey
which is just... pretty bad
austere ivy
being able to just run brew upgrade and having all of your outdated things update without individually searching for them is wonderful
I do not like windows at all, can't imagine using it as a main os
I'm just a consistency nut so the fact that there's 3 places to find settings and all the apps look different is just awful to me
instead of fixing their current stuff they just add new stuff on top of it and I don't like it
what's your main os, z?
upper flicker
archlinux + gnome
macOS for office stuff and proprietary crap that will never come to linux. UNIXy goodness with some software support
and Windows is still the best option for managing ... Windows
so I end up using all three on a very regular basis
hollow prawn
limber knotBOT
i use vscode on my windows laptop for latex but that's pretty much the only thing
most things it's just not worth the resources it takes
woven otter
did you make a meme just for this
austere ivy
first panel shouldn't have "github repository" on it
dapper nacelle
frig
austere ivy
it should be in her fist, hidden
limber knotBOT
hardcoded color codes
austere ivy
then once she opens her fist then you show "github repository" on the plate
fix that then I'll review it
dapper nacelle
just that class
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimerAsynchronously(this, updater::checkForUpdates, 0L, 12000L);
```I call this in my onEnablerestart > reload
dapper nacelle
restart is broken
austere ivy
so is reload
austere ivy
honestly I suggest spit out a message that says Please restart to complete installation.
alright just saying you're probably gonna have people who are like "why is memory getting so high when I do your update??" or "why is obscure thing broken?"
limber knotBOT
okay so why can't you download the update and replace the old version without reloading
dapper nacelle
you can do that?
upper flicker
not realllllllly
limber knotBOT
well
upper flicker
but you probably shouldnt trigger reloads without explicitly asking
especially given how many other plugins will break if you reload
limber knotBOT
you definitely can't on windows right?
upper flicker
I dont remember if it locks the file still
I thought that was fixed in newer versions of java now
but idk
dapper nacelle
so you unload your plugin from the server and classloader, then via a scheduled task replace the jar and then enable the plugin?
limber knotBOT
i haven't tried in forever
austere ivy
best of both worlds
upper flicker
all tasks from your plugin are cleared at disable
limber knotBOT
poorly
upper flicker
you can disable/enable stuff programmatically
there's classloaders and other stuff to dela with as well
limber knotBOT
i'd do some experimenting to see if you can replace the jar while the server is running, and do that at /most/
upper flicker
the general best advice is to just tell them to restart
stop increasing your support burden
"well this classloader replace doesnt work on this forked version of openj9 I run on my templeos computer on powerpc"
👀
limber knotBOT
also your notification thing will throw an exception if the player quits before the checker completes
i'm going to patch my hotspot build to fail on your class exclusively
austere ivy
hex, I think we all agree, it's best to just tell your players to restart, that's the route I'd go anyway
also whole plugin or just updater.java do you want us to focus on?
limber knotBOT
are you suggesting that's not what I said, brian
limber knotBOT
You have a small pp
you are a small pp
throws a cabbage at KennyTV
throws TehBrian at Vertanzil
woo
woven otter
you're new here
limber knotBOT
DUCKY!
woven otter
turns Kenny right side up
woven otter
how thoughtful
limber knotBOT
i get a surge of adrenaline from the anxiety of watching a conversation and hoping it doesn't devolve into furry roleplay
it's the only drug i need
dapper nacelle
hm..
