c++ is plenty standardized
#general
pulsar wigeon
sharp sentinel
Standard library wise I meant
minor iron
I mean
sharp sentinel
C++ has a tonne more fragmentation in that regard
minor iron
I use mostly the same libs as everyone else
pulsar wigeon
they just keep releasing new standards and compilers need to catch up
pulsar wigeon
i dont think that's a design issue tho
minor iron
I'm quite a noob programmer
I haven't had an issue with that
I don't think my code is up to date though then
Because I've been coding the same way for the past two years
sharp sentinel
Also another way that C is more standardised is everyone basically codes it the same way
pulsar wigeon
nah lol
sharp sentinel
Whereas there are so many vastly differing ways of writing C++
pulsar wigeon
you havent seen enough people writing C
sharp sentinel
fair π
pulsar wigeon
people do dumbshit with every language
sharp sentinel
I mostly just touch ffmpeg tbh
limber knotBOT
*throws some preprocessor instructions all over the channel *
pulsar wigeon
if you just look at one proj you are likely subject to some proj code style
sharp sentinel
I mean I used to work on The Powder Toy a lot, which was C
(C++ now tho)
All other C aside from ffmpeg since then tho has been only me
hot gorge
COBOL or nothing.
limber knotBOT
I actually learned cobol in uni :D
hot gorge
That's the only way to fix Minecraft. Put it on punch cards
limber knotBOT
we have code running in prod that was written on punch cards and never touched again after digitializing
golden gust
not sure if untouched because hasn't needed touching or if untouched because people don't wanna touch
limber knotBOT
see, the ppl who wrote the code are literally dead
hot gorge
If COBOL, likely the latter
limber knotBOT
so don't tell me you have to deal with "legacy code"
limber knotBOT
luckly I live in the happy new platform, no backend connection place
woven otter
grand slate
Imagine COBOL
onyx venture
how does vault store data? how do I reset economy? π
onyx venture
oh. Its CMI in my case, I cant reset that. Thanks anyway
grand slate
golden gust
.lombok
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
woven otter
.lombok
limber knotBOT
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
grand slate
thought i'd share a nice post with you all π
woven otter
when alt+insert is too time consuming and too difficult to execute
grand slate
well it's a huge challenge to wrap your finger all the way over there
unreal quarry
finger cramps
grand slate
i am sorry i am restricted only to a 2 key loci around WASD
woven otter
such advanced technique usually requires years of intensive training
grand slate
mhm yes i just spin my keyboard around until it's within 2 keys of my fingers, a little cheat.
worn ember
@grand slate rart
grand slate
um excoose me
tropic flame
abstract nacelle
minor iron
that's offensive \s
peak knoll
rapid trail
hot gorge
AdiEU. LMFAO
vague nova
onyx venture
When I have a dog and I teleport, he doesnt teleport with me. is there some way to fix this?
sturdy fulcrum
Depends on the breed of dog
limber knotBOT
Have you treated your big well?
Maybe he just doesn't like you
Did you chest on him with a ocelot?
Chest, yes, that's what I wanted to write gboard, not cheat
grand slate
@worn ember rart
Have u treated ur rart well?
DER DarkEyeRart. Sorry haven't bulllied u for 2 days
woven otter
poopsplash bullying again
cunning badge
@woven otter What happened to your nossr
woven otter
dead meme now
void void
worn ember
kek
night dome
merry talon
I really shouldn't have eaten that whole loaf of garlic bread
ol digestive system is not happy
what kind of coffee
ancient bolt
Well I have arch running in WSL on my work dev box now so that's neat
with cmder it almost feels like a nice experience
void void
cmder?
hot gorge
"almost" lol
void void
wasnt listening in class and just embarassed myself :?
hot gorge
Bad gas?
visual forum
worn ember
I still think it's pretty bad lol
upper flicker
It's rendering shit correctly
So that puts it above cmder and conemu, which have many more useful features but still don't render all characters correctly, likely a result of all the legacy windows con host code they use
The new Windows terminal is ugly and super lacking in features, but at least it renders shit right now
They'll work on that after
limber knotBOT
Hey, just have a question. Is the paper api same as spigot? Or i would have to use different methods for example having it's own way to "extends JavaPlugin"
void void
wide chasm
No, you'd make your plugin exactly the same way. Paper does have additional API though.
limber knotBOT
Alright, Thank you
shut briar
hot gorge
I hate it
celest coyote
Yw
crystal compass
Any of you guys having luck running a 1.14.4 server with 30+ players yet?
