#general

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pine shore
hushed oyster
void void
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so punchable....

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"prodigy"

fringe flint
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yo he makes ios games dude

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that sold well on the app store

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big brain prodigy!!!!!11

void void
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"dreams in code"

fringe flint
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lmao

wide chasm
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I.e. in my sleep I came up with a solution to something

void void
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in that case bitch me too

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where my prodigy title

wide chasm
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Here it is, Prodigy Simple.

fringe flint
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how do you bill people for the hours where you were sleeping and dreamt the solution?

void void
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"On-call bug-fixing" kappa

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what is a prodigy coder anyway

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its when u dream in code duuuuh

wide chasm
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If you are very good at programming at a young age, you could call that a prodigy coder

void void
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but someone older is better

wide chasm
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Depends - if that older person has more experience, probably, yes

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If he just followed a 4 hour tutorial on Python, probably not.

void void
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Being "very good" is highly subjective honestly...You could say that someone who can write a complete application at a young age is "very good"...which is pretty much all this kid did.

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And...what quite a few of us here did, I'm sure.

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14 isnt even that young to start coding

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Yea

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I started when I was like 9 I think

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lawl

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or 10

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one of those

wide chasm
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14 is slightly below average I think, but not by much.

void void
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you should be decent by now, what happened? thonk

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:(

wide chasm
void void
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javascript wasnt very fun in 2005

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When I first started writing code it was hella fun....and I started with PHP...

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But now it's just like...idk what you would compare it to

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Talking?

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It just happens.

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Idk

wide chasm
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Does PHP or JavaScript just happen?

void void
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Nah...idk what I'm trying to say

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Like, I have to think about the logic of the program rather than writing the actual code that expresses the logic

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Whereas when I was starting, I was constantly referring to actual language docs to remember different parts of the language

wide chasm
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Yeah, I know what you mean, getting the compiler/interpreter to accept the code isn't hard, but the problem solving and design (design most imo) is hard.

void void
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yeah

maiden escarp
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FRENCH here? @everyone

cunning badge
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Are you serious?

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Pinging everyone for that bullshit?

void void
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

cunning badge
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Well you dont have permissions for that but still a fucking d*ckmove

quasi valley
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personne ne veut être francais volontairement, duh

cunning badge
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true

void cave
jaunty bolt
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I miss the good old days of writing Lua in roblox t_sad

limber knotBOT
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well

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I finally went to the doc about my nose

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15 years too late

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and yeah, looks like I shattered the shit out of it 15 years ago

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it's going to take 1.5 hours of reconstructive surgery to put it back together

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that's going to fun! :D

maiden escarp
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@quasi valley lol

worn ember
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It's your own fault

limber knotBOT
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me?

worn ember
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Yes

limber knotBOT
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yeah, yeah it is

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I hate hospitals

worn ember
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Well I'd rather have a working nose lol

limber knotBOT
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meh

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no rugrats

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as long as I can get it fixed now it's fine

worn ember
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I mean technically it's not needed

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True

limber knotBOT
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tbh I don't really regret not going a decade and a half ago

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I'm doing it through a private hospital not a public one

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well tbf I'm doing it through both

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I gave the public system a 2 year head start

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they have yet to schedule an appointment for me

worn ember
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I don't think that really matters though? Are public hospitals that much worse?

limber knotBOT
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I've been waiting for 2 years to get a doctor to take a look at it

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so you tell me which is preferable

worn ember
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Sounds like a murica thing to me

limber knotBOT
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portugal

worn ember
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Oh

limber knotBOT
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I called yesterday to schedule an appointment at the private one

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got it this morning

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got a scan on monday

worn ember
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I usually get my appointments in the first week or so

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Yeah haha

limber knotBOT
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I'll probably have surgery by the end of the month

worn ember
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Nice

limber knotBOT
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might go ahead and also do lasik while I'm at it

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tired of not seeing shit

worn ember
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You mean eye lasering?

limber knotBOT
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also I have amazing free insurance rn but it's running out next july so I gotta get a bang for my nonexisting buck

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yeah eye blasting

worn ember
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Ah

limber knotBOT
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I ain't paying for shit, relatively speaking

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maybe a hundred or so buckaroos for the entire thing

worn ember
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Yeah it's nice. Same here

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I don't quite trust laser surgery

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One small mistake and you're fucked

limber knotBOT
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well I am also on the fence about it but I 100% do not trust my current eyesight anyway

worn ember
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Well seeing little is still better than seeing nothing

limber knotBOT
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hey if they fuck up one eye you still have the other one

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tbf though I'm sure it'll go nicely

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I know a fair few people that did it

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really changed their lives

worn ember
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Should yeah

limber knotBOT
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I'd also finally be able to use VR goggles I think

worn ember
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Glasses work find for now for me

limber knotBOT
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I have a vive set but I constantly feel like I can't see shit

worn ember
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Lol

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Don't you have contacts?

limber knotBOT
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they go dry after 3 minutes

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seemingly have very dry eyes or something

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I actually have to use analgesic eye drops just so I don't feel the grating

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it's fun

dapper nacelle
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HI!

zealous pagoda
wild halo
unreal quarry
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I had both my contacts dry out simultaneously while i was on the football field doing my halftime show in high school. Hurt so bad I had to pop them out mid run and then continue on blind. That was the last time I wore contacts. Fast forward 5 or so years, and I ended up getting Lasik because I was tired of wearing those ugly safety glasses that fit over your normal glasses. I wanted to wear the normal safety glasses :3

golden gust
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"Now I can leave the house with just a helmet!"

