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austere ivy
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what

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that's not nice

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Love is bad, love and goat?

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what

heady spear
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basically love is evil, you may fall in love with a goat

austere ivy
heady spear
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I'm kinda considering getting a tattoo of that 😛

austere ivy
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I've never heard that expression before

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might just be a regional thing though

cosmic raft
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my fortune cookie

pulsar wigeon
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what talents

austere ivy
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oh my gosh

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) This kid is nuts : OuchMyBalls - 5 comments, 85 points - humans_are_not_real, 8h ago

cosmic raft
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the ones you wish you had

austere ivy
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this might be the worst one I've seen in a while

heady spear
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Brian, that was the translation from Russian to Spanish

upper flicker
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wiz doesn’t wish for talents

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Just for peace and quiet

pulsar wigeon
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indeed

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i would like to be a potato and roll around mindlessly

heady spear
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because there was a community translation. I love the Russian proverb

cosmic raft
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perhaps a mental hospital then

austere ivy
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Ooh okay

pulsar wigeon
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my talents have been my demise

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imagine if i was talentless, i wouldn't have to deal with people pinging me all day

heady spear
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goat basically means a bad person

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I mean

austere ivy
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Ah okay.

heady spear
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leaf is an actual goat

austere ivy
heady spear
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I only like it when leaf gets hurt

austere ivy
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my daily cup of seeing people die inside and out ☕

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well not literally die

cosmic raft
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rip r/watchpeopledie

austere ivy
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that place was horrible but it was also informative about the fact that this world is a very sad and gruesome place

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that shit was banned months ago

heady spear
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r/ihavereddit

austere ivy
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I'M POSTING YOU ON IHAVEIHAVEREDDIT

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you've done it now city

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tf is that subreddit

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looks like cancer

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smells like cancer

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has cancer

austere ivy
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Just don't go to ihaveihaveihavereddit

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is cancer

austere ivy
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actually I'm not going to do post it, I can't do it to you like that city

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is there some war between reddit and instagram

heady spear
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barty calling someone a nerd

austere ivy
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yes.

heady spear
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imagine

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$10 reddit steals from instagram and instagram steals from reddit

heady spear
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no u

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and it's some retarded argument

heady spear
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what?

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ur retarded

austere ivy
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You keep your $10 because that's exactly how it is.

heady spear
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leaf robbed my grandma

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he stole her purse

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he also sent rude DMs to my girlfriend

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reddit seems like the cancer place where they would think that nobody steals and gets them upvotes and gold from it

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you're gay

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you have no girlfriend

heady spear
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I am most certaintly not

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sturdy fulcrum
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Come blow my leaves

heady spear
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Stop calling people gay as a slur, it's not funny

austere ivy
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Leaf who asked for you to bring your bad juju here?

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Clip if you have a leafblower I'll do it, but I'm not raking it.

heady spear
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You're a homophobe bro, it's not cool. Not in 2019. Get over yourself.

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It was stated as fact

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and is fact

heady spear
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Leaf that shit ain't cool, bro

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Gay people suffer daily because of bigots like you

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ur girlfriend suffers from u being gay

austere ivy
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This is where I'll take my leave, I'm going to go eat.. toast and stuff.

heady spear
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bro find some other group to hate on

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like mexicans

cosmic raft
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dance with me

austere ivy
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I'll agree with City

sturdy fulcrum
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Sup

austere ivy
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And everyone in Colombia can agree with City

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We all dislike mexicans

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minecraft youtubers it is then

heady spear
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I have a CD signed by Alexander lol

cosmic raft
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you do?

heady spear
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he was in SödertÀlje after he won eurovision

cosmic raft
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:(

austere ivy
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I'll sign your CD city

cosmic raft
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jealous

austere ivy
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kash I'll sign your cd :D

heady spear
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I don't want your nasty ass fingers to touch my CD, Brian.

cosmic raft
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got a picture, city?

austere ivy
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I'm going to bet I'm one of the cleanest persons you know

heady spear
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I'll see if I can find the CD somewhere

cosmic raft
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\o/

austere ivy
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if anything I don't want to touch the cd in which your fingers have touched, all that cheeto dust and whatnot

sturdy fulcrum
cosmic raft
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wtf is that

austere ivy
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A leafblower

sturdy fulcrum
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It ain’t a rake

austere ivy
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Clip you live next to me though right?

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oh my gosh okay kash what's that one peepo emote where the peepo has a monocole and it's like

heady spear
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I found a box full of judo medals

austere ivy
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they're investigating something

sturdy fulcrum
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I’m actually about to do my leaves

heady spear
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almost the same thing

austere ivy
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because I've needed to use that like 3 times today

sturdy fulcrum
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Ez with the leaf blower

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Makes my neighbors jealous

heady spear
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yeah no I've no idea where it's at, it's probably at my sisters place

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didn't really prioritize my alexander ryback CD when moving to uni

sturdy fulcrum
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Sunday morning I did my yard and next thing I know I get home from the grocery store and they are all mowing and raking lmao

austere ivy
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clip sometime I'd like to borrow your leafblower, ours broke :(

sturdy fulcrum
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Except my lazy neighbor next door

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I always draw a line

cosmic raft
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rip

austere ivy
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Now I gotta rake leaves with.. a rake

heady spear
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I am the best leafblower around

austere ivy
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oh yeah can you put it in a pile to jump in?

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didn't think so

sturdy fulcrum
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Lol here my wife posted on Facebook about it

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😂😂

austere ivy
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Lol.

heady spear
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why blow leaves when you can blow the neighbour?

austere ivy
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alRIGHT CITY

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BEGONE

cosmic raft
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no don't begone

heady spear
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I am not a thot

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you can't dismiss me like that

cosmic raft
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city is love, city is life

heady spear
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I am a hatred and death

sturdy fulcrum
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Leaf blower is life

austere ivy
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Clip how much was that leaf blower?

sturdy fulcrum
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Less than 200 and does the job just fine

heady spear
cosmic raft
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heh

sturdy fulcrum
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I think it was like 175

austere ivy
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That's not too bad.

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I'd rather get a new pressurewasher though.

