accurate
#general
void void
limber knotBOT
so I was basically going to bed at any time and waking up at any time
bed at 3 pm and wake up at midnight? no prob
I swear I was also at my most productive back then
worn ember
that was pretty hot
void void
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Joey Quits (worker quits hotel job with a marching band) - length 3m 19s - 108,191 likes, 2,444 dislikes (97.8%) - 7,261,684 views - La Neve on 2011.10.13
void void
worn ember
thats sad
void void
for whom
worn ember
google play alexa
limber knotBOT
siri play bixby
void void
how long would it take for an earring hole to completely close?
limber knotBOT
depends on how much of a slut your ear is
void void
well i've had it for like 2 years or smth
void void
but wasn't wearing the earring for a good 2 months, just put an earring in and it went in just fine
was kinda curious if it would have closed a bit
but nop
limber knotBOT
I don't think that it'll close again at this point
void void
meh watever
limber knotBOT
that's what she said
limber knotBOT
they are
I've played both and they def are
I actually found her to be one of the easier bosses
there's some bosses in there that had me stuck for 6 hours
there's worse
there are some bosses out there that are largely okay but have that one move they use at random which is 100x harder to deal with than anything else
usually it's a mix of a ranged attack with a stunlock
and it's either AOE or conical
get hit? try it all over again
yeah there's some bosses where you just can't be at certain ranges or you'll simply die
I need to beat the game at some point
part of the issue is that I've not touched it in so long that I'd basically have to relearn it from scratch
and I'm not at a point where I could/should be doing that
meh you're not missing out on much unless you're not looking at the move sets
you will have to upgrade the weapons
this is absolutely not a game where weapon upgrades are optional
I learned that one the hard way
cosmic raft
dusty sapphire
heady spear
I wanna be a father
heady spear
You're just jealous because my kids would be smarter than you
They'd also probably be bipolar alcoholics, and those are the best
heady spear
I just love the idea of raising a bunch of blue eyed, blonde children
so they can continue fighting the good fight, you know?
limber knotBOT
next he will have his hand above his head his fingers straight and hailing to a man in charge
heady spear
Yes! I love that! Hand gestures are the best
limber knotBOT
you're saying you don't say hello to your ethnically similar neighbors Vertanzil ?
that's not very neighborly of you
heres my favorite
I'll set a night aside for dealing with people like oyu
simple hemlock
heady spear
magma sounds like a nazi
woven otter
ur the nazy
woven otter
ur the hitler
limber knotBOT
baby hi8tler?
limber knotBOT
I'm the chad hitler was trying to become
^-^ is a butt rubber
that too
Oh fuck mr pickles s4 is out
woven otter
@heady spear ur waste of space and time
woven otter
๐ญ
limber knotBOT
Cityweebstret YOu smell of penis.
worn ember
you are what you eat
pulsar wigeon
I thought you were a duck
woven otter
I thought you didn't like pings
pulsar wigeon
what does that have to do with my love for eating delicious duck
limber knotBOT
s/duck/dick
pulsar wigeon
are you volunteering to cut off your dick and roast it
i doubt that would be a very filling meal anyway. barely enough for a snack.
woven otter
I will ping till you stop trying to eat me
pulsar wigeon
i mean tbh you're probably gross
you're probably some rotten old duck scraps that aren't even good enough to feed to a pet dog
woven otter
bully
left swift
jolly lintel
charred rivet
barren seal
arctic ocean
i keep getting this weird error ~~", i don't really know what plugin caused it :(
[11:38:42 ERROR]: --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH ---
[11:38:42 ERROR]: The server has not responded for 19 seconds! Creating thread dump
[11:38:42 ERROR]: ------------------------------
[11:38:42 ERROR]: Server thread dump (Look for plugins here before reporting to Paper!):
[11:38:42 ERROR]: ------------------------------
[11:38:42 ERROR]: Current Thread: Server thread
[11:38:42 ERROR]: PID: 29 | Suspended: false | Native: false | State: TIMED_WAITING
[11:38:42 ERROR]: Stack:
[11:38:42 ERROR]: java.lang.Thread.sleep(Native Method)
[11:38:42 ERROR]: net.minecraft.server.v1_12_R1.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:644)
[11:38:42 ERROR]: java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
[11:38:42 ERROR]: ------------------------------
[11:38:42 ERROR]: --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH ---
[11:38:42 ERROR]: ------------------------------
golden gust
1.12.2 is no longer supported, the fact that it's reporting at 19 seconds and not at say, 10, and the fact that it fired while the server was sleeping, points to your server basically being overloaded to all heck
woven otter
cat will you support 1.8.x for me
wide chasm
He only does 1.8.3 beta
wide chasm
๐
Oh, wait, gotta stop using those emojis now that they made them so stupidly large
woven otter
actually scratch that I want 1.2.5
quasi valley
and still no option to turn them down, thanks discord
wide chasm
hands duck 1.2.5 minecraft of project rainbow
woven otter
project rainbow? ๐ค
limber knotBOT
that's pretty gay
woven otter
wow u homophobe
limber knotBOT
didn't say it was a bad thing ;)
void void
Not Acceptable
An appropriate representation of the requested resource / could not be found on this server.
woven otter
Interesting ๐ค
void void
works with https
woven otter
magma ur cute
woven otter
u r too but we don't bully u
void void
thats cute
woven otter
or just not enough
wide chasm
All insane developers get in line
woven otter
Sodium
pulsar wigeon
like "you don't get to sleep, you're on call 24/7"
void void
fucking noobs, i swear
those are ridiculously easy fucks to make :c
i wish noobs wouldnt reply to those kinds of threads
wide chasm
It's a coinflip plugin though, you have to worry about two possible states. I'd be overwhelemed by that as well, ngl.
wide chasm
Ah, yes, the beautiful smell of generics.
void void
that's the joke u fuk
wide chasm
You're a joke
void void
wide chasm
I personally like to do this:
@Nullable Optional<Boolean>```
That way you have four whole states.
