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woven otter
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wrong

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hmm

fringe canyon
potent warren
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.kill 🅱

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

potent warren
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smh

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.kill DiscordBot

limber knotBOT
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goes bowling with DiscordBot's bloody disembodied head.

potent warren
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👀

potent warren
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Does Paper expose the Brigadier without unstable NMS reflection bullshit?

pulsar wigeon
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no

potent warren
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😦

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Is it even worth using? lmao

pulsar wigeon
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tbh even if they did expose it it would be unstable

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1.15 could roll around and mojang could entirely revamp brig

potent warren
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Last commit was 8 months ago

vestal jasper
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but they could™

potent warren
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They can't even get IO out of the main thread..

woven otter
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but what if they break it tomorrow

potent warren
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One can't expect them to touch on an 8 month old project

woven otter
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but can they break 8 month old project

vestal jasper
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I expect them to do retarded shit all of the time
And in that way I'm never surprised

void void
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inb4 removing brigadier

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or replacing nbt with json

potent warren
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lmfao

void void
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or replacing packets with nbt

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err

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with json, i mean

potent warren
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Mojangson™ - It's™ J™S™O™N™, but™ actually™ not™

void void
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damn node.js server impls would pop up like mushrooms after rain if it happened friedlmao

potent warren
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YE BOIII

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They're probably better off with CBOR

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(RFC 7049)

void void
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cbor is neat

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discovered cbor after realizing that all msgpack impls for C are shit and/or leak/corrupt memory silently

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<3 msgpack

merry talon
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DansGame msgpack

void void
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stfu is gud bitch

tacit jolt
void void
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wtf spacex pushed back 5 mins now it's back 10 mins

static badge
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wat

void void
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Starship Update - length **** - 8,505 likes, 55 dislikes (99.4%) - 4 views - SpaceX on 2019.05.16

void void
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was 6pm, now it's 6:15pm as soon as the timer hit 0

static badge
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chat is disabled

neon dagger
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Creepers are OP

quick gust
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i see some spacex fans in the chat

astral hatch
quick gust
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lmfao imagine it falls on the crowd

unreal quarry
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he stutters a lot..

void void
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he always has

unreal quarry
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i just noticed it

neon dagger
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Anyone wanna see some b4 and after pics?

azure sinew
void void
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@unreal quarry also not certain but afaik english isnt his 1st lang

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afrikaans is

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so might explain it

nocturne tide
soft ocean
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why did 1.12 support end

void void
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because it's old

pulsar wigeon
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because you're not paying for it

static badge
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not wrong tbh

void void
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good presentation overall

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understatement to say im excited to see where this goes, i mean shit...

cosmic raft
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?

void void
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spacex

peak kite
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companies charge monthly fees for their games, meanwhile a simple block program that is one time low cost, dominates. I think theres a echo in the non-subscription room. And, i wonder, now that M$ owns it, will that change also? I guess that just means moer OP for a peep to make another billion dollar one time fee game. Notice how it keeps getting updates and DLC and stuff? No cost? hmmm..

toxic ember
pulsar wigeon
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is that guy the result of throwing MCF into a Markov chain

native thunder
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Maybe it's that new text generation ai that's popular on reddit

void void
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whats mcf

vestal jasper
cosmic raft
void void
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somehow i dont think thats what it means in this context

celest coyote
vestal jasper
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nether update > cave update

patent wraith
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Yeah, I guess the sub-chunk code does make more sense for the nether then caves...

vestal jasper
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Could be useful down the line if/when they do a cave update

static badge
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holy shit KFC dating sim

vestal jasper
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it's the early 2000s all over again

soft wing
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Oh god.

void void
celest coyote
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lol

void void
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im guessing he thinks virus means error message

merry talon
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so I'm staying at a relative's apartment and it's absolutely frigid in here

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but I can't find a thermostat

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how does heating work in apartments??

void void
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either there is none or there is a thermostat

merry talon
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there can't be none by law and there is no thermostat

cosmic raft
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or there is and you are blind

merry talon
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but WHERE

cosmic raft
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have you checked all the walls?

vestal jasper
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have you tried asking them?

merry talon
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..no I've only checked the ceiling

cosmic raft
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ok

static badge
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check the floors too

merry talon
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found a networking closet with an unused fiber hookup

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that's sad

static badge
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a light

merry talon
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it can't be

patent wraith
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Don't press it.

static badge
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find the switch for it

merry talon
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there's cool air coming out of it

static badge
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oh yeah that's definitely a light

merry talon
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there is a ceiling light right next to it

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and there is a switch that does nothing

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who designed this place

vestal jasper
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looks like a light to me

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look at the area around it

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the immediate area is well lit

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and the area around that is dimmer

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100% a light

merry talon
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that's from my flash you walnut

vestal jasper
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the flash from the light in the wall

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yes

static badge
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mfw calling vic half of your braincells

merry talon
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turns out there are multiple dial thermostats that just control baseboard heaters

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at home I have one of those and it's for some humidity bullshit that doesn't work

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so I disregarded them

neon dagger
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Hopefully updating from 1.14 -> 1.16 won't be painful.

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That feel of being forced to run like a version behind just because you want to actually have plugins.

void void
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1.16 you say

viral hornet
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Goats when

neon dagger
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1.16 because that's the Nether update... I don't really care about 1.15 tbh. ^^;

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Will still have to update to it but I don't think it'll be as bad as 1.16 as afaik 1.15 doesn't add too much.

dusk drift
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I don't really care about 1.15 tbh

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Have fun running a 14 server with good performance

neon dagger
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Like I said I'll update to it when the time comes, I'm just not as hyped for it as 1.16...

