it works but it throws all kinds of errors in the console and fails to save things when that happens so you lose data
#general
unreal quarry
austere ivy
@unreal quarry, what's the alternative?
fallen oracle
Don't think there really is one.
unreal quarry
its been reported countless times, but has fallen on deaf ears
unreal quarry
its not open
fallen oracle
^^
worn ember
thats a shame
fallen oracle
Else it would've been made into CoreProtectX over a year ago.
austere ivy
Call it CoreGuard or BasisProtect.
worn ember
not like its a paid plugin
austere ivy
CoreDefender lol.
fallen oracle
The next version was supposedly being Open Sourced, but development stopped almost a year ago on it afaik.
austere ivy
GriefProtect, CoreProtect, -> GriefDefender, CoreDefender.
It's just the natural progression of plugins here.
Soon I'll be making NoBedDefender lol.
fallen oracle
It's just hard to improve a plugin that's not open source, which is a real shame, because that is a highly used plugin.
And starting something from scratch would take ages.
unreal quarry
i dont think you understand how licensing works 😛
void void
someone should resurrect prism
fallen oracle
I was thinking about that earlier.
void void
fuck, that was a good plugin
fallen oracle
That and LogBlock were highly used back in the day.
fallen oracle
Wasn't Prism special because it supported WorldEdit back in the early days?
fallen oracle
Fair enough.
austere ivy
LogBlock was definitely used back in the day but I've never seen/used Prism.
austere ivy
One thing I really liked about CoreProtect was how UNCONFIGURABLE it was.
worn ember
@fallen oracle did you end up doing anything with that project yesterday?
austere ivy
You put in your plugins folder, and you did nothing else.
No messages to configure, nothing to configure really, it just worked.
fallen oracle
Yup. Simple got a solid start on it last night. We talked through ideas for a few hours.
worn ember
noice
austere ivy
Prism on the other hand I heard was super configurable and tough to get started with, how was it for you, Glare?
fallen oracle
Still got a lot of work to do though. We need to do some code cleanup and design a WebApp for it.
worn ember
wanted to make something similar but might aswel just wait for you nubs to finish it instead
fallen oracle
Also need to get more background designs and font options cause the ones we've tested so far are ugly.
Brian I honestly don't remember. This was around 5 years ago. I think I used it for a few months so it probably was pretty easy for me to understand because that was before I got into plugin development.
austere ivy
What pröject, Glare?
fallen oracle
Yeah we were originally going to create our own backgrounds (and we still might) but we found some nice banner templates and customized them to our needs. We just have a lot to go still. But in all fairness, we've only put like 3 hours of work into it.
We're remaking the ResourceBanner project.
austere ivy
Hm?
fallen oracle
I currently host the mirror for it since the original author's host wasn't reliable and he quit doing development on it.
Last night we dug deeper into the code and realize how inefficient it was so Simple and I are rewriting it from the ground up.
heady spear
oof imagine working with simple
fallen oracle
They generate the banners that you see on the forums that look like this.
Simple is actually very nice to work with. He's intelligent and he also knows how to fuck around and have fun at the same time while working.
austere ivy
@void void is this true?
So why's he so rude to everyone during his stay here at Discord? ;p
heady spear
He's intelligent
lol you had me for a second there
heady spear
o right I used those ugly banners myself
austere ivy
City, what's Kvantum?
olive garden
what's GitHub?
austere ivy
Glare how's using Java for things on the web?
fallen oracle
It's not bad. Though I'll be happy to move away from what it's currently using.
This is a super rough draft of our new system.
Still have a lot of work to go.
austere ivy
It's amazing :D
fallen oracle
You'll be able to choose the color, font, etc.
unreal quarry
5 stars?
fallen oracle
You'll have lots of backgrounds to choose from.
heady spear
brian don't rate my old posts 😦
fallen oracle
The current one kind works but it's just messy.
heady spear
it's creepy
I hated the rounded corners of the old version
looked bloody dumb
also @austere ivy star the github repo if you're going to stalk me!
fallen oracle
But yeah the old ones look like this
heady spear
dropshadows + rounded corners was like very questionable
fallen oracle
We're going to have a very nice WebApp design so you can easily create your own banners and use them.
heady spear
does it just use the spiget api?
fallen oracle
Yeah
heady spear
coolio
fallen oracle
We wrote our own client for it.
fallen oracle
Great! We're just getting started so I'm sure you'll like the end-product a lot better.
And this time, the code will be readable.