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Ours broke too (what a coincidence) all the seals are busted and it's output is less than the garden hose.

heady spear
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aren't you like 5

sturdy fulcrum
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It’s not huge but it works for me just fine

cosmic raft
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I'm more wondering why the age/location is in the name

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hmmm

heady spear
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why do you need a leafblower

sturdy fulcrum
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He wants to make chores easier

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Why else

heady spear
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It's not the age, it's the exam session 😛

austere ivy
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No I'm the one who handles the outside ._.

heady spear
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They're sitting IB exams in May 2019

cosmic raft
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ah

heady spear
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Also I'm fairly certain she's a girl

sturdy fulcrum
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I need a pressure washer too

heady spear
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not a 19 year old male

sturdy fulcrum
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Lmk a good one

cosmic raft
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you never know these days

austere ivy
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I guess raking the leaves aren't too bad but there's a big giant tree in our neighbor's yard and those trees shed a BUUNCH of tiny leaves.

heady spear
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I'm M18 and I sure the hell hope I'm not 18 again

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being able to buy alcohol is a freedom I don't want taken away

austere ivy
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I was thinking either electric or gas but it seems like gas pressure washers are more powerful and they don't have to be plugged in.

cosmic raft
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how old are you again city

sturdy fulcrum
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Look how many leaves I still have to blow

heady spear
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20, basically a grandpa

sturdy fulcrum
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I gotta go gas

cosmic raft
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I see

austere ivy
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That's a pretty tree.

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It's cute, haha.

sturdy fulcrum
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That’s a lot of leaves

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Here’s my pile from yesterday and I just did it Sunday

austere ivy
heady spear
austere ivy
sturdy fulcrum
austere ivy
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now that’s a lotta leaves

heady spear
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staff members like this makes us look hella mature

cosmic raft
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A+ name

sturdy fulcrum
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Leaf blower is love lol

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Wife is like if you do the yard I’ll do the dishes and laundry

heady spear
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We have snow here already

sturdy fulcrum
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Ok

austere ivy
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Clip the leaf blower doesn’t make you strong though

heady spear
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so like, if you can't see the leaves they're clearly not a problem

sturdy fulcrum
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Idgaf

austere ivy
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I had a bit of snowfall and then it all melted and now it’s sunny, good old Michigan

sturdy fulcrum
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I throw on ear buds and open Spotify

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And walk around

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Cardio

heady spear
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I went to the grocery store to buy crisps today

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that was my cardio

austere ivy
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oh gosh, city in public????

sturdy fulcrum
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Work smarter not harder

heady spear
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You can't walk outside without freezing your nuts off so my name is now Alexandra.

woven otter
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when is that show coming out made by city and stef

austere ivy
heady spear
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We need a really cute protagonist

sturdy fulcrum
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@woven otter so you like gay porn

heady spear
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If the lead ain't hot then people will get bored after 10 minutes

sturdy fulcrum
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😂😂

heady spear
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Also I would love to direct a hacking themed porno

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Oh no there's a breach in my pants, someone has entered the mainframe

cosmic raft
heady spear
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He put his signature all over my back

cosmic raft
sturdy fulcrum
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Anything walking could hack into that.... hide your animals

merry talon
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something something brute force

heady spear
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^good one

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blow my dick like snowden blew that whistle

sturdy fulcrum
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Was gonna say hide your dogs but I know there are furries in here

quasi valley
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hide them too, please

cosmic raft
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I love this channel

heady spear
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who the fuck is going around Sweden cutting horses

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like how bored do you have to be to grab a knife and go cut a horse

quasi valley
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maybe there were sweets inside?

sturdy fulcrum
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Someone hungry

woven otter
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@sturdy fulcrum do you

sturdy fulcrum
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Do I what

quasi valley
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yes

woven otter
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do you like gay porn

sturdy fulcrum
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Only if you are the Star

woven otter
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that's pretty gay

quasi valley
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clip has a duck fetish confirmed

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also, duck will never be a star, not even as a porn star

woven otter
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wow

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that's very duckist

heady spear
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mtm you can star in my porno if you'd like

pulsar wigeon
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🗡 🩆

sturdy fulcrum
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Im married and have 2 children but she doesn’t know my fetishes yet

woven otter
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that's interesting

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i guess they're too bizarre

sturdy fulcrum
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Glad it gives you a rise

woven otter
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you should give me a raise

pulsar wigeon
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porn stars don't really make that much

sturdy fulcrum
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You should be paying me

woven otter
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you should

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I support PlaceholderAPI so it should be enough as a payment

heady spear
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ew

woven otter
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City when will you release FastAsyncPlaceholdersSquared

sturdy fulcrum
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Revoke your support and send $5 towards my next bottle of alcohol

heady spear
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I have a Christian PAPI fork already

pulsar wigeon
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FAPS?

cosmic raft
woven otter
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yes

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FAPS

heady spear
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It was released to combat the evil that was the daddy alias

pulsar wigeon
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duck has a placeholder fetish confirmed

woven otter
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clip that sounds like a scam

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imagine supporting alcoholism

quasi valley
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you sound like a scam

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uncooked chicken

woven otter
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you do

sturdy fulcrum
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Faps don’t even make sense unless you fap

pulsar wigeon
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Forge Annual Parley?

heady spear
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fapping is very gay

woven otter
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wiz has a forge fetish confirmed

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disgusting

heady spear
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imagine stroking a penis like wtf

sturdy fulcrum
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Lol

pulsar wigeon
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imagine needing to touch your dick to fap

quasi valley
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wiz does it with pure willpower

woven otter
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imagine needing to fap

quasi valley
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imagine being a duck

woven otter
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who did that

heady spear
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kash has a tendency to rename people

woven otter
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💅

heady spear
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that's how I became a weeb

woven otter
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what is that

cosmic raft
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duck is getting his nails did

pulsar wigeon
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ducks dont have nails

heady spear
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that's cute, I love painted nails

woven otter
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honestly looked like a weird hotdog at first glance

pulsar wigeon
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they do have corkscrew dicks though

woven otter
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wiz you are disgusting

heady spear
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Some ducks also have two separate entrances to their vaginas

quasi valley
heady spear
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so they can prevent pregnancies when raped

