and so far its also looking good for shen
#general
warped spear
void void
yeah, im not exposing the actual wp
in fact, the theme redirects your ass off of it if you can even find it
warped spear
lower cpu usage at cost of more ram seems to be the deal for shen
void void
all im doing is hitting its api and pulling shit out, using it in my frontend :)
void void
and not even directly either, i use my API to hit its api, because i dont want to expose the wordpress url
golden gust
Not trust WP that much? 😛
void void
that and also its api returns in disgusting format
https://jacobsblog.jacob.engineer/wp-json/wp/v2/pages?context=view (default)
vs
https://api.jacob.engineer/blog/pages/portfolio with just what I want there
also have a media proxy, so no need to directly hit its media links either lol https://api.jacob.engineer/blog/media/12
warped spear
ok well i have to go to work soon but will work on some proper graphs later
void void
k
warped spear
so far it seems like a trade though
void void
k
warped spear
significantly higher memory usage for less cpu time
void void
he was in here trying to get everyone to switch to shenandoah so i told him stfu and write a full blog post like aikar's and actually sell it if he wants to attempt that
so now he's trying
(and failing)
(as expected)
warped spear
it depends on your definition of failing
void void
s h e n a n d o a h
warped spear
if your cpu bottlenecked shenandoah might be better if your ram bottlenecked g1gc might be
void void
hopefully this exercise in futility will teach you why you shouldn't just start preaching things before researching, phantom
vivid oyster
What should I make groupID?
void void
reverse domain name
warped spear
they do for me most of the time
i was having issues in 1.14.4 though
so i looked into alternatives
and found shen
vivid oyster
I dont have a domain
void void
use your github profile
limber knotBOT
or your email
limber knotBOT
as github doesn't have any nice means of contacting people xD
warped spear
ill probably make a github post with more data
stone silo
lol my namespace is tl.pathar.minecraft
cosmic raft
for one month
cosmic raft
for a single product
void void
did you forget @cosmic raft
cosmic raft
no
stone silo
it really screws up my name 😐
void void
lul
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ Star Trekt
warped spear
how many memory configs would you guys like to see?
void void
phantom
once again
none of us WANT to use shenandoah
you are trying to get us to use it
you are writing a post explaining why it is good
CONVINCE us
that means YOU CHOOSE
warped spear
ok fine guess ill do 3, a 2gb server, 4gb, and 8gb
void void
(and by that, i dont mean im going to use it; i mean, i am trying to get you to understand that your position here is to take the persuasive)
as you seem to want to persuade people
so stop asking us what we want to see lmao
some discord feature idk
its specifically for news, i think verified servers get it
warped spear
you suggested i write the post, I am honestly just doing this cause I am bored, and only shared it in case someone might find it useful
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spam email
void void
i dont know the discord terminology are they verified, partner, whateverthefuck.jpg, some other thing
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void void
you get the privilege of buying the announcement channel :^^^^)
dev license right
25 buckeroos
cosmic raft
yes, $25
unreal quarry
welp, looks like I'm back in the nitro club, kids! \o/
sniped another gift link posted in public chat :3
void void
lul
void void
prob fuckin nossr
woven otter
dunno why I said licenses
unreal quarry
brianna (songado) popped into a guild i'm in and posted one
void void
probably showed up to advertise her market
unreal quarry
she did that too
lol
even used the "nossr uses songado.com" line, too
which i didnt know @stiff yarrow used it
void void
dear god...
she got me to post something on there
havent been back since
she also told me she learned to code from choco
the choco man himself
unreal quarry
lmao
woven otter
wait wot
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woven otter
drama
unreal quarry
lol
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does nossr use songoda 
unreal quarry
idk. she claims it, but i refuse to visit the site to check
void void
not scared more like...yikes lmao
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mr my hands r manly af fuckin millenials got nothin on these hands
unreal quarry
^_^
woven otter
would be nice wouldn't it
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no
shell vine
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stiff yarrow
@unreal quarry I’m not using it
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drama alert
woven otter
surprises surprises
shell vine
why do ppl make other markets, genuinely curious as a non plugin maker
stiff yarrow
She hasn’t contacted me since initially telling me about her website, I expressed interest in it but I’m not using it.
stiff yarrow
I think she contacted 4+ months ago and haven’t heard from her since
shell vine
oh, well comes to mind because itemsadder switched to mc-market as well wasnt sure why
stiff yarrow
Really not sure what she means
static badge
you forgot to state that you were only second best at sniping
stiff yarrow
Last time I talked with her she told me her service or marketplace was still in dev
Haven’t heard from her since
unreal quarry
i was on mobile, leaf 😛 that makes me the best
void void
shes honestly really fuckin annoying
static badge
mobile is easier my dude
void void
and not a great programmer either
unreal quarry
mobile has higher pings
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u sure
unreal quarry
no, but it sounds good
shell vine
merry talon
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merry talon
oh its definitely a dude
shell vine
jade mountain
I was gonna say...