5 actually stef
null, not null, optional resolves null, optional resolves true, optional resolves false
wide chasm
Ah shit, I'm even smarter than I thought.
wide chasm
Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if I saw something like this at work.
The code there is so unbelievably bad, I don't get paid enough to work with it tbh.
void void
reminds me of my last job
and my current job
too much stress on fast iteration and not quality lol
wide chasm
Quality is non-existent here.
void void
my current job's entire site infrastructure INCLUDING rest apis is wordpress
so
you wanna tell me about horrible
new rest api = new wordpress plugin exposing rest interface
im not even kidding
wide chasm
lol
I learned this great trick at work, if you need to store dates in a database, you can just use varchar(10).
wide chasm
Don't worry, the year 10000 is almost 8000 years away, it'll be fine
woven otter
๐
limber knotBOT
man my life has been feeling super loose for the past 3 days
scenic sparrow
void void
so, ye i may be goin back to irc perma
apparently discord got bought by tencent
communist platform levelup
wait maybe not im being fed fake news
woven otter
irc in current year
tawdry coyote
yeah just use google's quantum computer do a little magic and presto u have a coinflip plugin
subtle hollow
i love trolldude's comment
i think we should use a google api for the coinflip
or just this
unreal quarry
Hard to tell, here. A lot of dumb questions pop up
subtle hollow
Ah ok
i thought the fair dice thing made it obvious
and this
yeah just use google's quantum computer do a little magic and presto u have a coinflip plugin
and thei put
gloomy sphinx
rip java hello bedrock raytracing?
looks amazing. makes me wonder about the future of java
void void
yeah idk wat the obsession with retexturing mc is about. for me its just a novelty but gimme dat default pls
stone silo
better textures can help older games that were limited by their hardware, but only to an extent. There's a certain point where you lose the idea of the original. But yeah, something like Minecraft was built with a certain aesthetic in mind,
Some of the lighting could be fixed because it's real janky at points, but it doesn't need raytraced water and shit
void void
tfw seven and the doctor singing together
"You look beautiful."
"Thank you. You look beautiful as well."
worn ember
Who are you to judge how people play their games tho
worn ember
thats the problem
dude from shaders makes like 80k a month from it
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
and thats only his patreon
oh sorry its only 50k
woven otter
Imagine making shaders for a living
worn ember
imagine making 8x the amount doing it compared to a regular job
woven otter
indeed
worn ember
well more even
woven otter
I wonder how much time daily does he actually spend working on shaders
worn ember
idk
void void
@golden gust im high as fuck
woven otter
why are you high
void void
why not
limber knotBOT
Shaders dude isn't just making shaders, he has to wire up the pipeline to get the shaders the data they want
Which iirc in newer versions of the mod is a surprisingly dynamic thing
limber knotBOT
Amaranth: what phone do you like these days? :P
I just got a OnePlus 7T
90Hz ftw
Amaranth: what made you choose the 7T over the 7 Pro?
thanks
you try choosing!
which is?
so you're an apple fan? :P
proud lance
I kinda wish, phones were like all stock versions of android where I can install apps on top instead of custom builds
limber knotBOT
would be nice
proud lance
I only started doing android with pixel
I am hesitant going to any other brand cause I want latest security updates, not delayed versions through custom builds
limber knotBOT
I went Samsung Galaxy S3 -> Samsung Galaxy S5 -> Google Pixel -> Google Pixel 3 XL
proud lance
IOS isn't bad
I liked it too
but that aside, I really like the OnePlus phones
the way they look
limber knotBOT
Amaranth: poke :P
proud lance
camera is centered on the back, logo is clean, no mess
placid thicket
keep in mind, if you don't care about warranty, any android device can run default android and get updates
proud lance
My concern with doing that is functionality things breaking, like for example if you get he one plus, the fingerprint scanner not working
or the selfie camera
void void
vestal jasper
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
worn ember
Ok boomer
jovial tulip
vestal jasper
I usually take half hour breaks during
Like I'll do an hour of coding then half an hour of something else
golden gust
That's why I'm on meds ๐
limber knotBOT
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<&kashike> Amaranth: what made you choose the 7T over the 7 Pro?
kashike: 7T is cheaper, faster, and slightly smaller
Only downside is 1080p instead of 1440p but I care more about the refresh rate and they're both 90Hz
7 Pro is $739, 7T is $799 right now
how do you like it Amaranth?
Are you looking at the lowest spec 7 Pro? It only has 6GB of RAM vs 8GB on the 7T
Although the price probably came down some too since the 7T and 7T Pro exist
8 GB RAM + 256 GB Storage
I love this phone, the screen is gorgeous and I never want to use a phone with 60Hz again
It's fast enough that I never notice it taking time to do something or any hitches when scrolling around
what did you have before the 7T?