And not something like this... https://github.com/Spookit/Septo.io/blob/master/Septo.io/src/thito/septo/io/HttpField.java
heady spear
okay but wtf
the entire septo source code is dumb
Kvantum >>>>>> whatever that is, to be fair. I should really start working on Kvantum again, it was fun
also httpfield?? what even, those are headers
making it an enum is super dumb too
now I'm upset
fallen oracle
Correct. It took me over an hour just to get the project to compile under maven. I only changed minimal things to make it work.
Didn't bother doing too much since I had planned to rewrite it awhile back
We're using Spring this time around and it's so much nicer. No CPU / Memory leaks so far.
heady spear
I hate those sImPle WeB sErVeR prOjeCts
either do it properly or use something that works
fallen oracle
Ikr
heady spear
I wouldn't even use Kvantum, and that shit isn't simple
and it's been proven to work
fallen oracle
Yeah I guess the guy just wrote his own little webserver for it.
heady spear
if you want to do anything at all, just use something established. Spring being the best option
fallen oracle
But yeah, CPU leaks.
heady spear
people do dumb shit like that all the time
making a web server work properly is hard
there are so many edge cases
making it perform well is even harder
it took me ~3 years to get something that works somewhat well lol
fallen oracle
Well apparently the guy was also making it into a JPanel GUI and then converting that into an image.
fallen oracle
I have absolutely no idea. Simple showed me how it is actually supposed to work and I just laughed looking back at the older stuff.
heady spear
why not just just one of those infinitely many javascript libraries for making images out of css
would have been way easier to style too
heady spear
Hell, why not just do it in PHP at that point
fallen oracle
Also there was originally no cache, it would ping SpiGet every time a banner was requested (as in loading a forum thread with someone's signature as a banner)
So it would be doing up to 50 requests to SpiGet a minute.
heady spear
...
strong cradle
true axle
heady spear
I will say though, at least I tried to use OOP principles
fallen oracle
Lol
Anyways so yeah the only thing I really changed on my mirror was adding a cache.
fallen oracle
Lol
I suppose php might work too but we've already started an planned stuff out with what we have so it'll probably be what we stick with.
vale lotus
heady spear
Ye I prefer java for all my web stuff
https://athion.net/ISPaster/paste/view/2972d7a84ac24a61a1a74e9ac8f18635
I made this design as a joke and apparently we're using it for both fawe and plotsquared now
Buuuut it's running on kvantum. I'm so famous. google should hire me
fallen oracle
What'll be fun is if we do testing against our new version and the old and time test to see which does better. Already is faster from what I've seen and we haven't even started on cache yet.
fallen oracle
Just straight image generation each time is faster. Almost faster than cached on the other.
heady spear
so the funny thing is that the site does no real filtration of the content. XSS injections would be ezpz
or well, I do realllllly basic shit
fallen oracle
What is the site for? Just for reporting / debugging PlotsSquared?
heady spear
ye
fallen oracle
How long do you guys save the schematics that people can save in game?
heady spear
and FAWE, I guess
I don't know, I think Jesse kept them indefinitely
then he ran out of space and the service went down for a couple of months
fallen oracle
That's not good.
heady spear
I was working on a more reliable alternative but then I got bored
fallen oracle
I strive to provide 100% uptime for everything I fun
Run*
I even keep an extra 6 months worth of credit on my OVH account in case something were to happen to me and I had to disappear
heady spear
I was too lazy to implement a database for the debug pastes
so it just saves them in a json file
fallen oracle
I mean that's not super bad.
heady spear
my rationale was that I wasn't going to deploy it myself and that Athion would hide to deal with the cleanup. This was after i was threatened with a GDPR suite
it's super bad because it does no cleanup
worn ember
cleaning is for girls anyway /s
fallen oracle
How much is it used? I know the plugin has a lot of users.
But like, is it going to get like 10,000 files a day or something?
heady spear
idk not that much
worn ember
wait what
heady spear
we added insane rate limits after a while
worn ember
what does GDPR have to do with this?
fallen oracle
I suppose you could add in an expiry but yeah I guess also a database would help
heady spear
@ViewMatcher(filter = "paste/view/<paste>", name = "incendo-paste-main")
public void servePaste(final AbstractRequest request, final Response response) {
final String pasteId = getNullable(request.get("paste"));
final boolean raw = request.getQuery().getParameters().containsKey("raw") &&
request.getQuery().getParameters().get("raw").equalsIgnoreCase("true");
sometimes I forget how sexy this API is
polar rose
fallen oracle
Yeah
heady spear
Oh well if it turns out to be a problem they can fix it
fallen oracle
Exactly.
heady spear
I'm kinda moving away from minecraft development altogether
so I'm not going to waste time future proofing a service I don't really give two fucks about
fallen oracle
That's totally understandable.
worn ember
but scamming 12 year olds :/
heady spear
Turns out that you can make more money by scamming adults
fallen oracle
I'm not really sure what I want to do yet. I do know though that over my winter break I have to do a bunch of life extending bugs so I can slowly move away if I need to.