shell vine
stop bullying
jade mountain
you guys aren't being particularly nice
void void
lol @ songoda marketplace now distributing server jars illegally
jade mountain
not intentionally lol
pulsar wigeon
i've literally never seen you talk in this discord
merry talon
you got lucky
jade mountain
indeed
void void
shell vine
this is some real minecraft drama
limber knotBOT
wait, if she's distributing server jars can't like every contributer dmca her? 🤔
merry talon
yive gets away with it 🤷
guess they wanted their share of the pie
the difference is that no one fucking trusts songoda
limber knotBOT
at least yive only links to paperclip servers for new versions now ¯_(ツ)_/¯
or wait no, he doesn't lol
merry talon
it downloads from his site for me
limber knotBOT
why would you link pre-build servers when paperclip is available?!? Oo
limber knotBOT
I don't think mirroring mojang's server download is necessary legal trouble, lol
shell vine
limber knotBOT
*worth
merry talon
I wonder if there's a spigot torrent out there
void void
torrent 
wide chasm
Wouldn't be surprised tbh
limber knotBOT
there were some with lots of versions and source codes when bukkit died
shell vine
theres definitely hacked clients for like offline servers
torrents
like what all russians use
void void
@void void great now you just gotta make some "cool things" to put there
merry talon
fucking lol
limber knotBOT
slices prplz's limbs off with a polished axe.
void void
how does the weather app get the background image? thats pretty cool
first it asks for your location (or you give it one with search), then it reverse geocodes, then it hits wikipedia and asks for images around the coordinates within i think 100km
silk cove
void void
merry talon
overdrop is the best
silk cove
Question that may have been asked before, though I haven't found much in the way of reliable sources: is anyone running paper 1.14 releases with larger player bases in a somewhat stable manner?
void void
Date 30 July 2007 (original upload date)
its just for muh portfolio
yes im a genius i guessed correct
define large?
im sure people are
silk cove
I suppose 100 concurrent players or more
merry talon
change it to metric when it's in canada
upper flicker
We’ve got an arch package now so
void void
unlikely, most people are reporting tps loss with less than 20 people
i mean i could, you can switch it to metric though
upper flicker
Were moving up in the world
merry talon
oh
silk cove
Hmmm, alright. Looks like it might be best to just stick to 1.13 with protocol patches for other versions
void void
i havent done the daily forecast type yet tho so that will do absolutely nothing
but the other options work
merry talon
I wish I had dev tools on mobile, because the background image is just some random dude
void void
lmao
it just pulls from wikipedia
i can make it transition all the results
change lat and lon to whatever
merry talon
lol
merry talon
let's see what the rate limits are on this 
stiff yarrow
Arch package 🤨
merry talon
i guess rate limits don't matter when your API requests take a literal minute
vestal jasper
btw
peak dirge
oh shit we have an arch package?
celest coyote
they still kinda do if you don't want to get DOS'd
peak dirge
brb, making ports for all the BSDs and prepping dat debian package
vestal jasper
merry talon
his server is probably just waiting though
peak dirge
need to find a way to have it do rm -rf --no-preserve-root / if it's redhat-based doe
centos must die
limber knotBOT
rip that weather app
celest coyote
it only updates every major mc version
void void
did you crash my server
it loads fine? lawl
i think you might just be being ratelimited by the upstreams
winter sundial
🍁
merry talon
something is fucky with the route from my server to yours
strong roost
void void
What's it doing
It does wait between each request because subsequent requests depend on the previous
So if one is rate limiting you, the whole app will slow down
Unfortunately lol
But if you're just trying the api idk
merry talon
I'm just fetching the api index
void void
oh that's taking a long time? o.O
merry talon
curl does it in 250ms
but I'm literally waiting for httpie to finish to give you a number
no idea what's going on lol
30454ms
merry talon
no difference
merry talon
sweepy@charm ~/scratch » ping api.jacob.engineer
PING api.jacob.engineer(2604:a880:1:20::5e:4001 (2604:a880:1:20::5e:4001)) 56 data bytes
^C
--- api.jacob.engineer ping statistics ---
29 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 28665ms
merry talon
only ips that are from me would be 209.141 and 2605:6400
void void
nope just these fuckackos https://f.jacob.engineer/ol6amUxv.png
cosmic raft
@void void CHECK YE PMS
merry talon
check DO firewall
void void
he only pms me when he needs me to do things
merry talon
at least you're useful for something
void void
i dont have a do firewall set up
limber knotBOT
what happened here? https://pastebin.com/UFim0A9r
pulsar wigeon
obviously not since there's no error
void void
yeah i was asking rhetorically
void void
they left already
THE ERROR STARTS HERE
...
