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so what do i do with a dual socket useless opteron system
Where do you live?
Could keep it for winter
Earn some bitcoins and heat the room up
zombi, you could just use it for webservers, etc
(> implying mining bitcoins is worth it)
is mining with 16 cores even feasible
CPU mining is basically pointless
the server i on par with like a 4770k multi cored but single cored its like a pentium 3
Honestly no idea what I'd do if I dropped macOS as my main
Gentoo
The last time I used FreeBSD I accidentally compiled every package from source
i hate you very much tho
That's close enough for me thanks
@unreal quarry rip 90% of servers lol, pretty sure most dont have GPU's
GPuS AreN'T MultITHrEadED
Wireless power. Nice
i think they are trying to say PoE, but failed
it does say PoE Switches at the bottom
And the bank I worked at did have quite a few of those believe it or not, just sitting around our work areas
But you have to power a poe switch
yea, with poe
some can accept and provide
I mean, it didn't power all our workstations. The building has power routed under the floor with plugs coming up, so we can use those. But it did power some printers and small terminals.
my ip cams are on poe
@hot gorge Ubiquiti US-8 can be PoE powered
but not a switched poe, those are expensive
I never had to worry about the price :D They were just there. Cool tech
TIL
I've only ever looked at the 16 port unifi stuff
8 is too small for what I need
But good to know
Unifi offers tiny switches that can be powered and provide 1 PoE port - PoE can go up to 100W in certain senarios, it can definitely push a lot of power
❤ Unifi
I have 2 8 port PoE switched from ubiquiti, one is 1 powered port, other is 4 powered ports, works well
I don't power either over PoE though
I use that for one AP
Those take up space in my tiny little metal box in the coat closet
My other AP is run directly off the switch
Yeah PoE injectors are really big all things considered
Take up a ton of outlets as well
yup
i only have 2
The one I was referencing was pretty gigantic. Much larger than the terminal it was powering. Although the printer was pretty gigantic... Only two devices being powered though, all together.
mounted on the wall behind my couch :3
I only have 2 as well, but like I said, tiny box in closet
eventually i want a NVR with PoE ports built in
What cameras are you running?
reolink rcl-410
Tell me if I'm being presumptuous, but I think this guy is trying to take my plugin, split it apart into separate plugins, and release them as an IDE (??) The feature / platform set is way too fucking similar https://github.com/MC-IDE/MCIDE
happens all the time, demon.
take my pillager patchs in purpur. someone turned them into a spigot plugin :S
no credit given, even after admitting lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
which plugin
LimitPillagers
.g LimitPillagers spigotmc
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hexed 
I wanted to change the license on my plugin to be more restrictive (I know, I'm a capitalistic pig who hates freedom) but by the time I decided that it was too late
Also the one platform I haven't implemented yet (fabric) has a "new" next to it as if it's the only one he's done himself
Ugh I just hate people like that
Also implementing platform support on the framework I've already built isn't the same thing as implementing platform support from scratch, but I guess I'm wasting my energy
Technically I don't know if anyone's stolen my (and my contributors) work yet or not, and nothing is released yet so it doesn't matter. But I'm 99% sure he's trying to steal the work
i doubt it'll gain much traction anyway
why use someone elses half assed IDE when you can use intellij with your plugin that has all the features you'd ever want?
the model creation and json model editor sound nice tho
Those are both open issues on my plugin
It's been 7 months, I'm sure nothing will come of it
Guess I need to get off my ass and implement velocity and fabric support
Velocity will be easy, fabric not so much
i still dont get what so great about fabric
Tbh I need to rewrite my project creation system first
It's not bound by the SRG license which is the biggest thing
i mean
That will likely not matter soon anymore
I know, it's just the idea of someone trying to steal work pisses me off
But you're 100% right
i'd be honored if anyone tried to steal my work, at least i think
it's not really honorable
my shit is usually dumpster fires ontop of a nuclear waste, so i doubt anyone would want to anyway 😉
benefit of writing shitty code i suppose
@static badge was that comment on demon's plugin ironic or serious?
mc dev
He meant your troll review
oh my review
Which jetbrains won't delete and I don't think you can either iirc
stuck there for all of time
haha prank gone wrong, almost got arrested
dead meme

morning
leaf
the fuck kind of optional does the client use?
