#general | PaperMC | Page 447

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:07 AM

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thanks roboto and your ultra large letter spacing now i gotta resize fonts

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limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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the issue with the last font is that the verticals are bolder than the horizontals

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just offer all google fonts and let the user choose ¯_(ツ)_/¯

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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can i get the ttfs from google lol

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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pretty sure

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:08 AM

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yes

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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w/o having to download them for every request :>

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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just download them all in one package

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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store them locally?

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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runs

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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oh nvm

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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yeah thats my question

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can i do that

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oh wait

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i see what you mean

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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it's a file?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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lmao

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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gfdi simple

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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select all the ones you want

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and download

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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yeah pepeshake

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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why are we letting simple code this shit

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we're gonna end up with something barely better than the last guy

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:10 AM

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thats a VERY low bar wiz

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have you seen the other guys

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:10 AM

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low for us

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for you, eeeehhhhh

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:10 AM

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kappa

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:11 AM

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and barty unexpectedly comes in from nowhere and somehow manages to lower the collective IQ of the conversation

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:12 AM

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lul :') https://github.com/google/fonts/archive/master.zip

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300MB :')

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:12 AM

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are you even allowed to host those files hyperthink

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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don't know

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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probably lol

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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btw, the builder will let you control all the positions of everything so i mean, what im doing is just the "default" design lul

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you guys can move text n shit and resize it however u want

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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also he isn't hosting them, he is using them ;D

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:14 AM

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true, it would be in the maven resource dir, but not directly downloadable

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just used :L

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 1:14 AM

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I think we're fine.

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:14 AM

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seems like they recommend embedding them but they dont explicitly state you aren't allowed to

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so you should be fine

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:15 AM

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ref the licensing section

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:16 AM

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its the FAQ

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wait you mean him

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lul

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:16 AM

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each diff font has a separate license

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blobdead

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Oh that's for modifying

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Use should be okay

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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This means we're good.

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void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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ye fuck it yall

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im downloading every single fucking google font

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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I mean

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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and im gonna have at least a 300MB jar

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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What they gonna do

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Sue him for everything he's got?

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lol

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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doubt

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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not gonna be much

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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300MB jar, ready glare?

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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I mean you can download them all and then go through them to see which you like.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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bruh

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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or you could do that first

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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what fun is that

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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xD

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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oh nice google

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"over 300MB"

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416MB

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they're not wrong

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jesus fuck

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no im not doing this

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this is horrible

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downloading all google fonts into a java project :>

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like 3000 fonts

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maybe more

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idk the two i just looked like were like 47kb each

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:20 AM

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I mean they include bold etc variants for all fonts

round depot Dec 15, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Hey guys I am on 1.14.4 and want to update to 1.15, should I simply swap the server.jar out with a renamed paper-8.jar? Is that how updating works?

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 1:54 AM

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yes, you should also update all your plugins to the latest versions and check if the ones that needversion specific releases have updates to 1.15

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of course you should also make a backup before, especially of your world

round depot Dec 15, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Thanks, will do.

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 2:03 AM

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brave lad

round depot Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Are most servers that have a fair amount of plugins not updating yet?

patent wraith Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I don't think a lot have.

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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it'll take some time

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I mean, it's still stupidly early in the release cycle

patent wraith Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 AM

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As far as I know, some bugs still exist in Paper.

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Not just dupes or whatever.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Aight here's Source Sans Pro https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344740247902617600/655591926661382164/blue_radial.png

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 2:13 AM

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looks cool

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although I think that strs and review count should be on the same line

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:16 AM

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^

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Yea, makes it potentially look like an author review being there or something

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Would also save your ass with nick length

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:17 AM

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huh good idea

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:18 AM

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can also shortform review/download count

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K,M etc

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:18 AM

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ah good idea

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:19 AM

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if they get long i guess

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also make one for d.b.o please

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so i can show off 21M dls

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:20 AM

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is d.b.o devbukkit

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 2:20 AM

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yea

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:20 AM

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i mean

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:20 AM

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do they have an api thonk or am gonna have to scrape

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:20 AM

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curseforge has an actual api

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lol

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I staand with my statement

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"gfdi simple"

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:21 AM

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D:

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oh yeah they are curse now huh

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aight i can make one then nbd

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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now

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they have literally been curseforge since day 1

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(of dbo, not of bukkit)

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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im not on that site like at all

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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we used to post plugins on bukkit forums

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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havent been for like 5 years

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:22 AM

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then curse offered curseforge and made dev.bukkit.org as a front

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o lol https://www.cfwidget.com/

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this is a thing

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:25 AM

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ah nice

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then im off

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Doesn't seem like a 1:1 unless there is a way to get it to poop an image instead of html

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:29 AM

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thoughts on using icons to represent the words 'downloads' and 'reviews' instead of writing them out?

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meh

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nah

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM

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its literally a counter that restarts if you leave it long enough

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void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 AM

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lol

shut iris Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 AM

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void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 AM

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wiz? cat?

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barty?

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 2:40 AM

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better i guess

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 AM

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any other changes you think? thonk

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 AM

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delete the repo

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 AM

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no fuk u

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 AM

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😢

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 AM

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i did not pay and get paypal scammed for ur rude attitude

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fix it

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:44 AM

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xD

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blame paypal not me

light vale Dec 15, 2019, 3:03 AM

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strange dove Dec 15, 2019, 3:23 AM

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void void Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 AM

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@pulsar wigeon reason?

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 3:25 AM

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double whammy

void void Dec 15, 2019, 3:25 AM

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nice for no reason

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round depot Dec 15, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Whoa @spare venture cool idea. Do it cost money for the 1.15 version?

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 3:48 AM

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~~it's almost like that was in the changelogs~~

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As we said, they didn't touch chunks on the server

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Tell a lie, they added an IO worker thread, but like, yea...