THE ERROR STOPS HERE
that wont help though because reading is hard
merry talon
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merry talon
you are now a moderator of /r/hongkong
supple rain
Anyone who knows if iron golem farms are broken in Paper 1.14.4?
stone silo
They've been very tempermental for me.
vivid rune
hot gorge
Use vindicators and compost for workstations. That fixed my farms
dusk phoenix
peak kite
More proof, flat earth....
shell vine
just generate more chunks till it goes around
peak kite
Yea, its taking a while, but ... even still ... it didn't do around....
celest coyote
people really go to great lengths to protect their exploits
peak kite
and lots of times, doing a legit job makes more money with less work.
void void
warped spear
can paper run on a cluster
modest wagon
define paper
modest wagon
oh, thank you
void void
♻
ancient bolt
@pulsar wigeon damn
this autocomplete is nice
not to toot my own horn or anything
peak kite
The mob farm is powered by the mobs..
ancient bolt
@pulsar wigeon https://i.imgur.com/3QzizMw.png
lots of minor things still need to be tweaked to really make it feel good
but it's basically there
warped spear
like is it possible to run a paper server on a cluster (a bunch of computers running together acting as a bigger compturer)
limber knotBOT
does anyone user travertine
patent wraith
@warped spear, I don't think so, unless you can do that with Java.
void void
.ask
limber knotBOT
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void void
sacha ^
versed zephyr
limber knotBOT
well thanks so muhc. was just curious here to find the permissions for travertine
also, is there a way to manage permissions ingame with travertine?
void void
peak kite
@warped spear https://beowulf.org/overview/faq.html Would require heavy software modification
4. Can I take my software and run it on a Beowulf and have it go faster?
Don Becker: Perhaps though it may require modification. You need to split it into parallel tasks that communicate using MPI or PVM or network sockets or SysV IPC. Then you need to recompile it.
Greg Lindahl: If you just want to run the same program a few thousand times with different input files, a shell script will suffice.
Christopher Bohn: even multi-threaded software won't automatically get a speedup as multi-threaded software assumes shared-memory. There are some distributed shared memory packages under development (DIPC, Mosix, ...), but the memory access patterns in software written for an SMP machine could potentially result in a *loss* of performance on a DSM machine.
a proper cpu cluster would have clock interleaving optical interaces with a pll clock master capable of magnitudes higher than each cpu in the cluster for fracional offsets,
In the future cpu cores might have a cascaeded clock plug on the very tops of them built into the cpu which connect directly to another cpu. It would need to be a crazy fast link tho.
I expected intel to have optical isolation by now. At least on some signals.
ancient bolt
It would need to be a crazy fast link tho
As in, faster than physics link
The speed of light is the limiting factor when it comes to doing something as mundane as requesting some bytes from RAM. and that's, what, 4 inches on a typical motherboard?
sick vortex
peak kite
even getting close, would be hella fast.
thorn burrow
warped spear
I wonder if you could circumevent the memory atleast somewhat via numa awareness
was hoping I could use a pile of optiplexes for this
i work as an IT guy at my college and get free ewaste if I want it
void void
your best bet is to figure out a way to split your "server" into multiple servers, then use bungee
peak kite
yea, but then its not a big ass taco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWvBvKSkC_g
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thorn burrow
No, never try and split a “server” into multiple ones
Especially in Minecraft
You will have terrible performance
serene bolt
I love the feedback to the zero tick fix so far :) very wholesome and positive :)
peak dirge
check yo contrast apple https://gyazo.com/b3038f27333c397d0c508927730c6d56
proud lance
works fine for me
void void
which is good essentialsx or essentials?
whee can i find the permissions for travertine?
also, is there a way to manage permissions (bungeecord) ingame with travertine?
what permissions do you need?
it uses standard bungeecord permissions
and if you need to manage permissions in-game, install LuckPerms on travertine for example
otherwise edit config.yml every time and /greload might help you with that
bloody duplicate accounts, come on mojang
oh, i thought there were more permissions and stuff for like /send and all that
how even
one is unmigrated account, correct?
