general

[worn ember]

i like how it starts english

and then suddenly goes to german

[limber knot]

there are buttons at the top for language selection :P

[void void]

You want to buy me a beer, pizza or new site design?

[limber knot]

;)

[austere ivy]

Actually could someone try testing if the SRV records work for them before I start harassing my ISP?

[void void]

yes what if i want to buy you a new site design

what will be your answer

what site design

[worn ember]

dogecoin

[limber knot]

just give me money, mate

[worn ember]

you tell him

poosy

[austere ivy]

barty would you mind testing out my server's SRV records for me?

[limber knot]

@spare venture shouldn't be too much work to move from 1.13 to 1.14

[austere ivy]

I'm checking the DNS on my computer, my computer is getting the DNS SRV records just fine

[limber knot]

but it's kotlin so no thanks

[austere ivy]

my gash darn mine cartf is not workng

[worn ember]

kotlin 😦

[limber knot]

last commit was in august: https://github.com/BenWoodworth/FastCraft/tree/dev :S

it's not java

runs

it's kotlin

[austere ivy]

barty can you just join the server thingy?

Uhh, what do you mean what srv record did I set?

I'm not trying to grab your ip what hek

[worn ember]

its just annoying to have to learn another language that pretty much does the same thing lol

[limber knot]

happy thanksgiving. Am trying to figure out how 2 mock not just the interface but also when I call a method that returns a different interface. E.g. when I mock a Player and I call player#getInventory I'd like to also have it mock the returned inventory instead of having to do a when(player.getInventory).thenReturn(mock(PlayerInventory.class);

[austere ivy]

just

[limber knot]

if you want to be mocked you definitly came to the right channel!

[austere ivy]

just please help me

[limber knot]

*get mocked, I guess

ur serbur is as bad as ur questions

[void void]

good luck with that my sweet sweet child Robo

[worn ember]

no u

[limber knot]

am trying 2 test driven/behavior driven development

[worn ember]

in mc?

you must be new here

[limber knot]

last time I wrote a unit test was in a class years ago

[worn ember]

i dont think many people write tests for mc plugins

[limber knot]

most ppl write dum plogenz 2

[worn ember]

true but it seems pretty annoying to run tests

[limber knot]

afaik there was a bukkit testing setup floating around somewhere

with fake server and all

[worn ember]

your server no lag cuz no one playing on it

yes

well technically thats infinite

[limber knot]

y serbur wen i can mock it all

[worn ember]

well then ur just bad

0> 1

[limber knot]

u sure they aren't mock(Player.class)

[worn ember]

must suck to suck 😉

i member running modded servers

good old days

before i knew java and paid people to patch exploits and bugs

[limber knot]

the other thing I want is a neural network MC bot so I won't need any human players to fill my serbur anymore

[worn ember]

just use a bot

dont waste time on a NN

nub

[limber knot]

i want something more than a dum duck bot

[worn ember]

why dont we have any NN plugins yet?

[limber knot]

zombiestriker made some

problem is im 2 dum 2 figure out how 2 use his framework cuz math is very hard

[worn ember]

agreed

i cant even use vectors lul

any got a must play game?

[austere ivy]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/isp-doesnt-support-srv-record-lookup.8221/

[worn ember]

im looking for something else to play than dota

[void void]

i can resolve srv records without issue

[austere ivy]

This is fine.

[void void]

o mac

on

[limber knot]

overwatch is free 2 play until dec. 4

[void void]

shame

should be turned off until dec 4 insted

or permanently

[austere ivy]

blizzard should be turned off

permanently

OH

MY

[worn ember]

not my type of game really

[austere ivy]

GOSH

HOLY GUACAMOLE

IT'S OPTIFINE

[worn ember]

lmfao

[austere ivy]

this has been

[limber knot]

I like it it's like 3d awesomenauts but idk what's gotten into blizzard

[austere ivy]

4 weeks of stress

[worn ember]

👏

[austere ivy]

and headbanging, because of OPTIFINE

[worn ember]

thats what you get for using hacks

[austere ivy]

well headbanging against a wall, not death metal style

[worn ember]

ur banned

servers probably dead lul

[austere ivy]

Part way I'm happy because it's working, the other part of me is extremely angry that this was the cause of my distress.

[worn ember]

its always the stupid things that fuck you over Brian

[void void]

not thinking to try on an unmodded client first

Think Like Brian(TM)

[austere ivy]

simple it's OptiFine I don't even think about it,

[void void]

it's still a mod

now you should think about it.

dumass

[austere ivy]

and also what kind of stuff is OptiFine doing that it's messing with SRV records?

I mean you're right but

[void void]

report to optifine

[austere ivy]

I already put it in their discord

[worn ember]

gaywars 2

haha

sue them

[austere ivy]

I need a walk, my gash

[worn ember]

I need friends 😢

kekw

whos the loser now

i didnt lose $60

[void void]

what game r u talking about now

i have that a fuckin cd somewhere

[worn ember]

lol what? I don't own 139 games

104 tools

[austere ivy]

also what does everyone think about the new steam UI

I mean I like it but it runs at 5 fps

yeah.

[void void]

havent seen it

pic

looks the same to me lol

except for like that lil preview page

[worn ember]

i like the new UI

its a lot cleaner

[cosmic raft]

kill me now

I'm going to hell

private static final Pattern PATTERN = Pattern.compile("\\[\\)>\\u001E[0-9]{2}\\u001D[0-9]{2}([A-Z][0-9][A-Z][0-9][A-Z][0-9])\\u001D([0-9]{3})\\u001D([0-9]{3})\\u001D((1Z)([A-Z0-9]{8}))\\u001DUPSN\\u001D([A-Z0-9]{6})\\u001D[0-9]{3}\\u001D\\u001D.*\\u001D10\\u001DN\\u001D\\u001D(.*)\\u001D(.*)\\u001E\\u0004");

[void void]

ah yes

regex

my favorite

[cosmic raft]

:))

[worn ember]

tf you making that you need such a mess xD

[austere ivy]

https://github.com/sp614x/optifine/issues/2917

[stuck badger]

just made a linux vm

forgot the login

oof

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-sheldon-gif-5408039

[stuck badger]

i installed it over like 4 hours during work

well

time to reinstall

[void void]

https://f.jacob.engineer/egWHbVhW.png

if it's a cloud server you might be able to reset the root pass w/o a reinstall

[stuck badger]

vmware

[void void]

https://giphy.com/gifs/foxtv-35EpkElYuNCaXzLXNA

[stuck badger]

lmao

[potent warren]

ermmm

[limber knot]

uh thats why i could no longer connect to some servers

[potent warren]

what OS is it?