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huggles billy

unreal quarry
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^_^

quasi canyon
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Are there any sys admins in here who are clued up with pterodactyl?

pulsar wigeon
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no. literally no one.

quasi canyon
worn ember
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thonkeng bold of you to assume that wiz

celest coyote
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sys admin
using pterodactyl

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not using terminal and scripts

pulsar wigeon
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sys admin
modern technology

relying on some 150 million year old winged reptile to run your server

nova badge
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Scripts? psh, I type the launch params every tyme

hushed brook
worn ember
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can you only add binary files to multipart body's?

old dragon
void void
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tbfh scripts > every publicly available panel

pulsar wigeon
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tbfh
to be fucking honest?

jaunty oriole
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Q: what panel do you use?
A: linux

void void
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yes wiz

primal talon
strange peak
woven otter
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linux is the best panel tbh

zealous kelp
woven otter
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what's that jigsaw crash

fierce temple
void void
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hey

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how do i reload data packs without doing the reload server command

pulsar wigeon
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/minecraft:reload

void void
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cheers

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it doesn’t reload grians dungeons

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any help?

pulsar wigeon
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probably not gonna get much help for datapacks here

void void
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ah

dapper nacelle
limber knotBOT
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hi @e​le​ct​ro​ni​cc​at​, I just fixed my reverse proxy so that I can come online to tell you this

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fuck you and your british shit bombs 😂

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another one today, 4k ppl evacuated

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they didn't let me go home so I had to stay at work 😂

golden gust
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Baahahahahhaaaaaaaa

pulsar wigeon
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wut

golden gust
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he's german, am a brit

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apparently they keep finding our bombs

pulsar wigeon
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who's bombing whom

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oh

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i see

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leftover uxo popping up, fun

limber knotBOT
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I think we had one every single week for the last 2 months

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and half of them where in my area

quasi valley
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Baahahahahhaaaaaaaa

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do brits laugh like that

wooden blade
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Huehue

quasi valley
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also regarding the issue report topic yesterday: gh issue title It won't let me in... with a screen of a truncated error/kick message

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without the actuall full error of course

cunning badge
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Im german too and Ive never had an evacuation because of bombs

golden gust
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We probs didn't care about where you live

cunning badge
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I mean its "Kassel"

pulsar wigeon
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too insignificant to bomb ur asses

limber knotBOT
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this is cologne

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there was value to target

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not like kassel

cunning badge
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I was living in cologne before

limber knotBOT
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I bet brits didn't even have enough fuel to get to kassel 😂

pulsar wigeon
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imagine living in some perfume thing

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:^)

limber knotBOT
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isnt it called eau de cologne because of my city? lol

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4711, eau de cologne

cunning badge
limber knotBOT
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"Echt Kölnisch Wasser" as we call it

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4711 is a traditional German Eau de Cologne by Mäurer & Wirtz. Because it has been produced in Cologne since at least 1799, it is allowed to use the geographical indication Original Eau de Cologne. The brand has been expanded to various other perfumes and products besides th...

pulsar wigeon
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LOL

placid vine
pulsar wigeon
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wait does cologne come from italian then

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i mean the name

mossy ice
pulsar wigeon
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oh, french

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italian perfume maker, german city, french name

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fucking globalization

limber knotBOT
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The original name was of my town is Latin, the Romans gave it

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Colonia

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Which then became coln and Köln, Cologne is just the English name

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Colonia Claudia Ara agripinensium or smth like that to be exact

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After someone's wive

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Might be a strange concept to muricans, but my city is over 2000 years old

pulsar wigeon
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Cologne is the french name apparently

quasi valley
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in what language would you not pronounce an gn else 😂

hot gorge
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Did you just ask where cologne came from?

pulsar wigeon
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sonorous

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go choke on a broken glass jar

woven otter
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hmm there's a plugin that requires redis server. should I run another redis instance for it(currently redis is used for pterodactyl)?

merry talon
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a certain famous glass jar perhaps?

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if you know what I'm sayin

woven otter
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probably not. Some queue plugin

scenic pollen
void void
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.optimize

limber knotBOT
wooden blade
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globalization? lulz; those names for Köln have been around for a long time.

quasi canyon
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😠

merry talon
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@woven otter I wouldn't

woven otter
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tbh I don't know which option is better since I have zero experience with redis ¯_(ツ)_/¯

quasi valley
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Use the same Redis instance

pulsar wigeon
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wooly_rabbit: wooooosh

woven otter
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wizwoosh

delicate ermine
pulsar wigeon
mild wagon
void void
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@pulsar wigeon Yeah I fucking hate when that happens

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can't even pick that shit up

static narwhal
celest coyote
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MC-4

pulsar wigeon
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yea ik

pure pebble
void void
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when wiz just lets people ping him now

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what happened to rampaging the lands with death and destruction wiz?

cunning badge
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I used to get flamed at

void void
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He used to destroy mere mortals.

pulsar wigeon
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hm?

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what do you mean

void void
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You used to destroy anyone who pinged you, and now you just take it. feelsSadMan

woven otter
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ping

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pong

void void
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@woven otter

woven otter
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let's try that again

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@pulsar wigeon

void void
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@woven otter

woven otter
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wrong

void void
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Right.

woven otter
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@void void

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timing

void void
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@woven otter

woven otter
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@void void

pulsar wigeon
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i don't see pings from blocked people

woven otter
pulsar wigeon
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so i guess i've just been effective at blocking bad boys

void void
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LAWL

woven otter
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smh wiz

pulsar wigeon
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it's not super in your face about it now

woven otter
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u should be blocked

void void
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@woven otter

static badge
woven otter
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@void void

pulsar wigeon
woven otter
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rood

pulsar wigeon
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🗡 🦆

void void
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This is great. Fantastic move.

woven otter
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gonna complain about WorldEdit now

pulsar wigeon
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this reminds me i new a new znc

