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#general
vestal jasper
woven otter
are you
void void
ye
austere ivy
Hello.
void void
Are you going to ask us to look at your dumb website again
limber knotBOT
Ur face is a dumb website
void void
tyler1's face is on a dumb website
austere ivy
I have an extra computer, pretty old, not great, I have two questions. 1, what would be the best linux distro for it? I need something very lightweight and performant, performance MOSTLY over looks, however I would need a web browser and some app compatibility to be able to find and run things like say, a Minecraft server or a build server or whatever.
void void
limber knotBOT
I'm hip with the kids
austere ivy
- What should I use it for? Build server? Minecraft server? Minecraft dev server? What?
limber knotBOT
Probably CentOS
limber knotBOT
But any Linux distro really
austere ivy
Alright, say I wanted to run, a build server, or a Minecraft server (perhaps for dev), and maybe an sftp server, or pterodactyl. What would be the best Linux distro for that?
I don't mind a CLI if it means better performance.
vestal jasper
btw
celest coyote
if you mean for performance, it won't really make a difference
void void
correct, its gonna come down to your preference
they all run the linux kernel
you're asking about distros which have minor changes such as package manager, default desktop env (if you use one)...
different package repos
celest coyote
but for utility, security, convenience, etc its gunna matter based on your skill level
austere ivy
So you're saying Arch, Ubuntu, CentOS, Debian, all kinda have the same performance?
void void
not kinda
they do
they are all the linux kernel
when you say linux, you're talking about running the linux kernel
like i said
distros are ON TOP of it
they are minor changes between each other on TOP of the kernel
linux is linux...
vestal jasper
I doubt you'd really notice a difference between any of the distros performance wise, outside of their DEs I guess
But then again DEs like KDE prob won't be an impact until you decide to go crazy with its visual effects
void void
you should just do some reading about what linux is because it seems like you have no idea
vestal jasper
but if you're trying to run a server I doubt the DE matters at all :^)
void void
shouldnt use a DE on a 'server'
vestal jasper
ye
void void
just straight up shouldnt
vestal jasper
not really any reason to
limber knotBOT
X-forwarding FTW
void void
no thanks, ill work with cli
ancient bolt
still minnow
soft panther
cosmic raft
I really need to buy a UPS
static badge
buy UPS?
cosmic raft
a UPS
celest coyote
buy the whole UPS
woven otter
UPS
cosmic raft
wheeee
hot gorge
Kash, be careful and make sure your power supply doesn't need a UPS with active PFC
ancient bolt
I mean, it almost certainly doesn't
a decent AVR UPS will do fine in 99% of situations
probably more
stark temple
void void
yeah wat? I've never had a PSU that "requires" a UPS (with or without active PFC)
(that said, they aren't a bad idea)
(but not required)
void void
yea note i said with or without
teal field
void void
the amount of people that spell queue as "que" is astounding and bothersome
merry talon
stark temple
if I see someone post "que" I assume they're asking "what"
vestal jasper
the right half of the word is kinda redundant ngl
wooden blade
por queue?
vestal jasper
at least phonetically
wooden blade
or the fully lazy ‘q’
limber knotBOT
In Java, there's a queue and a deque
So there's that
Because fuck you that's why
vestal jasper
deck
hollow mountain
hot gorge
You can damage a PSU that uses active PFC if run on the wrong UPS, but whatever. Take your own risks
void void
Literally no one disputed that - I was saying that you dont even need a UPS half the time.
hot gorge
More directed at Demon. More and more power supplies are active PFC these days.
quaint dew
gloomy vine
warm owl
So many Shane's
peak dirge
Not going to win any awards, but an attempt was made https://gyazo.com/93d246ca0363f44ed650d2a84f0227d9
static badge
minecraft 
peak dirge
It's my first time dabbling in vector art.
steady valley
grand slate
Welcome
woven otter
no u
zealous knot
shut up kids
foggy spear
quasi valley
shut up nerd
void void
grand slate
@woven otter not even lying lmao i ate duck last night
quasi valley
at this point you really seem obsessed with ducks 🦆
vestal jasper
moreso than the duck himself
abstract wave
grand slate
Welcome
abstract wave
thanks
limber knotBOT
You are all quackers.
quasi valley
no u
dusk drift
grand slate
grand slate
carmine jungle
void void
lime quarry
zenith eagle
grand slate
Welcome all u ppl
simple vapor
rough hawk
worn ember
@grand slate Jesus
grand slate
I am duck jesus
bleak surge
grand slate
That project looks interesting
static badge
void void
yikes
reminds me that one dude from last party who literally had Peppa cup and drank beer from it
dapper nacelle
jaunty oriole
is that a jojo reference
dapper nacelle
It isn't a jojo refernce
quasi valley
looks like he grew kohlrabi on his head
viscid bone
https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper-1.7 is it the official link for paper source ?
