i mean, you can just use things like groovy, javascript, etc if you just need a quick scripting language for minecraft
#general
heady spear
But what if you don't know any language that runs natively in the JVM?
Then it doesn't matter that there are other languages. Skript is easy to understand, and therefore easy to use.
woven otter
Lua worldedit? 
unreal quarry
I think if someone knows enough about logic to write a skript they know enough about logic to pick up any language they want with ease
pulsar wigeon
o boi, are we bringing up cuberite again
potent warren
Server owners don't want to pay any money just to have someone to have a plugin that gives you a diamond if you right click on a sign with a specific text
pulsar wigeon
just go look at their codestyle duck
woven otter
who decided to use fucking lua
unreal quarry
Syntax/language isn't the roadblock for people, it's the logical thinking.
fleet osprey
I've seen people selling Skript plugins @potent warren
potent warren
and?
pulsar wigeon
lua is easily embeddable in C tbh
fleet osprey
It's no different
wide chasm
Cat, you're wrong
heady spear
Skript is a hell of a lot easier to pick up than a general purpose programming language. Especially considering Skript is documented for Minecraft specifically, and has Minecraft specific libraries.
pulsar wigeon
WoW uses lua too for addons
potent warren
What's your point now, AoElite?
fleet osprey
server owners will still pay
potent warren
most won't if they can do it themselves
woven otter
wiz are you talking about codestyle of cuberite itself
limber knotBOT
that is pretty much one of the main purposes of DSL
pulsar wigeon
nah, the lua style
heady spear
Cuberite is great. Wiz is just jealous
pulsar wigeon
5 newlines for every block
limber knotBOT
ease of use over GPL especially if its for that one application
heady spear
They use the same codestyle for their C++ tho
woven otter
why is lua easily embeddable in C
potent warren
weird... https://i.imgur.com/JCRSeze.gifv
That can be done with Skript + an addon for packets
potent warren
It can be done with Skript
pulsar wigeon
did someone say it couldn't?
potent warren
I'm refuting the argument that Skript is limited
woven otter
I bet it can even be done while performing MITM
golden gust
Skript is limited by the addons available
potent warren
Don't imagine for too long.
fleet osprey
I thought we already agreed that Skript is limited to minecraft
potent warren
There are addons for almost everything
golden gust
I mean, there is a skript addon for java support because skript is limited
pulsar wigeon
o boi don't get me started on that
limber knotBOT
lol
golden gust
At that point, you might as well go actually learn java so you can interface with stuff natively
pulsar wigeon
their java "compiler" is retarded
potent warren
compiler?
pulsar wigeon
it completely ignores types, parameters, etc
unreal quarry
The reason I don't like skript is it robs potential developers from advancing to learn Java. Like I said, if someone can write a skript then they have the logical thinking skills down already. /shrug
potent warren
When does Skript get compiled?
pulsar wigeon
i'm pretty sure it's just hacked together reflection
potent warren
I started with Skript..
potent warren
it's also open-source
heady spear
wat hashsets in java are just wrapped hashmaps
heady spear
everything is a lie
woven otter
wait what
potent warren
And this all started because I asked the wise people in here if they knew any resources for control and data flow analysis.... for linting Skript
heady spear
golden gust
#CityisNew
woven otter
wow wtf
pulsar wigeon
what's going on now
potent warren
wiz, if you want to judge, https://github.com/btk5h/skript-mirror
unreal quarry
Should have asked in the skript discord... Lol
pulsar wigeon
oh, city
whole delta
Does anyone know any good places to advertise/grow a Minecraft server? Just if anyone has ideas etc.
potent warren
Why the fuck would I ask that on the Skript discord?!
Should have asked in the skript discord... Lol
pulsar wigeon
hm, not worth unblocking i guess
heady spear
why even bother blocking people if you're gonna spend time talking about them anyway
unreal quarry
Because it's a skript friendly place.. unlike everywhere else ;)
pulsar wigeon
a set is just a map of key -> "present"
potent warren
Well, you might hate the language.. But I'm trying to do something SERIOUS for it.. so at least ignore that part and maybe help SOMEHOW
woven otter
what is that supposed to mean
pulsar wigeon
what the fuck
heady spear
A set can either contain or not contain a number
whole delta
Calm nick
heady spear
Or well, element
woven otter
clam nick
golden gust
Veeeery few people care about the inner works on skript or anything like that
unreal quarry
I thought we were helping. It's an intervention. We're saving you from skript
woven otter
Skript. Not even once
woven otter
city ur smart
heady spear
I know
golden gust
is memegenerator.net down for anybody else
woven otter
looks like it is
potent warren
I'm not forcing anyone to help me. I'm just asking people to be a bit more helpful even if I'm linting Skript
limber knotBOT
its down for me
golden gust
pulsar wigeon
https://i.imgur.com/wRqFd9W.png sounds like you're telling people to help you
heady spear
why help nick tho he'll just abandon the project in a month claiming that it's useless
pulsar wigeon
like, people have no obligation to you to be the least bit helpful
potent warren
I'd like it a lot if other people actually helped me instead of looking at the word Skript and REEEEEEEEEEEEEEing from it just being there
pulsar wigeon
you don't automatically deserve to be helped or something
potent warren
Oh well.
