Since mojangs mappings don't include those
#general
placid thicket
unreal quarry
Find cpw's tweet that says what I just said
I'm not good with Twitter, or I'd search and link it
placid thicket
i am also not good with twitter ๐ i will have a look
void void
Twitter
lean fractal
@void void i am exaggerating but its does wonders to ram consumption
placid thicket
although, correct me if i an wrong, but i thought Searge was in charge of MCP
forge does do that... its a huge API
placid thicket
check the minecraft directory
unreal quarry
No clue who's in charge. I thought it was lex. Then I thought it was kashike.
Idek who cpw is lol, but he's up there too
placid thicket
lol, im just a bottom feeder passing what i have heard
azure wagon
acoustic pilot
Anyone with XF2 who uses TH Add-On Install & Upgrade? Shit keeps giving me a 403 for any resource I try to install by URL, but my user/password is right ๐ฆ
void void
perms?
acoustic pilot
I'm administrator so doubt it's related to perms on my XF
acoustic pilot
permissions are actually fine too yeah, because the php-fpm process is running as the user that owns the files
acoustic pilot
The Install & Upgrade add-on is actually failing to log into XenForo.com to download the resource I'm telling it to.
That's where the 403 is from
worn ember
oh boy
acoustic pilot
I'm actually getting the same exact error as this guy: https://xenforo.com/community/threads/install-and-upgrade.155156/page-10#post-1362022
Except it's a different resource
Oh wait, it's not the same exact error
Mine's this ๐ฆ https://i.imgur.com/0Luhplb.png
I don't see anyone else complaining about it so kinda get the feeling I'm the only one lol
I really, really don't wanna install add-ons manually because then I'd have to keep them updated manually too ๐
Looks like I can maybe connect manually installed addons with the install&update addon later when it starts working.
So whatever, maybe it'll start working later
eager adder
worn ember
weird
acoustic pilot
When I make a tax payment but I was off by $1 https://i.imgur.com/c7xpMkd.png
Triggered
warm owl
i know the feeling but did it backwards... yay 2 cent credit
upper flicker
I was reading the scroll back and apparently I'm dead
warm owl
you seem pretty alive to me?!?!
upper flicker
that's what I thought too ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
cosmic raft
checks @upper flicker's pulse
warm owl
shhh dont tell anyone, let them think you're dead ... run, you're a free man
ancient bolt
i should go to sleep now to make up for my lack of sleep
like just in general
i wish sleep worked like that
warm owl
imagine if we just had to sleep for like 24 hours, once a week, then not sleep for the next 6 days,
I cant decide if that would be handy or if i would get super bored
ancient bolt
light theme discord just looks weird
like not necessarily bad
just weird
jetbrains says the eap is out https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/09/intellij-idea-starts-2019-3-early-access-program/
and I got it on my work machine
but toolbox won't give it to me on my linux or macos machines
maybe if I uninstall and reinstall
yeah that did it
warm owl
so i randomly googled my name, and i came across this website:
https://www.locatefamily.com/
It has my phone number and full address.... what kinda sketchy shit is this website (also my entire family's names, addresses and phone numbers)
void void
It's called a phonebook metasearch engine
warm owl
thats creepy
void void
Have yourself removed from the phonebooks then
warm owl
makes sense
void void
combine a shitload of apis, aggregate the results
show it
boom, product
(i guess)
that's what kayak does
hot gorge
That's not how it works at all
hot gorge
I dunno I'm just trolling
warm owl
the weird thing is, my phone number isnt set up under my name as far as i know. The account is owned by me, but its a company account, so its registered under the company
void void
But is your name and phone number in the phonebook?
They aren't looking up your phone account
warm owl
whats a phonebook? (im joking)
void void
This is random as fuck https://puu.sh/EgaIB/ce562b8107.png
Her smile
Just randomly in the park eating rice
warm owl
hahahhaa
void void
Can't argue with that
hot gorge
Can't afford homes
warm owl
going to the park with my rice cooker tomorrow... PHOTO OP
void void
warm owl
im now searching my phone number, nothing comes up with my name. Good news is im "low risk" ๐คฃ .... its weird it shows up as a landline though ๐ค
void void
floral robin
cosmic raft
how
void void
20 bucks stellar, transferred to coinbase, sold, transferred to paypal, transferred to bank, bought memrise
(coinbase has some earn programs too to get random cryptos, so i sold some of those too and did the same steps)
hot gorge
I like Dell's panels
I have all Asus at work and home
Dual 4k at the office and single 4k with two 1080p screens on either side at home
cosmic raft
picture of home? :P
ancient bolt
tiny
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you know what else is tiny
cosmic raft
your brain
ancient bolt
^
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you compensating 
ancient bolt
yeah for my tiny penis
hot gorge
Yeah but
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rip
hot gorge
My house is better ๐
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is ur neighbourhood better
ancient bolt
hot gorge
I like my hood, hate the neighbors
Actually neighbors are okay, I just don't like people
ancient bolt
desk i found at office depot
its glass though, you said you don't like glass
I'd like something a smidge bigger too
cause im american after all
limber knotBOT
irc never forgets
cosmic raft
@void void https://youtu.be/y7ZEVA5dy-Y?t=58s
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Duffy - Mercy - length 3m 30s - 275,184 likes, 7,447 dislikes (97.4%) - 76,889,169 views - DuffyVEVO on 2009.06.26
cosmic raft
don't want to use gradle?