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I phrased it wrong. ^^;

void void
void void
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nether update you say?

dapper nacelle
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In 1.16

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1.15 is the bees and the bugs update

woven otter
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Have fun running a 14 server with good performance
you're assuming performance will be fixed

dapper nacelle
limber knotBOT
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@void void phoenix616 the spacex event was planned in advance that far because yesterday 11 years ago was the first falcon 1 launch

limber knotBOT
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I see

soft thorn
limber knotBOT
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it's b etter than it was when the first 1.14 versions were released, it's still not as good as 1.13 or even 1.12

unique mortar
compact pulsar
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You guys what do you think about the upcoming The Nether Update?

dusk drift
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Only looking forward to the new pigmen and the beasts

quasi valley
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hopefully 1.16 will include the combat stuff, if not already 1.15 👀

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but the nether changes look nice, too

limber knotBOT
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remind me, if a buyer charges back via bank, do you still get 20$ fee even if you accept fault and refund the buyer?

grim flare
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has there been any talk about when async chunk loading will be added back in?

limber knotBOT
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never

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it's already in

amber tinsel
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Noticed a big increase in those message after updating to the lastest build. Going do some timings to see what plugins are beinig a jerk.

grim flare
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async chunk generation was added

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but was async chunk loading in general added?

hot gorge
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Async loading was added by paper

grim flare
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and then it broke in 1.14

hot gorge
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And re added in 1.14.4....

grim flare
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I seen the merg for async chunk generation

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but not loading.

limber knotBOT
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it's litereally in the PR title

hot gorge
grim flare
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they added the placeholder api

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but not the logic

hot gorge
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It says "IO and loading"

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I have no idea what you're talking about

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loading was adding in build 185 or something

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By leafe

limber knotBOT
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it's litereally in there

neon dagger
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So what client are people who talk through a bot use?

hot gorge
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irc

neon dagger
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As I suspected!

hot gorge
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async loading added in #173

limber knotBOT
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calling IRC a client

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Kappa

celest coyote
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its literally in the name

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Internet Relay Client

limber knotBOT
pulsar wigeon
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🎣

neon dagger
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I thought it was... Internet Relay Chat.

hot gorge
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It is

grim flare
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i found a mistake on the website that needs to be fixed

cosmic raft
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and what is the mistake?

neon dagger
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Looks fine to me, even in that screenshot.

pulsar wigeon
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it should say "It's retarded fast." in honor of leaf

quasi valley
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I guess it should be "stupidly fast" but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hot gorge
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Or perhaps doot is being a dick and saying paper isn't fast.

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Based on previous interactions that's not a stretch

cosmic raft
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lol, NPC in RuneScape

small linden
burnt hollow
neon dagger
limber knotBOT
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yes, there's also a free clock

rancid fern
potent warren
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Hmmmm does Minecraft still send the player's locale to the server?

golden gust
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yes

potent warren
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hmmmm

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ood

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where is it getting the info from?

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The user's computer

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or the game itself

golden gust
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the games setting

potent warren
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Weird.

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I just changed it and logged out and back in and the setting stays the same

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It's giving me en_us on join

limber knotBOT
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where?

potent warren
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I'm fetching the info on PlayerJoinEvent. Player#getLocale

limber knotBOT
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the packet will only get send after the join

potent warren
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oooh

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;-;

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Thanks xD

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^-^

limber knotBOT
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usually you don't need that though, just use Player#getLocale or whatever it's called

potent warren
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I'm using that

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but I'm creating an object that holds that information when the player joins

limber knotBOT
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yeah, uh, I mean don't use it in the join event xD

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and why store it? 🤔 just use Player#getLocale xD

potent warren
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oof

limber knotBOT
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also you'll have to handle the change too so you could just use the locale change event directly ¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent warren
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I'll just shortcircuit the method to use getLocale

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Thanks a lot!

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😄

supple rain
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Hi, Im very new to Paper. My question is simple: How do I make mobs spawn and crops grow outside of the 128 block radius? I am on 1.14.4. I really want the same mechanics as in 1.13, so that I can keep the farms running, while not inside the radius or the chunks.

Thanks for the help

limber knotBOT
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without actually loading the chunks they wont grow or spawn anything in it

supple rain
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Yeah, but cant I use a plugin for that?

quasi valley
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Isn’t there a vanilla command for keeping chunks loaded?

supple rain
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yes, but crops and mobs wont do anything

limber knotBOT
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well you can do a lot with plugins but that one would be pretty complex without actually keeping chunks loaded and removing stuff like despawn radiuses

supple rain
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I have no problem with keeping the chunks loaded

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I can do that with the /forceload command

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But how do I make mobs spawn, and crops grow, when Im outside the 128 block radius?

limber knotBOT
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increase the radiuses to some insane amounts

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
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you won't be able to do that without extreme lags though

quasi valley
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You might get away with a plugin loading a specific list of chunks and keeping them loaded, but doing that for all chunks with crops would be... meh

supple rain
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I would only do it for the farms, I think I could get away with the lag

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Any suggestions for plugins that could do that?

limber knotBOT
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any chunk loader plugin I would assume

void void
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ma bros what do you think

neon dagger
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Is it a good idea to have a separate world for spawn with stuff like chunk saving and ticks disabled if you're using multiverse any way?

void void
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should the hub style be the same like other servers?

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for example skyblock and survival spawn should be the same style as hub?

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idk use style what you like

void void
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but should be the same on every spawn

neon dagger
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Any anti cheat suggestions for a person who's kinda new to hosting a minecraft server?

limber knotBOT
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just use NoCheatPlus

neon dagger
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It's not been updated since last year, however there's a paid fork that has been updated...

void void
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but should be the same on every spawn

limber knotBOT
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just use the public fork

void void
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you're the server owner

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you decide lmao

limber knotBOT
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no idea what you mean by "paid fork" lmao

void void
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your audience, your server, your player count...

limber knotBOT
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don't trust any mc-market stuff, lol

void void
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and revenue, perhaps?

limber knotBOT
neon dagger
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Way ahead of you on that one.

pulsar wigeon
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minor nitpick, that view is not new at all

limber knotBOT
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uh, I guess the one from the mc market link actoually is open source and on github so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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nobody claimed it was new? lol

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microsoft hid it a bit better though :(

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previously you would get that when clicking the number besides forks, when microsoft took over they changed it to only list the forks and not show the network. I guess to save money xD

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can't belive they allow open source resources without linking to the source code on mc market...

pulsar wigeon
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oh tf

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i totally misread that i guess