worn ember
optimize the shit out of it
frail bridge
quasi valley
depends - if you have some survival server where you have tons of players in all 3 dimensions, good luck
but for minigames/stuff in just a single world without (much) new chunk generation, it's actually fine
wide chasm
I was going to ask how a player could not be in 3 dimensions, until I realized you were talking about the overworld, nether and end lol
worn ember
200iq
quasi valley
actually there's a hidden 2d mode in minecraft
celest coyote
1d minecraft
north sorrel
limber knotBOT
@crystal compass we run 1.14.4 and are having some rather big performance issues when we hit ~40-50 players
currently in the process of load balancing which we'll roll out tomorrow (if all goes as planned)
limber knotBOT
yup
crystal compass
My server usually has anywhere between 30-40 online, with like 8 worlds total
limber knotBOT
we only have the main 3 worlds and a spawn world
quasi valley
sounds like a bad idea to update then
limber knotBOT
currently we're at 30 people and 13 TPS on a 9900K lol
quasi valley
just use ViaVersion and shut down anyone asking why 1.14 features dont work
limber knotBOT
it really is, kenny
vestal jasper
TPS / Performance issues? "Welcome to 1.14"
limber knotBOT
pretty much
worn ember
pregenning the world or using an existing world helps but yeah its still shit
limber knotBOT
yeah no if you're not running a pregenned world, you're completely fucked
quasi valley
but did they actually drop their major theme for 1.15 in favor of bugfixes? cause a few weeks ago they sad they'd announce that at Minecon, now they just said that one half is around bees, the other around bug and performance fixes 
crystal compass
so sad..
limber knotBOT
yeah i hope it'll turn out well
crystal compass
Proximyst, do you have a pregenned world?
quasi valley
at least it sounds promising
crystal compass
I do have a pregenned 1.14 world ready
but if you're having problems im prob screwed
limber knotBOT
yeah don't expect good performance
especially if you've got a community who builds huge ass farms which lag a lot
quasi valley
I mean there are ways you can more or less run it smoothly, but that requires some efford
crystal compass
ahh shit
quasi valley
so probs better to wait what 1.15 offers
limber knotBOT
^ this tbh
quasi valley
we will update to 1.14, but that's only because we're currently on 1.8 and because we have a single survival server that we will scrap in favor of the small sized minigames and bordered worlds
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
worn ember
after multi server pregenning i'll see if i can do something like multiserver worlds or something π€ sounds like an interesting thing to do lol
quasi valley
you mean a world put on different servers?
worn ember
assign different chunks to different servers and transfer them between server when they meet the border or smoething
yeah
probably would be a PITA though
quasi valley
if you'd go all the way you could even make serverswitches on borders or whatever more or less instant by messing around with packets
worn ember
i remember a LOTR map i tried that would teleport you to different maps cuz they exceeded the height limits and such
was pretty cool
was instant too
i cant find it tho
quasi valley
... I put the above in vague terms because I dont know how, I just know that one of our devs once tried and semi successfully did it but then just went off π
worn ember
lmao
thats for after this final exam tho
and after those other 20 billion pending projects
quasi valley
ah lol apparently he pr'd it to paper https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/pull/2447
quasi valley
I think he got that idea from another dev of ours
worn ember
well
quasi valley
he stores literally everything in redis
worn ember
i wouldnt use it for permanent storage ig
quasi valley
well it's a cluster, so that's unlikely, but still
golden gust
I really have no idea how redis would cope with world data :L
worn ember
kitty about to slap the hammer and tell me its a bad idea and i should kill myself π
golden gust
Especially with redis persistence being as horrible as it is
quasi valley
we have data from like the end of 2017 in our cluster :D
golden gust
I mean, it'll work
golden gust
But last I knew, redis has two modes for persistence:
snapshots; Which I would imagine would suck ass for performance
replay logs: Who needs disk space efficiency?
quasi valley
not by storing it persisently in a single redis instance at least @ dragon π
worn ember
yeah but sql wouldnt be very viable too i think
golden gust
databases as a whole are somewhat icky for data like that, you wanna use somethingspecifically designed for raw data storage
worn ember
or any db for that matter
golden gust
Databases work well where you're not just basically stuffing in a raw binary stream
remote data storage as a whole with mc is a bit of a icky topic, tbh
worn ember
you got to guarantee its state aswell otherwise you end up with corrupted chunks
golden gust
(That's probably why hypickle use fixed world sizes and just load/save the entire thing
worn ember
yeah but they only use minigames
not really comparable to a live survival world
im not even sure how i'd split up the world
quasi valley
in some arbitrary giant chunks
worn ember
i'd need some loadbalancing too
golden gust
Well, yea; It works for them because they don't gotta care about reading/writing lots of data consistently
worn ember
does loadbalancing even work for mc?
fallen jungle
loadbalancing?