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 3:50 AM

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not sure why they wouldn't send chunks fast enough. Not like the amount of data being sent is overly large to begin with.

chilly kite Dec 15, 2019, 3:55 AM

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turbid ocean Dec 15, 2019, 4:02 AM

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ancient bolt Dec 15, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I had 2 emails to "update my Intellij plugin" to support 1.15 less than 24 hours after it came out so that's cool

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 4:09 AM

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sends 3rd one

void void Dec 15, 2019, 4:16 AM

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sends an e-taco in email

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📧 🌮

void void Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 AM

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that cancels out all annoying emails

cosmic raft Dec 15, 2019, 4:53 AM

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the radio in this game find some pretty good music

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snnEDoAK_2k

YouTube

Sirup Music

SUARK & Will Jay - Dose

🌟 Stream / Download: https://EnormousChills.lnk.to/Dose

SUARK & Will Jay - Dose [Enormous Chills - ETC204]

Swiss based SUARK teams up with US singer songwriter WILL JAY. The collaboration resulted in an epic dance gem. One of those tracks tickles the forefinger to hit th...

▶ Play video

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:53 AM

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(DiscordBot) SUARK & Will Jay - Dose - length 3m 32s - 42 likes, 1 dislike (97.7%) - 1,044 views - Sirup Music on 2019.12.09

merry pebble Dec 15, 2019, 5:11 AM

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wise kraken Dec 15, 2019, 5:40 AM

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placid thicket Dec 15, 2019, 5:58 AM

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so, server migration complete and a huge improvement to server performance

void void Dec 15, 2019, 6:05 AM

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forgot this existed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface

Boaty McBoatface

Boaty McBoatface is the lead boat of the Autosub Long-Range class of autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs). It is used for scientific research and is carried on the research vessel RRS Sir David Attenborough. Boaty McBoatface is owned by the Natural Environment Research Counc...

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oh wtf

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those bitches

shell vine Dec 15, 2019, 6:10 AM

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1.15 is actually better?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 6:10 AM

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chunkgen shit, chunk loading of pregenned better, entities better

dusk drift Dec 15, 2019, 6:11 AM

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toaster better

shell vine Dec 15, 2019, 6:11 AM

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nice i thought people were saying it wasnt any better

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 6:12 AM

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chunk rendering for the client is also better too

cosmic raft Dec 15, 2019, 6:12 AM

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lots of improvements in some things

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room for improvement

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Explosions are better

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Although factions servers will probably hate them for some reason

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 6:24 AM

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it's k they're still on 1.8 anyway

shell vine Dec 15, 2019, 6:24 AM

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^

void void Dec 15, 2019, 6:42 AM

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limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Hola

void matrix Dec 15, 2019, 7:51 AM

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viscid jungle Dec 15, 2019, 8:24 AM

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frosty ruin Dec 15, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Is there a list of fixed exploits by paper?

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Aka a list of exploits in spigot? 😂

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Just look thru the patches if you want that kind of info

frosty ruin Dec 15, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Hmmm ok thanks

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Im wondering mostly if stuff such as 0tick farms etc were fixed

charred hound Dec 15, 2019, 8:36 AM

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yes

void void Dec 15, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Demo: https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 8:46 AM

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what exactly are you working on?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 8:46 AM

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resource banners

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 8:47 AM

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to be used where?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 8:47 AM

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anywhere

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Forum signatures, etc.

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 8:47 AM

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I see

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:01 AM

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you can also do this https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?template=burning_orange

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or https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?res_name_font_size=22

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:01 AM

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epic

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rip title https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/40699/banner.png?template=burning_orange

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:03 AM

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https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?res_name_font_size=2200

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Bork

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https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?res_name_font_size=70

cosmic raft Dec 15, 2019, 9:03 AM

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https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?res_name_font_size=-1

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:03 AM

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https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/987/banner.png?res_name_font_size=-2

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ahh

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:05 AM

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yeah thats why we give those controls tho

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in case it doesnt fit bc name too long or w/e

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could use some clamping though

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or maybe ill include a way to send a regex for how you want the name displayed on the image b/c some have updates in the resource name

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when you really just want res name

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:06 AM

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yeah this doesnt look too much better haha https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/40699/banner.png?res_name_font_size=7

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:06 AM

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well would a regex help so you can get the part of the name you want

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:07 AM

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yeah sounds good

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or even just a text range as is

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Just ?display_name

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:08 AM

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?display_name="BEST PLUGIN EU WEST"

dusk drift Dec 15, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Whitelabel Error Page

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😭

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 9:09 AM

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yeah displayname sounds better xb

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:12 AM

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yeah i need to put an error page in

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well we pull plugin info from spiget

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but yeah could add a display_name arg

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ill throw some stuff around tomorrow

fallen oracle Dec 15, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Hell yeah!

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Dog woke me up. Okay, back to sleep.

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 9:39 AM

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https://banner.mcbanners.com/resource/1177/banner.png?template=burning_orange
Okay this is way sexier than the old stuff

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Thank you. Still WIP

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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the missing star looks awkward with that template

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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we're gonna get new star sprites

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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I should get people to not give me poor reviews

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:53 AM

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lul

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MiniDigger how do I do a custom error page in spring

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do i just make a route for /error

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:55 AM

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ye

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:55 AM

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alright thanks

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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spring lulChamp

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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picardsmile

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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tbh i use spring for my proxy server to mojang's API

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sadness

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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first time using it

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it's pretty okay

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:56 AM

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i don't know how scalable it is

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Mini might be able to answer that

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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it seems to handle to ~12 million monthly requests

void void Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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potentially

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I think he uses it in a rather large ev

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env

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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lets ping the shit out of him skappa

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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its the number #1 web framework for a reason

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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is it?

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:57 AM

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(java web framework)

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:58 AM

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does it not suck when you have large request volumes?