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because ducks are notorious rapists

quasi valley
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why do you even know that

pulsar wigeon
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ducks are also known to engage in homosexual necrophilia

heady spear
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I want to be safe

quasi valley
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when raping ducks?

sturdy fulcrum
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Cmon guys

heady spear
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n...no

quasi valley
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AH GOTCHA

woven otter
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that's just wrong

heady spear
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I am not a duck rapist.

woven otter
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are you therapist

quasi valley
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you are wrong, fingernails

heady spear
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Nor am I a child diddling priest with a dinosaur fetish

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We've established I'm a good (maybe) guy

woven otter
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ur never good

cosmic raft
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you're a great guy

heady spear
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and you're a guy!

sturdy fulcrum
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This community is fucked up

cosmic raft
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I am

woven otter
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clip you're wrong

sturdy fulcrum
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Not paper

heady spear
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clip doesn't like that we exposed the duck rape stuff

sturdy fulcrum
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But Minecraft in general

heady spear
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they never like being exposed

sturdy fulcrum
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Stay away from your parents bedroom doors after bedtime

cosmic raft
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lol

heady spear
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are they playing minecraft in there??

sturdy fulcrum
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Daddy is playing survival

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Mom is playing creative but still trying to reach to objective

heady spear
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If my parents had sex they wouldn't have time to fight as much

sturdy fulcrum
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Just tell them to stfu

heady spear
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They don't talk anymore, it's mostly my mom trying to kill my dad and my dad trying to run away. Surprisingly quiet activities

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murder and escape, that is

sturdy fulcrum
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Tell them to get a board game to claim dominance

woven otter
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every community that involves gaming and internet is usually bad clip

heady spear
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my community is the best

wide chasm
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Is it empty?

woven otter
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ofc you would say that

sturdy fulcrum
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Sometimes I feel like a therapist because my community only wants help

austere ivy
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Who here likes bdubs?

heady spear
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ew you watch minecraft wtf

sturdy fulcrum
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B dubs is garbage

heady spear
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minecraft is for 3 year olds

wide chasm
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I haven't watched bdubs, should I?

sturdy fulcrum
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I eat real wings

austere ivy
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Buffalo Wild Wings, it’s a restaurant.

sturdy fulcrum
austere ivy
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Also my community is the best community, better than barty’s no doubt

sturdy fulcrum
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Those are real wings

heady spear
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my community is mtm approved

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he also can't take back his approval

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I'll just forge it if he does

austere ivy
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Chip when can I come over to try some?

woven otter
sturdy fulcrum
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When you grow some balls

woven otter
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The name is outrageous

austere ivy
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What name?

woven otter
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who would name anything IntellectualSites

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oh

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why is everyone kashike

woven otter
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who would name anything he..

pulsar wigeon
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why are you not kashike

austere ivy
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everyone’s kashike but you, leaf

heady spear
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because kashike is bae and everyone wants to be him

woven otter
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wdym

heady spear
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isn't that obvious?

austere ivy
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you’re either kashike or you’re lead

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laa era d

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Fkvb

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leaf

woven otter
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are you ok

heady spear
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r/ihadastroke

austere ivy
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typing on a phone is hard ok?

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r/ihavereddit

heady spear
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leaf missed a prime opportunity to call him a retard

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and all he could think of was a dumb reaction

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leaf fucking sucks

austere ivy
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Mhm

warped spear
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what would be required to make mc run at 120 ticks

austere ivy
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Modifications to mc.

wide chasm
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A very good host

warped spear
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the way a lot of shooters do for example

austere ivy
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And a bit of fairy dust

woven otter
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city u suck too

heady spear
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If you remove a whole bunch of expensive logic and stop limiting the tickrate then uh, possible

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so like

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modifications to mc

wide chasm
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Remove everything basically

pulsar wigeon
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changing tickrate is like one line of code tbh

warped spear
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I wish minecraft was not a mess internally

heady spear
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You need to be able to sustain the 120tps tho

pulsar wigeon
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getting things to work....normally...at that tickrate is an entirely different question

heady spear
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just changing the limit isn't going to magically bring it up

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most servers can barely keep 20

pulsar wigeon
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even if you have the hardware for the performance requirements

austere ivy
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Wish granted, Minecraft no longer exists as the entirety of Minecraft is a mess

pulsar wigeon
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everything will go 6x too fast

warped spear
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what about variable game speed

pulsar wigeon
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furnace items will smelt in 12% of the time, mobs move 500% faster, etc

warped spear
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yikes

pulsar wigeon
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tbh

heady spear
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You can obviously change that too

pulsar wigeon
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there is no gain from increasing tickrate really

heady spear
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i.e, make the mobs slower

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decrease furnace melting speeds

warped spear
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pvp servers would bnefit

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benefit*

pulsar wigeon
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not really

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50ms is average-good ping already

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things aren't really getting delayed by tickrate

heady spear
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also @woven otter stop being so fucking rude like wtf is your problem like wtf dude why the hell are you so mean like wtf?

pulsar wigeon
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unless you're playing LAN or something

placid thicket
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pvp servers always benefit from stupid and meaningless changes

pulsar wigeon
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then i can see the benefits of 5ms tickrate

woven otter
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@heady spear oh ur the one talking now

warped spear
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I wish the underlying game was not shit

heady spear
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Yes clearly

pulsar wigeon
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go play a different game then

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dumbass

heady spear
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are you dumb or something?

woven otter
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are you dum

heady spear
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no r u

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minecraft pvp lul

warped spear
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I mean from a coding perspective

woven otter
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no u r

warped spear
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mc is incredible fun

heady spear
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no u r

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ur all retarded

warped spear
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and my most played game by far

woven otter
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ur retarded leaf

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ur retarded

woven otter
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ur

heady spear
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@static badge stop being so fucking rude like wtf is your problem like wtf dude why the hell are you so mean like wtf?