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sk's finally died

woven otter
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did he actually

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wizzy wiz

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ur a shit wizard

worn ember
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loads world
[00:05:57] [main/WARN] [minecraft/NetHandlerPlayClient]: Received passengers for unknown entity
10/10 lul

void void
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i need more coffee

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i need to feel ALIVE

woven otter
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same but kinda don't want to drink coffee at 1AM

void void
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do it

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you already ruined your sleep schedule stupid duck

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cant ruin it more

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can only fix

woven otter
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my sleep schedule is pretty bad tbh

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imagine going to sleep at 4AM nearly every day

open yacht
void void
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i dont have to imagine, you just told me that you do that

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you stupid fucc

woven otter
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U

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fking bully

void void
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the sleep deprivation is making you stupid

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get some sleep

woven otter
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u making urself stupid

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Why is enderman bullying me

vestal jasper
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@ wiz

woven otter
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@ vic

vestal jasper
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@woven otter

woven otter
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wow

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@vestal jasper

vestal jasper
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get fucked

woven otter
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get rekt

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.rekt

limber knotBOT
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☑ REKTunMi

autumn bloom
woven otter
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Stratosphere

autumn bloom
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Yup

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anyways, quick question.
What happened to 1.14.4? It is so much slower compared to 1.12.2 that I was currently running on my tiny server (Rock64).

woven otter
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Mojang

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it was rushed afaik

lapis sequoia
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1.14 is a dumpster fire/smouldering pile of shit

autumn bloom
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I guess I'm still gonna wait then. What about 1.13? Is it "as good" as 1.12?

void void
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Golden just copied that from someone else

woven otter
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worse than 1.12.2 better than 1.14.4

void void
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And as for why? Mojang is why.

lapis sequoia
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I copied that from the person who I asked about this yesterday who responded to me @void void

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😂

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Mojang tries their best, cant be too harsh tho

void void
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bullshit i cant be harsh

lapis sequoia
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😂

autumn bloom
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I guess I'll test 1.13 and see.

void void
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bring in some of the goddamn paper team or other forks that know what the hell the issue is and know how to fix it rather than hiring dumbasses who can't code and ruin the game a little more with every update

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"Now we need a year to fix it! :)"

lapis sequoia
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I enjoy 1.13 because of not having to deal with item ids though

woven otter
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simple u do it

lapis sequoia
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How is 1.13 though?

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I only used it for a brief time due to data loss and ended up getting 50 daily on 1.14 which was a mistake

woven otter
vestal jasper
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.lombok

limber knotBOT
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[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on

woven otter
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ye it's free cancer

void void
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im waiting for the next bitcoin crash

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so many people on keybase dont understand lumens

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ive been getting free lumens

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lmao

woven otter
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give me some lumens

void void
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i dont have any left, they are bitcoin now

woven otter
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smh

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why are you waiting for bitcoin crash

void void
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waiting for it to go up slightly, gonna sell, then wait for bitcoin to crash, buy, and then wait for it to go up again as it always does

woven otter
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planning to invest in btc

void void
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and as soon as it does im selling

woven otter
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have you made anything noteworthy by doing that

void void
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$40

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so, no, not yet

woven otter
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not yet

void void
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but that is just how exchanges work

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that's how...literally every exchange works

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watch price, sell and buy as it fluctuates

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all the people signing up for the lumens drop is ruining my life tho

fallen oracle
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Lol

woven otter
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let's create a new cryptocurrency

void void
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I still don't know if they're referring to marijuana vapes or nicotine vapes. I mean. I keep hearing the "flavors attract kids" argument, but marijuana vapes aren't flavored... (are they?... that sounds nasty...)

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I like the taste of weed, I don't want it masked with some fuckin strawberry blueberry mochachino supervape flavor ($8.99)

queen rapids
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nicotine vapes

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juul

void void
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Yeah there is also a crackdown on marijuana vapes tho

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Bc of, for example DankVapes. Looks professional but it's just a brand you can use to stick on your half-assed cartridge

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Lots of people were buying them and sucking down almost pure butane

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Yeah, you got high

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Just not on weed

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On fucking gas

hot gorge
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Yeah vaping and not guns are the real national crisis. /S

void void
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Hmm something is expected to happen in the next 10 days to bitcoin

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no one knows if it's going to drop or shoot up

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Points are on shooting up, apparently

upper flicker
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inb4 those rumors were spread because they're gonna drop and they want you to buy in while they cash out

void void
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Mayhaps

worn ember
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lumes lmao

vestal jasper
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what's with retards who use hacked clients almost always talking about hacked clients in chat at some point?

worn ember
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its all they know

vestal jasper
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they're literally the only people who ever bother to bring them up and it's a massive giveaway that they're using those clients

static badge
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tell them leafclient is superior in every way

merry talon
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the world was expected to end in 2012

queen rapids
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where's the download link leaf

merry talon
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I guarantee you nothing spectacular will happen to bitcoin in 10 days

static badge
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I will not post leafclient to the public :>

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I use it to reproduce and fix exploits

void void
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leak it

woven otter
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leaf hm for the client

north willow
void void
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.remind -d -w 110204711323324416 10d lets check if anything happened to bitcoin (down/up), current price (usd) -> 10,333.10

limber knotBOT
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DiscordBot: Reminder set for 1 week from now.

void void
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.remind -d -w 247853925753946113 10d lets check if anything happened to bitcoin (down/up), current price (usd) -> 10,333.10

limber knotBOT
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DiscordBot: Reminder set for 1 week from now.

limber knotBOT
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MiniDigger: heh

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found you

crimson owl
static badge
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evidently

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tbh it's not too hard to find mini kappa