[stuck badger]

ubuntu server

[potent warren]

are you able to boot into recovery mode?

[stuck badger]

i already deleted the vmware file

[potent warren]

;-;

You can literally reset it without reinstall

[stuck badger]

its short anyway

[void void]

https://giphy.com/gifs/selena-gomez-hate-jealous-Jlsz81x2c62Vq

[potent warren]

https://askubuntu.com/a/24024

[limber knot]

or if you are smart, you already have pre-made images ;)

[potent warren]

oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stuck badger]

didnt think of that

gonna get one

[limber knot]

re-imaging is a lot better then doing fresh installs from scratch lol

install everything you want, configure it. then, just save the image, ironically most VM software have the ability to make periodic backups of the image as well

[stuck badger]

so how do you setup that bot thing frost?

[limber knot]

it is a bridge bot that bridges irc with discord. I am on irc

[stuck badger]

is there a github?

[limber knot]

not sure would have to ask one of the main paper people lol

[stuck badger]

how do i get it?

[limber knot]

I am just a person that periodically helps others :)

[void void]

im pretty sure this is the bridge bot https://github.com/korobi/Korobi

the one that does this howeber

.kill DoctorDop

[limber knot]

feeds DoctorDop to an angry kraken.

[void void]

is another bot

[stuck badger]

pls kill simple

oh oof

[limber knot]

xD

[void void]

.lart DoctorDop

[limber knot]

turns over DoctorDop to Agent Smith to be 'bugged'.

[stuck badger]

ahhh

.help

[void void]

nvm it would appear the actual bots sauce is not available

[stuck badger]

.commands

.cmd

[void void]

you're going to need to join irc to use that bot fully, dont spam discord

.help works but sends you a pm which doesnt work on discord

[stuck badger]

ok

[limber knot]

irc is better ;)

[stuck badger]

can i get a screenshot of irc?

still have no idea what it is

[limber knot]

IRC is a chat protocol

you can use any client that you want with it

think of it like email, just with chat (and without the cool decentralization of email :S)

[stuck badger]

so u can chat in a mc server?

[limber knot]

e.g. my client looks like this: https://i.moep.tv/ba5o58hr.png and runs in a screen session on my server xD

sure

there are plugins for that

[stuck badger]

so u need linu

[limber knot]

no

there are clients on every platform

[stuck badger]

what client do u use?

[limber knot]

irssi

it runs in a linux terminal xD

[void void]

hexchat is a good choice for windows, or if you're new to irc in general

[stuck badger]

10 bucks

[limber knot]

I use hexchat ;)

[void void]

dont use the windows store

download it from https://hexchat.github.io

[limber knot]

yeah don't use the windows store, windows apps in general suck as well

[stuck badger]

yea

oh how do u set it up with discord

[limber knot]

windows doesn't support IRC

eh

[golden gust]

korobi is not the bridge bot

[stuck badger]

hexchat

[limber knot]

discord

meh, it's way too late for me

[potent warren]

.stats

/stats

there was a command 🤔

[void void]

then correct me daddy @golden gust

[golden gust]

Bridge bot is on Zs github iirc

[limber knot]

hexchat connects to irc servers. Not discord

[golden gust]

Her u go sun https://github.com/zachbr/Dis4IRC

btw, ur dum

[limber knot]

the only reason I can talk to you while I am on irc, is because the bridge bot relays the chat back and forth between the two services

[void void]

thanks babe @golden gust

[limber knot]

so that's why tagging is broken, he made his own thing

[potent warren]

Is there a similar system on IRC where bots can send special messages with different names?

[stuck badger]

i literally have no idea what this be so yes i am dum

[limber knot]

yes NickAc, it's called joining a server and a channel

runs

[potent warren]

sigh

[limber knot]

(bots are just normal users)

[void void]

you would just send a raw msg to the channel, no

with your desired nick

it works

[potent warren]

well, then why doesn't the bridge bot do that? 🤔

[golden gust]

IRC basically expects stuff like nicks to be tracked by the client

[void void]

thats how some bots send msgs without actually being in the channel

[golden gust]

Only ways to change the nick consistently would be spammy

[void void]

wellll

if you dont join the channel and just send raw msgs to the channel as needed, then you can change as much as you want w/o spam

;)

git gud

[potent warren]

So, why doesn't the bot do that

inb4 blame Z

[golden gust]

Wouldn't help for tryna auto-complete nicks or anything either

There is no gain for it

[potent warren]

make a protocol extension for that /s

[golden gust]

And it would require opening up the channel to allow messages from those not in the channel which has it's own downsides

[void void]

Oh well actually you kinda need to join the channel to /read/ the messages

but to send them as they're received from discord, not necessary

other way around is the problem

[golden gust]

I mean, the IRC server could easily have a module designed for it for that

[limber knot]

eww, the bridge uses JDA and not Javacord

[golden gust]

Heck, there was some post a good while back where it looked like md was intending to add something like that to the network

[potent warren]

Javacord? wat. is that a thing?

[limber knot]

an actually good java discord library

and not the pos that jda is

[potent warren]

🤔

what about kotlin

[void void]

i kinda like jda

[limber knot]

let me show you something about jda...