Bug fixes*
If I can do a solid 5 hours a day for about a week, I'll probably finish most things on my list.
worn ember
"life extending bugs" thats a new one
fallen oracle
Hidden features
heady spear
I mean it’s been fun and shit but we’re launching our server soon and then I’m going to focus mostly on system administration. That’ll be the extent of my minecraft work
fallen oracle
That's fair
heady spear
I need to focus on uni and thesis work and shit instead. And like, making money
fallen oracle
Yeah I've been focused more on school so I barely touch my PC during the semester
worn ember
My college is literally programming so thats nice
heady spear
I’ve no idea if our server will take off or not but I get paid so 🤷
worn ember
well programming and networking
fallen oracle
During that time all the 12 year olds be yelling at me saying my stuff don't work and 90% of the time it's due to something they did.
heady spear
It’s a cool idea but the competition is good and it’s a niche market
Honestly tho doing computer engineering at uni then programming as a hobby and then programming at work... it’s losing the appeal
worn ember
yeaahh same actually
i'm at the point where i need to learn fucking kotlin and i dont want to
xD
not yet another language
fallen oracle
Why would I work on a homework assignment programming for 5 hours a day and then want to come home and do the same thing for MC
heady spear
Like yeah it’s cool and all but taking a break doesn’t feel like taking a break anymore
It’s just the same thing all over again but for a different purpose
fallen oracle
100%
heady spear
That’s why I got really into photography instead
fallen oracle
I love photography I just don't know much about it
heady spear
Turns out that’s a bloody expensive hobby tho
fallen oracle
It is
worn ember
so do lenses
fallen oracle
My phone takes good photos though
jaunty rune
Does anyone know of a Forge Mod Loader discord server?
worn ember
lmao
heady spear
????
heady spear
I should unblock dark
it's annoying having to open all messages
and now that I've blocked so many people I actually want to not see it's confusing
heady spear
they should have different tiers of blocking
like "hide this person a little" and "remove this person from the universe"
and also an option to make messages stand out, so that all messages from kashike are super noticeable
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Coding Adventure: Game Idea Generator - length 9m 25s - 698 likes, 3 dislikes (99.6%) - 4,837 views - Sebastian Lague on 2019.12.14
heady spear
he only uses one monitor so I like him already
people with more monitors have less brain capacity, it's been scientifically proven by God
worn ember
disables 2 other monitors
heady spear
why is his CSS better than 99% of self proclaimed web developers
limber knotBOT
Got fucking dammit
worn ember
ikr
limber knotBOT
Ryan Reynolds just cited Eminem in this move
This movie is such a meme
I love it
austere ivy
@fallen oracle thank you.
bleak apex
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=72ab6ba9cfd74814a74689c6c80c80fd
So can anyone help me please?
austere ivy
worn ember
what movie?
worn ember
lol everything on netflix is a meme these days
limber knotBOT
Basically, Ryan Reynolds in his best form
It's amazing
No, this is a blockbuster Action movie
Directed by Micheal bay (duh)
heady spear
A frustrating game about peace that takes place during a terrible disaster, where you play as a courageous gamer who wants to rescue a wizard with a debilitating fear of small spaces.
limber knotBOT
It's so over the top
heady spear
I would play this
"A game about hacking that takes place on the back of a good-looking whale, where you play as a faction of ants with a controversial opinion on education who will stop at nothing to eat more healthily."
o yes
A game about engineering set during an alien invasion, where you play as a pyromaniac with a tendency to spontaneously combust who desperately wants to repair the armageddon-device.
this makes a lot of sense
proud dagger
Are there any benchmark comparisons for 1.15 Vs 1.14 performance out?
misty swift
coarse kettle
limber knotBOT
Definitely
But you need to be ok with watching dum shit
It's just so over the top
But it's a great movie
Just finished it
The way they ended it they left an part two open, let's see ^^
sand creek
void void
D:
granite salmon
Demote wiz
golden gust
*Delet
quasi valley
Ping*
left swift
lol I started to look for the discord to see what's new today and couldnt find it
what did i do :o
left swift
no
golden gust
looked like some eta style joke
left swift
I made a eta joke?