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brain inserting random words

neon dagger
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Yeah I found that really strange too, phoenix. Wasn't expecting it to also see it on Github.

limber knotBOT
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well I guess it's fine, open source doesn't mean freely available. it just seems scammy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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gotta like how his fork contains the code of multiple other forks

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and that he probably violates the license by not mentioneing anywhere that it's licensed under GPLv3

neon dagger
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I'll try the xaw3ep one as I'm skeptical of MarkElf.

limber knotBOT
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I mean his additions might actually be good ¯_(ツ)_/¯ just build it from source instead of buying it I guess xD

neon dagger
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Not to mention that MarkElf doesn't really have a compiled release either. ...and I wanna be lazy.

limber knotBOT
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licenses are about as much use as a rape whistle mid coitus

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unfortunately we still have the concept of copyright and ownership

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shame no one every listens to them.

peak kite
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github is really loose on what they enforce. obfuscating code to the nth degree and then putting it up on github as free, but then run a page on spigotmc charging $ for the dev version. So you can use code from others and still charge for it.

limber knotBOT
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until someone notices it and the user gets banned, yes

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unfortunatly its the same cancerous system

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Does paper actually check uploads unlike spigot

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paper has uploads?

peak kite
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i meant spigotmc not papermc

limber knotBOT
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Oh

pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
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"A large amount of Sandbox runs asynchronously to improve performance for key areas." rip

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sounds like Spout 2.0 tbh

pulsar wigeon
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it runs on the fabric loader...

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with "planned support" for forge and sponge

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???

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also god the amount of emoji in commit messages

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🤢

limber knotBOT
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alsmo > mfw LGPL license ;_;

pulsar wigeon
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MIT api

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LGPL impl

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what does fabric use

limber knotBOT
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apache 2.0

indigo galleon
pulsar wigeon
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huh, lgpl is an odd choice then

limber knotBOT
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I mean it is because it's not gpl

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runs

woven otter
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oh no what is this

cosmic raft
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it's got stuff copied from vanilla too

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nice

placid thicket
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updating to 200, expecting at least 3 reports that 0tick farms stopped working lol

peak kite
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Is it normal that dynmap would drop to 30% cpu use MAX during fullrendering when using mysql as the storage? During server start, the cpu goes to 100% so java IS using it when it wants.... With flat file, 100% cpu gets used during render. Or it used to. Its hard to say if its flat file or due to code changes in the last 6 months. I guess i need to re-test.

dull crypt
void void
limber knotBOT
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woo, implemented brigadier into my server

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man that was a PITA

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thats what a sunday worth of work looks like 😂

cosmic raft
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your server?

limber knotBOT
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ye

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started implementing a mc server from scratch last weekend

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which quickly evolved into also writing a client

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altho that supports only doing a server list ping

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this is my first time dealing with netty or anything more low level than http, so am quite proud 😂

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or well, no, thats a lie, i think i did implement my own socket based string protocol for bungee<->spigot communication before, but that was a mess and didn't use netty or any real pipeline

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I decided to port ACF to MiniCraft since thats way easier to deal with than brigadier itself

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and then just added brigadier support to ACF (which I started before but never finished)

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it uses your text and nbt libs btw ^^

woven otter
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oh shit that's nice

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oh I already starred your repo

limber knotBOT
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Is this IRC active?

olive garden
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no, yours is the first message in like a year

limber knotBOT
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ignore Trigary

pulsar wigeon
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!stats

limber knotBOT
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Uptime: 18 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes, 15 seconds
Message Handling: 5ms / 1ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 1673 (6%)
Messages from Discord: 24721 (94%)

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rip

olive garden
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stats can be fabricated, don't believe him

limber knotBOT
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the only thing these stats tell me is that I should spam more

void void
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wtf is that fucking sandbox thing...

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i dont know who any of these people are, either

teal thistle
limber knotBOT
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oh that's pretty fucking gay

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the IRC and Discord is bound together

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yes because everyone is on discord

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almost

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how did that happen anyway?

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regardless, we value the discussion over "reee muh preferred chat system"

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of course

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gen: marketing

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chinese money can buy you lots of users nowadays

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Kek

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just sucks that people today would rather sell all their personal info for a shiny UI and funny marketing

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we like to keep irc for the more...how might you say....more discerning consumer.

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yeah in that sense it's nice

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seperates the worst of the worst

void void
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but im still in discord so ligma balls

limber knotBOT
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10/10

neon dagger
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I actually really like IRC, but sadly most of my friends use Discord and bridges are pretty uncommon.

void void
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waiting for muh response

void void
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"standard"

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fuck off w/ that shit

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it's disgusting

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fight me

spice edge
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thats your opinion

void void
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lmao @cosmic raft

cosmic raft
halcyon plume
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We use it at work, and a bunch of our clients use it; seems to just be an easier way to skim over a set of commits and see what they're about
Plus, it kinda forces you to not have monolithic commits

limber knotBOT
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anyone who uses emojis in texts email and comits needs shooting.

void void
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lmao bs, doesn't force you. You know what makes you not have monolithic commits?

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not being a retard

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that's what

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because your commits are littered with emojis and i've puked 3 times now

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im going to die

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from fluid loss

limber knotBOT
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sounds like you should just drink more water

void void
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water

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water is for plebs, z

limber knotBOT
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Petrol

vestal jasper
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Simple is opinionated about everything

limber knotBOT
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drink that

void void
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Vic is a tard

vestal jasper
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If you tell him purple is the best color he'll probably threaten to stab you to death

void void
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not only threaten

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:^)

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watch ur back Vic

spice edge
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purple's a pretty good colour tbf

vestal jasper
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purple is the best color btw

limber knotBOT
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Im sure prplz would agree

vestal jasper
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oh right time to change my name back

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since leaf gave up on the meme day 2

void void
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contrary to popular belief prplz is not actually purple

vestal jasper
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contributor is purple though

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prplz just has to contribute

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ez

void void
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am not talking about discord ranks u victard

vestal jasper
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ok

void void
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wait ok @spice edge are u tellin me that you actually go through the emoji guide and manually choose an emoji for each commit, wasting precious development time just to add pictures to your commits