[potent warren]

I haven't used JDA so I can't argue at all 😄

[limber knot]

just look at this abomination of a class http://git.io/Je1tH

[potent warren]

oh my

can we kill it with fire?

[void void]

interesting

[limber knot]

after I saw that I looked for alternatives with a proper event system and javacord seems to do a better job imo

[void void]

so javacord doesnt support audio

how nie

nice

[limber knot]

there's a fork for that

[void void]

lmao

[limber knot]

or well, multiple actually

[void void]

sounds like a fractured community to me

[limber knot]

you mean like an active open source development community? xD

you can't have PRs without forks, lol

[void void]

yeah but its not been merged for over a year now

theres an issue from 2018 saying audio is WIP

still not merged

so everyone sits there and forks and adds their own audio

pretty trash

[limber knot]

nah, it's just not at the state where people are fond with merging stuff

[void void]

on a sidenote, i found a wild github phishing site from a google search https://github.dyf62976.workers.dev/Javacord/Javacord

(do NOT log in there)

[limber knot]

ofc some hacked together shit is useable

[void void]

(looks legit tho)

[limber knot]

wow

[potent warren]

ok WAT

[limber knot]

lol nice find

you should report it to github, maybe it will make it into their security notes I receive everyday :D

I mean they literally just copied the html and link to github styles xD

[potent warren]

It's also hosted by this https://workers.cloudflare.com/

[void void]

but the projects are there so maybe using gh api or smth?

[limber knot]

https://i.moep.tv/dktfkCHN.png xD

[potent warren]

using uMatrix

[limber knot]

inb4 that's just part of github's backend infrastructure, lol

[void void]

^

It might be

Bc seems legit

But I reported it anyway

[potent warren]

well, it's most likely not lmao

[limber knot]

@void void firefox flags https://github.dyf62976.workers.dev/ as a phishing site, weirdly it didn't with the rest of the link only the base

[potent warren]

What did you do xD https://i.imgur.com/oPB2n2I.png

that's not firefox

[void void]

yeah it flagged for me at root as well

[potent warren]

That's on Cloudflare

[limber knot]

my browser I use is Firefox

[void void]

i checked to see if it flagged before i sent it here saying it was a phishing site :P

[golden gust]

idek what phoenix is on about

That interface class is 10/10

[limber knot]

I just thought it weird that it only does it for the root and not if you include the rest of the link

[golden gust]

Would merge into simples face/10

[limber knot]

[potent warren]

I just thought it weird that it only does it for the root and not if you include the rest of the link
Probably Cf just being a big derp

[void void]

That would be a net positive cat

So thank you

[limber knot]

lol

@potent warren cloudflare doesn't warn me, its my browser that does

cloudflare doesn't really care about the site you are visiting anyways

yeah, cloudflare warns me on the root page too xD

[potent warren]

well, look at the root page.

It does warn

[limber knot]

Well guess mine is different

[void void]

does it matter who is doing the warning

[limber knot]

so cloudflare actively cencors the web now, gg

[void void]

the fact that it sends a warning

[limber knot]

because its my browser warning me XD

[void void]

is enough

dumasses

[potent warren]

Firefox didn't warn me

[limber knot]

I think it is good cloudlfare censors its customers that attempt to use their service for malicious reasons ;)

[cosmic raft]

agreed

[limber knot]

well, it really depends on what you consider "malicious" doesn't it?

[fallen oracle]

You know how Africa is really far away? What else is really far away? THE MOON. Coincidence? I think not.

But wait, there's more. Philosophers and scientists have philosophied and scienced for eons on how the moon came to be in the sky. I have discovered how. So, according to the 27th law of thermodynamics, heat rises. What's the hottest place on earth? AFRICA. What kind of natural resources does the moon have? No food or water. You know what else has no food or water? AFRICA. What color are people in Africa? Black. Why are they black? So they can see eachother in the pale white moonscape. If they were white, they would just blend in. So according to this science, the history of the moon is as follows: Africa is super hot, so it rose up into the sky and is now the moon. Therefore, Africa = the moon.

[limber knot]

e.g. a company could consider content of a competitor "malicious"

[potent warren]

[void void]

@fallen oracle the hottest place on earth ever recorded was death valley california

dumass

[limber knot]

assuming their competitor is using a competitors service

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pulsar wigeon]

not as hot as loot crates

[void void]

you mean surprise mechanics, wiz?

[limber knot]

I don't really see a problem with loot crates

unless its excessive I suppose

like, needed to play the game or something.

why play a game with loot crates if you can just gamble and play a game that IS loot crates? :think_smart:

the only thing I would say in regards to loot crates is that they should be regulated under the gambling laws though since technically it is still virtual gambling especially if real money is involved

rip barty

lets hope Microsoft fixed the issue where windows writes over the MFT

[golden gust]

lol

[limber knot]

I think what is more hilarious is that when microsoft fixes something, either they make it worse or they actually do fix the problem but end up creating another problem that is just as bad or worse lol

shift del is a bad habit

just delete it directly with shift+delete?

or, you know, disable teh recylce bin, lol

I just set mine to delete permanently

but otherwise it sux cuz u guys sux and made them abandon windows 8.1 and phone

windows 8 was terrible >>

it used less resources than 7 and 10

its the OS where they completely forgot that non-touch screen computers eclipse those that are XD

it is true that they did a terrible job making ui elements discoverable

but other than that I used that stuff on my desktop PC

hot corners were great

because then it would be linux @spare venture

and I could have the start screen open on another screen

so I could use it like a dashboard for notifications and stuff

user experience was fine besides discoverability, I liked hot corners

windows 7 to me is by far still the best OS they made. Windows 10 I really dislike due to how they implemented certain things

you should use linux then, gut ux, compatible with everything important and no bloat

runs

*good

for instance runtime broker runs even though the application you are opening is not an app, but its a background task only for apps. Very annoying -.-

pagefile = swap

yep

if someone maintained something that was as smooth as windows phone/windows 8 on linux I'd switch

but nothing's remotely close

hiberfile = hibernation storage

[golden gust]

hiber is for hiberation and potentially fastboot

[limber knot]

hiberfile is for hibernation

hibernation file is equal to the amount of ram you have

then you have fast boot enabled

most linux UIs feel like this weird blend of Windows XP and mac

[potent warren]

that's because they are

[golden gust]

if your pagefile is massive then you're using muuuch more memory than your system has