ancient bolt
i always use gradle
ancient bolt
I've never been to ikea
hot gorge
My desk is two ikea desks bolted together lol
cosmic raft
which desks are those @hot gorge
cosmic raft
fuck
unreal quarry
i have something like this https://www.amazon.com/Mecor-Tempered-Stand-Corner-Workstation-Furniture/dp/B01G8MRR8Q
without the tray thing
cause trays are dum
ancient bolt
glass doesn't get any dirtier than wood lol
cosmic raft
@unreal quarry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M68ndaZSKa8&t=2m10s
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) The Incredibles:No Capes! - length 2m 50s - 30,925 likes, 1,006 dislikes (96.8%) - 7,221,729 views - plat1numpriincess on 2007.04.03
cosmic raft
but replace "CAPES" with "GLASS"
ancient bolt
I quite like glass on my desk
it's much harder than most materials so it doesn't dent or scratch very easily
ancient bolt
and it's like 1/2 inch tempered glass, it's heavy (feels premium) and strong as fuck
vestal jasper
Mine's kinda similar to this
cosmic raft
idk what I'd get then from ikea
ancient bolt
oh fuck me sideways
i need some git fu
I rebased and handled merges, forgot to --continue, now I've made some changes outside of the merge resolution
is there an easy way i can keep those changes without including them in the rebase?
unreal quarry
.g xkcd git
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/1597/ -- Git - xkcd: "< Prev ยท Random ยท Next > ยท >|. Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/1597/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding):..."
unreal quarry
@cosmic raft
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nice desk
ancient bolt
nah I figured it out
cosmic raft
wtf
ancient bolt
leave the desk in the sunlight?
I've heard leaving it in the sun over time can make it pop
unreal quarry
i swear, mine should look like that. i've fallen out of my chair and kicked the glass with steal toe boots a few times and everything.
not even a chip in mine, tho
^_^
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how do you kick the glass part on your desk
ancient bolt
not a chip or a scratch
vestal jasper
with your foot
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more detail vic
ancient bolt
1/2 inch thick tempered glass is nothing to shake your fist at
vestal jasper
the edge / tip of your foot
unreal quarry
imagine sitting too far back in your chair and it flips backwards. your feet go up into your desk
static badge
huh
vestal jasper
see? with your feet
unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) My co-worker decided he wanted a standing desk : iiiiiiitttttttttttt - 103 comments, 4,925 points - tsaven, 2y ago
ancient bolt
I would rather have a normal wood-top desk with a nice glass top on it
juust in case something goes south with the glass
cosmic raft
i can't find a desk in the corner like that
what would it be then
just two straight desks?
like a LINNMON?
ancient bolt
void void
[12:45:56 WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 3963668ms or 79273 ticks behind
celest coyote
Hoe many hours is that
void void
one
unreal quarry
ya'll remember that tv show that stopped hackers by unplugging the monitor? I think i found something better...
unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Limitless Hard Drives - length 15s - 666 likes, 6 dislikes (99.1%) - 56,472 views - joshdw on 2016.03.18
void void
what about people who think the tower is called a cpu
Wow I never actually noticed him pulling out a fucking PSU when I watched that show
Probably cause I was high as fuck
But who knows
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) NCIS 2 IDIOTS 1 KEYBOARD - length 51s - 17,023 likes, 557 dislikes (96.8%) - 3,372,665 views - Ricardo Figueiredo on 2010.08.20
void void
Yeah that one is more blatantly pure fuckery
ancient bolt
the backend of gradle kotlin DSL has some nuts naming
RegisteringDomainObjectDelegateProviderWithAction
pulsar wigeon
backend of gradle groovy dsl does too to be fair
primal barn
cosmic raft
void void
i used coffee in my textbook
can vouch for the efficacy
wait this is their actual twitter account not a meme
wow
oh lord
i didnt notice that at first
cosmic raft
:D
void void
guys if you have a big lag animal farm on your server just do this command (for example if cow farms):
/execute at @e[type=cow] run summon cow
cosmic raft
void void
what is this trend wtf
you wont sell products if youre not quirky on social media, get with the times mate
cosmic raft
Twitter
dusk drift
gotta get the 0.1% of people that read books 
void void
.
void void
looks like some young minecraft player took think's domain?
been like that for a while, i though that was literally think's weird ass blog
and i had the same question about the top post
yeah see the first blog post?
yeah really weird
lol youtube had put me in an ab with a retarded top-down recommended listing
so i sent feedback saying it was literal shit and remove me from the ab
just checked
removed from ab
ancient bolt
He doesn't go by that name anymore
void void
understandable, just weird that a minecrafter took the domain
ancient bolt
I think someone just registered it
twin fiber
Hey guys, sorry for the odd question but I really don't know a better place to ask - there's a weird problem/potential bug happening on my server where certain players are dying from starvation while afk. They're definitely not moving, getting hit or anything yet they keep starving. Anyone ever had to deal with something like this?
cunning badge
limber knotBOT
oh no
my amazon package has entered the shadow realm https://i.imgur.com/cNIDBx4.png
dusk drift
hope he does it
limber knotBOT
My exception/error message should contain a file path. Should I just add File#getPath() or the absolute path File#getAbsolutePath()? What is more common?
zealous knot
limber knotBOT
Oh I forgot the canonical path File#getCanonicalPath().
wooden blade
Man, bbcode sucks; why can't md_5 support Markdown for posting resources? Thought I was going to gouge my eyeballs out.