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".g dumbest person alive"

cosmic raft
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@static badge what should i get for dinner

ancient bolt
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tacos

static badge
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8:50pm

cosmic raft
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i was out

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picking up an order from indigo

ancient bolt
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ugh tomorrow's gonna be a long day

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wish i could fast travel to my bed on sunday

cosmic raft
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what's going on tomorrow

ancient bolt
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gotta help my parents move

cosmic raft
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heh

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ordered mcdonalds

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for free yet

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so win win

ancient bolt
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even free mcdonalds

cosmic raft
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hm

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?

ancient bolt
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mcdonalds

cosmic raft
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i mean it's not like i eat it all the time

merry talon
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I got a white chocolate mickey mouse statue for free

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beat that

static badge
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.g white chocolate mickey mouse statue

limber knotBOT
merry talon
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yeah no

hot gorge
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Would be better if butter

keen pond
limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] hello

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@cosmic raft you found me where?

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] dead chat

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*looks at the time *

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Yeah, I wonder why

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] I'm bored

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[MrIvanPlays] 2 days to school ;(

keen pond
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id like to thank the devs for making something that actually works without having to troubleshoot a million things

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i just install it

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install plugins

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they all work

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no issues

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magic

void void
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"What are you doing?..."

I'm cooking.

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what does it look like im doing you dumb broad?

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That's what his face is saying

static badge
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"thought that was my job"

versed karma
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Hey

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Can I request some help?

void void
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.ask

limber knotBOT
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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

versed karma
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😉

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So in the paper download for 1.14, it is missing the org.bukkit....stuff

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Do I need to do something special to get these other libs that I need?

void void
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That's because that's Paperclip not Paper.

versed karma
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Ah, so where do I find paper?

void void
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Paperclip builds Paper when you run it and puts it in the cache folder.

versed karma
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Oh

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Just run the jar?

void void
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You run paperclip and it does that, yes. However you can just run the jar if you really want to.

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Alternatively you should be using Maven or Gradle to get the paper API from the internet if you're trying to code with it.

versed karma
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Well, I need the runnable jar

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AND I need it to code with

void void
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Paperclip is the runnable jar...what is the actual issue you're having

versed karma
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But Im running my server from intellij for debugging

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so I would really only need the runable

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PaperClip is the base minecraft runnable server?

void void
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But...that's a really weird way to do it...

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You should be using Maven or Gradle to get the API for your code and just run the server with paperclip. You can do that with your IDE.

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That's the "normal" way.

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What you're doing is the noob way.

versed karma
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I suppose I could try to set it up your way

void void
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use maven or gradle :)

versed karma
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For sure

void void
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you'll end up using them sooner or later

versed karma
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ik

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use them for android studio

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cause... no other option

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lmao

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They make life easier for sure

void void
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That's because they are the best options

versed karma
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^

void void
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Trying to manually depend on jars is brittle as fuck.

versed karma
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Not at all

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Just gotta know how to write .bat files

void void
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...

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That's one of the reasons why it's brittle as fuck.

olive garden
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🤔

versed karma
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Lmao 20 lines of bat wont kill u

void void
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Oh dear god.

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bat file, until someone on linux wants to build it?

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Then you also have to distribute all your downstream jars with the source, just so someone can build it instead of just using Maven or Gradle and pulling them from repositories.

versed karma
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My team isnt on linux at this point, IF I get there thats a bridge to cross. For right now, ill try to set up using maven/gradle

void void
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  • upstream
versed karma
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.bat files pull from repos by themselves

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and copy to correct directories

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in relative folders

void void
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holy fuck please tell me you are not writing batch files to pull from fucking maven into your project

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your setup is weird and confusing

versed karma
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Not from maven

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from git repos

void void
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HNNNNNNGWEKLDKFGJWELSKDJZX

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simple you gotta chill more dude

versed karma
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There is nothing wrong with that 🙂

void void
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prplz i decline

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there's always going to be things out of your control

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just nicely tell them how it's meant to be done and chill

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Stupid people give me seizures, prplz.

versed karma
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I mean, how would you do it simple?

void void
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you can't help what happened here, but you can try to make the best of it

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Maven.

versed karma
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Im requiring a set of plugins to be ALWAYS up to date

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so therefore

void void
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Maven.

versed karma
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on run, I MUST continue to force the folder to be up to date

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The running folder, not your IDE dependencies

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Maven doesnt autopull and put into folders for you

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Only for your IDE, not runnables

void void
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You wouldn't need to use relative folders for libs if you used Maven...

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You can shade libraries.

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It's called an uberjar.

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im using this for everything going forward

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Or you can use a dependency in your jar that just downloads your maven dependencies when the jar is started.

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(Looking at Byteflux's Libby)

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luckperms does that too

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yea

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(I think he used Luck's impl as base for Libby)

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does this handle relocation?

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ah i see it does, great

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yep it do

versed karma
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Is that all auto generated?

void void
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The code? no

versed karma
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:/

void void
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It's not that hard to write a load line for each of your libs. You'd be doing that in your pom or build.gradle anyway.

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And you'd be doing even more work writing a batch file to download from a URL and copy files into relative paths.

versed karma
#

Aight so here is what I got out of this convo.

Step 2. Use runtime dependency builders
Step 3. Profit```
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@void void Right?

void void
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You can use runtime dependencies or you can use maven shade which just bundles them into your jar. Runtime dependencies is if you have a shit-ton of dependencies and they make your jar too big.

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Gradle shadow would be Gradle's version

versed karma
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I only have 4 dependencies libs rn (Citizens, HolographicDisplays, ProtocolLib, and Tabbed) 3, .4, 1.4, .1 MB Respectively

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That is small enough right?

void void
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I see 5 numbers there

versed karma
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1.4**

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not 1,4

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Fat fingers u see

void void
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So total is 4.5MB?