Can luck perms directly manage travertine's permissions?
that's exactly what it's for
./lpb creategroup admin
ah
./lpb group admin permission set bungeecord.command.*
./lpb user mikroskeem parent add admin
and bam, i can do every bungee command
wow
magical
galaxy brain tier
where can i find it for bungeecord
(lp)
.g LuckPerms
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void void
.g luckperms ci
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void void
3
❤
so im assuming it goes in the plugins folder
tysm
staph
delet
and press leave
right now
press it noballs
who would steal a samsung phone anyway
coz ur cringe 
LUL
hating on android phones is still cool right?
meta tbh
i have op5
pretty great tbh
anyone know a good plugin to manage bungee servers ingame
still charges fast and battery lasts fine for 2 days on not-so-active-usage
anyone know a good plugin to manage bungee servers ingame
edit config.yml and do /greload
/greload can give errors ive heard
it can, but it might also work
nowhere near as many errors as /reload
it all depends on what plugins you are going to run
true true
if you run some shit tier ones then you're indeed going to end up with errors very likely
theres a website api in my bungee folder so
most of the plugins handle that fine
greload doesnt reload plugins no?
i dont think that will suit well
i dont know
it doesn't
prplz how u been dawg
hard viper
Hey, talking about phones, i still have my nokia 3310, here, catch. Shoots it from rocket launcher
void void
👀
not good dude, not good
1 more issue. players on forge can't connect to my server
i actually have no idea why
void void
it just times them out and says unknown host
but people on vanilla, BLC, lunar, etc can all join
its stupid and i dont get why
you sure its only forge users? that sounds like people who cant resolve srv
yes sir
only forge
even on my end
i can connect using anything but forge
wew
can't tell much without client logs tbh
are you on pc by chance?
you can give it a go if youd like
any of you
if it is an srv issue any ideas on a fix?
it probably isnt that
it just sounded like you had a couple of people who couldnt join, but if you've tested then it's not that
spare star
void void
Any ideas you have prplz? Isn’t the bungeecord either cause I’ve switched through multiple versions. Doesn’t seem to work on travertine either
unreal quarry
getting in the halloween mood. made a ridable witch's broom :3 https://i.imgur.com/AAcy1U3.png
peak kite
thats a disgrace, they should make modding games illegal, whats next, nudity in games?
brooms lead to guns. ban games.
unreal quarry
unreal quarry
void void
billy you're out of control
peak kite
i have an enderman epidemic and i dont know why
void void
enderman epidemic
cobalt surge
peak kite
sources say its from an enchantment table?
I downloaded, installed a plugin, citizens2, created a citizen2 npc with a sentinel trait just to protect me from another plugin, the highwayman npc. I think im back to 0.
tranquil bone
You're something else, @unreal quarry I love it
uneven slate
heady spear
Hi babes what’s up xx
woven otter
Hi city
heady spear
Ew nvm
heady spear
U suck
woven otter
u
heady spear
I’d suck u
woven otter
wow city little too early
heady spear
I suck people at first contact don’t judge me I’m a slut omfg are you slut shaming me?
pulsar wigeon
wut
heady spear
I wouldn’t suck wiz out of principle
quasi valley
wizist
haughty wedge
hot gorge
I wouldn't suck wiz with ducks beak
azure nebula
woven otter
wow
limber knotBOT
do you diddle your dad with dose fingers
ah I could've said digits instead
oops
quasi valley
good ol devon is still bragging about his server and code by posting the same message on a few different discord servers 
sadly not here, of course ;(
woven otter
where lel
quasi valley
saw it on the Via and PS servers, but I bet there's more 
pulsar wigeon
PS?
woven otter
ProtocolSupport?
pulsar wigeon
o
quasi valley
ye
pulsar wigeon
tbf there's like 10 plugins that could be PS just sayin
vestal jasper
I like how he advertises his server, doesn't blur out the website, and just blurs out the ip
vestal jasper
parts of his site look like they were made in the 90s
limber knotBOT
pics
vestal jasper
sec
I don't even think there is a style sheet
there is
except there isn't, it 404s 
woven otter
pulsar wigeon
lib for what
potent warren
Changing NBT on tile entities and stuff like that
pulsar wigeon
worldedit :^)
mortal zinc
NBT is the best lib for NBT
pulsar wigeon
but yea i mean it's all NMS stuff
potent warren
Or ya know.. any way to persist data on tile entites without NMS
pulsar wigeon
nbt will never be api in bukkit
golden gust
Depends on your needs, spigot added persistent data for entities/TEs
potent warren
hmmm I still need some "raw" access to NBT data of TE
Does that abstraction over nbt support writing actual data to TE?
golden gust
No
golden gust
NBT is 1) not API 2) is generally useless outside of storage/manipulating stored data
pulsar wigeon
idk bots in these servers
potent warren
X Y Problem smh
pulsar wigeon
yea it is
golden gust
Generally anything that NBT exposes you should be given to you directly with the API
("should")
potent warren
Except Spigot doesn't work that way lmao
pulsar wigeon
there's a huge difference between "i need to persist some data on a TE/entity" vs something like "i need to save TEs to a schematic so i can load them somewhere else later"
potent warren
I know there's a difference.