worn ember
would be more efficient to do it on hardware level π€ but that shit is way beyond my comprehension
fallen jungle
Sometimes I dream of what could be squeezed out of a modern machine if all it did was running a carefully optimized very low-level program, with literally nothing else running
grand slate
hypickle
worn ember
a lot
grand slate
Also why is paper taking so damn long to compile
worn ember
@fallen jungle you could write your own OS and find out π
fallen jungle
But what if instead of an OS I make it a Minecraft server π€
because why waste cycles on some stupid OS
worn ember
but yeah imagine having 4 cores (8 logic cores) running at 4GHZ thats 4000 cycles a second * 8 = 32k instructions a second π i think?
fallen jungle
4 GHz is 4 billion cycles a second
worn ember
oof
worn ember
well you get the point
fallen jungle
Sometimes I feel like 4 billion is a lot, sometimes it feels surprisingly tiny
but yeah should be plenty enough
worn ember
well its a lot, just depends how you use them
if you need to wait 3 cycles for a cache hit thats not very efficient
fallen jungle
imagine if all of those 4 billion cycles were all used by the server, no other overhead
worn ember
thats why pipelining is a thing, great improvement
but yeah
you could technically do it lol
fallen jungle
sure worth it
worn ember
implement the minecraft protocol in C or something and run the instructions directly on the processor π€ that'd be something i'd like to see someday lmao
fallen jungle
it'd be one hell of a task to write the program though, I'd first need plenty of years studying basically everything
worn ember
adressing registers is aids though
i had to program some microcontrollers in C before and it was no fun
fallen jungle
because chances are, even if I got there, I probably wouldn't be able to write a program that is able to use much of the cycles even nearly as efficiently as would be ideal
which would be a waste :(
fallen jungle
There's always someone who could improve whatever I do by a lot
worn ember
sometimes i wish i lived in the 80's or something when it was all still somewhat comprehensible
fallen jungle
if I had to choose between the performance we have now and the simplicity back then if that was a thing, I'd still pick performance
worn ember
yeah same
but its pretty much near impossible to write anything yourself without insane knowlege about logic gates and whatever else thats in those things lol
grand slate
Because i'm cheap i'm optimising mobs to fit skyblock
Just removing some of the tick logic lel
worn ember
delete
golden gust
delet urself
quasi valley
just don't tick anything, best performance you can have smh
fallen jungle
Just delete every third line and you have 1/3 faster program
grand slate
Yes, tbf they're smort optimisations
fallen jungle
or yeah just delete the mob entirely
grand slate
And dw i'm TESTING so don't shoot me ok thx
fallen jungle
But Dark, now that I do in fact not know how it all works on hardware level, it does sound interesting
I just feel like there's so much to read up on that I don't know if it's at all possible
especially with the attention span that I have
worn ember
i did electronics and ict in my first year of college (switched later cuz electronics is just confusing) and we did logic gates and programming microcontrollers
it was rewarding, but also very complicated and verbose
fallen jungle
I still don't know what's our local equivalent of what you call college
at what age were you there?
grand slate
Why is the scheduler such a mess
fallen jungle
how is it a mess?
fallen jungle
but like, I don't know what's your high school compared to ours
fallen jungle
so some years earlier than us
heavy granite
what
worn ember
yeah, pre-school
fallen jungle
My first memories that I can recall are from age 4
I was totally not in any kind of preschool
worn ember
you just learn basic stuff there lol
worn ember
ig its the same
fallen jungle
what's 'basic stuff'?
grand slate
@fallen jungle it's a mess because... just read it hehe. i imagine it all makes sense, but like, it's your usual spigot and bukkit mess
zealous knot
"hi my name jeff"
worn ember
you just color shit and learn to use basic tools like scissors and stuff
quasi valley
ah yeah sounds like kindergarden
grand slate
At least there aren't any magic numbers floating around like in the nms
zealous knot
Bro the teachers still don't trust me with the scissors and i'm 22
fallen jungle
wait Christ what are you talking about
grand slate
Dw...
worn ember
i mean you'd probably stab someone fix
fallen jungle
I mean what was that related to
grand slate
CraftScheduler
fallen jungle
ah
zealous knot
Dude i almost cut 7 fingers off my hands last time i used that shit
fallen jungle
I don't think the scheduler is too bad
grand slate
7 
worn ember
how even
zealous knot
i don't get why terrorists use guns when scissors are so much more lethal and available
grand slate
It's not compared to the rest tbf
worn ember
how tf do you even hold your scissors
fallen jungle
oh yeah 7 is quite impressive...