golden gust
I mean, outside of REEEE; you're not really going to get much else of a response
pulsar wigeon
no one here gives a shit about skript
fleet osprey
:)
golden gust
Unless somebody has cared enough to deal with linting skript specifically ^
pulsar wigeon
go ask in a skript-focused discord
unreal quarry
fleet osprey
nice
void void
lmao what rage war i started
golden gust
Basically, it's more than likely going to be something you gotta pull off yourself unless somebody has already done it and you can find the material there
potent warren
you're not really going to get much else of a response
Well, I figured I would because I thought people here were smart and resourceful..
void void
i just added kekw emote
heady spear
who here is smart and resourceful?
pulsar wigeon
clj is the best scripting language for MC right mikroskeem?
fleet osprey
I gave points but you just refused them @heady spear
void void
yes wiz
heady spear
You literally repeated the same sentence like 45 times
golden gust
I mean, people here are knowledgable in a fair range of topics; how to handle a specific niche language in a specific way is not generally in the bounds of that
pulsar wigeon
the thoughts of parentheses makes me typo hard
void void
(on PlayerJoinEvent (fn [e] (if (= "mikroskeem" (-> e .getPlayer .getName) (.setOp (-> e .getPlayer) true))
:)
heady spear
I know how to take care of pps
potent warren
Lovely.
pulsar wigeon
OMG FORCEOP BAN
fleet osprey
it took you 45 times to understand? damn, Weeb
heady spear
I still don't understand why you're this dense
I'll research you a bit more and make a pretty graph
potent warren
All I literally asked was the following:
How hard is it to do control flow analysis? 🤔 [...] how hard is it to do that from scratch ;-;
And all I got this as a reply from someone who I looked up to.. https://i.imgur.com/sukZ356.png
heady spear
your first mistake was looking up to mikro
fleet osprey
I thought you said I wasn't smart enough weeb, why would you send me graphs
potent warren
@heady spear I guess so.
pulsar wigeon
imagine looking up to mikroskeem
potent warren
I tend to have high expectations of developers in here. Maybe I'm daamn wrong.
void void
no i'm 6'
heady spear
I am not sending you graphs. I am making graphs. You're not worth the bandwidth.
woven otter
imagine using imperial units
void void
.wa 6' to cm
pulsar wigeon
just because you write it on your dating profile doesn't mean girls will stay with you once they how short you are irl mikro
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Result: 182.9 cm (centimeters) - https://is.gd/NXD1X8
pulsar wigeon
TITLE_OG
void void
ok wiz let's date
heady spear
oh I'm 183
golden gust
potent warren
TITLE_OG YEET
heady spear
I'm taller than u omg ur too short
pulsar wigeon
are you a cute asian girl mikro?
heady spear
I can't date mikro anymore 😦
pulsar wigeon
that's gonna be a pass for me then sorry
heady spear
@woven otter how tall r u
woven otter
~186cm
pulsar wigeon
coffee is gross
void void
ur gross
heady spear
omg fuck me daddy
void void
tf duck
limber knotBOT
.wa 5' 5'' to cm
woven otter
that's gay
limber knotBOT
(frostalf) Result: 165.1 cm (centimeters) - https://is.gd/DYs40Q
heady spear
MTM we're dating now
void void
did you get that growth from potatoes you eat there
fleet osprey
I mean weeb is a weeb
woven otter
yes. potat very gud
woven otter
city only if I can spend your money without any questions asked
heady spear
sure, I have $5
woven otter
oh what a scam
void void
heady spear
I got my hospital bill sry babe all casherinos went bye
void void
@woven otter
pulsar wigeon
better ask him to pawn that $2000 camera equipment first
void void
is that true lol
potent warren
Okay, let me try again sigh
||Is anyone here able to point me to good resources on control and data flow analysis?||
pulsar wigeon
.g control and data flow analysis
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data-flow_analysis -- Data-flow analysis - Wikipedia: "information about the possible set of values calculated at various points in a computer program. A program's control flow graph (CFG) is used to..."
void void
@potent warren what do you want to do exactly?
heady spear
o right but I do have roughly $5000 worth of camera gear under my bed
void void
analyze skript?
potent warren
No.
I first want to actually understand the concept of it.
Then apply it to a WIP DSL
woven otter
@void void are you calling me a lithuanian REEEEEEE
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PID_controller -- PID controller - Wikipedia: "A proportional–integral–derivative controller is a control loop mechanism employing feedback that is widely used in industrial control systems and a..."
unfortunately it probably already devalued @heady spear
heady spear
The body has probably lost like 50% of its value
pulsar wigeon
just convert the interpreted skript into compiled java and use java data and control flow bs Kappa
woven otter
city I heard money
heady spear
the lenses would still sell for ~75% of what I spent
woven otter
there we go
void void
latvia is even better
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.che.utexas.edu/course/che360/ -- UT CHE 360 Undergraduate Process Controls: "process dynamics; process models; process control; control system analysis and ... Ability to empirically determine process dynamics for step..."
pulsar wigeon
.g latvia potato jokes
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.sadanduseless.com/latvian-jokes/ -- Latvian Jokes: "Latvian jokes are short examinations aimed at poking fun at the everyday life of ... Latvian jokes usually work in a reference to a potato and the..."