Because with this source I have a problem. When I download it , I have any class in my project
upper flicker
That's the link for the ancient unsupported source
viscid bone
ok
viral cove
gentle shoal
grand slate
1.7.10 
hard steeple
heady spear
anyone here really familiar with mips? 😦
I'm trying to finish my assembly assignments and I'm very confused lol
lusty egret
worn ember
@heady spear im very familiar with nips 👀
steady valley
mossy tiger
grand slate
@worn ember no
void void
@heady spear what are you confused on
I'm not familiar with MIPS as in I haven't used it, but I can read the ISA and have a general idea
mystic dew
heady spear
I think I figured it out. syscalls are weird :p
void void
oh okay
dapper nacelle
private static final String[] names = ((Supplier<String[]>) () -> {
PreSetItem[] items = values();
String[] strings = new String[items.length];
for (int i = 0; i < strings.length; i++) {
strings[i] = items[i].toString();
}
return strings;
}).get();
simple, I figured out how to do complex inline initialisation
(ok tbh this is just baiting)
slate violet
limber knotBOT
ok so there's a smart tv in my building which is currently allowing me to broadcast to it
the temptation is almost overwhelming
it's like they want me to put baby shark on 24/7
quasi valley
just broadcast a video of some old man eating cereals
limber knotBOT
man I wonder if I sold modded rpis whose sole function was to automatically scan nearby smart tvs that allow broadcasting as well as open bluetooth speakers and hijack them with this masterpiece how well would those esll?
sell*
or even better just start dropping them across town
worn ember
i'd buy one lol
limber knotBOT
would you describe this as an act of mid psychological terrorism and light technological warfare??
s/mid/mild
Correction, <^-^> would you describe this as an act of mild psychological terrorism and light technological warfare??
worn ember
no
i'd describe it as people being retards
if they leave their shit open its their own fault
thats like putting a $100 bill on the ground and expecting people to leave it there, and call the police if someone picks it up and report it as stolen
heady spear
Every changelog message since updating to 1.14
robust quest
Maybe already brought up here, but Spigot is purging all resources that mention dependency on Paper (or another fork).
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/what-in-fs-name-is-spigot-doing.393490/
limber knotBOT
didn't even know you could upload paper builds on spigot before
seems like a great way of making sure you get constant complaints about it not working
golden gust
Not the first time
peak dirge
md_5 entitlement complex \o/
vestal jasper
I mean the mod did say he removed mention of support of spigot
limber knotBOT
how is that entitlement?
heady spear
Is it even that strange tho? If it’s not compatible with spigot, why is it on their website?
worn ember
imagine posting irc links on discord, illegal
vestal jasper
He literally changed it from
Spigot/PaperSpigot
To
PaperSpigot
peak dirge
spigot is best
down with the non-believers
down with the taco lords and cats and taylor swift
down with sponge
down with velocity
down with sillypad
limber knotBOT
@vestal jasper [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
@vestal jasper [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
lol
worn ember
@vestal jasper We're now known as Paper.
vestal jasper
Support spigot if you're posting a resource for spigot servers
limber knotBOT
make sure you download my gta 4 mods from spigot
vestal jasper
Is this where I find Skyrim mods?
limber knotBOT
dl my wii emulator too
peak dirge
is this where I download stuff to rice up my new Arch box
vestal jasper
btw
limber knotBOT
who wants to download my OG movie
peak dirge
who wants to stream a Gentoo compile
vestal jasper
Oh god
toxic harbor
peak dirge
emerge kde gonna take a while, get yourself a steak dinner
worn ember
do i post my pp pics on spigot?
vestal jasper
Dont make me compile llvm again 
limber knotBOT
make sure you download my adware
worn ember
link?
limber knotBOT
also my viruses
peak dirge
kanagrko memes
limber knotBOT
peak dirge
who wants to take my spigot course so u can be a millionaire from memecraft
only $1999.99
limber knotBOT
ew millionaire
vestal jasper
Me
vestal jasper
Make sure to shill out literally everywhere possible
Make your avatar a fucking advertisement
peak dirge
Level Achieved: Conspiracy Theory
What is the best way to add custom methods and variables to Player interface?
Kotlin Superiority Complex Activated
limber knotBOT
I do wish there was a clean way to do it
golden gust
goes back to huggling kotlin
vestal jasper
there is. Use kotlin 
golden gust
I mean, Kotlins way for doing it is gross too, at least with the JVM
But heck, it works
limber knotBOT
what a shining endorsement
dusk drift
soooooo
limber knotBOT
but I'm already having a fun time with java, don't much feel like learning a new-ish language rn
golden gust
with the JVM it basically converts them into static methods
dusk drift
when we getting a resource section on papermc.io ?
golden gust
it just looks more baked into the language vs being tacked on with static utils or gross compile-time hacks
ancient bolt
@golden gust what are you talking about
kotlin's way of doing it isn't hacky in the slightest
it's actually 100% compatible with Java APIs as well
golden gust
I didn't mean hacky like that; I guess I more means cheats 😄
grand slate
Iirc md5 was removed from bukkit's dev team because of spigot - so now paper exists he got mad at it. Even though he is a contributor too. I get that paper shouldn't be on spigot, but he looks a bit angry
limber knotBOT
@grand slate [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
quasi valley
to be fair that one removal mentioned up there seemed reasonable
golden gust
md's stance is that forks are evil, basically
grand slate
^ lol coming from md5
golden gust
The plugin still works on spigot
quasi valley
oh
grand slate
Md5, spigot. Also md5, no forks allowed.