[limber knot]

RoboMWM: you should try i3

pagefile is configurable as well

[golden gust]

Because a pagefile makes sense

fastboot is one of those dumb "we can't make the OS perform well, so we'll just hack it"

[limber knot]

my pagefile is stored on an SD card ;)

[golden gust]

rip

[limber knot]

using 22.8 of 27.4 committed memory mmm

rip that card

[golden gust]

How many SD cards do you burn through?

[limber knot]

if ur using chrome well duh

[fallen oracle]

NameCheap has a BF deal starting in 80 minutes.

[limber knot]

Not very many since its not dynamic

[golden gust]

pagefile is not related to your ram amount

[fallen oracle]

Up to 99% off stuff.

[limber knot]

windows seems to recommend 1.5x the memory

pagefile is statically set

[stuck badger]

i just did pufferfish panel i need help

[golden gust]

the pagefile will grow as needed to meet your requirements

[limber knot]

u cant

if you allow windows to control the size of the pagefile

[stuck badger]

it only has paper mc 1.14.2

[limber knot]

it depends on the pagefile settings

unless you disable and restart

[stuck badger]

not 1.14.4

[void void]

you can disable paging on windows tho

[golden gust]

Windows controls it dynamically by default iirc

[limber knot]

then you can and you'll get some nice linux OOM like behavior

by default it does

[void void]

barty https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-performance-tweak,2911-4.html

[limber knot]

@stuck badger there should be an option to upload custom jars

[void void]

first section is disabling page file

[limber knot]

I have enough ram though that generally I don't use paging anyways

disabling pagefile is the dumbest thing you can do

anyone who says disabling pagefile for ssd is dum

[stuck badger]

do i just setup a paper and then upload it

[limber knot]

if you have an SSD you should just statically set the size of the pagefile instead of letting it be dynamic

[golden gust]

I erm... yea...

[void void]

im not advocating that you should disable it, im giving the answer unlike you fux that dont give any info and just virtue signal all day :D

[limber knot]

giving answer as link

k

[void void]

at least i gave something bich

[limber knot]

not using tab hibernation in any chrome based browser

rip

windows + pause/break, advanced system settings, settings in performance

generally paging in windows becomes useless once you have 16gb+ ram though

[golden gust]

Yeaaa, I gotta get around to installing that and setting it up properly sometime...

[limber knot]

shouldn't it just not touch the pagefile ever if it has enough free memory though?

idk I have 16GB ram and it's using some of it cuz I have 22GB committed

[golden gust]

"enough free memory" is subjective, however

[limber knot]

just install the "The Great Suspender" extension cat

oh, right, it's windows we are talking about, my bad

[golden gust]

Even linux will swap before it's needed

[limber knot]

if you have a pagefile windows will make use of it regardless RoboMWM, but if you have 16GB+ having a pagefile or not is very little difference in performance wise.

[golden gust]

Saying that, swap size on linux is generally fixed

[limber knot]

system uptime of 44 days

is it on automatic? or manual?

[golden gust]

if it allocated that much, you pushed it to needing that much

steal my precious bytes

using windows

[limber knot]

I just have the pagefile on my HDD for when the system ever needs it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden gust]

Ur bytes can't be dat precious

[stuck badger]

do i have to port forward 5656 so it can connect to itself?

[limber knot]

currently at 28GB apparently, lol

[golden gust]

port 5656? wut?

[stuck badger]

daemon

[golden gust]

deamon for what?

[limber knot]

connect what to itself? o.O

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/e7/2009/05/05/support-and-qa-for-solid-state-drives/

[stuck badger]

pufferfish panel

[limber knot]

I mean that article is from 10 years ago

SSDs were shit back then

[golden gust]

if you're not expecting the system to communicate over the public network, you don't need to port forward

[void void]

why are you using pufferpanel

that's the bullshit thing that ptero forked off of

[stuck badger]

cuz i feel like it

[limber knot]

well even more reason to have stuff on SSDs

[void void]

ptero is better

use ptero kthx

[limber knot]

it's advocating to use your SSD for stuff tho lol

[stuck badger]

ik

[limber knot]

in case you skimmed too fast

[stuck badger]

ptero is a pain

[limber knot]

I just would trust more recent research more, especially after people actually had a good amount of real world experience with different setups

(not arguing for one of the two directions here though)

wow u rly showed it who's boss

hmm

its the hibernation file

wut ever could it be

if you want to resize it, then open command prompt as admin and type powercfg /hibernation off

then restart

do u even know what hibernation is

[void void]

hibernation can be turned off if you dont use it, hibernation is retard shtuff

[limber knot]

just get a cheap 2TB drive or something, lol

then when you log back in just do the same command except instead of off use on

and then you will have hibernation again

and the file will be resized appropriately

but if you don't want hibernation just leave it off ;)

its saves the state of the desktop as it is

then shuts off

it's standby but saves on disk

so ur PC can turn off completely

when you start the computer it will be as if you never turned it off

while still saving your session like standby

so that's why it's equal to or less than the amount of ur ram

it's pretty cool when it works, lol

I generally keep it off unless I need it

always works for me??

standby isn't the same as hibernation

[stuck badger]

would that be a udp port forward

[limber knot]

well it didn't for me, had Windows bootloop when I last tried it out xD

now, hybrid standby or whatever that is I haven't tried testing

u must hav dum drivers

probably

you can turn hibernation off while still keeping sleep

this system is something like 8 years old or so xD

sleep still consumes power since its not completely off

however the downside of disabling hibernation while on a laptop is that your laptop won't save its state if its low on battery