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you wont be shading them though, those are plugins

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And yeah

versed karma
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Roughly yea

void void
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Those should just get loaded by the server so you shouldn't need runtime dependencies OR maven shade/gradle shadow

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The user will just have to download them as well

versed karma
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Well, the user is only me. Not making a public plugin 😉

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Well, my team not just me

void void
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Well, the same stands. You just have to get each plugin and put them in the plugins folder along with yours.

versed karma
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So, in order to force someone to have those dependencies on compile time for say Intellij, whats the best way

void void
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maven/gradle

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Most of them should provide an api jar with maven

versed karma
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Perfect

void void
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If they don't, you can install the jar into your local repository and still use maven

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mvn install ...

versed karma
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And I can force maven/gradle files to move the jar to a specified file?

void void
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not sure what you mean, move a jar?

versed karma
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Reason: Im not running out of my artifact build folder, im moving it to basically a MOCK Mc server folder

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inside of the intellij project

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So after it compiles, but before it runs, I make it run the .bat to move the jar to the MOCK MC server folder, and then the run targets that jar instead of the built one

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if not exist spigot\plugins\example.jar copy ..\out\example.jar spigot\plugins\example.jar```
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essentially this

void void
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You can create a run config in IntelliJ to 1) compile 2) move file 3) run server

versed karma
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^^

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Thats what this is, it just targets the bat from the run config

void void
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Maven just puts the jar in the target folder in the project root, so you can either just make the run config do all those things or make the run config run a batch file

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Whichever you prefer, I guess

versed karma
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Whats the "right" way

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Id like it to be all independent of IDE tbh

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Thats what im aiming for here

void void
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Both of those are fine, as long as you're using a proper build tool for the actual dependencies and build tasks

versed karma
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wdym proper build tool?

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oh like maven/gradle

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] protocollib eww

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[MrIvanPlays] this sucks

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are you bypassing your ban via espernet

void void
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If you want it to be IDE independent, make a batch file that runs something like

PWD=$(pwd)
MOCK="../../mock"
mvn clean install
cp target/jarname.jar "$MOCK"/plugins
cd $MOCK
java -jar server.jar
cd $PWD
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that's bash (linux) but im sure you can translate it

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and yes, maven/gradle == proper build tool

versed karma
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Yea I can get it from there.

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Aight man. Big thanks

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Ill prob be around tomorrow to ask some more questions, if not props and thanks to @void void and @void void

void void
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👌

#
task copy(type: Copy) {
    dependsOn jar
    from jar
    into './run/plugins'
}

task run(type: JavaExec) {
    dependsOn copy
    classpath './paperclip.jar'
    workingDir './run'
    jvmArgs '-Dcom.mojang.eula.agree=true', '-Ddisable.watchdog=true'
    standardInput = System.in
}```
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i've been writing the run task in gradle myself

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./gradlew run

versed karma
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hmmm that looks interesting too

void void
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yes and no, it's annoying at first because gradle scripts are written in another language called groovy

versed karma
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Ik groovy

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Dont ask why 😉

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And you call that from your gradle build file im assuming?

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or from run config

void void
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either one

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in intellij i run it as debug so i can reload at runtime

versed karma
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^ Thats what I have mine set up to do rn

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Its so nice 😄

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Time for bed for me. Ty fam ❤

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] Spottedleaf it's not a ban bypassing, it's just that I'm not banned here which means it's not bypassing

quasi valley
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yea right

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ivan being big brain again

void void
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wtf

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that's the literal definition of bypassing a ban

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] :wesmart:

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@void void you're cute

void void
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i know, thx

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] simple nop, it's not ban bypassing cuz I'm with the same nick

void void
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wtf...

quasi valley
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ivan just

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no

void void
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did you go to school to become this retarded ivan

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or were you born that way

limber knotBOT
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are you going around a ban on discord? yes. that is bypassing then

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[MrIvanPlays] I never went to school

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we can tell

quasi valley
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^

limber knotBOT
void void
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or better you get banned from all channels paper related

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] why

void void
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you're already banned in most mc communities afaik

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] I changed

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[MrIvanPlays] see I still didn't rage quit on you which means I changed :)

void void
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no you haven't, you're doing the same things right now that got you banned

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what did he do?

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] I am not

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@acoustic pilot you around to ban?

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] prplz talking in other languages and such

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[MrIvanPlays] but I changed

void void
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mainly arguing, stealing code, insulting people

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] i didn't steal code

void void
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BS

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I called you out on a repo which you proceeded to delete

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You also told everyone ACF was shit bc annotations and proceeded to make "IvanACF"

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Three (3) times

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] yes i know about my shit

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god ivanacf was a great joke

wooden blade
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You step in it routinely?

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] but I change

void void
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Sigh

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] think whatever you want, I'm not that idiot I was back then

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back 2 days ago?

void void
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If you had changed don't you think instead of bypassing the ban by going on esper you would contact someone on the staff team to make an appeal

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] I'm pretty sure no one will respond on that ban appeal

void void
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Then that should send a message.

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] neither add me as a friend on discord/whatever

void void
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wut is happening here lol

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] anyway, you said that I am banned from a lot of minecraft communities

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[MrIvanPlays] well that's wrong . I'm banned from the illegal getbukkit cuz I literally said in their chat that they're illegal, from paper and not sure why but I'm also banned from velocity's discord

void void
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k

minor badge
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that sucks, now accept that you're banned and stop making a fool of yourself

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] I want to get unbanned from here cuz I changed and that's the only way I can talk to someone...