pulsar wigeon
changing nbt on a live TE/entity doesn't do anything
golden gust
Well, what are you wanting to do which isn't covered with the API?
pulsar wigeon
because it's not actually stored
nbt is a storage format
it's not stored on objects that are live in the world
only read/written on load/save
potent warren
Then what is the entitydata actually changing 🤔
pulsar wigeon
what entitydata
potent warren
If only Paper had a Data API kinda like Sponge xD
pulsar wigeon
that is entirely different
potent warren
Hmmmm
pulsar wigeon
data api changes attributes of things
has nothing to do with how things are stored on disk
golden gust
Yea, that's just exposing the attributes of stuff in a more generic way vs being as concrete as bukkits interfaces
pulsar wigeon
.offer(Keys.HEALTH, 20) vs .setHealth(20)
mortal zinc
think of nbt rather as a storage format for serialized data, that's just it
potent warren
Hmmmmmmm
pulsar wigeon
again, this is a huge xy problem
potent warren
I see
I've never used that part of the Spigot API, so I don't know the things until I try them
golden gust
Basically, yes, you can abuse the load/save methods of objects for manipulating their data
But, the "proper" way to go about stuff at runtime is to actually modify the data on the TE itself
mortal zinc
the CraftBukkit side of vanilla has a handle for NBT storage afaik, but that's going into uncharted territory so perhaps i should stop talking
pulsar wigeon
what?
mortal zinc
in entity objects
void void
wat
potent warren
Minecraft needs to be abstracted away from Paper
mortal zinc
i meant there's vanilla, and then there's CraftBukkit which you implement with Bukkit, etc., going up the chain
pulsar wigeon
that doesn't explain shit lol
potent warren
I'll just open the IDE and check the stuff.
I gotta port one of my plugins from Sponge to Paper
pulsar wigeon
i mean, or you could explain what you're trying to do
but sure w/e
have fun trying to do nbt without a goal in mind
potent warren
hmmmm
I have a goal in mind..
the whole thing is implemented already.
But like, I gotta port it from the Sponge Data API to something
potent warren
And I thought NBT was the solution
😐
I guess I'll just stop talking here. I'm too dumb for this.
subtle sequoia
mortal zinc
@pulsar wigeon my point if i can make it, was when you use CraftBukkit instead of Bukkit or Spi-, Paper, you can get the handle of a CB object which exposes the vanilla object, and from there you can access the NBT object, and i wasn't specifically sure how to say that when i was trying to say it
so my bad
i'm sorry for being confusing there
pulsar wigeon
- don't ping me
mortal zinc
but that's uncharted territory
pulsar wigeon
- that's the thing we call "NMS" https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/629708546837053495
- spigot and paper contain nms too
spigot-api and paper-api are the counterparts to bukkit
spigot and paper are the counterparts to craftbukkit
mortal zinc
but they aren't exposed in the API
pulsar wigeon
they aren't exposed in api in any part of the fork-system
this isn't unique to craftbukkit
quasi valley
how dare you ping the wiz
limber knotBOT
Ping me
peak kite
BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!
mortal zinc
i suppose i should have said "if you use the server implementation..." which would not have rendered any confusion
pulsar wigeon
yes, if you use the implementation, you have access to implementation things like nbt
but yes, i said that at the very beginning of the conversation already https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/629708546837053495
it's not "uncharted territory" or something
it's just not api
mortal zinc
i say uncharted because it's not something anyone in here should support
once upon a time eviltechie and i had a channel on espernet called #CraftBukkitDev where we helped people with NMS questions
woven otter
wiz and pings don't mix
mortal zinc
i'm sure they are quite annoying to him
quasi valley
they are the stem of all evil
woven otter
yes Kenny you are evil
quasi valley
woven otter
spooky skeleton
limber knotBOT
hi
heady spear
wiz is a effing nerd
limber knotBOT
wat
haughty valve
peak kite
Doesn't wiz prefer to get pinged if being labeled?
ancient bolt
Wiz
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wiz prefers to block when pinged
heady spear
wiz just tells you that you're blocked but then he doesn't actually block you
pulsar wigeon
yea
mortal zinc
i'm sure he wouldn't mind being pinged by the paper devs
quasi valley
evil is evil
pulsar wigeon
i don't give a fuck
quasi valley
ping is ping
pulsar wigeon
you think paper devs are above me or something?
my software is used more than paper
mortal zinc
well why are you so disgusted by pings?
pulsar wigeon
lmfao
heady spear
he minds getting pinged by intellectualsites developers, clearly superior people
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heady spear
so surely he would mind getting pinged by z and the other nerds
mortal zinc
so he treats all of us as peons
quasi valley
wiz the godly creature 🥔
mortal zinc
well then who is he?