void void
praise latvia for cheap booze!
potent warren
I'm not even talking about Skript anymore.. I want to understand the concept first so I can apply it later (and YES; i've already googled it but didn't yield to any productive results)
limber knotBOT
better go start learning @potent warren
going to take a while to teach that to someone
heady spear
Hm, I just checked, so the lens I spent $1500 on sells for $1300 in our ebay equivalent
limber knotBOT
better yet go take some CS courses lol
heady spear
I'm rich yay
potent warren
the question is: where do I learn it That's what I'm trying to ask, BUT PEOPLE HERE KEEP the secret from me.
limber knotBOT
not that bad on the devaluation @heady spear
pulsar wigeon
"keep the secret"
limber knotBOT
you learn it in computer science courses
limber knotBOT
lol
potent warren
Well, I'm not in a cs course and don't tend to get into one any time soon.
heady spear
imagine going to college to learn stuff lmao
pulsar wigeon
bruh unless someone here has specifically taken some course or read some in depth resource of exactly what you want, we don't know any more than you on it
except, apparently, how to use google
limber knotBOT
for what you are wanting to learn, it would probably be necessary otherwise good luck because you are pretty much on your own to teach yourself it
pulsar wigeon
no one is keeping secrets from you, we just don't have any resources on hand for what you want
limber knotBOT
lmao
pulsar wigeon
hence pointing you to google and such
woven otter
@void void lel latvians get cheap coffee in Estonia and estonians get cheap booze in Latvia
interesting
pulsar wigeon
the only secret barty is keeping is how to
heady spear
Swedes get cheap stuff in all of the baltics
heady spear
we also use y'all as a buffer zone between us an Moscow
void void
pfft and baltics get cheap snus from sweden
woven otter
it's not just coffee though
void void
... and then resell it at 3 times larger price
heady spear
We go to Riga to get wasted for no casherinos and then we take the ferry back home
That's the entire purpose of Latvia
it's essentially a cheap theme park
void void
ur a cheap theme park
limber knotBOT
lol
heady spear
Well, that, and protecting Gotland from Putin.
potent warren
limber knotBOT
this channel would be great for a comedy show XD
golden gust
I mean, I've basically been through a CS course and we didn't touch data-flow analysis or stuff like that
void void
tallinn is shit ye, agreed
fleet osprey
IntelliJ has tools and plugins to do data-flow analysis anyways
void void
tartu is way better
limber knotBOT
well CS extends more then just 4 years. But there are various CS courses though
heady spear
I wanna go to Калинингра́д
void void
.g kalingrad
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad -- Kaliningrad - Wikipedia: "Kaliningrad is the largest city and the administrative centre of Kaliningrad Oblast, a Russian exclave on the Baltic Sea. At the 2010 Census,..."
heady spear
But it's kinda super had for me to get Visas to Russia
void void
wtf is it with me unable to type today...
golden gust
My major comment is that it's not really a common thing that you're taught, it's more of a specialist area, which for most degrees is probably waaaay too large of an area and more complex than most degrees will care to go into
limber knotBOT
Ah that is true
void void
im sitting in class, still high as fuck from last night
limber knotBOT
sounds like its going to be a fun day
heady spear
omg simple does drugs
golden gust
god, I wish I was high
heady spear
shame! shame! shame!
crystal otter
are we still arguing about skript
heady spear
wtf this dumb book is basically a wrapper for the art of programming
every second sentence is basically "Knuth wrote that..." "Knuth said that..." "Knuth states that..."
golden gust
Knuth states dat ur dum
heady spear
Knuth would like me, I bet
limber knotBOT
I wish I was high too, but I need to mount a 70inch tv on the wall >>
which I have to modify the wall to be able to handle that XD
heady spear
I use his dumb arrow assignment notation
heady spear
don't disrespect donald knuth like that
It can be a lot of things. Some people take Software Engineering, where they hyperfocus on... software engineering. There's also computer science and computer engineering. Within that, you can specialise in a lot of different things
My uni allows you to specialise in networking, security and software engineering (if you take computer engineering)
This is for undergrad. When you get to masters you can specialise even further.
the structure differs a lot between different schools, as well.
My programme focuses quite heavily on mathematics and theoretical computer science, and treats CS as a very formal science.
oh yeah, there are also those weird humanities-cs crossovers
void void
@void void why did you dm me to fuck off?
heady spear
lmao^
void void
and then immediately block me after that?
heady spear
Computer engineering here is basically a general engineering degree. the first year you spend together with the other engineering students
then you do a lot of electrical engineering and some random CS classes
The specialisations here are kinda useless and for your masters it doesn't matter what you did for your undergrad
but I'm probably going to continue doing theoretical computer science after this shit. Fuck software design
by the time you graduate from uni all of your SE skills will be outdated anyway
Also people that go to uni for software engineering specifically. Y tho? You won't be able to use anything irl
I kinda wish I would have gone for maths instead, with some cs electives. But oh well
void void
void void
void void
whats the best anti xray 1.14.4?
if paper's anti-xray feature set is sufficient, then paper's
i have to engine 2
and everyone still uses xray
then either it's not enabled or they know the map seed
anti-xray:
enabled: true
engine-mode: 2
chunk-edge-mode: 2
max-chunk-section-index: 3
update-radius: 2
hidden-blocks:
is there anything else i need to enable?