Because it's sure as hell not java8's
I think one of my dependencies is the wrong version actually
Yeah mojang's latest release of datafixerupper is not the version they use in 1.14.4
how nice
(DiscordBot) https://github.com/Mojang/DataFixerUpper -- Mojang/DataFixerUpper: A set of utilities designed for ......: "A set of utilities designed for incremental building, merging and optimization of data transformations. - Mojang/DataFixerUpper."
no they use j8 optional
Yeah they just made breaking changes to their classes
And their latest release doesn't have those changes
Using the latest commit fixes all issues regarding DFU
I love how many errors are just from the decompiler deciding to cast everything it can
generics are a bitch
Also there's over 3000 classes I have to investigate and fix
I'm pretty sure 1.15 is going to release before I get this to compile
.pray
Fix Version/s: Future Version - 1.15+
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@void void lol
@static badge im doing some stress tests and i dont understand why this shows up so highly
Currently working on... trying to reduce Netty CPU usage by Minecraft
Been out of the loop a few days, anything stupid/interesting on the paper/vanilla 1.15 front?
atomic ref get should be not the most expensive call there
Should you cancel after 14 days, you’ll be charged a lump sum amount of 50% of your remaining contract obligation and your service will continue until the end of that month’s billing period.
I love Adobe
a year is USD$599.88, so USD$299.94
what's it doing tho leaf
a read op
why so costly
it's really not
the get() is definitely inlined in that call so it might be some retardation with that? not exactly sure how sampling handles inlined functions
is it waiting for something to load maybe
no it's not
so what gives, why is so much time spent checking if a chunk is loaded
or is sampling fucky
I'd expect it to just be checking a large area 
dum sampler idk 
prplz watcha working on
aight i'll try yourkit and spark
@queen rapids i spawn many entities and see what happens to try get more insight into why 1.13/1.14 are so slow
i have an open source one but its expired
still good for 2018 version of yourkit though
or if you're making money off the craft you can justify buying it for $99
the academic license, right? i did the request a quote thing and they want proof of academic status
idk what to send lol
no idea, i had to google it
fucking yourkit
i got a free license for yourkit just for having an open source plugin
just have to shoot them an email
is yourkit some profiler thing
yes
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reminder for @void void sux 2 b on dumcord doesnt it
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who is magma and happy birthday to him
Happy birthday Magma
🍰
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Nice, 1.14.4 just passed 50% on bstats
And it doesn't contain the 8k servers on 1.14.x who didn't for whatever reason update to 1.14.4 yet
gud
how many players per server does it contain
Hey Magma
Happy Birthday you fucking bitch
He's not in the channel
@wide chasm ure good at html
html
I program in html what's up /s
mfw stealing my joke vic
you don't own that joke
yeah I dp
disgusting
wtf
thats a skill not capital
mr my capital is ur two braincells
those are assets retard
no, being the biggest retard in every room he enters is a skill
"reee assests vs capital"
leaf ur retarded
mfw vic calling other people retarded
you are retarded
if I had two remaining braincells
and one of them was dying let's say
and you offered to lend me one of yours
not only would I reject that offer but I'd be surprised you'd offer your last remaining braincell
u fuking retard
me dum, too apparently
oh god
let's switch to 1.3.2 tbh
Hey everyone, is there a plugin that prevents players from spamming items on the floor? Something like a cooldown on specific item types? Sharing books on our server is very important. But we got some trolls today who spam our spawn with books until the server crashes. Anything that can help in this matter is within my interest so sugesstions are welcome!
I don't know if one exists but I'm sure you can pay someone to make it.
I'm $20/hr and I would quote about an hour of work, so $20 and I'll make it for you. 
Is it any specific book? Cause you can specify tags on how long an item takes to despawn I think it was called Age. If, whatever you're using, allows for it, you could specify that and make it 30 seconds or something.
Thanks for the offer Simple. I might get back to you if stef's idea doesn't work 🙂
Sure just send me a friend request if you decide you want to talk about it
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God damn it
tbh id buy a plugin like that but for mob egg usages for creative mode server
$20
but i could buy taco bell with $20 
im eating spicy chicken patties on toast
so where's my gift
also do you even have any idea of how many times I ran that comman
d
you're the second person who wants to send me crypto this month, maybe I should look into that
sorry I meant this week
well I hope you like getting notified about my bday
because it ain't over yet
Happy Beardday
I tried to sell my free crypto
it's in limbo in kraken because of shitty minimum withdrawals
says the one who cant withdraw his currency
I could if I cared enough
i've already bought chipotle, memrise, and have 50 bucks still i there
so whos the sucka
I for one have income outside of free crypto 
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grabs a automatic pistol and riddles Mister_Fix's body with bullets.