zealous knot
What are you talking about bbcode is where itโs at 
heady spear
BBCode isn't even that bad
acoustic pilot
XenForo 2 can use convert Markdown to BBCode, but that'd require updating to XF2 ๐
Otherwise doesn't seem like worth the effort to add it.
limber knotBOT
mfw I have to e-mail people to let them know they're incompetent
what kind of professional translator does not know what a translator's note is
worn ember
what
dapper nacelle
I'm back to enlighten yall with my intelligence as an intellectual
wide chasm
leaves guild
quasi valley
sounds reasonable
half tartan
pure condor
worn ember
haxxor
kind relic
placid thicket
So nba2k20 is now the second worst game of all time on steam...
woeful hull
so who's looking forward to that 1.16 cave update next year? lol
placid thicket
at least the groundwork for it. they may still just leave it to modders to do
dusk drift
its not announced till MC
woeful hull
the ground work for it is hidden in the snapshots of 1.15
Showing 3d biome concept in F3.
Thus setting into context the concept of certain mobs only being found in certain underground biomes and so forth.
wide chasm
So, speculation?
woeful hull
it was talked about by xisuma in his latest video on snapshots
quasi valley
also who said it can't already happen in 1.15 
woeful hull
because they already officially announced the patch type for 1.15 which is bees and bugs... tho it could end up in 1.15 but that's doubtful because they REALLY need to be working on all the bugs and performance in 1.15 and going away from that wouldn't really sit well with the community at large who really want multi player to be a bit better, but they are also attempting to blur the line between java and bedrock... which doesn't sit well with me either...
because it means we're closer to that whole java going into market place garbage...
woeful hull
eh... you give little credit to the power of greed.
woeful hull
um no
quasi valley
everything is possible if you just believe in it enough
woeful hull
how do you think most concepts work Hexxed?
quasi valley
especially if you're owned by microsoft
woeful hull
they slowly ease you into it all
they slowly add one feature
then another, and another
until "oh crap wait... NO!"
ask people in their 80s and such about what they realized was changed and never should of, but by the time it happened it was too late.
it's a known practice that's been used time and time again for the past 300 years, slowly conditioning you to accept something you originally didn't wish to have.
for longer actually but yea
wide chasm
I don't see why they would develop both a Java version and a Bedrock version, since you already have Bedrock for Windows 10. If they make both versions equal at some point, might as well throw Java out the window.
half tartan
oh well, Java is not making enough money, we're shutting that down 
Doesn't that sound like some (put big Game Studio Enterprise here) stuff?
woeful hull
well put it this way, when java is gone so is a large bit of the community to be honest. Because java is modded.
quasi valley
dont underestimate bedrock
half tartan
Does Microsoft care? Do they make any money from mods?
wide chasm
If they put proper modding tools in Bedrock, you could aim at moving the community to Bedrock.
woeful hull
yea... but thing is...
all the old mod packs from java won't be in bedrock
and a lot of those old devs are gone
half tartan
I'm pretty sure theres a big chunk of console and mobile players
and they don't play on java as far as i know
woeful hull
and you can't expect someone to go and redo all of that into bedrock
dusk drift
hope they delete java
unkempt drift
Booo
woeful hull
I hope they get rid of bedrock and merge it into java lol
unkempt drift
Java version best version
half tartan
Not gonna happen any time soon
wide chasm
Well, if they wanted to do that, then they should first put proper modding tools in Bedrock, try to get people using that and after that slowly get rid of Java. That way part of the community has already adjusted to Bedrock modding.
unkempt drift
Yeah
woeful hull
nope but with 1.15 snapshots it's looking like they're attempting things
wide chasm
The only parity done for now were three game rules, though.
vestal jasper
When did people start adding an extra "g" to "lag" and why
unkempt drift
Lagggg?
quasi valley
cause they already are essentially the same, arent they
woeful hull
um no they did a few game mechanics as well
quasi valley
at least feature wise
woeful hull
you haven't been paying attention stefvan
wide chasm
What have I been missing?
woeful hull
they've done a few things like the sponge thing from bedrock in the nether.
vestal jasper
There's people who say "lagg" whenever they say it instead of the traditional "lag"
wide chasm
As far as I know, only three 1.15 snapshots have been released.
wispy seal
redstone is a lot more diff on bedrock
woeful hull
and a few other minor mechanics not just the game rules
wide chasm
Was that sponge thing in Bedrock before then?
woeful hull
it's been in bedrock
wispy seal
tbh wouldn't mind java into bedrock merge if we had similar tools
woeful hull
then again I might of watched the video wrong lol
wispy seal
bedrock performance is stonks
dusk drift
^^^^
hot gorge
I will only go to bedrock if they make redstone behave like it does in Java
dusk drift
biggest reason why I like bed
woeful hull
they're also trying to make redstone similar as well between the two
placid thicket
gotta love it when you have a log file that is too large for ubuntupaste/pastebin
dusk drift
I'd take the the performance at the cost of the store anyday
woeful hull
I wouldn't
hot gorge
Yes
dusk drift
Would be super cool for mojang to make stores for servers where u buy shit with the minecoins
woeful hull
but if it's bedrock getting a change to their redstone that would be a lot better to be honest
dusk drift
and they just take lil cuttie
wide chasm
Well, might be both, I have the feeling the moment the devs add an additional space in the code redstone somewhere changes again. /s
woeful hull
I really do not want a store, I never wanted a store, it's just a way to force you to go through a store to get some cool skin. If the store ever gets added to java I'm quitting Minecraft.