forgot about the ping
try yourself tbh, you should know how your server actually behaves in the end
install xray resourcepack or try out full blown xray modification
and see if it works
i was using engine 1
now i remeber i switched to engine 1
cuz it was lagging the server
engine 1 is not as effective as engine 2
against xrayers atleast
lowers the tps
maybe now
i used it when they put it for 1.14.4
placid thicket
finally my whole map is rendered. now i just need to transfer it all over the smart way 😅
i can also see how populated my spawn is which is nice
placid thicket
yeah that was an early version of 1.13 world border fucking things up
the chunks are actually there, just not marked complete, the renderer only accounts for complete chunks
i could always just link the map, just don't want to do so here so as to avoid network spam
tall oyster
steel maple
void void
hey guys
do you wanna see the latest and greatest web framework
it's written in fucking batch @wide chasm
pulsar wigeon
wut
wide chasm
I wanna see it
void void
pulsar wigeon
that's not batch?
void void
index controller 😱 https://github.com/secretGeek/dod/blob/master/Controllers/Home/Index.bat
oh but it is wiz
pulsar wigeon
oh jesus
i mean eh
asp.net is still doing all the web server, routing, etc
he's just using batch for templating really
safe tide
Any of yall ever heard of beerspigot and if so what yall think about it had a plugin user come that is using beerspigot
limber knotBOT
spigot.paper,beer too many off cuts
stone silo
bitchcraft*
finite tulip
tall stratus
what's a good plugin
proud lance
whats a plugin
proud lance
Кот
native wolf
green bronze
prime pawn
So, regarding 1.14.4, chunk generation is the cause of the huge TPS drop, not chunk loading its self correct?
pulsar wigeon
depends on whether things are causing sync chunk loads
prime pawn
Well, time to pregenerate every chunk then
worn ember
welcome to the joys of 1.14
proud lance
cat is cute, pass it on
cosmic raft
what about me
proud lance
ur a pretty boy
woven otter
Cute
true canyon
I AM JUDGING YOU SO GODDAMN HARD RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
pulsar wigeon
no, javadocs weren't invented til 2018
before that we just scratched paintings on the cave walls
upper flicker
They exist they just aren’t published on the site
They are probably in the maven repo, definitely able to be built from source
placid thicket
just curious, is paper 1.14.4 'done' or are there more long winded updates coming. i understand there will be bug fixes, its just really slowed down since early 14 builds a day days
upper flicker
Pretty much how it always goes
There’s plenty left to be done but people get busy, people burn out, etc etc
Especially this time of year
placid thicket
o i c, winter depression exams and all, but everything major is done for the moment?
upper flicker
Idk what “everything major” is supposed to describe
There’s always 50 “major” things to do
You could easily find 50 “major” things to do in some beta version
placid thicket
i mean that there isn't anything horrifically broken anymore. lots of bugs and issues but no show-stoppers
upper flicker
Not that we’re aware of
It’s all relative though
If you want to put 300 players on.a single instance, that would be a showstopper for you
placid thicket
while i have your attention, do you know of a command that makes both paper and the client take longer to disconnect from timeouts? our host is giving issues to some distant users
cosmic raft
korobi died, let me restart it
placid thicket
its something i have done before with forge, but making people install forge to pass a command to a server is counterproductive
placid thicket
thanks, that does actually help
upper flicker
If that didn’t link right in your browser, the last comment from electronic is the one you want
placid thicket
so to be absolutly sure i am passing --paper.playerconnection.keepalive 60 or some other number to the server?
vestal jasper
-Dpaper.playerconnection.keepalive=60 iirc
upper flicker
java …. -Dpaper.playerconnection.keepalive=XX -jar …
placid thicket
cool, thanks
merry talon
delete it
shell vine
no u
placid thicket
69.69gb left on file transfer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
placid thicket
solution, use windows 3.1, only uses 15mb fully set up!
dusk drift
its red
soft ibex
quasi valley
wild lagoon
woven otter
ban
warped shuttle
Can someone mentor me in the process of creating plugins? I’m making a server and need custom plugins so I want to learn how to make them and I want someone to teach me.(either message me or mention me.)
void void
for free?
warped shuttle
Yes I really just mean some tips maybe direct me to some YouTube videos.
void void
good luck with that, no one is going to mentor you for free
that sounds like pure hell
warped shuttle
I’m working on that.
vestal jasper
Javadoc knowledge is good too so you can navigate around easier
warped shuttle
Ok thx
I think I will finish learning java then do a paid online class.