granite salmon
1.16 when
quasi valley
A quick search suggests that you did. yea 
granite salmon
pulsar wigeon
i was authorized to use deadly force ¯_(ツ)_/¯
austere ivy
@unreal quarry @fallen oracle https://discordapp.com/channels/348680641560313868/471507285399830563/655535254626500609
nova badge
ACF updated to JDA4 :^) https://pomf.nachtraben.com/u/DFWJqqAa.png
golden gust
r i p
unreal quarry
I'll make him a site. But I'll hold it ransom until he fixes the potion meta bug
pulsar wigeon
intake has run on JDA4 for ages
pulsar wigeon
pfft
plenty of people used intake for all sorts of things tbh
i think someone forked it now
austere ivy
Intake?
pulsar wigeon
and is doing some other stuff with it
golden gust
pretty sure I tried to take a look at it a good few years ago
nova badge
What's Intake?
pulsar wigeon
command framework sorta thing originally written for worldedit
golden gust
Didn't bother with it because either >reading or lack of docs and being super dumb back then
(Not that much has changed there)
nova badge
I was just looking for something new and annotation driven
pulsar wigeon
i mean
void void
Don't fuck with wiz
nova badge
and acf was the only alternative I was aware of to our inhouse one
ancient bolt
my cat is sitting on my feet
pulsar wigeon
sk did annotation driven commands since 2011
void void
Jesus I was hella scrolled up
ancient bolt
such a wonderful feeling
unreal quarry
It's ok, cat. We're all dumb. We live around a fucking kids game
void void
But the point stands
pulsar wigeon
then rewrote it as intake around 2014 for moar power
pulsar wigeon
and then octy wrote piston recentlish to modernize everything
austere ivy
You'd be surprised how many non-kids like Minecraft though, just look at the sidebar ;p
There's a non-exhaustive list.
golden gust
Almost went to go pester her about docs, but figured I'd be nice; lol
ancient bolt
yes, we would all be very surprised
pulsar wigeon
it's on her list...eventually
austere ivy
The unfortunate thing with ACF though is that it hasn't really been updated.
golden gust
That's what we where saying about the paper docs too 
nova badge
Our inhouse was really really nice, but the og dev doesn't understand that I need more functionality to write effective code.
nova badge
told me "Its outside of the scope of the project"
austere ivy
It has been updated! Slightly! :D
pulsar wigeon
anyway i'm planning on migrating WG soon™️ so i'll probably be giving piston a lookover as i copy what's in worldedit
golden gust
I mean, Aikar just had to click the button
unreal quarry
Outside scope is just an excuse we use to be lazy
austere ivy
My PR still hasn't been accepted and it's just example docs.
golden gust
(Billy is just salty about NBT)
austere ivy
I tried to make the example docs helpful because goodness gracious I was so confused with their examples, they don't tell you how to do things.
Still hasn't been looked at but you can still look there if you need help with ACF.
nova badge
We need a context of where a command comes from on discord but his response was why can't you just parse the string
golden gust
ACF ain't really all that complex
golden gust
But, like; I'm also the type of person who delves into the code if I don't understand wtf it's doing, sooo
austere ivy
ACF seems like black magic to me so I just haven't dared to look inside.
unreal quarry
Acf seems like overkill to me
austere ivy
One thing is I don't understand why they don't just rewrite parts of the Bukkit API.
Change the command system.
pulsar wigeon
yea piston has some pretty crazy internals
void void
I like that GitHub can diff image changes: https://f.jacob.engineer/XNO3izSN.png
austere ivy
An API has to change just like Minecraft is changing, breaking changes have to come sometime, and it's like a bandaid, rip it off and you're done for the foreseeable future.
Man Simple how wide is your monitor??
void void
that was like, less than half of it
golden gust
Bukkit isn't going to ditch a system that works
golden gust
Be glad we got mojang to add the ask_command suggestion type 😛
nova badge
Anyone have a link to piston, having issues finding it.
golden gust
I mean ask_server
pulsar wigeon
enginehub/piston
austere ivy
Could you explain what that is? Sounds interesting.
granite salmon
REE
austere ivy
What's up, sam?
pulsar wigeon
if you ree one more time i'm kicking you
void void
Oh btw cat
golden gust
And well, bukkits command system is dumb
granite salmon
I’ll kick you to saturn
golden gust
But like, it works
void void
The old banner system that everyone is using for resources
nova badge
Oh boy, where's the docs x'D
void void
TO make the banner
It's using
fucking JPanel
and then painting the JPanel to a BufferedImage
pulsar wigeon
what docs
did you miss the convo nightraven
we were literally just talking about the lack of docs
unreal quarry
We should just join forces and start our own block game. We can call it PaperTale and make an announcement about it next week. Then we just sit back and let the donations pour in while we just shoot out screenshots of random stuff with vague descriptions to ensure people stay focused
nova badge
No I didn't, was more joking around with it.
austere ivy
Billy that sounds genius.
But we need a studio to go along with it.