But like... he was a contributor to paper right? 
golden gust
Nope
Spigot forked from bukkit pretty much for the same reason that paper forked from spigot
ancient bolt
the real history is spigot didn't fork from bukkit
craftbukkit++ did, which md_5 then took over after the guy who did it quit and renamed it to spigot
but yeah if there's one thing md is good at it's taking credit for shit he never did
grand slate
Ah right, makes him seem a bit less hypocritical. Thanks. But still, manages open source project, doesn't like forks 😔
grand slate
Yea ur right tbh haha
pulsar wigeon
hm? is his stance actually "forks are evil"?
or more like "i don't want to deal with other people's shit"?
grand slate
It seems indirectly, yea
pulsar wigeon
i was under the impression it was the latter, but i've never really dealt with him wrt that personally
grand slate
From what i've heard, it's both. Evil forks, and they're doing it a bit better than him, and a bit more work
Down with forks of open source projects!! /s
quasi valley
I doubt that it's that
ancient bolt
md_5 is extremely toxic to the community and hates contributors that don't listen to his way and his way only
that's including people who submit PRs to spigot (notice how spigot's activity is extremely low and has very few PRs actually getting merged)
his stance to a fork of his project is that x1000
vestal jasper
So hes like half the people who make plugins
ancient bolt
also he's the only person in spigot with decision making power to do anything, merge, review, etc. he doesn't trust anyone else to do those things and sees himself as better than everyone else
grand slate
I've seen his brackets, he's not better /s
fossil ruin
radiant heron
woven otter
@grand slate 🔪
celest coyote
only one with decision making power
didn't even create the project
thats an amazing con
ancient bolt
god i hate that city bites isn't open on the weekends
you can't select multiple toppings on a qdoba burrito on uber eats...
celest coyote
I was doing maintenance on my drive way today
and my arms are so out of energy
but its wierd, I don't feel tired
worn ember
yeah it happens
upper flicker
dusk drift
woven otter
F
violet ravine
grand slate
@woven otter u r an F
woven otter
@grand slate duck lover
stark temple
I have an odd question
I've started using waterfall to set up a unified hub of minecraft servers
I've set up an sql database for luckperms to unify the permissions of each server
I also created a seperate database for an economy bridge plugin
do I need to create a seperate database for each plugin that I want to point at an sql database
I'm not sure where to ask this so apologies if this isn't it
karmic void
void void
limber knotBOT
@urmamasllama that's for you to decide, you don't have to but if you absolutely want to make sure that there are no conflicts and have a slightly more improved security then a different database and user per plugin would hold some benefit
most people probably just use the same for most plugins that only have a couple tables
stark temple
I own my server hardware so I'm not worried about security so much
I did make sure to at least take the basic proper steps this was my first time in many years messing with sql
like I created a non root user to actually access the databases
limber knotBOT
it was more regarding plugins editing each others data or (accidentally) overriding them
limber knotBOT
but it's not really more secure becaue a plugin could just read each others data ¯_(ツ)_/¯
haven't encountered it once in 7 years
xD
stark temple
so its like using the ACS patch for virtual machines...
it poses a risk but no one has ever actually seen it go bad
limber knotBOT
well most plugins will use a table prefix or at least provide the option to set one
I personally only have logblock in a separate database so that backups of the actually necesarry database stay in a reasonable size xD
stark temple
it has been immediately amazing for luckperms because I can configure everything for all servers much easier to handle
idk what other plugins would really benefit
oh right if I do wind up using the same database what if I point multiple servers with the same plugins at the same database (not unified ones like luckperms)
like core protect which I'm about to add. do I just need to specify different table prefixes for each server?
actually I think for any plugin that uses a database not to share across I'll point at a database made for it's specifc server to avoid that nightmare
limber knotBOT
really depends on how the plugin handles things
stark temple
thx for the input it helped me think this through for any plugin that provides cross server features I'll make a database just for it.
for anything that is just for one server I'll make a database for that server and point all those plugins at it
mighty oracle
dapper nacelle
hello
minor iron
Hi
worn ember
👀
dapper nacelle
hot gorge
Minecraft is a game?
limber knotBOT
Hey amigos
cerulean jasper
worn ember
server ded
barren crow
hushed zephyr
potent bloom
half hawk
gleaming finch
hot gorge
Holiday weekend in the US.
limber knotBOT
yus
gleaming finch
you're not a bot are you
limber knotBOT
u r bot. u r dumcordian
gleaming finch
I agree wholeheartedly mr bot
stiff yarrow
Bots 👀
gray skiff
fallen oracle
Yo people
vestal jasper
hi
hushed zephyr
Hi
fallow peak
Hi
vestal jasper
Does having chat disabled also manage to completely hide armor stand text?