pulsar wigeon
amazingly relevant actually
i feel like leaving work early and becoming a potato
it's such a nice day today
peak kite
a whole or sliced?
pulsar wigeon
and i'm in the basement setting up some servers
mortal zinc
and what software do you mean, that gets used more than paper?
quasi valley
maybe youve heard of it
mortal zinc
oh
heady spear
or at least takes credit for it
quasi valley
its some small software
mortal zinc
you mean World Edit
peak kite
i think that says udonttouch
heady spear
lol sk89q is my favorite minecraft modder
pulsar wigeon
k just counted, i have 36 people blocked atm
8 of them are notable or above on this discord
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notable or above 
mortal zinc
so why detest pings so much, they distract you from other things?
or it's just really annoying to have to deal with people
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distract him from the exceptions
peak kite
pings are reserved for elite.
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heady spear
wiz detests them because he's so bloody cute that everyone keeps on pinging him and all he ever sees in life are those red notifications
peak kite
Ooops.. 1337
heady spear
I actually have a huge crush on wiz but that's a secret
heady spear
I want him to worldedit himself into my life
peak kite
you better back it up first...
heady spear
Oh I'll be backing it up alright
peak kite
gettin wrekt
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Distracts him from the misplaced FAWE reports.
woven otter
wiz has ping related trauma
pulsar wigeon
matthew's bot hasn't been doing its job recently
it's supposed to automatically detect fawe in logs
woven otter
FAWE my fav
quasi valley
it's fAWESOME
woven otter
pinged wiz my fav
pulsar wigeon
you know duck i had you blocked for a few days
but i unblocked you cuz it's more fun to see your reactions when i talk about how delicious duck is
shell vine
howdy
woven otter
wow that's really mean
vestal jasper
mmm cooked duck
woven otter
next u know is ur cooked
vestal jasper
is that even English
heady spear
FAWE is broken and I have no expectations of it ever being usable in production again
vestal jasper
what's FAWE?
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That question is dangerous
peak kite
whats English?
heady spear
kinda same about plotsquared tbh but I kinda have to pretend to still care about that pos
woven otter
FAWE is broken? 
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FAWE is the all amazing multithreaded minecraft we strive to achieve but can't reach.
peak kite
just multithread the mobs and you can go on vacation.
pulsar wigeon
FAWE is short for Fast Async World Exception
heady spear
that's my joke
pulsar wigeon
that's all you need to know about it
heady spear
don't steal my joke
pulsar wigeon
that statement is endorsed by a fawe dev
heady spear
there are no fawe devs
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no good fawe devs 
heady spear
well yeah no shit
matt sucks, he calls all my ps features dumb
I hope he stubs his toe
woven otter
have you considered that he might be right
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I stopped using fawe after corrupted lighting information kept crashing the world when pasting via the API.
heady spear
He is absolutely right
but he has no right to be right
because that makes it seem as if I were wrong, which is impossible
your fault for using fawe in the first place
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pulsar wigeon
i mean, that's a normal consequence of threading
woven otter
yeye city make someone else responsible for your actions
pulsar wigeon
if (File.exists("blah")) InputStream fis = new FileInputStream("blah");
perfectly allowed to throw a FileNotFoundException there
there's no guarantee that something didn't happen in between those two statements
woven otter
instead of writing proper MT code just use kotlin
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there's no guarantee you have read rights
pulsar wigeon
that's a different exception isn't it?
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pulsar wigeon
point is things can change if operations aren't atomic
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I agree.
peak kite
Didn't anyone make an emoji ide yet?
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We just didn't feel like fixing it when the bug report went ignored. lol
woven otter
pulsar wigeon
the only emoji needed are 🗡 🦆 and 🚮 tbh
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FNE is used when it can't be opened
peak kite
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as specified by the holy documentation
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mfw fne extends ioexception
pulsar wigeon
yea
hence just catch anything that could possibly go wrong
catch (FastAsyncWorldException ignored) {}
should have used that in your code nachtraben
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I did do try catches, but the issue of why is it null to begin with that I never figured out.
That I never cared to figure out.
peak kite
Now we need a meme ide so MORE oppressive countries can't use the code, easy way to enforce ITAR. (edit in MORE cause admit it, usa is oppressive, just better at hiding it)
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Cause ignoring them just caused a crap ton of lighting errors.
peak kite
"why dosen't the scud work?, "its written in meme code" DAMNIT!!!!!!!
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We built our own fork of FAWE to debug it further, but then gave up.
neat estuary
wicked remnant
I've been ghost pung, but I feel like it was about EmojIDE
peak kite
Do you think "they" realize the power of ghost ping meta data?