What will the name be?
golden gust
But, at the same part, you can't really add a much more complex system without making an opinionated framework
unreal quarry
PaperStudios
austere ivy
No way.
pulsar wigeon
opinionate!!!
austere ivy
Electronic could you elaborate on what ask_server is btw?
golden gust
Sponges system is more close to brigadier, but like, people get upset with how "complex" it is
pulsar wigeon
getCommand("").setExecutor() is for scrubs
golden gust
tf do you think it means?
void void
Name the game studio Trash Generation Incorporated
golden gust
It literally asks the server for the completion response vs using a built in from the client
briagadier suggestions are client-sided
golden gust
It does
fallen oracle
I ol
austere ivy
well I guess it does because if it was constantly asking the server it'd be laggy and slow
granite salmon
unreal quarry
Paper Incorporated Software Studios
austere ivy
understandable so why is ask_server useful, then?
just means that it'll .. ask the server?
limber knotBOT
Bone was going to make all completions client side before a.ikar harrased him for weeks
golden gust
Yes...
austere ivy
how would the client get that information in the first place?
golden gust
e.g. So you can use plugins to provide a response
austere ivy
How does the client get the information on command suggestions in the first place?
Is it like.. every so often? When the player joins? When the server sends a signal?
limber knotBOT
We were chatting in irc for a while with bone
golden gust
The server literally sends the command structure to the client
austere ivy
Then the client caches it?
golden gust
Yes
limber knotBOT
Yes
granite salmon
Yes
unreal quarry
Yes
limber knotBOT
Yes
ancient bolt
No
granite salmon
Smh mini
unreal quarry
Maybe
austere ivy
Is that a yes or a no? I'm kind of getting mixed feelings here.
pulsar wigeon
maybe
granite salmon
Perhaps
pulsar wigeon
idk what the question even was
austere ivy
Poor wiz constantly confused.
limber knotBOT
The question was is wiz a dum dum
heady talon
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Red Velvet 레드벨벳 'Dumb Dumb' MV - length 3m 23s - 1,024,909 likes, 41,370 dislikes (96.1%) - 123,535,472 views - SMTOWN on 2015.09.08
Uuff
Get that weeb shit out
golden gust
mfw
limber knotBOT
Weeb shit
austere ivy
Electronic so you seem knowledgable.
limber knotBOT
!kick MiniDigger mffw
unreal quarry
At least they're real girls and not some cartoon bs lol
austere ivy
Player joins, server sends a packet of the command tree, client caches it.
In the command tree is there information about whether or not it's ask_server and if it is, the client then again asks the server?
Is that kinda right or..?
limber knotBOT
That did hurt
golden gust
The command structure contains information about arguments
one of those argument types is "ask server"
pulsar wigeon
the only thing more amusing than weebs defending their weebness is people justifying hating on weebs
🍿
placid thicket
golden gust
Go look at the protocol docs or something
austere ivy
wiki.vq whatever?
golden gust
.vg
fallen oracle
I too prefer to turn JPanels into images.
austere ivy
That doesn't have any functionality of regular Minecraft server but just at least sends packets to the client.
And maybe mess with them a bit.
limber knotBOT
Took me 2 days
.g minicraft GitHub MiniDigger
(MiniDigger) https://github.com/MiniDigger/MiniCraft -- MiniDigger/MiniCraft: Clean room implementation of the ......: "Clean room implementation of the minecraft server (and client!) using java and netty - MiniDigger/MiniCraft."
The hardest part was packet decoding and encoding, then it's just implementing packets
1080ti cause 20 series sucks
granite salmon
RX 590
unreal quarry
Gtx 970 here. Nothing worth upgrading to yet. Not at current prices at least
limber knotBOT
But like, it's amd
limber knotBOT
They need like 5 years to catch up
limber knotBOT
But many, Dem ryzen corez man
austere ivy
Minidigger.
limber knotBOT
Man*
limber knotBOT
FreeBSD
austere ivy
Nice job.
ashen cliff
Cheap knockoff Linux.
latent valve
Onboard graphics beat everything!!!
ashen cliff
It has "better" networking support... For Intel only cards.
limber knotBOT
What did you want Brian?
golden gust
probs just wanted 2 sai dat ur bad
limber knotBOT
Not us bad us u dtho
austere ivy
Mini where's your main in that project?
golden gust
Dun mek mi com over der
unreal quarry
restarts electroniccat's speech module
austere ivy
What is it now?
limber knotBOT
But if you got the low level packet handling adding a client is easy
austere ivy
I'm forking it and calling it TehCraft, lol.
limber knotBOT
You should really try to do packet handling yourself
austere ivy
I'm very good at chopping code down and making it look nice but I'm not good at writing code, this is perfect lol.
limber knotBOT
It's a great learning experience
austere ivy
You're right I should.
limber knotBOT
That project was my first time dealing with netty
golden gust
God, reminds me, I really need to go over the netty book thingy
ashen cliff
I'm waiting for Shev to give us PS 1.7.3, so I can finally use TrueCraft.
austere ivy
Is netty useful?
golden gust
one of the many things on my todo list when/if i get better
austere ivy
Oh yeah.