grand slate
But it's not as clean as it could be, i guess blame bukkit
fallen jungle
Iirc the current implementation is by aikar
so you can give your critique directly to him
fallen jungle
Thank you
grand slate
Oh it is good, just the remnants of original bukkit
worn ember
leranred
fallen jungle
That's one of the few hundred rare words that I still mess up
worn ember
π€
grand slate
As i said compared to other stuff, amazing haha
zealous knot
Bro iv'e been speaking english for as long as i can remember myself and i still fuck up every 21st word i type
zealous knot
π
gentle magnet
grand slate
@zealous knot cmon fix... i expect better
worn ember
π
fallen jungle
huh
fallen jungle
oh right
worn ember
i am
zealous knot
But you just talk here instead you stupid piece of shit
worn ember
its database concepts
grand slate
Intervention
worn ember
not that complicated
grand slate
U failed sql, so cmon
worn ember
i passed this time
fallen jungle
I've still failed to find an actual use case for databases in my projects
zealous knot
Bro homie couldn't configure two lines of nginx lol
grand slate
@fallen jungle rly??
fallen jungle
I mean unless you count a flatfile a database
worn ember
yeah cuz nginx is totally related to databases you shithead
fallen jungle
I never get that level of bored
worn ember
*is on fire
zealous knot
I didn't mention it because it's related to databases, i mentioned it because you are fucking stupid
β€
grand slate
My pool has the best task scheduling
zealous knot
Can you swim in it though?
fallen jungle
Either you know it so well it's super easy or you learn something by struggling, right
zealous knot
Yeah but you're still treating your crippling depression
zealous knot
oh now you're holding me accountable for your problems, what are you? dark's brother?
fallen jungle
Wow, everybody's on TPH
grand slate
@zealous knot 1 year ago to the day, almost, u said you'd pay for my treatment
Holy shit i just remembered last summer, shit talking in CV all day
zealous knot
last year when i said that i didn't think you'd live for another year
zealous knot
how much
zealous knot
send me your paypal link
fallen jungle
Therapists around here seem to charge about $80 an hour so that seems quite reasonable
grand slate
zealous knot
well there goes the $1.5 i was about to send you
zealous knot
im not even logged in bro and i have 2FA
zealous knot
it's 23:15 i cant be fucked
worn ember
yes
zealous knot
watch this instead https://youtu.be/kEpCX7FOkoQ
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) DJ Khaled RUINS his Live Performance - length 2m 52s - 26,476 likes, 511 dislikes (98.1%) - 681,120 views - MuchDank on 2018.08.06
grand slate
@worn ember GET BACK TO STUDYING WHY DID U REPLY
worn ember
grand slate
Wait
Ay ay
We can talk about thid
U can't just block your responsibilities π πͺ π
@worn ember
WHY DID U LOOK put on do not disturb
worn ember
stop and let me work ktnx
keen venture
quasi valley
just did the "alexa play despacito" for the meme and forgot I actually have an echo dot
that kind of backfired
upper flicker
Because UML bad
grand slate
Z750 bad
upper flicker
Chris bad
potent warren
Mixins direct support on Paper when?
worn ember
Nick bad
upper flicker
Probably never
grand slate
oh that's cute
upper flicker
More like snowy: true
upper flicker
Why would we?
It doesn't help us in its current state
And it just makes it easier for people to replace random bits of the server
Which is already a giant support pain
potent warren
π¦
upper flicker
It's better left to other projects who have the knowledge and the interest in doing it
Isn't there already a mod or a fork or something that adds it?
Pretty sure there is
grand slate
i presume u mean paper? not me?
grand slate
i am not bad u are bad
woven otter
ur bad
grand slate
@woven otter
grand slate
imagine using C++
woven otter
I thought I was using C π¦
grand slate
noob
limber knotBOT
Hi!
woven otter
Hey
grand slate
Does anybody know a good rcon client?
I'd prefer a console client
If not i'll make one I suppose
limber knotBOT
Just make one, its not that complex @grand slate
grand slate
Mhm my thoughts exactly
limber knotBOT
or you can use this one: https://github.com/Tiiffi/mcrcon
grand slate
Unless a good one already exists
maiden escarp
limber knotBOT
Well, idk what defines "good"
maiden escarp
Hello, people speak french here ?
limber knotBOT
Non, je ne parle pas frech, pourquoi voudriez-vous mΓͺme demander une telle chose dans une discorde parlant anglais?
grand slate
It looks decent, but um it's just one huge whopping C file
limber knotBOT
Je parle couramment google traduction si
grand slate
I know C a decent amount, I'm pretty sure that's not the practice :d
woven otter
ur not a good practice
limber knotBOT
@void void Si vous pouvez l'exécuter avec Google Translate, nous pouvons essayer de vous aider si personne ne parle français
@maiden escarp since twangs to ping the wrong person >.>
grand slate
Lol shit 790 lines.
limber knotBOT
Whats wrong with the line count @Christ?