Haven't used the camera a ton but that's always been somewhat of a weakness with the OnePlus phone
I had an Essential Phone
ah
Amaranth: https://i.imgur.com/9JNWFCl.png I've been trying to decide for 2 days now basically
Wait, that shows the 7 Pro is more expensive
old prices on there
I wouldn't go with anything from Honor or Huawei in general
The modding community for those phones is pretty garbage, I had one before the Essential Phone
Oppo will probably have the same problem although it should have the advantage of being a snapdragon and being close in specs to the OnePlus phones so might do okay
Apparently the Pixel 4 has issues with the 90Hz display, something about not being 90Hz at lower brightness levels
Might have been patched though, dunno if it was on purpose or not
But I'd say the G8 ThinQ (don't know enough about it but haven't heard anything bad), OnePlus 7T/7 Pro, or a Pixel 4 if you're looking for current flagships worth getting
If you're willing to go down a level that'd be the Pixel 3, last year's iPhone, or the OnePlus 6T
you're the first to mention LG being worth it
LG screens have a really bad rep, I'd worry about that and doublecheck the reviews
Dunno how the modding community is for the LG phones either
If that's a concern for you that pretty much only leaves the OnePlus and Pixel from your list
I think I considered the G* ThinQ before I found out about the specs of the 7T
Pretty expensive though :P
proud lance
oh does your 7t do google call screening?
limber knotBOT
No :(
limber knotBOT
pixel only
proud lance
I use that a LOT
proud lance
wdym?
limber knotBOT
feature not available here
proud lance
weird, I wonder why that since since it just basically asks the person on the other end who they are and transcribes it
limber knotBOT
Pixel also has that cool things were it can tell you what song is playing on the ambient display
Amaranth: that feature isn't very useful
doesn't work half the time
proud lance
works on mine, but I only really tested with spotify
limber knotBOT
You don't even have to ask, it uses a special low power AI accelerator and a local database of fingerprints for the most popular 10000 songs or so
If you're listening to something other than the latest pop hits it'll probably be hit and mmiss
always miss really :P
proud lance
well shit, I forgot about call screening
vestal jasper
I'd avoid LG phones unless you enjoy your fingerprint scanner breaking after half a year of use and your phone eventually deciding to crash every time you open an app
limber knotBOT
so korean phone is out
leaves chinese or googlese
Could always get an S10+ :P
lmao
Amaranth: know if samsung phones are okay these days
?
They've always been pretty good on the hardware side of things
But they're more likely to have a locked bootloader and they have a bloated OS
blah
OnePlus doesn't have an IPXX rating, btw
They claim it is okay for a splash and maybe a quick immersion but they didn't want to spend money getting it certified
blah
well
If you want Android, want an unlocked bootloader, want an active modding community, and want an IPXX rating so you know it's waterproof and such then that pretty much leaves Pixel phones
the thing is
$1129 for Pixel 4 XL
$739 for OnePlus 7 Pro
Or maybe the S10 if they sell and unlocked version
Yeah, that's part of why I'm willing to take their word for it and just hope :D
the Oppo Reno 2 isn't too bad price/spec wise
Yeah, that phone looks pretty nice, it's the same company as OnePlus
So the best parts of it will probably be in the OnePlus 8 :P
Just not sure about the community around it
"community" of what
People porting gcam, magisk, LineageOS, etc
ah
Oh yeah, I was also worried about how long the popup selfie camera would last on the 7 Pro, that's right
(kashike) Pixel 4 XL Teardown! - Why does Google's Phone Snap? - length 8m 13s - 30,267 likes, 490 dislikes (98.4%) - 594,806 views - JerryRigEverything on 2019.11.18
:D
They recommend the Pixel 4 but only just
I forgot about the motion controls thing on the Pixel
And it doesn't have a fingerprint sensor, it's face unlock or use a pattern or passcode like a pleb :P
And apparently the face unlock works when you have your eyes closed so someone could get in your phone while you're sleeping (or dead)
yes
$1129
proud lance
yeah, that was my issue too
no fingerprint sensor
I use my phone in my car a lot for flipping through songs
limber knotBOT
maybe I'll go iPhone
proud lance
I can feel for the button, now its gone completely
vestal jasper
my phone's fingerprint scanner broke a few weeks ago and it's so fucking terrible feeling not having it
limber knotBOT
7T doesn't have a button either, it's in screen
vestal jasper
in screen is still wayyy better than pattern or face
proud lance
yeah but I can feel for it
vestal jasper
at least imo
limber knotBOT
Having the sensor on the front is nice for poking at it when it's on your desk but I never wanted a Galaxy because that button took up too much of the front
proud lance
you have to angle to your face or unsafely move your head to it
limber knotBOT
So in screen is perfect for me
proud lance
it sucks cause I want something new after my pixel 2
Amaranth, do you use any call screening apps on yours?
just wondering what alternatives exist
limber knotBOT
Nope, phone app just has that spam/scam checking thing built in
But it doesn't answer the phone and screen my calls, just tells me it thinks the number is bad which is useless when they're spoofing a local cell phone number
my phone does an actual pretty good job in letting me know if it thinks it is spam/scam number
Apparently I've had call screening for a long time though if I wanted it
Just not as useful as the Pixel version
it also lets me know where that phone number originates from state wise
iPhone? yay or nay :D
Numbers that have been legitimate, those I wanted to call me have yet to be shown as a scam/spam number on my phone so I it works for me
proud lance
I have a problem where some are marked as spam and thats ok
but the ones that slip through are usually bs, I have a recruiter who tries to constantly call me
and wants my contact info so he can send me some marketing bs
limber knotBOT
kashike: Solid phone, solid OS, I just don't want to be in that ecosystem
Probably the best all around phone hardware you can buy
the 11 (non-Pro) is $979, which isn't too too bad
proud lance
you are really buying the phone for the ecosystem tbh
which isn't a bad thing
iPhone doesn't have fingerprint reader anymore does it?