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lets face it you arent skilled enough to even talk about it ;)
.rekt
☑ Better Dead Than REKT
lets face it PHP not being capitalized there is retarded
also PHP is retarded
also simple is retarded
HEY
dont call simple PHP retarded, it prefers to be called intelligently challenged
s/retarded/Mummys Special little solider
Correction, <DiscordBot> <06Mister_Fix> dont call simple PHP Mummys Special little solider, it prefers to be called intelligently challenged
Anyone know of a 1.1.4.4 compatible plugin that announces when Diamonds have been mined?
I have one, idk if how block metadata works has changed
https://github.com/sweepyoface/Snoopy if you want to test
worldguard :^)
u
Thanks @merry talon and @pulsar wigeon
how tf do you block people on mobile
wiz
idk what's more retarded, this yash guy or discord's mobile interface
u have blocked the wrong person
When I ping wiz via the bot he can't block me, right? 🤔😂
I have never seen somebody get so angry about pings before
pretty sure he can't block bots yes
it's not even a bot
if that was an actual bot he could block it
can't block webhooks though
im retarded cause i thank you wiz.
k
thanking wiz is indeed pretty retarded
@pulsar wigeon
lol
Noob question. Compass points to world spawn right? I moved spawn, and restarted. I made a new compass, and its still pointing to the old spawn. And it seems like from timing that its being kept loaded. Any way I can troubleshoot?




hi all! how can i change the name that appears in the server list in the client? it-s still 'minecraft server'
You don't. The client changes it. All you can change is the message under it. The motd
oh i see. why servers then have weird names? they have been createdwith that name before being generated?
i changed the motd but i couldn't find how to change the 'name' in the server list
oh yea that name is unchangable by the server
but i can include then a message for the client to change the name that the user sees!
difficulty?
normal
does a totem stop it?
sad news 2day: setting isClientSide to true causes 1.14 to crash. Now I can understand why 1.14 is trash
robo, yer dum
put that option in purpur
den maybe ill consider
btw 2 servers that run GP use purpur
so lol
Should just recursively do getDeclaredField instead
recursively?
Yes
idk what to recurse over but uh I had to change this. It only showed up in getFields not in getDeclaredFields. https://github.com/RoboMWM/death/blob/master/src/main/java/me/robomwm/death/death.java#L37
Yeah if you had recursed it wouldn't have broken
Recursively call getDeclaredField on every superclass in the hierarchy until you get to Object
im a reflection nub so i have no idea wut that looks like
I'll PR it later
@spare venture
ok I think I figured it out
of course there's a chance of null if the field ain't there but I'm guessin that's wut u mean. I thought isClientSide was in the world class tho
Where do I post suggestions to paper?
wat ur suggest
ok what I did just gave me a stackoverflow
so obviously I didn't do it right
anyone knows how to put that?
thanks google
@void void GH issues
What
is 1.132 the highest update so far?
1.14.4 is on the ver/1.14 branch
ah ok, i found it, thank you very much
What's the Essentials group plugin called?
alright thanks
@lime venture You can only starve to death in Hard difficulty
robo what the fuck is that
> spend 20 minutes trying to figure out why gradle project wasnt working right
> file named incorrectly
mfw
I do that stuff all the time with gradle
youd think now that I use it all the time and dont really use maven I'd stop
you'd be wrong
I'm not surprised 
i was ready to pull my hair out one time, adding a plugin as a dependancy in my plugin, using the wrong case in part of the plugin name.... so i feel your pain.
@weak totem Yeah you can only starve to death in hard but you still get down to 1 heart though right?
RoboMWM there
How are villagers AI changed during a Rainstorm?
Cause a friend is claiming that iron golem farms become less efficient during rain
Ive heard that but Ive no idea if its true
do villagers try and go inside during rain or something
i believe they do
less efficient if the villagers do anything
if not rain, i think they at least do during a thunderstorm
you see you'll probably lose 15tps every villager that tries to do something
UwU
Is this an Off topic channel too?
As per note at the top
Social / Off Topic general community chatter.
Id say yes
didnt see that
well
Do people in here know about discord api and python?
Well if you do. https://paste.helpch.at/ifoguteqal.py I'm trying to get all members in a discord role and then locate their username in a database. Once it locates their name the program will enter a new value in one of the columns.