Were you wanting a library for it? There is some in python & js
grand slate
No lol, i mean 790 lines, 1 file, a c program. Ik it works, and you can do that, but why not split it up, also works
limber knotBOT
Because its work, means changing files, its not really any easier compared to folded functions
grand slate
Yea i don't get that, i think i'll make my own impl, why not
limber knotBOT
Heh, love to see your reaction if you went through the src for kernels
grand slate
Take a language like Go, i can have it all in one file. But you don't, even for the same package.
limber knotBOT
And im sure you aren't writing just functions
And you might split it up just to avoid namespace collisions
grand slate
Ik what you mean. But if it were me, I would have one file for the impl, and one for the cmd line
In go multiple files can have the same 'namespace', you still split it up tho, for readability sake. I get that it's a simple program, but we aren't talking a couple hundred lines, close to 1000, relative to the project size, i'd personally split it up
limber knotBOT
Sure, but its neatly labeled, and its not that hard to read.
grand slate
True enough, i personally think it's nice practice tho, a clean proj.
limber knotBOT
It doesn't effect the functionality, its neat, and they are consistent
that is the most important best practice
grand slate
Yup, just a pet peeve of mine I suppose
limber knotBOT
Line count is irrelevant
grand slate
Ofc
limber knotBOT
It's really not that many functions either, a lot of the length is just text
wraith oracle
what's wrong with people nowadays
limber knotBOT
Skript is weird, you still kinda need to lean programming to use it
grand slate
Skript meme laugh
limber knotBOT
Meanwhile, a discord bot ima contributor of has its own programming language...
limber knotBOT
potent warren
The only downside is that Skript can't run on it's own.. requiring a server to host it
And I'm pretty sure that hasn't been done before due to the fact that Skript's grammar is way complex to make a simple parser for.
wraith oracle
Ehh, we're almost there
potent warren
are we though?
Tooling is also lacking... to say the least
there are no good editors for it... (ps: I've been spoiled by IntelliJ and ReSharper)
gusty jacinth
limber knotBOT
or just talking
steady sage
worn ember
@grand slate fuck you
grand slate
@worn ember fuck off
grand slate
Well i'm on a flight in a few hours and i can't damn slee0
meager wharf
cosmic raft
static badge
mfw
limber knotBOT
Congratulations to @static badge for finding their mate.
static badge
wat
limber knotBOT
Please donβt send pics
limber knotBOT
Despite the fact that a lot of the technology that you use is made by or at least partially maintained by weebs
TIL a senior engineer at google has a screen name of OwO
never tell kash not to do something
he'll just flood the chat with pics
Kashike should never send me cute cat pics
*waits *
#kashikes-safe-place
oh, right, IRC
hm, wonder if there's a 1:1 on that channel actually
Ye
And idk
ChanServe to the rescue?
There is a kashike channel though
Also JusticeForLeaf
Apparently
Kittens might be the bridge
Leaf, what is wrong with you?
merry talon
fuckingoffwithleaf sounds gay
limber knotBOT
Very gay
merry talon
yeah I know you are
hot gorge
Everyone is a little gay
limber knotBOT
merry talon
static badge
raw vector
limber knotBOT
.lombok
[03:01:27] <gabizou> fuck you and the lombok horse you rode in on
.kill
E for effort
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vestal jasper
@static badge the fuck do I do vs hanzo widow zen when they're all triangulating to kill me
vestal jasper
so basically kill them before they kill me
static badge
widow solves all ur problems
merry talon
if ur problem is being too high ranked, that is
polar cloud
Anyone here from the uk
merry talon
same
I stick to first name initial + last name now but it looks different everywhere
grand slate
@polar cloud yup
polar cloud
is oxford much further from london than salisbury
or just by a little bit
@grand slate
ancient bolt
So I just found out the guy who tried to put ads in npm installs is just one of those guys that makes 1 line packages
vestal jasper
oh god no
static badge
vestal jasper
mfw it takes more effort to install a package than it would've taken to write the code the package provides
merry talon
yeah but how are package maintainers supposed to get paid if they cant push an update with a crypto miner in it
post install scripts in general should absolutely not exist lol
if you need it for your package to work you're doing something wrong
ancient bolt
a significant amount of npm packages require native code
merry talon
they shouldn't :P
ancient bolt
why
merry talon
node is supposed to be platform agnostic
if you cant do what you need to do without native code thats an issue with node and should be fixed, imo
ancient bolt
python and javascript are slow
native code is how they get fast
more true for python than js
merry talon
yeah I dont believe that's worth all the concerns it brings about
but I dont know what kind of things packages are doing natively, so 
merry talon
like, you can optimize things pretty well with JIT and stuff
and if you're making a game in python or node ur just dumb
ancient bolt
working with my own gradle builds on my own projects makes me happy
I've been having to deal with awful gradle shit on terrible slow machines at work lately
merry talon
I dont think those are the problem
the problem is all the bullshit npm allows to happen
like unpublishing packages
solid basalt
pseudo tulip
ancient bolt
hell yeah junit 5 finally is at a point I can successfully move my mcdev tests over to it from junit3
this is like the 4th time I've tried doing the conversion, first time it's worked
The InvocationInterceptor API was the big missing piece
cunning badge
@static badge is that a meme or are you actually playing flight simulator
vestal jasper
Moon mission?