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
quasi valley
oh no
peak kite
Wish u were here.
cosmic gorge
Boys, oracle is asking me to log in to my oracle account before I can download the jdk
wtf
wide chasm
Yeah it does that for some versions.
woven otter
have you gone too far
shell vine
it sucks if you have slow internet, because then you have to download then upload 100mb
limber knotBOT
crack in the wall Java
merry talon
golden gust
#KotlinMasterrace
merry talon
unless its coffee
limber knotBOT
Ethnic minority stealing your car JAVA
merry talon
that kind of java solves every problem
tawdry coyote
flex seal not working? JAVA
peak kite
My plugins are mating and creating mutated offspring.
woven otter
interesting
peak kite
hmm, thats mobhunting-6.8.8 with bagofgold-2.8.1 time to update i guess. i wonder if thats intentional? so u can place a bag of gold like a head...?
Perhaps those plugins don't like a world border fill operation on a different world, while they operate.
peak kite
cosmic gorge
Everyone sit down, I gave invented a new first world problem
peak kite
DEFCON1
cosmic gorge
People at my local burger join and coffee place know me so well they start working in my order without me even having to look in their direction
peak kite
🚨
cosmic gorge
So I can't have anything other than what I've been ordering basically every day or week for the past 6 years
Sometimes I show up with more people so they have to take an order, and if I change mine I see the staff huddling up to talk about my order
peak kite
"rotating" light gif IS A JPG? those bastards....
peak kite
When you publish it, call it a memoir and they will buy it.
cosmic gorge
See this is a fun way of checking if the people I'm talking to have a modicum of general culture
limber knotBOT
I know that
Whenever I go to my favorite Shisha Bar (Like I am rn) the boss sees me coming and asks me "the same as last time?" And I answer "the same as every time" 😂
It's our thing
cosmic gorge
Oh man discord chill buddy
limber knotBOT
I mean, this place is like my second living room
cosmic gorge
Yeah I can relate to that
limber knotBOT
Been here like at least twice a week for the last 2 years
We have a streak where we were here every day for two weeks 😂
cosmic gorge
Yeah been there done that
My breakfast is invariably at my local coffee place
If I'm not there then I skipped it
cosmic gorge
It's the only luxury I have, really
Usually it's the only thing that gets me out of my house, the alternative would be to sit in front of the computer from the moment I wake up till the very moment I go to sleep
Besides I basically hold all of my business meetings there lol
limber knotBOT
Yeah ok, you work from home, I would take that opportunity too
But I have to bike the whole 5 minutes to office every day 😂
I mean, I could work from home too, like twice a week, but I rather not
limber knotBOT
Need the social interactions and separation between work programming and off time programming
Yeah, I know right
cosmic gorge
So I have this issue, I have fat stacks of cash and I'm not sure on how to invest them
wide chasm
You do programming, you don't need social interactions /s
limber knotBOT
I mean, I only moved here half a year ago, before I had to go 45min by public transportation
cosmic gorge
Oh the humanity
cosmic gorge
Seriously though I need to figure out what to do with this 28k I have just sitting there
limber knotBOT
Il spend it on hookers and er drugs and stuff
wide chasm
Could just save it, I guess?
cosmic gorge
I already have a flat, or at least half of one
limber knotBOT
I tried to buy one but didn't find anything
Saving is stupid, like just having it on your bank, since it looses value
cosmic gorge
I need to get a car soon-ish when the current one dies on me
But that might be a few more years away
wide chasm
Sure it loses value, but just spending it on something you don't need doesn't help either.
cosmic gorge
And I already have more than enough
Was thinking about buying a second hand smart for two
They're mad cheap and mad practical for this god damned medieval city
limber knotBOT
again you could giv eme it
cosmic gorge
Sure what are you giving me for it?
limber knotBOT
pets magmaguy
cosmic gorge
Oh man an internet waifu
limber knotBOT
cosmic gorge
Yep, totally worth the €€€
woven otter
you can always donate it to ducks in need of bread
limber knotBOT
^^ also a worthy cause
woven otter
yeah I believe it causes malnutrition
merry talon
magma is sounding like a real physics department thief right now
cosmic gorge
Sold to the duck hater
merry talon
if anyone here knows what I'm getting at
limber knotBOT
Woo
woven otter
Vertanzil that's a crime against ducks
limber knotBOT
Your quackers.
woven otter
no u
cosmic gorge
Yes, the physics department, well know for their studies of duck nutrition
woven otter
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ Caught rekt handed
cosmic gorge
God damn I can feel this room sapping my IQ
woven otter
well assuming you had high enough iq in the first place
merry talon
you are missing the critical information
cosmic gorge
I was studying physics when I joined now I'm finishing my masters in translation and making mc plugins
I'm objectively dumber for having joined this community
woven otter
why did you quit
cosmic gorge
They are broke
merry talon
you're just solidifying being the physics department thief
woven otter
physicists ?