Made this a long time ago, it's in the middle of a "refactor" that I never got around to.
So it's all messed up.
But it actually worked once!
limber knotBOT
Anyways, I gotta go sleep, want to waste a bunch of time overclocking this 12 core monster tomorrow
austere ivy
then I think I broke it.
golden gust
nite
austere ivy
o/
austere ivy
Mini wait
I'm pretty sure you have a nice monster but
trust me
overclocking this bad boy
I get at least 60 fps in minecraft
limber knotBOT
You made me come back to took at disgusting apple hardware? Pfff
austere ivy
so uh if you want any help, feel free to contact me
limber knotBOT
I'll just annoy @Micheal to help me
worn ember
how does this relax my eyes exactly?
ashen cliff
Don't really know, but counting them seems to work.
worn ember
my eyes? yea it usually stops after 2
worn ember
mienkraft?
granite salmon
JAJAJJAA
cosmic raft
no
void void
this is cute https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344740247902617600/655547748770250753/banner.png
granite salmon
Minecraft: Addiction
cosmic raft
void void
@heady spear thoughts?
worn ember
@granite salmon i was listening to this song "bla bla bla" and it was saying "ja ja ja ja" as you typed it xD
that was quite funny
pulsar wigeon
simple that thing is fucking blinding
void void
Lel
pulsar wigeon
ow
worn ember
the inconsistent margin triggers me
pulsar wigeon
those lines literally leave an afterimage, wtf did you do
void void
which lines lmao
pulsar wigeon
vertical stripes
void void
I must be blind, cant seem em
cosmic raft
THE LINES
pulsar wigeon
that also has lines
worn ember
REEEE
void void
ARE THERE LINES
cosmic raft
yes
void void
WHAT
granite salmon
Wtf
golden gust
Look above the cost
granite salmon
The plugin
void void
i wonder if it's the antialiasing i just applied
golden gust
Look closely at the background
granite salmon
no features
void void
hold on lol
is there any public trusted travertine fork that cancels the book exploit of jessica?
golden gust
god fuckin' damn it simple
fallen oracle
Oh shit yeah if you zoom in, I see lines too.
worn ember
simple working on a 240p monitor
void void
okay i can see them lol
fallen oracle
Our biggest struggle right now is finding good backgrounds for the banners.
pulsar wigeon
i fucked with the colors so you can see them
void void
lmao WTF
fallen oracle
Have those always been there? The heck?
worn ember
@fallen oracle i can make you some if you want
granite salmon
Pls tell me why a voteparty is worth $10
worn ember
you could generate them though
void void
it's not the antialiasing is it? it has to be the banner template we're using lol
worn ember
usually slight gradiant offsets work fine
fallen oracle
Yeah it's the template
worn ember
and some not harsh colors
fallen oracle
Dear God
pulsar wigeon
yea lines still there
fallen oracle
We're scraping thsoe
void void
i turned it off to see if that's where the lines were from lel
but okay we'll change the bgs
fallen oracle
Alright back to the drawing board for backgrounds
cosmic raft
this game literally lets you play music from an online radio in-game
worn ember
i used to have a minecraft radio mod
fallen oracle
What are your guy's thoughts for backgrounds? Should they be solid colors or what?
zealous knot
i prefer or what tbh
cosmic raft
@fallen oracle https://i.imgur.com/uSyhuQH.png
that's my background (terminal is transparent)
fallen oracle
Not bad
fallen oracle
We just need a nice banenr style that would work in multiple colors
limber knotBOT
Redcarred2: discord name?
pulsar wigeon
what's your discord name?
granite salmon
Wiz probably went mad
limber knotBOT
gimme a sec
worn ember
@fallen oracle you could make some little overlays and stick them on there, like the stars from the current banner
limber knotBOT
its !!!!!!!Jolly_Santa#8317
limber knotBOT
why?
limber knotBOT
☑ Lord of the REKT
pulsar wigeon
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ Eat, sleep, REKT, repeat
pulsar wigeon
you get the idea
worn ember
lmao
limber knotBOT
Well wheres the ban appeals?
fallen oracle
Alright yeah we're scraping all our current backgrounds
pulsar wigeon
definitely no by ban evading through irc
ashen cliff
🗑️
worn ember
You gotta be pretty rart to get banned here tbh.