woven otter
smh furry
woven otter
makes kenny ping wiz
dapper nacelle
wait did my image get removed
limber knotBOT
lol
dapper nacelle
or didn't I post it in this channel
dapper nacelle
did I post a meme in here a minute ago
limber knotBOT
don't worry i can still see it and appreciate how wrong you are
dapper nacelle
I wonder if I can schedule a task that doesn't get removed when I unload my plugin
dapper nacelle
well
I can disable my plugin
schedule a task that overrides the jar and then enable my plugin
limber knotBOT
why
dapper nacelle
why
limber knotBOT
okay so part 1 is whether or not your plugin can cleanly be disabled without any issues
dapper nacelle
it can
dapper nacelle
no seriously
limber knotBOT
yes seriously, don't
dapper nacelle
well, the guy who is collaborating with me is working on a feature which I am kinda waiting for to finish so yeah I have nothing else to do
@Override
public void onDisable() {
configHandler.save(configFile);
disableLogic.forEach(Runnable::run);
}
the registered listeners should be auto disabled
actually
not sure about my commands
yeah it would be likely
actually
I can probably do reflection hacks
limber knotBOT
then work on making your server restart faster
dapper nacelle
I don't have issues with that
limber knotBOT
i'll just tell you, if i had a plugin that used reflection hacks to fuck around with the reload process i wouldn't want to use it
^
dapper nacelle
well, as long as you handle stuff properly there won't be issues
limber knotBOT
reflection hacks
handle stuff properly
never trust yourself to handle stuff properly
that's a big assumption for anyone to make
especially for you
dapper nacelle
ah I just remembered why nothing was working and then I remembered I broke backwards compatibility
only like 20 people are using my plugin so its fine
limber knotBOT
how does that make any sense at all
dapper nacelle
well
the change I made really improves performance
since my project is still not very widely used
jetp
hear me out
fallen jungle
- How many times are you going to break backwards compatibility
- Did you actually profile the code or how do you know performance really improved
dapper nacelle
because
wait I never broke backwards compatibility
in any release up until now*
austere ivy
How would strafing be implemented?
addVelocity only takes in deltas for the 3 coords, no directions or vectors.
limber knotBOT
what is this
fallen jungle
wdym 'deltas for the 3 coords'? That sounds exactly like a vector to me
austere ivy
duck how would an image server actually be setup?
woven otter
php script
fallen jungle
I saw that yeah but how is that not a vector
austere ivy
I suppose it is a vector
woven otter
yeah it is a vector
austere ivy
woven otter
that's his choice of words I guess
woven otter
god knows what you are actually trying to do
fallen jungle
You can just get the forward vector and compute XZ tangent
limber knotBOT
okay so are you trying to get the player to move in a circular fashion?
fallen jungle
i.e tangent = (-forward.z, 0, forward.x) or flip signs for opposite direction
can't get cheaper than that
If you want to account for the Y value, you could take a cross product instead
limber knotBOT
if you've got a motion vector you add to it the cross product of it and their -y velocity
fallen jungle
as in sideways = forward.crossProduct(new Vector(0, 1, 0));, (0,1,0) because that's the UP axis used by Minecraft
But I'd bet you don't want to account for the Y
And actually, you'll have to normalize the tangent so I suppose it's not free after all
austere ivy
I just want a way for players to have wasd but faster, so I was thinking that I'd use uhjk and have them go super fast like that, so I'd need strafing and the such.
fallen jungle
Also scratch the cross product, the Y makes no difference because you'd be normalizing the result anyways
austere ivy
But now I'm thinking maybe I'd just have them use wasd and press a button to multiply their speed or something like that.
Wouldn't be as fun though.
woven otter
so you were inspired by leaf?
austere ivy
yup,
fallen jungle
Well, the tangent should do the trick
woven otter
what do you have rn
fallen jungle
But really I'd have a single method that takes as a parameter the forward/strafe/up-down values
Because you shouldn't apply forward & strafe individually
that'd end up with a faster diagonal movement
gloomy tartan
Does anyone have know how the latest builds for paper 1.15.1 do in terms of performance with large player counts? Are there still massive performance problems with any more than 60 players on a server? (With properly configured configs)
limber knotBOT
you can hold 60 without problems with sane plugins using paper api and proper configuration
without too many problems at least 👀
gloomy tartan
bc on 1.14.4 builds they have tons of performance issues with tons of players
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
well then 1.15 won't be your saving angel, but it's a bit better than 1.14 for what it's worth
gloomy tartan
Are latest 1.15.1 builds able to handle 500+ players or no chance?