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:58 AM

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what else? j2e? 😂

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netflix runs on spring, just fyi

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 9:58 AM

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tf

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how do you know that

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 9:59 AM

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because most of their shit is open source

cosmic raft Dec 15, 2019, 9:59 AM

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https://medium.com/netflix-techblog/netflix-oss-and-spring-boot-coming-full-circle-4855947713a0

Medium

Netflix OSS and Spring Boot — Coming Full Circle

Taylor Wicksell, Tom Cellucci, Howard Yuan, Asi Bross, Noel Yap, and David Liu

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 10:00 AM

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pog

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:00 AM

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https://spring.io/projects/spring-cloud-netflix

Spring Projects

The Spring portfolio has many projects, including Spring Framework,
Spring IO Platform, Spring Cloud, Spring Boot, Spring Data, Spring Security...

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their blog is actually really interesting

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https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1021848/Building-a-Better-Centaur-AI

{$pageTitle}

{$session.description|strip_tags|truncate:250}

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ahhh, found something I find interesting

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its even shown as a MMO example

shrewd river Dec 15, 2019, 10:24 AM

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owo

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:25 AM

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shrewd river Dec 15, 2019, 10:29 AM

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hi

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:32 AM

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Damn wtf

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Idk if I'm fucking retarded but I can't get spring to send json for all errors

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it wants to send whitelabel, try disabling that it sends some tomcat shit

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json is only shown if it's not coming from a browser

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:46 AM

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https://hasteb.in/odugegih.js

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:47 AM

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wtf

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where does isIncludeStackTrace come from and they want me to implement getErrorPath

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where did you get that from so im not asking you questions lel

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im looking for docs on this

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:54 AM

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the methods all come from AbstractErrorController

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:54 AM

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yeah but getErrorPath isnt implemented

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and it cries

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and isIncludeStackTrace no exist

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

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am sorry

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

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using 2.2.2-release tho, so maybe it changed

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

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BasicErrorController

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

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o

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 10:55 AM

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https://docs.spring.io/spring-boot/docs/current/api/org/springframework/boot/autoconfigure/web/servlet/error/BasicErrorController.html

void void Dec 15, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Okay that worked, but now it screams over this lmao ${server.error.path}:${error.path:/error}}

That's just the context path, no? Seems to be very angery over server.error.path specifically, https://paste.md-5.net/uxitoxuvaw.sql

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oof maybe i should run it with debug

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aight. removed the server.error.path but still getting whitelabel. However if I understand correctly, this should only fire on exceptions. Meaning... that the 404 is not an exception.

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However I has this spring.mvc.throw-exception-if-no-handler-found=true D:

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So am don't understand

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Ok am look at this tomorrow

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This is rart

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@heady spear added the display name thing

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oh it's free

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Why t u telling me I don’t want this I’dh h logo away

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Stopp ping or I block!!!!! Pinging is illegal and it’s actually murder so

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:17 AM

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You kidding me bitch

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Ill fuck you for that comment

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:18 AM

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I never asked for dumb display name

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:18 AM

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📎 burning_orange.png

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Ping someone else instead you nooblet

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I’m going to make a rival service

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And advertise it to all our users

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:20 AM

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luv u

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:21 AM

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In fact I’m going to make it better

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:21 AM

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how

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

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I’ll add ads to it

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

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kappa

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Every 20th time it will show a mcprohost ad

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

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You know I can probably add adsense to this, but the tracking code... Pog

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injects script

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:23 AM

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I’m working on another web project though so

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Don’t have time for silly banners

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:23 AM

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wats ur web project qtpi

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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I’m spending way too much time on creating a way for me to organize class related material in the cloud

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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guys what do you think is the best shared host

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no shared host is best

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they're all TRASH

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🚮

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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So it organizes notes, assignment and shit, also books and it has latex rendering for note taking

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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that's pretty hot

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ill sign up for it

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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oddwhirled, whats ur budget

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Because I have committed to my 4.0 GPA

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:24 AM

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i have used a vps and i don't get the same performance to price ratio

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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And I want sexy tools to make me even smarter

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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r u gonna host it

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i wan use

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also what frontend are you using

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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It’s probably going to be done by the time I get my masters

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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boi

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this shit is EASY

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whip it the fuck out

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yee_fuckin_haw

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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No because my web server breaks all the time

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Poor web server

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Okay so the issue is that I haven’t started yet

wide chasm Dec 15, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Is a 4.0 GPA actually a 100%, or is it just a between x% and 100%?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Haven’t decided on a front end tbh

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:26 AM

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dude cs majors be like damn i could just do this in a few days or i could spend a month to make a computer do it for me

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I like how in 2020, we talk about webservers like we talk about trucks or something.

That rusty old piece of shit goes doe all the time

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that's a relatable feel

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:26 AM

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Depends on the classes. Here it’s 85% on general

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In***

wide chasm Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Oh okay.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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A => 4, so as long as you get all As and nothing lower you're 4.0

wide chasm Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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How much is an A in percentages?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Here, (idk about city), if you get an A+ that's a 5 so you can get higher than 4.0 thonk

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for me, it's 90%+

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Well so the thing is, I refuse to use anything but Kvantum and I started working on that POS when I was 16 and had no clue what I was doing

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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@void void heck yeah

wide chasm Dec 15, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Okay, so depending on where you live it's either 85%-100% or 90%-100%

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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So I end up having to remake components that clearly suck all the time, which sets me back lol

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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well

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all i have to say to that is

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noob

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Okay but where is your custom web server and framework you asshat

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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wtf is kvantum

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why do you need one

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use spring and nginx

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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It’s fun to use and I learn a lot more this way

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:28 AM

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write controllers

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D O N E

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Because I wanted to learn more shit and actually understand what I’m doing

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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I understand what I'm doing boi, doesn't mean I reinvent the wheel and write a custom stack

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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So kvantum and nginx is a far better combination for me 🤷

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:29 AM

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WTF

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is kvantum your project

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is nginx actually better than apache because i feel like apache has more support

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Apache is dying

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:30 AM

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nginx is the sexy older brother's friend that does crack and runs really fast

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LUL

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that is to say, he is not in the family lineage of apache

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apache SUCC

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:30 AM

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also honestly I don’t really give a fuck about web development in general. I much more enjoy tinkering with the server itself

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Networking is fun

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:30 AM

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k boi i agree but also

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web

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is

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future

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Yes which is why I made a web server. Fun, and practical 😛

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:31 AM

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there are now serverless solutions so you just write your routes and when someone hits it, it autoscales and runs the necessary code, so you dont even need to write a full serverside app. Although I do enjoy writing the server ends

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:31 AM

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The performance isn’t even that bad

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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ur actually writing a web server software?