I swear to god there's a subset of people that join without the ability to see armor stand text
limber knotBOT
Why would you use PDFs
sand raven
fallen night
grand slate
Welcome
sand raven
thank you
void void
wise pebble
limber knotBOT
Linux
grand slate
All the way
quasi valley
his mixtape is just fire
wispy pond
faint warren
ripe brook
idle wigeon
somber patrol
hello
grand slate
Hey
somber patrol
i have a problem in my server, arrows from mobs doesn't damage the players
skeletons and pillagers and another mobs, can't cause damage to players
i really don't know why
reef arch
any one knows
that
someone is selling his custom bukkit
is it breaking GPL or GNU ?
pulsar wigeon
you should really read the license, or at least some summary/explanation of it
jaunty oriole
isnt gnu gpl
jaunty oriole
oh yeah what i was getting at is that it's called the gnu gpl
golden gust
Pretty sure that the license is available in chinese
reef arch
🤷
jaunty oriole
low otter
worn ember
do they have good base tho
earnest cave
earnest cave
hello
dapper nacelle
now join my server
earnest cave
haha sry i come for make my plugin
dapper nacelle
I was expecting such an answer 😄
limber knotBOT
baned 4 adverizing
earnest cave
i learn c, python,java language but i dont know how to make plugin in paper. you know where to learn it?
grand slate
@earnest cave read the spigot docs and paper docs
But java is the language you'll need to know
tardy lynx
What the packet sent when another player starts or stops sneaking?
quasi valley
it's sent in the entity metadata
earnest cave
@grand slate sry but how can i find it?
earnest cave
thx
void void
Wats the permission for tps?
gusty idol
Shouldn't the provided scope be used?
Why is Gradle using runtime when generating the POM?
dependencies {
implementation 'com.destroystokyo.paper:paper-api:1.14.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'```
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) 무협스킬 - length 2m 32s - 23 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 527 views - 녹사 on 2019.07.29
dapper nacelle
can anyone figuere out which sound this is
the sound that played from the 16 seconds to 20 seconds in the video
dusty holly
jaunty oriole
pitched up fireball sound?
onyx venture
Can you recommend me some good authentification plugin with auto login feature? Can be paid.
I found JPremium, is that good?
limber knotBOT
Why need an authentication plugin when you have mojangs auth servers? 🤔
jaunty oriole
it's free and it works well
upper flicker
Me trying to solve a problem with web dev https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-confused-i-have-no-idea-what-im-doing-xDQ3Oql1BN54c
wide chasm
The only thing I know about web dev is that you should use === instead of == for comparsion in JS.
upper flicker
isnt == for object equality and === for object identity in JS?
or is that backwards
oh please dont be backwards
wide chasm
Ehm, from what I've heard, === is strict comparsion and == is loose comparsion e.g. 1 == '1' works, but 1 === '1' doesn't.
upper flicker
christ even my conventions dont transfer
I used == for a string comparison
pls no kill
wide chasm
No, I think == just converts one side to the other via some stupid rules and then compares them similar to ===. So in the example above it converts the string to an int (or probably the int to a string) and then compares them.
I think you'd still use === for string comparsion on both sides.
grand slate
Setting up a 1.13 skyblock server soon, this bentobox thing seems like the only majorly supported 'plugin' but it's an addon for a plugin lol. i can already feel the lagg 😔 anybody any evidence to suggest it actually runs fine?
wide chasm
Here, this table shows what will match and what won't while using ==. [] == '' for example is true.
upper flicker
ugh
celest coyote
do skyblock servers actually lag
quasi valley
askyblock already went fine, and that is ancient, so bentobox/bskyblock shouldnt be worse
celest coyote
they seem pretty bare
upper flicker
tbh it probably needs gone over for all that sort of stuff anyway
clears throat
fucking js
clears throat some more
wide chasm
What website are you even working on?
upper flicker
Paper's
its probably not following all the conventions it should be
luckily the JS usage is minor
wide chasm
Probably not, I think let is even recommended over var these days (opened a file, saw var), but don't quote me on that.
grand slate
@quasi valley bskyblock, the newer one, is an addon for an addon
upper flicker
its been kind of piecemealed by multiple people over multiple years now
so yeah it wouldnt surprise me
grand slate
I can feel the lagg seeping out
quasi valley
bentobox is a plugin/base, bsykblock the addon
grand slate
Mhm
wide chasm
I wouldn't mind going over some files and doing some basic fixes such as these, but my JS knowledge is small - I'm not even sure what I'm telling you is actually correct.