We had a machine with a (apparently known) bad graphics card that causes issues with waking from standby

it will just shutdown instead lol

some nvidia card, and it causes the machine to post 3 times on startup

interesting

if that is the case I recommend removing the battery

to not kill it

well I don't need it but I'll keep that in mind if that ever happens again

but u lose the built in ups if u do dat

doesn't matter if the battery is new or not, if you keep your laptop plugged in all the time it will kill the battery faster

lol wutdahek r u doin barty

and ruin its ability to retain a charge

no it's heat that kills a battery

wat

only if you have a dumb battery charging software

phone batteries don't work that way

[golden gust]

heat kills a battery

trickle charging also kills a battery

[limber knot]

proper battery charger firmware should not trickle charge the battery

every so often the kinds of batteries in laptops need to be fully discharged too btw to help retain its charge

[golden gust]

Lithum based batteries are super fun

[limber knot]

every 3 months it should be discharged fully to keep it in good condition

but I'm only used to T Thinkpads, no idea what other laptop brands are doing

um

[golden gust]

In my experience, they tend to leave hem basically floating around 100%, battery management in hell is pretty bad

oh, wow, brain gone

[limber knot]

full discharge not necessary unless you're trying a last ditch effort to recalibrate

it worked @spare venture

since it didn't say anything

which never seems to work

but for the file to get removed it requires a reboot though

else batteryuniversity says to keep at 50% if in storage

u can compress that

just delete System32

lemme find the command

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/mniehaus/2015/09/16/windows-10-reducing-the-disk-footprint/

I mean you could delete it, just make sure to create a linux boot stick first ;D

COMPACT.EXE /CompactOS:always

you should run disk cleanup @spare venture

run in admin cmd prompt or powershell

this way you can clear out log files and old windows install files

[golden gust]

storage vs cpu cycles

[limber knot]

and even system restore points you don't need anymore

[golden gust]

Downfall of using compact is that reading from the disk will be slower

[limber knot]

it's enabled for small disk system I guess but otherwise yes that above, most PCs ship with a ton of storage cuz ppl r like "lotso storage gud"

[golden gust]

But, theoretically, that cost shouldn't generally be a massive concern

[worn ember]

cats mom needs 500cpu cycles to complete

[limber knot]

reading from disk would be slower if CPU is bottleneck

otherwise it's faster, cuz less bytes to read from disk

I usually do a custom install of windows because the OEM generally creates a partition that I don't use at all lol

[worn ember]

just use ur ram for storage

[limber knot]

I have it enabled on one of my machines with a small SSD

[golden gust]

b...b...bbut... Gotta hab a recovery partition for all that OEM spyware

[limber knot]

I used RAM for storage once when I had a machine with 32GB RAM lol

also, I custom format my disk to use larger sector size as well

[worn ember]

yikes im running out too

[limber knot]

larger sector sizes with windows is quite nice especially when it comes to defragging

[worn ember]

time to delete 200gb of downloads

[limber knot]

defragging on large sector sizes is very fast XD

mee too https://i.moep.tv/kybejdux.png Kappa

[worn ember]

dont defrag ssd's wtf

[limber knot]

I don't have an SSD

[worn ember]

[worn ember]

wtf are these random disk sizes xD

[golden gust]

(first bunch of disks are the same, just containers)

[limber knot]

random?

I have a 2TB HDD and a 1TB secondary drive lol

then I have like 3 external 1TB drives as well :D

3TB is wen things get interesting

[worn ember]

[limber knot]

I have plans on upgrading my main drive to a 6TB

lol

[stuck badger]

im trying to do upnp forwarding but im getting this error ```INFO Saved preset 'ooof'.
ERROR Invocation (ActionInvocation) (Action, Arguments: 8) AddPortMapping failed with operation '500 Internal Server Error', body '<s:Envelope xmlns:s="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" s:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/">
<s:Body>
<s:Fault>
<faultcode>s:Client</faultcode>
<faultstring>UPnPError</faultstring>
<detail>
<UPnPError xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:control-1-0">
<errorCode>402</errorCode>
<errorDescription>PAL_UPNP_SOAP_E_INVALID_ARGS</errorDescription>
</UPnPError>
</detail>
</s:Fault>
</s:Body>
</s:Envelope>
'

[limber knot]

seagate apparently has them formatted with MBR and converts with their USB, or at least they used to. Was quite a surprise wen I took one out of the case and put it in my box

[stuck badger]

its worked b4

[golden gust]

Scream at whatever is providing the server?

We can't really provide support for random tools

[stuck badger]

its just upnp

[limber knot]

you mean they are sata drives RoboMWM ?

ya

yeah I already knew that

@spare venture that's a lot of porn (or just a good quality ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°))

[golden gust]

Soooo, scream at your router?

[worn ember]

i download my porn in 4k 360°

[limber knot]

Either your router doesn't support what you are trying to do

or the port is already redirected

[worn ember]

lmao

[limber knot]

so make your own tracker

[golden gust]

Either your router is pissed off for some reason, or the tool you're using is bad

[limber knot]

i knew barty wuz 2 cozy with his laptop

[golden gust]

Either way, just port forward properly, UPNP sucks

[worn ember]

never even heard of UPNP

[limber knot]

I've seen it disabled by default mostly

[golden gust]

For your average use it's fine, for services you actually care about, configure your router properly

am gun lie down

[worn ember]

all i can find is that its easily exploitable lmao

[golden gust]

Maybe I can have a nice dream of murdering simple or something

That would be sweet :3

[limber knot]

lol

[golden gust]

Erm, it's basically a way to open ports and stuff like that

[limber knot]

if you have an old router or a router that just doesn't care about security for upnp

[golden gust]

Only real "exploitable" nature of it is that it makes crap running on your system able to basically dynamically port forward without your knowledge

[limber knot]

run my serbur plz

[golden gust]

(which, has inherent risks akin to literally running anything on your computer that can access the network)

[limber knot]

the other exploit for upnp btw is using it for a self DDoS attack lol

[worn ember]

its the Hub all over again

[limber knot]

or using it to DDoS others unintentionally depending on its done too

I can float on 128GB SSD, get gud

[worn ember]

wth is this? I never installed fortnut

[limber knot]

uve been hacked by china

[worn ember]

😢

[limber knot]

never played fortnite and now that i no they in kahoots with em it aint touching any of my PCs now

[worn ember]

with who?