warped spear
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I just wish the underlying code was not retarded

pulsar wigeon
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ur retarded

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City you're actually retarded

heady spear
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I have a piece of paper that says I'm not

placid thicket
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Minecraft coding isn't even THAT bad, the issue is 10 years of technical debt players and 2b2t wont let them fix

wide chasm
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2b2t?

placid thicket
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something something multithread

woven otter
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I doubt that paper is valid

warped spear
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also java is just inherently slow

heady spear
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it is!!!

warped spear
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compared to C++ o Rust

wide chasm
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Yes, bad Java, bad!

heady spear
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What makes you say that, Phantom?

quasi valley
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that's just a dumb utterance

pulsar wigeon
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java is just inherently slow

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annnd there we go

heady spear
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What about Java is inherently slow?

pulsar wigeon
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proof he's retarded

austere ivy
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uhh guys I heard java is JIT and not uhh compiled it must be slow

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if minecraft was just made in C++ it would be fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄÂĄ

placid thicket
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java CAN be fast. just as you CAN make a very slow C++ game

wide chasm
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I only program in Assembly

austere ivy
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nope, Minecraft is just a mess mess inside

heady spear
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assembly is for noobs

warped spear
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if minecraft was written in C++ correctly it would be fast

pulsar wigeon
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chris sawyer wrote roller coaster tycoon in assembly

wide chasm
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You're a noob

austere ivy
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they started throwing performance out the window back in 1.3

quasi valley
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postfix is for pros

austere ivy
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and SUPER throwing it out at 1.8

wide chasm
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RCT ❀

heady spear
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you should just hardcode your shit to rom

quasi valley
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phantom, wow

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just wow

placid thicket
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if minecraft was written in Java properly it would be fast, whats your point?

pulsar wigeon
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the highest level code he wrote was some C bindings for the graphics lib iirc (dx?)

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man i wonder if i still have my RCT disk

wide chasm
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I do actually

pulsar wigeon
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i sure don't have a cd/dvd drive anymore LUL

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maybe in a box in my basement...

wide chasm
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I should've both RCT and RCT2.

warped spear
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no I am complaining about the general messy internals of minecraft and the lack of effort to optimize it by the actual devs who are owned by microsoft

heady spear
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I have RCT2, I don't think I ever owned the original

placid thicket
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we talking Roller Coaster Tycoon?

austere ivy
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I personally code in fl20

heady spear
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You just said that jave is inherently slow

quasi valley
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you literally just said something else

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yes

wide chasm
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RCT2 is pretty much a pure upgrade from RCT imo

heady spear
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now you're backtracking and saying that minecraft is slow because of microsoft?

pulsar wigeon
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imagine if minecraft was professionally developed software and not some dude's hobby project 9 years ago

quasi valley
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don't dum talk your way out

pulsar wigeon
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it would never have gotten so big

warped spear
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Java is slow compared C++ even when done properly

placid thicket
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they are both available on steam ATM

austere ivy
#

yeah Minecraft was a hobby project

pulsar wigeon
#

phantom

quasi valley
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you didnt say that

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lol

pulsar wigeon
#

you're fucking retarded

#

shut up

woven otter
#

wow

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rude

quasi valley
#

berry rude

placid thicket
warped spear
#

here these are optimized benchmarks

wide chasm
#

Sure, C++ could improve it, but the main bottleneck isn't Java here

quasi valley
#

yeah I can google too

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and pick the very first result

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and seem like I actually know something

austere ivy
placid thicket
#

poor coding practice and 10yo hardware support is why we are in this situation

heady spear
#

You do realize you're comparing rampup speeds, right?

warped spear
#

actually I keep this one save for when I need to argue this point

#

but I can find another one

quasi valley
#

yeah right

#

of course you do

warped spear
#

I do

heady spear
#

use graal with aot and you're going to minimize the speed needed to launch the JVM, and whoopdifuckingdo, there you go

static badge
#

None of those account for how java needs some time to warm up

woven otter
#

fucking retards

quasi valley
#

wow duck insulting people

static badge
#

JIT is one, literally starting the vm

austere ivy
#

Duck chill.

warped spear
#

notice the bookmark

placid thicket
#

java code itself is fast, the JVM just takes a bit of time to get going

quasi valley
#

just read what spotted and city wrote

austere ivy
#

Are you trying to prove yourself to us that you.. bookmarked it?

#

congratulations I guess

#

really accomplished

sturdy fulcrum
#

Stop comparing java to c

warped spear
#

you said I picke the first thing off google

placid thicket
#

dont bring C into this, this is java vs C++

warped spear
#

I said I save the page for when I argued this point

quasi valley
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because it is literally the first thing that came up when I googled "java vs c++ performance"

#

well, the second

austere ivy
#

C++ is just C version 2

#

Can't people get their heads around this? Smh my head.

wide chasm
#

C++ as a general purpose language is pretty meh imo

#

Probably do it in C at that point

austere ivy
#

I mean it's right there, C == 1, C++ == 2

#

WAIT

#

++C == 2

quasi valley
wide chasm
#

Actually, you already incremented C before, so now it'd be 3

warped spear
#

oh not there definitely reasons for using Java it just it slow as shit compared to C++ for a lot of tasks, games are one of them

placid thicket
#

there's also the part where C++ has horrible non-windows support

heady spear
#

Everytime I consider using C++ I always end up using C

austere ivy
#

Man I just made C version 3

wide chasm
#

Call it ++C++

austere ivy
#

I think the thing about Java I love is the syntax.

quasi valley
#

or C++++

austere ivy
#

Then they had to make the new switch statement

#

and use the arrow lambdas which is weird

wide chasm
#

Lambdas ❀

warped spear
#

I have been tryna learn rust recently

quasi valley
#

lambdas are bae

wide chasm
#

Also new switch is pretty good

warped spear
#

its been fun

heady spear
#

switch expressions are awesome

austere ivy
heady spear
#

and the lambda syntax is sane compared to some other languages

woven otter
#

why C city

#

tell me

placid thicket
#

you guys wanna help me get minecraft working in brainfuck? sounds far more efficient

austere ivy
#

Yeah so why are they using the arrow lambda syntax in the new switch statement?