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[MrIvanPlays] you think I want to ban evade? that's wrong

vestal jasper
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[MrIvanPlays] Spottedleaf it's not a ban bypassing, it's just that I'm not banned here which means it's not bypassing
[MrIvanPlays] I changed

void void
#

Instead of sitting here telling us how much you've changed why don't you just show that you've changed by taking part in the community. By sitting here and literally doing the same shit you always do, which is 1) telling people they're wrong 2) insulting people or products 3) pushing how amazeballs your code is when it's not etc etc etc, just talk like a normal person.

minor badge
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@void void the circus has come into town

void void
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Like. seriously

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You're just being a fool

vestal jasper
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🤡

limber knotBOT
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[MrIvanPlays] simple the thing is that I never worked with NMS and such and can't help much, I can help with waterfall but the thing is that they will directly close my pr no matter what I do because....... i'm banned.....

jaunty magnet
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Hi everyone. Could anyone suggest a good minecraft hosting provider for running a modded papermc server in asia-pacific? I'm currently using aws but bandwidth is turing out to be too costly.

void void
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So don't try and help with waterfall while you're banned, try to be a normal constructive member of the community (assuming they don't ban you for ban evasion (whether or not that is what you want to do or not, you are doing it and it's against the rules)).

vestal jasper
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I rarely help and I'm not banned or getting flamed by simple. peepoJuice

void void
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cuz ur not stupid (mostly)

vestal jasper
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Thanks

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I'm pretty retarded I just keep it under wraps most of the time peepoJuice

static badge
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except that time

vestal jasper
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Yes

void void
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wtf ivan ban evading once again

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thanks proxi for keeping me updated ;)

minor badge
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uwu

vestal jasper
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OwO

rich pelican
limber niche
arctic dawn
orchid ingot
lusty hedge
void void
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why this picture of aikar is so popular

static badge
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it's his profile picture

worn ember
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Cuz it's the only one confirming he's human

quasi valley
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srsly discord no longer shows guild nicknames but the global name when in a voice channel

void void
#

Nice

strange plume
limber knotBOT
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Good.

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Guild Nick names need to die

long egret
quasi valley
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no u

fading anvil
quasi valley
zealous knot
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Dafaq.

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Didn't know that was a thing now.

wraith rivet
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Hey, I have a question

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Is there any possibility to use Paper and Fabric for a server at the same time?

golden gust
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no

wraith rivet
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Well fuck. I really wanted to use Immersive Portals

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Do you think it'll be a possibility in the future?

golden gust
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It's not something we'd care to look into

celest coyote
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thats prob never happening lol

golden gust
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Fabric and paper map things differently and our goals as a project vs fabric are entirely different

ancient bolt
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someone would have to be seriously crazy to implement that

wraith rivet
#

I didn't mean from your side specifically

ancient bolt
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technically not impossible though

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especially if the whole ecosystem moves to officialy mojang mappings soon

celest coyote
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if it were done, it would only be for 1 mc version

wraith rivet
#

Forge and Spigot have things for most versions, so I figure Fabric & Paper will eventually have one of those as well

celest coyote
#

it would be a pure hell nightmare for maintainencec

golden gust
#

So, theoretically yes; But it's never going to be clean and proper

ancient bolt
#

anything on spigot will work on paper

wraith rivet
#

I'm aware

golden gust
#

There are forge + spigot mixes for several versions, not a large number of them; And they all introduce the exact same issues that fabric and paper would have together

wraith rivet
#

What issues are those?

golden gust
#

Bukkit

wraith rivet
#

I mean I've used Sponge and it worked fine

golden gust
#

Bukkit as a whole was not designed to work in modded environments and literally works against it

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Sponge has nothing to do with bukkit

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Heck, sponge is what happens when you learn from your mistakes

wraith rivet
#

True, but it does offer a way for plugins + mods

celest coyote
#

sponge's api is completely different

golden gust
#

Sponge is an API provided by a plugin, entirely different to bukkit

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There was a project called pore which did the exact same thing for bukkit plugins

ancient bolt
#

sponge is designed to be a forge mod and play nice with forge

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bukkit isn't, not even a little bit

wraith rivet
#

Really hope one day plugins and mods can co-exist natively

ancient bolt
#

they do

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on sponge

celest coyote
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go use sponge

wraith rivet
#

Sponge doesn't have the mod I want to use tho

golden gust
#

Mods and bukkit plugins will never be able to co-exist properly

wraith rivet
#

I mean. Forge doesn't

dusk drift
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I mean

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Sponge?

wraith rivet
#

Anyway. Was just wondering if there was a way to use 1 specific mod on a Paper server. Suppose not. Thanks anyway

ancient bolt
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) MD_5 Song (Bukkit Can Suck It) - length 4m 39s - 50 likes, 118 dislikes (29.8%) - 7,804 views - TheStaticAge98 on 2013.07.25

quasi valley
#

lol wat

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😂

limber knotBOT
#

dogs> Cats

quasi valley
#

fishes > cats

olive garden
#

wow

limber knotBOT
#

[@kashike] Z750: ^

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[@Z750] thanks

limber knotBOT
#

so I wake up this morning, right, and am greeted by a news card about how rms is defending Epstein and I'm not shocked but definitely disappointed

fresh path
limber knotBOT
#

Hex: lol

void void
#

random non paper question, how do you set an individual to a group using luckperms

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Like what's the command, i can't find it for the life of me

#

J[

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K;',q

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\fQ

limber knotBOT
#

dumcordians

upper flicker
#

I assumed that developers could figure out a simple index listing without needing to spend time on it given that everyone else seems to think we don't spend enough time on their preferred issue

#

Apparently not

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Feel free to make something, if it's good I'll use it

void void
#

@upper flicker the thing is that newbies won't know what the thing is and I'm bad at html and css so I can't help much

upper flicker
#

...