You think this is possible?
you should ask in the discord bot dev discord
Anyone know how to support roman numerals for enchants over X? Like sharpness XV for example
That's client sided
(aka: You have no control over how that is rendered), only option would be to use lore, but that's bleh
Btw the program im talking about has to do with minecraft permissions. I'm just trying to take a discord role and put it into minecraft role
you can use a plugin to set item flags to hide enchantments and add lore to show the enchantments, i've seen a plugin for it let me check my history @radiant heron
plugin is poop so might wanna find a beter one
bruh did you literally include your bot token in that paste
that's as good as a password.
erase and start over.
Oh okay he x'd it out
But still

Yea plus I regened the token so its all good
@void void That seems like exactly what I’m looking for but it’s 1.12
@void void will do it for you
I don't know exactly what it's supposed to do but sure $20
decompile it and make him a version without spigot api jar in it and with 1.13 api

$20
regardless im not doin it 4 free
got shit 2 do
ppl 2 see
prplz 2 unpurple
hey who's good at biology
because im a retard at biology
yea
im trying to remember wtf homozygous and heterozygous means
and google is telling me something too complex for my pea brain
oh nvm i get it
its something they tell you in biology
Yea
or whatever
All the time
Every day
Mainly secondary school biology
It's like the main thing you walk away with
wtf do they tell you that every day for
Don't ask me
That's why it's a meme
It's useless info
lul
really z 😠
memes are never created, only copied
copying memes
all my memes are totally original
if I had two remaining braincells
and one of them was dying let's say
and you offered to lend me one of yours
not only would I reject that offer but I'd be surprised you'd offer your last remaining braincell
u fuking retard
One of your memes has my content in it
yeah but they all suck so it dont count
The intellij themes one
oh
Pay up, I want my $0
good thing all my memes have zero value
LUL
fine wat's ur paypal
time to send 0.01 
mfw no paypal link
wtf
@static badge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOkv8ynpppk
by Emerson Wong Yann Singapore, they did an amazing job with this its amazingly funny and its educational!
(DiscordBot) The Electromagnetic Spectrum Song - length 4m 17s - 6,853 likes, 286 dislikes (96.0%) - 392,634 views - ChrisLee2009 on 2009.03.24
i hope you've heard this
idk if I have
problem
wait for november like the rest of us
@static badge how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtVJdPfm0F8
The intro from the 1990's childhood TV show, Bill Nye "The Science Guy".
(DiscordBot) Bill Nye: The Science Guy [Original Intro] ᴴᴰ - length 31s - 27,301 likes, 773 dislikes (97.2%) - 2,688,873 views - SynysterShadow on 2013.11.20
if you say no, then die
oh yeah bill nye
Bill Nye 
The original sondtrack-Dig It Up -------------------------------------------- Lyrics: "Dig It" [Zig-Zag] You've got to go and dig those holes, with broken ha...
(DiscordBot) Holes- Dig It Up with lyrics - length 3m 49s - 24,518 likes, 838 dislikes (96.7%) - 3,688,645 views - Meyati on 2009.06.09
wot
yeah haven't hearn of holes - dug it up with lyrics
believe it or not I'm not a heathen
never seen it in school?
no
huh
holes is a classic
Oof that takes me back
ugh i need to pack and shit
wtf even is holes
it's not dumb, it's transcended
looks confusingly retarded
that's a compliment from you
it's neutral
BILL BILL BILL BILL
Holes is great
Holes is great
idk, I forgot everything from english class
I'll grate your holes, Sonorous.
Am I blocked now
o that reminds me i was gonna unblock pigeonboi at some point
who da fak iz dat
🗡 🐦
Its a coo coo
go figure no one uses voice chat, we're all developers
@lime venture yep
he's at full health
On Normal difficulty you starve down to half of a heart
just spent an hour trying to figure out why my internet was down
turns out the power switch on the AT&T fiber box can be flipped off by the cover if you aren't careful...
fastest you can get with cox here is 300mbps
fastests ATT you can get here (which I have) is 1gbps
¯_(ツ)_/¯
github workflows look neat
kind of annoying that I'm in the beta but can't use it for my orgs
oh i have to register for the beta as the org separately..