quasi valley
and that doesnt make it bad tbh, it might just mean they actually have a good structure and abstraction
upper flicker
thats my issue as well, I dont do it enough to have the background knowledge
probably read up and just try to at least make it follow some consistent pattern soon
grand slate
Let's hope, generally these bases don't go so well tho
Too much bloat, I just want plain skyblock lol
quasi valley
¯_(ツ)_/¯
grand slate
Seems like this whole bentobox thing is bloat tho
For minigames lel, i just want skyblock ;(
Let's hope it's not
zealous knot
@upper flicker IMHO this type of websites should not guide how you write your code, this website displays by-the-book conventions that no one actually uses because they're retarded
wide chasm
Z, do you accept PRs on Paper's website?
zealous knot
basically write code that is shittier than the written convention but works and looks nice
upper flicker
some of it is arbitrary I agree
like there's a complaint about there being an h1 tag and an h3 tag but no h2 tag
but some of the stuff isnt really going to hurt anything to fix
zealous knot
upper flicker
@wide chasm yeah there's a little git branch icon on the bottom of every page that links to the GH
limber knotBOT
don't most web devs generally develop for a single browser engine anyways cough Blink
limber knotBOT
cuz standards, wat dat
upper flicker
I pretty much use firefox, safari, chrome, so thats the big three I care about
limber knotBOT
and it just happens to also be the most resource-consuming one too
upper flicker
but paper's site is simple so there's not much excuse to not support anything
limber knotBOT
EdgeHTML best battery
upper flicker
not like we're leveraging media or webgl or anything
zealous knot
do you have Firefox open atm Z?
upper flicker
yes
zealous knot
does https://mc-heads.net fucking break when you open it with firefox?
limber knotBOT
seems ok in Edge
zealous knot
edge 
zealous knot
Ohai chris
grand slate
Hello
limber knotBOT
I've been trying other browsers but they don't have key combos for things like address bar (f4), esc (pause gifs), duplicate tab (ctrl k)
grand slate
Pretty damn good
upper flicker
Looks fine
other than the discord embed falls into the sidebar on narrower resolutions
but I assume it does that on all of them
zealous knot
Okay cool so that's 3 supported browsers without doing anything 
upper flicker
monkaS
limber knotBOT
dumcord b dum
quasi valley
why is there so many glowing people
zealous knot
It's just people with a special display name :p
quasi valley
that color is a little unfortunate https://kennytv.eu/files/tplus.png
zealous knot
yeah i agree but fuck him
zealous knot
Chris i asked you for your username/uuid like 5 times
grand slate
I've known fix for an entire year
zealous knot
and you were retarded and forgot to answer me
zealous knot
wtf is that name
quasi valley
wot
zealous knot
@quasi valley I can give you a special display name too if you wanna
@grand slate GG
quasi valley
sure 
zealous knot
is there a taco emoji? i'm too lazy to find a taco icon 
quasi valley
I'd like a potato next to my name
upper flicker
🌮 U+1F32E
quasi valley
a beautiful pink
limber knotBOT
winkey + . brings up emoticon search on windows 10 if ur 2 lazy 2 find
zealous knot
any hex color works
unreal quarry
give him F68FE0
zealous knot
@quasi valley Oh what's your username 
quasi valley
same as nick, KennyTV
upper flicker
@zealous knot 2470A0
zealous knot
👍
upper flicker
oh no you made me demonwav
worn ember
fix just nub
upper flicker
wat
limber knotBOT
gratis
quasi valley
looks like alternate de 👀
worn ember
I9 64GB RAM lmao
worn ember
1.5TB SSD
worn ember
¯_(ツ)_/¯
minor iron
Does it list the specific drive?
worn ember
nah just SSD
minor iron
O
quasi valley
to play minecraft obv
worn ember
looks like trash too
grand slate
@zealous knot i don't see a special name say sike now. Also good u changed ur pfp back
zealous knot
@grand slate You didn't tell me what you want homie
upper flicker
❤
worn ember
when you gotta shit but you forget you gotta shit and you shit your shit
zealous knot
quasi valley
looks awesome, thanks 🥔 
limber knotBOT
dumduck
quasi valley
I wonder why ascalter has.. that many 
zealous knot
I thought somebody botted them but according to the access logs they're like 90% legit
quasi valley
maybe their devs are dum and request his skin constantly
zealous knot
Do you know him? i literally have no idea who it is
quasi valley
once was a mod at his old server. then he just f'ed of because he wanted to make more money and made a new one 
it's some german trolling youtuber
zealous knot
TIL that there's something more cancerous than a minecraft youtuber and it's a trolling minecraft youtuber
K then
quasi valley
as in having eula blacklisted servers (accessible because they evade it) with the worst and most child-with-creditcard-people oriented of shops ever to be seen
zealous knot
That just proves that children are fucking retarded
quasi valley
and constantly uploading obnoxious fake trolls
zealous knot
Why on earth did you risk your soul and become a mod on his server
quasi valley
I'm glad I didn't play something like MC on multiplayer when I was 10-14
quasi valley
uhh, not sure, I played on it for like a week on its survival server - then a friend applied, so I just did too and got accepted with like a 4-liner text 😂
quasi valley
math hard
zealous knot
well i'm pretty sure i played before i made the account so i probably played since i was like late 13
quasi valley
I think it was around 13/14 as well, but just played some singleplayer and with friends
dapper nacelle
that moment when you code something that works but you have no idea how it even works
ashen hedge
dapper nacelle
and every time you look at it your brain fails to comprehend it
zealous knot
tfw you write code and it works first try 