austere ivy
depends on what they're all doing
gloomy tartan
Say for a skyblock
upper flicker
unlikely
limber knotBOT
not even 1.8 can handle 500 in a survival environment without REALLY HARD optimizations lol
upper flicker
outside of a 500 player chatroom its probably not going to work
austere ivy
^
upper flicker
and old versions really wouldnt do that scale either, and 1.14+ has really gotten worse
so yeah the answer is pretty much no
limber knotBOT
500 player chatroom? sounds like a good time
upper flicker
pretty much just irc all over again
latent valve
Just out or curiosity what happen when setting viewdistance to 0 do 🤔
limber knotBOT
everything explodes?
gloomy tartan
just gauging improvments since currently working with a 1.12.2 custom jar with a lot of changes so probs not viable
latent valve
Man no fun
gloomy tartan
What really is holds back the current versions in terms of perf?
latent valve
Mob chunkload iirc ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
not even remotely the same system
upper flicker
optifine might still tick it, though in new versions it wouldnt need to
that'd be an easy change for a jar mod
upper flicker
yes
mojang is getting there with java
there are now chunks that don't tick but they still arent sent for rendering
it looks like that's where they're going
their renderer likely wouldnt have played nicely though either
latent valve
Rip pc
upper flicker
but I know they're working on that as well
upper flicker
valhalla would solve a lot of these issues
well, certainly reduce GC pressure a ton
the GC is usually doing pretty well on the client
but it hasnt exactly gotten better since 1.8
a lot of the systems have gotten more featureful and expanded to allow more and better stuff in the future
limber knotBOT
has valhalla come any further since like 2018
gloomy tartan
Z750 what do you guys commonly get reported in timing reports to be causing lag on 1.15.1?
upper flicker
they've done multiple prototypes to explore how they want to implement it
afaik they've settled on the one they want to use going forward and now its just time to start
Probably still a ways away though
dapper nacelle
is there any way I can schedule a runnable that doesn't get taken out of the scheduler when the plugin is disabled?
upper flicker
no
austere ivy
I forget what it's called but there's a law that states software is getting slower faster than the rate hardware is getting more powerful
upper flicker
and if you find a way, don't tell me because that's a bug and I'll fix it
limber knotBOT
dylan can you just be a normal human being and work on features instead of making your plugin a stupid hack
austere ivy
^
limber knotBOT
be nice
austere ivy
harsh but partially true
tiny linden
dapper nacelle
upper flicker
wow thomas the tank engine memes
austere ivy
I'd rather you spend this time on adding cool new features rather than trying to go around just telling your players to restart
austere ivy
that's gru that's not thomas the tank engine
limber knotBOT
he's kinda doing what devon did some time back - asking fantastic questions, ignoring reponses/criticism, asking again
upper flicker
close enough
austere ivy
LOL
dapper nacelle
yall don't care about quality of life updates
dapper nacelle
yes
left swift
Ur blind tho
limber knotBOT
does anyone else want a hoodie that says "i pollute metaspace" on it
i'll pay shipping
left swift
Nice
limber knotBOT
suffer
dapper nacelle
😂
limber knotBOT
you don't deserve it
I have an updater in a plugin as well, but I don't encourage hacky reloading and just tell people to restart
left swift
He confessed his love for mlp
austere ivy
irc bridge stopped working
dapper nacelle
and copy the contents to an array
limber knotBOT
dapper nacelle
and via reflections do hacks
limber knotBOT
did it now
upper flicker
don't say I never did anything for you
austere ivy
thank you
limber knotBOT
Z750 you're too nice
dull tendon
austere ivy
I think he's just perfect
gloomy sphinx
top quality plugin
dapper nacelle
nice
limber knotBOT
some ping wiz, quickly
dapper nacelle
iT iS bUiLd On ToP oF wOrLdEdIt
gloomy sphinx
its great when it somehow removes blocks you placed by hand no where near the selection when you set blocks
latent valve
@pulsar wigeonyyyyyy hope this wont ping him if it does yall know what will happen
i fucking write multipley
austere ivy
Hex can you see my chats in #paper?