wispy seal
I doubt they'll add a store into java ed
woeful hull
not paying money for stuff I can't test first to see if the author is worthy of giving money to lol
hot gorge
I just wat bedrock performance with everything else java
woeful hull
they're working on the performance, if anything they just gotta work on that java code lol
which I think behind the scenes they are slowly trying to fix it
I mean they did release that bit of info for the modding community
because wasn't there a guy who was part of the modding community who tore apart the code and so forth, but then got hired by mojang?
like way back during the whole EULA thing
and bukkit fall out
placid thicket
that would be Searge i think
half tartan
I hate BE because they literally put the store thing in your face
woeful hull
so maybe the guy's been pushing to try to get some info to the community for a while, and finally got it out there after 5 years lol
golden gust
Dinnerbone
wispy seal
they use java ed more as concept/testing grounds imo
golden gust
Dinner started bukkit iirc
golden gust
Searge was mcp too
wispy seal
more of a playground for devs
golden gust
So, ๐คท
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was it him who did
woeful hull
but yea toycat made the comment about the store icon on BE
slowly getting bigger and bigger and will at some point be half of the screen lol
I can see it now "oh you want to play your single player world? that will be 10 mine coins!"
golden gust
grum is also one who worked on bukkit quite a bit too
wispy seal
surely both of you infiltrate mojang for us
half tartan
@woeful hull thats why i dont like it
woeful hull
that's why I'm quitting if they ever throw it into java
wispy seal
they won't throw it into java
unless some higher executive pushes it
everybody internally would be against it IMO
woeful hull
oh i so bet you they've tried pushing it, but those with brain cells told them no
queen rapids
just curious, does spigot have someone at mojang they can ask to see if they're going to get pissed if they put the mappings in the src
woeful hull
?
wide chasm
No
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no
queen rapids
yikes
placid thicket
if i understand what i was told earlier, paper will not be able to redistro the mappings, but i think that is already circumvented by build tools no?
wooden blade
1.15 Release Notes: Added more Bugs
pulsar wigeon
i mean, bees are bugs
dense cove
unreal quarry
ugh, the amount of plugins that have bugs on 1.14 and no one even realizes is astounding. most of the public plugins I use on my own server i've had to fork and fix
tbf, its mostly the plugins that have convoluted their build setups to support 1.8-1.14 that have fallen victim to it
uncut moss
unreal quarry
even worse on the plugins that are bigger than bukkit and reach out to sponge and even forge
wide chasm
But I need to support every version on every platform!!!
uncut moss
support 1.4.7 or no download
unreal quarry
its always the little things, too, that go unnoticed for ages.
worst part, i cant even pr that change back to them because it will break their 1.8-1.13 support lol
uncut moss
I mean i've never heard it before
wide chasm
This is why I only support 1.14.
quasi valley
language, such an astonishing concept
pulsar wigeon
billy, tbf matthew is stretched pretty thin and craftbook is pretty niche
unreal quarry
not meaning to call him out specifically. this is most plugins
i had to fork dynmap for similar reasons
pulsar wigeon
also bukkit just massively breaking api in 1.14 isn't helpful either
unreal quarry
and many more
wide chasm
Our precious materials need to be preserved via bytecode magic, but everything else we just throw in the bin immediately.
unreal quarry
i hate the bukkit material class, tbh
pulsar wigeon
also that was 1.13
1.14 has its own set of breaking changes
that's why i just dumped 1.13 support in WG master
quasi valley
kind of makes me want do die everytime i make a plugin
forgetting to set the api version
wide chasm
I still don't see why the entire material thing was needed, but okay, I guess.
unreal quarry
only reason i even notice these things is i want to add barrel support to many plugins as a chest alternative. craftbook was one of the first i noticed :3
in doing this all these bugs just light up my IDE
lol
i wish plugin devs would just make a jar-per-version like they do on forge. keep things simple.
quasi valley
oof
pulsar wigeon
billy
golden gust
jar-per-version doesn't solve the overall issues with compat
pulsar wigeon
do you understand how the bukkit community works
wide chasm
I did that in the past and then I dropped multi-version support altogether!
pulsar wigeon
- everyone just downloads the latest fucking jar anyway
golden gust
Wait, I misread
pulsar wigeon
- that's a huge amount of work for devs to maintain
unreal quarry
me, too stef. i personally only support latest. everyone else can fuck off and use legacy plugins for their legacy servers ^_^
pulsar wigeon
i wish plugin devs would just make a jar-per-version
i personally only support latest
"everyone but me should have to do work!!"
unreal quarry
if devs did the jar per version they would quickly realize its pointless and soon become latest only
then the community might actually advance for once
golden gust
You're assuming that jar-per-version changes literally anything
All it does is change the project layout, at best
unreal quarry
it keeps things split up in the project layout so that when i want to add barrels i dont break 1.8 builds
golden gust
You'd do that anyways in a multi-version project
(Assuming that you can't just get away with API based stuff)
vestal jasper
tbf spigot doesn't really make finding the right jar for your version easy
bukkit's nice with that
but spigot doesn't give a fuck apparently
wide chasm
Bukkit's plugin website is overall nicer imo
golden gust
Well, bukkits using something that was actually made around this
Spigot just chucked up xenforos resource manager
pulsar wigeon
i still occasionally get people using WE/WG 7 on 1.8 or 1.12 tbh
but it would probably be a lot worse if we were on spigot
unreal quarry
yeah, i forget how bad spigot's site is. been awhile since i posted any plugins there
protocollib did it right, imho, though
they linked to specific download on the top of their description
wide chasm
I'd add those links, but then people probably think I actually support those old builds, which I don't.