grand slate
@zealous knot oh just put like 'pretty cool guy' idk
grand slate
Idk what an mc heads is, i just noticef sparkly names
Ok give me the chef's reccomendation
I.e. idk u choose
zealous knot
okay im just gonna copypaste that style because i can't be fucked to think of something different'
<font color='#FC6100' style='background: url(assets/img/sparkle_pink.gif) !important'>{name}</font> <i class='twa' style='background-image: url(assets/img/custom_icons/Technerder.png);' title='Idiot'></i>
Or you can edit it yourself to your liking
grand slate
Yea i'm on my phone, but at some point i'll remove the dildo
grand slate
Paper book gang
wide chasm
Pretty fitting for this server
autumn beacon
crisp arrow
grand slate
true truw
frigid ferry
limber knotBOT
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wide chasm
Guess I'll have to buy an Amazon giftcard, my curseforge points are expiring 😦
zealous knot
unreal quarry
i had the same thought, @green edge, but they require tax information to be sent in to them. contacted them awhile back for the forms. they never responded. so my points are pretty much already gone ¯_(ツ)_/¯
radiant heron
wide chasm
They require tax information? I'm fairly certain I've gotten a giftcard before without entering that. Although that may be because I don't earn enough points - currently sitting at 230 with about 0.4 points/day.
Oh, now they do ask for it, huray! /s
Hopefully they get this done within ten days, otherwise I can't get my giftcard anymore.
ancient bolt
Man I wish I had a billion dollars
little brook
sweet vessel
Hi anyone knows how much ram does a bungee server needs ? +100 players ?
little brook
Hello there. I'm considering switching my server from Mojang's software to Paper, but I have some misgivings since it seems to advertise some fixes for "gameplay inconsistencies" - what does this mean? Are there any changes to redstone or other mechanics that are not found in Vanilla? I need to be sure my server experience is identical to singleplayer, just with additional players.
void void
it's not going to be identical, it won't be identical with spigot either
that said, it's not that different
players won't really notice
little brook
...Will a 9-year veteran redstone junkie notice?
void void
Entity ticking is optimized, mob spawns are optimized, there is an option to use an entirely new (-faster-) redstone system.
If you use the default redstone engine probably not. Maybe if you turn on the eigencraft redstone engine they will (it's off by default)
But I have doubts they would on that, too
little brook
So what are the differences exactly? Other than the game engine not being held together by duct tape and twist ties?
void void
Uhhh, generally the game isn't changed that much. It's just optimizations mostly. Just about everything is configured as vanilla would be by default, you have config files to edit whatever you want.
If you edit them, that's when it gets to be different than vanilla
little brook
So suppose we find a change that we don't like. Is it easy to convert my world back to Vanilla?
void void
Just switch the jar back.
grand slate
Or most likely you can turn it off
void void
(Or that)
grand slate
:d
little brook
Doesn't paper separate the dimensions into separate worlds?
That's what the documentation said.
void void
Yeah it puts them in separate folders.
I believe you can go into world_nether's folder and copy everything to world's DIM1 folder. Then world_the_end goes into world's DIM-1
Take a backup though
zealous knot
I think you're being too paranoid, the game is pretty much identical, there are no obvious changes besides the fact that the way the game runs makes actual sense
void void
Yeah, it really doesn't change the game. It provides config options that allow you to customize your experience.
By default, it's vanilla
little brook
I might be paranoid, but I have a reason to be. Last time something went wrong with my world we had to copy everything over with MCedit into a new world with the same seed.
void void
You can take a backup of your vanilla world, run paper, then diff the two folders and find the changes. I'm pretty sure all that it does by default is split the worlds out into separate folders.
Other than that the changes are contained in the jar
little brook
Although these days I'm not sure trusting Mojang's software over third-party software makes sense anymore... I'm pretty sure Microsoft cut the budget for Java and the current mess is the result.
zealous knot
Why does it separate the worlds into different directories btw? something to do with file I/O or something else?
little brook
Bukkit was the original one to do that.
zealous knot
pretty sure the shit before cb did that
little brook
Yeah, the OG bukkit. The one that imploded.
zealous knot
i remember running servers like like 2014 and the worlds were in different directories
little brook
Right.
void void
paper IS spigot which IS cb, so follow the line back up and paper does the same thing because no one ever changed it back (and it doesn't break anything so)
little brook
Never quite figured out why they did that. It might be so they can multithread dimensions or something, but why change the FILE structure?
zealous knot
honestly i found it quite convenient in the past
i had a rather populated server so the nether and end used to get raped within a week of each other, so replacing them with new ones was a breeze
little brook
Same in Vanilla. Just delete DIM1 or DIM-1
void void
they are still different folders in vanilla
little brook
That's what I did when the End got its big overhaul
void void
just different names
zealous knot
oh
void void
and contained inside world
zealous knot
So only thing that changes is the names?
little brook
I've also trimmed down worlds without MCedit by deleting regions and structure folders.