heady spear
#

because C++ is a bloody fucking mess

austere ivy
#

Someone wrote a brainfrik interpreter in brainfrik

limber knotBOT
#

also hard as hell to learn

woven otter
#

I wanted normal answer not your angst u bloody mess

heady spear
#

that's my honest answer

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there are a billion ways to do something in C++ out of which 0 are correct

austere ivy
#

Nice

wide chasm
#

I feel that

warped spear
#

I hate the fact I can't manage resources as directly with java

#

that my biggest gripe with it

heady spear
#

What resources can't you manage directly?

warped spear
#

as directly

placid thicket
#

everyone just code in Binary, problem solved. we no need these fancy languages

heady spear
#

There's direct memeory access, there are memory mapped files and you can do whatever the fuck you want when it comes to data

woven otter
#

just use theUnsafe if you want to go that way

austere ivy
#

Yeah that's the thing, programming languages are just making our lives easier. Choose whatever fits your project.

heady spear
#

The only difference is that you're in a VM

#

Everything you can access in C++ you can access in Java.

austere ivy
#

uh can you access structs in java?

#

didn't. think. so. checkmate c++ers

woven otter
#

well you have JNI too

austere ivy
#

wait

#

checkmate javaers

warped spear
#

JNI so I can plug C++ into my java code

woven otter
#

yes

heady spear
#

JNI so you can interact with native binaries. Yes.

warped spear
#

why not just do pure C++

woven otter
#

yes

heady spear
#

you must be trolling, right?

#

why use C++ when you use assembly?

austere ivy
#

uhh

warped spear
#

assembly is fun

heady spear
#

you're just using C++ to perform system calls

austere ivy
heady spear
#

seems like a lot of dumb overhead to me

placid thicket
#

at the end of the day though, what does it matter? unless someone feels like writing a java>C++ wrapper that will allow everyone to switch to C++ the argument is moot. minecraft is in Java and will stay in Java. don't like it? always bedrock...

fallen jungle
#

System calls slow, must avoid đŸ˜€

warped spear
#

tbh if bedrock wasn't feature starved I would switch

fallen jungle
#

But for real. Properly written Java is more than fast enough for vast majority of things.

austere ivy
#

If bedrock was on mac, and had mods, and wasn't ugly, I'd switch

heady spear
#

You can just use cuberite if you want your C++

#

I will warn you though, they use an insane amount of line breaks in their source code

warped spear
#

is that still updated?

placid thicket
#

bedrock can be forced to run on mac

wide chasm
#

Cuberite's code style guidelines are messed up

heady spear
#

they're way behind but it has not been abandoned

austere ivy
#

At least it's not md_5 code.

fallen jungle
#

1.12.2 last supported version

austere ivy
#

I like md_5 he seems like a nice guy but I DON'T LIKE THAT CODING SYNTAX.

heady spear
#

this is worse, brian. Way worse.

fallen jungle
#

I guess 1.13 kinda killed a lot of Minecraft rewrites

austere ivy
#

Is it? I'm going to go check.

heady spear
#

they're still working on 1.13

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kind of

placid thicket
#

and what is bedrock starved on? the only thing is nobody has written a forge yet for it

heady spear
#

I don't think it's a priority :p

austere ivy
#

Ah yeah, C++ "packages" are uppercased.

heady spear
#

namespaces

warped spear
#

I love paper, my complaint is the vanilla games java is a mess, but I mentioned java is slow compared to other options an got crucified lmao

heady spear
#

not packages 😛

wide chasm
#

The more I look at Bukkit's code, the more I don't want it.

austere ivy
#

I think my main thing I love about Java is the coding syntax. It's probably because I grew up learning Java but the syntax is one of my favorites.

warped spear
#

classic bukkit is pretty gross tbh

austere ivy
#

Everything's an object which means no weird << syntax like in C++, everything is either a field or a method.

placid thicket
#

because Java isn't slow. the VM startup is

heady spear
#

Because saying Java is slow compared to C++ is a non-argument

fallen jungle
#

Java is not slow

austere ivy
#

And also having a .cpp and an .h file for every single file is weird.

heady spear
#

"<<" being weird is because C++ supports operator overloading

austere ivy
wide chasm
#

I haven't gotten over the .h + .cpp thing either

austere ivy
#

Holy guacamole you weren't joking, City.

#

There's like 5 line breaks between each method.

heady spear
#

not because java is object oriented

austere ivy
#

COMBINED with md_5 style

warped spear
#

fully optimized java is slower than fully optimized C++

heady spear
#

header files are dope

austere ivy
#

It's like md_5 style but they like abusing line breaks.

pulsar wigeon
#

holy fuck is this guy still being retarded

fallen jungle
#

Sure, Phantom. But well-written Java is still fast enough.

austere ivy
#

I haven't really gotten into C++ much so I can't speak, you probably know more than I do.

pulsar wigeon
#

you know you can compile java to native code?

austere ivy
#

I just like Java's syntax.

fallen jungle
#

Minecraft is not really what I'd call 'well-written'

pulsar wigeon
#

that doesn't run on a vm?

fallen jungle
#

^

wide chasm
#

I'd rather have too many line breaks, then use too little, but at some point, you just gotta stop.

pulsar wigeon
#

you know c++ is also just a language

austere ivy
#

Stef, THIS is when to stop.

warped spear
#

badly written C++ is slow too

wide chasm
#

I have seen their code

heady spear
#

If you need 5 line breaks to make the code more readable then you should probably rethink the way you write code

warped spear
#

but the peak speed of optimized C++ exceeds java by a lot

pulsar wigeon
#

k this guy is just straight retarded

austere ivy
#

Yeah I just don't like C++ syntax.

heady spear
#

The speed of what? Busy waiting?

fallen jungle
#

C++ is a massive mess and nobody should like it

woven otter
#

just push electrons on a circuitboard at least then you can't argue about a programming language being slow

fallen jungle
#

But it has stuff that I miss in C

heady spear
#

I'd imagine branching would be faster running natively than in the JVM, so if the code does nothing then it'd probably be faster

austere ivy
#

The main thing is that I really can't imagine working on this code and not going insane.

wide chasm
#

Allman is the least of my concerns tbh

fallen jungle
#

That's what you call the wrong bracket style

heady spear
#

I don't mind md_5's code style, as long as you're consistent.

wide chasm
#

Except...

austere ivy
#

Right, of course. Follow the project's code style.