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He's writing a Web Framework

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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It’s done. Just needs some love

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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oh god

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I wrote the server software and the framework.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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why are you...using nginx as well then

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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It’s been done for a couple of years now, but the more I learn the more flaws I find with it

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Pog

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 AM

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I use nginx as a reverse proxy and to deal with shit I don’t want to implement myself lol

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Pog

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this sounds so complicated

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 AM

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You don’t need to use nginx with it tho

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Link me to this kvantum

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:33 AM

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https://github.com/Sauilitired/Kvantum

GitHub

Sauilitired/Kvantum

An intellectual (HTTP/HTTPS) web server with support for server side templating (Crush, Apache Velocity and JTwig) - Sauilitired/Kvantum

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM

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also explain your gh username

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:34 AM

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For all intents and purpose, the project has been a success. I stared out the first year of high school

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I didn’t know anything about networking

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I knew nothing about performance either, tbh

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I didn’t know how the protocol worked etc

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:35 AM

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nbd bb

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:35 AM

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And now I know.

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No one should realistically use kvantum for anything tbh but I’m still going to 😛 We use it at IntellectualSites, and it works pretty well

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:36 AM

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man i need to dip out of cs before it's too late and switch to computer engineering

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Kappa

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:36 AM

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I’m studying computer engineering lel

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Hell, kvantum is probably the reason why I’m doing so well at uni

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:37 AM

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I'm considering switching to CE...

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:37 AM

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When we did networking I could just chill for a semester

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:37 AM

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I didnt realize CS is basically a research career

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Which while fun, is not what I'm looking for

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a degree is a degree. what matters is who will hire you

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Also city explain! your! gh! name!

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:37 AM

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Anyway, so I ended up severely over engineering kvantum

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

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u could probably get any tech related job with cs or ce degree 🤷‍♂️

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

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I wrote a custom logging framework, event bus, plugin framework, command interpreter etc etc etc

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

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yeah true but I think the ce degree path has more engineering related stuff

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while cs has more research related stuff

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stuff being classes

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

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CE here is a mix of traditional CS and CE

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:38 AM

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You do a lot of hardware in CE though I'd think

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM

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It’s a 5 year programme with loads of focus on both engineering principles but also formal mathematics and theoretical CS

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM

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where is here

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S W E D E N

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YO :Pog:

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Yeah, so we have to study a bunch of electrical engineering as well

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:39 AM

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That's kinda what I wanna do. I took one (1) engineering class and I enjoyed circuit design

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Would do again

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is aikar swedish

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Nah he’s murican

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:40 AM

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hell yeah 🇺🇸

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🦅

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:40 AM

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I liked digital electronics and all that but I do way better in mathematics and theoretical CS

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As it’s a 5 year programme we get an integrated masters and I’m probably going to focus on mathematics at that point

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 AM

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meanwhile

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📎 unknown.png

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wut

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owned by -2 nice

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uid overflowing and wrapping over?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:42 AM

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About my github username, I picked it because I used it at spigot

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:42 AM

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that's the hyperuser, superior to the the superuser (uid 0) and the ultrauser (uid -1)

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doubt

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lul

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:43 AM

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So I dyed my hair black yesterday and now I get a spook when I look in the mirror

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It hasn’t been this dark since my emo phase circa 2014

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:43 AM

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send selfie

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ok good conversation im gonna dip because i don't live in sweden and it's 3 am here

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:43 AM

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I need to redye it first lel

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I missed half of my hair

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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ok send when you do

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in that case

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SEND SELFIE

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I need to laugh

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Am feeling sad

radiant dome Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Actually no

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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:(

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Don’t laugh at my misfortune

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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I'm laughing anyway

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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My grandma thinks I’m satanic

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:44 AM

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As she should

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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And she wants me to go to church with her

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To look at the men in dresses

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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You know simple, city the retard actually suggested a pretty good way for you to make money out of this cancer

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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yeah ads

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probably put one or two on the generator page

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thats it tho

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Every 10th request to the banner is an ad 😂

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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lmao

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i mean hey

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that's uh

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Juat have it display an mcprohost ad every 20 requests bro

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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That was my idea

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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possible Pog

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Stop stealing my ideas you German cunt

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Mcprohost overpay for their ads

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Take advantage of it

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Pog

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Can someone ban mini

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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No

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He helps me code

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Kickban

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To add insult to injury

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:46 AM

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Is there a comparison between the anti-xray engines papermc uses?

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Anti xray pog

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

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It looks like I was born in the middle of Siberia and that my uncle is a polar bear

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Heard it was the most optimized anti-xray ever implimented in mc. Just wondering.

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

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I can’t pull this color off anymore

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:48 AM

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@void void https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/server/configuration.html#anti-xray

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Also totally off topic but someone asked my dad if he was an Arab and now he’s super depressed because he’s a bloody racist and I find this hilarious

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:48 AM

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thank you, @void void!

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2 is a bit heavier, but more effective

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to put it short

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(It has never hurt my server tho)

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I'd go 2

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What about chunk-edge-mode?