Hey, when running my server, it is having issues [23:22:56 ERROR]: Failed to save player data for Scoutzknifez
Called from a player leaving the server in any form
Anyone got any tips?
java.io.FileNotFoundException: .\world\playerdata\db1ffec2-011f-4b8e-9ffe-45dcfbf1aa56.dat.tmp (The system cannot find the path specified)
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open0(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_201]
at java.io.FileOutputStream.open(FileOutputStream.java:270) ~[?:1.8.0_201]
at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:213) ~[?:1.8.0_201]
at java.io.FileOutputStream.<init>(FileOutputStream.java:162) ~[?:1.8.0_201]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.WorldNBTStorage.save(WorldNBTStorage.java:199) ~[PaperSpigot.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.PlayerList.savePlayerFile(PlayerList.java:385) ~[PaperSpigot.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.PlayerList.disconnect(PlayerList.java:425) ~[PaperSpigot.jar:git-Paper-187]```
Lmk if I should put this somewhere else. Server still runs fine, just clogs up the console.
seems like the server has no permission to write
Yea, been messing with it for the longest time, cant get the file off read only
is it linux?
Will mess with it tomorrow for sure. Very confused as to why I cant just set the file to read/write
Windows

^
Why windows
Because im coding on windows

and this is a server running for plugin development
Well try running the server as administrator
and its starting to spam my console with that error
Already have 😭
And changed the whole folder's group permissions
Really just dont understand the issue
try creating the file thats missing
and check if the playerdata folder is existing
If I do it manually, it works
no problem
but obviously I cant create all the files manually
I suppose I could for my local dev server though.
hmmmmmmmm this might be a real solution
Would rather find the real dynamic solution though
you have the same problem with a clean fresh server?
Depends on where it is
Linux systems dont have the issue
but my whole dev team is having the issue
and they are ALL on windows
🙂
im not having the problem on my windows system
idk im on my mac right now
yes I am
My files keep reverting back to read only
which I dont understand
no matter how I change them
via command line
or in properties menu
its read only
Well then you have to fix your permissions
I cant help you with that since its windows
and windows is just garbage
Yea for sure
Aight
well I know what to attack tomorrow
I have a direction
Thx for the help all 😉
hey now, i'm a windows guy and it's not garbage!
Oh yea cause installing a keylogger OS is great
well once that becomes a thing on mac, then i suppose macs would be garbage then
but that's the good thing about macs, they're not really as vulnerable
i'm not sure what your experience is with windows but i'm sorry to hear you feel that way
Check what windows is keeping track of the whole time
anything that logs your data to better serve you ads, i suppose could be called a keylogger
or better tailor your experience
but idk, i think i understand your position somewhat
idk Mac seems okay for now
but I have to use it because of my company
At home I have a dualboot with arch linux and windows
And another thing I hate on windows: the filesystem
Dont get my wrong I was a bit too "harsh" with saying its garbage. But there are jsut so many things I dislike as a developer
I mean ... just the system settings..
They were so good in windows 7
why make it garbage in 10
"PC Settings"
"Control Panel"
their tab interface that replaces the menu system... sheesh
that started in 7
Well they tried using the same os for phone and pc
which is just dumb
an appstore on a fucking desktop pc? are you kidding me
meh
Why is an appstore dum?
Linux calls it packet manager but after all that's the same thing
Packet manager? O_o
tfw u get bored and start doing dumb shit just to see what happens 😂
https://gyazo.com/9213628bf701342e839912cb5d27a71b
200gb lol
1024 x 200 = 204,800
Not really, just wanted to see if it would actually start the server lol
Back when i owned a server with 600 gigs of ram i started a spigot server with 550 gigs of ram and it worked just fine
fucking disgusting
1tb of ram necessary
letting all of these plebs in with sub-1tb requirements
smh
I make all of my plugins load 2tb worth of HD memes on startup to make sure the plebs know their place
Obviously
anyone that can help me with an plugin?
i´m looking for a plugin that will get keys from my crate when you are mining for example diamonds,
if anyone know a plugin like that, please help, i´m on Papermc 1.14.4 btw
Can anyone tell me what is the best version to run a modded survival server on? If there are any besides a regular forge server
you could try sponge
Alright i'll take a look. Thanks
good morning
Lul
solves cpu spikes by killing many features, Including nic

Why you closed this PR? https://github.com/PaperMC/Waterfall/pull/425
I don't understand
Because it's a shit pr
I think the comments on the pr have the explaination 🙄
@celest coyote rarts ignore explainations, that's why I never explain more than once
Unless that rart is important to me @worn ember ❤
it makes no sense to close prs just because someone's being banned from your discord
in this logic you shouldn't accept issue reports from this guy
Depends on why they were banning imo
Yes it does, he can't even talk to us here - also his code is a big steaming pile of trash.