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or is there some automated thing that places one

spice edge
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no we have this amazing thing called a memory

void void
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oh ok so it's manual

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nice

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im losing faith in developerkind

spice edge
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some of us use memory

vestal jasper
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so instead of devoting time into learning how to make proper commits

void void
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wtf 😱

vestal jasper
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you devote time into memorizing a set of emojis and what they mean

void void
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that completely changes how you make commits

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jfc

static badge
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OMEGALUL emojis

void void
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gitmoji cli

limber knotBOT
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I dont really agree with it but apparently it makes everyone super upset for no reason

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so apparently I need to start using it

void void
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yes, i know, that's not what im commenting on

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z i will literally find you

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and suicide you with 3 shots to the back of the head

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im sorry to hear you went through a hard time

limber knotBOT
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eww, node

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the real crime is there is no 🌮 in it

static badge
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sounds like a good thing

limber knotBOT
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if thats really how you feel you should start using it

void void
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Yeah, ok

limber knotBOT
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also no 💩

spice edge
static badge
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no I feel that way about the absence of a taco emoji kappa

void void
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It really helps tell what a commit is about, helps you stop writing monolithic commits!

neon dagger
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🚀 tear

upper flicker
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The only 💩 is your commit messags leaf

static badge
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commit messags

upper flicker
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hasStarte

static badge
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mfw that's the only misspell u got on me

upper flicker
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there's more dont you worry

pulsar wigeon
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hey you know what's a great way to tag commit messages without ambiguous, non-standard, partially adopted images posing as text?

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actual fucking text

upper flicker
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nice pivot though

void void
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yes wiz

static badge
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show em if u got em kappa

peak kite
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debug output: 100% emoji

pulsar wigeon
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imagine trying to remember what some random-ass emoji means in the context of a commit message. the only emoji you need is 🚮

tawdry coyote
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petition to add lefbad to all of leaf's commits

static badge
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no u

void void
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"oh sowwwwwwy gitmoji dont suppowt dat"

peak dirge
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@static badge I've still gotta find out why Canyon is having persistently low TPS, though...

static badge
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bet you mojang snuck streams into b1.7.3

upper flicker
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1.7.3 wasnt java 8

static badge
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no really kappa

peak dirge
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Java 5 😂

upper flicker
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upgrade #1: non-cancerous generics

static badge
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5 Kreygasm

peak dirge
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"but at least there's ConcurrentHashMap"

upper flicker
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write it with 11 just to annoy the randoms

void void
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tom scott's "basics" videos sometimes trigger me beyond words can describe

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"Things You Might Not Know: YouTube doesn't know your password"

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Really, Tom

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Tell me more

upper flicker
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Vast majority of the populace would absolutely consider that basic

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if not witchcraft

peak dirge
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And thus, a waterboarded definition of the term "password hashing" commences.

void void
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I didn't say it wasnt basic, I was commenting on the fact that there are actually people that exist which think that passwords are stored cleartext and even holding that flawed assumption would assume their password is secure at all 😢

upper flicker
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its secure because they mail it to you

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and its illegal to tamper with the mail

void void
modest wagon
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but is crime illegal

static badge
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no

limber knotBOT
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The government mails identification documents to you under the assumption no one will tamper with the mail

upper flicker
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cant find the tweet, I was mostly memeing about some horrible company's plaintext storage excuse

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that assumption is spooky too though

void void
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oh god seriously

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i thought you were just joking

upper flicker
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no

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some cellular company

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will keep looking

void void
#

holy fuck

quasi valley
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There’s a few of them

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Not even small ones

autumn fern
upper flicker
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found it

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thread has context

static badge
void void
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Holy....

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Fuck.

tawdry coyote
#

how secure is mail anyway, ofc there are people that will just steal packages. But I assume mailing passwords would be via UPS then into your mail-box, and besides human-fuck-up misplacing the mail. How likely is it that your mail will be tampered with

void void
#

Lol mail that is "heavy" (feels like coins or money) will get tampered with hellaciously often

upper flicker
#

most just letters and stuff dont tend to

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but thats not because they cant be, just because its not usually worth the time

#

its still really really horrible to be using them for confidential communication

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and then you still have the issue of them keeping your password in plaintext in a db somewhere

#

thats the real story, the mail thing is just the dumb on top

void void
#

yeah, for real.

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i mean, holy fuck

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oh god

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i thought this was old

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this is 2019?!

vestal jasper
#

inb4 in 3 days
"Virgin Media database leaked! Is your password in it???"

limber knotBOT
#

did they really have a leak

#

anyone interested in a plugin to make certain makes non-copyable? xD

vestal jasper
#

"inb4"

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as in

limber knotBOT
#

Oh i just saw virgin media datbase leak

void void
#

certain what phoenix

limber knotBOT
#

*maps lol

vestal jasper
#

A company admitting to storing plaintext passwords at that moment would probably entice some people to try to leak it

limber knotBOT
#

indeed

#

I mean if they can get sony and other big companies its just a matter of time.

vestal jasper
#

Yeah

void void
#

a look inside virgin's authentication code

if (givenPassword == storedPassword) {
  return SUCCESS;
}

return FAILED;
vestal jasper
#

I mean you could probably ask them nicely for db access and if you gave them the right email they'd do it LUL

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) I'm working on an optimized CraftBukkit Beta 1.7.3 derivative : GoldenAgeMinecraft - 0 comments, 1 point - tuxed, 3m ago

void void
#

the fucking NEW YORKER

#

the guardian nice

#

telltalegames

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fucking hell

#

im done

vestal jasper
#

club penguin

heady spear
#

I store my nudes in plaintext

vestal jasper
#

who'd want that though

limber knotBOT
#

NO one wants to see your ugly ass.

heady spear
#

my ass isn't ugly

#

it's pretty 😦 my dad told me so

limber knotBOT
#

Was that while he was fucking you or after.

heady spear
#

during coitus

void void
#

your dad or your daddy

heady spear
#

do they have to be different people?

limber knotBOT
#

and on that incestuous note i am off to bed.

void void
supple rain
#

Any way to increase the 128 block limit of mob spawns? If I load a chunk far away, nothing spawns there....

quasi valley
#

You already got a fair share of answers to that if I’m not mistaken?

supple rain
#

I dont think so, I just got a suggestion to load the chunks

#

But that wont help

void void
#

how will that not help.

supple rain
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Becouse 1.14 has a limit. If you are futher away than 128 blocks, mobs wont spawn

quasi valley
#

You got all the info you need: it’s not feasible to do it without loading the chunks, and loading the chunks won’t be the best thing

#

So no

void void
#

erm...have..you increased the value in paper.yml...?