grand slate
'Python is a frontend for C' wow... i've never thought about it like that before
worn ember
Well you're not wrong
pulsar wigeon
C is a frontend for x86/arm/...
worn ember
how is it frontend?
celest coyote
every language higher than C is a front end for C :>
minor iron
:|
celest coyote
@unreal quarry do you have any gifs or videos benchmarking chunk loading in 1.14.4 async/no async and 1.13.2?
grand slate
Try it?
limber knotBOT
yeah mine's going to be running out too
I think I can prolly convince them that I am not yet done with my studies though
fervent quartz
what are some really nice but overlooked plugins?
worn ember
if they are overlooked, how would we know lol
void void
where can i download latest paper 1.12.2
fervent quartz
well maybe you know a plugin that nobody else here knows about xd
limber knotBOT
elitemobs
worn ember
@void void you can use paper download to get any version, but idk how to get older versions from the website
jaunty oriole
dapper nacelle
my plugin is nice and overlooked
I have no place to post my paper only plugin
I could try spigot I guess
worn ember
paper forums?
dapper nacelle
I guess
fervent quartz
theres paper forums? lol
dapper nacelle
but I need to be sure I can remove any review the person in this discord named "Simple" leaves
worn ember
yeah but they're pretty dead
dapper nacelle
yeah that's why I wasn't concidering it
I could try my luck with Spigot
do they even have a discord?
fervent quartz
who the hell is that guy lol
dapper nacelle
what is IRC
fervent quartz
internet relay chat
worn ember
millenials be like
fervent quartz
no they rly only have irc https://www.spigotmc.org/pages/irc/
dapper nacelle
*takes another sip of Redbull*
fuck it I will post it on spigot and see in how much trouble I get
jaunty oriole
irc is some ancient thing
dapper nacelle
should I make a separate account just in case
nah its not like I value my current one on spigot forums
worn ember
they'll probably delete it
fervent quartz
giv link
dapper nacelle
it doesn't exist yet
fervent quartz
to your account...
sly cloud
Where can i get paper 1.12.2
jaunty oriole
sly cloud
Thanks
dapper nacelle
well than spigot should get their shit together and implement a LivingEntity#getTargetEntity(distance) method
worn ember
is there a public repo of the discord bot?
dapper nacelle
can you change your username on spigot?
worn ember
no
dapper nacelle
oh ffs
commit not living whoever did this
they even want $10
which I don't understand
worn ember
thats how donations work lul
dapper nacelle
probably more than 10 people would consider donating if it was only $1
worn ember
you really dont have a high iq do you
dapper nacelle
only 129 intelligence quotient
ok, time to post my resource
I will just copy some random resource page
and mimic it
alpine basalt
My college is throttling my download speed because i'm downloading tor
dapper nacelle
smh
alpine basalt
just because I dont want to pay $400 for a textbook doesn't mean they should throttle my connection lol
void void
alpine basalt
I'm trying to, but I found it on a website at home on my PC but I can't access it on my laptop without Tor
Well the thing is, I downloaded 200MB lecture yesterday while outside on the patio instantly, but a 50MB download is taking 20 minutes?
alpine basalt
Good idea
dapper nacelle
I paid 60 EUR for 1 year of vpn
alpine basalt
I'm an IT major, and my professor mentions Tor often to I mean... if they question it π
celest coyote
I find it hilarious that bestviewdistance is so popular yet allowed to be on spigot website
limber knotBOT
Does anyone know if there is there a way to get the link of a wikipedia section in mobile view? It's annoying to always switch to desktop view and press on the link in the contents table.
worn ember
copy the url?
limber knotBOT
That's the problem. You get the url of the site (obviously), but not the url to the sections ..
worn ember
you do
limber knotBOT
how?
limber knotBOT
Note that there is no table of contents if you use a mobile device
You can't select a sction
Or at least I don't know how ..
limber knotBOT
When I click on the drop down button on my mobile device the url doesn't change ..
limber knotBOT
Okay thanks for trying ..
tired rain
quick gust
okay calm down there buddy I highly doubt an actual college has a specific limit on downloads for tor
dapper nacelle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507976093584850971/617032653492846602/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507976093584850971/617032700376776733/unknown.png
quasi valley
happens when you randomly tick on stuff in IJ π
dapper nacelle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507976093584850971/617033291492753408/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507976093584850971/617033335809638486/unknown.png
ok maybe too much inspection
void void
Strange...oh well
[09:45:21] [Paper RegionFile IO Thread/FATAL]: Couldn't save chunk; already in use by another instance of Minecraft?
net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.ExceptionWorldConflict: Failed to check session lock for world located at ./world, aborting. Stop the server and delete the session.lock in this world to prevent further issues.