vestal jasper
imagine downloading a plugin and not even bothering to read the description
pulsar wigeon
like sure you can slap a bunch of bandaids on, but the end issue is that the majority of people who run or want to run a minecraft server are fucking retarded
quasi valley
I like PS' site for downloading old builds
it just perfectly shows what people do and expect
vestal jasper
LOL
quasi valley
it's just perfect
quasi valley
and don't you dare even think that there are no people still asking for support
pulsar wigeon
fuck this coloring tho
wooden blade
Sounds like a great promotional message, I think I'll start a hosting service for those in the community: "People who run or want to run a minecraft server, but are fucking retarded."
vestal jasper
golden gust
Your first mistake was assuming that people have the capacity to read/think
wooden blade
What are those strange assortments of runic symbols that you just threw at me?
quasi valley
reading is hard, yea
vestal jasper
also @wooden blade your first mistake is assuming people won't be too retarded to use your service
wooden blade
Netscape or go home
fresh crow
wide chasm
Just read the page's HTML, CSS, JS and everything else and imagine the website in your head.
vestal jasper
Every time I see
Version? I'm using the latest version. Your jar is 100 versions out of date.
I die a little inside.
or
You're using an outdated build of spigot.
I'm using 1.14.4 there's no way my jar is out of date
wooden blade
I'll just send them a device that has a slot for inserting 'bitcoins'; while they're playing Frogger, I'll tell them how to solve one small problem, for each installment of funds.
quasi valley
or are you on x? - yes
can you send a plugin dump? - plugin version: y
pulsar wigeon
o boi
unreal quarry
You can blame that one mirror for that, Kenny. They put up 1 build for each version. Lol
pulsar wigeon
some shitty server hosts out there just offer the first 1.14 build
so none of the api for 1.14 is in
wide chasm
Hey, I had to help someone find his log files once, because I needed them for his issue. It took three days and then he just gave up.
pulsar wigeon
and then people try and run anything depending on 1.14 and it breaks
vestal jasper
Yeah 9/10 times that's the case wiz, was a big issue when spigot kept doing mappings changes in 1.13 when I was in the fawe discord
unreal quarry
Lol stef
wooden blade
He was probably looking for acacia logs
vestal jasper
Also I love when users ask plugin devs for support and then act like they're smarter than the dev on the subject. I'm using the latest version of the jar. No you're not. Yes I am. Run /version Oh.
unreal quarry
Let me Google what a client log is
golden gust
See, my fave people are the ones who expect that you're going to spend the next hour or so tryna get them to provide basic info they shoulda provided in the first place
wide chasm
Problem is that I usually actually do that.
wooden blade
Well the reason developers and IT personnel have job security, at least for now, is the relative ignorance of a vast majority of people; so it's kind of a two-edged sword. At least until the HAL 9000 arrives and makes us all obsolete.
pulsar wigeon
that's why we have a bot command that tells people to upload their logs
quasi valley
"guys can you tell me why my server crashes :/"
vestal jasper
I also love when people send random blurry screenshots of half of a stacktrace in their console
pulsar wigeon
no logs = no help
wide chasm
Previously I only asked for any stacktrace, but people couldn't correctly copy/paste that, so now I ask for full log as well.
golden gust
Back in the past, I actually kinda used to try; Now it's just, effort
pulsar wigeon
stacktrace is useless most of the time
like they'll miss the whole "caused by" blocks
vestal jasper
full log is easiest.
that way you can also instantly tell if they're running 1.8 on your plugin that only supports 1.13/1.14
pulsar wigeon
^
quasi valley
people screenshotting the very first line
wide chasm
Well, I hoped that users were smart enough to include that, but I've learned since then
golden gust
screenshots timings
pulsar wigeon
full log tells me: server version, other plugins, plugin versions, etc as well as any stacktraces
golden gust
Hey guys, why lag?
quasi valley
why u no help me
vestal jasper
fighting with the user back and forth trying to get information is also just annoying
give me everything and we can get it done in like 5 minutes instead of 5 hours
spring wedge
hi Vicarious 
placid thicket
Reminds me of that guy that refused to share timings because people could steal his server
uncut moss
lol what
unreal quarry
quasi valley
๐
vestal jasper
hi
heady spear
hello people
wide chasm
Hello, you're just in time to share your "users are dumb" stories
heady spear
Oh my God I have too many to even begin
I used to be active in the PlotSquared/FAWE server
vestal jasper
wow really?
heady spear
sometimes ye'
vestal jasper
you're the p2 guy? 
heady spear
no that's matt
vestal jasper
who's matt haha lol I meant the old p2 guy
heady spear
https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/issues/2501
Although this is both users and developers being stupid tbh
I mean follow the bloody format it's not that hard, but also don't close issues that can be confirmed by looking through one file for two seconds just because they didn't include their server logs
vestal jasper
woah matt b is a dev :O
heady spear
https://github.com/IntellectualSites/PlotSquared/issues/2503
this is a good boy
he's even using my paste service thing
Guys is it normal for veins to be inflamed?