There’s classes for everything.
woven otter
next tier nerd
heady spear
need that 4.0
woven otter
4.what
heady spear
gpa
woven otter
sounds lame
void void
im high as fuck fellas
am i correct in this reply 
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/question-for-java-beginners.404632/#post-3608118
merry talon
man I do not understand the mentality of do not touch the bukkit api until you've mastered java
you gotta do what works for you, there's no real answer
it's not a commodity thing like learning to ride a bike
vestal jasper
Because 9/10 times you get retards spending 20 minutes trying to call a simple method and pass in a boolean
Idc if you master java first or not
upper flicker
Like everything else there’s really a middle ground
vestal jasper
At least a basic understanding is nice
upper flicker
If you’re the right type of person you’d probably pick up java just fine using bukkit
You’d probably pick up some bad habits, but such is life
That said, there are very clearly many many people who cannot learn that way
And that’s fine
vestal jasper
I dont expect him to spend a month or a year on java before bukkit but i expect him to know what a method is
upper flicker
They should play with java a bit elsewhere and pick up the basics
merry talon
people getting stuck on things like that happens regardless of whether they're using bukkit or not when they're getting started
upper flicker
Don’t really need to master much
vestal jasper
I'm also one of the people who failed to actually learn by starting with modding before java. I spent a lot of time trying to make mods before I started understanding java and even then it took an entire year to learn what I wouldve in weeks otherwise. I'm fucking retarded though so Idk it might work for him.
merry talon
I would agree people should look over some books or manuals before asking those basic questions though, and it would be less misleading to just suggest that
woven otter
I started learning Java with bukkit because honestly that was much more fun than watching videos and repeating the code after the guy in the video. After that I just started to read some books and learnt a lot more
upper flicker
Tbh most people capable of effectively using google could probably get through 90% of questions just by searching stackoverflow results
That’s how a lot of people learn
vestal jasper
I also self taught myself 95% of what I know and when you're going off of old bukkit plugin tutorials from 2012, progress tends to be slow. 
merry talon
that's fine too
alpine basin
woven otter
I started with tutorials and just ended up dropping the tutorials and just working on my own stuff and using tutorials or google when getting stuck
vestal jasper
And i still spend an alarming amount of time googling things. But im also still familiarizing myself with sponge.
merry talon
I started with bukkit straight away, and I'm confident that if I hadn't I would have given up
upper flicker
I know people with 20 years of experience that still google simple shit they’ve forgotten.
vestal jasper
And I'm too stubborn to ask other devs for help 99% of the time. Also makes me anxious.
upper flicker
There’s no real mastery, everyone just needs to keep expanding themselves
ancient bolt
I learned Java through bukkit, chew on that
But that was a really long time ago
¯_(ツ)_/¯
prime pawn
So did I, but looking back, I think I would've actually learnt faster and would have developed better habits with principals had I learnt Java first.
ancient bolt
I learned good habits just fine
but bukkit also wasn't even close to my only source of learning
prime pawn
My second source of learning was a big, fat Java 7 book 😂
potent warren
what made me solidify what I was learning in Java was Intellij. The code inspections and their automatic fixes helped me a lot to learn those "good habits"
prime pawn
I'd have to agree with you there
potent warren
It helps a lot
I've used Eclipse a lot in the past, I have no shame in that. But I was lost inside it when I was learning. IJ actually made me learn better thanks to it always looking for me.
limber knotBOT
you should be ashamed for using eclipse
I know I am
my personal brand is forever tarnished with its stench
woven otter
most of us started with eclipse though, right?
limber knotBOT
I mean being this close to Godhood is a sin
but it's just my natural state
don't be hatin'
I swear amazon makes the think I'm actually a bot
10% of the time their capcha is just unreadable by humans
make that 30% of the tiem
woven otter
I don't duel noobs
limber knotBOT
I can see you shaking like a leaf
woven otter
woven otter
noobs are waste of time
limber knotBOT
wow
quasi valley
u are
woven otter
yes magma is
limber knotBOT
yeah but I'm still willing to duel you duck
quasi valley
well he obv is, that's out of question
limber knotBOT
you should feel honored
woven otter
or disgusted
limber knotBOT
bunch of cowards is what you all are
quasi valley
you should just feel empty inside
limber knotBOT
I do feel a bit empty inside rn
but that's mostly because I just took a monster shit
woven otter
because you're a noob
limber knotBOT
inaccurate
prime pawn
You're a boob
woven otter
yes true. you're something even worse than noob
limber knotBOT
idk man I'll take boobs over noobs any day
woven otter
that's what a noob would say
quasi valley
magma is just self conscious about his small man boobs
limber knotBOT
one does not simply denigrate the pectoral muscles of a golden god
well I'm off to the barber's to go look fresh
not that you'd know anything about that
quasi valley
yeah go and let someone cut your fake beard
drowsy wharf
woven otter
j8 old, 1.8.8 old. Coincidence?
woven otter
same tbh
worn ember
Oracle big rart
woven otter
hosting companies and mojang big rart
worn ember
everyone rart
olive garden
worn ember
i wish
limber knotBOT
your mom is released twice a year
https://bugs.mojang.com/plugins/servlet/mobile#issue/MC-12211 finally resolved.