#

I still wouldn't want to work on it though.

heady spear
#

I've used it and you get used to it đŸ€·

woven otter
#

there's only one true brace style

heady spear
#

python is fucking ugly though

fallen jungle
#

K&R gang

wide chasm
#

Yes

if (true)
    {
    //code
    }
heady spear
#

so today was day two of my python adventure and it's still bloody miserable

fallen jungle
#

oof

heady spear
#

stef, uh

wide chasm
#

Hmm?

heady spear
#

did you see the snippet I posted from my prof before?

woven otter
#

no that's wrong

heady spear
#

If not I'll send you a screenshot

fallen jungle
#

I've seen somebody seriously suggest that style

wide chasm
#

I don't think I've seen that one

fallen jungle
#

like unironically

pulsar wigeon
wide chasm
#

Yes

warped spear
#

half precision is barely an option for java too

wide chasm
woven otter
#

^

warped spear
#

which makes me sad

fallen jungle
#

What half precision are you talking about

#

16-bit floats?

warped spear
#

^

heady spear
warped spear
#

sorry should have specified

fallen jungle
#

Is there really that good support for that in C++? I've never come across that

wide chasm
#

Oh no

#

Oh no, that's very bad

#

Please don't do this

pulsar wigeon
#

that site is great

#

view-source on it

warped spear
#

there are libaries for it in C++

pulsar wigeon
#

chef eating their own food

fallen jungle
#

Software-emulated...?

#

That's a no from me

warped spear
#

its more like a native extension

heady spear
#

stef, he "recommend this because it's more readable"

pulsar wigeon
#

i'm disappointed their xml formatting doesn't follow their code formatting tbh

warped spear
#

its good for graphics stuff

pulsar wigeon
wide chasm
#
<body                       >
<body                      />```
fallen jungle
#

I try to avoid floats in general, also in graphics

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

heady spear
#

Floats are bloody awful

woven otter
#

why are you bullying floats

heady spear
#

I'm only saying that because we had to do manually convert them to iee754 format my last exam

warped spear
#

I basically use half floats, floats, and ints, and bytes for everything

heady spear
#

and dealing with them in general is pretty miserable

warped spear
#

I avoid doubles when I can

fallen jungle
#

Do you really always write super performance critical code? đŸ€”

austere ivy
#

No.

heady spear
#

dealing with floats is hella time consuming

austere ivy
#

I write super ultra mega extreme supreme performance critical code.

warped spear
#

well my latest work has been with compute shaders

heady spear
#

so don't use them unless you have to đŸ€·

austere ivy
#

That's how you know I'm a professional 😎

warped spear
#

so sorta recently

#

one of the things i am working on rn is a path tracer using half precision

pulsar wigeon
#

ew tf

fallen jungle
#

Have you seen IQs article about floating bars?

pulsar wigeon
#

why would you use half precision for anything

#

unless you're on a 16 bit cpu

fallen jungle
#

It saves a whole 16 bits wiz

pulsar wigeon
#

no it doesn't

fallen jungle
#

16 bits

pulsar wigeon
#

your cpu isn't operating in 16 bit mode

warped spear
#

the lack of accuracy hit is fine for path tracing cause you run denoising later and your doing stuff off a modern gpu

pulsar wigeon
#

you're just ignoring high bits

warped spear
#

with double rate fp16

austere ivy
#

I have a 16 bit cpu

fallen jungle
#

But I can pack two 16-bit floats into 32 bits 😏 Massive savings

#

Ok yeah no.

austere ivy
#

wait it's 64 bit

pulsar wigeon
#

doesn't sound like he's using them for storage savings

#

so i'm talking about processing

warped spear
#

intially I was using regular fp32

heady spear
#

you save some processing tbf

fallen jungle
#

The NVidia performance guide does say to use 16-bit indices instead of 32 bits..

warped spear
#

but it was slow as shit so tried fp16 and its been pretty good for this

heady spear
#

less divisions because there are less numbers 😛

fallen jungle
#

float divisions ew

pulsar wigeon
#

indices for what

#

who the fuck indexes things with floats

fallen jungle
#

It was for vertex buffers so those were integers yes

#

and uh, javascript?

pulsar wigeon
#

LUL

#

i think that's just a language detail because it only has Number tbf

#

it's not like things are internally indexed by float

#

number just converted to int for indexing most likely?

warped spear
#

the rays are calculated with half precision because they are followed with denoising for clean up and TAA and sharpening after taht

fallen jungle
#

I read that even integers are implemented as just 64-bit floats so the max integer value with full accuracy is 2^53 -1

#

it's just bad

austere ivy
#

Wait what?

heady spear
#

IEEE754 is nightmare fuel

fallen jungle
#

I don't like the article, it leaves out a lot of details and I'm sceptical

pulsar wigeon
#

. In this case, something better is posits, his third iteration of his “universal numbers” research.

#

i just barely skimmed

#

and it tells you something if this guy is on his third iteration

warped spear
#

regular floating points are fine for accuracy

#

your rarely need a double tbh

heady spear
#

Regular floating points are disgusting

austere ivy
#

What does it tell you, wiz?

heady spear
#

accuracy of arithemetic is highly variable with all floating point numbers

austere ivy
#

That he's worked a while on it or that it's a bad idea?

heady spear
#

You rarely need floating points, is the truth 😛

fallen jungle
warped spear
#

cool

#

this looks fun

heady spear
#

wait are we just forgetting we hate phantom now

warped spear
#

i think you are the only one who hates me

#

thats ok I don't hate you

olive garden
#

No, I also hate you

heady spear
#

😩 I don't like to be alone in my hatred

warped spear
#

I don't hate any of you

fallen jungle
#

I mean I guess we all still disagree that Java is slow

warped spear
#

you all seem fun

heady spear
#

If you say something stupid you deserve backlash for it for all eternity

warped spear
#

😄

fallen jungle
#

Oh we are fun

warped spear
#

@heady spear true it is the rule of the internet

#

my complaints with java are from my experiences with modding minecraft tbh

#

and preference for C++ and floating points from graphics programming

#

đŸ€·

austere ivy
#

Are you complaining about Java or about Forge's API?

heady spear
#

the fact that you prefer floating points for anything means that you haven't ever had to deal them them on a low level .-.