Amaranth: "Every time you reboot your device, you'll again have to activate the Call Screen feature in the Phone app for the time being."
oof
limber knotBOT
Yeah, it's also a lot of work to get it but maybe it's better now, would need to look in to it more
proud lance
like why is this so hard, Google, give us your cool features, phone manufacturers include a fingerprint reader
limber knotBOT
I haven't actually rooted my 7T yet, the longer I put it off the more I don't want to because that's going to require a data wipe
so don't root it? :P
Oh, in the US at least the OnePlus 7 Pro is currently $150 off
$549
$200 off here
Yeah, well, $200 CAD is $150 USD, right? :P
or $250, one of the two
$200
CA$939.00 -> CA$739.00
$151.44 USD
So same deal
yup
and on the 24th the Pixel 4/4 XL is $250 off here
$200 in the uS
At $549 I might have gone with the 7 Pro
But eh, it is what it is
Oh yeah, the 7 Pro also does that dumb curved screen thing
yikes
vestal jasper
mfw apple batteries
limber knotBOT
yeah
vestal jasper
they fucking rip out the headphone jack for "space" reasons, don't even utilize the space, and continue to have comparatively poor batteries
at least the pro max's compares to the others reasonably well
limber knotBOT
but the price
vestal jasper
... for the largest price in all of the phones in that spreadsheet
limber knotBOT
yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
limber knotBOT
no it isn't
vestal jasper
mfw
limber knotBOT
since, you know, I'm in Canada
vestal jasper
same currency symbol for two different currencies
limber knotBOT
and the "Price (CAD)" header
vestal jasper
I generally don't put much weight on where people live
nor do I care to heavily inspect every single image I see
limber knotBOT
Apple might have smaller batteries but they still do great in battery life comparisons
I can't decide on what to get
They spend transistors like crazy to make super wide low power CPUs and GPUs
help me Amaranth
limber knotBOT
iPhone 11, Pixel 4, or OP7Pro seems like the choices to me
iP11's battery sucks
P4 is expensive :/
Battery size or battery life?
size
iPhone 11 battery life is better than Pixel 4 and OP7Pro though
Those both get around 8-9 hours, iPhone 11 gets 11
For our smartphone battery life test, we set all phone screens to 150 nits of screen brightness and then continuously surf the web over 4G LTE, typically using T-Mobile's network for consistency. The test automatically loads a new website every 30 seconds until the battery drains.
link?
Internet might have died, not sure if I'm still here
you are
Closed the page to load another one with more direct comparisons, it's not loading and neither is the previous one
nice
limber knotBOT
This one has the 7 Pro at 10 and the iPhone 11 at 14
proud lance
thats one thing apple does really well, is giving you good battery life
limber knotBOT
Pixel 4 isn't on there but it's comparable to the Pixel 3 apparently which got just under 9
lol
iP11 beats iP11Pro
Apple's custom CPU cores are gigantic compared to the Kyro cores in a Snapdragon
They spend a lot of money on their CPUs, that's why they're faster and use less power
It's not so much secret sauce as it is Qualcomm would have to double the price for their SoCs to make something that uses that many transistors
hm
Means they can do more power gating, run wider and slower which uses less power, etc
They only moved to the big.LITTLE model with their latest phones iirc, before that their perf/W was good enough to just have one kind of core used for all workloads
Of course their entire OS is written in something with comparable performance to Go so they need the extra oomph sometimes just to keep up but they went way beyond that
The only reason I don't have an iPhone is I lke tinkering with my phone and there is no iOS phone you could use other than the iPhone so you're pretty locked in once you start buying apps and such
this is such a hard choice
limber knotBOT
Amaranth: so, with the OnePlus stuff
can they survive rain?
like when walking, standing, etc
btw apparently it would cost an extra $30 for the phone to have an IPXX rating
(Amaranth) OnePlus 7 Series - We just bought a bucket. - length 30s - 14,961 likes, 1,158 dislikes (92.8%) - 2,639,001 views - OnePlus on 2019.05.03
really? $30
that's dumb
There are a lot of videos online already that dunk the Oneplus 7 Pro for a few minutes underwater. From these outlets I knew there was a good chance the phone could survive a light splashing and an underwater dunk for at least five minutes. Because of this, I started my testing with a 10-minute submersion.
So yeah, I think you'll be alright in the rain
Aside from the usual where the screen acts weird when there are water drops on it that is common to all capacitive touchscreens
You know, doesn't read a touch or reads it as a bigger move than you actually did and such
After a few hours to let it dry out, I dunked the phone again for 30 minutes. This is the standard method CNET uses for water-resistant phones that are IP-rated. It's what I would consider the bare minimum requirement of a solid, water resistant phone. Once again, the phone survived. The phone's screen, camera and connectivity were also all intac
t.