Works fine.
zealous knot
well then i guess it's purely for convenience, i don't imagine there's a reason other than that
void void
So anyway to answer your question, you just cut everything from the respective world folders and move them back into DIM1,DIM-1
little brook
I'm going to have to run some tests on a duplicate world or something I suppose.
void void
Only big thing is when world format changes, but this affects vanilla too
like you can't convert between 1.14 to 1.13
1.13 to 1.12
etc
little brook
Right, and we're already on latest of course.
woven otter
@grand slate ur bad
little brook
Which is why I need a new host that offers more ram for less dough, and possibly new software that doesn't suck icecubes.
little brook
Well, I could...
void void
all they do is buy a dedi, install the (((free))) pterodactyl panel, and then oversell it
little brook
Thing is my budget's pretty slim
void void
$50 dedi with 32gb ram, $6 per gb, sell 10 2 gb servers (leaving 2gb for OS), and they are now making $180 on a $50 server
welcome to shared hosts
a sham
ashen hedge
Not if you just want a small server
zealous knot
wait whut
ashen hedge
Not gonna fork out $50 a month for a 10 player server
zealous knot
where does one buy a $50 dedicated server
little brook
Yeah, well, if you can't afford 30-50 smackers a month, a shared host for 5-10 bucks a month isn't bad.
zealous knot
are these names?
void void
kimsufi is OVH 3rd level line, very cheap dedis
soyoustart is OVH 2nd level line, mid level price
OVH is their 1st level, normal price
all OVH
all gr8
zealous knot
what does that mean
void void
what do you mean what does that mean...
zealous knot
what's that first second and third level shit
void void
hardware generation typically
zealous knot
grand slate
@woven otter shut thy fuck up
zealous knot
thy
fancy
so you're telling me that for the small price of $50 a month i could make thousands of dollars by reselling stupid minecraft kids some cheap ass low tier shared servers?
void void
this is a kimsufi dedi, not amazing, but definitely not horrible for a small mc server https://puu.sh/EcfgE/132d3ef787.png
yes absolutely mister_fix
that's what they all do
zealous knot
what the fuck
woven otter
Jesus @grand slate you're rood
void void
you buy one dedi, start your business, make bank first month, buy second
it scales right the f uck up
zealous knot
Can you send me a link to the one with the terrible fucking name?
peak dirge
so you're telling me that for the small price of $50 a month i could make thousands of dollars by reselling stupid minecraft kids some cheap ass low tier shared servers?
Yes! I've done it before...
peak dirge
And dreamed about with vemacs, but that's another story...
Back then, it was Multicraft or bust
zealous knot
lmao true
void void
So you just buy your dedi, put ptero on, use a whmcs addon, and you're now a shared host making bank off a bunch of stupid kids with their parent's credit cards
peak dirge
but now Pterodactyl is free
zealous knot
damn where has my life been i could have been a billionare by now
little brook
Well, if I could get a dedi in the central US for under 10 bucks a month, I'd be golden. Otherwise I'm technically stuck with shams, but not over my budget.
zealous knot
those motherfuckers offer 32 gigs of W H A M for $30 a month what is going on
peak dirge
Well, if I could get a dedi in the central US for under 10 bucks a month, I'd be golden
the best you'd get is an oversold VPS on ColoCrossing with a shady-ass host
zealous knot
You could host it on a $10 DigitalOcean droplet 
void void
I mean, hell...even VPS with a good provider is better than shared hosts, don't @ me
zealous knot
I'm not quite sure i know what a shared host really means
how do you share a server
little brook
It means multiple servers on one CPU.
void void
by renting it out with ptero
zealous knot
like without virtualizing it
agile nebula
Currently having a lot of bots joining my server, at least I think they're bots. They're all saying the same thing in perfect unison. What's the best way to deal with that? An anti VPN plugin?
void void
ptero uses docker, which are containers
you just make a bunch of containers on it and wham
agile nebula
ah wrong channel, my bad
zealous knot
Dude im gonna gather a few friends and fucking scam kinds of they money wtf, the ROI ration is fucking retarded on this
zealous knot
lmfao
peak dirge
200% ROI on mc-market
online memecraft loan sharks
little brook
Huh. DigitalOcean might actually be worth a shot.
woven otter
nice business plan
zealous knot
first i need to figure out docker iv'e been avoiding it for the past 8 years like the plague
void void
ptero does docker for you
you literally dont need to know shit
you just have to know how to scam people
woven otter
anyone want to buy hosting
zealous knot
@woven otter You in bro?
little brook
Anti-VPN anything is cancer and your server doesn't deserve its miserable anti-privacy existence if you use that sort of thing.