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im gonna take that as a no

#

then no shit there's a limit

supple rain
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I increased the mob-spawn-range yes

void void
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is it a hard limit in nms then

#

if so then you can't do anything

hazy pivot
woven otter
#

phoenix616: does it actually work though

peak dirge
#

Hmm... I am going to try booting up Canyon on a Linux VPS

#

Same plan, but different node...

limber knotBOT
#

what?

ancient bolt
#

USB 3's shitty versioning scheme makes it impossible to find USB 3.2 gen2x2 hubs...

peak dirge
#

Yep. It's better on the Linux VM -_-

ancient bolt
#

searching for USB 3 20gbps also doesn't bring anything up

cosmic raft
#

"shitty" is putting it lightly, DW

ancient bolt
#

Guess I should just look for thunderbolt 3 instead

#

I have that in my desktop too, might as well use it for this purpose

#

seems like every thunderbolt 3 hub wants to have all the ports

#

I just want a thunderbolt 3 -> USB 3.2 hub

#

amazon equates thunderbolt 3 to USB C

#

not helpful

void void
#

what what are you looking for

ancient bolt
#

...

void void
#

ah > USB 3.2 gen2x2 hubs

#

for your macbook or wat

ancient bolt
#

I have the ports on my desktop, actually quite a lot of them, one of the reasons I bought this motherboard

#

but they're in the back and hard to reach, would like some high speed ports in a more convenient spot

void void
#

i c i c

ancient bolt
#

I need to backup my macbook and take it into the apple store to get the keyboard fixed, and hopefully some new thunderbolt ports too

#

I assume they'll have the computer for like 2 weeks to do that super simple repair lol

limber knotBOT
#

thunderbird 3 (non-optical) is the superset of all other USB-C standards, afaik

#

If the cable/port supports that it should support everything

ancient bolt
#

yes

#

that doesn't mean thunderbolt 3 is USB C

limber knotBOT
#

No but it is USB 4 :D

ancient bolt
#

also a 5gbps USB C port is very much not thunderbolt 3

limber knotBOT
#

You just did the "a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square" thing on me

#

I said the opposite of what you did

void void
#

Ive gotten a kitpvp plugin, now i want to setup a way to make it so people get teleported to the arena... how??

ancient bolt
#

I don't follow what you're saying

#

unless you were simply agreeing with me in a weird way

limber knotBOT
#

You're looking for a cable you're sure will do what you need, right?

#

I was just saying a thunderbolt 3 cable that isn't optical will do everything USB-C can do

ancient bolt
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I'm saying I have a thunderbolt 3 port

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And I was looking for a hub, which complicates things

limber knotBOT
#

I didn't think anything supported USB 3.2 20Gbps yet

ancient bolt
#

yeah I haven't seen it much, but it seems 10Gbps is also hard to find

limber knotBOT
#

Hell even thunderbolt -> USB 3.1 10Gbps hubs cost like $300 still too

ancient bolt
#

It's all due to the failure of USB 3's naming scheme

limber knotBOT
#

2 10Gbps ports, 2 5Gbps ports

ancient bolt
#

everyone just sells "USB 3" at 5Gbps and calls it day, cheapest solution available since 99% of people doesn't know the difference

void void
#

the one startech i bought came doa

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refunded, went with plugable

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no regrets

hot gorge
#

Demon, they won't even fix the ports. They just replace the entire motherboard.

ancient bolt
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why would they do that? the thunderbolt ports on MBPs are 2 separate boards

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specifically so they can be easily replaced

void void
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bc apple

ancient bolt
#

full motherboard replacement would cost a lot of money and I'm not going to be spending that much

void void
#

dont let them scamazz u into it

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"ya this isnt fixable gonna need a full replacement"

limber knotBOT
#

Not sure why that's so much cheaper, it seems to be better than the other one I linked

ancient bolt
#

I mean, I'm specifically going to the apple store to make sure I don't ruin my warranty as long as it's cheap

#

I used to do cell phone repair, I can easily fix this shit myself if they try and bullshit me

limber knotBOT
#

Unless their new security chip reads a new serial number on the thunderbolt board and tells you to fuck off

ancient bolt
#

oof that's a possibility too maybe

hot gorge
#

My buddy had a bad tb3 port and apple replaced the whole motherboard

limber knotBOT
#

Pretty sure they do that for displays and keyboards, not sure about the rest

limber knotBOT
#

I thought displays and keyboards were the only bits you could replace these days

#

Well, I guess the battery too

ancient bolt
#

fuck I might just order this, $35 is not a bad price

limber knotBOT
#

Ah yeah that's just a... fuck I forgot that name but it's like that bank of ports on your desktop front panel

ancient bolt
#

Oh yeah I know what you mean, forgot the name too

peak dirge
#

Oh my lord. Beta 1.7.3 has a bunch of terrible hashCode implementations

#

I allowed ChunkCoordIntPair to generate negative hash codes and that semeed to help

limber knotBOT
#

breakout board?

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Yeah that's the name

hot gorge
#

Technically it's a daughter board, no?

void void
#

ur a daughter board

hot gorge
#

Oh simple

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I was going to tell you the other day

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Get fucked.