pulsar wigeon
"hey i probably broke the rules why don't i just evade the ban"
granite salmon
I’ve been kicked 3 times and im not banned
limber knotBOT
oof
worn ember
no u
fallen oracle
Whoa dude
granite salmon
Ban
swift isle
fallen oracle
Uncalled for.
limber knotBOT
Like your mother on her death bed
granite salmon
Banned
granite salmon
Wiz favourite time
mossy vessel
Sometimes I'm wondering what's wrong connected in some peoples minds smh
golden gust
He says in a block game discord
limber knotBOT
!kickban Redcarred2
ashen cliff
How to get banned from IRC 101.
granite salmon
now f off
mossy vessel
Can you not pl0x 🤦♀️
fallen oracle
Lmao.
limber knotBOT
ugh i opened IRC for nothing
unreal quarry
aww, i was actually reading that
limber knotBOT
Welcome to the Spigot IRC, where all the magic happens
granite salmon
bruh moment
limber knotBOT
runs
worn ember
drama 🍿
swift isle
Looks like I came in at a bad time.
worn ember
its the time of the month again
golden gust
always a bad time to join a block game discord
zealous knot
that's rich coming from you
swift isle
Wtf is a block game
swift isle
I need sleep
worn ember
me: lets do the thing
compiler: 
granite salmon
30m till sunday quick break rules
swift isle
I realized what he meant right after I hit send.
worn ember
zealous knot
golden gust
Not in public man
granite salmon
golden gust
Well... erm....
granite salmon
I hope you like my gif
zealous knot
reee kashike is sending tiddies in general
zealous knot
hey what's wrong with animated tiddies bro
golden gust
I got no my space on my drive dedicated to that
fallen oracle
3D > 2D
worn ember
@spare venture im checking if images contain parts of other images
zealous knot
actually, this discord has so many people that im sure some of you fuckers unironically enjoy minecraft porn
golden gust
Just make a neural network
fallen oracle
Dang, calling him out.
cosmic raft
lol
worn ember
and i'm not sure my sample pool is large enough
zealous knot
yeah dark this is def. NN work
worn ember
NN's are just if statements anyway so if i write enough if statements it'll become sentient by default
isn't second life some porn sim?
golden gust
That's probs why he joined
zealous knot
i bet he logs on just to piss them off
swift isle
The more I read. The more intrigued and concerned I become.
cosmic raft
not going near that part of it barty lol
normal sphinx
zealous knot
tbh second life is strange
cosmic raft
you can avoid it
worn ember
inb4 "the furry zone" is a thing
zealous knot
or at least was 5 years ago
golden gust
Eventually the concern goes away, and you're just left with intrigue and self-doubt
swift isle
What is the furry zone?
zealous knot
should i give it another try kash?
ashen cliff
I logged into my 2009 account I think, clicked delete account, went back to home page, logged in again, now I can't click the delete account option again.
Good game, don't play it.
swift isle
I’ve never played second life tbh
cosmic raft
just need to stay away from certain areas if you don't want to see certain things
worn ember
met any cute grills?
zealous knot
is it free or subscription? i forgot
worn ember
pphardlife
swift isle
Just be a furry in real
granite salmon
Don’t google
granite salmon
google tracks
cosmic raft
free @zealous knot
zealous knot
oh epic
cosmic raft
but it has premium apparently
zealous knot
i should try it again
last time i did was like 5 maybe 7 years ago
i didn't understand what to do
swift isle
Does it run on Mac that’s the real question.
worn ember
its a browser game im pretty sure
swift isle
Browser games don’t do well on macOS
void void
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344740247902617600/655554252453707816/banner.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344740247902617600/655554332304998401/banner.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344740247902617600/655554563457155113/banner.png
any better?
zealous knot
why is that in java though
granite salmon
Now it’s just
worn ember
bruh those are the most default backgrounds you could make
void void
yeah i didnt make em
granite salmon
Lmao
void void
downloaded, scaled
swift isle
Browser games tend to trigger macOS’ built in energy saving features.
void void
kk good feedback thx bb
swift isle
And get flagged as a potentially problematic webpage.
cosmic raft
but not great
worn ember
trust me i have a degree in design
zealous knot
you have a degree in being a kaasop
golden gust
3.6 roentgen
zealous knot
or whatever it was
worn ember
*kaaskop
void void
freepik blocked me from downloading
worn ember
and thats stef smh
void void
they're on to me
worn ember
kek
fallen oracle
I just change my IP when they stop me
void void
then do it for me
fallen oracle
Got examples?