Voids my PR that I never properly re-made so there is that
woven otter
created 6 years ago 🤔
void void
Anyone knows how to show OP's money in /baltop (vault) ?
pulsar wigeon
baltop isn't a vault command afaik
so you should probably figure out what it's from and ask that plugin
void void
Yeah just checked and found it's realted to essentialsx
worn ember
op's fuck permissions so they essentially get all possible permisions including the ones exempting them from the baltop
¯_(ツ)_/¯
wintry surge
limber knotBOT
what APIs do people use for command abstraction across different platforms like spigot/bungee/nukkit/etc?
i've been playing with aikar's ACF and its fairly flawless as of yet
worn ember
ACF i suppose
limber knotBOT
love how simple it is honestly
limber knotBOT
I also found chimera, which some like and some dont like
also lucko's commodore which uses brigadier
but i saw the acf ease of implementation and had to try it
thankfully the commands im running have nothing to do with ingame event stuff
Chimera looks pretty cool, requires Java 11 though which is why many people probably wont use it
yea
"Local type inference, i.e. var [...] is also used extensively in the project." eww
lol
short yarrow
anyone here draw UML diagrams before starting your project?
pulsar wigeon
U: looks nothing
M: like the
L: final product
woven otter
w: wiz
i: is
z: dum
pulsar wigeon
d: duck
uck: is delicious
woven otter
yuck
pulsar wigeon
you can disagree but that doesn't make it wrong 🗡️ 🦆
prime pawn
Have any of you ever made a partnership agreement before?
pulsar wigeon
is that like a pre-pre-nup?
prime pawn
ooft, guess not
woven otter
don't dab on duck
proud lance
Do you know if you cut a duck in half, you get two ducks
limber knotBOT
what if I glue it to itself
woven otter
magma u suck
limber knotBOT
how dare you
woven otter
I only say the truth and only truth
limber knotBOT
please you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped its 7 inch rod of truth in your face
Stick your penis in it
woven otter
that's not the truth
limber knotBOT
I mean I call it the truth
woven otter
your truth is not true
limber knotBOT
it's 2019 absolute truths are dead
woven otter
u should be dead too
limber knotBOT
I've been cursed with immortality
woven otter
you have been cursed with noob too
limber knotBOT
yeah anywhere I go to IRC I'm surrounded by noobs
woven otter
But in reality ur the noob
limber knotBOT
a song for you duck https://youtu.be/o8GUcpotcl8
(^-^) Head Shock - Death Grips/HOME Mashup - length 3m 31s - 4,207 likes, 39 dislikes (99.1%) - 192,030 views - ARBON on 2017.01.24
woven otter
what is that
tardy lynx
Are 0 tick farms an intended feature or an exploit?
wide chasm
I'd say an exploit
nova badge
Exploit as they intend on removing them entirely in 1.15
unreal quarry
0 tick farms are a Mojang confirmed bug. Most likely to be fixed in 1.15
Paper already has a fix for them, enabled by default in paper.yml
tardy lynx
Cool, thanks
granite salmon
Arch sites?
woven otter
Arch sites? I thought arch users do everything themselves
golden gust
Well, was the AUR that was dead
void void
unsupported content
who cares
:^)
also fuck yea got my minio setup working
now i can annoy people with extremely long screenshot links!
pew
tho not sure where the fuck i got that image from again but good thing is that this url expires in ~24h and nobody has to see that again
:')
worn ember
Yikes
merry talon
discord's version won't go away
void void
ah then y'all stuck with it forever
cosmic raft
i need to bleach my eyes
golden gust
wut even
mighty swan
Oi
I haven't been keeping up with MC in a while really but I was wondering, is there some good stats on how much it's still played
What I'm interested in is what do you guys estimate the average play time per day to be
worn ember
usually numbers
mighty swan
If you have a server of you and let's say 5 other friends how big part of the day does that server go idle
mighty swan
I guess that's fair
worn ember
couple of hours a day at most
mighty swan
Lil jimmy, age 14 and his 4 pals from math class play maybe 3-4 hours a day?
void void
i bet 5-6
mighty swan
Does that sound reasonable
worn ember
ive had days i'd play mc for 12-14 hours
mighty swan
Yea alright
mighty swan
Yeah I def play longer sessions but I'm trying to figure out the median users
worn ember
really depends on what you're playing and how "replayable" it is
mighty swan
Vanilla survival is my main interest I think
worn ember
i can entertain myself far longer with modded mc than vanilla for instance
i dont think you'll find much stats here most people are devs
and dont/barely play themself
mighty swan
Yeah but I also expect here to be a fair bit of server operators
woven otter
help barty might be dead 😦
void void
wut
woven otter
nah nothing he just hasn't responded to me
void void
@spare venture why are you dead
worn ember
stop dedding
stable ferry
Is there a way I can make doublemoses Raid farm work with paper
potent warren
Hey, would it be possible for someone with a CS degree/know about control flow analysis be able to guide me to some good resources on CFA? I've looked it up online, but I can't seem to be able to do it with just Wikipedia and I'd rather have someone point me in the right direction. Thanks.
worn ember
@potent warren 
tranquil hamlet
Is there a party plugin out there that enables you to right click a player to invite them or something? Not seen a plugin with that sort of functionality anywhere
unreal quarry
@tranquil hamlet have you tried contacting the dev of an existing party plugin you like? This sounds like a feature request that honestly would be trivial for any dev to implement.