#

void void
hot gorge
#

Lol

stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
#

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toxic ember
#

anyone here know how to read timing reports

void void
#

.ask

limber knotBOT
#

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

void void
#

nice name, too

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-.-

toxic ember
#

thank you

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🙂

#

i am having strange dips

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can't seem to figure out the cause

void void
#

looks like pillagers and villagers maybe a raid started and they got out of control

#

do you have the villager optimizer and limitpillagers plugins

toxic ember
#

i have villager optimizer

void void
#

get limitpillagers

toxic ember
#

ok

limber knotBOT
#

To the extent the deep state exists at all, it's someone with the title "administrative specialist III" who says that they can't do this because policy says they need form 327 signed by the division director before they can authorize it.

placid thicket
#

everyone excited for 1.15 in 87 days or less?

dusk drift
#

Only if they add performance fixes

placid thicket
#

there have been a fair few already

limber knotBOT
#

What did they say it'll be out before the end of the year?

#

If so assume it'll be November, iirc they go on holiday pretty much the entire month of December

static badge
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haven't paid big attention to the snapshots

#

did they finally get fucking io off the main thread?

limber knotBOT
#

Didn't they do that in 1.14?

static badge
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they put io on main in 1.14

limber knotBOT
#

Except for world.dat and player data files

placid thicket
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couldn't tell you. i can tell you that they plan to release before Christmas

limber knotBOT
#

wat

static badge
#

yes they moved chunk IO to main in 1.14

placid thicket
#

y tho

static badge
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they needed to nuke their current handling since they introduced POI data

limber knotBOT
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I thought 1.14 was the one that moved half of worldgen off the main thread

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Oh

static badge
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I don't think they had the time to add a system to get it off main

limber knotBOT
#

So this is just structure data again?

placid thicket
#

who TF waited for me to update to 200 this morning then push 5 more versions! i want a manager!

static badge
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POI data is just POI really, they just moved POI into separate region files

dapper nacelle
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I spent the whole day coding in php

limber knotBOT
#

POI = structure?

static badge
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point of interest

limber knotBOT
#

So they made it better but it's still on the main thread?

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Yeah, but I don't understand what it means

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They already had structure data to say where the nether fortress was or where the stronghold was

placid thicket
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a poi is litterally anything of intrest that you can use /locate on

static badge
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they moved point of interest (location for things iirc) into their own regionfiles so that when they want that data they don't need to load chunk data presumably

limber knotBOT
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Oh, it's a custom thing? I don't get it

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Give me a wiki link or something, you're not explaining this well :P

static badge
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yeah gimme a moment

limber knotBOT
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Oh it's village crap

static badge
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yeah it's locations for villages

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also used for noting the exists of portals

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in snapshots at least

limber knotBOT
#

Village data already wasn't in the region files

static badge
#

idk where it was previously

limber knotBOT
#

Although it was in one giant file same as structure data was/is

static badge
#

yeah they probably didn't want to load it all

limber knotBOT
#
Minecraft Wiki

The villages.dat file located in the data folder of every Minecraft level is used to store information about the villages in the level. It is stored as a GZip'd NBT file.
Additional files villages_nether.dat and villages_end.dat are stored, allowing for villages in other dime...

static badge
#

there was some dumb perf issues when you had a lot of villages

limber knotBOT
#

Yeah, iirc it did some logic on them every tick even if the chunks for them weren't loaded

#

Because the village was because they all were

static badge
#

yeah

limber knotBOT
#

But when they did their big overhaul on villages the per-village data size exploded so even if they weren't working about ticking just loading all the data was getting dumb

wise magnet
cosmic raft
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112936245778247189196169582343294725093287246474244152053577378933299162464047451757267358462358904284129232593390149673

winter sundial
#

thank you kashike, very cool

cosmic raft
#

😉

potent warren
#

Wasn't there a plugin for Bungee that allowed people to create "virtual" servers from templates dynamically?

#

I forgot the name

void void
#

subservers?

potent warren
#

Yes! Thank you. 👍

peak dirge
#

Yeah... I'm just going to switch the server over to Linux instead. Sorry FreeBSD, I love you, but Minecraft hates you.

static badge
#

FreeB OMEGALUL D

minor iron
#

What Linux distro?

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Deb based?

peak dirge
#

yes, I'm using Debian 10

unreal quarry
#

pops in and clears throat

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you know, I use Debian, too

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^_^

void void
#

ice

#

nice

peak dirge
#

yeah... it was ticking a fixed distance from the player for chunk ticks

#

so I fixed it so that it's based on view distance, which means if you lower the view-distance you get less lag as intended

static badge
#

1.14 does that

void void
#

thats just weird, it clearly has a view distance setting so why would they not have used it there

peak dirge
#

it only controls the amount of chunks it sends to the player

static badge
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in that it will only tick chunks at a range of 8

peak dirge
#

Anyway, that was fun

void void
#

Hey boys, who's a good hoster for a minecraft dedi? Like if you're running a modpack, I need a beefy one

ancient bolt
#

OVH is usual goto

void void
#

by hoster im assuming you mean shared host in which case my answer is turn back and reevaluate

#

oh

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im retarded lmfao

#

dedi

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yes ovh

ancient bolt
#

i should make a minecraft panel

static badge
#

demonpanel

ancient bolt
#

panel.wav

cosmic raft
#

Wavel

upper flicker
#

Just dont fuck up the console

ancient bolt
#

that will be the only thing it has

upper flicker
#

apparently that alone would put you ahead

ancient bolt
#

a console that's reversed

upper flicker
#

make sure to break all the fancy features like formatting

ancient bolt
#

you'd have to pay for a proper console

upper flicker
#

oh and randomly strip shit out of timings urls

ancient bolt
#

shit man I'd be rich

#

also it would auto-report issues to paper whenever the panel crashes

vestal jasper
#

intentionally causes crashes

upper flicker
#

flips the isRemote boolean in the server

ancient bolt
#

okay but seriously why do I do this to myself

vestal jasper
#

yes

upper flicker
#

to remind yourself how much better your filesystem is than those dumb mainstream os defaults

static badge
#

which paper is paper kappa

vestal jasper
#

yes

peak kite
#

doubling up, and then doubling again on the cpu threads in dynmap works... kinda.. 16, then 32, now im at 64 threads for 17 REAL cores just to get about a 10% improvement. very odd, dynmap renderer total cpu use still throttled? at 40-50%.

void void
#

Reason I asked about a dedi

#

Is because I'm deadass gonna try to open a RLCraft server

#

See how fast that shit burns down

#

k

ancient bolt
#

"Synchronize" was renamed to "Reload from Disk" in intellij 2019.3 apparently

#

which is good

void void
#

So @ancient bolt , what'd you mean about the console, or was that not directed at me.

ancient bolt
#

uh wasn't directed at you

void void
#

kk

#

Do you think OVH's base game server will even be able to run RLCraft?