[limber knot]

plus shady stuff with steam

apparently their launcher copies stuff from steam if it's installed

[worn ember]

whats there to copy anyway

[limber knot]

lemme find where I saw this

[worn ember]

nice launcher

fukin epic trash

[golden gust]

... morons

[worn ember]

kekw

[limber knot]

https://np.reddit.com/r/PhoenixPoint/comments/b0rxdq/epic_game_store_spyware_tracking_and_you/

(RoboMWM) Epic Game Store, Spyware, Tracking, and You! : PhoenixPoint - 1,069 comments, 2,347 points - notte_m_portent, 8mo ago

[golden gust]

Drivers needed for reinstalling the os

Well, 'needed'

[limber knot]

at-everyone dumcord is dum

[worn ember]

It can probably tell you to download their 50 tools to fix it for you

[limber knot]

the partition is there so they can save money on a disc

and depending on how it's setup if you make a recovery disk via the windows tool you can opt to have it deleted after you create one

[golden gust]

That partition isn't needed for recovery these days, the os already includes that

[worn ember]

pretty sure you cant just delete it

[golden gust]

It's just oem junk

[limber knot]

ya u sure pretty much can delete it

unless it's the active partition it isn't used afaik

why is it lying?

[golden gust]

That's the disk

[limber knot]

u have more than 1 disk on system?

[golden gust]

Not the partitions

[limber knot]

o man

dum dumcordians

cue the epic battle of Gibi and Giga bytes

[worn ember]

we know

[golden gust]

Basically, burn a Windows DVD

Delet them

[limber knot]

why burn a dvd wen u can make usb

but yes

[golden gust]

Sane people do clean installs anyways and get away from the extra unneeded crap that your oem shoves on there

[limber knot]

if barty just lerned how to modify pagefile I don't think he's capable of bricking his machine

[golden gust]

Hey

Hav u tried dd yet?

[limber knot]

once on loonix 2 test disk write speed

some random command I got from internets

wrote a 1GB block o stuff

[golden gust]

Rip?

[limber knot]

which side was partition on

no rip. I rm'd it afterwards. c:

[golden gust]

Awh

[limber knot]

you can only expand to the right

[golden gust]

Reminds me of the time I tried to clean a disk with dd

Turned out that the disk I wanted to actually clean wasn't plugged in, however

[limber knot]

wat u do

nice

the MFT or whatever is at beginning of partition, so you can't expand partitions "to the left" or backwards

[golden gust]

You can't move the starting place of the partition without proper partitioning tools

[limber knot]

you can only shrink/expand the end

most recovery partitions are at the end but some are at the beginning

[golden gust]

Ez option is generally to boot some Linux live cd and fire up gparted and leave it overnight

[dusk drift]

delete it all

[limber knot]

the middle one ya

[golden gust]

That oem partition is in your way lol

[limber knot]

OEM partition can be deleted, generally contains drivers for your computer

lol me https://i.imgur.com/vqescOa.png

usually I check if there is and save them else where

the reason I save them is in the event I reformat I do not have to go searching for them again

[golden gust]

Generally better to download the newer versions anyways

Competent oems make that ez

[limber knot]

if ur PC is new enough it'll be in windows update

new/competent

[golden gust]

Then again, competent oems exist far and few

[limber knot]

Dell does an ok job

mine isn't new, but the thing I had a hard time finding is the thermal driver lol

they detected my touch screen and stylus drivers and etc.

well it didn't detect the thermal driver I needed.

thermal driver 4 wat

not entirely sure, but my lenovo has it.

[golden gust]

I'd better actually go lie down, hab fun

[limber knot]

took me a while when I reformatted and nuked everything to resolve that issue in the device manager

I do have a story where I tried to partition with some random tool off of the internet cuz back in windows XP days you can't shrink a partition with it's built indisk management

yeah that was annoying

you should probably disable windows update sharing too if you are on windows 10

don't even recall what I did, there were like 2 options on it (and it was a bootable CD software thing) and I did the second option after the first failed with "sanity check failed" but whatever I did I made it unbootable and ended up just installing Windows Vista on it until I found the XP discs and dual booted.

windows update sharing defaults to local only iirc

you probably messed with the MBR

unintentionally

[toxic ember]

Does anyone here know a good plugin for death coordinates

Im trying to use this one, but it seems to be conflicting with something

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/deathcoordinates-1-8-1-14.43318/

[void void]

and what exactly is it conflicting with

[toxic ember]

No clue, I am taking out plugins one by one to find out on my test server

[void void]

what are the symptoms leading you to believe it's conflicting with something

[toxic ember]

well it works fine on the test server

but not on the main one that has the plugins

[void void]

so what is it doing, is it not performing or is it not performing correctly

[toxic ember]

its just not sending the coordinates message at all

I am looking and its not creating the config folder either, even though it gives me access to the commands in game

[void void]

Share your server startup log.

.paste

?paste

[stuck badger]

So would this be a good vps for bungee for waterfall

[void void]

why, bot

[stuck badger]

It's ovh literally the best ddos protection

[void void]

it's one of the best for the price you pay

which is nothing

besides your server cost lol

[stuck badger]

32 a year is amazing

[void void]

for a 2gb vps yeah ok

[stuck badger]

That's plenty for waterfall

[toxic ember]

https://pastebin.com/jzkTuJkq

[void void]

keep in mind you dont get to assign 2gb to waterfall with a 2gb vps

you get to assign like 1, or 768mb

[toxic ember]

it says that it is enabled

[void void]

somewhere around there

[stuck badger]

Actually waterfall and a hub right?