but you do accept issue reports cuz you want your product to be better then this makes no sense to does not accept prs
He's also ridiculously rude to everyone here
So even if it were good (which it's not)
I think missing out on it to avoid such behavior is great
@upper flicker I have another suggestion on the site. Put somewhere here a "Javadocs" button so people can more easily see where the javadocs are. https://prnt.sc/p6v52n
Why are you pinging him
Have you read #404345080917262369 or no
he maintains the site /shrug
and...?
there is a GH repo that you can submit issues on
Go make an issue request or else it will be forgotten
I don't like using GitHub, it's just akward
I use GitLab or Bitbucket more
Well that sucks, this is a software community
Get used to it
You don't get to ignore rules just because you don't like them
Should have a timeout channel where mods can throw the people who don't like to read the welcome info for a "timeout"
Can use text or voice and can't move yourself out lol
Could make the discord bot do that for pinging people ;D
But the amount of people who will just ignore it because they don't like the alternative is insanely high
Like, honest to god.
Those people can f right off
Anyway I'm heading to class.
School never mailed me my parking permit so I get to buy one from the office today.
Even though I already paid

glhf
Could just make a timeout role that doesn't allow them to send anything. Much easier
so i broke my college their system and now i get an error page for everything i try to do 🙂
I broke my county’s school system once
how lol
i dont even know ¯_(ツ)_/¯
probably wasnt even me tbh, but i needed to get some details changed so some admin probably fucked up
hmm
but you do accept issue reports cuz you want your product to be better then this makes no sense to does not accept prs
yes, because they make so much money selling this product
I never said they sell it -_-
You inferred it
I guess he meant project not product
if something is free, you're the product
beautifully said, sir dark

As you have been quite rightfully chastised over, please do not ping me directly for random suggestions. Thanks
Accepting PRs from people who have been removed from the community is not good, given the potential legal implications should they throw a paddy that they've not been unbanned, etc
The quality of the PR is also questionable too
if they "throw a paddy that they've not been unbanned" just ignore it. whatever, you decide
pull a spigot and get a CLA
/s
The word product doesn’t necessarily imply that something is created for sale: 2. a thing or person that is the result of an action or process. "his daughter, the product of his first marriage"

you do realize that this is the definition of product as in"result" do you
Damnit I justed ordered a #1 when I wanted a #2
just correct your order? 🤔
While you could say that the product of two idiots is another idiot, you could also say that the current state of the plugin that you have created is a product of your work
so what? that is most certainly not what he meant given his sentence 👀
but to be fair the initial def was also nitpicky, doesnt seem like he's native, so meh
He roughly said it would make sense to accept pr to his repo because that could make the result better
well that's your interpretation, which is not the one that most others here stuck too
You’re assuming that person didn’t use google translate to come up with the word product
They don’t strike me as a native speaker of English
That’s fine was just offering another take; I didn’t see enough of the linked conversation to get the full context
👌
the issue is that in context, it implies that "making the result/product/whatever better" leads to some gain by the developers
I guess that just depends upon the quality of the PR and whether it integrates well
(i mean, it also implies that accepting random shit PRs makes the project better, which is another issue)
Lol I hear from behind me: "someone is tryna troll me. They know my time, my school, my city, my brother's name"
Honey
U been doxxxxxed
Sweatey
oof
this question needs an expert answer: https://www.quora.com/unanswered/Do-Christian-Minecraft-servers-actually-exist-If-they-do-then-where
there's no such thing as a non-christian minecraft server, ofc
totally not a setup for self-promotion
Inb4 Z750: 
are you referring to that computer science professor from MIT?
who the fuck are any of those people even
not knowing our god ans saviour RMS Kappa
Just more reasons not to use the GNU prefix
In case the original reason, that it's idiotic, wasn't enough for you
In his case it'd be UGNU
In related news, yay Linux 5.3
yey windows 11
Will there be a Windows 95?
gasp neither /tenor nor /giphy give RMS memes, they must of banned his ass lol
Yeah no one really knows professors outside of people in the field and acedemics
"Motherboard has obtained a copy of the email thread, but has censored the names of its participants besides Stallman." 🤔
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god, why is vice so shitty. can't edit your cookie preferences with enabled ad-block -.-
Looks like a much more nuanced option as opposed to the current one dimensional one
god, the whole RMS thing is just an he-said-she-said and people not understanding what the other side means -.- (all sides tbh, rms could've formulated stuff a lot better...)