tranquil hamlet
Yeahhh I'll ask around 🙂 Just seems like a weird thing for people to of missed? Instead of typing out a bunch of chat stuff just right click someone to bring up a menu of options for them or something idk
merry talon
can I somehow make amazon give me normal shipping instead of their prime shipping
it's actually worse because when they inevitably can't deliver to my building they send it somewhere further away than the post office down the street
unreal quarry
Pretty sure that depends on what the seller offers
proud lance
checkout under a new account
void void
upper flicker
!stats
limber knotBOT
Uptime: 37 days, 13 hours, 25 minutes, 57 seconds
Message Handling: 12ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 7582 (13%)
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latent crystal
cosmic raft
@upper flicker iPhone messages are dumb. bright green blinding background
? wtf apple
upper flicker
uh if youre gonna blind yourself with it in a dark room, you use dark mode
cosmic raft
its really dumb you can't change the colours of things
upper flicker
There's a lot of One True Design™
its all fine until you find something you disagree with
nimble oyster
ancient bolt
I even use light theme intellij sometimes
cyan light to be exact
I think it looks good
¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
no pls
although my terminal is still light
just because I never flipped it to dark
ancient bolt
i switch back and forth between dark and light mode on most of my apps pretty often
void void
ok, demon, im sorry but im ordering a mental health intervention for u as we speak
void void
intervention complete
upper flicker
they did make discord light theme slightly less awful I saw
still not as nice as dark
cosmic raft
order an intervention for me
limber knotBOT
There is a special place in hell for people like you.
upper flicker
but way better than the old
ancient bolt
got a new xbone controller, feels nice
cosmic raft
i have still not chosen a phone
ancient bolt
nice cyan and grey color scheme
so now I have a black xbone controller for the steam link
and this one for my PC
void void
pssst vertanzil
intervention target: kashike
extra notes: make it look like an accident
upper flicker
who would target a cat like that
ancient bolt
i don't use discord light theme
they really don't know how to make a good light them for some reason
well it is nicer than it was before
limber knotBOT
throws kashike under a buss
ancient bolt
so that's cool
ancient bolt
I've had instances where in the morning the sun shines directly onto my screen at work
upper flicker
You just threw this under a bus https://i.imgur.com/DA3riKe.png
limber knotBOT
^
ancient bolt
so I typically use light mode everything in that case
upper flicker
thats pretty much a ban
ancient bolt
our discord server image needs a transparent background
now that I see it in light mode
void void
i smokk weed
limber knotBOT
pics DemonWav
upper flicker
because thats originally what it was when we switched
adding that stupid backdrop was more work
ones of clicks
ugh
limber knotBOT
what you getting
Vertanzil__: guess!
:D
._.
you know you are so jelly of my phone
take a real guess
Google pixel 4?
was tempted to
Overpriced and shitty Iphone 11 max
pro max? no
proud lance
the one plus
limber knotBOT
good guess
proud lance
was it the one plus or are you saying good guess, try again
limber knotBOT
oneplus
proud lance
since we talked about it I am still honestly considering it
I really like the idea of how the one plus stores its camera as an ejectable instead of taking screen space
limber knotBOT
after spending Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and now Wednesday
thinking about this all
It came down to Google Pixel 4 XL, iPhone 11, and OnePlus 7 Pro
Good news, all those weird YT channels that target kids are going to die
proud lance
honestly good choice
limber knotBOT
pets Amaranth
No more random unboxing videos showing up in my watch next
eliminated Xiaomi, Huawei, LG, Honor, Oppo, Samsung
and others
dont you like samsung?
their SSDs sure
but it looks like they have dumb stuff still
for example
If Google thinks your video is aimed at kids (and you haven't explicitly said it isn't and defended that opinion if Google thinks otherwise) your video can no longer have ads or comments
bixby
Bixby sucks
I have an s8 i disabled it
upper flicker
nice
limber knotBOT
You can disable it but you can't make the hardware button do something useful
limber knotBOT
So it's just this vestigial thing hanging off your phone
cosmic raft
you can even make it open Google Assistant using another app
I looked into everything when finding a phone :D
limber knotBOT
If I had a Samsung phone I'd need one with an unlocked bootloader because it wouldn't run stock longer than it took to make sure the hardware worked
why? :P
I'd be running LineageOS or OmniRom
Because Samsung's stock image has two versions of every app :P
Hell I think it might even have three for a few
The Google one, the Samsung one, and the stock Android one
lol
They usually have some junk like Facebook and apps from the carrier
worn ember
Android is bloated nowadays
limber knotBOT
you are bloated
worn ember
Ur moms bloated with dicks
void void
:o
worn ember
limber knotBOT
Seriously though, turns out YouTube was breaking the law (and letting video creators do so) so now are cracking down hard
void void
Hey guys, just curious whats the general purpose of a PacketWrapper?
limber knotBOT
Videos aimed at kids will no longer get notifications, comments, ads, show up in search results, or show up in the recommended videos list
So they basically don't exist unless you subscribe to the channel and manually check it every so often
void void
I've seen a few plugins carry them internally just wondering what the point is of a PacketWrapper
they wrap packets :^)
limber knotBOT
videos for kids won't be in search results? that seems weird
void void
like christmas
Hmm, I'm a returning Java Developer; I've done most of spigot functionally unfortunately
I'm not getting that term I haven't dealt with pckets yet
it's more than likely from protocol lib. sending packets is a bunch of BS, so that lib provides a generic wrapper to let you send many different types of packets with a single api
So for Tablist API, or a Scoreboard API?
if they need packets yes
I'm assuming they do
for a multi version api
tablist doesnt anymore, as far as i know because bukkit added an api for it
i mean, yeah, if targeting old
I'm sayin like 1.7.10 - 1.8.9
limber knotBOT
Scoreboard has an API too
limber knotBOT
I worked on it and I haven't touched Bukkit since before 1.8
void void
I just like them; I grew up on 1.7.10 but I should really move on to 1.9+
limber knotBOT
I suppose technically no one has but yeah :P
void void
but I can't upgrade versions till I complete a few projects
How difficult on a scale of 1 - 10 would creating a Scoreboard, and Tablist API be for 1.7.10 ~ 1.8.9.