[toxic ember]

[21:31:30] [Server thread/INFO]: [DeathCoordinates] Enabling DeathCoordinates v1.6.1

[void void]

on a 2gb server? good fuckin luck

[stuck badger]

For one hub server?

[void void]

a hub server + waterfall on 2 gigs of ram

not happening

lmao

[stuck badger]

Like one person on the hub?

You can run a whole mc server on 1 gb ram

[void void]

ok, you might be able to get it to start, dont expect it to be playable

[stuck badger]

Server.pro has a free 1 gb it runs fine

[void void]

@toxic ember Weird. Well, he hasn't open sourced the plugin so I can't look at it.

I have no suggestions sorry

[toxic ember]

No problem

[stuck badger]

Oof np

[toxic ember]

its just so weird

[void void]

@stuck badger server.pro is a virtualized provided, giving you the whole 1 gig

when you buy a vps the OS needs some of that ram

you dont get a full 2gb on that 2gb vps

you get around 1.5 total

so good luck

[stuck badger]

Oh

How much does waterfall use? Or need

[void void]

you can run waterfall on 512mb

but that leaves 1 or so, and i wouldn't at that point give a full 1 to mc as that will exhaust your mem and if OS wants some more, it will kill stuff for it

and you will start getting random crashes

have fun! :D

[stuck badger]

Not the actual server just hub but thanks I'll tesr

[void void]

if it's pregenerated and new chunks are disabled, and most MC functions are turned off such as mobs and item drops etc it may be fine such that it's just an island serving as a conduit between different servers

but if it's any more than that, you're really pushing it

[stuck badger]

Yea just a sky box and island

[void void]

make it so that the rest of the world is void

you dont want other terrain

especially if it won't be used

[stuck badger]

Yep

Waterfall works on localhost right?

[void void]

?

yes

[stuck badger]

Ok thanks

[void void]

its not very useful like that but...ye sure

why not

[stuck badger]

Just Makin sure

Well waterfall and hub on vps

I have a server rack at home with 12gb ram

[void void]

ok, well waterfall should typically be exposed to the internet and be the only thing able to connect to the actual mc servers

that's the idea

[stuck badger]

Oh ye ur right

Srv record?

No u still get ip

[void void]

wat

[stuck badger]

Nvm I'll host both servers on my rack

[limber knot]

o.O

[void void]

bind waterfall to 0.0.0.0, bind your hub to 127.0.0.1 and then have waterfall connect to 127.0.0.1:whateverport

as for your homehosted rack, use iptables to make sure incoming requests to your mc ports are coming from your vps

done

im assuming your rack is running linux

i hope it is

[stuck badger]

Yea

I was running Windows server 2012 until my license expired

That was bad

Nv again

[limber knot]

license expired?

wut dat, eval license?

you know u can rearm that license

until you get a real one (e.g. if you go to college you can get one for free)

[stuck badger]

I don't care I sold the license

[limber knot]

wut

[void void]

there is lots of questionable stuff being said atm, i must tune out

[stuck badger]

Ok

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/music-headphones-groovy-tituss-unbreakable-kimmy-schmidt-gif-5791373

me while you guys talk

[limber knot]

lol

[stuck badger]

So iptables only allows connections from one ip right?

[limber knot]

is there a plugin that can turn on/off a VM when a person joins/leaves

bungee/waterfall plogen dat is

[stuck badger]

Plogen

[limber knot]

i.e. what realms does

[stuck badger]

That's rly slow startup

Realms is bad

Just buy bedrock hosting

^

https://media.tenor.com/images/e8f711c13ca907bdc8b6ca96c54e81ac/tenor.gif

I'm gonna agree that bedrock has some good aspects but fucking micro transactions

[limber knot]

cuz I got limited azure credits and the 1GB RAM aint enuf for 1.14

and i aint gonna run a vm 24/7 wen i got no other things to run rn

with a larger size

[stuck badger]

What do u pay for it?

[limber knot]

github student pack is grate thing

[stuck badger]

Oh I have that

How long do u have the 1gb?

[limber knot]

1 year

it's part of the free services portion of it

[stuck badger]

Do u get ssh?

[void void]

azure has a vm api

with power on off

mek plogen

[limber knot]

ya mek me plogen

[void void]

2 lazyu

[limber knot]

pls

[stuck badger]

Can u run waterfall on it?

[limber knot]

it's a vm

u can do wutever

[stuck badger]

Oh ssh?

That's great

Do u need a cc

[limber knot]

it's not aws so no

[void void]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/rest/api/compute/virtualmachines/start
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/rest/api/compute/virtualmachines/poweroff

may else enjoy: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/rest/api/compute/virtualmachines/capture
to copy vm entirely and save it for next power on bc poweroff just turns it off, doesn't release your billing contract

ezpz

[limber knot]

power off doesn't do a stop and deallocate?

[void void]

no it just turns off

[limber knot]

o

there's a deallocate

[void void]

gotta capture and delete it

[limber knot]

ugh Im a newb at rest/post stuff

[void void]

well, dont have to capture if you want the world to be ephemeral i guess

[stuck badger]

I'll just buy Ovh

[limber knot]

took me forever to figure out how to access translate api\

capture is to save state like hibernate/standby

[void void]

write the plogen and get the events n shet rdy w/ comments where the rest stuff has to go and ill help u tmrw

[limber knot]

deallocate will keep world

also never wrote bungee plogen

so ya

[void void]

its very similar to spigot

just extend Plugin instead of JavaPlugin and go from der

has onEnable, onDisable etc

very close api

[limber knot]

were waterfall maven api

[stuck badger]

What is a plogen

[limber knot]

the dependency info i stick in maven pom

.maven

[void void]

io.github.waterfallmc:waterfall-api:1.14-SNAPSHOT @ https://papermc.io/repo/repository/maven-snapshots

@stuck badger its how we intellectuals say plugin

[limber knot]

ok @void void https://github.com/RoboMWM/AzureSaver/

[void void]

good job bby

im gonna slep soon but remind me l8r

[limber knot]

no dont deallocate

u must uphold ur uptime

[clear nacelle]

hey im new, is this a minecraft server?