My blood hurts and it's annoying
heady spear
I mean the blood obviously doesn't hurt but the areas were the blood would be are hurting
My surgeon thinks it's from the calcium IV drip, and that it basically irritated the inside of my veins lol
wide chasm
the blood would be
Does that mean that there currently is no blood there?
heady spear
Not neccessarily
I mean I don't want to open up to check, so there may or may not be blood there
At the hospital they gave me morphine for this shit, but they expect me to just sit here and pretend like it's fine at home lol
wide chasm
I guess you could call the hospital
heady spear
Yeah so I mean I'd pretty much recommend not getting hypocalcemia to you guys
It's a huge waste of time
void void
Yeah I took a look at this white theme and it's disgusting.
Also, fonts changed....Gross....
heady spear
it's improved :)))
void void
Ergh..
heady spear
I really hate their white theme, it's pretty gross
pulsar wigeon
you need to drink more milk city
heady spear
And the font changes were really annoying indeed
void void
heady spear
no I need my parathyroids back working ๐
void void
Can I go back to the smaller font...
pulsar wigeon
you need to drink more milk anyway
void void
There
pulsar wigeon
you can change font size in settings
heady spear
Possibly.
void void
Wait, wtf...it changed the username size too
Usernames should be bigger than the message text
Discord stop
heady spear
Yeah I lowered the font size but now it's too small
raise it a single stop and it's huge
idk why they felt the need to ruin all text but I mean go ahead
heady spear
text in the channel list is still fine tho
and the user list name sizes are fine for me
although the roles in there are tiny
pulsar wigeon
you will conform. discord's design is perfect. do not resist.
vestal jasper
I mean it's possible they'll fix it in later updates
pulsar wigeon
dumcord
heady spear
wiz is stupid
vestal jasper
they made changes to make light theme easier to manage
heady spear
You're easy and I manage you
vestal jasper
yeah ok weeb
heady spear
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(DiscordBot) Mohombi - Bumpy Ride - length 4m - 879,423 likes, 24,780 dislikes (97.3%) - 189,717,839 views - MohombiVEVO on 2010.08.06
zealous knot
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(DiscordBot) deadmau5 - Monophobia (feat. Rob Swire) [Official Video] - length 3m 38s - 116,971 likes, 6,225 dislikes (94.9%) - 9,281,414 views - deadmau5 on 2018.07.16
zealous knot
Watch this instead of citys garbage.
quasi valley
[Official Video]
zealous knot
[p]
heady spear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK73iOS5C8I
this shit is like all over scandinavia now, shit slaps
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Gabrielle - Tenker pรฅ deg - length 4m 42s - 865 likes, 6 dislikes (99.3%) - 17,952 views - GabrielleOnVEVO on 2019.08.23
vestal jasper
M
quasi valley
Vevo
quasi valley
sounds reasonable
heady spear
I mean yeah, that's for sure a dumb ass user. The language doesn't look to well on GitHub imo but who gives a flying fuck ๐คท
quasi valley
but yeah holy moly imagine storing important notes on hastebin
zealous knot
Bro I feel sorry for customer support people, I never call them as to not make their job any more frustrating.
heady spear
imagine storing important notes on any publicly available file sharing service to begin with
Lol my best friend works at the Zara phone line and people are fucking nuts
some lady got really angry because she couldn't explain how the clothes would look on her?
And someone sent an empty box to them demanding to get her money back for the items she never sent back
zealous knot
Does that friend look like somebody who'd work at Zara? I have a theory that there's only 1 type of people who work there.
heady spear
I don't think so tbh but your view might be different from mine ๐
zealous knot
Why are we working on this stupid minecraft shit when we still can't even beam thoughts over to each other.
heady spear
she's a fitness competitor and pretty much lives in workout clothes, she doesn't feel like the Zara type to me
Honestly yeah let's just work on telepathy instead
also fuck MIPS. I've spent 5 hours trying to get a bloody array of numbers to sort ๐
and it's going to get rejected because I didn't follow my professors dumb and hella random stack conventions
void void
golden gust
^ I told him that it's not worth it
pulsar wigeon
are they offering you a bj?
vestal jasper
@ wiz
ocean bison
I have this very weird error where File.exists() is true after file.CreateNewFile() but when i try to double click, interact or whaever with that file over windows, windows says the path does not exist
very very stuck on this
pulsar wigeon
invalid name?
ocean bison
pulsar wigeon
the fact that you have something to double click obviously means the file exists
heady spear
I don't know why Sheriff doesn't do that anymore
also why the hell did he go into IS to complain about being banned in EH while tagging you? lol
pulsar wigeon
is "he's retarded" a valid reason
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mfw wiz calling other people retarded
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if I'm the king ur one of my subjects
pulsar wigeon
it's ok i've never been one to give a shit about authority
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wiz confirmed anarchist
upper flicker
Rejecting leaf isn't anarchism, it's just rational behavior
woven otter
eating ur tacos also rational behavior
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he said authority not me z
upper flicker
Context matters leaflet
vestal jasper
burn the leaf
upper flicker
Your responses are as low energy as your pfp
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excuse me
woven otter
chonkleaf's avatar something weird again
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are you insulting the glasses
woven otter
not only glasses
quasi valley
everything
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woven otter
did you happen to steal my glasses
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tbh they're generic so no
quasi valley
definitely stole duck's glasses
now you just have to remove them out of your pic, duck
woven otter
ur generic
i wanted to say some creative insult but then remembered that being leaf is insulting enough
limber knotBOT
Quack
placid thicket
nothing to watch because everything is 9/11 tributes for the next week
woven otter
Quack
wooden blade
Welp, plugin adaptation X-ified.
safe gulch
woven otter
https://hastebin.com/dixodutila.java
what about changing that balance in MT?