#

they're bloody disgusting

austere ivy
#

You're british aren't you, city?

heady spear
#

Java has historically had uh.... minor performance problems. Many of the archaic arguments against Java don't really apply in 2019

#

The language sure has problems, but problems with performance are not significant at all. The problem is mostly with how the language is used.

austere ivy
#

Alright, City, what are your recommendations on the proper use of Java?

wide chasm
#

Don't use it for everything

heady spear
#

Java and C++ both have issues with old and rusty codebases, but Java has been way better about solving those issues

#

C++ has modern C++

#

which is uh

#

well

#

interesting

#

Well, first of all, consider the requirements of the system and the program you're running. Sometimes you might need to offer JIT for AOT, which could yield faster turnaround times in the short run

#

but JIT can have a pretty significant impact in the long run

#

Do you need really quick launch times? Then waiting for the JVM might not be ideal. Possibly consider ditching it for some crazy graal native code shit

#

there are also alternative VMs that do certain things better. Essentially, pick the correct tools for your needs đŸ€·

austere ivy
#

Okay.

#

City what are your hobbies apart from programming?

heady spear
#

I like sleeping

wide chasm
#

I'm gonna use that one in the future actually, thank you

heady spear
#

I workout and I take photos of stuffs and things. Those are my main hobbies 😛

austere ivy
#

Stef, do you want a discord avatar?

#

And City, what are your favorite games?

#

Apart from Minecraft.

heady spear
#

I barely ever play games tbh but the last game I really enjoyed was FFXIV 😛

#

it's utter trash tho

#

Oh and FFXV was also good, forgot I played that shit

austere ivy
#

Okay, okay, do you have any pets? Any animal friends?

heady spear
#

are you trying to steal my identity

austere ivy
#

No.

olive garden
#

just your password

#

when were you born?

austere ivy
#

So no animals? Huh okay.

#

If you were to get an animal friend, what would it be? Dogs, cats, chickens?

limber knotBOT
#

42

heady spear
#

I have three cats but couldn't move with me when I started uni 😛

#

I also had a pony but he died, and our other horse got a brain tumour and died

austere ivy
#

That's really sad I'm sorry to hear that, horses are great animals.

heady spear
#

the one that got the tumour was a fucking asshole tho

austere ivy
#

I'm.. sorry to hear that too.

#

Moving on, what do you hope to get out of being a developer?

#

Money? Fame? Just for kicks?

heady spear
#

😛 I'm really not planning on working with development, it's a backup plan

austere ivy
#

Alright, what got you into development?

limber knotBOT
#

all the fat chicks and mcdonalds he can have

heady spear
#

fame and money are about the least likely outcomes of a career in software engineering in this country lol

#

I really wanted to write a prompt that asked for my age and then printed it back in the terminal

#

in case I forgot, you know?

austere ivy
#

Yeah, I think that's how we all started out haha.

#

Now tell me, are you a man of many secrets?

heady spear
#

I'm actually a nonbinary chicken

#

I'm not sure if chickens can keep secrets

austere ivy
#

Alright.

#

As a person who has 5 chickens in their backyard I can confirm they can keep secrets. They're actually quite intelligent.

#

Moving on forward with your life, what's something you hope to accomplish in the near future?

heady spear
#

bro you reminded me of Earl

wide chasm
#

Earl sounds like a lovely person

austere ivy
#

LOL I'm actually quite clean though, showers at least every day and whatnot.

heady spear
#

As much as I love talking about myself, I do have something else to do rn

austere ivy
#

I vacuum my room at least 3 times a week.

#

Alright see you later City, thanks for your time.

#

(it's a small room though)

wide chasm
#

thanks for your passwords*

#

😉

austere ivy
#

stef so do you want an avatar or not?

heady spear
#

^yes my passwords are developerwith3catsand2deadhorsesthatlikesphotography

wide chasm
#

The theme is that I basically keep the default for every account I have, so I think I'm gonna stick with that. Thanks for the offer though.

austere ivy
#

Really? That's pretty interesting.

#

I'm pretty nuts for branding myself so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wide chasm
#

I have the same name pretty much everywhere, so you should still be able to recognize me if needed

#

But other than that, I don't really care about it that much

woven otter
#

thanks for the password ur hacked

wide chasm
#

Oh noes

austere ivy
#

You can find me anywhere as TehBrian, or ItsTehBrian.

#

There's not one account I have that isn't that.

#

Easier to find me but I don't care, you can find people easily anyway.

limber knotBOT
#

why have a typo in your brand name though? thonk

austere ivy
#

Alright, when did Minecraft account renaming come out?

#

2015?

#

Anyway, when that happened, I needed to change my name because I didn't like my previous one.

limber knotBOT
#

also > not owning tehbrian.dev

austere ivy
#

I'm not very creative, so I just tried "TheBrian"

#

Taken, so "TehBrian" was the second best bet.

limber knotBOT
#

what's wrong with BrianHernando? đŸ€”

austere ivy
#

It's grown on me and at this point trying to rename every account I own wouldn't be worth the hassle.

#

I don't like it.

#

Long, not memorizable, and similarly to TehBrian but WORSE, it's hard to pronounce.

#

TehBrian, pronounce it how you like but you can still get across "Teh"

#

Hernando, everyone (depending on where you're from) will say it differently.

limber knotBOT
#

wat

#

how else can you say that?

austere ivy
#

go to general voice.

wide chasm
#

Her-nan-do?

limber knotBOT
#

IRC doesn't have voice :P

austere ivy
#

Oof, yeah.

#

Well if it's said properly it's Er-nan-do.

dense temple
austere ivy
#

ErnanDO, emphasis on the last part.

pulsar wigeon
#

voice channels on irc?