Looks like it died when they tried it 3 feet in a pool though
So yeah, light splashing, dropping it in the toilet, maybe even showering with it sound fine
Also to clear water from the speaker before the pool test they apparently used an air compressor so yeah... might have broken a seal or something there
lol
think people should also be aware there is a big difference between water resistant and water proof
water resistant is usually about 5-10 meters under the water which isn't too bad. Most pools are not that deep lol
vestal jasper
I wouldn't even have my phone close to a pool
water resistance sounds nice though, I'm probably more likely to drop my phone in the sink than a pool
limber knotBOT
only thing I really wouldn't advise is routinely putting a phone or other type of electronic routinely in pool mainly because of the chlorine which eats away at rubber
vestal jasper
nor would I intentionally put my phone in water 
short yarrow
anyone know if datacenters buy servers from like dell/hp or do they build an entire server from scratch
limber knotBOT
Most data centers buy pre-built servers
and some build their own to fit their needs
but it is far cheaper to buy pre-builts for the purpose of re-selling their use
and for in house custom servers
Currently HP is the popular choice for servers @short yarrow
I wouldn't recommend Dell just because I dislike them, so if I had to choose a second brand it would be cisco lol
limber knotBOT
I disliked them ever since I had a dell and then it just died on its own and had a second one do the same. They were desktop's with pentium 4's so quite a while back, but they had a habit of not tuning the hardware they through together though
so you can end up with a decent desktop with a subpar CPU only because they didn't bother to mess with the clock setting on the CPU even though the hardware in it could handle it
So, I just never bought anything Dell after that. I stuck with HP for computers or lenovo's which are not too bad just don't expect to play on high graphic settings with games lol
The best computer I have had which still runs today, is a Gateway Pentium 3 lol
placid thicket
see, i have had extremely bad experiences with HP consumer laptops but not dell (except for one that likes to randomly bluescreen for no reason) acer and asus have both been good to me tho, never had an issue
(yet)
don't buy alienware, they are flashy and cool, but basically just a super expensive dell
MSI seems to be the better laptop option right now TBH
same way you see a 6 button x dpi mouse for $30 next to a 6 button x dpi 'gaming' mouse for $200
i like thinkpads. i just have never found one with gaming power
i will admit, dell support is absolutely useless and their payment practices are retarded
reminds me of when i worked at AT&T as TS T2 and would get forwarded questions directly from sales or billing about how to restart a phone
like not reset, just turn off and back on.
- how the FUCK do you not know that?
- WHY are you transferring to T2 to find out?
mighty swan
limber knotBOT
Alienware was good before dell bought them out
forest python
oak charm
heady spear
Just watched my professor write a hashset implementation for like an hour
I feel like I know less than I did before. This was the saddest thing Iโve ever witnessed
high gate
limber knotBOT
Java 14 will be lit
patent wraith
Why?
limber knotBOT
https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/359 and https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/305 will most likely ship with Java 14
together with making switch expressions a Standard and better text blocks
and well, helpful NPEs
Looking like a good release already
broken wasp
jep305 looks super nice
undone wraith
crisp furnace
vestal jasper
pog
fallen jungle
Actually using Java 14 seems so far away though ๐ฉ I'm using Java only for Minecraft plugin development, so until these two work together I won't be able to use it
limber knotBOT
At least in Java9+ there are multi-version jars
fallen jungle
I don't think that'll help since I either use the new features or don't
limber knotBOT
It means you can still load the base plugin class to tell people to update Java etc
Which is better than nothing
fallen jungle
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
really I only make plugins for myself, so I just need to tell myself to update Java
But e.g. Java 13 is not supported at all
This is what I get when I try to launch the server with Java 13
limber knotBOT
It works on Paper 1.14.4 doesn't it?
fallen jungle
Does it? I'll try updating
limber knotBOT
My local test server runs Java 13
Mostly because I can't be bothered telling it the full path and java points to Java 13
fallen jungle
Ah ok nvm, the server jar on this laptop is way older than I thought, I've updated more frequently on my PC
Wait no, I do have 1.14.4
limber knotBOT
I just update whenever I see that warning, it's quite literally a plugin test server so I don't care about which build
I run my Servers on Java 13
that warning was updated to support 13 once 13 was released
fallen jungle
Latest release works perfectly indeed
wide chasm
I'd prefer the fields to be non-final by default and only be final if you put the final keyword in front of them for JEP 359. But other than that, it looks good.
limber knotBOT
Is JEP 359 records?
wide chasm
Yes
limber knotBOT
If so, non-final somewhat defeats the purpose of them
wide chasm
Why?
wide chasm
Sure, and I agree that sealed data types are usually the way to go, however in some cases having a data class that is mutable can be very useful (for example to avoid overhead of new object allocations). The final by default policy also strays away from the default with Java, where fields are mutable by default.
limber knotBOT
its still an object
records are just syntax sugar
this is not value types yet
For now, in the JEP they talk about enhancing it with sealed types
ADT in Java would be great
After using more typing-heavy languages I've got to say Java annoys me with the rigidity of its type system
Not how strict it is, but rather how limited in expression it is
heady spear
what languages have you been using?
limber knotBOT
Mostly TypeScript
what languages support Abstract data types? and how does it look syntacticly?
heady spear
I'm so used to Java that all other modi operandi feel hella foreign to me
limber knotBOT
https://blog.carbonfive.com/2018/01/08/an-introduction-to-adts-and-structural-pattern-matching-in-typescript/ <- Haskell is a good example
But TS has most of this
In fact, TS is used in their real world example on there
heady spear
That is quite cool
sharp sentinel
This line right here, creates a type which is a union of all "id" fields in an array of objects
void void
that's indeed a good read
sharp sentinel
const TYPE_MAPPING = [
{
id: 'a'
},
{
id: 'b'
}
] as readonly;
export type ContentType = typeof TYPE_MAPPING[number]['id'];
// ContentType === 'a' | 'b'
I'm still a bit confused on the real-world example, especially the part where they get the error codes tbh. Like, why is it beneficial to call logLineParseResult, then specify 0 for everything but an error and the error code for errors? Why would that be better than for example, filtering beforehand to ensure all log lines are of type error, then map those to the error code directly, without the need to specify the other log types as 0?