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.WorldNBTStorage.checkSession(WorldNBTStorage.java:167) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-176]
at net.minecraft.server.v1_14_R1.WorldServer.checkSession(WorldServer.java:1630) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-176]
at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.PaperFileIOThread$ChunkDataTask.run(PaperFileIOThread.java:594) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-176]
at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.QueueExecutorThread.pollTasks(QueueExecutorThread.java:115) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-176]
at com.destroystokyo.paper.io.QueueExecutorThread.run(QueueExecutorThread.java:42) ~[patched_1.14.4.jar:git-Paper-176]
steep vine
void void
2tired2deal
static badge
literally kill the other server instance you started
static badge
you mean ur retarded
void void
no u
merry talon
why dont we kill u spot
static badge
cuz ur retarded
static badge
mfw
dapper nacelle
static badge
retarded inspection
zealous knot
no u
woven otter
wow
static badge
wtf do you think lambdas do
dapper nacelle
create a new object that is a runnable
celest coyote
mmmmmm no
dapper nacelle
huh what do they do then?
static badge
they do create new objectsw
dapper nacelle
all code inside of a lambda block is the run method right?
static badge
they need to store reference to the parameters you pass into them
dapper nacelle
a runnable with parameters?
static badge
no it's not a runnable
dapper nacelle
wait a lambda is not a runnable?
static badge
the type is inferred from the parameters and the function
no it's not a runnable
in this case it's runnable
dapper nacelle
I thought it was an anonymous runnable
rip
oh a lambda is for functional interfaces
derp
static badge
which does remind me what's the specification for comparing objects created through lambda spec
dapper nacelle
everytime you do () -> {} a new object is created, right?
limber knotBOT
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dapper nacelle
my friend just confirmed it
golden gust
A new instance of the class is created, yes
static badge
spec is sorta vague about when it can be allocated
static badge
my simple test shows shoving in variables pretty much makes it allocate each time
without other variables (i.e no expression) it will stay allocated across calls
method references also allocate when you're reffing a non-static
interesting stuff
worn ember
is it tho
mighty kestrel
ancient bolt
the fuck
so I can't enable dark mode in catalina and also have the automatic wallpaper enabled
that's apparently "working as intended"
finite lagoon
worn ember
tf is catalina
limber knotBOT
Spanish whore.
quasi valley
sounds accurate
merry zealot
worn ember
@celest coyote seems like ill need to make a plugin regardless. I can't get the world spawn without adding a plugin. Now the question is. Do i let the plugin handle the execution of the commands aswel? or do i let the application do that?
if i used a plugin I could just execute the plugin command and update the plugin if needed rather than having to update the entire application
or ig i could generate a config and let the plugin execute the config on enable
grand slate
@worn ember
worn ember
tf u want
grand slate
yes
worn ember
actually rart
celest coyote
plugins can execute commands from the console right?
worn ember
yeah
celest coyote
wdym send command?
grand slate
What r u making now?
celest coyote
the wb command?
worn ember
i'd just do /mmsg init <x> <z> <radius> or something
and let the plugin translate that to the wb command
worn ember
ok
celest coyote
have the app generate a config.yml and the plugin just translates that
@worn ember send the gh page, might start working on it today
worn ember
ancient bolt
why the hell isn't intellij showing me a diff of expected vs actual test results god damnit
worn ember
unit tests?
keen swallow
not sure if this is the correct place but my console is saying someone is duping yet i know nobody is. apparently the chunk is broken or something and keeps timing me out
worn ember
gonna have to post logs
keen swallow
worn ember
[21:43:15] [Server thread/FATAL]: ChunkTooLarge even after reduction. Trying in overzealous mode. (r.-1.-1.mca - -16,-24) Go clean it up to remove this message. /minecraft:tp -256 128 -384 - DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - You may ask for help on Discord, but do not file an issue. These error messages can not be removed.
if theres nothing important in that chunk just delete it from the worlds folder
.\world\region\r.-1.-1.mca
keen swallow
i removed that file and my entire base was deleted
worn ember
did you stop the server when deleting?
keen swallow
yea
worn ember
and its still doing it after regenerating?
keen swallow
i took the file out and it regenerated the world as it would before i started creating stuff, it deleted my whole base. it let me play however
worn ember
so its working again?