woven otter
ye
little brook
Excuse me for coming off strong with that one, but that's how it is.
woven otter
i need to make bank
void void
I would just put a captcha they have to type before being allowed to talk, and if they don't type it in ~20 seconds kick them.
zealous knot
@woven otter one i get some free time ill do some research and hit you up with a plan
little brook
That's fair.
peak dirge
Yeah, you can pretty much make your own Minecraft host for the princely sum of $100, mostly WHMCS and the server
void void
yup lol, super ez, and insane roi
zealous knot
@void void Bruh you just opened my oblivious ass eyes to the world
woven otter
@zealous knot sure lel
zealous knot
@peak dirge you too
peak dirge
can go lower if you're hosting the server in your basement ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
void void
:-)
zealous knot
i actually have a pretty good machine that's bottlenecked by my garbage network
so i no longer use it 
void void
and teamspeak3 hosting did the same thing, back when that was a thing (still is for some games, I suppose)
ashen hedge
pretty much everything is like that though, wholesalers -> retailers -> consumers
void void
(ptero can do ts and webhosting :-))
peak dirge
get my memecraft hosting
specs:
-768mb
-ubuntu 18.04 lts 32-bit
-pentium 4
-vary fast
-location: Bumfuck, GA
-price: $1/mo
woven otter
that's actually pretty smart ngl
void void
indeed, welcome to basic economics; get on the top of the chain instead of being on the bottom
then ??? profit
zealous knot
nah im not willing to go as low as shared web hosting that's crossing the line
zealous knot
oh jesus christ
void void
imagine you are running multiple things...
such as your mc server, voice server, website...
ashen hedge
strictly web hosting
void void
anyway im not talking with shared hosting plebs, im gonna go do something else adios
woven otter
void void
peak dirge
Update: CentOS just shit itself, we're installing Arch as we speak, downtime has extended!
void void
wtf? doesnt even compare - aws offers more than just virtualized servers.
unreal quarry
runs away
ashen hedge
that's their main platform
void void
but yea ill generalize your ass all day long you stupid plebeian
ashen hedge
lmao
void void
suck on my VMs
peak dirge
Update: The only thing that works on this god-forsaken box is Debian Etch. We're fucked
ashen hedge
just a question, how old are you @void void ?
grand slate
@zealous knot i'm in
void void
PERSONAL INFORMATION REQUEST BAN
unreal quarry
@ashen hedge think of it like an apartment vs a house. sure, you can invite your friends over to either one.. but you cant truly party hardy in an apartment or else the neighbors call the cops
void void
I'm 22 if you must know
grand slate
Ha OLD!!
ashen hedge
You know there are genuine reasons why huge companies run everything on VMs in the cloud right?
Scaling and resilience is way more important than cost
void void
Literally no one was shitting on VMs. I'm shitting on SHARED MINECRAFT SERVER HOSTS that OVERSELL THEIR PRODUCTS to dumb ass children.
grand slate
@zealous knot how about Rayz hosting
grand slate
peak dirge
when I was 14 I hosted with beastnode 🤢
zealous knot
how bout get out of my pings hosting @grand slate
grand slate
Hey no
zealous knot
cunt
grand slate
We're making a host bitch
ashen hedge
nah you were complaining about sharing hardware in general
void void
lmao what
grand slate
See we're the best of business partners
void void
I'm literally giving instructions on how to use docker to containerize applications, and I'm shitting on sharing hardware.
THis is gold.
zealous knot
we're not doing anything together until we mary you dirty bitch
woven otter
simple you're actually 22?
void void
yea?
unreal quarry
youngin's
woven otter
wow me too
zealous knot
when's your birth day simple
grand slate
I am nowhere near 22
hot gorge
VPS sucks. Don't @ me
unreal quarry
i wish i was 22 again
void void
not that old billy is like 30 something and wiz is 85
zealous knot
you can see wiz is a boomer by the way he talks
woven otter
I'm nearly 23 though
zealous knot
feels like he's gonna screem at me to get off of his fucking lawn them damned kids
grand slate
Dox'd
void void
parch
zealous knot
lel
grand slate
Parchment??
woven otter
october 3 here
zealous knot
fuck off lel
void void
ima go make more coffee
woven otter
makes sure to gift me things
grand slate
July 11th here i am so cool
zealous knot
im sad that no one caught my joke about wiz because too many messages washed out my joke :c
woven otter
wiz is 85
void void
gift him quack, that fucking quack addict is so lost in the sauce all day
he needs more
grand slate
Yes
woven otter
quack off
grand slate
:o
zealous knot
#WizIsAboomer
grand slate
BabyBoomerWiz
zealous knot
found him a new nickname
unreal quarry
idk, i doubt wiz is a boomer. pretty sure he's younger than me
woven otter
quack you and quack your mother you motherquacker
hot gorge
wiz is 23 and neckbreads from his mom's basement
grand slate
Billy is a boomer :o