I think if he had only made that statement, one could try to dive deeper into what was being said. However, if you have a broader history of genuinely questionable statements and behavior,
then your actions can then perceived as offensive. At the very least you could consider him an enabler of a toxic mentality. When it comes to abuse, no matter what scenario you look at,
there are many enablers and without question, people who we assign authority to - based upon demonstrated skill, credentials or for religious purposes - often end up abusing those
with less power, ones who are incapable of representing themselves, and, if they say anything about these authority figures, will be shouted down or have their reputations smeared.
It's wrong to just assume that a prominent figure is infallible - I don't care what they did that was positive, that doesn't give them a free pass to do something awful.
I feel like the question nowadays is: Should saying horrible things be judged the same way as actually doing horrible things.
probably because you'll always have the issue of assuming that people should be smart enough to realise what consequences them saying certain things could have
Well, I think ultimately it's the environment that's being called out. As a figure of authority and notoriety what you say carries a lot of weight.
The philosophies you espouse can spread throughout your domain of influence, and while on the surface, they might be intended to be inoffensive, they
end up creating an environment that is toxic for others.
and if they still say it then they said it willingly accepting the consequences
I think the issue here is were those horrible things you said used to justify what someone else did.
well that's the question yeah, and from reading the emails I don't get the fealing that anyone is justifying that raping children is okay... (without knowing too much about the previous behaviour of the persons involved or even details of the actual case)
The broader issue is that there isn't a nuanced discussion of these things, because we're polarized into camps or tribes;
we're all negatively impacted by our inability to reach any consensus, because we're so blinded by the things we've perceived
- many of which are real, but since we're not in the same position as others we do not perceive them.
I solved the problem for me by avoiding to engange in politics or news in general ¯_(ツ)_/¯
His statment is literally saying that "they where willing", even as minors
I don't really see how else you can take that
But the reality is such that they truly were not willing
They were coerced into this situation
Epstein leveraged this group of women that he had perverted and manipulated so that he could take advantage of others, especially men who are in positions of power and authority.
it's literally not saying that...
and I hope you aren't just reading some articles but the actual emails, cat: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6405929-09132019142056-0001.html
But that's the reality of what happened, whether it was said by RMS or not. I'm not really referring to him alone, by saying that.
I understand that this was a statement in a mailing list, but he is a significant figure, his statements carry weight, no matter where he releases them.
If he doesn't fully address all the variables and nuances of what he's talking about, then he is opening up himself to criticism.
Is that to say that everything he was implying was just blind sexism? No. But ultimately he does have a responsibility for the things he says.
Unfortunately, he's now in a position where no matter what he says in response, it is going to be labeled as defending something offensive.
There will be no broader, meaningful discussion, it'll be defensive posturing or vilification from opposite points of view.
yeah I get that, sience people especially in cs unfortunately don't tend to be the most articulated ones and it definitly shows in RMS's email
and while reading it I noticed that I would've written twice that much just to specify what I actually meant, his argumentation leaves a lot of holes that can be filled with whatever people want to read between the lines
And that's part of the issue, his language he uses, because he's trying to explain it using that style, is going to be misconstrued.
Unfortunately if he has presented himself in other situations as offensive or questionable, it's going to only reinforce a negative perception.
well the real question is: is he just unable to communicate or actually unwilling to put in the effort of doing it properly?
If I were writing something for public consumption, as an editorial or an opinion piece, I'd feel compelled to really flesh out what I was saying.
He did have one response that warned him, that even though he was discussing the topic in a mailing list, that it could be released to the public and interpreted
negatively.
He probably felt, given the forum he was discussing the topic in, that he wouldn't have to 'fill in the blanks'. Unfortunately others are filling them in now.
well in todays world nothing is private anymore so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
even this channel is probably publically logged somewhere xD
Of course, someone at the NSA is eating popcorn while reading this, but it isn't John Bolton.
Wtf is this channel
General Social chat?
#paper on irc.spi.gt? xD
Wtf is this rms situation I'm missing out on
Prominent Tech figure, a visiting Professor at MIT, had his statements from an email list released
rms was defending epistein
In which he made some statements that were perceived as offensive.