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3 is good

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.optimize

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

[GUIDE] Server Optimization⚡

In memory of frash23

Iɴᴛʀᴏ
Spigot/Paper offers settings that greatly improve performance. This guide breaks down suggested values that get the most...

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:50 AM

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also use that guide

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Wait what

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Why does it say in memory of frash23

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

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He passed away.

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Who was he

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And why’d he pass away

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Big contributor to spigot in terms of guides

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and, well

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bluntly. suicide

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Tf

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:52 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-legacy-unforgotten-frash23.250894/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Praise - A Legacy Unforgotten: @frash23

Hello everyone,

Today, I would like to honor the legacy of a person who was not only one of the top contributors to the SpigotMC community, but who...

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We also lost ChefJava and Shortninja to the same

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I believe

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And possibly one other

thick jetty Dec 15, 2019, 11:54 AM

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void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:56 AM

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What would setting anti-xray > chunk-edge-mode: 1 do?

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Just send the unobfuscated edges of chunks, or not send the edges of the chunks at all?

#

setting them both to 1?

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i think that would result in unobfuscated chunk edges yeah

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:59 AM

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How did you guys even find out he was dead

void void Dec 15, 2019, 11:59 AM

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One of the community members was an IRL friend

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Ah

void void Dec 15, 2019, 12:00 PM

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This guy https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-legacy-unforgotten-frash23.250894/page-2#post-2504747

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

Praise - A Legacy Unforgotten: @frash23

Whenever I saw frash's distinct avatar, I would go out of my way to read what he had written. He had an excellent reputation in my book. On the ball...

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

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That’s like my biggest fear, to have died but no one of my online friends knows what happened

vague helm Dec 15, 2019, 12:12 PM

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strange ruin Dec 15, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Hey is paper 1.15 stable

void void Dec 15, 2019, 12:15 PM

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yes

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if you get a bug report it

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take backups as always

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Any way to pre-generate chunks in 1.15?

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is WB not updated

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What's WB?

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WorldBorder plugin

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that's how you typically pregen

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Yeah it doesn't say 1.15 but latest review confirms it works on 1.15

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Alright, sweet. Thanks.

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btw 1.15 is still shitty with generation so

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It's gonna be fun while they're genning

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But afterwards it'll be ok

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So afterwards server should run really good

#

compared to not pre-gen

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Should

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Yes

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slim pier Dec 15, 2019, 1:25 PM

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kind island Dec 15, 2019, 1:31 PM

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eeeeeh maybe not the right place for this but caaaan someone help me how i can make so people can go to other worlds on my server?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Multiverse plugin

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 1:40 PM

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@void void this one? https://dev.bukkit.org/projects/multiverse-core didnt find it on the spigot site o.o

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Yeah

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It's an older plugin, still on dbo.

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Still updated though

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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it sounds advanced o.o

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:42 PM

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It's pretty much the premiere multiworld solution for bukkit

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Now, when you take the step up and do multiserver instead (or in complement), then you use waterfall :>

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 1:43 PM

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buuut im just gonna have 1 server but another world on it o.o?

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or u mean if i ever get more servers in the future?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:44 PM

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the latter

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 1:48 PM

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is multiverse hard to use?

elder sable Dec 15, 2019, 1:48 PM

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if you cant read, yes. anything will be

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Hey simple, tldr on the difference between waterfall and bungee?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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tldr is it's what paper is to spigot

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fork with betterments

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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What does waterfall patch then

elder sable Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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stuff

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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look in the patches folder

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Im on da fone

elder sable Dec 15, 2019, 1:52 PM

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im on my life

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:52 PM

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sucks to be you

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Not the first time i hear that sad_pepe

elder sable Dec 15, 2019, 1:52 PM

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🔥

void void Dec 15, 2019, 1:53 PM

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lots of network stuff, forge is a first class citizen, some api changerinoes

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lots of perf

#

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Masterscape 🤔

elder sable Dec 15, 2019, 2:04 PM

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nobody's welcome

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unless you brought tacos

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I just farted

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Was it wet

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wet fart

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yum

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i've never been more disgusted in my life mikro

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that's my kink

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uwu

#

my fiance literally told me deadass that she has a shit fetish

#

and after asking me 15 times to shit on her face and me saying no fuck that she finally told me she was joking

#

she asked me that while nonchalantly doing her makeup

#

was she really joking then?

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Thonk

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Yeah that was my thought

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But I'm not bringing it up

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yeah better leave it as-is lol

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

#

possible to add diffrent plugins to diffrent worlds?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:23 PM

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no

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There is a plugin called PerWorldPlugins but that's janky, and if you're trying to do that it means you want multiple servers.

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 2:24 PM

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shit on my face simple

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:24 PM

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ok

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not without really ugly hacks. better modify plugins to support that feature themselves

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pwp handles only commands

#

oh

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but does not tap into listeners

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:25 PM

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rip

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i wanted one world to be skygrid :/

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Isn't that part of just world gen?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:25 PM

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and most of the game is well... modified using events

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:26 PM

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it kinda is world gen i would say but there is a plugin for it

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that generates on server

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/skygrid-1-13-1-14-4.66996/

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Doesn't it generate for the worlds you specify?

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:26 PM

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idk how to specify a world for it

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i havent gotten the plugin yet tho

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Can someone remind me again why do people here like to optimize for XY problem even when the person is sure about what they want/need?

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:28 PM

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according to the config u might be able to specify a world for it

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:28 PM

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wat

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we don't aim toward XY problem, we aim away from it. if someone knows what they want and are not asking in an XY way, then it's not the XY problem

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Then do I go in circles every time I ask a technical question here?

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:29 PM

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No you just ask properly.

kind island Dec 15, 2019, 2:29 PM

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plugin is 3 bucks and i dont wanna risk losing my cash for something that wont work for me :/

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:29 PM

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The XY problem is very specific and if you have it, you're not asking a good question. Period

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I thought I did.. https://i.imgur.com/Z4VtZdN.png
I don't see how does that make it seem I have the XY problem..