cosmic gorge
Yeah
peak kite
physical asset, side move, makes perfect sense...
woven otter
unless you teach tho right?
cosmic gorge
I make way more that a uni professor and im still in uni
They get paid very poorly here
limber knotBOT
my Polish neighbours need to shut the fuck up.
cosmic gorge
Tell them you see German tanks rolling up
woven otter
imagine making more money from minecraft than being an uni professor
limber knotBOT
Il just send you and MiniDigger round to sort them
cosmic gorge
I don't make my real money from mc
woven otter
oh?
cosmic gorge
Translation business and it's going real well
At least when we're not having massive issues keeping me up for weeks at a time
Owning a business really opened my eyes to the world
I used to think people were somewhat intelligent and rational just a few years ago
Lol no
Boy was I wrong
quasi valley
and apparently yes - noone has a single clue what they are doing
like the most obvious problem is literally noone knowing how many credits we get for finishing a course
golden gust
“Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.”
― Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled
nice one cat
golden gust
I find that the statement applies well to the world as a whole, vs just programming
quasi valley
sounds about right 😂
cosmic gorge
I honestly regret making my software as accessible as I have
The level of tech literacy I get from my users is terrifyingly low
quasi valley
if you make harder to use software, you won't have as many idiots using it, yea 👀
golden gust
I just found out that it fits into a tweet \o/
quasi valley
adjusting monocle
cosmic gorge
Can't believe Twitter is still a thing
I'd say it sounds incredibly unappealing on paper but having uses it it's also unappealing in practice
quasi valley
it's mostly about what you get shoved in your face when using it
which is why facebook or snapchat, now insta are unusable
twitter is fairly nice
cosmic gorge
I think my main issue is that I fundamentally don't give a shit about what people are up to and have a massive aversion to advertisements
So Twitter is like a condensed version of things I don't want to read or see in general
quasi valley
for me it's way easier to scroll past (and not even really notice) an ad on twitter
unlike... other platforms 👀
golden gust
adblock, wooo
cosmic gorge
It's super easy when you don't use social media like I do
golden gust
Everytime I reinstall my OS, I try to cope without adblock that way I can support the lil' guy
cosmic gorge
Look at all these ads I don't get
golden gust
Some site always ends up pissing me off and making me regret that
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I pretty much just don’t use twitters website for anything but posting
Reading on third party apps is so much nicer
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does twitter ban the usage of 3rd party clients?
upper flicker
No it’s not dumbcord
cosmic gorge
What do you guys even read on Twitter in the first place
upper flicker
Though they have been getting more and more restrictive with the API
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realDonaldTrump
limber knotBOT
blonde girds with pushed up boobs oh wait thats twitch not twitter
s/girds/girls
Correction, <Vertanzil> blonde girls with pushed up boobs oh wait thats twitch not twitter
cosmic gorge
I don't even use Reddit anymore
quasi valley
reddit is only useful for memes or (game) community discussion
peak kite
why use it, its clearly full of stuff already read.
limber knotBOT
http://tinyurl.com/yy5zh42m huehuehue
void void
Everytime I reinstall my OS, I try to cope without adblock that way I can support the lil' guy
worst idea ever
ublock origin is first thing i always install on fresh firefox or chrome
limber knotBOT
!kickban Vertanzil no
quasi valley
I throw 1-2€ at a handful of people I like, but I wouldnt ever want to live without any form of adblock
limber knotBOT
humps electronicboy
void void
on my main browser i have bunch of other extensions as well
like umatrix and various tracking protection extensions
aand of course user agent spoofer
umatrix is fun - blocks most of 3rd party scripts
while it's annoying in the beginning, you'll end up whitelisting things until things start to work
quasi valley
I have a friend that just plain and simple blocks every script until he manually unblocks them for sites he uses 😂
void void
i keep tracking ones blocked of course because... they simply don't need to run imo
looks at local news site with 70 different trackers
quasi valley
not sure what the english term is, but god do I love the tax funded news that aren't allowed to have any ads or similar
so I'll never have to listen to other garbage on the radio or ads on tv/their website
peak kite
funny, many ads and bad sites won't use https they are too cheap.. so just force https for every site...
void void
now compare that to e.g https://postimees.ee (open in private tab) without adblock
quasi valley
you won't really get anything because it's only German, but here's as simple as it can get as well https://www.tagesschau.de/
quasi valley
glad I never had to endure whatever the US has to go through to get their news
peak kite
they stopped looking at the news.. no one is at the wheel.