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There aren't enough eye rolls to be had

#

No newbies have complained or asked how to use it

void void
upper flicker
#

If someone makes me something I'll use it

celest coyote
#

theres no need for this

#

its just a simple index

#

which has 2 items currently

tropic flame
#

for some reason my phone's gallery app likes to show files from hidden folders even with a .nomedia file inside them

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nvm it didn't actually have the .nomedia file 😅

wide chasm
#

I'm not a designer, nor good at web dev, but maybe something like this as a start?

worn ember
#

@wide chasm pr 👀

ancient bolt
#

Is Ivan in here?

quasi valley
#

he was

#

the same nice turd as always

ancient bolt
#

Immature childish trolling is really tiresome and annoying, I don't understand why these children find enjoyment in that shit

#

Was going to ban him if he wasn't

worn ember
#

LOOOL

quasi valley
#

lol today he was all on "no, I'm not as stupid as I was back then"

#

and "I have changed"

worn ember
#

yeah i saw that

ancient bolt
#

Trolling takes a real toll on people who have to deal with it, I despise trolls and their awful behavior and how they think it's "funny" to denigrate people's work

worn ember
#

Well, Minecraft Development is one of my favorite JB plugins, if that helps 🙂

quasi valley
ashen haven
worn ember
quasi valley
#

just saw that too 😂

worn ember
#

not sure if serious or not, but i suppose so, since its from 2017 haha

#

i like how #paper-help is flooded with questions and no answers xD

upper flicker
#

DarkEye is now in charge of answering all questions

#

Make sure you tag him to get a faster answer

worn ember
#

ill pass, i got very important work to finish

wide chasm
#

Yes, indeed, you have to analyse my timings image @worn ember

zealous knot
#

Mfw plebs ask for more user friendly javadocs lmfao

worn ember
#

they look a lot better than they used to

#

i member the old javadocs template

wide chasm
#

Well, in this case it's only the index to the javadocs that I changed.

acoustic basin
#

can someone help me with easybackup crashing

acoustic basin
#

pls help

zealous knot
#

Hold the fucking phone guys

#

This dude needs help with his plugin

worn ember
#

i mean, looks like a plugin issue

#

just report it

zealous knot
#

CaN SomEOnE PlS hElP hiM

worn ember
zealous knot
#

Bruh

#

Accents are just mouth fonts

worn ember
quasi valley
#

what are dialects then?

cosmic raft
#

The American Occupational Safety and Health Administration advises handling dimethylmercury with highly resistant laminated gloves with an additional pair of abrasion-resistant gloves worn over the laminate pair, and also recommends using a face shield and working in a fume hood.

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yike

quasi valley
#

oh boy

#

one or two drops

#

wow that's depressing

cosmic raft
#

yeah

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and those are small drops, too, not big drops

gilded iris
worn ember
#

i read about this a while ago

#

it slowly kills you

void void
woven otter
#

@worn ember i heard you're in charge can you help me with my question

worn ember
#

$10

limber knotBOT
#

@worn ember can you please pat ducco

woven otter
#

yes you can pay me $10

worn ember
#

/pay duck 10

woven otter
#

pat proxied mist

worn ember
#

yes

limber knotBOT
#

/pay duck -£10

#

(Vertanzil) Rosie and Jim: Soapy Duck - Pat Hutchins (1994) - length 11m 4s - 114 likes, 16 dislikes (87.7%) - 101,586 views - Adamski2851 on 2014.01.07

red mantle
wooden blade
#

looks like it suffered a psychological break and quacked under all that pressure

cosmic raft
#

Oof. $130 to upgrade from Windows 10 Home to Pro

limber knotBOT
#

Get gentoo

#

runs

cosmic raft
#

mum's desktop, not an option

void void
hot gorge
#

Why does your mom need Pro?

red mantle
#

I think the only thing pro adds is RDP access or somethin'

limber knotBOT
#

ur both dum

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well

#

the latter one is

#

it's not just rdp

#

it's also domain access, and access to management consoles such as gpedit

#

and a bunch of other things that makes life easier but if u dont care at all then home should be sufficient

cosmic raft
#

@red mantle RDP is the reason, yes

golden gust
#

rip

red mantle
#

doesn't have extensive knowledge of a bloated, outdated operating system
called dumb

golden gust
#

Welcome to the internet

sharp shoal
ancient bolt
#

Yeah spotted is also a troll and I'm also equally annoyed and tired of

limber knotBOT
#

DEATH TO ROBOMWM

static badge
#

wow

hot gorge
#

If you need remote desktop, why not use something like VNC instead of paying $130 for 10 Pro?

void void
#

teamviewer performs better over shittier connections

#

but ymmv

golden gust
#

Using nomachine these days

void void
#

x11vnc and novnc for me

#

novnc can connect to x11vnc directly - if ws connection is proxy passed via nginx or something

#

.g novnc

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/novnc/noVNC -- novnc/noVNC: VNC client using HTML5 (WebSockets ... - GitHub: "VNC client using HTML5 (WebSockets, Canvas). Contribute to novnc/noVNC development by creating an account on GitHub."

GitHub

VNC client using HTML5 (WebSockets, Canvas). Contribute to novnc/noVNC development by creating an account on GitHub.

void void
#

i mean i haven't found a better vnc client for mobile yet

golden gust
#

vnc clients in general are pretty... yea...

pulsar wigeon
#

anydesk works pretty well for me

#

pretty sure it's made by ex-teamviewer people

proper cosmos
#

Server is using 4 out of 6 GB memory, but I'm still getting this:

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagLongArray.load(SourceFile:64) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagCompound.a(NBTTagCompound.java:418) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagCompound.load(NBTTagCompound.java:58) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagCompound.a(NBTTagCompound.java:418) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagCompound.load(NBTTagCompound.java:58) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.NBTTagCompound.a(NBTTagCompound.java:418) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-187]
...```
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F

fluid ore
worn ember
#

haha sponge on fire

void void
#

wtf yall on about

golden gust
#

ur bad

void void
#

:c

hot gorge
#

I use VNC viewer on my Pixel 2 and TightVNC on the computers.