zealous knot
what's radial lol
worn ember
no
swift isle
What is freepik
worn ember
bruh this isnt google search
void void
I'll send you $5 if you make us like 8 random solid color radial bgs 300x100 @worn ember
fallen oracle
Interesting
zealous knot
BRUH 😩
swift isle
You brought it up so of course I’m going to ask you
void void
freepik is an image asset download site
fallen oracle
I kinda like these
hazy eagle
void void
png pl0x
worn ember
oh right Yafa
fallen oracle
Just stick a resource image in the middle here and call it good https://www.freepik.com/free-vector/retro-background-with-rays-label_5432148.htm#page=2&query=radial+background&position=21
zealous knot
wow
worn ember
bruh
zealous knot
this is the ugliest image iv'e seen in a while
granite salmon
It’s time we have a chat.
zealous knot
it's even worse than leaf's last pfp
worn ember
@void void dimensions?
void void
300x100
stuck badger
should i buy a server for like 100 or pay monthly for one?
zealous knot
neither
void void
i mean are you gonna collocate if you buy it
zealous knot
you should give up because you will never recoup that wasted money doing minecraft servers
stuck badger
i dont care about profit
stuck badger
and i like the idea of having a room thats too loud to go in
zealous knot
not sure i'm following you
stuck badger
ok
granite salmon
zoomer
stuck badger
ill just buy a few servers off of a blowout sale or something
zealous knot
im liking this new cloudflare analytics page
stuck badger
what sites do you tun?
zealous knot
many
stuck badger
my cloudflare doesnt show any info for my mc server
zealous knot
because cloudflare is for websites
stuck badger
yeah is there a better dns management thing for servers?
granite salmon
bruh moment
zealous knot
i haven't ventured elsehwere tbh
golden gust
dns really has nothing to do with it
Thing here is that CF acts as a proxy for websites, so it gets to see all that info
stuck badger
domain management my bad
golden gust
counting DNS queries, etc; would be unreliable due to how DNS works
zealous knot
yeah but he probably has an SRV record for his server
fallen oracle
Hmm how do you get it to show analytics for all sites at once?
golden gust
there are tools like plan, however; for analytics
stuck badger
i have mc.(my domain) to 25565 and ptpanel.(my domain) to 443
zealous knot
electro
which one of you has papermc on their cloudflare account?
like the website
golden gust
z
zealous knot
ah
zealous knot
they probably use like a digital ocean or an OVH VPS
or some other questionable VPS provider
granite salmon
Some fucking what?
granite salmon
Sounds like i need it
zealous knot
wow you almot sound like my 80 year old grandpa
void void
they also have a cream you can use instead of a patch
i use it on my shins a lot after running
but i fucked my neck up somehow when i woke up yesterday
still hurting D:
granite salmon
I fuck my neck up all the time help pls
golden gust
grandaddy simple!
void void
.kill electroniccat
limber knotBOT
slices electroniccat's limbs off with a polished axe.
granite salmon
.kill electroniccat
limber knotBOT
puts electroniccat into a sack, throws the sack in the river, and hurls the river into space.
fallen oracle
Did you sleep incorrect?
zealous knot
my neck gets fucked up from all the pussy im eating
golden gust
I mean, simple doing something correct, lol
worn ember
i got a few so far
lament crystal
elfin lily
void void
wtf
fallen oracle
Rart
worn ember
Fun fact: Matrix is womb in Latin. So you literally be putting your numbers inside a wemen 
unreal quarry
inside a wemen
worn ember
yis
inland fiber
zeeeeeeeeeeeee
worn ember
animal abuse
inland fiber
dw she can hold it
void void
https://imgur.com/a/kuyD8bB Can I get some feedbackz now?
These designs are ala @worn ember
Going to do some realignment bc its triggering him but, color wise?
worn ember
me: makes anything
whole server: dies
golden gust
r u mojang?
worn ember
"color wise"
fallen oracle
Do you have a good font suggestion, wiz?
golden gust
am gonna say no just cos fuqu
pulsar wigeon
brb registering a really long username
worn ember
move the image to the right a bit more
void void
yeah wiz thats a problem
same for resource names
However I can write something to determine length of text w/ font choice and resize the text down
Or truncate it
Or make that an option
worn ember
other than that it looks alright i think
worn ember
yeah
limber knotBOT
god that font looks aweful
void void
well, taking recommendations. Still a problem we're facing
worn ember
now you could move the text left a bit so it has the same margin as the image and border
limber knotBOT
Roboto is nice
worn ember
and so overused
worn ember
might aswel use arial then kek
pulsar wigeon
i made that joke already :<
void void
I have roboto in the project lul, let me try it
worn ember
imagine making the same joke 3 times