Pretty much balance ever changes in main thread but getBalance is called from both different thread and main thread
uncut moss
bright ermine
@golden gust for travertine when I run this command ./travertine b and have changes to the travertine-proxy all my changes get reset to how they were on the github repo
how do I fix?
golden gust
Please don't ping me
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golden gust
rebuild patches before you build, or just build with maven
bright ermine
how do I build them with maven again?
golden gust
mvn package
bright ermine
yee ty
lime venture
hearty mauve
bright ermine
bad packet ID, are mods in use!? Did not read all bytes from packet class net.md_5.bungee.protocol.packet.EntityEffect 29 Protocol GAME Direction TO_CLIENT```How do you fix this?
Electro?
nimble swift
placid thicket
anyone got a good user error story?
unreal quarry
my best user error story is the time i spent 4 hours debugging why I couldnt ignite a nether portal, only to finally realize I was using shears the whole time
void void
placid thicket
hah, that'd do it
golden gust
Easiest option is to get rid of the forge race condition patch
Otherwise, work out wtf those mods are doing to cause that
stone girder
worn ember
@placid thicket I just spend about 3-4 hours trying to figure out why imgur wasn't accepting my request only to realize I didn't set the content-type header
It's always the little things ๐ ๐
lapis sequoia
Hey guys, I haven't stayed up to date with 1.14 for the past few weeks, how's it looking now in terms of stability and performance? ๐ still a raging dumpster fire or?
celest coyote
no longer a dumpster fire but a smouldering pile of shit still
void void
its pretty good if you dont plan to have more than 15 players
lapis sequoia
Ah I see, cheers for responding guys!
How about 1.13?
I'm expecting about 30ish players so..
oak sand
placid thicket
well it depends on hardware mostly...
radiant heron
opal cedar
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happens
half tartan
epicminecraftgayming.freednsdyanmiciphe'scheap.free
vestal jasper
hot gorge
doap
unreal quarry
so, i finally tried out that EntityTrackerFixer plugin all the cool kids are raving about these days. Funny thing is, it actually made my TPS worse than before. On the default 600 tick interval I was also getting 10-20 seconds of lag spikes while it scanned the world for entities to untrack. Watchdog did not approve. Big laugh. Uninstalled. Do not recommend.
celest coyote
wow big suprise
limber cipher
lunar marlin
Anyone know that one plugin that had build symmetry but used citizens to have a version of your character flying around the build aswell?
shell vine
i tried it, made spawners not work for me
cloud pewter
worn ember
@void void kinky
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.g sextic equations
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oh 6 degree polynomials
worn ember
Ew. Not kinky anymore
void void
yes also known as a sextic equation
void void
ye
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they're literally useless
void void
yea
worn ember
Lmao
void void
i believe the point was to reinforce synthetic division...? idk
worn ember
Seems pointless? Get it? Cuz it's a curve
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on the bright side thank god for newton's method to find those fucking zeros
void void
that's literally all we did
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.g synthetic division
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void void
yeah :(
void void
thats why it took so long
highly guess and check
unless you find a lower or upper bound
then you can start narrowing
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are you required to use that method
void void
for now, yes, because i'm only in precalculus
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void void
he let us know that there is a more convenient method in calculus
but for now das wat we got
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yeah it's newton's method
void void
cant wait 2 learn
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use it to find the equation to divide by 
void void
oh hawt
unreal quarry
Fun fact: They teach calculus at the pace Newton wrote it
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source thx
void void
I honestly wish my class was faster paced
I'm in the "fastest paced" precalc class
and it's still too slow
"go ahead and try to solve dis"
leaves for 20 fucking minutes
comes back, u guys done?
no
leaves for 20 more minutes
like
im in a class full of retards
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go learn newton's method
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well just sit there and jack off or something
void void
lul
tawdry coyote
or for more fun tag wiz 100 times
void void
nah but i mean, im sitting here tryna progress and here's all these fuks not even working on the problem for a good 15 mins while prof steps out
i believe they're mostly all freshmen
they're like "hurrrrrrrr college...just like high school...."
"let me just fuck off in class..." "hurrrrr"
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snitch on em
void void
Doesn't help lawl, prof doesn't give a shit. He gets paid
acoustic pilot
Public school is free. Public college isn't (in the US). So are they just wasting their own tuition? lol
void void
Yeah, that's my point
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tell their parents
void void
But it still slows down the class, meaning potentially I'm going to get less instruction than if they would just pay the fucc attention
acoustic pilot
Why? Their money to waste lol
void void
Because they're also wasting my time
void void
yeah, I do
also, apparently...
this prof just skips chapters cuz "not important"
i asked him if we're gonna cover vectors
"no"
"but i have a book in my office u can borrow"
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vectors is not pre-calc 
void void
well there's a whole chapter in the book
im gonna read it anyway and borrow his book too
i guess
also lol
vestal jasper
I'm quickly starting to hate the LivingEntity class
void void
some of the class was confused on factoring out pieces of the equation near the end of the problem and the prof just went "guys. sorry. this is literally algebra 1. algebra 1. im not going to teach u it. good luck."
and one of the people in the class just got up and left
was gr8
vestal jasper
Procyon won't decompile it and idk any other automated ways to apply mappings that can work per class
void void
sounds like a great method 
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ye look it up
literally that thing demolishes polynomials
never factor one again in your life
vestal jasper
Can fernflower apply proguard mappings or just decompile? Because I have it decompiled.
void void
Factoring is terribly easy though
Like...