Imgur

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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XY = has problem X, but comes to chat and asks about solution Y. they do not mention X at all, just "how do I do Y". Most of the time, Y makes no goddamn sense because Y was the attempted solution to X, which they didn't know how to solve. so attempting to answer Y wastes time.

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I know what it is btw

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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That's XY because you're asking how to apply NoAI and NoGravity, which is Y. What's X?

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I asked what was the best way to apply two NBT tags... spent two hours to get a working reply by just going in circles

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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What are you trying to do that leads you to think you need to apply those tags

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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There's no need to know X when I know very well what I want to do.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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It's all about asking a good question and giving context, even if that is the proper solution - the point is we don't know that because we don't know what X is

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You're only asking Y.

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yes, because I only needed Y. 🤔

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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If you want proper help you have to give context to the problem

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Next time I'll ask better questions. Thanks for you time.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:32 PM

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nick, why are you asking the same thing again?

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didn't we like

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

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I'm not asking it again

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

#

answer to you for a while ago?

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

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basically he wants to apply those tags because he has entities in the world currently that don't have those tags and he wants to prevent them from moving before server ticks them

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

#

see thats good info

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

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That was solved some time ago, but it still took longer than it should've

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:33 PM

#

very important to problem

#

so just include it at first

#

so let's go deep into the problem

#

and dont waste time

#

it's your fault to waste time

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you wasted your own and others

#

why do they move

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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before server is ticking them

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 2:34 PM

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you are gonna break his heart

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:34 PM

#

who gives a shit

#

wasted time is worse than a broken heart

#

because you can't buy time

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:34 PM

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is that a baltic proverb

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:34 PM

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but you can buy a lambo where you feel better crying

#

;)

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

#

thinking_gun

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

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you can also buy hearts

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

#

Well I think it's because they're floating atm and are at specific positions if he were to load those chunks server would tick them and they would move

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

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in p2w 1.8 pvp server yes

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Or you can go Liberia style and just get some children and take their hearts

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a la general butt naked

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:35 PM

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thonk

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City never ceases to disappoint everyone. /s

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

#

African warlords are brutal, man.

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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no u

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

#

He and his soldiers used to drink the blood of small children before going into battle

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

#

do you remember that "Kony 2012"

#

thing

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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oh yes

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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they were also cannibals. Now he's a priest 🙂

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Butt_Naked

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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risky click of the day

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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o, preacher*

#

not priest

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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jk

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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he used to fight naked which is kinda badass

livid crown Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

#

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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smart too

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:37 PM

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"Blahyi said in 2008 that he killed at least 20,000 people and carried out regular human sacrifice and cannibalism of children."

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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lmao jesus

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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that's not even that far from now thonk

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11 years ago isn't that much

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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nah the liberian war is pretty fresh

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So the entire story of the country is pretty fucked up

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When slavery was abolished in the US, loads of former slaves moved to Liberia. It was arranged by the US to give them an opportunity to build their own society

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first thing they do when they arrive is to enslave loads of the local tribes to force them to work in their plantations

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...

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Well

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Learn from the best...

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I'm sorry

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btw @potent warren this is a gr8 section of http://xyproblem.info
https://f.jacob.engineer/3fNrwsqx.png

The XY Problem

Asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem

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Especially last sentence :>

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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"In Slaves to Racism: An Unbroken Chain from America to Liberia, Benjamin Dennis and Anita Dennis argue that the Americo-Liberians replicated the only society most of them knew: the racist culture of the American South. Believing themselves different from and culturally and educationally superior to the indigenous peoples, the Americo-Liberians developed as an elite minority that held on to political power. They treated the natives the way American whites had treated them: as inferiors. The natives could not vote and could not speak unless spoken to. Just as American Blacks were prohibited from marrying or having sexual relationships with white women, the natives could not marry Americo-Liberian women. Even when some natives became educated, they were excluded from government positions, except for a token few.[20] Indigenous tribesmen did not enjoy birthright citizenship in their own land until 1904.[9] Americo-Liberians encouraged religious organizations to set up missions and schools to educate the indigenous peoples."

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So yeah they pretty much left the US in order to not be treated like shit, to Africa where they treated the Africans like shit. Ggwp.

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Rip

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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what's today's history lesson about?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Liberia!

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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slavery and its repercussions on slaves

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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sounds sexy

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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and yeah, I guess that

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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upsidedown people

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obviously

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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and what happens when they go back to being normal people after being slaves

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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my favorite kind of people

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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they turn fucking evil

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that's what

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(also im high AS FUCK so my wording probably sounds big gae)

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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The excuse has always been that "they didn't know any better"

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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simple: I know what the XY problem is.. no need to explain it to me..

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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but the same can be said about the slave owners at the time

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they participated in a society they had inherited, and benefitted from a system that was the only system they had ever known

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Well, your question was XY in a sense...so...I mean. If you knew, why ask.

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yeah city

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:45 PM

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which is why I find the whole "your ancestors were slave owners so you owe us money now!" deal to be so dumb

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I'm headed to bed

6:45am

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:45 PM

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wot

void void Dec 15, 2019, 2:45 PM

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and same city, that is a really stupid argument

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and unfortunately very real

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have heard in person. spoken

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ok bed time

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spr high and sleepy

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kisses @heady spear

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goodnight

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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@void void have you reconsidered your future marriage ever since the discovery?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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discovery of what

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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he just said goodnight you goof

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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make some sense you russian fuck

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 2:52 PM

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were you talking to yourself

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doubt

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 2:52 PM

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or maybe both, who knows

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 3:04 PM

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feelsOldMan

📎 image0.png

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I bet billy doesn’t know what a vibe check is

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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it's also kind of the unfunniest and most stupid meme to have ever been thought of

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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i dont know either

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but it sounds retarded

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like anything millenials do

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smh

ruby ridge Dec 15, 2019, 3:18 PM

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zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Rekt^

granite salmon Dec 15, 2019, 3:43 PM

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It is pretty dumb

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Kenny although this meme is rather shit im willing to argue there's a few other ones that are even worse

foggy elbow Dec 15, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Hey ! Do you know if there is a solution to reduce FPS drop caused by HolographicDisplay ( or invible armorstands )?