#

It's sooooo intensive

#

it seriously depends on more than just the mods

#

it probably will, depending on what you mean by base

#

need specs

native thunder
#

RLCraft is actually surprisingly easy to run

#

You just need pregen a large areq

#

Because chunk generation is fucking murder on that pack

void void
#

I noticed that

#

Any reccomendations on prerendering?

native thunder
#

I play with about 5 players and we have no issues after the pregen

#

There's a pregen mod

void void
#

I feel like there has to be a way to pre/render the world

#

Could you link me to it?

native thunder
#

Pregen before you have players

#

Because certain structures straight up just freeze the server for a good minute while it generates

#

And that's a horrible experience

void void
#

Noted

#

pregenning is good advice in general

#

always do dat

#

Yeah yuh yuh

peak kite
#

Dynmap: parallelrendercnt: 500 did the trick. 90% cpu use, thermal throttling.

#

So i guess the note about not using more than the true cores available is now different for new version of java? or something.

shell vine
#

chunk loading is just horrible for modpacks

peak kite
#

the server is waiting on these chunks, wheres the nuke wait chunk option?

static badge
#

we would never implement something so dumb

peak kite
#

lol

#

WHOLY WORLD!

vestal jasper
#

Are scoreboard "below name" objectives retarded on 1.12

#

shit doesn't render if you're 9 or more blocks away thonk

raw apex
vestal jasper
#
Shows the <Score> followed by the objective's <DisplayName> below the player's nametag above their head. This is hidden beyond ~10 blocks and when the player is sneaking.```
#

oh that's fucking dumb

#

time to make a fabric mod to extend this

merry talon
#

good ol' 7 eleven pizza

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aged with hints of oven cleaner

cosmic raft
#

all this writing is hurting my hand

void void
#

@cosmic raft relax your grip and stop bending your wrist into an awkward position and sit up straight

#

it will help trust

cosmic raft
#

easier said than done

static badge
#

easier done than said

cosmic raft
#

I've been writing important things @void void

void void
#

important things deserve good posture @cosmic raft

static badge
#

"How to attract Justin Bieber - Kashike"

void void
#

what the fuck are you doing

static badge
#

holy shit wtf is that

cosmic raft
#

something.

void void
#

I am having trust issues.

static badge
#

evidently

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is that how many braincells I have

cosmic raft
#

why trust issues @void void

void void
#

im not getting straight answers from u

cosmic raft
#

I felt the need to write pages of numbers.

vestal jasper
#

this a retarded form of minesweeper

cosmic raft
#

is that a better answer @void void

static badge
#

no

#

it doesn't answer the why

void void
#

i believe he was talking to me u stupid leaf

#

anyway @cosmic raft

#

no

#

it doesn't answer the why

#

Reccomendations for dedi's hosted in cali?

cosmic raft
#

I felt the need to write pages of numbers.

void void
#

@cosmic raft PERO BAKIT

cosmic raft
#

what

void void
#

translate

cosmic raft
#

.g perk bakit

limber knotBOT
void void
#

.tr tl en pero bakit

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) The Translate API is off in the Google Developers Console.

void void
#

nice

cosmic raft
#

what does it mean

void void
#

guess you'll never know

cosmic raft
#

@void void idk why

#

I just grabbed a book and started writing

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and writing

#

and writing

void void
#

weird boi kashike

cosmic raft
#

4 full pages plus the start of another

peak kite
#

delete delete delete oh no. wrong keyboard.

cosmic raft
#

sound too

solid nacelle
void void
limber knotBOT
#

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cosmic raft
#

uhh

limber knotBOT
#

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cosmic raft
#

:P

void void
#

i like dis 1

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ok fine

#

this one is good

cosmic raft
#

\o/

void void
#

i need to code, i've been so buried in school i haven't in so long :C

#

hey guys let's talk about that ultraretarded new mc software that litters its commits with fucking emojis and says that it's what keeps them from making monolithic commits (yknow instead of not being retards)

vestal jasper
#

ok

celest coyote
#

nothing is stopping you from writing patches for paper documented only with emojis

void void
#

i would never do that

#

im not a fucking leaf

neon dagger
#

Anyone have any ideas on how to make survival harder?

vestal jasper
#

ban armor

cosmic raft
#

no chests

vestal jasper
#

make mobs invulnerable to weapon damage

void void
#

no regen, timeout on death, no chests, no taming

vestal jasper
#

ban on death, make it hardcore

void void
#

i should note, no natural* regen; for sp survival ultrahardcore it's only pots can regen health

#

pots or soups

#

but still have to eat to not die

#

:-)

celest coyote
#

spawn special monsters

#

make food much harder to obtain

neon dagger
#

Instead of banning on death, when you make your first bed. You get set to 3 lives, (before making a bed you only have 1). If you lose all your lives you respawn in a random location of the map.

#

That's what I did.

vestal jasper
#

writes down coordinates of my base

#

dies

#

walks to base

celest coyote
#

just make sure they spawn over 1 million blocks away

#

good luck walking that

#

muhahahaha

vestal jasper
#

you underestimate 2b2t players

#

they'll walk tens of millions of blocks for the hell of it

neon dagger
#

You're going to travel possibly millions of blocks just to get to your base? That'll take quite a while even with Nether exploiting.

vestal jasper
#

yes

neon dagger
#

But yeah I guess you could come back to your coords... But it'll still be a journey and it'll take a while. I feel like it's better then banning people as if I'm just starting with a server it doesn't make sense to ban most people who join...