I don't understand why these fucks in my class can't do it
vestal jasper
I don't have proguard and from what I've seen it costs an unknown amount of money
vestal jasper
huh
vestal jasper
their site has multiple giant blue buttons saying "request pricing"
void void
oss
acoustic pilot
ProGuard is mainly used for shrinking jars, not necessarily obfuscation for obscurity reasons.
void void
there is commercial proguard and oss proguard afaik
acoustic pilot
One of the biggest use cases for ProGuard is Android development and everyone that does Android basically development uses ProGuard, it's definitely free.
vestal jasper
Good to know
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.g proguard mapping
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acoustic pilot
Yes it provides a remapper that takes the mapped txt as input
vestal jasper
From what I read the remapper only works on stacktraces
but I haven't actually used it so I can't confirm
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only on stacktraces
void void
i've seen a few things from the minecraft community for dealing with the mappings of course
vestal jasper
Yeah, Fabric's fork of Enigma was what I was using
But it uses procyon and procyon can't decompile a few of the classes, and one of the forks still has troubles
Hopefully I can get this to compile this year
acoustic pilot
Retrace isn't meant for sources, definitely it's for stack traces
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sourceforge downloads
void void
spotted seems to know
acoustic pilot
The assumption here is you have access to the unguarded source.
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unguarded
acoustic pilot
Releasing proguard-formatted mappings may not have been the best choice by Mojang.
void void
why's that?
acoustic pilot
Because it's less-than-standard in the Minecraft community for applying mappings to obfuscated sources.
Probably could've gone with something more standard.
void void
least effort
acoustic pilot
Yes, least effort for them, all they have to do is release a file as-is for the most part lol
And rely on the community to figure the rest out, as always
Not that it matters with the increased legal ambiguity any way
void void
do you think they'll ever fix performance?
vestal jasper
Yeah retrace specifically just works on stacktraces
void void
well...that would be what the name suggests
what else would you want something called re-trace to do
vestal jasper
I was told otherwise so I made an attempt
void void
Thanks Rosetta Stone. Learning something new every day. The grass is green, guys. https://puu.sh/EgDl7/657390f0f2.png
acoustic pilot
ProGuard is intended to be one-way, ReTrace exists for obvious reasons.
(which is why I was saying ProGuard mappings may not have been the best choice for Mojang to release lol)
void void
proguard is great tbh, shinked my 16kb jar down to 4kb lul
acoustic pilot
There are more standard formats within the community for doing exactly what Mojang was trying to do with that release.
void void
why are you learning phillipino?
Dahil ang kasintahan mo ay pilipina
oh dear god
i need to study more clearly
Dahil ang kasintahan KO ay Pilipina
:c
or mo if ya feel me
๐
must be nice
what must be nice
being a functional enough human to be able to get a girlfriend
haha i wish!
implying im functional and she doesnt just tolerate and take care of me
acoustic pilot
wait until gf turns into wife which then turns into 20 years of regret and losing half your shit
๐
acoustic pilot
I will never get married in California
void void
Oh same
acoustic pilot
Seems way too disadvantageous for the guy
acoustic pilot
And it's probably similar in many states in general
void void
Also going to live there, most likely
void void
Which is a big reason I'm learning
acoustic pilot
lol nice
void void
Gotta be able to speak if ima work there
void void
Yeah that's a thing :\
Won't be able to smokerinoe
drug BAD
I'll just get high on muh mahfucken adobo and shanghai
thanks dominos, very cool
acoustic pilot
dont tell me jack is the guy making your pizza
void void
i cant tell you how much i despise company's trying desperately to fit in with online culture
fucking hell, i've been studying too long starting to lose my capability to write english
company's
Iโm going to have so many conversation starters when he gets here
void void
exactly yes
worn ember
I hope he's paying for the pizza
void void
Now is your chance to get ang kasintahan.
whats the difficulty like on filipino?
it's not too bad
according to the us state department for native english speakers it's lvl 4 meaning it takes 1100 hours to become fluent so idk
pronunciation takes a minute, grammar lawl
the grammar is hard
im ignoring the grammar for now
indonesian and malay recieve a level 3 though
interesting
yeah i think it's mainly the grammar that pushes filipino to lvl 4
like german up to 2
actor focus vs object focus vs location focus
no tenses
just focus
you express time through aspect rather than tense
for example, to say "White House" you don't say "white" and "house", you have to link them with "ng" and then mark the subject with "ang"
"Ang Puting Bahay"
"Puti" is white by itself, but to say that the house is white you have to link them together
I find it nifty but some find it hard and tedious
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other languages ๐ฎ
void void
england best?
england is my city
prplz a better example
"Nakasuot ng T-shirt ang batang babae."
"Ang" marks the subject of the sentence, which is at the end in this case which throws some English speakers.
Anyway
"Nakasuot ng T-shirt" -> Wear (linker) T-shirt (marker) child woman
aka "The girl is wearing a t-shirt"
but literally it makes about 0 sense