timid venture
what's with all the people talking through bots here lol
wide chasm
They use IRC
wide chasm
How many people have you already killed so far?
wide chasm
Ugh, fine, but make it swift.
heady spear
Yay murder fun
wide chasm
I think City wants to be your second victim.
heady spear
No I just wanna watch
wide chasm
Don't you want to experience it yourself?
limber knotBOT
it is indeed a once in a lifetime experience
wide chasm
Just get another lifetime and experience it again.
heady spear
Some people should barely have one
wide chasm
Like you
wide chasm
Wow, you're rude
heady spear
Youโre useless
wide chasm
Better to not do anything than only being rude
limber knotBOT
well I am not exactly sure what else city would do
heady spear
I can be nice, I just choose not to.
void void
ok weeb
heady spear
What do u want fuckface
void void
wanna fite?
heady spear
Wait no I like u because you use a mbp so youโre clearly a great mind
Iโll fight you but only if weโre naked
heady spear
I implied no such thing. I said nothing about the computer
limber knotBOT
is it also going to be a mud fight as well?
heady spear
youโre clearly too dumb to be great, so I take that back
limber knotBOT
nothing was said about a computer either, for all we know you are both talking about a construction company lol
heady spear
Also no I donโt want to visit your country again. Itโs gross.
quasi valley
wow estoniaist
heady spear
Iโll happily discriminate against Estonians
wide chasm
I'll happily discriminate against Cityweebstrets.
heady spear
Stef youโre irrelevant
quasi valley
wow weebist
wide chasm
You're irrelevant
wide chasm
๐
heady spear
I hate u
quasi valley
these negative vibes don't fit your femininity, city
heady spear
Lick my pussy
quasi valley
vestal jasper
๐ค
heady spear
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) The Sound of the Coptic Language (Midnight Praises) - length 1m 22s - 1,108 likes, 22 dislikes (98.1%) - 56,855 views - I Love Languages! on 2018.09.15
void void
Also no I donโt want to visit your country again. Itโs gross.
no ur gross
vestal jasper
city is gross
void void
ye
quasi valley
just set his fursuit tail on fire and let him pretend to be a pokemon until he burns away
heady spear
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Old Swedish: Languages of the World: Introductory Overview - length 9m 7s - 400 likes, 5 dislikes (98.8%) - 59,424 views - Alexander Arguelles on 2008.08.20
heady spear
This is a really interesting video
woven otter
void void
fucks sake concourse ci
there's no reasonable way to pass shell scripts
either 1) create a docker image containing your script or 2) a git repo
meanwhile i found 5000 iq solution:
yaml abooze
but works perfectly, lol
woven otter
what team mikro
woven otter
your status
void void
that's... longer story
void void
explain
potent warren
well, how hard is it to do that from scratch ;-;
potent warren
๐
I don't get why people discriminate against a DSL
....
oh well, time to ask somewhere else.
limber knotBOT
o.O
limber knotBOT
a DSL?
potent warren
Domain Specific Language....
vestal jasper
People make fun of skript because skript is retarded
potent warren
well, so is Java...
and Kotlin..
and Scala..
and C#...
and F#
and.... ya know..
all of them
frozen pewter
vestal jasper
Ok but there's not much overhead when running java mods for java mc
potent warren
Well, people don't pretend Skript doesn't have overhead.
People know it has lots of overhead..
that's not the point of it
limber knotBOT
There isn't usually a particular problem with DSL, however though its best to not create one if one exists to do the job lol
potent warren
Well, someone made it...
and it's used by lots of people ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
some are starting..
some like the gist of having it be instantly reloading
Some just like fast prototying ๐คทโโ๏ธ
and what do you want to analyze? inb4 Skript
Yes, I'm analysing Skript code... and what? It's as much of a programming language as everything else (provided it has some overhead)
crystal otter
skript
potent warren
How's it a problem 
crystal otter
it's like writing a rendering engine in batch
potent warren
ermmm wat?
crystal otter
you can do it but you will kill yourself before you get it done
crystal otter
let me write a program to analyze your inquiry
using minecraft command blocks
which is also a programming language if you look at it from just the right direction and the stars are aligned properly
potent warren
So, you're comparing a proper DSL with command blocks ๐ค
Minecraft has "functions" now
void void
pulsar wigeon
yes , because storing data in scoreboard commands isnt cancer
potent warren
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fleet osprey
I think you are just trying to defend Skript because you don't know Java
potent warren
You gotta be kidding me lmao
fleet osprey
If you learned Java you would never use Skript ever again
potent warren
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Are you being serious?
I know Java.
I also know C#..
I also know C
๐ค
fleet osprey
wait why the fuck are you using Skript
fleet osprey
autism???
fleet osprey
It's SKRIPT
potent warren
And?
heady spear
So you have no reason for disliking it?
potent warren
It's a valid programming language.
vestal jasper
๐ฟ
fleet osprey
it's limited to only minecraft
heady spear
You've just jumped on a hate bandwagon and now you've realised that you have no valid points?
potent warren
It's a FUCKING DSL
heady spear
If he's only using it in Minecraft, then why would that be a problem?
potent warren
Domain Specific Language
A domain-specific language (DSL) is a computer language specialized to a particular application domain. This is in contrast to a general-purpose language (GPL), which is broadly applicable across domains.
fleet osprey
it's just not as customizable as Java I would say, you can do way less with skript
potent warren
suuuuuure.
just you wait until people are invoking Java from within Skript
oh wait..
some already are..
vestal jasper
Why not just use java at that point tbh
fleet osprey
invoking Java from skript XD
potent warren
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
it works.