[void void]

no

it's minecraft server software

[limber knot]

oo https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/virtual-machines/windows/java

[void void]

we write the code that lets you play on servers

noice robo

dat might work

try et

although i dont see a way to save your disk so you can recreate it later after deallocation

bc if you just str8 up deallocate you lose your world

unless thats not important

[limber knot]

err

[void void]

unless im not understanding smth which is possibur

possibru

[limber knot]

deallocate is like clicking stop in dashboard afaik, it removes IP if dynamic, and temp disk goes away

[void void]

idk how azure works tbh

[limber knot]

OS disk and any other data disks remain

[void void]

oh in dat case

[limber knot]

unless u delete ofc

[void void]

so disk is part of resource group or smth bc i see that, res group remains after actual vm dealloc

if thats the case nice

will work gud

[limber knot]

ya

[dusk drift]

guys

whats the ip

i wanna playt minecraft

[void void]

go.fuckyourself.club:25565

[limber knot]

127.0.0.1

it's been eons since I ran a proxy how i do dis

ugh how do I get help in console

[worn ember]

what the fuck

[stuck badger]

How TF is this deal so good

[void void]

because its a small ass server?

[stuck badger]

Most 2gb vps's are alot more

[void void]

yeah well ovh charges fairly

you get what you pay for at ovh

and you're not paying much so dont expect much

LOL

[stuck badger]

It's the best ddos protection you can buy right

[void void]

no its not, but you dont wanna know how much actual dedicated ddos protection is

[stuck badger]

Yeah il

Under 3k

[void void]

no, close to 3k per month actually

often more

[stuck badger]

Oof

It's like 1tb protection right?

The ovh

[void void]

idk it's shared protection for all ovh clients

all incoming traffic goes through it before being routed to actual servers

[stuck badger]

Better that being hit off my that free ddos shit

[void void]

their page says 17 Tbps, but that's not 17 Tbps for you

That's for all of OVH

And it doesn't stop a DDoS attack before it hits you either

Your server will go down for like a minute or so

Then the protection kicks in

[stuck badger]

Ok so at least my actual server will be fine

[void void]

That is to say it's responsive protection, not preemptive

Your server will be fine, the ability to connect to it will be interrupted

Same as a normal ddos? lol

your server would be fine, your network would be flooded

[stuck badger]

Through the proxy?

[void void]

o.O

[worn ember]

my vps is like $3.50 for about the same specs, its pretty shit but its good for small things

[void void]

yeah, through the ovh server

however, if you aren't careful and expose your home then you can easily be hit off, ovh won't help you there

[stuck badger]

So the ddos can get through the waterfall proxy?

[void void]

no

[stuck badger]

Ok

So no way to ddos me through the vps

[void void]

but if your ovh vps is ddosed, it will be interrupted for a short time and no connections can occur until the protection kicks in

[worn ember]

cant you just do tracert?

[void void]

no, there's no way to ddos your home just by ddosing your vps

[worn ember]

to get the endpoints

[stuck badger]

Ok

[void void]

tracert wont lead to his home, only connection to his home is via waterfall

tracert doesn't do that lol

[stuck badger]

Yea

[worn ember]

i'm just spitballing here ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

dark, shut up and suck my dick

[stuck badger]

There is no was to get the actual server ip right

[worn ember]

you wish i would

[stuck badger]

Like externally

[void void]

@stuck badger the only way to get your IP would be someone making you slip up

they can't get it from waterfall

[stuck badger]

Ok

So wdym by expose

Leak it

[void void]

wat

[stuck badger]

Nvm

[void void]

expose as in dont expose your home IP, have some common sense and don't let someone who would be interested in attacking you ever find out what it is

which, i hope would be normal

just, like

don't be stupid

[stuck badger]

Yeah

[worn ember]

ddos my ip plz: ::1

[stuck badger]

Hmm

What an offer

[void void]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-contemplating-pondering-chin-gif-4540781

[worn ember]

my host claims to have "automatic ddos protection" that would kick in if you're gettind ddosed

[stuck badger]

I know some people with some rly scary ddos stuff

[worn ember]

kinda wanna see how that'd work

[void void]

thats what ovh does dark

[worn ember]

i dont use ovh

its some cheap ass german company

[void void]

all traffic passes through the protection server (they call VAC) and then gets sent to the actual server after packet inspection

if the packets look like nasty fuks

then nullrouted

[worn ember]

VAC lul

[stuck badger]

This dude hit me off instantly with 200gbps ddos thing

[worn ember]

you can rent ddos boxes

[void void]

@stuck badger home networks are not made for any type of attack

likely used a booter

which you can buy

[stuck badger]

I asked him to do to my home network

[worn ember]

well thats just retarded xD

[void void]

yeah, that's stupid. homes are not made to receive any type of attack whatsoever

they just drop

[stuck badger]

I heard fans fucking spin in my router

[void void]

yes

that's what happens when something is overloaded

[worn ember]

if ur unlucky it'll catch fire too xD

[void void]

computers do it too

[worn ember]

knowing router cooling

[stuck badger]

U can boot home connections with a home pc

[worn ember]

i can pretty much overheat my router by just using it constantly

[void void]

when i was a lot younger, i had some dude who had a booter knocking me off all the time

[stuck badger]

I have a ip on demand

Or whatever

[void void]

ended up going to isp and asking for a new modem (their prepackaged modems) because that's the only way to switch the wan IP with them