#

Also I heard that you could hide coords from players too.

void void
#

Any cali dedicated hosts anyone would reccomend?

neon dagger
#

I'll probably add the no taming thing, maybe. I do want chests I feel not having them wouldn't exactly make it more difficult just a billion times more annoying.

void void
#

choose their LA INAP location

#

3 options

neon dagger
#

Oof NFO is still around?

merry talon
#

site straight out of 2007 lol

peak dirge
static badge
#

PogU times before BlockPosition

peak dirge
#

oh, and beta 1.7.3 is very aggressive about world saving

static badge
#

?

peak dirge
#

saves to disk every 2 seconds...

static badge
#

LUL

peak dirge
#

In Canyon, I'd probably go for every minute

static badge
#

maybe that's your issue

#

it's saving too much OMEGALUL

peak dirge
#

I mean, FreeBSD is fast, but perhaps it was the I/O that ruined it

#

Either way, never mind about that, the server is running Debian 10, which seems to be okay with all that I/O

#

The other problem is that the profiling agent YourKit ships for FreeBSD/amd64 has debugging output and they didn't take it out before releasing 🤔

#

inb4 "someone uses yourkit and freebsd?!?"

rocky axle
rustic wagon
dusk drift
golden gust
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Source deleted his shizzle

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Sexy Black & The Less I Know The Better - length 35s - 430 likes, 1 dislike (99.8%) - 6,788 views - 642437624RD on 2019.08.18

jaunty bolt
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Lol, someone is going around on various porn sites and making accounts with my servers contact email 😂

golden gust
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So, what porn site leak are you covering up for?

jaunty bolt
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What do you mean? 😮

golden gust
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What site got their user db leaked that you're tryna cover up for?

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"I swear, it wasn't me"

jaunty bolt
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haha xD

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Also got registered to like 20 mailing lists and keep getting mails about cheap passports for sale

torpid willow
idle panther
icy totem
raw night
cinder raptor
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Greetings! I just stumbled into PaperMC after I've been using Spigot for years! Is it recommended to make a backup of your server before switching jars? 🙂

hoary void
stable crystal
midnight igloo
merry talon
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you shouldn't need to, but it won't hurt

distant bluff
pulsar wigeon
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it's recommended to take regular backups in general 🙃

merry talon
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yes

cinder raptor
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Real men don't backup, they cry when they fuck up their saves instead.

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;P

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Thank god I'm not a real man.

limber knotBOT
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huh I just had a random thought

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I'm getting reconstructive surgery for my nose soon

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will that affect my ability to log in with my face on my existing devices?

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how much would I need to change my nose before it stops recognizing me?

vestal jasper
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yes

cerulean ermine
zealous knot
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I mean iv'e unlocked my phone countless times while shoving almost all of my finger into my nose trying to find some treasure so I don't think it'll be an issue

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I guess face recognition stuff looks more at your eyes and shit

limber knotBOT
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That reminded me to go turn off the assistive lighting on my phone

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Nothing light a bright white screen when you hit your phone while in bed

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*nothing like

zealous knot
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Why the fuck is that even a thing

void void
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I mean iv'e unlocked my phone countless times while shoving almost all of my finger into my nose trying to find some treasure so I don't think it'll be an issue

golden gust
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I mean, the pros of the assistive lighting is so that you can unlock your phone in the dark

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Downfall is that well, it's dark

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Nothing light a bright af screen shining in your face to change that \o/

zealous knot
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That's why the put fucking IR blasters near the face recognition hardware

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Is your phone in like the stone ages

golden gust
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oneplus

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Basically, it uses the camera for it, as opposed to being all high tech

heady spear
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holy shit american netflix is so much better

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they have actual content on there

golden gust
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I mean, being outside of the US is like having a 3rd world netflix

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Most of the stuff on there is old or stuff that people never really cared to go to watch in the cinema

upper flicker
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tbh even American Netflix is losing a lot of content as all the main houses and networks go try and make their own thing to cut Netflix out of the profit

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Hate to see what it’s like elsewhere if it’s worse

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Some of their original stuff is solid, hopefully they keep doubling down on that and we get more good original stuff

golden gust
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Honestly, I don't know if it's just my general lack of interest over tv shows/movies (I find it hard to turn off for so long), but the amount og food quality stuff out in general is dropping

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*of good

upper flicker
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No I like food quality stuff

quasi valley
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the one thing I wanted to watch which they added was IT, else everytime I go to search some film on netflix it's like "yeah, you know the film you're looking for? it's been removed a week ago"

golden gust
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Part of why I don't bother with things like netflix, tbh; My mate pays for it so it's not like I gotta, but like, content wise it's just bleh; Most of the stuff we want on netflix is because we're scrolling through and it looks like the best option we can spot

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When we wanna watch something specific, we have to erm, look elsewhere

pulsar wigeon
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[10:00 AM] Z750: No I like food quality stuff
this pls

merry talon
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does faceID work in the dark?

patent wraith
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I don't think biometric logins are a good idea at all.

quasi valley
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[...], because

merry talon
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my phone has an iris scanner which is cool and future-y

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except it can damage your eyes sooo

pulsar wigeon
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biometric logins 🚮

merry talon
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I think fingerprints are good

patent wraith
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The police usually can't force you to provide a password, but they can force you to hold you finger over a authentication device.

merry talon
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well this is a legislation problem then

pulsar wigeon
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welcome to the US of FREEDUM

merry talon
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I don't think they can do that here

quasi valley
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don't think so either

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and anyways, I don't think I'll be a cuck enough to be prisoned by police 😂

patent wraith
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The police where you live can't take your fingerprints?

pulsar wigeon
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i mean tbf there's plenty of other issues with biometrics

merry talon
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well they can take them

quasi valley
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let us hear them wiz, cause the police thingy certainly is not a real one aaaa_helpme

merry talon
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but not use them to unlock my device afaik

patent wraith
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Are you sure about that? Even if they can't do it legally, that does not mean they can't physically do it.

pulsar wigeon
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the police thingy is a very real one lol

merry talon
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they could physically shoot me in the face

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I don't think that's relevant

quasi valley
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I mean it's an issue that could in no way possible interest me even a little bit

patent wraith
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Well, if you are dead, you can't provide the password.

pulsar wigeon
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"irrelevant to you" and "not a real one" are very different things