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With 10 holograms my FPS drop from 350 to 230 :c

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What do you use ?

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(But for me that's nothing, but for player with very small computer that's a big problem ^^ )

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What do you use for holograms ?

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I don't know how to reduce update in holographicdisplay

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But you don't want to say the plugin you use ? 😂

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10 holograms, that's not big

void void Dec 15, 2019, 4:01 PM

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.optimize

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimization⚡.283181/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft

[GUIDE] Server Optimization⚡

In memory of frash23

Iɴᴛʀᴏ
Spigot/Paper offers settings that greatly improve performance. This guide breaks down suggested values that get the most...

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:02 PM

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what

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that's server optimization

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he has FPS lag

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do people even read the chat?

foggy elbow Dec 15, 2019, 4:03 PM

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😂

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 4:05 PM

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2019

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reading

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plz

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:05 PM

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:(

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I yoinked wot it's just too sexy

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:05 PM

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at least ask first bro

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 4:06 PM

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wot

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i also have mfKek

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mfKek

quasi valley Dec 15, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I'll only steal the bean one, enough thievery for today

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:08 PM

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mfRee1 mfRee2

worn ember Dec 15, 2019, 4:13 PM

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what

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whatson

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wtf

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:26 PM

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guys take care of your buttholes

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mine hurts and it's very annoying

tame pendant Dec 15, 2019, 4:27 PM

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That's a little concerning

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:27 PM

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we already told you to stop trying to put increasingly large things in it

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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also happy you can use a plugin for that

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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o he wasn't very large

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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"he" was a fucking horse weeb

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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it hurts today city?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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smelled like one for sure

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i'm glad my cock made your ass hurt city

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but maybe this isn't the place to discuss this

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:29 PM

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weeb aka mr hands

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:29 PM

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this channel should just be #gaysex tbh

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:29 PM

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also excuse me for forgetting to put some deodorant on tho

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:30 PM

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god damn wikipedia has a massive article on mr hands

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:31 PM

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the tutorial leader for our physics class is hitting on me on snapchat

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i wonder if he grades the homework and shit

limber knotBOT Dec 15, 2019, 4:31 PM

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do it for the As weeb

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:31 PM

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he's weird

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:31 PM

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@void void if you found a bug and fixed it, maybe make a PR instead of uploading random jars on discord yea?

celest coyote Dec 15, 2019, 4:32 PM

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sus

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:32 PM

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he's also greek and they have a poor economy

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:32 PM

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just like you

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i don't see the problem

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I am most certainly not greek

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yeah but you have poor economy

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:33 PM

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and I happen to have too much cash atm and now they want it all for taxes

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:33 PM

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personally that is

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:34 PM

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im many things but im not poor

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:34 PM

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i'm tax exempt for another 3 years yeeeeeet

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I need to pay 25% social costs, 30% income tax and then another 10% because I've sold services to a non-EU country

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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what the fuck

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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social fees**

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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30% income tax

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do you make like

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5 million a year

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I pay around 53% taxes on my earnings lel

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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what the fuck

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here people pay up to 50% income tax if they make like fuck tons of money

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

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income tax is bracketed

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Here people of all incomes pay the same amount

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_2019-12-15_at_5.36.22_PM.png

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some people end up paying nearly 75%

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

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this is also why we have shit welfare/health insurance/etc issues

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:37 PM

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where you from wiz

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Doesn't Israel have pretty good welfare and healthcare tho?

olive garden Dec 15, 2019, 4:37 PM

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It has a nice iron dome

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:37 PM

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all of those evangelical Christians in the American south keeps sending y'all donations

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:38 PM

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it's good because you pay for it lmao

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not directly

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but you still end up paying for it

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not nearly as much as you would have to pay for it in the US tho

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:38 PM

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because they think that once the Israelites have returned to the homeland the apocalypse will be triggered

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:38 PM

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idk how people don't end up on the streets after a heart attack there

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:39 PM

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the book of revelation is scary shit

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:39 PM

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the book of what what

mossy raptor Dec 15, 2019, 4:39 PM

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heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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last book of the new testament

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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of

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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basically once israel is completely inhabited by jews the world will end

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and jesus will come down there and bring all the good christians with him

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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lmao

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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then tell the jews to worship him or they'll die

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and they'll be like "oof ok we were wrong"

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:40 PM

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i want to take the meth they took when they wrote this

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:41 PM

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but they'll only know it's jesus because his feet have scabs and shit

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so they'll be like "o ur jesus? ok we believe" and then they'll be zapped into heaven

tranquil ember Dec 15, 2019, 4:41 PM

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heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:41 PM

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This is why the evangelical Christians in the US are so anti-Palestine

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because as long as there's a muslim presence in israel they'll never get yeeted into heaven

celest coyote Dec 15, 2019, 4:45 PM

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yeah the republican party really wants the world to end

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all hail emperor trump

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:48 PM

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what's trump's last name btw?

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:48 PM

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star-lord

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It's Sir. Mr. Deity. President of the World Donald Trump Star-Lord the 1st

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Anyone know of a good Factions fork updated for 1.14/1.15?

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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make your own fork

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they are all garbage anyways

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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good and factions don't belong in the same sentence

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I'm illiterate when it comes to code

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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hire a developer

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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thonk

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:53 PM

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wat

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:54 PM

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What's Mister_Fix got against factions?