#

Works great for me

red mantle
#

TigerVNC ftw

limber knotBOT
#

why is python so difficult to set up on windows

golden gust
#

because windows

limber knotBOT
#

watching a guide by some indian and i dont frankly trust him

#

Probally try steal my files and use my pc as some sort of slave for call center scams

void void
#

uhh

#

double-click on it

#

and it just works ™ ?

jolly sentinel
void void
#

correct

#

iz ez

limber knotBOT
#

i was watchiung a guide and it was asking me to install pip

#

not python

hot gorge
#

That's all I have ever done for Python for Winderz,

void void
#

pip is the package manager, dont need it, but is nice to have for installing libraries

#

just install python from python.org then install pip l8r

golden gust
#

I mean, you basically do need it these days rip

void void
#

oh rip

#

i dont use python (much) so

#

D:

limber knotBOT
#

im fairly new to it

golden gust
#

If you're just using it for toying yourself, you can probably just ignore it for now

#

But if you're compiling stuff from the webs, pip becomes a requirement almost

gloomy wagon
limber knotBOT
#

Python is fucking annoying

#

wuts up Vertanzil

#

Death to python

#

thats whats up

#

Apparently TIL Windows 10 is outdated

red mantle
#

you got it

limber knotBOT
#

I do agree it has some bloat compared to Windows 8 but outdated is something new

#

How can it be outdated

#

its only just come out

#

Also Protip all the bloat ware can be removed

#

mostly.

#

bloat I refer to is the design decisions - like making the start menu as another app that can be suspended instead of part of the system itsel

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itself

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idc about the app bloatware or whatever, that's ez 2 remove. It's all UWP anyways so ez to uninstall

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Didnt it always used to be like that or is that something new they did in windows 10

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which?

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start screen was part of file explorer in 8

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start menu as a seperate program

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just like start menu and etc.

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it's a windows 10 thing

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also still wish swiping from left edge would switch apps

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instead of just showing everything

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tablet mode is still atrocious compared to 8 :c

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Ive never used it tbh

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I've used tablet mode on desktops with a single screen. I like it cuz it suspends inactive apps instead of me having to actually minimize it

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it happens with virtual desktops too but I can't get myself to use them

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
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I always alt-tab to everything, and it's generally always to some recently-used app so I just end up messing up my virtual desktops

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or needlessly switching between them without caring about what's on where

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wut dat from billy

unreal quarry
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my server with 5 players online

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lol

gloomy wagon
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does paper support more than 4 cores

limber knotBOT
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zombi3 how many cores do u hav

gloomy wagon
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16

limber knotBOT
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15 too many

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but yes it does

gloomy wagon
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isnt paper multi core

limber knotBOT
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minecraft isn't multithreaded

golden gust
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The game runs it's primary tick loop on a single thread

limber knotBOT
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plugins and some paper features yes

gloomy wagon
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is there a way to make it

limber knotBOT
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but plugins and paper features do not take up much cpu

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no

golden gust
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No, not without a lot of re-engineering of the server

limber knotBOT
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unless u hav ultra big brain powers

gloomy wagon
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rip

limber knotBOT
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so, get learning

red mantle
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zombi3, if you're wondering about why your minecraft server is running so slow it's because 1.14 server is trash

gloomy wagon
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no its a 1.12 server

red mantle
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oh nvm

limber knotBOT
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1.14 may be trash but older versions r worse

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outdated

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o wait

gloomy wagon
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so i have 16 cores

limber knotBOT
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huh

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that's funny

gloomy wagon
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and only one is used

red mantle
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bot man is passive aggressive

golden gust
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For the tick loop, yes

gloomy wagon
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what about everthing else

golden gust
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Other things can use those cores

unreal quarry
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"everything else" is less than 1% of the game

gloomy wagon
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cuz my cpus suck single cored performance

unreal quarry
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you wont notice "everything else"

golden gust
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java itself, plugins, etc

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Single core performance is the important one, but high clock speeds on a single core CPU would be just as bad

gloomy wagon
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the cpus are opterons hich are decent with all cores but suck single cored

unreal quarry
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get a high end i7 desktop cpu

limber knotBOT
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well, all we can say is u made a bad purchase decision

unreal quarry
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or i9 if you find one

red mantle
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build something with a 9900k and use that lul

unreal quarry
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personally, i recommend the game-64-oc from ovh. its got an i7-7700k overclocked to 4.6ghz with 5.0 ghz bursts.

red mantle
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robo, about my earlier statement, i was being pretentious as a joke. windows 10 is okay, just bloated and the corp. that owns it sucks monkey butt

limber knotBOT
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hehe he said butt

golden gust
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macOS best OS

limber knotBOT
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Pffft Ubuntu

red mantle
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ubuntu gang

golden gust
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Yea, ubuntu is great

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For servers

unreal quarry
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ubuntu is great if you're an idiot

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sure

red mantle
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Only problem with ubuntu desktop is gnome

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billy probably uses arch GWtloLaugh

golden gust
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He's a debian nut

unreal quarry
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arch is good if you hate yourself

red mantle
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debian rolling is a pithole of trash though

unreal quarry
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debian is life

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i havent needed to distro hop since 2002

golden gust
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Yea, but billy