try loading it into mcedit if you still have it
maybe you can still recover it
celest coyote
You cant delete a chunk like that
keen swallow
i dont want to delete it
celest coyote
That deletes an entire region
worn ember
its 2019 and i still need to type "wb "+world+" set "+radius+" spawn" to concatinate strings 
celest coyote
If your client cant load that chunk you have no choice but to delete the entire chunk
Dark you know you can use string format and other shit
worn ember
thats still retarded, i want string interpolation
celest coyote
I think something like that exists
feral solstice
void void
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationβ‘.283181/
worn ember
@celest coyote
Send($"wb {World} set {Radius} {X} {Y}");
Can't deny this looks a whole lot better than
"wb "+world+" set "+radius+" "+x + " "+z lol
now i need to find a formula to divide a square into n equal sections
worn ember
yeah
celest coyote
@worn ember https://i.redd.it/c3o5owhkjjj31.png
worn ember
never thought that in this case π
hidden harness
Haha
My players just hosted a wedding
That was fun and chaotic
Buy hey, reached 37 players
Still 20 tps
dusk drift
1.14?
vestal jasper
20 tps with 37 players sounds pretty unlikely on 1.14
void void
Alright I gotta rant. I had never played wow before 3 days ago. Friend told me to play classic, not retail. so I'm like okay whatever.
Been playing, level 12 rn, having some fun. PRetty good game I think.
I just decided to get on retail to see what the differences are and
W.T.F.
In classic you walk EVERYWHERE. There are no quest helpers. You die a SHITLOAD.
In retail, there is a fucking flight to the first big city from the second city you go to. Quest markers. Health is way different. Auto hotbar.
What the fuck is this
vestal jasper
You can get to max level in a day in retail.
vestal jasper
retail doesn't respect you at all and thinks you're an idiot who can't think
void void
Maybe less
Took me till now to get lvl 12 in classic, and I enjoyed doing it
But I did NOTHING. Killed less than 30 mobs and im lvl 5.
(in retail)
vestal jasper
oh wait are you for or against classic
void void
for it
dapper nacelle
void void
im awestruck at how gae retail is
FLIGHTS TO FUCKING DARNASSUS FROM DOLANAAR?
It's a 5 minute walk
WHAT
vestal jasper
retail does have some nice things though, like xmogs
void void
no clue what that is
vestal jasper
You can change gear appearances to other gear
void void
lol
vestal jasper
Like if you get really nice looking armor you can make the armor you're wearing look like it
void void
So no sense of achievement in equipping the new higher level gear you just spent hours grinding for?
You can just xmog it
vestal jasper
You can only xmog to stuff you've obtained
void void
Hmm
vestal jasper
so you have to grind for nice looking gear
void void
interesting...
but is it really grinding, it seems like i took no damage whatsoever whereas when i first left the starter area and met a lvl 3 mob when im lvl 2 in classic i got fucked brutalized
vestal jasper
you can't xmog items to the appearances of legendaries though
void void
and was flying to my body like 18 times an hour
vestal jasper
grinding in the sense that I have to run old dungeons 20 times to get the entire set
not grinding in the sense that there's 0 challenge in doing this
void void
Meh
Well, I think I'm gonna stay on classic a while. At least until I explore all of azeroth. Because it seems retail has more on top of that to explore
But beyond that...
idk...
vestal jasper
I'd play classic but I don't have the motivation to invest in multiple games
void void
(And for context, this was my first exposure to wow. period)
(classic was)
as of 3 days ago
woven otter
first experience ?
vestal jasper
There's a reason so many people rallied to get blizz to release classic
woven otter
wow
void void
parents told me it was too addicting
woven otter
that's nice
void void
and so, i never got to
woven otter
how do you like it
void void
classic is really fun, I'm not sure how I feel about retail
Like I was saying, it seems too easy
too much handholding
vestal jasper
I played wow during burning crusade but I was 9 at the time and couldn't appreciate the game well enough
I remember playing a belf archer and getting to level 21 though!
void void
Haha
I just got to lvl 12, nightelf warrior
(classic), lvl 5 nightelf druid on retail
after 30 mins
-.-
vestal jasper
Simple you like TES?
void void
Yea
vestal jasper
how do you feel about skyrim 
void void
It's a good game. I finished it. I actually appreciate the bugs lol
They make it what it is
vestal jasper
If you own oldrim on steam you can play Enderal for free
It's a total conversion mod, pretty much an entirely new game build on skyrim's engine
vestal jasper
It's really good tbh
void void
I might try it
"Game does not treat you like an idiot baby"
how i feel about retail wow rn ^
vestal jasper
The characters feel human, the story is really good, and the game feels like it respects the player
void void
anyway im gonna go make some food