I don't even use Skript btw... I'm trying to make a linter for Skript.
vestal jasper
My main problem with skript are the people who use it on the spigot site. Every single skript I've found on there is an abomination and crime against humanity.
potent warren
Well, that's because people that post them on there are somewhat.... disabled dumb
fleet osprey
What if you needed to use a rest api via a website for a plugin, you would be forced to invoke Java from skript
potent warren
well, you wouldn't..
vestal jasper
Most resources on spigot are retarded tbh
potent warren
There's probably an addon for that.
There are probably lots of servers with small additions/tiny details that were made with Skript and nobody batted an eye..
It's nothing of another world ps: this isn't my code at all https://i.imgur.com/TklPFwi.png
by the way, that Java interop feature is added by an external addon for Skript (aka another plugin that extends Skript)
fleet osprey
I personally want to use a programming language I can use outside of just minecraft
it's limiting
limber knotBOT
skript is like LUA, it isn't exactly supposed to replace the core language but in some areas it can whether its more difficult or simpler
potent warren
oof
fleet osprey
and I'm saying I don't like domain specific languages, because you can't use it outside of minecraft
potent warren
well, that's on you.
limber knotBOT
you more then likely have used one before without realizing it
fleet osprey
but that's not what makes it bad I would say
potent warren
The whole point of it is to be specific to Minecraft servers.
whooops. SQL is a DSL...
upper flicker
Tbh I think the big reason skript specifically gets so much hate is because people use it inappropriately and then wonder why itโs so slow
That being said, it sure is fun to watch people argue so much about it
potent warren
WHOOOOOPS. YAML can be considered one too.
fleet osprey
SQL can be used out of just minecraft
potent warren
but it's a query language made to query databases..
fleet osprey
exactly
potent warren
but it's a query language made to query databases..
so, therefore it is a DSL, making you hate it.
potent warren
Have you ever touched anything HTML? OH WELL; now you hate it too
fleet osprey
Skript is limited to just minecraft kek
limber knotBOT
as I said, more then likely you have used a DSL before just never realized it was one
potent warren
Skript is limited to just minecraft kek
And SQL is limited to relational databases.. what's your point? kek
limber knotBOT
Skript was never designed to be used outside of minecraft
potent warren
Ever used Gradle?
limber knotBOT
so not sure what your point is on that
what else would you want to use skript for?
vestal jasper
his braincell count is limited to the number of fingers he can hold up kek
fleet osprey
At least I don't use skript
potent warren
Neither do I.
vestal jasper
I dont either
fleet osprey
sure
potent warren
tell me AoElite, ever used Gradle?
limber knotBOT
I have used it just to check it out, never hate something before you try it ;)
I doubt AoElite has ever used it
vestal jasper
I was literally arguing against it earlier I just sided with the person who was making valid points 
fleet osprey
yes, but it's used for programming languages, I understand your point
potent warren
The fault is also on the tooling. There's not much great tooling for Skript
oh, if you've used Gradle... YOU DUN GOOFED. Time to move to Maven I guess.
fleet osprey
Nah
limber knotBOT
But, I have yet to hear any valid points about why skript is bad or terrible or shouldn't be used at all other then your argument it can't be used outside of minecraft yet it was never designed to be used outside of minecraft
potent warren
vestal jasper
Wait
fleet osprey
It's limited to singular game, you can't use Skript on anything else
vestal jasper
Is SED actually considered a dsl
potent warren
It's limited to singular game, you can't use Skript on anything else
That's literally the point of it.
Being used inside Minecraft.
It's not made to be used elsewhere
fleet osprey
And I'm saying that's why I don't like it
vestal jasper
Bukkit api bad it's mc only
limber knotBOT
Thats like saying command blocks can't be used outside of MC so don't use them in MC
vestal jasper
Well bukkit api is bad but for other reasons
potent warren
AoElite, well, then that means you also don't like HTML; Groovy; SQL, etc
fleet osprey
nah, I'm specifically talking about something limited to a game
potent warren
well, that's not a valid point
limber knotBOT
many games have DSL's specifically for them and nothing else
potent warren
^^
fleet osprey
and I'm not a fan
limber knotBOT
Well its obvious on that notion because the only argument is it being a DSL
fleet osprey
exactly, because Java is faster and can do more
potent warren
Well, that's also not a valid argument
It wasn't made to replace Java or to be faster than it.
limber knotBOT
not everyone wants to learn java but yet still wants to be able to do some customizable things
potent warren
Well, people look at this and don't see a programming language.. https://i.imgur.com/Xr1FSCj.png
Maybe if we were to turn on the lights, you'd be able to see it better...
(ps: not my code)
whoops that's an outdated version of the grammar
sec, let me run vscode ;-;
limber knotBOT
technically you could consider java a DSL since it needs a JVM to run and doesn't run on its own.
potent warren
O O F
fleet osprey
Java is faster, has more libraries, can access lower level data like environment variables. Skript is specifically for minecraft it can access that shit and I get it's not supposed to and that's exactly what I don't like about it. It's limited to just minecraft, it can't do everything a java plugin could do.
limber knotBOT
You would be surprised what you could do with skript
potent warren
^^
limber knotBOT
just fyi, someone created an entire Minecraft implementation using nothing but PHP
potent warren
o o f
limber knotBOT
but PHP was never designed for that
potent warren
Well, then I can do this:
Java is faster, has more libraries, can access lower level data like environment variables.