Because I plan on coming back to Spigot after I certify myself on Java.
@void void
Don't know. I don't code for those anymore. It's been literal years.
Do you code with Bukkit still or anything related to Minecraft?
void void
A job's* a job 🤷♂️
worn ember
PS?
worn ember
1.14 is trash
void void
are there loads of inprovements?
worn ember
Sure to the api. But mojang did their best to fuck chunkloading
void void
rip
worn ember
So running a world without pregenning is pretty much impossible now if you want to keep any tps lol
1.12 is still my favorite version
placid sapphire
limber knotBOT
ah, a fellow trader?!
fringe hemlock
hey guys
I literally wanted to kms I thought waterfall was like 1.8 lmao so last 6 hours or so I was trying to use waterfall to start up a server only reason was first time using paper and ubuntu home server I made
limber knotBOT
cool story
vestal jasper
ok
toxic path
void void
lilac zephyr
vivid agate
Hey. Which plugin is suitable for use as an item currency? For example, mystical dust
vivid agate
Yes, I thought about it, but it’s on the Bukkit and apparently the developer abandoned the work on it.
limber knotBOT
Being on Bukkit isn't necessarily a bad thing
In fact a lot of larger plugins are only on bukkit
vivid agate
I mean to make a custom currency from an item and implement it through an exchange with shopkeepers
void void
bukkit plugins run on spigot, also run on paper...
if you aren't aware yet
shopkeepers?
limber knotBOT
(I was referring to dev.bukkit.org and spigot resources btw, not server compatibility)
void void
you mean villagers or the shopkeepers from shopkeepers plugin?
vivid agate
I mean, the developer abandoned his project and the last update was in July;)
I want to realize, for example, a fiery powder object and change its name, description and make it like a "currency"
sharp sentinel
July is also very recent, that means it's probably 1.14 compatible?
vivid agate
I thought there was a better solution.
tall drum
vivid agate
yeah i mean shopkeepers
ah
This plugin rather makes the currency virtual, but I meant the currency as a mystical dust
void void
wdym virtual
yes you can interact with it using plugins which support /pay /balance etc. (aka Vault API based economy), but instead of virtual numbers, items are used instead
if you want a new currency next to your main (virtual or whatever) then you have to look into different solutions
vivid agate
I'm thinking about TNE right now
wispy onyx
woven otter
did you miss it
upper flicker
:duckn’t:
void void
Anyone got any idea what these mean?
It's for an assignment
not the actual information
but the red parts
it's saying I'm missing imports
golden gust
You're missing dependencies
golden gust
with maven, you'd just need to add the dependencies required to the pom
shell vine
https://github.com/TheBusyBiscuit/CS-CoreLib2/pull/33
gdi these guys are incompetent assholes
golden gust
Also, Phan, billy had a pl0gen to disable phantom spawns for people in creative; if you wanna disable them as a whole, ez route is prooobably to just blacklist them with worldguard if you got that already
shell vine
yea its already taken care of
void void
Nice
golden gust
inb4 phanatic gets banned from discord
I mean, github
God damn my brain is worse than MiniDigger's
void void
Am so fuckin tried and residually high from last night, and I'm sitting in class and prof is talking to me about all this shit cuz im the only one here
and i cannot maintain this convo help
trying to look busy on my pc so he'll stop
woven otter
simple what's wrong with u
void void
fak u
limber knotBOT
fak me? fak u biatch
hey amazon where's my package
how come none of the tracking numbers that amazon's been giving me are working
poor trillion dollar company doesn't have the funds to get their shit together
upper flicker
.tw 1197553118214578182
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Error: [{'code': 32, 'message': 'Could not authenticate you.'}]
limber knotBOT
lol, let's see if I manager to update my server to 1.14 before 1.15 is fully released, lol
*manage
quasi valley
"Optimized chunk rendering" let's see about that 
tawdry coyote
wait so 1.15 releases in 20 days reee
pulsar wigeon
i mean, rendering
given that they've been working on a new rendering engine, that's not too hard to believe tbh
coarse urchin
stone silo
oh wow I'm so glad they decided to do that AFTER I did my 256x256 perimeter
stone silo
has anyone checked pillager pathfinding in the snapshots?
it's fucking terrible in 1.14 and brings my server to its knees
tawdry coyote
i remember seeing that they supposedly fixed that in one of the snapshots
restive turtle
[18:44:42] [Server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 15760ms or 315 ticks behind
Im running on 1.14.4
upper flicker
You arent running Paper
coarse urchin
Lmao
placid thicket
What's wrong with honey blocks? I've seen no issues so far
heady spear
this dumb lab report is 11 pages and I'm nowhere near done yet
I hate lab reports, they succ
also why do I always postpone these things until like two days before they're due
wide chasm
Because then you can get the enjoyment of stress /s