upper flicker
@atomic plazaniccattttt
limber knotBOT
lol nice one edok
austere ivy
irc isn't working for me thonk
upper flicker
oh thats awful
gloomy sphinx
i blame @pulsar wigeon for ruining FAWE
limber knotBOT
i don't think i'll tell him
upper flicker
you dont even have to tab complete
austere ivy
poor @muted coral
limber knotBOT
did you just ping him twice
latent valve
no i wrote wizjanyyyyyyy and it ping wiz instead lol
limber knotBOT
may god have mercy on your soul
gloomy sphinx
austere ivy
wrong, kenny
gloomy sphinx
he banned me
austere ivy
from?
static badge
what
latent valve
report this bug to discord pls
limber knotBOT
discord might have some bigger problems right now lmao
static badge
frog
austere ivy
want to try out my client?
limber knotBOT
i miss being able to kick people from discord but also that's probably too much power for someone who hates discord users
oh yeah look at me
superior irc user here
latent valve
🔥 🍂
gloomy sphinx
what kind of name is steamfrog
austere ivy
leaf can you see my messages?
limber knotBOT
no, lead can't read
you have as many braincells as you do characters in your username
austere ivy
kenny
limber knotBOT
no I can't read either
austere ivy
what
austere ivy
what do I do so that IRC works for me again
latent valve
F
limber knotBOT
you need to be identified with services
gloomy sphinx
i must have a lot of braincells
austere ivy
but I am
limber knotBOT
look at the hampster go
austere ivy
I can't do /msg nickserv
what am I supposed to do here
did my account get deleted?
austere ivy
who on earth decided that irc accounts get deleted
deft fable
ban every discord user
gloomy sphinx
discord is great
austere ivy
I don't like irc
limber knotBOT
well we don't like you
gloomy sphinx
tencent owns part of discord and all discord data is sent directly to motherland china
what is not to love
limber knotBOT
what's up
alright seems like TehBrian was taken by me logging on before
so I have TehBrian_
austere ivy
that's enough of that.
dapper nacelle
deft fable
lets be real what isnt partly owned by tencent?
dapper nacelle
ah yes
limber knotBOT
yeah that plugin obviously is made by a German
what else could it be if not German
austere ivy
I'm not partly owned by tencent
upper flicker
give it time
deft fable
brian thats what the chinese want you to think
dapper nacelle
I can understand German partly
austere ivy
huh
limber knotBOT
I'm ashamed to be of the same origin as that plugin author
austere ivy
what's your origin?
limber knotBOT
I'm German, so uh
latent valve
deft fable
now im not an expert but something tells me that that plugin reload cant be very healthy for the server?
limber knotBOT
👀
dapper nacelle
the plugin is literally 2 classes
latent valve
😦 I'm sorry my master wiz
austere ivy
hey 2 classes is a lot
limber knotBOT
you're getting outsmarted by someone named hentaimaster i think it's time to let it go
austere ivy
I'm not sure I can even count that high
gloomy sphinx
dapper nacelle
lol
limber knotBOT
and you still understand that reload=bad
gloomy sphinx
did tencent kick me?
limber knotBOT
good enough :aaa:
deft fable
it literally says so on every page for every plugin ever
i trust people who are smarter than me
limber knotBOT
pf, there's no such thing as smurt poopl on the interwebs
dapper nacelle
owo
limber knotBOT
just don't trust anyone~~, except for me~~
deft fable
i actually had to take my friend's op because he kept /reloading the server
limber knotBOT
just make an alias for a self kick command lmao
dapper nacelle
hacks
deft fable
remember im not that smart
limber knotBOT
add an alias in the commands.yml for "reload" to "kick @p", voilà :aaa:
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
oO
deft fable
only stuff i caught was "pedo" and "boolean for male and female"
dapper nacelle
ok
I will leave restarting up to the user
my updater now simply fetches the file and puts it in the plugins/update folder
limber knotBOT
sounds like someone found the obvious