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:54 PM

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the fact that the plugin basically ruined the multiplayer community

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PVP servers are cancer

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:55 PM

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What's your ideal server then?

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:55 PM

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personally i wouldn't mind anything else

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bonus if you're giving the players something new

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Factions as a concept is truly immedicable.

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:56 PM

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pvp communities in games where pvp is present are usually essential

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

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what

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

what

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

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what what

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

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what thonk

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:57 PM

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i agree

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if we didn't have 1.8 pvp servers, all our nice modern servers would be flooded with 12 year olds screeching about pvp

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:58 PM

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LMFAO

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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tbh I'm tired of "survival" servers that don't allow griefing, raiding, and pvp

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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well now we have owners looking for 1.8 support instead

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Quite frankly, I'm tired of MTM.

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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yes, how dare people want to play pve

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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We should get rid of him and find a better, more suitable replacement.

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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you're tired of servers that don't allow you to be a cunt to other players?

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Quite frankly, I'm tired of gay people who don't have a table and have "weeb" in their nicknames

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I mean they're pretty boring

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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thonk

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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ok homophobe

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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no one is making you play on them

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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are you like 13

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I'm just saying

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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go back to your shithole

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we don't care about you here

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I only like creative plot servers

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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LOL

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Brilliant

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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all other servers are trash

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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PvP is fun but it depends on what you really like from a game

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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We know that it's because of p3

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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some people don't like pvp

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some do

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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actually I've never used PlotSquared myself lol

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I do not

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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City, nub

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then why even work on it? 🤔

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I haven't played on plot servers since plotme was the goto plot plugin

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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City join my server, no plots creative free build with ranks you earn by playtime ;)

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Just kidding please don’t join my server.

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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hai

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am from pmc

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I don't play Minecraft

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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o/

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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gib op plz

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I played on a server that took PlotSquared and made it into a housing plugin thonk

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Minecraft is bloody boring

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I find anarchy servers to be just right, as they allow people to be who they are. Cunts, friendly people, neutral, etc.

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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ur bloody boring city

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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@golden gust i unironically gave op to someone like this just to see what they'd do

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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no one asked you @woven otter

glass vapor Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Gives the most freedom and varied experience

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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go sell your table

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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(((i had a backup)))

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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u too

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Noone wants my table

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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The fact that people use plotsquared is testament to the fact that you don't gotta write good plugins for people to use them

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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^^

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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you could also just not give ops any permissions

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and use a proper permissions setup

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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That can also be seen in a lot of premium plugins 🤔

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I mean just get a monopoly and people will use your shit 🙂

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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#PreachItSista

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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PlotSquared is popular because we bullied PlotMe out of existence

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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vanilla system is the only permission system you'll ever need

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Now who's gonna bully PlotSquared out of existence?

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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having a proper permission system wouldn't avoid using OPs all together because there's plugins that use the isOp() method wiz

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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create a plot plugin and keep it alive for more than a year and you'll probably do a good job of that

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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PlotSquared is popular because we bullied PlotMe out of existence
I wonder how you achieved this.

woven otter Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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dum plugins

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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you know how you fix that mister_fix

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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PlotZ was our competition but it was paid and the dude got all resources removed from spigot

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:03 PM

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yeet those plugins out of your server

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cuz they're bad

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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well yeah personally i could replace them myself but not everyone can do that

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can't really blame them

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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replace?

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Well, I've been working on an idea for almost two years and I'm yet to release 😭

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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City what happened there? Why did he get his plugins removed?

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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nah, just get rid of them

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don't need that trash around 🚮

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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lol idk

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md_5 never told him

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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by replacing i mean writing my own version of it

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Well that’s rough.

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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you're missing the point

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clearly you didn't need that plugin's functionality to begin with

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Can we get rid of Spigot entirely? /s

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

#

Anyway so we had some funny fights with the PlotMe maintainer and now he's pretty much the only active PlotSquared developer

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just make fun of everything they do and talk smack until they start working on your shit for u

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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lmfao

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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That’s really strange

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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at some point world edit used isOp

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?_?

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Maybe he’s secretly trying to sabotage it so PlotMe will rise again

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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worldedit always has used isop, and always will

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and it's always been configurable

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Alright I’m making PlotCubed

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Only logical succession

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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because by default people expect ops to get all perms

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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fix just yeet worldedit away

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you don't want that shit around

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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^^^

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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but it's a single config option to change that behavior

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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it's kind too late for this wiz

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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My creative server has no worldedit

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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😮

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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just like it was too late to enforce the EULA

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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for people who want to set up perms correctly

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Purely because of the fact is BAD

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(rekt)

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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city: cries in FAWE

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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ye worldedit is utter garbage

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I don't use fawe lmao

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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@heady spear by the way, what made you stop working on P2?

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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No but actually it’s because I don’t want cheats on my creative server :)

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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I use WorldEdit on my server and we build PlotSquared against the WE API

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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you have a server?

austere ivy Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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it’s creative not godmode, supposed to be pre plugin experience

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yeah kind of

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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idk the fact that I don't care about the plotsquared community at all, I don't make any money from PlotSquared and I have better things to do in life

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I don't make any money from PlotSquared
wow

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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answer my question you stupid swede

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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why is that surprising

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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that's what settled the deal for me, once donations dried up I lost interest 😄

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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most plugins don't make money

simple mantle Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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even premium plugins usually make nothing good

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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then why make it open-source in the first place if all you wanted is money..

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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... are you dumb?

potent warren Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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yes

pulsar wigeon Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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did he say he only wanted money?

zealous knot Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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tell that to the retard who wrote a 25 dollar chat clear plugin and sold 100 copies

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Dude, that's ez

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I am an adult. I study a hell of a lot, and I work as well. I need to be able to survive.

golden gust Dec 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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You release a premium plugin, then make it open source

heady spear Dec 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I won't spend my time working on a plugin that's mainly used by morons anyway