Because he was defending someone of renown who had passed away.
and then people twist his statements as "definding epstein" 
Well frankly, he could have worded it better, but again, he probably felt that that wasn't necessary in the context.
yeah because who tf would defend epstein?!?
imagine being dead
people monsters who used his services?
hm, good point
Well, it's just one of those things where in the current environment you have to be very explicit.
I thought being explicit is already offensive? (at least with how prude the US is xD)
There were plenty of authority figures and prominent individuals who were tied to him.
They certainly would have something to protect.
well not like he gonna start talking
Well, by explicit, I meant providing all the details
;)
as opposed to being implicit - implying something without stating it fully
@worn ember Well, unfortunately Epstein cannot 'hang out' with his friends anymore, besides they probably wouldn't talk to him anyway.
weird
is this papermc or politicsmc
It says social general
Depends on who is online.
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rms didnt have to get involved in first place. specially to defend a CONVICTED pedophile. that requires a special kind of fuckery to say "you know what, im gonna speak up for him of all people"
one who showed no intent to stop his perversions
Giuffre is a "convicted pedophile"? Oo
epstein
so you didn't read the actual email, got it
If he wanted to defend Minsky he should have just been straightforward - Minsky might not have been aware that he was having an illicit or questionable encounter with a young woman who really wasn't in control
of her situation, so it's unfair to qualify Mirsky as pedophile - for one he's not able to provide defense or any details about the relationship/encounter.
yeah he worded it quite poorly, so much that it's hard to say what he actually meant and now he probably wont be doing any qualifying statements anymore
eh, specyfing? dunno where my mind went
wait,, I also meant Minsky, not Guiffre, damn names ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ
🚷
ok apparently i did miss a key detail, i didnt realize it was about a different person, and headlines worded it as he was saying epstein shouldnt of been considered guilty in the assault of guiffre.
damn media ugh
agreed. the guy accused clearly wasnt in a morally acceptable position to be with a pedophile around young girls, and questionable that RMS is defending him even, but its not defending epstein himself
Is it bedtime yet?
beer time
The worse part is I've only been up a few hours, I was dumb and took my meds early other day to see if I could help with the fact that I just feel tired as all shit
I ended up just going to bed lol
D:
LOL I'm watching this "American tries to speak German in German Grocery Store"
He walks up to the deli
"ICH HABE HUNGER."
and get up at 6 or something
Person behind deli:
"ok....?"
anyone knows how to remove silk touch on my server? please help. on Paper 1.14.4
remove...silk touch... 
is there anyway to disable it
😄
You'll have to get a plugin that does custom enchants... I guess.
Not by default
There is no clean way to do it afaik
not sure if serious or meming
I mean couldn't you just prevent items from being enchanted with it?
the real question is why do you want to do this?
1.14 doesn't allow you to directly modify enchantment loot tables yet right? cause i know you could just take it out of the other loot tables
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why don't airports have fuckloads of plugs all over their waiting areas?
They are cheapening out
but that costs $0 effectively
What airport you talkin bout
OKC
Easy to get through security at least
LAX has a fuckload
same for the two in China I've been to, and Manila airport has a fuckload of plugs
theyre are a metric shit tonne at the airport near me
Hi my favorite people in the world
shrug
You see any of those scared shitless bois n girls getting ready to be picked up to go to Fort Sill?

I was born and raised in Lawton/Ft sill
Hell yea boiii
but i mean
That's where they get picked up when flying in out of state
Bunch of veterans receive them
Forgot where
I think it's behind Burger King
depends on what they're doing
Lawton's runway is significantly larger than it needs to be for Lawton's traffic, like 4x as long as it needs to be
specifically so it can support military aircraft
I did touch and go practice on that runway
in my little cessna 152 i could do 4 touch and goes in 1 run
;o
took me like a minute to fly over the rest of the runway after I took off

Macbook's at 63% I wonder if I can make it there without it dying
I wanna do some work on mcdev on the plane if I can
I always say I'm gonna work on the plane but I never do
these planes are small af tho so it'll be a challenge
I've done it a couple times
usually I give up though
on the plane to australia the seats were huge and I was on the plane for 20 hours so it was hard not to
I don't travel big name airlines, and I always sit economy...and most of my travel is intl not domestic; so net in the air is rare. But when available, it's been shit AF. I can't wait for the day that it's more available and viable
(on EVERY airline, not just big names)
Those will be the times I work when flying