Well, C# is faster, can interop with FUCKING native code, you can access variables with pointers if you're feeling edgy.
fleet osprey
PHP isn't limited to a singular game tho, so I'm not that surprised
I think C is actually faster kek
potent warren
well, I can compile C# to native code.
Well, ya know..
C# can also run everywhere.
limber knotBOT
I really don't know any other games made with PHP o.O
fleet osprey
the point is php can be used for anything
potent warren
It runs on your android phone.. it runs on your PC.. it runs on your Mac.. it runs on your iPhone.. it runs on your linux server... it runs on your playstation.. on your wii... on your car (if you're feeling edgy).. on your microprocessor... etc..
limber knotBOT
that is only fairly recent due to the addition of a CLI
minor tapir
limber knotBOT
for a long while php didn't have a CLI
fleet osprey
Isn't C# a scripting language
limber knotBOT
no
potent warren
no
fleet osprey
I might be mistaken
limber knotBOT
C# is Microsofts rendition of Java
fleet osprey
ight so C# is a thing and?
potent warren
And what?
fleet osprey
Idk you were the one who brought it up
potent warren
I was using it as an example to refute your argument about java.
fleet osprey
but Java and C# can be used anywhere
limber knotBOT
Java is faster if you have a Java OS ;)
fleet osprey
Skript is limited to just minecraft
limber knotBOT
Did you want to use it everywhere else?
you can easily make that happen by customizing it since last I recalled its open source
fleet osprey
that's the thing I want to use a language I can use everywhere else
woven otter
guys are you stuck in a loop
potent warren
Well, why even use Skript if you have python?
woven otter
I'll throw this in: break;
fleet osprey
at least python can be used for anything (also I don't like python)
limber knotBOT
So AoElite's whole premise in not liking skript or hating it is because they prefer GPL's but refuses to acknowledge DSL's use
fleet osprey
I don't have a problem with DSL's specifically dingus
heady spear
just use jython
potent warren
J#
woven otter
city
heady spear
im eating taco ๐ฎ
fleet osprey
I'm talking about game specific languages, like command blocks & skript
woven otter
I like you more now that you've said some things
potent warren
well, it's all a DSL
vestal jasper
Also java has native interop via JNI btw
limber knotBOT
its very expensive to use JNI
woven otter
isn't it less cancerous since j13
limber knotBOT
XD
limber knotBOT
yes it is, just have to be careful with what you use it for lol
woven otter
There were some projects related to JNI that I think were meant to be released with j13
potent warren
By the way, have fun trying to export Java methods to be used by native libs...
oh wait
heady spear
graal ๐
potent warren
Well, Graal is extra
and shhhhh
AoElite, you gotta understand that the only change between those languages is the Domain part of them..
heady spear
I spent 5 hours coming up with a dumb algorithm only to find that some moron at stackoverflow had come up with the exact same solution
potent warren
Lel
heady spear
so now I can't use it in my project, because my professor will accuse me of plagiarism
fleet osprey
I said I don't have a problem with DSL's did you not see what I said
potent warren
Then what exactly is the problem?
vestal jasper
Mfw ๐ฟ
limber knotBOT
its because it can only be used in MC
potent warren
Just try Skript bruh.
fleet osprey
It's when the language is specific to a single game, like command blocks or skript
potent warren
I also hated Kotlin and look at me now ;-;
limber knotBOT
that is what makes it a DSL
woven otter
city did you miss my awesome message directed at you
heady spear
Skript is only limited to a specific game because it has only been implemented for Minecraft
limber knotBOT
Guess you never messed with UnrealScript
limber knotBOT
and once it is, then it becomes a GPL :D
woven otter
I tried to pick u up
fleet osprey
That's what I'm saying @heady spear, it's limited to JUST minecraft. It can't do everything Java can do
heady spear
But... it can?
woven otter
Imagine being the one reading and grading that paper
potent warren
Well, that's the point of it.
limber knotBOT
it can
woven otter
wow you guys are still going in circles lol
potent warren
IT'S supposed to be JUST for Minecraft
heady spear
It's supposed to, but it's not limited to.
fleet osprey
and that's why I don't like it....
potent warren
@woven otter pls. It's squares. There's no circles in Minecraft
heady spear
If you use the java interop libraries then you can use it for whatever the fuck you want
fleet osprey
It's just for minecraft
woven otter
AoElite is still making the same argument and everyone else is repeating the same exact thing
crude drum
heady spear
It's a non-argument
woven otter
like for the past 30 mins or so
fleet osprey
we're all repeating the same thing
heady spear
the entire "skript is just made for minecraft [...]" deal is a non-starter, so no valid points have been made thus far
potent warren
^^^^^
fleet osprey
holy shit how the fuck don't you get what I'm saying, I don't like Skript because it's JUST for minecraft
how's that so hard to understand
limber knotBOT
And Skripts entire point btw to your initial statement of not knowing java, is that is exactly who its for. People who don't know java, don't need to learn java or don't want to learn java but yet still be able to customize some aspects of the game.
unreal quarry
Skript is alright if you just need to do little quick things. But some of these skripts I've seen are too large and do too much
limber knotBOT
lol
unreal quarry
I think I've even seen a WorldEdit skript floating around. It's insane
potent warren
well, Skript ain't meant for that though
fleet osprey
yes
heady spear
Skript is incredibly useful
limber knotBOT
maybe skript should release its own implementation to speed up them skripts ;)
heady spear
But LUA WorldEdit is the best
golden gust
I was going to joke about watching this place turn into cancer
I kinda almost forgot that this place is literal cancer
heady spear
โค๏ธ https://github.com/cuberite/WorldEdit โค๏ธ