#

lul

wide chasm
#

So a silent H at the front

austere ivy
#

Yes, that's how spanish works.

heady spear
#

clearly spanish

wide chasm
#

Are you Spanish?

austere ivy
#

Yeah.

wide chasm
#

Oh, didn't know that

austere ivy
#

If you look at my youtube you can see some super quality content by the way.

heady spear
#

I bet stef says hola with an h

wide chasm
#

I don't

heady spear
#

sure u don't

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Communist Eggs - length 59s - 1 like, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 27 views - TehBrian on 2019.02.07

austere ivy
#

Guaranteed you won't find better content anywhere else on the planet.

heady spear
#

uh I disagree

#

spottedleaf has good content

wide chasm
#

Well, I haven't had any formal Spanish study or something, but I think I could manage hola.

heady spear
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Using a water bucket effectively - length 19s - 33 views - searchndstroy on 2014.08.15

heady spear
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he made this awesome tutorial

austere ivy
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That's adorable.

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I like to think about the fact that once, Leaf was a 9 year old who just wanted to play Minecraft.

wide chasm
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Isn't that still the case?
runs

heady spear
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so 4 years ago?

austere ivy
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Yup.

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4

pulsar wigeon
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searchndstroy

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.leaf

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wiz

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You're retarded

austere ivy
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.brian

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wide chasm
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wtf

austere ivy
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Cracks me up everytime.

wide chasm
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But, like, how... why?

austere ivy
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Guy wanted melted cheese, what can you say?

wide chasm
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Alright, melted cheese is pretty good, but still

woven otter
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what a smart guy

austere ivy
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Anyone here want to play Minecraft by the way đŸ€ 

wide chasm
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I'd rather play IJ

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austere ivy
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Can someone do a fitting peepo emote for me please?

limber knotBOT
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No

austere ivy
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Leaf not that peepo emote.

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Not that one.

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kash where was that one 1.14 server?

subtle hollow
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its time for my talk in here again

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how are you guys doing

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i had a lovely talk last time with cat and some others

wide chasm
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I'm doing fine, how about you?

subtle hollow
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good!

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that is.. not good

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what subject?

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oh

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physics?

pulsar wigeon
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touch hot thing, get burned

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all you need to know for life

subtle hollow
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lol

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i cant imagine how that sounds in dutch

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sounds funny

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Hitte- en massaoverdrachtsfenomeen

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oh

wide chasm
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Is that someone who doesn't put incorrect spaces between words in Dutch? I'm proud!

subtle hollow
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hey

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you gotta get your grammar right

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uni?

pulsar wigeon
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42

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fuck calculus tbh

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also those questions sound like traps

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"Briefly discuss..."

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then you get points docked cuz you just wrote and explained a mathematical induction instead of a 5 paragraph essay

prime pawn
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How to trigger you all and revive chat: "1.8"

subtle hollow
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they gave me a choice to follow calculus here

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didnt bother

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im loving it man

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gson telling me something is not a valid JSON object while it is

prime pawn
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barty, there's a pretty decent Discord server for mathematics

heady spear
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Ew I’m so happy I decided to ditch physics

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I’ve one more mechanics class then I’m done with all my physics credits. That shit looks awful

woven otter
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why are you happy with that

heady spear
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??? Because physics is painful

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It’s fun in theory but when you actually get to higher level physics courses you kind of realize how they’re not fun at all

woven otter
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ur painful why aren't you ditched yet

heady spear
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If you’ve nothing nice to say then why speak at all

woven otter
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I'm not nice

heady spear
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I opted for more math instead, and I don’t regret that decision at all

fossil abyss
woven otter
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ahh I kinda want to do physics but I'm kinda expecting to be fucked in the head if I decide to do it

heady spear
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I mean, if you’re interested then you’ll find ways to make it work

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I realized I wasn’t interested in the material we covered at all and so I didn’t care enough to try

woven otter
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I mean I really started to like math once I learnt about calculus and physics was hard in uni but still interesting enough

heady spear
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The only physics course I really enjoyed was relativity but then we got to general relativity and I was like uh no thx

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Fuck relativist mechanics and fuck black holes and fuck Einstein and fuck his postulates

subtle hollow
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likes relativity
fuck einstein

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k

heady spear
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I liked the fluffy parts of special relativity, to be specific xd

woven otter
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Now I'm curious

heady spear
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I’ve done quite poorly in physics courses overall. I had to take wave mechanics three times lol

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Tbf the class was so fucking boring and the exams were hella weird. Like they asked stuff about interferometers and Guinean tribal drums out of nowhere

prime pawn
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So, I had a thought. If I could somehow flip the item in an itemframe (flip, not rotate), perhaps I could add images as if they were actually on a wall. Regardless if that is possible or not, it just spazzes whenever I move in the slightest xD any ideas?

woven otter
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I guess you got pretty deep into physics then?

heady spear
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So I’m getting my degree in computer engineering but all engineering degrees here require a certain amount of physics credits

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I’ve tried to avoid the engineering mechanics courses for as long as possible because they’re supposedly super fucking boring

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So I tried to take stuff that seemed more fun, and I ended up taking courses I didn’t need at all and then I realized that none of this was for me

woven otter
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we had credits for physics too for chem but we never really got too deep.

heady spear
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I was going to take some extra courses in quantum mechanics and shit because that should have been cool, but considering how poorly I did with wave mechanics I gave up on that lol

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But tbh if you want to do more physics then go for it. The people that do poorly are most often the ones that didn’t want to take physics to begin with

woven otter
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well I do most academic things poorly so I guess that's a start?

heady spear
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Uh

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Hm

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sperm shooting out

heady spear
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What

woven otter
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what was the answer

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maybe

austere ivy
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@Jared I think they're insulting you.

woven otter
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I liked the response

austere ivy
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@🩆

woven otter
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.kill TehBrian

limber knotBOT
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beheads TehBrian with a rusty scythe and uses their head to play baseball.

austere ivy
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Lame.

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.kill Duck

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snacks on Duck's dismembered body.